Hi there, me and multiple nominators and QAT have some concerns about your mapset and things that might improve overall quality, including several wrongly snapped notes, inconsistencies and readability/flow suggestions. Please make sure to look at everything below:
It's great to hear that the QAT still isn't satisfied with the map even after dropping the mediation which had left me to assume they are fine with it.
These must be 1/6, and they're using 1/4 on almost every difficulty:
On almost every diff: 00:25:326 - 01:19:812 - 01:41:866 - 02:37:001 - 03:02:947 - 03:25:001 -
Now out of everything that was pointed out in this "concern post", this was the dumbest thing. In all of those parts where it's a "must" to be 1/6 there is either:
1) A loud piano noise that lands on 1/4
2) Vocals that are on 1/4
There is no reason to change any of these.
As for these, they are all 1/6:
FreyBox's Adagio: 00:35:380 (4,5,6) - 01:51:920 (4,5,6) - 03:35:055 (3,4,5) - 02:07:650 (1,2,3) - 02:12:839 (2) - 02:28:407 (3,4) -
Haruto's Adagietto: 00:35:380 (4,5,6) - 01:51:920 (3,4,5) - 03:35:055 (3,4,5) -
eLy's Andante: 02:07:650 (1,2,3) - 01:11:704 (5,6) - (should be like 02:28:245 (2))
Kalirink's Andantino: 01:11:867 (4,5) -
Joey's Moderato: 00:35:380 (4,5,6) - 01:51:920 (4,5,6) - 03:35:055 (4,5,6) - 01:11:866 (1,2) - 02:28:407 (1,2) - 02:12:839 (3) -
Assing's Allegretto: 00:35:380 (4) - 01:51:921 (4) - 03:35:055 (3,4,5) - 02:37:001 (1,2) - (should be like 01:19:813 (1)) 01:41:867 (1,2,3,4) - (should be like 03:25:001 (1,2)) 01:11:867 (1,2) - 02:28:407 (1,2) -
Kibbleru's Allegro: The intro has multiple incorrect snapping, such as: 00:04:407 (2,3,4) - 00:06:028 (5,6,7,8) - 00:11:461 (2,3,4,1) - 00:14:785 (1,2,3) - 00:22:245 (2,3,4) - 00:25:326 (3) -
not in the intro: 00:35:380 (1,2,3) - 01:51:920 (3,4,5) - 03:35:055 (3,4,5) - 01:41:866 (1,2,3,4) -
Flasxis' Vivace: 00:35:380 (3,4,5) - 01:51:921 (3,4,5) - 03:35:055 (3) - 01:11:867 (2,3) - 02:07:731 (1) - 01:41:867 (1,2) and 00:25:326 (1,2) - (should be just like 03:25:001 (1,2))
Having 1/6 streams in 185bpm map is just dumb. What is even more dumb is the fact that even if these are the accurate snaps, you can only hear them by going through the map with 25% speed. When listening to the song with 100% speed (which is the speed players play at) It's almost impossible to notice the 1/6 portions especially if you are not actively listening for them. I think the fact that out of all the difficulties "Kalirink" difficulty is the only one where the mappers even noticed this and decided this would be a good approach (Approriate to have 1/6 repeats in this level of difficulty) goes to show how natural 1/4 simplifying is here. This being said, I'm defending the rhythm choices for all difficulties here that decide to map the longer drum sections such as 00:35:380 (4,5,6) with 1/4 rhythm.
This covers most of what this part is aiming at. As for the rest, I will defend or agree with them individually
Joey's Moderato: 02:12:839 (3) - This is just skipping the 1/6 snare in the middle but it starts and ends properly so I don't see an issue here.
Assing's Allegretto: 00:35:380 (4) - 01:51:921 (4) These 2 sections have 1/4 sliders that clearly start at represented points in time in music. If the tail of (4) were to be snapped onto a 1/6 it would hurt the gameplay as the intensity brought by this patterning would suffer to only follow music for the sake of following it 100%.
02:37:001 (1,2) - There are clear vocals that land on these kicksliders.
This leaves the following fixes that I find reasonable:
FreyBox: 02:12:839 (2) - 02:28:407 (3,4) -
eLy's Andante: 02:07:650 (1,2,3) 01:11:704 (5,6) -
Kalirink's Andantino: 01:11:867 (4,5) -
Joey's Moderato: 01:11:866 (1,2) - 02:28:407 (1,2) -
Assing's Allegretto: 02:28:407 (1,2) -
Kibbleru's Allegro: Everything mentioned for the intro
Flasxix's Vivace: 01:11:867 (2,3) - 01:11:867 (2,3) - 01:41:867 (1,2) and 00:25:326 (1,2)
General
02:38:298 - Would suggest making the break start consistent for all diffs that have it, since it seems a shame to not do so when you can. If not, at least snap it correctly on Fuccho's diff. Sure
Larghissimo
03:03:595 (1) - This slider isn't being supported by anything and it's even inconsistent with the first Kiai. It's barely starting on any sound and the only thing emphasizing the strong beat is the slider tick. Would be a lot better if you could do the same thing here as what've done to the first Kiai. This is exactly the rhythm of the first kiai though? I can make this have a unique solution of its own but the way it currently is, is exactly the rhythm of how first kiai begins.
Joey's Moderato
03:01:650 (4) - Appears to be missing NC. Can fix
Assing's Allegretto
02:18:678 (1,2) - Swapping NCs here would fit better imo. Makes sense
03:44:298 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - Same as Kibb and top diff. Snare(?) sounds aren't emphasised well with full stream, and I prefer previous sections 02:01:002 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1). Here the song intensity is different because of the transpose which would explain the choice behind fully mapping this as a stream unlike in the example you provided. What you are pointing out here has already been discussed in the initial veto and something the QAT already approved of. Bringing this up again is therefore pointless and I will just refer to this response for similar cases in case they happen in this mod.
Kibbleru's Allegro
03:44:298 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - Similar to top diff, the snare (?) sounds aren't really emphasised nicely with a full stream. I liked what was done with the kick sliders in previous sections better 02:01:164 (3,4,1,2,3,4). Refer to post in Assing's Allegretto.
wkyik's Allegrissimo
02:32:785 (3) - 02:33:596 (3) - 02:59:380 (3) - 03:00:191 (3) - Would just remove these since it seems the drums are being prioritised for this section, and there just aren't any for these notes. I do think these are more fun to play if the 1/1 gaps are followed in the music. Makes sense
03:06:028 - Wouldn't suggest missing this vocal beat with the extended slider, since it is pretty significant to me. Skipping this is fine imo
03:32:299 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Makes more sense to make the jumps increase with the pitch rather than doing the opposite like you did here. Makes sense
Irre's Vivacissimo
03:19:164 (1,2,3) - Auto-stacking made this look terrible. Manual stack is better I agree
Fuccho's Presto
01:31:326 (4) - Would consider moving this to around (10, 324) so it's similar to 01:23:542 (3), and I think halting to movement here seems a little out of place. Agree
Prestissimo
00:44:623 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 02:01:164 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I do think these would be better if the (snare? whatever you hitsounded the finishes to) would be highlighted better, since a full stream doesn't really represents those sounds very well, especially for 00:44:785 (3). 03:44:298 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) is slightly better, if only 3 was the actual corner rather than in the middle of the curve. Refer to post on Assing's Allegretto
01:18:839 (3) - Appears to be missing a whistle. Yup
01:44:137 (1) - Seems like an NC mistake? Single object combo seems out of place here. Yup
03:27:109 - Would aim to make this a clickable beat since most of the other synth(?) sounds for similar sections were clickable. I can understand switching it if there was a vocal sound like the slider after this, but there isn't one here so. The vocals are more imporant to me here so that's why it's not clickable as to make the vocal rhythm more natural