Yumeno Himiko wrote:

m4m from my queue~ hihi

[General]
looks fine

[Easy]
00:15:269 (3,4) - The music fits more with a reverse slider + a circle, with 00:15:269 (3) a 1/2 reverse slider and a single circle at 00:16:536 (4) to express the lower tune here. I tried to fit it in here but I don't want to miss the held sound by making 00:16:114 (4) - a note :c
00:43:156 (5,1,2) - just for aesthetic, what about making them a regular triangle since you're doing perfect blankets? Adjusted, couldn't make perfect since I want 1 to point at it though
? something like

SPOILER

01:07:663 (4,5,1) - I think the note is just a bit squeezed here, feeling a bit awkward, especially the moving flow is rolling back. What about make 01:08:508 (1,2) moving upward, this may make you change a few patterns. You have a point but I like the symmetry of the next sliders, I'll consider if more people think it looks cramped
01:37:663 - I wonder why there isn't a note, it feels really strange if you played this part and you can't find a reason to remove this one since other rhythms are fully filled. I checked Lanturn's mod and I guess he means you to extend the repeat of 01:36:396 (3) here XD. Nah I read the mod again and based on how it was before he definitely asked it to be this way. I don't much like the pause but it works in my opinion is why I changed it.

[Normal]
00:29:635 (3) - Just my personal opinion, what about make it a copy of 00:28:579 (1)? Then I will get comments about ill fitting blankets
00:36:184 (2) - remove this one? I noticed you're not filling up all the rhythms and seems that you can get this note away to make it easier.
00:49:706 (2) - ^ same for this Hmm you have a point about removing some of these, I will think about which ones can be removed without being inconsistent and make it a little simpler.
01:26:677 (1,2) - I would reverse the rhythm here, that is 1/2 slider for 1 and 1/1 for 2, imo this rhythm fits the song better. Agreed, this sounds better to me as well

[Hard]
00:23:297 (5,6,1,2,3) - The rhythm here is a bit hard for players just reaching Hard diff, and will be easily to get miss on 00:23:719 (1,2,3), so I suggest making 00:23:297 (5,6) a slider. IMO that takes away from the rising BGM intensity
00:26:043 (3,4) - I think it's a bit overmapped in hard diff as I can hardly distinguish anything on the blue lines and wonder why they're 1/4 reverses. 00:27:733 (5) I can understand this reverse tho. tbh I think 00:26:677 deserves more with a 1/4 reverse than
00:26:466. The reverse sliders are mapped to some guitars that appear consistently, and not the trumpets
00:54:142 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - tbh this really shocked me at the first time and missed some circles. 00:54:776 (1) - I think you need a NC here to emphasize the players that the next circle is here and won't be lossed in the reverses. And my personal thoughts, you can change 00:54:987 (2,3,4,5) into 2 sliders to make this pattern easier.
01:06:607 (1,2) - can't understand these 1/4 reverses too, and I think 01:06:818 is strong enough to have a circle or slider start here.
I can understand your patterns, but some mixes of 1/4 and 1/2 sliders can really make new players confused, especially the reverse sliders that reverse over 3 times. I hope you may reconsider some of them to decrease the difficulty. e.g. 01:52:452 (3) is really confusing. Also 01:56:677 (1,2), make a different rhythm and players can't react quickly. I did actually make some of the triple>circle>triple into some sliders to make it a bit easier. I know the map is a bit dense for a hard but I wanted to represent the song as much as possible


[Savage]
00:16:959 (1,2,3,4,5) - This one is really tricky, is that intended? 00:17:804 (5) is hard to notice, even harder than 00:22:663 (4) which is a similar pattern since you use a triple here 00:17:276 (2). Yeah those back and forths are intended, I put them in all my maps
You may copy hitsounds from Shinenite's Insane which fits the song better, or you should consider add finishes here and there. Yep did this, Shine's hitsounds are nice

Sorry for such a short and low quality mod XD, your map is really well structured and I can hardly pick any problems. So I mainly focused on rhythms and hitsounds, hope my mod helps.
Good luck on this set~Thanks for the mod, helped quite a bit, hope my mod helped you as well

Yumeno Himiko wrote:

m4m from my queue~

[Warpy's Insane]
02:06:712 (8,9) - do not overmap Fine
02:08:402 (10,11) - and these ^
I love this diff, it's hard for me to find any problems ;w; good job Thanks for modding!

walaowey wrote:

Warpy's Insane

1. 00:01:008 (1) - i think u can stop the spinner at 00:03:015 - it sounds better xD Fine
2. 00:34:494 (4) - stack is off nice catch
3. 00:35:339 (1) - ^ ^
4. 01:09:987 (3,1) - ^ ^
5. 01:11:043 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i notice u got a few of this patterns. imo the flow is not that smooth. *click*
   the sudden upward flow to (4) is kinda unnecessary imo. and its hard to aim the triplets previously (1,2,3) [its my opinion here] I cant think of a way to map it that flows better and I'm not a big fan of linear flow its really hard to hit when playing. Imo it already has a pretty good flow
6. 01:28:367 (4) - its touching the hp bar 01:28:367 (4) - Fixed
7. 02:06:607 (7,1) - maybe place them close or stack them? the spacing was kinda confusing because u got continous 1/2 gap single tapping previously. when i test it, i thought it was 1/2 too >< I'll consider it if more people point it out

That's all from me, Good Luck Thanks for the mod!

walaowey wrote:

Shinenite's Insane

1. 00:03:121 (4,5) - i dont hear any sounds for this 2, remove them? Nah, there's definitely sounds there.
2. 00:03:438 (6) - NC? its a downbeat Fixed
3. 01:24:142 (1) - NC would be nice here Fixed
4. 01:32:593 (10,1) - dont overlap them? Fixed

walaowey wrote:

hi m4m
thanks alot for your mod

general

your bg was 1 pixel off

Savage

• lol those spacing stream so hard to play =3=. hee hee hee

1. 01:09:142 (1,2,3,1) - use a different pattern? bcoz its similar to the previous part. maybe try to use a different slider pattern or something. It's similar to help people read the SV change since it's basically the same pattern from before
2. 01:17:381 (8,9,10) - this jump was quite big imo. the beat was not even that strong at that point, and its quite constant with 01:16:114 (1,2,3,4) - Fair, I guess you are correct about this, changed somewhat.
3. 01:17:804 (1) - this circle should have a bigger spacing instead imo, since its beat is alot strong than 01:17:381 (8,9,10) - Made this somewhat bigger
4. 01:19:494 (1) - could use a bigger jump too because (8) -> (1) has strong beat but (7) -> (8) has weaker beat, when u stack (1) on (7), it feels like you're using the same spacing here, which will not emphasize (1) that well imo Eh I think it sounds about the same personally
5. 01:21:501 - u miss a beat here. Yeah this was pointed out by someone today as well, good catch
6. 01:35:973 (3,4) - ctrl+g for the rhythm here will be better since 01:36:184 - has strong beat. slider tail cant emphasize it that well imo Hmm I'll consider it but that's an odd one out drum beat I'm not so sure about making it emphasizing
7. 01:56:149 (2) - i dont hear any sound here maybe remove it? I hear a triple though :L
8. 01:56:677 (1,2,3,4) - i dont hear any sound on (2) . u can try to change the rhythm to 1/2 slider+2 circle like this I hear a double double here D:
9. 01:04:283 (1,2,3) - this triplets can have bigger spacing imo. maybe u can reduce the spacing for 01:03:755 (2,3,4,5,6) - instead since this part was not that intense. It sounds pretty intencse to me though, since it's a rising stream sound and it's the same as the part before where thats happens :c

Hard

1. 00:32:276 (1) - its touching the hp bar https://puu.sh/ussXU/01307a401a.jpg Yes, yes it is
2. 01:00:480 (5) - ^ MMMMMF
3. 01:08:297 (8,9,10) - stack it with 01:07:452 (3) - ? Nah I think this one works okay

That's all from me, Good Luck Thanks for the mod

Log Off Now wrote:

m4m from my q

[General]

bg is 1365x768 lol, need another pixel

[Easy]

there isn't a single pause for breath in this difficulty apart from spinner recovery here 00:02:592 -, makes this easy feel a bit like playing a normal. would suggest simplifying some rhythms to give emphasis on important notes. e.g 00:55:832 (4) - here would be a good place to just put a circle so the player has a chance to rest a bit You have a point.... I'm the first person to admit I loathe Easies and don't particularly care about them :c but even though the diff is all 1/1 if it's still too dense for newbies then we'll have a looksee

00:00:903 (1) - maaaybe a bit too short spinner? would double check with a bn Am on fence about this too
00:23:719 (1) - any reason why you use a different rhythm for this part when the previous two parts use an identical rhythm? feels inconsistent to me
01:04:283 (1) - ya^ This is for the loud ass trumpets in the background, the held note ones that is. If newbies can't hear them and prefer to hit the same rhythm over and over i'l consider changing but a little variation should be okay imo, and they're consistent between the two parts at least
01:17:804 (3,4,5,1) - this could be potentially misleading, as most noob players just tend to look at what object is closest to them they are more likely to click (1) first before (5), would suggest moving the placements of these around a bit to make it easier to read I'll consider this, if I get more comments about it might change

[Normal]

00:00:903 (1,1) - ok even though this is somewhat low bpm i think this is too short for spinner recovery, would like to see at least half a beat more Okay why not
00:39:565 (2,3,4) - i feel this rhythm would be better if it was ctrl + g'd that way you follow the little vocal hold when he says 'land' and also make the two ending drum beats clickable Good idea, done that
01:19:494 (3,4) - why not make these the same shape as 01:17:804 (1,2) - for visual consistency with 01:11:043 (1,2,3,4) - It ends up looking like a failed symmetry with 01:18:649 (2) - and doesn't look very nice imo :c

[Hard]

00:09:776 (2) - unsure about this kickslider since they're still relatively difficult to understand for hard diffs, would prefer if it was just a circle
00:15:269 (1,2) - here they're not as bad as they are used on a significant drum fill, where as before it was used to accent a small snare flick which isn't nearly as important to emphasise imo Fair enough, I can agree it's a needless overcomplexification
00:18:438 (6,1) - move these a tiny bit lower for a perfect linear line Damn stacking
00:26:043 (3) - i think this white tick should be clickable since its such a strong note in the guitar (i also dont really know what this repeat slider is meant to represent in the music, i can't hear anything on the blue tick)
00:26:466 (4) - ya^ They're mapped to the guitar which does a scratchy thing here, and they're not straight triples because that makes the part too dens for finger control in a Hard imo.
00:30:480 (1,4) - same slider shape for visual consistency?
00:37:241 (1,4) - ya^ Changed this one but not the first one as I don't want straight sliders leading into 1/4 notes :<
01:02:381 (8,1) - this is a huge ds change compared to the previous time you used this patterning 00:59:001 (8,1) - , you also never had a big ds change in the previous section used this pattern, so it's a really odd thing to do here, would prefer it if you just followed your stack patterning for this Mmm yes good point about this too, changed
01:38:719 (3) - any reason why you didnt follow the same pattern that you did here to follow the trumpets 01:25:198 (3,4,5) - , it feels like a strange swap on emphasis especially because you have a triple 01:39:142 (4,5,6) - here instead which contradicts the previous kiai and the rest of this kiai
02:01:748 (8) - maybe a bit more spacing here to match the similar build up feeling you had before? I don't hear a trumpet there so I didn't map a trumpet triple, the other triple after it is for the drum triple which occurs there, I know I've been using repeat sliders for those and straight triples for trumpets, but in the kiai I wanted to make it more intense so



gl! Thanks for the useful and in depth mod! wish mine had been half as good.

-Mo- wrote:

Warpyc
- 00:10:198 (1) - I feel like you could do something more interesting than a long spinner for this section. There are plenty of beats to map to. Honestly unless I really have to I don't want to do it, really all I hear is those trumpets and an occasional drum, it would be really lame and an acc killer for very little reason
- 00:20:550 (1,2,3) - These offbeat sliders are inconsistent with how you mapped the same sounds elsewhere, 00:16:959 (1,2,3). fuck me that really fucks my shit up, knew it sounded a bit weird
- 00:39:776 - Mapping this beat to a passive beat is inconsistent with how you've mapped it before, 00:38:085. If I changed that it would ruin the ability to transfer over to mapping the drums at 00:39:987 - also it fits fairly well with the vocal. I see your point though
- 01:01:114 (1,2,3) - Offbeat sliders thing. Fixed same as before
- 01:16:325 (2,3,4) - Based on where the loud sounds are, I would try and make it so 3-4 has lower spacing compared to 2-3. I think a progressive spacing increase works better here, feels a bit awkward otherwise
- 01:38:086 (1,2,3) - As with the Shinenite diff, the trumpet triple isn't really emphasised since the pattern blends with the stream from the previous combo. Maybe rotate these notes to add emphasis via angles? I don't think adding sharp angles in the stream would do it any good, while I do agree the trumpet might not be as emphasised as it could be, I'm banking on the spacing increase to be good enough to give it some feeling. I might change this if I find a way to make it work without feeling really shit while playing

Thanks for the mod!

Log Off Now wrote:

[Shinenite's Insane]

00:00:058 (1,2,3,4,5) - starting maps on a stream is a bit meh imo because the player doesn't have a sense of the bpm or timing they need to hit but i guess this is a bit subjective, so its up to you True, but I don't think it's that big of a deal. Plus, all of the Insane+ difficulties start with a stream so it's kind of consistent for it to be like that.
00:23:297 (6) - maybe nc this to further accent the louder note in the trumpet? this also helps justify the direction change in the stream Don't think it's necessary
00:37:663 (2,3) - would prefer this to be a slider to stick with the consistency you have in this section Sure
00:41:466 (3,4) - wide angles when the note pitch changes also feels kinda bad to play, maybe try a jump pattern like this instead? Though I don't agree that it was bad to play, your suggestion is not too bad either so I did apply it.
00:52:029 (5) - similar comment to 00:37:663 (2,3) - but change this into two circles to match the consistency you have in this half of the section In this case I don't really think it's necessary cause there it goes from circle > slider > circle > slider so it's consistent anyway.
01:03:860 (7) - maybe nc this to further accent the louder note in the trumpet? this also helps justify the direction change in the stream (wont point this out anymore) Don't think it's necessary
01:24:565 (1,2,3) - any reason why you ignore the trumpet here yet follow it for the rest of the kiai? Fixed.
01:32:593 (10,1) - shadow overlap in default skin, move 1 a little bit higher to avoid Already fixed this when the previous mod pointed it out

-Mo- wrote:

Shinenite's Insane
- 00:25:198 (5) - I would consider making this a slider to end on the downbeat so that the guitar is emphasised appropriately. Sure
- 00:47:381 (1) - You whistled the whole slider, which I don't think is intentional. Well, it was intentional, because there's a whistle sound in the music that apparently nobody hears (see: discussion on Discord) but even considering that I guess it's super out of place so I did fix it...
- 01:05:762 (5) - Slider thing. Sure
- 01:31:748 (4) - Missing clap. Fixed
- 01:38:086 (1,2,3) - The trumpet triple isn't really emphasised since the pattern blends with the stream from the previous combo. Maybe rotate these notes to add emphasis via angles? I think the triple is emphasised enough with the NC and the whistle hitsounding, changing the angle sort of messes with the pattern... May change it later if it comes up again, though.

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- 02:07:029 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These beats sound similar to the previous combo, so I would use a similar sort of pattern for consistency. Did change up the pattern of the previous jumps a bit, they're not exactly same but I did use triangles to make it more consistent.

-Mo- wrote:

Sorry if this sounds rude to you

I don't think you can make a good beatmap to this kind of "song". The player has to remember the whole song, because there is no general beat. It's very confusing. on the "normal" diff it was fine, but on "insane" it was really hard, because I never heard the song before, and there was no beat to follow.

Therefore, I suggest you forfeit instead you try again with another song, that has a beat the player can follow and play to every time

General
- 00:00:057 - Might aswell put the red timing point here. We talked about this already

Easy
- 00:35:550 (3) - Maybe just make this a curve like 00:33:860 (1)? Three different sliders in the same combo seems kind of messy. Sure why not
- 01:04:283 (1) - Why is this different to 00:57:522 (1,2)? You're missing a lot more beats with this slider which doesn't seem like the necessary thing to do. Explained this in LON's mod above
- 01:17:804 (3) - NC should be here. so it should
- 01:19:494 (1) - And kill this one. All righty then
- 01:36:396 (3) - Might aswell make this a curve to pair with 01:34:705 (1). Seems I forgot to change this after creating a gap here
- 01:44:846 (1,2,3,4) - This being the only red tick combo for this section seems kind of out of place and may throw beginners off expecting consistency. Sounds better to me since it goes with the vocals and constant white ticks have never done anyone any favors, they'll have to buck up or play some 0.96* beginner if they can't handle this, it's even 1/1 still :L
- 01:56:677 (4) - Pair with 01:55:832 (3). Meh all right

Normal
- 00:31:325 (3,4) - 00:33:015 (3) - Having these as inconsistent rhythms doesn't seem right to me.
- 00:44:846 (3,4) - 00:46:536 (3) - Yeah. These have to do with how the vocals are structured (particularly in the second example) and the desire to leave a small gap for a player to not have to constantly hit objects - that's what the Hard is for so they can get screwed
- 01:38:086 (1,2) - Pairing thing. Dunno why that has an anchor to begin with
- 02:04:283 (4,5) - I feel like these beats seem out of place, since the final strong trumpet is on 02:04:071 mapped to a slider tail, and then you follow with two active beats on calm beats. I would maybe try this rhythm. Y'know what, I agree. Did this.

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- 02:08:931 (4) - I'd maybe put the NC here. Sure, why not

|Hard
- 00:26:254 - 00:26:677 - I'd aim to map these beats to active notes since this is where the guitar is. Does no one hear guitar triples >:c
- 00:47:593 (2) - This 1/4 with such a sharp angle on it just looks out of place to me. Did something slightly different here with some rotations and deleting of anchors
- 01:06:818 - 01:07:240 - Active note thing. Guitar triple thing
- 01:06:184 - 01:07:663 - NCs should be here right? Indeed they should be
- 01:31:747 (4) - Seems to be missing a clap. Guess his jokes weren't appreciated, what's up with that

Savage
- 00:17:276 (2,3) - Nazi thing, stack messed up. Thought this was fixed :L
- 00:25:303 (5) - I don't hear anything to warrant a triple here personally. I hear something......
- 00:33:332 - There's a beat here you could map to if you wanted. Huh, you're right. I don't want to map an inconsistent beat though
- 00:45:269 (1,1) - This sort of spacing and smooth flow seems kind of innappropriate for the downbeat. Maybe try increase the spacing and add some emphasis through angles? You have a point about the spacing, changed this
- 00:52:029 (1,1) - Same thing. Note that this also has the same spacing as 00:51:607 (1,1) which could be confusing. Yeah okay that's fair
- 01:05:867 (5) - Seems overmapped to me. Okay you may have a point here, I hear a triple in the similar section that occurs before this though, and isn't an inconsistency a bigger problem
- 01:12:734 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Yeah I think you know how I feel about these already, but you won't change them probably /shrug Shades of Zepp
- 01:31:748 (4) - Clap thing. Laine's thing
- 01:37:241 (1,2,3,4) - Up to you with what you decide to do with this, but I found it kind of difficult to get 300s on all of these consistently with this arrangement. I'll brainstorm this
- 01:43:579 (6) - Also missing a clap. Wheee

Thanks for the -Mo-d

Neoskylove wrote:

Q

[savage]
00:00:058 (1,2,3,4,5) - too big Ds? Shortened a tiny bit
00:09:987 - add a beat Think it's a double
00:28:579 (1,2,3) - too big SV, I think this SV dion't need. yeah it's a bit gimmicky but i'd like to keep it if possible
01:17:804 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Just back and linear fourth pattern looks not so fun for me. Eh I like these personally, dunno how they play for others
01:39:776 (1,2) - overlap don't fit with your map, You have a point but I think it plays okay
02:09:987 (5) - Is this wiggle okay? I think it's okay as no one else has says it

GL Thanks for the mod

1. 00:00:902 (1) - Prefer this spinner end at 00:02:592 I think.
2. 01:07:663 (4) - NC?
3. 01:46:325 (3,4) - blanket

1. 01:29:424 (1,2) - blanket

1. 01:13:156 (2,3,4) - The arrangement of those sliders seems not so vivid to me.. Consider putting them higher from each other?

1. 00:13:579 (1,2,3) - DS could be larger, no obvious downbeats used here;
2. 01:38:086 (1,2,3) - Hmmm... So here you continue the stream when it comes with an NC. And you changed DS here for emphasis. It's OK but for newbie 4* players they would think this arrangement a bit exhausted to play with and I think something soft could be used to replace this.
3. 01:53:297 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - A regular octagon would be better;

1. 01:38:086 (1,2,3) - (Same as 01:38:086 (1,2,3) in Shinenite diff)

1. 01:00:480 (6) - ctrl+g?
2. 02:09:987 (5) - Wow nice slider!

1. well, nothing wrong XD

1. 00:08:086 (6,7) - these two could add finish, to follow the song.
2. 00:19:494 (5,6) - I want to suggest you to stretch these two slider to 3/4 http://puu.sh/uxRhb/a5f643ddf6.jpg these rhythm is kinda unique so I think there need something different that is not normally 1/2, It's also give more feeling.
3. 00:24:776 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe less their spacing like 00:26:043 (3,4,5,6,7,8) ? I think it's not strong enough to be spaced like 00:23:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) and more. It even weaker than 00:26:043 (3,4,5,6,7,8) imo.
4. 00:28:579 (1,2) - how fast of slider doesn't fit with spacing imo. fast slider but short spacing make it less flow so I think make them further is better. something like http://puu.sh/uxXTI/9a29a73527.jpg
5. 00:40:198 (7) - replace with two circles fits better imo. sound on tail is pretty strong so change to circle and make some jump is more fun to play.
6. 00:40:621 (1) - I think this slider is more fit with the song if it's slower and stretch to 3/4.
7. 01:00:480 (6) - aaa ctrl+g is more flow I think but I don't force your style XD
8. 01:05:339 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same
9. 01:09:142 (1,2,3,1) - same
10. 02:08:297 (8) - 1.50x spacing is more fit imo, not overjumped.
11. 00:19:917 (6) - sampleset-drum clap sounds better and will be consistency with 00:26:678 (8)
12. 01:05:445 (2) - remove sampleset-drum for consistency?
13. 01:11:043 (1,3) - whistle on tail?
14. I think you still need to add many finish hitsound for example 01:48:227 (1) , 01:44:846 (1) and etc.

1. 01:49:705 - http://puu.sh/uxZGr/6a44ccaa96.jpg is more fit with the song/hitsound you use imo, really strong on tail so it's more fit if it's circle and jump to next slider.
2. 01:52:452 (1) - no need NC imo. it's just.... unnecessary.
3. 01:53:297 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - will be perfect if the spacing is increase bit by bit per circle. more fit with the song and give more impact.
4. 01:55:409 - strong beat at tail, kinda lacks of impact http://puu.sh/uxZVr/dd40f099ae.jpg this rhythm is more fit and plays better imo.
5. 02:00:058 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - same
6. 02:02:170 (1,1,2) - same
7. 02:08:931 (1) - make it further? might confused player that it's 1/2 rhythm to (2)
8. your diff still lacks of many finish hitsound, please check them o.o

1. 00:14:212 (5,6,7) - make them liner with 4 like 00:13:579 (1,2,3,4) really plays better, unless you want to use force-flow pattern.
2. 00:32:276 (5) - add NC
3. I think many finish hitsound still missing such as 00:44:001 (1)
4. 00:48:649 (5,6,1) - maybe make their spacing consistent like you did on 00:49:494 (2,3,4)?

1. 00:08:508 (1,2,3) - aaa it looks more like spacing error tbh, because they are the only part that has spacing like this even the rhythm is not that different with other pattern. use the same spacing as other part?
2. 00:28:156 (5) - looks like spacing error, move it further.
3. 00:54:776 (1) - this kind of pattern no need NC imo.
4. same hitsound suggestion as savage diff.
5. 00:09:353 (1) - no need NC.

1. you did very good on this diff, some note might off the playfield? such as 02:01:325 (4), otherwise it's perfect.

1. 01:24:565 (1,2,3) - this rhythm is pretty weird for beginner tbh, they always got told that just follow the drum but this rhythm is vocal instead of drum. follow drum instead like you did on 01:38:086 (1,2,3) is better imo.
2. 01:31:325 (1,2,3) - same here, beginner can't pay attention that much to the vocal imo. they focus on approach circle and drum. (I teach many beginner player here XD)

-Spica- wrote:

[Warpy's Insane]

1. 01:38:086 (1,2,3) - (Same as 01:38:086 (1,2,3) in Shinenite diff) I don't think there's a better way to do it since a repeat slider would make the trumpet feel less important than the drums which is the reverse of what I want so for now at least I'll leave it

P A N wrote:

[Warpy]

1. 01:49:705 - http://puu.sh/uxZGr/6a44ccaa96.jpg is more fit with the song/hitsound you use imo, really strong on tail so it's more fit if it's circle and jump to next slider. Sure
2. 01:52:452 (1) - no need NC imo. it's just.... unnecessary. I want to keep it consistent with the other parts of my map basically just NC after every sv increase like 01:50:762 (1) - 01:55:832 (1) - and some others
3. 01:53:297 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - will be perfect if the spacing is increase bit by bit per circle. more fit with the song and give more impact. Sure but hard to do without making the jumps really big, but hope this works a bit better
4. 01:55:409 - strong beat at tail, kinda lacks of impact http://puu.sh/uxZVr/dd40f099ae.jpg this rhythm is more fit and plays better imo. fine
5. 02:00:058 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - same same
6. 02:02:170 (1,1,2) - same ^
7. 02:08:931 (1) - make it further? might confused player that it's 1/2 rhythm to (2) kind of hard to do with limited space but I tried
8. your diff still lacks of many finish hitsound, please check them o.o Redid a lot of my hitsounds hopefully a lot better now

-Spica- wrote:

[Shinenite's Insane]

1. 00:13:579 (1,2,3) - DS could be larger, no obvious downbeats used here; Sure
2. 01:38:086 (1,2,3) - Hmmm... So here you continue the stream when it comes with an NC. And you changed DS here for emphasis. It's OK but for newbie 4* players they would think this arrangement a bit exhausted to play with and I think something soft could be used to replace this. I think that part in particular is very intense so although I can definitely see what you're saying ny it being a bit difficult, I think making it any less emphasised/spaced would not fit for the music.
3. 01:53:297 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - A regular octagon would be better Ehh... Seems kinda unnecessary, I'd just rather leave it

P A N wrote:

[Shinenite]

1. 00:14:212 (5,6,7) - make them liner with 4 like 00:13:579 (1,2,3,4) really plays better, unless you want to use force-flow pattern. Sure
2. 00:32:276 (5) - add NC Fixed
3. I think many finish hitsound still missing such as 00:44:001 (1) Did add that finish, and did also add more of them in other parts of the map but honestly I feel like the most intense sounds already have a finish on them and I don't see the point of adding more of them in any other places.
4. 00:48:649 (5,6,1) - maybe make their spacing consistent like you did on 00:49:494 (2,3,4)? Sure

Ain053 wrote:

forward and back and then fooorward and back and then forward and back and then ONE STEP FORWARD

1. 00:16:959 (1,2) - lmao
2. 00:30:480 - From this point onward, the rhythm could've been better with more density variations. It's quite bland with 1/1 stuff constantly going on until like 00:55:832 .
3. 01:17:804 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Was expecting some symmetric concept like 01:11:043 (1,2,3,4) - 01:14:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - tbh. (Actually you could've placed 01:16:959 (5,6) in a way that they're symmetric with 01:14:424 (1,2) but up to you I guess, though currently the concept looks inconsistent compared to other diffs)
4. 01:21:184 (1,2) - You can use a 2/1 slider + circle instead too, according to your rhythm idea in Normal.

1. 00:15:269 (1) - Since the rhythm changed here, you could use sth else different than this cuz you already used a 1/1 slider thing on 00:11:888 (1,1) which don't have the same rhythm as this.
2. 01:26:043 (4,1) - Swap NC I guess.
3. 01:27:945 (1,2) - Why aren't these the same symmetric stuff like 01:31:325 (1,2) - 01:34:705 (1,2) - etc?
4. Overall aesthetics can still be polished imo, sth like 00:19:917 (3,3) - 00:26:677 (4,1,2,3) - looks really cluttered and should be cleaned up.
5. Also same thing as what Mr.Hobbes mentioned about rhythm density in the second kiai.

1. 00:54:142 (1) - Can be confused with 00:43:579 (7) - 00:47:593 (2) - which have different number of repeats, the safest bet for this is to add a triplet on top of 00:54:142 (1) so you will have only 1 repeat on it.
2. 01:04:283 (1,3) - Where's the 1/4 rhythms aaaa, if you're sacrificing 01:04:283 (1) for 01:03:860 (5) then it's not really worth it cuz you're breaking your own consistency.
3. 01:21:395 (2,4) - Aren't these supposed to be hitsounded in the same way or sth?
4. 01:23:297 - Could've been hitsounded too.
5. 01:53:508 (2,3,4,5) - More consistent visual spacing pls
6. Kiai feels surprisingly underwhelming for some reason, do you use any concepts in particular for kiai parts? Or do you just map normally? Asking this cuz to me kiai isn't interesting as other parts like 00:16:959 - 01:11:043 where you have cooler stuff going on.

1. 00:02:805 (1,2,3,4,5) - A stream doesn't play really well because these sounds are not equally prominent, a different kind of rhythm should be used.
2. 01:01:959 (4) - Probably should just use a triplet since it's musically different from 01:00:903 (1,3) .
3. 01:11:043 - N a good idea to ignore those constant 1/1 sounds as they're really prominent in this section, using 1/4 rhythms is fine but they aren't done in a way that really highlights the constant 1/1 properly/consistently, which is the most prominent thing in that section. Things like 01:13:790 (8,9,10,11,12) - completely kills the emphasis on it since the most prominent thing 01:14:001 (10) is in the middle of the stream, 01:18:649 - this should be clickable in the first place, etc.
4. 01:31:325 (1,2,3) - 01:31:959 (5,6,7) - Why aren't you using the same DS on both of these tho?
5. 01:37:346 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3) - Now the emphasis here isn't good as it should be, in this case 01:38:085 should be emphasized. To do so, you have to do something else other than just continuing the stream 01:38:086 (1,2,3) to make the gameplay more discernible as the rhythm changes.
6. 01:58:156 - 01:58:261 - Could do some 1/4 rhythms here, the rhythm changes at 01:58:367 so in this case you can map those beats I mentioned so that a 1/1 gap will be introduced after 01:58:367 which makes more sense since the rhythm changed there rather than the current one which suddenly does a 1/1 gap 01:57:945 (9,1) when the rhythm hasn't changed yet.
7. Kiai is very repetitive tbh, at least you should do something differently on the later half 01:38:085 for variations.
8. Aesthetics could be improved tho, feels like some overlaps 00:18:860 (1,3,4,5) - 01:00:058 (3,2) - 01:40:621 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - are rather unintentionally placed than having a solid reasoning or concept behind them.
9. The diff itself is okay-ish but seems to lack in details like aesthetics, flows, variations, etc. Stuff like 00:20:338 (1,2,3,4,7) - Looks very forced, 01:53:297 (1,8) - 02:00:481 (3,8) - Could be polished according to how the pattern was arranged, etc.

1. 00:08:085 - The drum is building up here but you already used jump patterns since 00:07:240 onward. There should be a more significant change in gameplay at 00:08:085 so you should make these two parts 00:07:241 (2,3,4,5) - 00:08:086 (1,2,3,4,5) - more discernible, according to the drums' rhythm.
2. 00:09:987 - Should be mapped as well if you went for 00:09:881 .
3. 01:45:058 (3,4,5) - This one is inconsistently stood out from the others cuz you used wide angles unlike every other ones 01:28:156 (3,4,5) - 01:31:536 (3,4,5) - 01:34:917 (3,4,5) - etc where you used sharp angles as transitions between triplets.

1. 00:09:987 - Should be mapped too, otherwise you'll just have a 3/4 gap 00:09:881 (7,1) which we all know it's really awkward and not intuitive in gameplay.
2. 00:23:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Like, you used 00:23:191 (5,6,7,8,9) which mainly involving a fast movement, and then you're forcing 00:23:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) which also involves a fast movement but the rhythm isn't really calling for it, 00:27:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - is a lot more easier to play and more fitting to the song.
3. 00:23:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Also why the pattern is so widely spaced compared to 00:27:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - zzz
4. 00:28:579 (1,2,3) - These one are like out of my expectation zzz, if you're going to do something like this you have to introduce something to indicate a fast SV concept before putting it into use otherwise it'll trip players up. In this case I would do either overlap those sliders or change the shapes to something that involves less movement to give more leniency of tripping up in actual gameplay, etc etc these are just my ideas.
5. The usage of spaced triplets and streams are sooo much to the point where they don't really look interesting/special throughout the map, and there isn't much things going on besides some symmetric patterns so yeah the diff could've been more interesting compared to Hard since you have a lot less gameplay restrictions. (but hey I really like Hard tbh)

Electoz wrote:

[Easy]

1. 00:16:959 (1,2) - lmao Fixed.
2. 00:30:480 - From this point onward, the rhythm could've been better with more density variations. It's quite bland with 1/1 stuff constantly going on until like 00:55:832 I'll add some more repeat sliders or things here
3. 01:17:804 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Was expecting some symmetric concept like 01:11:043 (1,2,3,4) - 01:14:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - tbh. (Actually you could've placed 01:16:959 (5,6) in a way that they're symmetric with 01:14:424 (1,2) but up to you I guess, though currently the concept looks inconsistent compared to other diffs) I kind of thought that in the lowest diff the player would hear the lyrics more and not really pay attention to the beat so I just went "whatever" for the Easy in terms of structural similarity to the other diffs, but yeah this is a bit of a point, I'll try and work on the pattern a bit
4. 01:21:184 (1,2) - You can use a 2/1 slider + circle instead too, according to your rhythm idea in Normal. ]I like what it follows here but if it gets brought up as an inconsistency I can pop it off no big deal

[Normal]

1. 00:15:269 (1) - Since the rhythm changed here, you could use sth else different than this cuz you already used a 1/1 slider thing on 00:11:888 (1,1) which don't have the same rhythm as this. Good point, fixed this
2. 01:26:043 (4,1) - Swap NC I guess. Yes, better
3. 01:27:945 (1,2) - Why aren't these the same symmetric stuff like 01:31:325 (1,2) - 01:34:705 (1,2) - etc? I kind of split them into sets, like "first instance of the verse patterned like this, second one patterned like this" although at some point I made 01:28:579 (2,1) - so I dunno where that came from. Can look into repatterning if necessary
4. Overall aesthetics can still be polished imo, sth like 00:19:917 (3,3) - 00:26:677 (4,1,2,3) - looks really cluttered and should be cleaned up. I mean, are they that noticeable? :c I think they work okay structurally
5. Also same thing as what Mr.Hobbes mentioned about rhythm density in the second kiai. I know I've said it already but I think with the Easy existing the standard of difficulty for the Normal can afford to be a bit higher or denser than regularly seen. Also since it's the kiai I think the more intense sounds can be justified as being a denser rhythm

[Hard]

1. 00:54:142 (1) - Can be confused with 00:43:579 (7) - 00:47:593 (2) - which have different number of repeats, the safest bet for this is to add a triplet on top of 00:54:142 (1) so you will have only 1 repeat on it. Good idea actually, I was wondering how to make those easier to read with the different number of repeats throughout the map
2. 01:04:283 (1,3) - Where's the 1/4 rhythms aaaa, if you're sacrificing 01:04:283 (1) for 01:03:860 (5) then it's not really worth it cuz you're breaking your own consistency. Good point here as well, made ion consistent with previous instance of this rhythm
3. 01:21:395 (2,4) - Aren't these supposed to be hitsounded in the same way or sth? They should be now
4. 01:23:297 - Could've been hitsounded too. It has a drum finish :c
5. 01:53:508 (2,3,4,5) - More consistent visual spacing pls Changed this
6. Kiai feels surprisingly underwhelming for some reason, do you use any concepts in particular for kiai parts? Or do you just map normally? Asking this cuz to me kiai isn't interesting as other parts like 00:16:959 - 01:11:043 where you have cooler stuff going on. Well I dunno I kinda went with the flow of the Insane but simplified, lotta triples but not too many 1/2 after it cause that might be too much spread wise. And here I thought it might be too dense O_o

[Savage]

1. 00:09:987 - Should be mapped too, otherwise you'll just have a 3/4 gap 00:09:881 (7,1) which we all know it's really awkward and not intuitive in gameplay. The sound sounds like a double to me but if it's mentioned again I might do it
2. 00:23:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Like, you used 00:23:191 (5,6,7,8,9) which mainly involving a fast movement, and then you're forcing 00:23:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) which also involves a fast movement but the rhythm isn't really calling for it, 00:27:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - is a lot more easier to play and more fitting to the song.
3. 00:23:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Also why the pattern is so widely spaced compared to 00:27:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - zzz Okay I can explain this. GranDSenpai pointed out to me that at 00:23:719 (1) - the trumpet suddenly has a really intense rise, which then drops off a bit immediately after, before fading away completely by 00:25:832 (2) - and then a smaller rise happens at 00:27:100 (1) - . This is why the spacing is so huge at 00:23:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - , considerably smaller between notes but still a little high at 00:24:776 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and back to higher at 00:27:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
4. 00:28:579 (1,2,3) - These one are like out of my expectation zzz, if you're going to do something like this you have to introduce something to indicate a fast SV concept before putting it into use otherwise it'll trip players up. In this case I would do either overlap those sliders or change the shapes to something that involves less movement to give more leniency of tripping up in actual gameplay, etc etc these are just my ideas. I get it, and I asked for playtests to see how much this tripped people up. This map was originally a shitty gimmick attempt and these sliders are kind of an artifact of that, but I think they work okay with how SV is implemented in the rest of the map
5. The usage of spaced triplets and streams are sooo much to the point where they don't really look interesting/special throughout the map, and there isn't much things going on besides some symmetric patterns so yeah the diff could've been more interesting compared to Hard since you have a lot less gameplay restrictions. (but hey I really like Hard tbh) Savage was the first difficulty created and it was made in a slightly different style to the rest of them so it's a bit peculiar in that respect yeah. The number of triple sounds in the song is soooo high it's a little ridiculous. It's why I chose to ignore all the drum triples and map only guitar/trumpet ones because otherwise it would have been even more saturated. I hope the map doesn't feel that bland as an "extra" but I'm the first to admit I'm not very creative :c Glad you enjoyed the Hard!

Shinenite's diff can still be improved more, Savage could use a little more work (that aside, the diff is "kind of" fine just there's something I disagreed with). Other diffs are cool tho.
Good luck~ Thanks very much for the mod and the short review at the end, very helpful! I'll ask around a bit more and make some more tweaks, while Shinenite hones her own craft and Warpyc salivates in anticipation.

Electoz wrote:

[Warpy's Insane]

1. 00:08:085 - The drum is building up here but you already used jump patterns since 00:07:240 onward. There should be a more significant change in gameplay at 00:08:085 so you should make these two parts 00:07:241 (2,3,4,5) - 00:08:086 (1,2,3,4,5) - more discernible, according to the drums' rhythm. Fair point, changed to make it more fitting with the music
2. 00:09:987 - Should be mapped as well if you went for 00:09:881 . It's a very subtle sound that is barely noticeable and imo not even comparable to 00:09:881 - which is a heavy drum sound. I tried it out and I just ended up getting a 100'd on the note all the time, so I'll just leave it like this for the time being
3. 01:45:058 (3,4,5) - This one is inconsistently stood out from the others cuz you used wide angles unlike every other ones 01:28:156 (3,4,5) - 01:31:536 (3,4,5) - 01:34:917 (3,4,5) - etc where you used sharp angles as transitions between triplets. I don't know why I haven't changed this yet because it's definitely true and I've known that part plays meh for a while

Thanks for the mod!

https://puu.sh/v5IR2/70a2208359.osu changed some other stuff as well

Electoz wrote:

[Shinenite's Insane]

1. 00:02:805 (1,2,3,4,5) - A stream doesn't play really well because these sounds are not equally prominent, a different kind of rhythm should be used. Changed it up to use a kickslider/repeat slider
2. 01:01:959 (4) - Probably should just use a triplet since it's musically different from 01:00:903 (1,3) . Fixed
3. 01:11:043 - N a good idea to ignore those constant 1/1 sounds as they're really prominent in this section, using 1/4 rhythms is fine but they aren't done in a way that really highlights the constant 1/1 properly/consistently, which is the most prominent thing in that section. Things like 01:13:790 (8,9,10,11,12) - completely kills the emphasis on it since the most prominent thing 01:14:001 (10) is in the middle of the stream, 01:18:649 - this should be clickable in the first place, etc. Very good point, made changes to emphasize the 1/1 more in spots.
4. 01:31:325 (1,2,3) - 01:31:959 (5,6,7) - Why aren't you using the same DS on both of these tho? Whoops, fixed.
5. 01:37:346 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3) - Now the emphasis here isn't good as it should be, in this case 01:38:085 should be emphasized. To do so, you have to do something else other than just continuing the stream 01:38:086 (1,2,3) to make the gameplay more discernible as the rhythm changes. I suppose I can agree with it not being as emphasized as it could be, but with the triple going in a different direction than the stream/NC/hitsounding, I think it's enough. Frankly, I just feel like changing the rhythm would make it inconsistent with the rest of kiai.
6. 01:58:156 - 01:58:261 - Could do some 1/4 rhythms here, the rhythm changes at 01:58:367 so in this case you can map those beats I mentioned so that a 1/1 gap will be introduced after 01:58:367 which makes more sense since the rhythm changed there rather than the current one which suddenly does a 1/1 gap 01:57:945 (9,1) when the rhythm hasn't changed yet. Sure
7. Kiai is very repetitive tbh, at least you should do something differently on the later half 01:38:085 for variations. I don't really think so?
8. Aesthetics could be improved tho, feels like some overlaps 00:18:860 (1,3,4,5) - 01:00:058 (3,2) - 01:40:621 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - are rather unintentionally placed than having a solid reasoning or concept behind them. See below.
9. The diff itself is okay-ish but seems to lack in details like aesthetics, flows, variations, etc. Stuff like 00:20:338 (1,2,3,4,7) - Looks very forced, 01:53:297 (1,8) - 02:00:481 (3,8) - Could be polished according to how the pattern was arranged, etc. For this and above, fixed the examples (with some exceptions like with the jump patterns, cause I think those are polished enough) as well as other things I thought I could improve.

Cerulean Veyron wrote:

Queue
Fixed the lack of hitsounds in each part
[- - Normal - -]

1. 00:10:198 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Apart of this section, these notes as a whole seems to be a distinct lack of hitsounding. And it sounds really empty too even with only hearing the default soft hitnormals. You can at least add a few drum claps on the upbeats, or the snares/chords over the song track to fill up the hitsound audibility.
2. 00:34:705 (3,1) - Likely a subjective thing for me to say for the two sliders here. Patterning's good, but maybe doing a little more structure of reshaping the curve on slider (1) would probably work much better than the current. Because in my personal view of this, it nearly looked a bit steep when there's another similar slider in rhythm after it. Either you could redo something here, or usually trying a symmetry here perhaps. Well, you could just try your way to improve the aesthetics at least heh. Sure, tried straightening these out a bit
3. 01:01:959 (4,2) - Pretty far overlap excluding the approach rate of the difficulty, but it can possibly be seen to be honest. But hey... overlaps are actually okay to implement on a map, but it should be used correctly. So, I'm quite certain you've tried your best here avoiding such awkward overlaps because of the distance spacing. However, I can give a little help for this part. Over these two sliders' bodies are technically collided, but what I think better is to only overlap slider (2)'s head and most of the body is visible. Pretty good for aesthetics and patterning in my opinion, but it's your call. You kind of have a point here, I'd argue you can't really see it but dunno. Will consider
4. 02:03:015 (3,1,2,3) - Ehh, this is literally the only 1/2 three-circles over all the difficulty, which kinda created a sharp spike by intensity. There are may ways of calming this rhythm composition down though, probably nerfing is also not a good idea as I thought. Maybe slider + circle (or vise versa)? Repeated slider? It's just kinda weird that the song track here sounds too great for an impact by clicking them out. But a spike is probably going to be a big issue, I assume. I figured because of the song and the presence of an Easy diff it's okay, it is a small spike compared to rest of the difficulty in terms of sheer circles but the kiai does up the density a bit anyway so I think it's a nice swan song to end the higher density section.

[- - Hard - -]

1. 00:10:198 - The same thing from the first issue of hitsound lacking.
2. 00:38:085 (4,5) - The structural flowing from circle (3) towards slider (4) doesn't seem to be the smoothly way of players' cursor movements, while it is almost definitely a sharp turn or something that flows pretty uncomfortable. To find a little solution for that, maybe doing some flipping/rotating this slider would work something out. Like this one, for example. You can try the sample one, if you don't mind the overlap. Or you can do similar to this if you dislike the structure. Hmm isn't it better to have the slider point towards 5? At least that makes more sense to me
3. 00:54:353 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - The distance spacing in each and every circle is probably looked a bit random, like it's going over approximately 1.5x and goes lower or higher overtime without bearing the note density or the intense of the song track. I understand the patterning about this, but this should also be an objective. Since each of the melody has it's own density, and it shouldn't constantly be increasing into larger distance spacing to the end and become ridiculously too hard. So instead, keeping a balance of using high spacing for the latter ones. Like 00:54:353 (3,4,5,6) - having the same distance spacing for the similarity sound where the intensity is basically all the same (1.4x or 1.5x), and 00:55:410 (7,8,1) - are the larger ones (approx 1.8x) for a little bit of the build up. Didn't make it as high as 1.8 to avoid a spike, but did make the DS a biiit more similar here
4. 01:06:607 (3) - Does this 1/4 repeat sliderkick actually follow something? Because hearing with a slower playback rate over this part more than thrice, there's no kinds of hi-hats or rides that could possibly make this part considering a triple hit compared to 00:26:043 (3) -. So, redoing the rhythm composition here should be done. It's mapped to the guitar triple.
5. 01:24:142 (4,1) - Well, this sounds pretty much great as an impact of the kiai hitting up. So, I wondered why shouldn't this part be something like, a small jump or something that gives the intensity as an emphasis for this one. Perhaps you could at least slightly extend the distance spacing a little more, but just be careful if you're going to apply while the patterning is kinda near an edge of the gameplay field. If not, it's not technically a necessity or a must-do issue. Sure why not, spaced it more to make it have a better impact

[- - Savage - -]

1. - So, there's an unsnapped inherited point on 01:50:331 - which seems like a mistake, or overlooked on the timing setup. So ehh, resnap it on the white tick just after it. That's weird, what happened here
2. 00:43:156 (1,2,3,4) - Okay, this... is probably a little bit of something that's not likely to be good in use of the structure. The angle of the turning is way too sharp when moving onto the stream, and is not pretty comfortable in movement in my opinion. You could try flipping/rotating the slider that it's slider tail should move towards the circles, or redo the placements of the streams if you want to keep the flow before this one. Good point, tried something else here with an overlap
3. 00:58:156 (5,6,1) - The overlap here doesn't seem right though, the placement of circle (1) is kinda out of context too. It's not wrong to attempt to make a back-and-forth, but this one doesn't seem to work well as that. So reconsidering this to find another grid of placement rather than placing it awkwardly in-between the spaced triplets. Dammit I must have missed this after repatterning those triples
4. 01:52:029 (1,2) - Hmm this feels a bit close enough by distance spacing, no? It's 0.8x, so I assume that. Try to, at least, move 01:52:452 (2,3) - lower and flip it vertically with Ctrl + J so it could possibly be approximately 0.9x somehow. Or you could do something else here other than moving it lower or so, just as long as the issue counts. Moved it a bit more but didn't make it exactly 0.9x because I want some leeway between the sudden SV shift and the stream
5. 01:59:846 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I can see this is a very clear and obvious copy-paste from the part on 01:53:086 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -. Since in this very present, objectives like these are now a thing for ranking a beatmap in process(if you're going to). So to show a little more effort in almost all sections of the difficulty, you may need to remake this part for it's sake. But likely, it's not likely to feel that it's some "laziness overcome" or somewhat reason. It's just that it kinda takes away all the potential patterns and such where you can already have the chance to make every single pattern more exciting overtime and through the whole difficulty. Of course, isn't this the hardest difficulty? ~ Hehe, you have a bit of a point here, but I feel like since the sound that is being followed between these sections is the same, a little copy/paste rotation at least makes sense rhythmically. And since the sound also increases as the pattern progresses, I think the back n forth spam is appropriate, if a bit simple. Since the map in general utilizes techniques such as symmetry in large amounts, I don't feel (personally) that mapping this pattern removes some potential from the map, since the difficulty already is geared that way from the beginning. It was also originally mapped as an Insane, I don't know how to map extras D=

The map was pretty good to me personally! There are just some things that may need more tweaks in order to improve the structures in the difficulties I modded. I would recommend focusing on aesthetics, patterning, and a few rhythm stuffs because that was mostly mentioned on this post and mainly an objective to look through, or thorough. Still not really ready, needs a little more work over it, and maybe getting more mods is a good idea too. But afterwards, I hope you find this useful! Thanks for the mod, it was very useful and nice to have a different viewpoint on my mapset.

Come[Back]Home wrote:

Warpy's Insane

* 00:16:114 (6,1) - This would look good blanket sure
* 00:31:114 (3,4) - That overlap somehow makes the whole pattern look awful guess so, moved it down a bit so it doesn't overlap
* 00:43:895 (4) - overmapped, delete this one because there is not really any kind of sound Fair
* 00:55:621 (10) - How about you move this one too 118/13 to have a nice or better flow. I dont like where it is placed currently tbh Yeh,
flows a bit better now
* 01:09:987 (3,1) - This looks really ugly, pls try something else here Looks pretty good imo
* Some of the triplets at the kiais flow kinda weird, but it may just be me so I wont mention them. Copy paste is good and all, but it has to flow well too I think it flows fine, honestly good flow was one of the main things I was going for with this diff, the only thing I can imagine as being pretty flow breaking is the spacing of the triples but then again they are like that to emphasize the trumpets, so I think its fine and still flows quite good. Also believe it or not, not a single element of this map is copy pasted, I just don't like mapping the same sound in 5 different ways and tried to stick with the theme which was meant to be smooth flow and intense trumpets linear flow sucks

Thanks for modding

Nevo wrote:

random thing from q yo

Warpy's Insane
- 00:33:860 (2) - maybe stack the tail of this to 00:32:804 (4) - sure
- 00:37:874 (3) - raise this up so it stacks to the tail of 00:38:931 (1) - and then you could move 00:38:086 (4) - to the right a little bit so you keep that even spacing just for neatness why not
Thanks
I too enjoy the Third Reich

also applied some changes from irc chat with GranDSenpai

2017-10-22 18:33 GranDSenpai: 02:07:874 (5,6,7,8,9) -
2017-10-22 18:34 GranDSenpai: THIS QUINT SUCKS
2017-10-22 18:34 Warpyc: why
2017-10-22 18:34 GranDSenpai: i dunno
2017-10-22 18:34 GranDSenpai: whenever i play it
2017-10-22 18:34 GranDSenpai: i hate it
2017-10-22 18:34 GranDSenpai: it's awkward
2017-10-22 18:34 Warpyc: hmm
2017-10-22 18:34 GranDSenpai: i feel like it should just be a triple
2017-10-22 18:34 GranDSenpai: cause
2017-10-22 18:35 GranDSenpai: with hitsounds loud
2017-10-22 18:35 GranDSenpai: i can't even hear what you're mapping to
2017-10-22 18:35 GranDSenpai: in the editor i can hear it
2017-10-22 18:35 GranDSenpai: but not while playing
2017-10-22 18:35 GranDSenpai: 02:09:142 (2) -
2017-10-22 18:35 GranDSenpai: also i think there shouyld be a triple here
2017-10-22 18:35 Warpyc: true 1-3 is a lot louder
2017-10-22 18:35 Warpyc: I could change that
2017-10-22 18:36 GranDSenpai: you could
2017-10-22 18:36 GranDSenpai: on 3 do a kick slider
2017-10-22 18:36 GranDSenpai: and still map 8
2017-10-22 18:36 GranDSenpai: wait
2017-10-22 18:36 GranDSenpai: on 7 map a kick slider
2017-10-22 18:36 GranDSenpai: and still have 9 somewhere
2017-10-22 18:36 GranDSenpai: emphasising the strong sounds while not undermapping
2017-10-22 18:36 Warpyc: also on 02:09:353 (2) - I didnt do the triple because I wanted to focus on trumpet
2017-10-22 18:37 GranDSenpai: if you do do a triple
2017-10-22 18:37 GranDSenpai: doesn't it focus on it more?
2017-10-22 18:37 Warpyc: not really
2017-10-22 18:37 GranDSenpai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9374706
2017-10-22 18:38 Warpyc: hmm yeah
2017-10-22 18:38 GranDSenpai: plus
2017-10-22 18:38 GranDSenpai: i feel like it plays better like that
2017-10-22 18:38 Warpyc: I did map the drums before
2017-10-22 18:38 Warpyc: and yeah
2017-10-22 18:38 Warpyc: akward break
2017-10-22 18:39 GranDSenpai: 01:37:241 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3) -
2017-10-22 18:39 GranDSenpai: also i have to say
2017-10-22 18:39 GranDSenpai: this is sexy
2017-10-22 18:39 Warpyc: its p nice
2017-10-22 18:39 GranDSenpai: well
2017-10-22 18:39 GranDSenpai: that's all i have to say abnout the map tbh
2017-10-22 18:39 GranDSenpai: rest is k_hand:
2017-10-22 18:39 Warpyc: hey man it was helpful

Nevo wrote:

random thing from q Hullo

Savage
- Minor ocd thing but you could move 00:00:058 (1,2,3,4,5) - so the 3 is in the center of the screen tried

eh

- 00:03:438 (1) - you could also center this it's just because it's like 1 pixel off not which makes me :C tried again
- 00:09:353 (5) - you can start a 1/2 slider here which of course means shorten 00:09:142 (4) - because the white tick is a pretty strong beat that should be clicked. I get where you're coming from with this, but the mapping here is more focused on the drum, so I think the current rhythm fits better
- 00:14:635 (8) - with the kinda reflecting thing you had going with 00:13:579 (1,2,3) - and 00:14:212 (5,6,7) - wouldn't it make more sense to put 00:14:635 (8) - at like x:256 y:172 because symmetry Makes the jump too big to justify imo
OR if you dont want it there you could move it to x:396 y:168 to reflect how you did 00:14:001 (4) - and then if you dont know where to put the other notes you could move 00:14:846 (9) - to overlap 00:13:156 (3) - and 00:15:058 (10) - to overlap 00:14:001 (4) - that is an absolutely brilliant idea, many thanks!
- 00:13:579 (1,2,3,5,6,7) - you could blanket these to 00:13:156 (3) - yeah seems better, dunno why it wasn't like that to begin with
- 00:15:269 (1,2) - this overlaps the slider which seems kinda messy adjusted per the mod of GranDSenpai
- 00:29:635 (1) - imo kinda bad looking wavy slider the curve just seems super "sharp" maybe make it more smooth Yes, GranDSenpai mentioned this too, tried my best to fix it
- 00:53:297 (1) - this doesnt have to be a red anchor it seems kinda random since like 00:51:607 (1) - isn't a sharp angle I suppose you have a point but I like variety :c
- 01:17:804 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why do these overlap but 01:12:734 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - doesnt maybe make the first one more like the second did something different here as per GranDSenpai's mod

1. 00:28:579 (1,2,3) - uncomfy flow on these to make them stand out even more, right now theyre just there and thats it i feel. needs more emphasis since those are p powerful trumpet noises. also red anchors like on 01:09:142 (1,2) -
2. i feel like the more robotic parts couldve been differentiated from the more jazzy parts by making more use of red anchor sliders
3. 01:49:705 (1) - why isnt this fully vertical :angery:
4. 01:55:409 (1,3) - 1 could blanket 3 or vice versa idk
5. 02:09:987 - lower sv here might work? more smooth feel imo

1. 00:19:494 (5,6) - these strike me as more buzzy than round. i feel that red anchors would represent these better
2. 00:28:579 (1,2,3) - nc spam across all 3 notes would do better to signify sv i feel - players will read the nc on 1 as just the start of a new measure so i think more are needed
3. 00:30:480 - starting here you get this sorta robotic voice in the bg that isnt really found in the previous parts - i feel more robotic instead of organic slider shapes would make the difference in sections more noticeable
4. 00:50:339 (4,5,6) - ctrlg to keep that movement symmetry thing from 00:49:072 (9,10) - ?
5. 01:17:804 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i feel this would fit better as sliders for consistency with the past 2 sets of combos
6. 01:24:565 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why not spaced :c. it's the kiai and the trumpet people associate in the map with spaced triples is there too, so i feel this should be spaced
7. 01:58:367 (1,1) - force movement from 1st to 2nd like the others, dont see any reason for stack
8. 02:09:987 (6) - nice

• 
  Savange

1. 00:00:902 - (very minor) I think it may be better to start the spinner here
2. 00:06:818 (1) - may be a bit more comfortable if you move it more to the right like maybe X:283 Y: 50

• Warpy's Insane

1. 00:07:663 (4) - this note is pretty strong imo - maybe give a bit more spacing than it does now
2. 00:36:396 (1,2,3) - (Minor) I feel this will flow better if you rotate this about 5 degrees

newton- wrote:

from q

[warpy's insane]

1. 00:28:579 (1,2,3) - uncomfy flow on these to make them stand out even more, right now theyre just there and thats it i feel. needs more emphasis since those are p powerful trumpet noises. also red anchors like on 01:09:142 (1,2) - Flow is fine especially since there are large breaks between the notes also I think the rhythm break does a good enough job of giving emphasis
2. i feel like the more robotic parts couldve been differentiated from the more jazzy parts by making more use of red anchor sliders this could have been a good idea if I designed the map with that in mind but I didn't and tbh it's just too much effort to change it now. Also not a big fan of sliders with red anchors. However, I did remove a few imo inconsistent red anchor sliders
3. 01:49:705 (1) - why isnt this fully vertical :angery: Fixed
4. 01:55:409 (1,3) - 1 could blanket 3 or vice versa idk Good idea
5. 02:09:987 - lower sv here might work? more smooth feel imo I think the 4x spacing jump to a 1x sv slider contrasts it enough already.
   More would just be asking for sliderbreaks
   
   Thx

Hailie wrote:

• Warpy's Insane

1. 00:07:663 (4) - this note is pretty strong imo - maybe give a bit more spacing than it does now This is a pretty good suggestion but I wont give up muh symmetry
2. 00:36:396 (1,2,3) - (Minor) I feel this will flow better if you rotate this about 5 degrees Sure
   
   Thanks

newton- wrote:

from q Good day

[savage]

1. 00:19:494 (5,6) - these strike me as more buzzy than round. i feel that red anchors would represent these better will consider, someone else mentioned consistency between red anchors and curves, so i might rework that whole idea
2. 00:28:579 (1,2,3) - nc spam across all 3 notes would do better to signify sv i feel - players will read the nc on 1 as just the start of a new measure so i think more are needed I'll consider this too if it gets mentioned again, but due to the long gap between the sliders on the timeline, I think this should be fine
3. 00:30:480 - starting here you get this sorta robotic voice in the bg that isnt really found in the previous parts - i feel more robotic instead of organic slider shapes would make the difference in sections more noticeable there is currently pretty much no distinction between the two kinds of sliders, each is just used for variety kinda whenever, I'll see about remedying that
4. 00:50:339 (4,5,6) - ctrlg to keep that movement symmetry thing from 00:49:072 (9,10) - ? I think it flows very awkwardly if I do that,
   this way I keep the symmetric look while keeping it comfortable to play
5. 01:17:804 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i feel this would fit better as sliders for consistency with the past 2 sets of combos As the build up comes to a head, I wanted to keep maximum tension for movement into the kiai
6. 01:24:565 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why not spaced :c. it's the kiai and the trumpet people associate in the map with spaced triples is there too, so i feel this should be spaced You are bloody right how has no one else mentioned this yet, even I didn't notice
7. 01:58:367 (1,1) - force movement from 1st to 2nd like the others, dont see any reason for stack Isn't enough space to make it look good..... but it's an inconsistency......aaaagh i'll have to think about how i'm going to deal with this one
8. 02:09:987 (6) - nice heh appreciate it

good luck! Thanks, thought-provoking mod! Gives me a lot to digest

Hailie wrote:

doubt i'll be helpful... you don't have to kd for this since it is very short Hello hello, we'll see Anything helpful is a leaf in the hat

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• 
  Savange

1. 00:00:902 - (very minor) I think it may be better to start the spinner here I'll think about it, it kinda doesn't matter, but also kinda does,
   so i'm not sure
2. 00:06:818 (1) - may be a bit more comfortable if you move it more to the right like maybe X:283 Y: 50 you are correct

this is probably my worst mod man in the words of Hannah Montana, "Everybody has those days" Don't sweat it

GL and have a star - map is really cool Appreciate the kind words