Mili - Utopiosphere -Platonism- [CatchTheBeat] · forum

Tyrell

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-04-23T18:41:24+00:00

Yumeno Himiko wrote:
Sorry for late!

[Tyrell's Utopia]
00:00:230 - 00:11:139 reconsider if you want to follow the pianos. i dont exactly get what you mean by this... explain further please. ;w;
00:19:320 (1) - split it into a slider + a circle, like other patterns. i used a longer slider here since it seemed to fit with the held vocal and it didnt really have a sound to justify making the slder 1/1/ also would make the pattern after awkward
01:16:252 (4) - to make the dash more clear, move it left to x:164 if i do that it messes up the equal distance of both jumps which should be understood and expected easily since increased spacing compared to previous walks
01:21:366 (5) - dash? a dash can fit here but i wanted to keep it a simple stream just because it feels nice and an interesting change of pace.
might consider a dash here tho if someone else suggests it as well
It's a nice diff.

That's all from me, good luck~

thx for the mod.

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-04-24T21:33:02+00:00

Yumeno Himiko wrote:
Sorry for late!

[Salad]
00:02:275 (2,3,4) - The rhythm will be better if you remove 00:02:445 (3) and add a note at 00:02:786 (4). It follows the piano.
00:05:514 - Your choice, I think it's nice to have a circle here.
00:07:730 (2,3,4) - same as the first suggestion
00:17:616 (2,3) - a bit ambiguous here, I think you can decrease ds a bit to make it more like a walk.
00:55:456 (2) - My suggestion is move it a bit right, closer to 00:54:775 (1), so the dash at 00:55:456 (2,3) will be more clear. If you're not meaning to have a dash, you'd better cut down ds a bit. - I think the current distance is fine, I've used this througout the whole map
01:01:934 (2) - Move it a bit left, a bit hard if catch it with a walk.
01:54:775 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - My suggestion is you can get ds decrease gradually, for the last patterns there're no dashes. This will match the lower volume perfectly.

[Platter]
00:00:230 - 00:11:139 reconsider if you want to follow the pianos. - ... But I am?
00:21:366 (5,6,7,8) - not a good idea to get an antiflow here, actually curving it to right will be much better. - Why not? I feel a hyperdash to 8 is too much so I chose to use antiflow instead and I don't see anything wrong with the current pattern.
00:34:832 (2,3,4) - not clear if can be catched without dash or 1 dash or 2 dashes, my suggestion is move 00:35:002 (3,4) to right and make only 1 dash here. - Again, this is intentional,
I think it fits the music well
00:54:775 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I wish I can get a dash every clap, but I can catch the whole pattern without using a dash. This is really awkward since this part is a bit strong. - Put dashes on downbeats instead.
For the last part, consider the same thing as I mentioned in Salad diff.

That's all from me, good luck~

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[ General]
All good! No general issues found.

[ Salad]

AIMod
Kiai's end isn't snapped! - 01:54:605 -

Gameplay
00:01:593 (1,2) - Distance here can be reduced slightly. Currently I still have the mind thinking that I should dash here, but I deem that (2) is not a good beat to be emphasized. You may try moving 00:00:230 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - altogether to x:256.
00:07:048 (1,2) - ^, reduce this distance too.
00:11:139 (1) - Perhaps you are trying to use this kind of timeline here, but I don't think it matches the audio at this point. It sounds much better to end at 00:11:820 - though. - But the piano is ending 00:11:650 - ?
00:24:434 - 00:35:684 - This whole part can be FC'ed without dashing, which is not a great thing for a Salad, personally. What about adding one or two dashes here? I suggest adding them at 00:24:434 (1,2) - and 00:29:889 (3,1) - .
00:40:457 (2,1) - Distance here can be increased for a little bit, right now it is still reachable without dashing.
01:02:957 (1,2) - Shouldn't this part be mapped with note timeline like 00:54:775 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:58:866 (1,2,3,4) - ? It seems so inconsistent currently. - There is a clearer piano on the slider ends of 00:54:775 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:58:866 (1,2,3,4) - so that's why it's mapped differently
02:02:786 (7,1) - It is still able for players to catch without dashing. I think you should not bend 02:02:275 (4,5,6,7) - too outwards. Maybe move (6) to x:96 ; (7) to x:144 and (1) to x:320. - The song is easing out so I don't want any dashes here.. Reduced the curve on the notes though.

[ Platter]

Gameplay
00:00:570 (2,3) - Not so good in flow :d It is quite hard to lift off and jump to catch (3) actually. Please change the pattern here.
00:13:525 (3) - The slider velocity here is quite big, causing the slider here to be so horizontal in gameplay. Considering 00:12:502 (1,2,3) - the whole part, it is also easy for players to miss at 00:13:014 (2,3) - because they have to make a quick turn after dashing at (2,3), and the slider here is with 1.20x slider velocity, which is too big. To solve this, simply slant (3) to increase the slope.
00:14:889 (3) - ^
00:20:684 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This looks quite simple in gameplay. I would expect some more jumps here as a good finisher before the break. Try a pattern like this: Add dash at 00:21:195 (4,5) - and 00:21:536 (6,7) - , then a HDash at the end for 00:21:877 (8,9) - ; *Screenshot (for reference) - omg how many times have I explained this pattern now xD In the actual song, 00:22:048 - this beat right here, this bad boy, imo it doesn't support for a hyperdash. That's why I chose to use antiflow and due to the antiflow I don't want dashes cause that might be too hard. ok. imo nothing wrong with this pattern aaaaaa
00:42:502 (1,2) - It doesn't fit the audio here :thinking: It should be 1/3 beats in my opinion. - idk :s to me both 1/3 and 1/2 seems off so maybe it's just the vocal being off lol
00:48:639 (1,2,3,4,5) - Good pattern, yet I think dashes can be more focused. For instance, I think the dashes should be mainly at 00:49:661 (3,4) - and 00:50:002 (4,5) - , so I suggest removing the dash at 00:49:491 (2,3) - and only put dashes at the two parts I mentioned here. This also gives a better sense of rhythm, personally.
00:52:730 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
00:57:502 (2,3,4,5) - ^, maybe remove the dash at (2,3) and only focus on (3,4) and (4,5) for the dashing.
01:00:911 (1,2,3,4) - ^, remove the dash at 01:00:911 (1,2) - , it doesn't feel so necessary to emphasize (2) here from my perspective.
01:24:775 (1,2) - The distance here can be reduced I think. It seems not a good one to emphasize (2) here, it is not a main strong beat. Instead, the dash should be at 01:25:798 (2,1) - .
02:05:173 (4,5,6) - What about having double dashes here? I deem it plays nicely and acts as a great finisher. Try moving (5) to x:224. - aaa nooo, the piano is so so faint here :<

Good luck!

No reply means fixed. Thank you both for modding!

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Dilectus 2017-04-25T17:44:21+00:00

M4M from queue

General
the claps in the beginning are unecessary as there are no actual snares in the music at the time so it completly ruins the mood of the song (just makes it sound like a rap beat). it probably wouldve worked with a different hitsound, but i'd suggest just removing the claps overall. 01:54:775 - same here
01:22:048 - to 01:32:957 - maybe just replacing the snare to a soft clap with some reverb would make it sound much better.

Tyrell's Utopia
00:23:624 - snap back break to 00:23:837 -
00:45:570 (3) - x212? hdash seems out of place imo since the entire part consists of no hdashes
01:37:729 (1) - hdash cause it compliments this drum fill into the next part
01:42:502 (1,2) - this feels a bit awkward cause you sort of have to stop in the middle of the slider. a little bit more movement would compliment this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7920914

Platter
00:14:889 (3) - unsnapped
00:22:048 (9) - hdash?
00:51:536 (2) - x280 for consistent ds
01:07:161 (1) - unsnapped
01:09:320 (1) - ^

Salad
no complaints

Nelly's Cup
00:05:684 (1,2,3) - x420 for consistent ds (spacing seemed a bit low on 00:05:684 (1) - )
00:37:048 (2) - x262? (needs more emphasize)
01:02:956 (1) - missing whistle
01:03:979 (2) - ^

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hitsounds could've been more creative imo. but the kick snare patterns in the kiai's are really good though.
other than that it's a pretty good set. really love the sliders in every diff actually

good luck!

Tyrell

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-04-25T20:34:37+00:00

DavidEd wrote:
M4M from queue

General
the claps in the beginning are unecessary as there are no actual snares in the music at the time so it completly ruins the mood of the song (just makes it sound like a rap beat). it probably wouldve worked with a different hitsound, but i'd suggest just removing the claps overall. 01:54:775 - same here
01:22:048 - to 01:32:957 - maybe just replacing the snare to a soft clap with some reverb would make it sound much better. i let Benny handle the Hitsound concerns so whatever she changes i will too.

Tyrell's Utopia
00:23:624 - snap back break to 00:23:837 - okie
00:45:570 (3) - x212? hdash seems out of place imo since the entire part consists of no hdashes it's the ending of the section and it's emphasized musically so a hyper here fits well.
01:37:729 (1) - hdash cause it compliments this drum fill into the next part adding a HDash here is problematic with the design i had and would cause problems with the flow being smooth. Also i dont feel a hyper is necessary here. a dash works fine
01:42:502 (1,2) - this feels a bit awkward cause you sort of have to stop in the middle of the slider. a little bit more movement would compliment this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7920914 i very much like this slider and think it adds great variety, having the funky shape is intended. i never stop on this slider, i do a wiggle as that's the intended gameplay as well.

hitsounds could've been more creative imo. but the kick snare patterns in the kiai's are really good though.
other than that it's a pretty good set. really love the sliders in every diff actually

good luck!

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-04-25T23:26:34+00:00

00:20:684 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I've explained this whole pattern a lot of times now, in the actual song, 00:22:048 - this beat right here, doesn't support for a hyperdash. That's why I chose to use antiflow and due to the antiflow I don't want dashes cause that might be too hard.

As for the hitsounds, they don't have to be the same as the song itself? I think the claps give a nice touch to the music so I'll keep them if you don't mind :p

rest was fixed! Thanks for the mod!

Kimitakari

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Kimitakari 2017-04-28T16:42:20+00:00

Fixed DavidEd's mod

:d

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 92616
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2

[Metadata]
Title:Utopiosphere -Platonism-
TitleUnicode:Utopiosphere -Platonism-
Artist:Mili
ArtistUnicode:Mili
Creator:Benny-
Version:Nelly's Cup
Source:Deemo
Tags:Nelly Tyrell Benny BennyBananas Miracle Milk rayark projectmili
BeatmapID:1113463
BeatmapSetID:522132

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:2
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ApproachRate:5.5
SliderMultiplier:0.9
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
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-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

-Sh1n1- 2017-05-16T19:43:24+00:00

Nelly's Cup

Check your unsnapped objects on AiMod please. (blame benny xd)
00:00:230 (1,2) - lots of things to talk around these objects:
1.- The current movement is "spicy" for newcomers imo, remenber that newbies don't have enough reaction to catch a zig-zag movement
2.- 00:00:230 (1) - should be to the left side of 00:00:570 (2) -, this is not a rule but I always recommend (at least for lower diffs), to put the first note near to the centre, one more time this is to make the first try of a newcomer more enjoyable.
00:07:048 (1,2,1) - 00:26:139 (1,1) - 00:31:593 (1,1) - same as above about the movements, 5 zig-zags for newbies is too complicated imo, try to use the whole mapping area.
00:08:070 (2,1) - try to be more constant with distances, shouldn't be it same as 00:01:934 (2,1) -?
why if 00:11:139 - is a strong sound 00:10:116 (2,3) - have more distance? as an advice for your future maps, I recommend you to work with distances, at least 3 distances, normal transitions that should be around 1.00x, high pitches around 1.30x and strong cymbals sounds around 1.60x just to mark the difference on each sound.
00:12:502 (3,1) - one more time, distances are the main problem on this diff, do you think that the sound of 00:12:161 - is stronger than 00:13:866 -? so why 00:11:139 (1,2) - have more distance than 00:12:502 (3,1) -?
00:15:230 - I imagine that you are enphasizing vocal to use 1.30x between 00:13:866 (1,2) -, right? if I'm not wrong, you should keep consistency with 00:17:957 (2,1) - to follow vocal too.
00:32:957 (1,2,1) - why distances are too different compared to 00:27:502 (1,2,1) - is structure is basically the same, consistency please.
00:37:048 (2,1) - they looks like stacked, I recommend you to put 00:38:411 (1) - on the left side.
00:42:502 (2) - what are you following here, vocal right? mmm I suggest you to follow intruments here cause they are prominent than vocal, so finish 00:42:502 (2) - at 00:42:843 -, maybe you are asking you, if this is for my preference only, and I wanna tell you that nope, it's kinda weird to follow vocal here, while 00:43:866 (1) - follows intruments, cause vocal finish at 00:45:059 - and the current pattern between 00:43:866 (1,2) - is perfectly fine.
00:50:683 - why the change of velocity? that's why 00:50:684 (1,2,1,2) - looks too close, if you want to keep your change of velocity, increase the distances in something similar as you were doing on 00:46:593 (1,2,1,2) -
00:54:775 (1,2) - make this distance around 1.00x cause vocal pitch on 00:55:797 - is similar as 00:57:843 -, so I think that the whole pattern will look much better if they keep consistency.
00:57:843 (2,1) - they looks like too close, I suggest you to add curve on 00:56:820 (1) - keeping the same distance with 00:57:843 (2) -, it will create more distance between 00:57:843 (2,1) -, no more than 1.20x pls.
01:06:025 (4,1) - it's not a bad idea but, can they be more to the centre? I mean, after 01:06:024 - there is a break of three 1/1, so as an instinct, we normally return to the centre to wait for the next fruit, so if 01:07:048 (1) - is too far of the centre, it could need the dash button to catch it, and you know that this is unrankable on cup diffs, you could slant 01:05:002 (3) - a bit more to the right just to readjust some distances and move 01:07:048 (1) - a bit to the right, another solution is keep your current pattern on 01:05:002 (3,4) - but 01:07:048 (1) - should be to the right side to avoid the mentioned problem.
01:19:320 (1,2) - controversial movement, if you can avoid such antiflow movement I'll be more than happy, just to avoid unnecessary DQs in future, you know how is the ranking process nowadays uwu.
01:38:070 (3,1,2) - why did you reduced your distances? tbh I like how 1.00x works, cause 1.20x looks like too fast for newbies, if you can reduce some distances like: 01:32:957 (1,2,1,2) - keeping 1.20 only at important sounds like 01:38:410 - 01:43:865 - 01:49:319 -.

In general a good diff, sorry if my mod looks like a wall of text, this is cause I want to unify your distances to show an ordered map

TBC

Last edited by -Sh1n1- 2017-06-12T23:15:39+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kimitakari

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Kimitakari 2017-05-18T16:32:23+00:00

I accepted everything from -Sh1ni- thank you so much. While the distances cound be a problem for me I reduced an anti-flow parts to 0 and made my diff even simpler than before. I'm still a newble scrub at mapping, don't forget. Once again, thank you very much!

Nelly's Cup

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-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

-Sh1n1- 2017-06-12T23:17:05+00:00

General

What I want from you guys, try to be consistent from 01:11:138 - to 01:30:228 -, decide, what you want to follow, also keep in mind that the sound of 01:11:819 - shouldn't be ignored, for me is the main problem of the map and I won't nominate it unless this part is propertly fixed. (rain and platter)

Salad

Check you unsnapped objects.
00:00:230 (1,2) - talking about structure, press ctrl+g, I mean slider should be first and then note, it's kinda weird that you are skipping 00:00:570 - that is an important sound, if you think that 00:00:400 - is important too, you could change such 1/1 slider into 1/2 and add reverse, gap between salad an platter will be still fine cause you have a break on 00:01:082 -, it's up to you.
00:05:684 (1,2) - yeah, we have the same case here.
Patterns at Kiai between Salad and Cup are very similar

Platter

00:10:457 (3,1) - add hyperdash, try rotating 00:10:457 (3) - and putting the head of 00:11:139 (1) - a bit to the left, it's possible cause I did on editor using 2.01x of distance, is the beginning of a new section, also is KIAI, so need more enphasis imo.
00:22:048 (9,1) - keep in mind that when you normally have a break, for instinct you goes to the center, so it's recommendable to keep the first note after break or at the beginning near to the centre.
00:24:775 (2,3) - such antiflow is kinda weird, I hope you will fix it with my previous advice.
00:37:389 (2) - should finish at 00:38:241 - imo, the piano sound of 00:38:411 - deserve a note with movement/little jump (up to you), also why is offscreen? haha it doesn't matter but it makes me laugh haha, move a bit down, it won't kill you, you know how is people nowadays, just trying to find the first mistake to ask for DQ
aren't you using 1.50x of distance to enphasize the sound of 00:41:480 -? take a look to 00:35:684 (1,2) - and 00:37:048 (1,2) - 00:43:866 (1,2) - as a reference, so increase the distance between 00:41:139 (1,2) - pls
00:51:706 (3,4) - vs 00:47:615 (3,4) - increase or decrease, up to you, but keep consistency.
01:01:933 (2,3,4,1) - why if 01:02:956 - is stronger than the rest, you are using the same distance there? two options: 01:01:933 (2,3,4) - move to the left, decrease distance of 01:01:933 (2,3) - around -0.30x/-0.20x.
01:06:024 (2,3,4,1) - same here, increase gradually the distance between each object to follow the instruments propertly, for me 01:07:047 - is more important than bells on 01:06:365 - and 01:06:706 -, and if you don't think so, I wanna ask you, what happens at 01:05:683 -? :p
from 01:11:138 - to 01:30:228 - you have the same problem as Rain, the intrument at 01:11:819 - is strong enough to be enphasized with a little jump as you did on 01:12:502 (1,2) -.
01:31:593 (1) - nope, too short to be a spinner, change it into slider please or remove 01:32:616 (1) - and finish your spinner at 01:32:615 - for consistency with salad.
01:32:616 (1,1) - hyperdash pls.
01:32:957 (1,2) - doesn't need 1.17x of distance, a normal transition like 01:33:468 (2,3) - will be better, 1.00x is a good option too, but the last decision is yours.
01:34:832 (2,3) - reduce this distance, the current movement is kinda hard for a platter diff, cause the transition between 01:34:832 (2,3) - is too linear, around 1.00x could be ok as u did on 01:47:104 (2,3) -.
01:38:411 (1,2) - reduce this distance a bit, try adding more curve to 01:38:411 (1) -, kinda weird that 01:39:774 - is stronger than 01:38:922 - but you added more distance between 01:38:411 (1,2) -.
01:53:411 (1,2) - reduce it a tiny bit, around 1.30x is better, the current jump is unconfortable.

orz, don't change the sv randomly, is hard to compare the distances uwu.

Tyrell's Utopia

00:20:002 - this break annoys me because the sound of 00:19:832 - is the same of 00:18:468 - and you enphasized it with hyper dash, that's why I think that you should finish 00:19:320 (1) - at 00:19:661 -, remove 00:20:173 (2) - and add a new slider from 00:19:832 - to 00:20:173 -.
00:21:707 - this piano sound is strong enough to be enphasized with hyperdash imo.
00:23:411 - why did shortenned the break? was it on purpose? cause only your diff have this issue.
00:38:411 - should be enphasized with a movement, I mean your slider should finish at 00:38:241 - and then a note at 00:38:411 - will follow the intruments better, take a look 00:42:843 (3,1) - as a "reference"
00:44:207 (2) - same as above.
I really like how did you created your sliders, but at 01:09:093 (1,2) - the antiflow doesn't follow the melody propertly and looks kinda weird at game, just this one, I won't bother you again with similar things.
01:11:138 (1) - I'll take this as an example because the sound of 01:11:819 - deserve a movement/little jump, as you did on 01:13:866 (1,2) -, I can imagine that you are following vocal, but the sound of 01:11:819 - is strong enough to avoid skipping them, I don't want to change your current style, it's not my intention, only as an advice, I recommend you to finish 01:11:138 (1) - at 01:11:649 - and then add a note on 01:11:819 -, It will be easy to fix.
01:12:502 (3) - 01:15:230 (3) - 01:16:593 (1) - 01:22:048 (1) - etc...
01:41:139 (1) - finish it at 01:41:649 -, add a note on 01:41:819 -, 01:41:819 - deserve a jump.
01:42:502 (1) - why slider? piano is prominent at 01:42:501 - 01:42:842 - and 01:43:183 -, so you can change 01:42:502 (1,2) - into three 1/2 sliders.
02:04:320 (1,2) - reduce the distance, why if 02:05:001 - is stronger than 02:04:831 -, 02:04:320 (1,2) - have more distance?

That's all, I really like this diff, I don't want to be picky on distances cause I respect your style, good job bro.

kds to this post pls, also I prefer to do irc on salad wih benny, cause I have some doubs, I'll poke you after my classes.

Tyrell

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-06-13T00:25:23+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:

General

What I want from you guys, try to be consistent from 01:11:138 - to 01:30:228 -, decide, what you want to follow, also keep in mind that the sound of 01:11:819 - shouldn't be ignored, for me is the main problem of the map and I won't nominate it unless this part is propertly fixed. (rain and platter) The sound you timestamped is properly covered by slider tails in both the Rain and Platter so i dont understand what you mean with your statement. If you would like it mapped differently, can you explain how? Also regarding consistency, i mapped my rain to follow the vocals as well as the musical emphasis that occurs from time to time. if there is any inconsistency, it is to add variation and even then it follows the music so i see nothing wrong with it.

Tyrell's Utopia

00:20:002 - this break annoys me because the sound of 00:19:832 - is the same of 00:18:468 - and you enphasized it with hyper dash, that's why I think that you should finish 00:19:320 (1) - at 00:19:661 -, remove 00:20:173 (2) - and add a new slider from 00:19:832 - to 00:20:173 -. I think these sounds should be mapped differently because the first sound you linked is different lyrically and follows a different pronunciation opposed to the one in question. i mapped the sound in question with a slider tail because it is the end of a vocal line rather than the beginning and mapping it as a beginning would mess up the flow and consistency of the patterns following it. i dont think this is a good change
00:21:707 - this piano sound is strong enough to be enphasized with hyperdash imo. sounds good.
00:23:411 - why did shortenned the break? was it on purpose? cause only your diff have this issue. this was not intentional, idk why it is like that. if i knew how to fix the break length, i would.
00:38:411 - should be enphasized with a movement, I mean your slider should finish at 00:38:241 - and then a note at 00:38:411 - will follow the intruments better, take a look 00:42:843 (3,1) - as a "reference" i think the way i mapped it suits better and follows the flow of the song better. Only reason i mapped it differently on the part you referenced is the vocal lines call for it to be mapped that way so it makes more sense to have the 1/4 jump there. without the vocals, seems a bit weird.
00:44:207 (2) - same as above. this was mapped differently purely to give more variation and emphasis to the ending of that section.
i think it fits well and plays better than mapping it similar to previous patterns.
I really like how did you created your sliders, but at 01:09:093 (1,2) - the antiflow doesn't follow the melody propertly and looks kinda weird at game, just this one, I won't bother you again with similar things. i think this fits the pattern quite well but i did reduce the distance here for leniency
01:11:138 (1) - I'll take this as an example because the sound of 01:11:819 - deserve a movement/little jump, as you did on 01:13:866 (1,2) -, I can imagine that you are following vocal, but the sound of 01:11:819 - is strong enough to avoid skipping them, I don't want to change your current style, it's not my intention, only as an advice, I recommend you to finish 01:11:138 (1) - at 01:11:649 - and then add a note on 01:11:819 -, It will be easy to fix. although your suggestion could work, i would rather keep it as is since it is following the vocal and remains consistent with other sections as well. the emphasized sting is mapped as a slider tail of similar strength to that of the slider head so i think it's fine.
01:12:502 (3) - 01:15:230 (3) - 01:16:593 (1) - 01:22:048 (1) - etc... similar reasoning to previous statement. technically it is mapped fine and i think it fits the style of the map better so no changes.
01:41:139 (1) - finish it at 01:41:649 -, add a note on 01:41:819 -, 01:41:819 - deserve a jump. slider head and tail here of equal importance so the sound is properly covered and i think this pattern fits the part well so no change
01:42:502 (1) - why slider? piano is prominent at 01:42:501 - 01:42:842 - and 01:43:183 -, so you can change 01:42:502 (1,2) - into three 1/2 sliders. makes way more sense to follow the vocals here as it's the main instrument of the song and the patterning should mainly stick to it.
02:04:320 (1,2) - reduce the distance, why if 02:05:001 - is stronger than 02:04:831 -, 02:04:320 (1,2) - have more distance? im confused here. i gave slightly larger distance to the higher pitched sound here. ;w;

That's all, I really like this diff, I don't want to be picky on distances cause I respect your style, good job bro. thank you. c:

kds to this post pls, also I prefer to do irc on salad wih benny, cause I have some doubs, I'll poke you after my classes.

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-06-13T00:26:51+00:00

-Sh1n1- wrote:

General
What I want from you guys, try to be consistent from 01:11:138 - to 01:30:228 -, decide, what you want to follow, also keep in mind that the sound of 01:11:819 - shouldn't be ignored, for me is the main problem of the map and I won't nominate it unless this part is propertly fixed. (rain and platter) - Discussed this with Tyrell and we both seemed to agree on the way we mapped this part, to me it isn't inconsistent it just follows mainly vocal but also drums where the music suggest so. I explained it better in the specific example you pointed out in Platter.

Salad
Check you unsnapped objects.
00:00:230 (1,2) - talking about structure, press ctrl+g, I mean slider should be first and then note, it's kinda weird that you are skipping 00:00:570 - that is an important sound, if you think that 00:00:400 - is important too, you could change such 1/1 slider into 1/2 and add reverse, gap between salad an platter will be still fine cause you have a break on 00:01:082 -, it's up to you. - I'm not focusing on the background piano and I don't wanna make the intro too dense... It's already a lot more dense than kiai so I wanna try keeping it as it is if it's okay with you
00:05:684 (1,2) - yeah, we have the same case here. - Same answer as above
Patterns at Kiai between Salad and Cup are very similar - Yeah, well I mapped this Salad before Cup got added to the spread but I tried adding a few 1/1 sliders where it fit to the vocals to upper the density a bit at least but if you have any suggestions, hit me up! But I guess this is what you wanna irc about

Platter
00:10:457 (3,1) - add hyperdash, try rotating 00:10:457 (3) - and putting the head of 00:11:139 (1) - a bit to the left, it's possible cause I did on editor using 2.01x of distance, is the beginning of a new section, also is KIAI, so need more enphasis imo. - okay, although I'm not a very big fan of hypers going all across screen
00:22:048 (9,1) - keep in mind that when you normally have a break, for instinct you goes to the center, so it's recommendable to keep the first note after break or at the beginning near to the centre. - well sure but I also think that since the last note ended on left and the first note started on left that it was fine but fixed either way
00:24:775 (2,3) - such antiflow is kinda weird, I hope you will fix it with my previous advice. - yeah I guess it was fixed with the point above lol
00:37:389 (2) - should finish at 00:38:241 - imo, the piano sound of 00:38:411 - deserve a note with movement/little jump (up to you), also why is offscreen? haha it doesn't matter but it makes me laugh haha, move a bit down, it won't kill you, you know how is people nowadays, just trying to find the first mistake to ask for DQ - hahahahaha no one would DQ because of that LOL, anyhow, I don't hear any beat on the red tick and mapping inaudible sounds is very meh, even if it's to add a dash or whatever. Even so, the pitch is pretty low on the piano here where it's high pitched on the next note which is a slider so I think it's okay. Moved it a bit down though to avoid DQ over a slider outside of the playfield :^) I'm just sloppy with sliders ok sorry
aren't you using 1.50x of distance to enphasize the sound of 00:41:480 -? take a look to 00:35:684 (1,2) - and 00:37:048 (1,2) - 00:43:866 (1,2) - as a reference, so increase the distance between 00:41:139 (1,2) - pls - Was mainly because the others didn't have pretty strong vocals on the downbeat but this one did so I tried some variation. Anyway, increased the distance
00:51:706 (3,4) - vs 00:47:615 (3,4) - increase or decrease, up to you, but keep consistency. - Decreased
01:01:933 (2,3,4,1) - why if 01:02:956 - is stronger than the rest, you are using the same distance there? two options: 01:01:933 (2,3,4) - move to the left, decrease distance of 01:01:933 (2,3) - around -0.30x/-0.20x.- Fixed
01:06:024 (2,3,4,1) - same here, increase gradually the distance between each object to follow the instruments propertly, for me 01:07:047 - is more important than bells on 01:06:365 - and 01:06:706 -, and if you don't think so, I wanna ask you, what happens at 01:05:683 -? :p - Fixed
from 01:11:138 - to 01:30:228 - you have the same problem as Rain, the intrument at 01:11:819 - is strong enough to be enphasized with a little jump as you did on 01:12:502 (1,2) -.- ah, the difference between 01:11:138 (2) - and 01:12:502 (1,2) - is that on the first one, the vocal is holding but on the second one the there's a vocal on the red tick. And as I explained before, I don't like putting sliders on inaudible beats just to get a dash so I would like to keep it as it is if it's possible
01:31:593 (1) - nope, too short to be a spinner, change it into slider please or remove 01:32:616 (1) - and finish your spinner at 01:32:615 - for consistency with salad. - ok ):
01:32:616 (1,1) - hyperdash pls.- yes
01:32:957 (1,2) - doesn't need 1.17x of distance, a normal transition like 01:33:468 (2,3) - will be better, 1.00x is a good option too, but the last decision is yours. - 1.00x distance
01:34:832 (2,3) - reduce this distance, the current movement is kinda hard for a platter diff, cause the transition between 01:34:832 (2,3) - is too linear, around 1.00x could be ok as u did on 01:47:104 (2,3) -. - 1.00x distance
01:38:411 (1,2) - reduce this distance a bit, try adding more curve to 01:38:411 (1) -, kinda weird that 01:39:774 - is stronger than 01:38:922 - but you added more distance between 01:38:411 (1,2) -. - 1.00x distance
01:53:411 (1,2) - reduce it a tiny bit, around 1.30x is better, the current jump is unconfortable. - yes

orz, don't change the sv randomly, is hard to compare the distances uwu. - but they are needed or else the sliders are all over the map uwu count grids instead XDDDD

kds to this post pls, also I prefer to do irc on salad wih benny, cause I have some doubs, I'll poke you after my classes.

Thanks! All diffs updated!

F D Flourite

811 posts

Joined March 2013

F D Flourite 2017-07-12T15:02:31+00:00

what happened lol

-Sh1n1-

3,402 posts

Joined September 2012

-Sh1n1- 2017-07-13T03:26:55+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
what happened lol

Nothing, I tried to avoid being picky on the last diff but... I told benny what I think, that's why I modded Akikaze no answer instead of this, if you wanna check this map, go ahead.

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2017-08-25T21:45:50+00:00

2017-08-25 16:57 Ascendance: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1109454 Mili - Utopiosphere -Platonism- [Salad]]
2017-08-25 16:57 Ascendance: wowee
2017-08-25 16:57 Benny-: hahae
2017-08-25 16:57 Benny-: kidding
2017-08-25 16:57 Ascendance: are these supposed to be dashes 00:05:514 (5,1) -  lol
2017-08-25 16:58 Benny-: no idea
2017-08-25 16:58 Benny-: :D
2017-08-25 16:58 Ascendance: :D
2017-08-25 16:59 Ascendance: well
2017-08-25 16:59 Ascendance: tbh in this early section where it's quiet
2017-08-25 16:59 Benny-: I guess no?
2017-08-25 16:59 Ascendance: they shouldnt be dashes anyway so
2017-08-25 16:59 Ascendance: id probably reduce these a bit
2017-08-25 16:59 Benny-: yeah
2017-08-25 16:59 Ascendance: like 00:01:423 (5,1) - 
2017-08-25 17:00 Ascendance: 00:02:786 (3,1) - etc
2017-08-25 17:00 Ascendance: if you want me to wait for you to do that i can
2017-08-25 17:01 Benny-: fuck no im fast
2017-08-25 17:01 Benny-: done
2017-08-25 17:02 Ascendance: 00:13:866 (1) - i hate this slidershape, it doesnt play too nice
2017-08-25 17:02 Ascendance: maybe make it similar to 00:12:502 (3) - 
2017-08-25 17:03 Benny-: oko
2017-08-25 17:03 Ascendance: 00:15:230 (2,1) - maybe no dash here? 
2017-08-25 17:05 Benny-: uh
2017-08-25 17:06 Benny-: i removed dash 00:13:866 (1,2) - instead i feel since the music is stronger 00:16:593 (1) -
2017-08-25 17:07 Ascendance: kk
2017-08-25 17:07 Ascendance: not sure im a fan of 00:17:957 (3,4) - 
2017-08-25 17:07 Ascendance: 00:17:957 (3) - points to the right and 4 creates antiflow where it isn't really needed
2017-08-25 17:09 Benny-: okay what u suggest
2017-08-25 17:10 Benny-: i do
2017-08-25 17:10 Benny-: here
2017-08-25 17:10 Ascendance: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8934865
2017-08-25 17:12 Benny-: okay
2017-08-25 17:12 Ascendance: 00:41:139 (1,2) - kinda squished together
2017-08-25 17:14 Benny-: ok fixed
2017-08-25 17:14 Ascendance: 00:42:843 (1) - slidershape is ?
2017-08-25 17:14 Benny-: beautiful
2017-08-25 17:14 Benny-: it's art
2017-08-25 17:14 Ascendance: interesting
2017-08-25 17:14 Ascendance: LOL
2017-08-25 17:14 Ascendance: can you at least ifx the bottom half so there's movement
2017-08-25 17:15 Benny-: are you questioning my art
2017-08-25 17:15 Ascendance: si
2017-08-25 17:15 Benny-: it's a reverse question mark
2017-08-25 17:15 Benny-: ohgod now i wanna make a question mark
2017-08-25 17:16 Ascendance: oh god please no
2017-08-25 17:17 Benny-: okay made it more ugly
2017-08-25 17:17 Benny-: it looks like a 5 now
2017-08-25 17:17 Benny-: literally
2017-08-25 17:18 Ascendance: is there a reason it's nc'd btw
2017-08-25 17:19 Benny-: yes
2017-08-25 17:20 Ascendance: y
2017-08-25 17:20 Benny-: all the sliders hold a whole measure
2017-08-25 17:20 Benny-: almost
2017-08-25 17:20 Ascendance: o ok
2017-08-25 17:20 Ascendance: 00:48:298 (3,1) - only one in this section that's close to a dash, reduce reduce
2017-08-25 17:21 Benny-: ok
2017-08-25 17:22 Ascendance: 00:52:048 (2) - x370 would be nice to make it not so squished
2017-08-25 17:25 Benny-: almost but not quite
2017-08-25 17:25 Benny-: moved the slider end a bit futher away as well as moving that note tiny bit to the right
2017-08-25 17:26 Ascendance: 01:02:275 (3,1) - a dash between these would be naisu
2017-08-25 17:26 Benny-: how do you like my hitsounds
2017-08-25 17:26 Benny-: you love them right
2017-08-25 17:26 Benny-: yeah ik they are nice
2017-08-25 17:26 Ascendance: they are o k
2017-08-25 17:27 Benny-: better than yours
2017-08-25 17:27 Benny-: but done
2017-08-25 17:27 Ascendance: T_T
2017-08-25 17:28 Ascendance: 01:37:048 (3,1) - seems like you wanted it to be a dash but its walkable
2017-08-25 17:29 Benny-: ok now they are not
2017-08-25 17:29 Benny-: walkable
2017-08-25 17:29 Ascendance: 01:40:798 (4,1) - seems like it shouldn't be a dash but it is
2017-08-25 17:31 Benny-: i think it fits ):
2017-08-25 17:31 Ascendance: g
2017-08-25 17:32 Ascendance: ok no more salad
2017-08-25 17:32 Ascendance: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1108911 Mili - Utopiosphere -Platonism- [Platter]]
2017-08-25 17:32 Benny-: okay
2017-08-25 17:32 Ascendance: 00:00:230 (1,2) - not sure a wiggle is the best way to start off a platter
2017-08-25 17:32 Ascendance: you could probably exchange it for another pattern and use the wiggle later on 
2017-08-25 17:33 Benny-: thats not even a wiggle u can stand in the middle
2017-08-25 17:33 Benny-: reeeee
2017-08-25 17:33 Benny-: :(
2017-08-25 17:33 Ascendance: a noob wouldnt know that tho
2017-08-25 17:33 Benny-: im kidding
2017-08-25 17:33 Ascendance: :')
2017-08-25 17:33 Benny-: changed it
2017-08-25 17:34 Ascendance: 00:07:389 (2) - could use some more right tilt
2017-08-25 17:34 Benny-: ok
2017-08-25 17:35 Ascendance: 00:35:002 (3,4) - could be a nice dash, if you wanna increase the distanc ee
2017-08-25 17:36 Benny-: i already play it as a dash
2017-08-25 17:36 Benny-: :thinking:
2017-08-25 17:36 Ascendance: i walked it
2017-08-25 17:36 Ascendance: but i meant more like
2017-08-25 17:36 Benny-: i know
2017-08-25 17:36 Ascendance: its similar distance to the others so increasing it would be a nicer indicator of stronger sounds
2017-08-25 17:36 Benny-: what you mean
2017-08-25 17:37 Benny-: i just dont wanna overdo the distance in a calm part
2017-08-25 17:37 Ascendance: like maybe 4 -> x355
2017-08-25 17:38 Benny-: lol most people want to remove that pattern
2017-08-25 17:38 Benny-: and you wanna increase it xD
2017-08-25 17:39 Benny-: that is like, what literally everyone point out
2017-08-25 17:39 Ascendance: i'mcooler
2017-08-25 17:39 Benny-: "remove dashes here"
2017-08-25 17:39 Benny-: so i think i'll keep it as it is :S
2017-08-25 17:39 Ascendance: :(
2017-08-25 17:39 Benny-: i think i increased it a tiny bit though
2017-08-25 17:39 Ascendance: 00:36:025 (2,3,1) - similar issue as salad, feels a bit too crunched together
2017-08-25 17:40 Benny-: but not much
2017-08-25 17:40 Ascendance: 00:37:048 (1) - could maybe use some emphasis as well if you wanted
2017-08-25 17:41 Benny-: okay
2017-08-25 17:41 Ascendance: 00:42:332 (4,1) - strong sound on 1 but only a walk ooooooo
2017-08-25 17:43 Benny-: fixed
2017-08-25 17:43 Ascendance: 01:15:229 (1) - ugly slider shape T_T
2017-08-25 17:43 Ascendance: a normal C-cuve woulda been betterrrrr
2017-08-25 17:43 Benny-: no it's beautiful
2017-08-25 17:44 Benny-: no but problem here is like
2017-08-25 17:44 Benny-: if i fuck up one distance i have to redo all after lool
2017-08-25 17:44 Ascendance: well
2017-08-25 17:44 Ascendance: rest is fine for me

Sorceress

332 posts

Joined September 2012

Sorceress 2017-09-03T04:39:23+00:00

Hey, here with another mod for you in my quest to be active

[

General]

Background: It's a bit low res and looks a little blurry so I've gone ahead and done a favourite new trick of mine. I've upscaled it with waifu2x and then used Photoshop to quickly sharpen it a little and resized to 1920x1080. So here it is. There's a tiny warp in the aspect ratio from upscaling and then downscaling a tad but I think there's a noticeable increase in the overall quality, especially when looking at the character outlines.

[

Nelly's Cup]
Apologies for the nazi distance mod!

00:07:389 (1) - There's a huge lack of distance to this where you have previously used around 1.80x ds. I'd try make this slider start around x:192, a C shaped slider should work well.
You'll want to make sure to increase the distance to 00:08:752 (1) - as well to roughly the same amount
I've noticed this Kiai section feels very by the right edge of the playfield so before applying any of the suggestions below I'd highly recommend to make some more room. Select all of 00:00:230 (1,2,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,3) - and move it a little left to x:128. All these suggestions below are for the Kiai and follow on from one another
1. 00:11:139 (1) - Really needs more distance to this as this is a very strong sound starting off this Kiai section. Try moving this to x:352
2. 00:12:502 (2) - Move this to x:208 to bring it back closer to 00:11:139 (1) -
3. 00:13:866 (1) - This could do with more emphasis, try x:368
4. 00:15:230 (2) - I'd move this to x:224 and make it a C shaped slider so it curves out to the left and ends in the same position it starts
5. 00:16:593 (1,2) - There's very little movement between these two sliders and during them as they are not tilted very much. I'd suggest to Ctrl+H on 00:16:593 (1) - and move it to x:384 and then make it a tiny bit more horizontal. After that if you move 00:17:957 (2) - to x:240 and make it quite a bit more horizontal. This contrasts the higher pitch vocal of 00:17:957 (2) - against the lower pitch vocal of 00:16:593 (1) -
6. 00:19:320 (1) - Adjust the head of this slider to start at x:384 and tweak the curve so it still ends in roughly the same place
00:41:139 (1) - I think this sound would benefit from more emphasis here, try get the distance to this to around 2.19x ds
00:43:866 (1,2,3) - I feel like 00:43:866 (1,2) - deserves a greater distance than 00:44:207 (2,3) - because of the rising pitch at the start of this compared to the falling at the end. Try moving 00:43:866 (1) - to x:240 and 00:45:570 (3) - to x:272. If you had to move these from applying the above point then just try get the distance of 00:43:866 (1,2) - to about 1.96x ds and the distance of 00:44:207 (2,3) - to 1.40x ds
00:47:957 (2,1) - I'd recommend to increase the distance to 00:48:639 (1) - here, it's currently almost the same as the distance between 00:46:593 (1,2) - and I think it deserves more emphasis, same goes for 00:50:003 (2,1) - and 00:52:047 (2,1) -
01:16:593 (1) - Maybe add an anchor point to this slider to curve it a little to make the movement a bit more comfortable
01:22:048 (1) - I'd emphasise this a little more, try moving to x:304
01:24:774 (1) - Same here, try x:192
01:26:138 (2) - Could also make this a little more comfortable by adding a slight curve, same with 01:28:866 (3) - and 01:41:139 (1) -
01:46:592 (1) - I'd move the repeating anchor on this slider one grid to the left just to add a little more contrast with 01:45:230 (2) -

[

Salad]

It could well be worth using tickrate 1 here, there's a few jumps in to some uncomfortable sliders used throughout this difficulty that would be more forgiving to players at this level on tickrate 1 compared to 2
My main concern looking at this difficulty is I'm really not sure where the dashes are supposed to be. There's a lot of distances that are very comfortably walked. All of 00:30:230 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - up until the dash at 00:41:139 (1) - is very easy to do without dashing and then it continues on for all of 00:41:480 (2,1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - until 00:54:775 (1) -
Now it could be those are the only two dashes you intended to have here but then I feel like there's missed dash opportunities like to 00:48:638 (1) - 00:50:684 (1) - and 00:52:729 (1) -
Distances like 01:02:275 (3,1) - feel weak, it's not gonna be easy for a player at this level to walk it but it's still not a great movement. It's notes like these that I feel would benefit from a larger distance and a more comfortable slider shape
Maybe I'm just being silly here but I'd recommend going through this difficulty and more clearly defining dash distances, really sorry for being so vague
00:16:593 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This section feels very repetitive to play, 00:17:957 (3,4) - is incredibly similar to 00:16:593 (1,2) - that comes right before it but is just further to the right in the playfield. I think if you made 00:16:593 (1) - and 00:17:957 (3) - repeaters you could avoid this repetitiveness of dashing left in to a slider, following it and walking to the right until another dash and doing the same thing again about four times in a row
00:20:684 (3,4) - I don't feel like a direction change to 00:22:048 (4) - fits too well. I'd recommend adjusting the curve of 00:20:684 (3) - so it ends a bit more to the left of the playfield and then flipping 00:22:048 (4) -
01:09:093 (1) - I'd split this, end it at 01:09:774 - and then add a note on 01:10:115 - with a dash to it as it's quite a strong note
01:30:911 (2) - That's a really loud clap! Or at least it sounds loud considering the context of it, maybe reduce the HS volume here? Same would go for all diffs

[

Platter]

00:05:684 (1,2) - This is being quite picky but compared to the overall distancing and SV used in this intro the SV on these fully horizontal (or close enough to it) sliders feels a bit high. I'd recommend to tilt these a little more, same for 00:09:775 (1,2) -
00:21:366 (5,6,7,8) - Maybe move 00:21:536 (6,7) - a bit further to the left to contrast the louder piano sounds with the quiter ones at 00:20:684 (1,2,3,4) -
01:54:774 - Distancing in this outro feels a bit ambiguous. The intro consistently uses about 2.0x ds dashes whereas this outro uses a few different ds values such as 1.51x at 02:00:229 (1) - which feels rather ambiguous. For the distances around 1.50x ds I'd recommend either nerfing them to about 1.40x ds if they're intended to be walks or buffing to at least 1.80x ds if they're intended to be dashes

[

Tyrell's Utopia]

00:15:911 (1,2,3,4) - I'd increase the spacing between these a little bit. The distance is a little low at the moment causing for a slightly awkward movement when slowing the catcher down whilst still moving in the same direction
00:53:582 (2,3,4,5) - I could be crazy but the distance between these feels lower than what you've used previously when compared to 00:49:491 (2,3,4,5) -
01:21:707 (7,8) - Nazi distance man strikes again. Any reason for the ever so slightly lower distancing to these compared to the rest of the pattern? Would be nice to bring them in line with the rest
01:47:957 (1,2,3,4) - This feels really uncalled for to me, I'd really recommend to rework this pattern and remove the hypers to 01:48:298 (2) - and 01:48:980 (4) -

Hope this helps!

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-09-03T20:42:40+00:00

Sorcerer wrote:
Hey, here with another mod for you in my quest to be active

[ General]
Background: It's a bit low res and looks a little blurry so I've gone ahead and done a favourite new trick of mine. I've upscaled it with waifu2x and then used Photoshop to quickly sharpen it a little and resized to 1920x1080. So here it is. There's a tiny warp in the aspect ratio from upscaling and then downscaling a tad but I think there's a noticeable increase in the overall quality, especially when looking at the character outlines. nice cool thanks
[ Salad]
It could well be worth using tickrate 1 here, there's a few jumps in to some uncomfortable sliders used throughout this difficulty that would be more forgiving to players at this level on tickrate 1 compared to 2 well then, made it tickrate 1
My main concern looking at this difficulty is I'm really not sure where the dashes are supposed to be. There's a lot of distances that are very comfortably walked. All of 00:30:230 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - up until the dash at 00:41:139 (1) - is very easy to do without dashing and then it continues on for all of 00:41:480 (2,1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - until 00:54:775 (1) -
Now it could be those are the only two dashes you intended to have here but then I feel like there's missed dash opportunities like to 00:48:638 (1) - 00:50:684 (1) - and 00:52:729 (1) - was actually intended cause i felt that was the most intense of a very calm part but I tried adding some dashes as well
Distances like 01:02:275 (3,1) - feel weak, it's not gonna be easy for a player at this level to walk it but it's still not a great movement. It's notes like these that I feel would benefit from a larger distance and a more comfortable slider shape
Maybe I'm just being silly here but I'd recommend going through this difficulty and more clearly defining dash distances, really sorry for being so vague went through the map a bit I guess

00:16:593 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This section feels very repetitive to play, 00:17:957 (3,4) - is incredibly similar to 00:16:593 (1,2) - that comes right before it but is just further to the right in the playfield. I think if you made 00:16:593 (1) - and 00:17:957 (3) - repeaters you could avoid this repetitiveness of dashing left in to a slider, following it and walking to the right until another dash and doing the same thing again about four times in a row fixed up the kiai a bit
00:20:684 (3,4) - I don't feel like a direction change to 00:22:048 (4) - fits too well. I'd recommend adjusting the curve of 00:20:684 (3) - so it ends a bit more to the left of the playfield and then flipping 00:22:048 (4) - already fixed while i fixed up stuff
01:09:093 (1) - I'd split this, end it at 01:09:774 - and then add a note on 01:10:115 - with a dash to it as it's quite a strong note ok
01:30:911 (2) - That's a really loud clap! Or at least it sounds loud considering the context of it, maybe reduce the HS volume here? Same would go for all diffs i think its fine, the song is bulding up here so
[ Platter]
00:05:684 (1,2) - This is being quite picky but compared to the overall distancing and SV used in this intro the SV on these fully horizontal (or close enough to it) sliders feels a bit high. I'd recommend to tilt these a little more, same for 00:09:775 (1,2) - ehhh i think it's fine lmao
00:21:366 (5,6,7,8) - Maybe move 00:21:536 (6,7) - a bit further to the left to contrast the louder piano sounds with the quiter ones at 00:20:684 (1,2,3,4) -
01:54:774 - Distancing in this outro feels a bit ambiguous. The intro consistently uses about 2.0x ds dashes whereas this outro uses a few different ds values such as 1.51x at 02:00:229 (1) - which feels rather ambiguous. For the distances around 1.50x ds I'd recommend either nerfing them to about 1.40x ds if they're intended to be walks or buffing to at least 1.80x ds if they're intended to be dashes okay lmao
Hope this helps!

Thanks!!

Tyrell

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-09-04T20:41:25+00:00

Sorcerer wrote:
Hey, here with another mod for you in my quest to be active

Tyrell's Utopia
00:15:911 (1,2,3,4) - I'd increase the spacing between these a little bit. The distance is a little low at the moment causing for a slightly awkward movement when slowing the catcher down whilst still moving in the same direction I agree, changed.
00:53:582 (2,3,4,5) - I could be crazy but the distance between these feels lower than what you've used previously when compared to 00:49:491 (2,3,4,5) - the distances are actually larger than the previous pattern but I guess you hear the music and expect it to be more intense. I could increase distance here but I feel it could make it a bit too much and seem like a random spike.
01:21:707 (7,8) - Nazi distance man strikes again. Any reason for the ever so slightly lower distancing to these compared to the rest of the pattern? Would be nice to bring them in line with the rest it's okay, i fixed to make it more consistent.
01:47:957 (1,2,3,4) - This feels really uncalled for to me, I'd really recommend to rework this pattern and remove the hypers to 01:48:298 (2) - and 01:48:980 (4) -although i can see your reasoning i think this pattern fits because all the hypers to the heads of the sliders are on important vocal lines. Combine this with the fact that this is the most intense part of the song musically and lyrically, in my opinion, i think this pattern although a bit forced, fits well here.
Hope this helps!

Thanks for the mod.

Update

osu file format v14

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Kimitakari

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Kimitakari 2017-09-13T14:27:44+00:00

Thanks for the mod Sorcerer! Unfortunately I forgot some suggestions where I denied but I fixed most of the stuff you wrote. pls dont bully me benny ):

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-09-13T20:31:46+00:00

Nelly wrote:
Thanks for the mod Sorcerer! Unfortunately I forgot some suggestions where I denied but I fixed most of the stuff you wrote. pls dont bully me benny ):

Gonna bully you for life
~~Will update when I'm home~~ updated

MBomb

MBomb 2017-09-29T04:46:59+00:00

Out of nowhere, an MBomb mod.

[Cup]

00:11:139 (1) - The sudden intensity change here calls for more emphasis in my opinion, especially considering it's the introduction of the kiai. x:376 helps to give it that kick.
00:19:320 (1) - Higher distancing for the very strong high pitch vocal here could be nice. x:456 works.
00:35:684 (1,2,3) - Such a small distance to this section is kinda anticlimatic in my opinion. x:408 on this section would feel better.
00:41:139 (1) - Higher distance for sudden vocal pitch change would fit well, maybe do x:136.
01:27:502 (1) - Such small distancing here also doesn't sound very good to me with the song, x:216 would feel a lot nicer to play with the song.
01:52:048 (1) - Pretty strong vocal, stronger distance could be nice, x:176 is fitting.

[Salad]

00:16:593 (1) - Pretty strong sound here, a dash would fit nicely I feel, x:96 maybe?
00:24:775 (2) - That's quite strong distancing for a vocal that isn't even really that strong. x:312 would be more comfortable.
00:32:275 (3) - Pretty strong distancing here too, might want to reduce slightly to like x:216.
00:54:775 (1) - Dash to this could work nicely for the section change and strong vocal to accompany it. Try x:72 with a shape like this.
00:56:480 (4) - Pretty difficult to hit the next note due to the strength of the backforth, maybe try reducing it to like x:184.
00:58:866 (1) - Quite a strong vocal, maybe try a dash to it by moving this to x:88.
01:01:934 (2) - Again, a pretty strong distance backforth, quite difficult to hit for a salad player. Try x:136 instead.
01:02:957 (1) - Dash to this would be really fitting for the strong sound here and section change, x:24 would make it sound really good.
01:05:002 (1) - Pretty strong distancing for a sound which doesn't feel particularly strong compared to other vocals where you have normal distancing. x:104 would be comfortable.
01:09:093 (1,2) - Firstly, I feel as though 1 is a pretty strong vocal, so maybe try something like x:56 to add a dash to it, and secondly, I feel as though the timeline here would better reflect the song if it was a 1/2 repeat slider followed by a circle, to better reflect the vocals here.
01:16:593 (1) - The movement here feels like it should reflect a dash, but the distance is smaller than most dash distances throughout the map, which could throw a player off into thinking this is just a bigger normal movement. x:176 helps to balance out that.
01:24:775 (1) - A dash to this could be nice for the higher pitch vocal emphasis here, x:416 would add in a nice dash I feel.
01:31:592 (1) - I feel as though a dash for this would fit nicely as this is really when the high pitch vocal starts to kick in. x:72 would be a good placement.
01:32:957 (1) - Dash for the start of kiai would be a nice way to emphasise the strong introduction into this section. x:112 fits it well.
01:41:819 (2,1) - I feel like the distancing to 2 right now is a bit strong, and a normal movement would work better to feel nice with the buildup here, so a movement of this section to like, x:464, would be great.
01:56:139 (2) - Not really a fan of how big the distancing to this is, it's not that strong of a note, a smaller distancing would feel nicer to play.

Really nice salad actually! <3

[Platter]

00:54:093 (4) - I think a bigger distance to this would really help to emphasise the drums here more. Maybe try x:424?
01:41:139 (1) - A bit of a strong HDash to this right now. May be better to move the head to x:132 whilst changing the slider to have it end in the same place it currently does, for flow.
01:42:502 (1) - Same as above, except this time move the head to x:176.
01:43:866 (1) - And with this one too, except x:376.
01:47:956 (1) - Could be nice to weaken this HDash a bit to x:196, to make the movements after it slightly more lenient.
01:52:048 (1) - Try to adjust this slider a bit so the tail ends in the same place but the head is at around x:364, the weaker HDash can make flow feel nicer for a platter player.
01:53:410 (1) - Same as above, but x:348 on this one.
02:05:513 (6) - Dash to this feels nice to me as a finisher of the map, considering the high pitch on that note. x:496?

[Utopia]

00:21:707 (3,4) - Slightly weaker HDash strength to this could make that direction change feel a bit smoother, maybe reduce it to like x:440?
00:35:343 - Maybe make a note on this piano, even if it's just a slider end for a 1/2 slider on 4, would sound nice to me.
00:41:139 (1) - HDash to this could be nice for the sudden strong high vocal, however it would take some rearranging of the next slider to make it feel comfortable (Moving this to x:24 makes the HDash, however the harder part is making the next part flow well after that).
00:54:093 (4) - Would feel pretty nice to make this distancing a little bigger, to emphasise those drums more with a back-forth dash there. x:368 would work.
01:02:957 (1) - Maybe do a HDash to this for the section change. x:60 makes a HDash, and then you can just rearrange the slider slightly to make the next part feel nice to play.
01:09:093 (1,2) - Would also work to have a HDash to 2 there, both for the strong vocal, and emphasis on the end of the section like you did at 00:44:207 (2,3) - .1 on x:112 and 2 on x:496 accomplishes this really nicely.

Amazing mapping Tyrell, I love it.

Call me back.

Tyrell

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-09-29T06:24:45+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:
[Utopia]

00:21:707 (3,4) - Slightly weaker HDash strength to this could make that direction change feel a bit smoother, maybe reduce it to like x:440? okie.
00:35:343 - Maybe make a note on this piano, even if it's just a slider end for a 1/2 slider on 4, would sound nice to me. it's so quiet and isnt the focus of this section of the song so i feel like puttting a note here is weird.
00:41:139 (1) - HDash to this could be nice for the sudden strong high vocal, however it would take some rearranging of the next slider to make it feel comfortable (Moving this to x:24 makes the HDash, however the harder part is making the next part flow well after that). i see how a hyper could fit but it would play better as either a double dash or hyper into dash and i feel like a hyper into dash would be too uncomfortable and feel odd compared to the rest of the map.
00:54:093 (4) - Would feel pretty nice to make this distancing a little bigger, to emphasise those drums more with a back-forth dash there. x:368 would work. okie
01:02:957 (1) - Maybe do a HDash to this for the section change. x:60 makes a HDash, and then you can just rearrange the slider slightly to make the next part feel nice to play. triggering a HDash at this spacing of 1/1 is really hard, and i dont think it fits the previous patterns too well.
01:09:093 (1,2) - Would also work to have a HDash to 2 there, both for the strong vocal, and emphasis on the end of the section like you did at 00:44:207 (2,3) - .1 on x:112 and 2 on x:496 accomplishes this really nicely. works fine and really brings out the end of the section.

Amazing mapping Tyrell, I love it. thank you very much. glad to see someone likes it.

Call me back.

Update

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-09-29T15:19:28+00:00

Everything applied except 02:05:513 (6) - in platter, don't think it fits with a dash here. Direction change is enough.

Thanks for modding!

Kimitakari

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Kimitakari 2017-09-29T18:30:04+00:00

I accepted everything. Thanks again mbomb!

when you came back home but benny is kicking my giant lazy ass to accept these 6 suggestion of yours

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-09-29T18:34:36+00:00

All updated!

MBomb

MBomb 2017-09-29T22:20:50+00:00

Rechecking.

[Cup]

00:56:820 (1) - Quite a strong vocal here, the lack of distancing to it feels a little strange, maybe increase it to like x:368.

[Salad]

00:15:230 (1) - A dash to this could be fitting. Try x:224 on this for similar distancing to what you've done for other 1/2 dashes in the map.
01:09:093 (1) - Dash to this for the strong vocal would also be pretty nice, try x:56 with a different curve to keep flow afterwards the same.
01:19:320 (1) - A pretty strong non-dash distancing to this as it is now. Reducing it a bit, to x:320, would be a lot more comfortable for a salad player.

Other 2 diffs seem fine to me.

Kimitakari

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Kimitakari 2017-09-30T07:38:07+00:00

accepted

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Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-09-30T10:00:58+00:00

all applied and all updated!

MBomb

MBomb 2017-09-30T19:26:20+00:00

Went through some minor changes to dash movements in IRC, I think everything's fine now.

Bubbled <3

lupuGG

34 posts

Joined April 2015

lupuGG 2017-10-01T12:51:58+00:00

shitmap benny is girl pls no rank girl is objective they do not associate with ranking criteria aka man, i miss 1 note omg very bad!
jk <3 gl with rank

Electoz

1,886 posts

Joined May 2015

Electoz 2017-10-05T03:50:35+00:00

Is there any way to get a better mp3 than the current one lol
Also metadata pls I don't think anything can go wrong but just in case.

[Nelly's Cup]

00:50:684 (1,2,1,2) - Could've applied the symmetric pattern idea from what you did with 00:46:593 (1,2,1,2) tho?
01:02:956 (1) - Shouldn't this be a 2/1 slider like 00:54:775 (1) considering that the vocal at 01:03:297 is not really significant to be mapped.
01:05:002 (3) - NC? Since there's one at 00:56:820 (1) which has a similar rhythm. Or removing the NC on 00:56:820 (1) also works.
01:45:230 (2) - Ctrl+H? Since you don't usually do anti-flows in kiais anyways

[Salad]

00:15:059 (4) - Can be removed? Most of your rhythms previously in that kiai are focused on vocals tho so this one stood out.
00:30:059 - A circle can be added here too if you want to follow the vocal.
00:42:843 (1) - Any reason for using trickier movements? Because most of your long slider stuff in this section are plainly curved ones and not complicated as this. (it’s not like you did something special here in platter either zzz)
00:48:638 (1) - ^
01:06:366 (3,1) - Was expecting a larger spacing on this like what you did consistently earlier every 4 measures 00:54:093 (2,1) - 00:58:184 (4,1) - 01:02:275 (3,1) .
01:34:320 (3) - NC
01:37:048 (1) - 2/1 slider + circle work better since the vocal fades at 01:37:728 .
01:42:501 (1,2) - Could be a 2/1 slider instead with the similar vocal reasoning as above.

[Platter]

00:02:957 (1,2) - Would be nice if you can make this flow in the same way as what you did with other pairs 00:00:230 (1,2) - 00:01:593 (1,2) - 00:05:684 (1,2) - etc
00:04:661 (2,3,4) - You hitsounded these differently from other measures but there's no difference in mapping at all zzz, same goes for Salad tho
00:07:730 (3) - Variation is one thing but the way you did this is too random. Since this is the only time (compared to other measures) which you did a repeat slider instead of 4 circles but the rhythm here isn't any different.
00:48:297 (4,1) - mmm spacing could be a bit bigger, just like 00:52:388 (4,1) .
01:18:639 (2,1) - 01:20:002 (2,1) - Bigger spacings on these would be nice too to make those downbeats more highlighted.
01:55:457 (5) - You emphasized this but not in other places in later measures which have a similar rhythm like 01:56:819 - 01:58:183 - 01:59:547 - etc so you might wanna take a look at those

00:22:048 - 00:38:752 - 01:15:228 - 01:50:683 - 01:53:410 - Also you NC'd these differently between Salad and Platter in case you want to check whether any one of these is not intentional

[Tyrell's Utopia]

00:27:502 (3,1) - Swap NC?
00:28:866 (4,1) - ^ cuz downbeat reasoning
00:31:593 (3) - Could NC here too considering you NC'd everything in this section every 1 measure.
00:38:752 (3) - ^
00:42:843 (3,1) - Could do a bigger spacing like what you did when 1/2 rhythms are happening at downbeats like 00:36:877 (3,1) - 00:39:605 (5,1) - 00:42:332 (4,1) .
01:21:195 (4,5) - Optional; a dash can be added here to emphasize 01:21:366 (5) .
01:36:707 (3) - Is this hyperdash intentional? For now I'll assume it's not since you didn't do this in other places like 01:35:343 (3) - 01:40:798 (3) - 01:46:252 (3) - 01:47:616 (3) - where your hyperdashes don't exist after 2 1/1 sliders.
02:00:741 (2,3) - Can you add more spacing on this for emphasis like what you did in other measures 01:55:286 (4,5) - 01:56:650 (2,3) - 01:59:377 (2,3) - etc

Regardless of what you have fixed, it'll be a rebubble, since I'm still on probation obviously.

Benita

604 posts

Joined February 2014

Topic Starter

Benita 2017-10-05T11:18:02+00:00

Electoz wrote:
Is there any way to get a better mp3 than the current one lol I can try finding one lmao
Also metadata pls I don't think anything can go wrong but just in case. Can put it in description but here: http://projectmili.com/miracle-milk

[Salad]

00:15:059 (4) - Can be removed? Most of your rhythms previously in that kiai are focused on vocals tho so this one stood out. ok
00:30:059 - A circle can be added here too if you want to follow the vocal. ok
00:42:843 (1) - Any reason for using trickier movements? Because most of your long slider stuff in this section are plainly curved ones and not complicated as this. (it’s not like you did something special here in platter either zzz) eh mostly cause of variation, but platter has jumps and stuff surrounding the sliders where Salad doesn't really offer much so I thought it was cool to add some variation amongs the sliders instead
00:48:638 (1) - ^ same as above
01:06:366 (3,1) - Was expecting a larger spacing on this like what you did consistently earlier every 4 measures 00:54:093 (2,1) - 00:58:184 (4,1) - 01:02:275 (3,1) . ok
01:34:320 (3) - NC ok
01:37:048 (1) - 2/1 slider + circle work better since the vocal fades at 01:37:728 . ok
01:42:501 (1,2) - Could be a 2/1 slider instead with the similar vocal reasoning as above. the vocal isn't the same as above and the usage of 1/1 sliders is for the buildup for the kiai reset
[Platter]

00:02:957 (1,2) - Would be nice if you can make this flow in the same way as what you did with other pairs 00:00:230 (1,2) - 00:01:593 (1,2) - 00:05:684 (1,2) - etc but why? do all sliders have to be the same
00:04:661 (2,3,4) - You hitsounded these differently from other measures but there's no difference in mapping at all zzz, same goes for Salad tho ehhh that's because the hitsounds were added AFTER the map was finished... I think it's a cute hitsound but I don't really think the change in the music is noticeable enough to make a drastical change but if you have something in mind please do tell me!
00:07:730 (3) - Variation is one thing but the way you did this is too random. Since this is the only time (compared to other measures) which you did a repeat slider instead of 4 circles but the rhythm here isn't any different. added a repeat like that before the bell hitsound so now I have a valid reason for it being there and we can call it consistent!!!
00:48:297 (4,1) - mmm spacing could be a bit bigger, just like 00:52:388 (4,1) . 00:52:729 - is a lot more intense of a sound than 00:48:638 -
01:18:639 (2,1) - 01:20:002 (2,1) - Bigger spacings on these would be nice too to make those downbeats more highlighted. ok
01:55:457 (5) - You emphasized this but not in other places in later measures which have a similar rhythm like 01:56:819 - 01:58:183 - 01:59:547 - etc so you might wanna take a look at those if you listen to where I put the whistles, that's the beats i was emphasising, they're placed on the background piano cause i think a simple dash on every 1/2 slider is boring :3
00:22:048 - 00:38:752 - 01:15:228 - 01:50:683 - 01:53:410 - Also you NC'd these differently between Salad and Platter in case you want to check whether any one of these is not intentional I guess i fixed them

Regardless of what you have fixed, it'll be a rebubble, since I'm still on probation obviously. same

Thanks for the mod! Will update once the GD'ers apply!

Kimitakari

Beatmap Nominator

1,533 posts

Joined August 2014

Kimitakari 2017-10-05T12:27:18+00:00

Electoz wrote:
[Nelly's Cup]

00:50:684 (1,2,1,2) - Could've applied the symmetric pattern idea from what you did with 00:46:593 (1,2,1,2) tho? I'll keep it because it requires some kind of variety.
01:02:956 (1) - Shouldn't this be a 2/1 slider like 00:54:775 (1) considering that the vocal at 01:03:297 is not really significant to be mapped.
01:05:002 (3) - NC? Since there's one at 00:56:820 (1) which has a similar rhythm. Or removing the NC on 00:56:820 (1) also works.
01:45:230 (2) - Ctrl+H? Since you don't usually do anti-flows in kiais anyways

No replies means accepted. Thanks for a check! https://puu.sh/xQzVs/06be331332.osu

Tyrell

425 posts

Joined July 2014

Tyrell 2017-10-05T21:01:02+00:00

Electoz wrote:
Is there any way to get a better mp3 than the current one lol
Also metadata pls I don't think anything can go wrong but just in case. ;w;

[Tyrell's Utopia]

00:27:502 (3,1) - Swap NC? NC as it currently is makes more sense, since it starts at the vocal phrase la la la.
00:28:866 (4,1) - ^ cuz downbeat reasoning makes more sense to NC on the vocal emphasis since the mapping is tailoring to the vocals at that part.
00:31:593 (3) - Could NC here too considering you NC'd everything in this section every 1 measure. seems fine
00:38:752 (3) - ^ seems good
00:42:843 (3,1) - Could do a bigger spacing like what you did when 1/2 rhythms are happening at downbeats like 00:36:877 (3,1) - 00:39:605 (5,1) - 00:42:332 (4,1) . those instances have more spacing because of the emphasis on the notes following the sliders from vocals and instruments. that particular point doesnt need that emphasis so i would rather keep it a walk.
01:21:195 (4,5) - Optional; a dash can be added here to emphasize 01:21:366 (5) . A dash could make sense here but i would rather not,
i like what the pattern brings in term of variety to the map.
01:36:707 (3) - Is this hyperdash intentional? For now I'll assume it's not since you didn't do this in other places like 01:35:343 (3) - 01:40:798 (3) - 01:46:252 (3) - 01:47:616 (3) - where your hyperdashes don't exist after 2 1/1 sliders. it was intentional. it marks the emphasis on the 3rd note because of the vocals. the other instances you pointed out are different because of either the emphasis at that moment wasnt strong enough to warrant a dash or the patterns following would have the section have too many hyperdashes and fitting a rain of this SR, i would rather keep the hypers fair with only so many in rapid succession unless the part is emphasized for intensity or the music calls for it.
02:00:741 (2,3) - Can you add more spacing on this for emphasis like what you did in other measures 01:55:286 (4,5) - 01:56:650 (2,3) - 01:59:377 (2,3) - etc given the design choice of this section, it wouldnt make sense to add distance to those notes. those notes are meant to be walked. the patterns you compared them to were 4 1/2 notes then a dash which is different from the patterns with 3 1/2 notes then a dash. I did this differently to add variety to the ending which would just be boring 1/2 slider spam with the same dash patterns.
Regardless of what you have fixed, it'll be a rebubble, since I'm still on probation obviously.

Yay for probation. .-.

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