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Kurokotei - Galaxy Collapse [CatchTheBeat]

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CLSW
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2022년 7월 3일 일요일 at 오후 7:34:16

Artist: Kurokotei
Title: Galaxy Collapse
Source: 東方星蓮船 ~ Undefined Fantastic Object.
Tags: touhou speedcore th12 seirensen ZUN 東方project extra stage boss theme video game fa featured artist 平安のエイリアン heian no alien nue houjuu 封獣ぬえ team shanghai alice star lotus ship ufo Sayaka- dialgadu77 marathon kurokoutei Electronic Instrumental Pyrozen Mamat Minato Yukina Crystality
BPM: 270
Filesize: 12593kb
Play Time: 06:45
Difficulties Available:
  1. Apocalyptic Requiem (8.57 stars, 1971 notes)


Download: Kurokotei - Galaxy Collapse
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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re-dl date June 23rd 2022 Renewal Storyboard
FOR LOVED RANKED

NOT COMPATIBLE FOR HUMAN

SoundCloud link

STORYBOARD COLLAB WITH MAMAT


This map got a permission from Kurokotei.
Ascendance
Welcome back
Jonis221
For loved?
Topic Starter
CLSW

alright passed myself again, get on the hype train
koliron
Don't let it die!!

I would be glad of bubble this map, but i couldn't without more opinions, even if the first time that you submitted got many,

THIS MAP NEEDS MORE MODS!! :cry::cry::cry:


55o F
Topic Starter
CLSW
OMGWTF
ExGon
05:53:068 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -

이 패턴은 320bpm 1/2 와리가리인데,(160bpm 1/4) 양쪽 슬라이더가 늦게 끝나는 바람에 원래 1/2 타이밍보다 47ms 밀려있습니다.

그런데 실제로 받아볼 때는 체감이 잘 되지 않는데, 하이퍼 관성 때문에 슬라이더에서 캐쳐가 끝으로 간 상태에서 0.047초 만에 캐쳐가 슬라이더 끝에 나오는 하이퍼를 놓칠 정도로 빠르게 움직일 수 없기 때문입니다. 슬라이더의 시작 지점도 원래 1/2타이밍이고요. 그런데 하드락을 건 상태에서는 cs가 작아지면서 관성도 같이 약해지기 때문에, 박자에 맞춰서 눌렀음에도 불구하고 과일을 놓치는 경우가 많더군요. 논모드의 경우도 키 입력이 덜 되었다던가, 다음 키를 일찍 눌러서 하이퍼를 끝까지 안 타고 움직임을 끊었다던가 하는 이유로 하이퍼 관성을 덜 받고 슬라이더에서 캐쳐가 끝으로 가지 않을 수도 있기 때문에 불안합니다.

그래서 이 패턴을 스탠다드랑 비슷하게 박자 위주로 키를 눌러도 확실히 받을 수 있게 만들어야 할 필요가 있다고 생각합니다. 양쪽의 슬라이더들 끝부분을 1/2로 끝나게 놓아서 원래 1/2 타이밍보다 키 입력이 5ms만 늦어도 폭사하는 패턴을 만들 수도 있고, 슬라이더의 중간 부분(현재 기준으로 1/8에 맞춰져 있습니다)을 1/2로 끝나게 놓아서 원래 1/2 타이밍 앞뒤로 24ms의 완충 프레임을 만들 수도 있습니다. 원래 1/2 타이밍 기준으로 전자는 od10 dt 300 판정보다 더 빡센 타이밍을 요구하지만 반대로 조금은 일찍 눌러도 받는 게 가능해지고, 후자는 od9.5 none 300 판정이랑 비슷해집니다.

전자는 at the speed of light의 02:31:118 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - 이 패턴이랑 비슷하고, 후자는 diavolo의 01:41:250 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 이 패턴이랑 비슷합니다.

패턴 전체를 리맵하는 방법도 있지만 직전 패턴들과 연계성도 떨어지게 되고, 화면을 꽉꽉 채우는 1/16 과일에 하이퍼가 제대로 들어가면서 리딩도 쉽게 되는 패턴은 이 패턴밖에 없는 듯 하니 별로 추천드리지는 않습니다.

아무쪼록 랭크 기원합니다.
Topic Starter
CLSW
의견 수렴하여 여러 방면으로 고려한 완충 프레임을 만들어봤습니다. 조언 감사합니다!
Yumeno Himiko

koliron wrote:

Don't let it die!!

I would be glad of bubble this map, but i couldn't without more opinions, even if the first time that you submitted got many,

THIS MAP NEEDS MORE MODS!! :cry::cry::cry:


55o F
This map is for loved lmao jk rank this will be better

Edit: and what?..... 60 stars! :)
Sinnoh
inb4 Hyperw7 FCs with HDHR again when it's ranked

On a side note, the finishes during the buildup at 02:35:390 (1) - seem to be too loud or out of place, at the least for the first half.

Another thing is that the 1/8 and 1/16 notes put too much load on the computer at some points, this might be an issue that would affect rankability. My fps normally sticks at around 120. It dropped to 100 at 03:37:053 (1) - and went down to 70 fps at 03:49:853 (1) - . 90 fps at 05:41:443 (1) - and 60 fps at 05:52:318 (1) - . There's the issue that the drop in frame rate might cause fruits to be missed on weaker computers, and is an issue that should be addressed.
EL-S
You got this! C:
Aerene
wtf koliron 60 stars holy shit

RANK THIS PLS

TIME TO HURT MYSELF

will mod (noob mod)
Aerene
03:25:053 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Patterns like this are hard. D:
05:52:318 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - I prefer the previous stream.
Tsumugi Aoba
wut
Kagari
make it 11 star pls
kds pls :^)
MBomb
would be happy to check this after a few mods, i like this map
Topic Starter
CLSW

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

would be happy to check this after a few mods, i like this map
gonna poke you when it's ready :^)

Kagari wrote:

make it 11 star pls
kds pls :^)
wow rude
Nelly
If you remove every object in this map it will give 0.00*. Dont rank it, please.
Winter3244
Heard this needs mods!

[Nervous Apocalypse]
Sound
00:28:457 - Could add a spinner instead of a break.
00:38:901 (1) - Extend this slider to 00:39:124 and make a single fruit 00:39:235
^I don't hear any beat at 00:39:068 and think what I suggested sounds better.
00:54:957 - There should be note here. Try a repeating slider.
01:26:957 - Should be a beat here.
01:35:790 (1) - Extend slider end to 01:36:012 making it the same length as the slider at 01:36:457
^There is no beat at 01:35:957 So there is no reason to end the slider soon just for another slider.
03:22:953 (2) - This slider is out of place, there is no pitch change or beat here. Try adding a triplet to make something like this.
IF YOU USE THIS ADD A TRIPLE AT 03:24:053 AS WELL Something like this
03:37:453 (1) - Extend to 03:37:803 Making it the same length as the one at 05:41:443 (1)

Gameplay
04:10:796 (3) - This hyper seems too hard try moving to x:96
05:47:630 (6) - Feels out of place try x144 instead.
05:53:068 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - ?????????? Please nerf this, 1) Overly hard for most players 2) Some computers can't handle it massive frame drop.

Sorry for small gameplay mod :c nothing I would change/take out expect for the end parts. Hope my mod was useful!!! Good luck on rank :D
Topic Starter
CLSW
00:28:457 - not really satisfied with break, it doesn't make intense feel for me.
00:38:901 (1) , 01:35:790 (1) - Technically they are the right place to do with hyperdash, but the current meta has been established like this style so it'll cause many of discussions. Gonna think about it later.
03:22:953 (2) - it'll be awkward if i change slider's speed here. already it has no jumps between (1) and (2) so i think it's fine, also i'm not a big fan of triplet on this part cuz of consistency
04:10:796 (3) - Inconsistency placement with 04:11:018 (4) - doesn't look good.
05:47:443 (5) - Same reason as above.
05:53:068 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - This is the key-input based part. I've intended to make this pattern with players' movement like left right alternative stream in bpm 160 1/4, technically it's not that hard input at all. try to concentrate on its real beats with 1/4, then you can pass it. also the frame drop issue isn't in ranking criteria, so i believe it's fine.

rest were fixed, thanks!
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