Pastry - Sora No Mukou (Trance Arrange)

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Topic Starter
Ayeen
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 at 11:16:36 AM

Artist: Pastry
Title: Sora No Mukou (Trance Arrange)
Source: Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni
Tags: Shion Sonozaki dai Soul-less Heatkai
BPM: 137.01
Filesize: 4044kb
Play Time: 02:42
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4.84 stars, 509 notes)
  2. Heat's Taiko (5 stars, 719 notes)
  3. Jump stage (4.85 stars, 492 notes)
  4. Normal (4.13 stars, 279 notes)
  5. Soul-less-ly Easy (2.47 stars, 172 notes)


Download: Pastry - Sora No Mukou (Trance Arrange)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Map I made as a special training for myself for streaming purpose.
Hard - Done 100%
Normal - Done 100%
Soul-less-ly Easy added 100%
Heat Taiko added 100 %
Modding needed :)
23/04/2011 Changed Mp3 Redownload if you download before this date
07/5/2011 change new bg
26/05/2011 move back to WIP as Jump Stage in porgress.
Jump stage is more difficult than streaming hard
Lilac
Expert seems a bit too easy. But I dunno, easy maps are cool.

[Skin]
A lot of your numbers are cut out from the right side. I suggest you might want to look at it again and redo them.

Also, some of those stacks with just two circles and overlap a lot...are annoying...
Omega
IRC mod. You probably took a look at all my notes. So I don't need to remind you of anything!
I do need you to remind me when the map is entirely finished, so I can star it. Good luck!
HeatKai
Nixnez
Roar.
Edit 1: Some hitsound fixes, some slider fixes. Removed the starting spinnner.

Download: Pastry - Sora No Mukou (Trance Arrange) (Ayeen) [Soul-less-ly Easy].osu

Download: Pastry - Sora No Mukou (Trance Arrange) (Ayeen) [Soul-less-ly Easy].osu
Kurosanyan
[General]
  1. Make the BG 800x600? Not really important however.
  2. Add countdown on Easy or remove it from all diffs.
  3. Too much Audio lead in imo 0~500 would be more than enough.
  4. Add a preview time! How about 30881?
  5. 02:12:041 - Remove break time or add it on Easy
  6. Add Soul-less to tags
  7. All diffs should end at the same time. How about 02:29:558 - or 02:29:996 - ? Ending at 02:33:062 - sounds weird :(
  8. Add a kiai time from 00:48:836 - to 01:16:863 - ? Only a suggestion it's your choice to make kiai time or not.


[Soul-less]
  1. You should avoid making too much 1/2 on an Easy 00:53:653 (1,2,3,4) - like this
  2. Your map is full of wrong spacing, respace the map using x0,8 spacing please. You can use this yellow thing to help you: http://puu.sh/1N8R (if the spacing is only 0,01~0,04 wrong it's not really a problem but try to avoid it)
  3. Except for the abuse of 1/2 and the spacing messed up it looks good.


[Normal]
  1. 00:05:481 (5,1) - Fix the spacing.
  2. 00:10:736 (2,3,4) - Fix the spacing? (nazi mod lololol)
  3. 00:23:326 - Snap it on 00:23:436 - or it makes a weird slider sound :/
  4. 01:29:125 (1,2,3) - Like this: http://puu.sh/1N9v ?
  5. 01:44:014 (5,1) - Fix the spacing? :( 01:44:890 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Flip all of those not with ctrl+h and then fix the spacing for 01:58:466 (1) - , I think it's the easier way to fix the spacing.
  6. 02:13:136 (1) - Stack it under 02:11:165 (3) - or flip it with ctrl+j and ctrl+h
  7. 02:28:025 - Add a circle?


[Hard]
  1. 00:10:298 (5,1) - Use spacing x1?
  2. 00:16:210 (6,1) - ^
  3. 00:17:524 (6,1) - ^
  4. 00:17:305 (5,6) - Use spacing x1! :(
  5. 00:31:757 (1) - Make spacing x1,5? 00:32:632 (2) - Copy paste (1) and flip it with ctrl+h and ctrl+j?
  6. 00:32:632 (1,1) - Spacing x1,20?
  7. 00:38:325 (5,1) - Little spacing error.
  8. 00:45:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Move it more to the left?
  9. 00:48:836 (5,1) - Use spacing x1?
  10. 01:23:432 (1,2,3,4) - Why spacing x0,5 here??? Doesn't really fit.
  11. 01:28:687 (7,1) - Use spacing x1! :(
  12. 01:30:876 (5,1) - Little spacing error.
  13. 01:37:883 (5,1) - ^
  14. 01:45:547 (3,4) - Use spacing x1 D:
  15. 01:55:619 (6) - Stack it under (4)
  16. 01:55:838 (7,1) - Use spacing x1,2?
  17. 02:06:348 (1,2,3) - Flip it with ctrl+h, then select 1 and 3 and use ctrl+r to reverse it. That will fix spacing of 02:05:910 (5,1) -
  18. 02:07:224 (1,2,3) - Copy past the previous pattern and flip with ctrl+h.http://puu.sh/1NaW(then you can select 1 and 3 and use ctrl+r again to make spacing x1 if you want and if you like it)
  19. 02:13:136 - Add a note?
  20. 02:14:669 (7) - Remove this note?
  21. 02:14:888 - Add a note?
  22. 02:15:764 - Add a note?
  23. 02:18:391 (5,1) - Use spacing x1!!!!!! :cry:
  24. 02:19:924 (3,1) - ^
  25. 02:24:741 (1,2) - Little spacing error here.


Good map, good luck for the rank! :D
Topic Starter
Ayeen

Kurosanyan wrote:

[General]
  1. Make the BG 800x600? Not really important however.Bg stay
  2. Add countdown on Easy or remove it from all diffs.removed all
  3. Too much Audio lead in imo 0~500 would be more than enough.nope
  4. Add a preview time! How about 30881?totally forgot bout it
  5. 02:12:041 - Remove break time or add it on Easy.removed
  6. Add Soul-less to tagsTotally forgot about it
  7. All diffs should end at the same time. How about 02:29:558 - or 02:29:996 - ? Ending at 02:33:062 - sounds weird :(
  8. Add a kiai time from 00:48:836 - to 01:16:863 - ? Only a suggestion it's your choice to make kiai time or not.
Nah

[Soul-less]
  1. You should avoid making too much 1/2 on an Easy 00:53:653 (1,2,3,4) - like this
  2. Your map is full of wrong spacing, respace the map using x0,8 spacing please. You can use this yellow thing to help you: http://puu.sh/1N8R (if the spacing is only 0,01~0,04 wrong it's not really a problem but try to avoid it)
  3. Except for the abuse of 1/2 and the spacing messed up it looks good.


[Normal]
  1. 00:05:481 (5,1) - Fix the spacing.
  2. 00:10:736 (2,3,4) - Fix the spacing? (nazi mod lololol)
  3. 00:23:326 - Snap it on 00:23:436 - or it makes a weird slider sound :/ Nope
  4. 01:29:125 (1,2,3) - Like this: http://puu.sh/1N9v ? I stay with my pattern
  5. 01:44:014 (5,1) - Fix the spacing? :(There is enough time gap from (5) to (1), So spacing issue is not a problem
    01:44:890 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Flip all of those not with ctrl+h and then fix the spacing for 01:58:466 (1) - , I think it's the easier way to fix the spacing.Nope
  6. 02:13:136 (1) - Stack it under 02:11:165 (3) - or flip it with ctrl+j and ctrl+hI stay with my pattern
  7. 02:28:025 - Add a circle?
I stay with mine, it is more sync with the other pattern beforehand

[Hard]
  1. 00:10:298 (5,1) - Use spacing x1? I stay, it is more neat looking
  2. 00:16:210 (6,1) - ^^
  3. 00:17:524 (6,1) - ^^
  4. 00:17:305 (5,6) - Use spacing x1! :(I stay with 0.5
  5. 00:31:757 (1) - Make spacing x1,5?Ok 00:32:632 (2) - Copy paste (1) and flip it with ctrl+h and ctrl+j? Nah
  6. 00:32:632 (1,1) - Spacing x1,20?ok
  7. 00:38:325 (5,1) - Little spacing error.Fixed
  8. 00:45:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Move it more to the left?Not for now
  9. 00:48:836 (5,1) - Use spacing x1?no
  10. 01:23:432 (1,2,3,4) - Why spacing x0,5 here??? Doesn't really fit.No changes
  11. 01:28:687 (7,1) - Use spacing x1! :(No
  12. 01:30:876 (5,1) - Little spacing error.i dont see any
  13. 01:37:883 (5,1) - ^^
  14. 01:45:547 (3,4) - Use spacing x1 D:Using DS1.0 will messed it up
  15. 01:55:619 (6) - Stack it under (4) Nah, (4) only seen in edit, not in play mod
  16. 01:55:838 (7,1) - Use spacing x1,2?no
  17. 02:06:348 (1,2,3) - Flip it with ctrl+h, then select 1 and 3 and use ctrl+r to reverse it. That will fix spacing of 02:05:910 (5,1) - nah,this "hard" Spacing issues really tight as normal and easy. As long as it not looking ugly, it fine
  18. 02:07:224 (1,2,3) - Copy past the previous pattern and flip with ctrl+h.http://puu.sh/1NaW(then you can select 1 and 3 and No use ctrl+r again to make spacing x1 if you want and if you like it)
  19. 02:13:136 - Add a note? Ok
  20. 02:14:669 (7) - Remove this note?No
  21. 02:14:888 - Add a note?No
  22. 02:15:764 - Add a note?^
  23. 02:18:391 (5,1) - Use spacing x1!!!!!! :cry:No
  24. 02:19:924 (3,1) - ^No
  25. 02:24:741 (1,2) - Little spacing error here Fix.


Good map, good luck for the rank! :D
Thanks mod
HeatKai
Taiko Background Rescue Team :D
8-)

Standard BG ( 800 x 600 )




Taiko BG ( 800 x 600 )

wcx19911123
HI

[Soul-less-ly Easy]
00:09:422 (5) - 1 gird down

[Normal]
00:43:799 (2,3) - 1 gird left?
02:18:391 (4) - repeat 1 time more?

[Hard]
02:19:924 (3,1) - spacing

Really nice song,and map is good,cant find any thing
Star

Can I make a guest diff ?
gyt
[Hard]
00:17:305 (5,6) - why you need this anti-jump?
01:44:233 (1) - something like ninja spinner. Do you really need it?
01:45:547 (3,4) - I don't like this anti-jump. It plays very badly. Add new combo at 01:46:204 (4) at least.
02:18:391 (5,1) - ^
maps ends suddenly - add spinner instead of 02:30:872 (1,2,3,4,5) or remove these notes completely?

[Normal]
nice diff, but too many stacks maybe .
00:29:567 (2,3,4) - not in stack?
01:01:097 (3,4) - ^
01:04:163 (3,4,5) - ^ (easy to mix up slider with circle - use one pattern at least - slider-circle-slider, for example)
01:11:170 (4,5,6) - ^
01:14:673 (1,2,3) - ^
01:42:700 (3,4,5) - ^
00:49:274 (1) - too soon after spinner?
02:28:901 (1) - ^ (I suggest end this spinner at 02:30:434 and remove 02:30:872 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) notes)

[Soul-less-ly Easy]
00:02:197 (1) - spinner at the start of the song isn't a good idea. Also it's a bit short for easy.
00:37:887 (4,1) - that placing may be confused for beginners
00:40:515 (4,5) - ^
01:58:465 (1,2) - ^
Topic Starter
Ayeen

gyt wrote:

[Hard]
00:17:305 (5,6) - why you need this anti-jump?ok
01:44:233 (1) - something like ninja spinner. Do you really need it?yes
01:45:547 (3,4) - I don't like this anti-jump. It plays very badly. Add new combo at 01:46:204 (4) at least.I add circle on 01:45:985
02:18:391 (5,1) - ^ OK
maps ends suddenly - add spinner instead of 02:30:872 (1,2,3,4,5) or remove these notes completely? Instead, I put in new mp3 with extra 5 sec length so it not so sudden

[Normal]
nice diff, but too many stacks maybe .
00:29:567 (2,3,4) - not in stack?
01:01:097 (3,4) - ^
01:04:163 (3,4,5) - ^ (easy to mix up slider with circle - use one pattern at least - slider-circle-slider, for example)
01:11:170 (4,5,6) - ^
01:14:673 (1,2,3) - ^
01:42:700 (3,4,5)
00:49:274 (1) - too soon after spinner?
02:28:901 (1) - ^ (I suggest end this spinner at 02:30:434 and remove 02:30:872 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) notes)spinner end at 02:30:434, only delete (1)

[Soul-less-ly Easy]
00:02:197 (1) - spinner at the start of the song isn't a good idea. Also it's a bit short for easy.
00:37:887 (4,1) - that placing may be confused for beginners
00:40:515 (4,5) - ^
01:58:465 (1,2) - ^
wcx19911123
HI
Here
If you like it , then I'll finish it
If not , then ignore
=w=

Download: Pastry - Sora No Mukou (Trance Arrange) (Ayeen) [WCX's Insane].osu
Misja
[Soulles easy]
00:53:653 (1,2,3,4) - I think too much 1/2 sliders. Try some 1/1 sliders
01:58:465 (1) - Don't do this in a easy! :p
02:05:472 (1) - ^

[normal]
1 tip for an normal : Dont go over 7. But dont go too low! (1/2/3)

00:07:233 (1) - Delete new combo
00:15:115 (1) - ^
00:22:122 (1) - ^
00:28:253 (3) - Allign with (2)
00:36:136 (1) - Allign with (3). Delete new combo
01:36:569 (1,2,3) - Allign with the previous one. Delete New Combo
01:51:021 (1) - Delete new combo
01:53:648 (1) - ^
02:04:597 (1) - ^
02:10:290 (3) - Allign with end of slider (2)
02:28:682 (3) - Allgin with (1)
Weird end. Map it further or let it end : 02:28:901 (1) -

[hard]
Tip for hard. Go a little bit further than 3 everytime Go to 9/10.

00:07:233 (1) - Delete new combo
00:08:766 (1) - ^
00:10:736 (1) - ^
00:33:289 (1) - ^
00:38:763 (1) - ^ (suggestion)
00:42:267 (1) - ^
00:53:434 (1) - ^
01:08:542 (4) - Allign with ( 3)
01:10:732 (3) - Allign with (1)
01:12:265 (5) - End of slider
01:13:797 (1) - Delete new combo
01:16:425 (5) - ^ and make it straight Fits more.
01:26:278 (1) - Delete new combo
02:20:362 (1) - Allign with (3)
02:29:996 (1) - Make this slider 1/8
endings weird again.

Map needs some fixes but it is ok.
Topic Starter
Ayeen

wcx19911123 wrote:

HI
Here
If you like it , then I'll finish it
If not , then ignore
=w=
fix:
00:55:842 (48,49,50) dont overlapped
01:05:805 (89) put it on white tick
Dont forgot to put some break.
Everything else, that modders should do the work.

I like it so far. Wait till it finish, I recheck again and upload
Topic Starter
Ayeen

misja056 wrote:

[Soulles easy]
00:53:653 (1,2,3,4) - I think too much 1/2 sliders. Try some 1/1 sliders
01:58:465 (1) - Don't do this in a easy! :p
02:05:472 (1) - ^

[normal]
1 tip for an normal : Dont go over 7. But dont go too low! (1/2/3) I make combos accordance to song

00:07:233 (1) - Delete new comboNo
00:15:115 (1) - ^^
00:22:122 (1) - ^^
00:28:253 (3) - Allign with (2)Nazi, denied
00:36:136 (1) - Allign with (3). Delete new comboDenied
01:36:569 (1,2,3) - Allign with the previous one. Delete New ComboDenied
01:51:021 (1) - Delete new combodenied
01:53:648 (1) - ^^
02:04:597 (1) - ^^
02:10:290 (3) - Allign with end of slider (2)Denied
02:28:682 (3) - Allgin with (1)Denied
Weird end. Map it further or let it end : 02:28:901 (1) - Not gonna bother it

[hard]
Tip for hard. Go a little bit further than 3 everytime Go to 9/10.

00:07:233 (1) - Delete new combodenied
00:08:766 (1) - ^^
00:10:736 (1) - ^^
00:33:289 (1) - ^^
00:38:763 (1) - ^ (suggestion)^
00:42:267 (1) - ^^
00:53:434 (1) - ^^
01:08:542 (4) - Allign with ( 3)Does 1 grid matter?
01:10:732 (3) - Allign with (1)Denied
01:12:265 (5) - End of sliderI don't get what you mean
01:13:797 (1) - Delete new combodenied
01:16:425 (5) - ^ and make it straight Fits more.denied
01:26:278 (1) - Delete new comboOk
02:20:362 (1) - Allign with (3)denied
02:29:996 (1) - Make this slider 1/8It circles there and I don't want to make it 1/8
endings weird again.No changes

Map needs some fixes but it is ok.
Koro McAlpine
Hello!!!!

On Soul-less-ly Easy

00:09:094 (5): One grid right.
00:10:298 (1): One grid down.
00:38:763 (1): Snapping?

Well, I'll do Normal and Hard (Not Taiko.) next time whenever I get back to it.

Here's a star.
Thank you and good luck.
wcx19911123
Done
It's up to you to take it or not

Download: 1.rar
akrolsmir
General:
Offset +14 or so, to 2868. I'm hitting an average of 15 ms late, and listening to the song in .25x confirms that the metronome tick hits before the beat from the song. Do this after fixing everything, though, since my mods are for the timing before it was fixed.

Soul-Less-Ly easy: (nice title btw)
Aesthetic suggestions, no real problems.

00:24:312 (1,4) - Make the curve flatter and fit around (2,3)?
01:13:359 (1,2,3) - Imo would look better if 2 wasn't covered by 1, maybe like this:

or at least make 2 horizontally aligned with 1.
01:41:386 (2,3,4) - Maybe try this:

or this:

having just one wrapping around (3) while the other doesn't looks weird.

And some combos I think would fit the music better:
01:44:452 (1) - Not NC
01:44:890 (2) - NC
01:45:766 (1) - Not NC
01:48:393 (5) - NC
01:49:269 (2) - Not NC
01:51:897 (1) - NC
01:52:772 (2) - Not NC
01:55:400 (5) - NC
01:56:276 (1) - Not NC

I think this fits with the musical measure of this section better, b/c right now it seems one note off, especially with that short 2-note combo at 01:44:452 (1).

Normal:
00:28:253 (3) - Seems like an awkward angle, why not just make this a copy+flip of (2)?
00:51:901 (1,2,3,4) - Lacks a clear pattern, are these supposed to be right angular to each other? Looks like:

right now, try:

(you can do this by just copying (1) and rotating 90 degrees each time.
01:04:820 (4,5) - A bit cramped as it is, touching (3).
02:11:384- Kinda random space, try having a spinner from here to 02:12:917. You might have to move the next beat close to the center,though.
Has the same ending problem of just stopping as Hard, see below.

Hard:
00:08:109 (1) - Not new combo for consistency with 00:04:605 (1).
The song end is kinda incomplete, it feels like you just suddenly... stop playing while the music continues. Try mapping until the end, and maybe finishing with a spinner from 02:42:696 to 02:44:010 for the fading effect (a silenced one, of course). Or doing what Soul-Less did in easy, it feels like a finish there.

Nice melody, I liked the streams in Hard (b/c they weren't too fast). Starred!
mochi
[general]
Use background image with 4x3 size ratio. (ie. 800x600 or 1024x768)
Delete .osb file (I don't know why, ppl tell me to delete it too)

[soul-less-ly easy]
00:49:273 (2,3,4) - Might be too difficult for easy. Slow AR and default skin makes it look all cluttered.
00:51:025 (3,4,5) - ^

[normal]
ending seems abrupt... maybe end at spinner like in your easy diff? or map until the end and add a spinner as it fades out.

[hard]
01:23:432 (1,2,3,4) - These have same spacing as streams but they're 8th notes.
01:28:687 (7,1) - Spacing is too close.
01:44:233 (1,1) - This part seems a bit cruel. Short spinner and a note right afterwards. Can cause combobreak for ppl playing map first time. I suggest removing the spinner and adding note at 01:44:890.
02:13:136 (1) - Shows up under the combo counter

Same abrupt ending as normal. Read normal's suggestion.


Star~
Topic Starter
Ayeen

akrolsmir wrote:

General:
Offset +14 or so, to 2868. I'm hitting an average of 15 ms late, and listening to the song in .25x confirms that the metronome tick hits before the beat from the song. Do this after fixing everything, though, since my mods are for the timing before it was fixed.changed to2864

Soul-Less-Ly easy: (nice title btw)
Aesthetic suggestions, no real problems.

00:24:312 (1,4) - Make the curve flatter and fit around (2,3)?
01:13:359 (1,2,3) - Imo would look better if 2 wasn't covered by 1, maybe like this:

or at least make 2 horizontally aligned with 1.
01:41:386 (2,3,4) - Maybe try this:

or this:

having just one wrapping around (3) while the other doesn't looks weird.

And some combos I think would fit the music better:
01:44:452 (1) - Not NC
01:44:890 (2) - NC
01:45:766 (1) - Not NC
01:48:393 (5) - NC
01:49:269 (2) - Not NC
01:51:897 (1) - NC
01:52:772 (2) - Not NC
01:55:400 (5) - NC
01:56:276 (1) - Not NC

I think this fits with the musical measure of this section better, b/c right now it seems one note off, especially with that short 2-note combo at 01:44:452 (1).

Normal:
00:28:253 (3) - Seems like an awkward angle, why not just make this a copy+flip of (2)?I dont like copy n paste
00:51:901 (1,2,3,4) - Lacks a clear pattern, are these supposed to be right angular to each other? Looks like:Dont wanna bother it

right now, try:

(you can do this by just copying (1) and rotating 90 degrees each time.I dont copy n paste
01:04:820 (4,5) - A bit cramped as it is, touching (3).Fix
02:11:384- Kinda random space, try having a spinner from here to 02:12:917. You might have to move the next beat close to the center,though.Ok
Has the same ending problem of just stopping as Hard, see below.extended

Hard:
00:08:109 (1) - Not new combo for consistency with 00:04:605 (1).
The song end is kinda incomplete, it feels like you just suddenly... stop playing while the music continues. Try mapping until the end, and maybe finishing with a spinner from 02:42:696 to 02:44:010 for the fading effect (a silenced one, of course). Or doing what Soul-Less did in easy, it feels like a finish there.extended

Nice melody, I liked the streams in Hard (b/c they weren't too fast) Like I said in description, I made for my streaming training purpose, Too fast will become steep learning curve for me :P. Starred!
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