1. Extra (4,89 stars, 360 notes)

ChrisARuiz wrote:

ok good start, please go through with this map. id help but im not the best at beatmap making. nonetheless, you had a great start for easy. goodluck

EbibereIsStrong wrote:

Ok ce l'abbiamo fatta.

XDDDDDDDDDDDDD

16:53 Manu028: l'hai promesso
16:53 Manu028: ho lo screen
16:53 Manu028: MODDA XD
16:53 EbibereIsStrong: oggi
16:54 EbibereIsStrong: come lo vuo
16:54 EbibereIsStrong: vuoi*
16:54 EbibereIsStrong: full nazi
16:54 EbibereIsStrong: o normale
16:54 Manu028: cosa
16:54 EbibereIsStrong: il mod
16:54 Manu028: full nazi
16:54 Manu028: devi distruggermi
16:54 EbibereIsStrong: Ok then
16:55 Manu028: ok io aspetto
16:55 Manu028: in un giorno ho recuperato due mod
16:56 EbibereIsStrong: te lo faccio irc
16:56 EbibereIsStrong: o direttamente sul forum
16:56 Manu028: sul forum cosi ti do il kudosu
16:57 EbibereIsStrong: è uguale irc lo posto comunque
16:57 EbibereIsStrong: intendo in chat oppure post diretta
16:57 Manu028: ah allora fai irc
16:57 EbibereIsStrong: diretto*
16:57 Manu028: e poi posti
16:57 EbibereIsStrong: OK THEN
16:57 EbibereIsStrong: 00:01:724 (6) - Sarebbe meglio che mettessi uno slider come hai fatto su 00:00:518 (1) - imo
16:58 EbibereIsStrong: 00:03:276 (3) - forse se allunghi questo al tick bianco e levi 00:03:621 (4) -
16:58 EbibereIsStrong: flowa meglio
16:59 EbibereIsStrong: 00:04:483 (2) - same qua cosi continui il flow
16:59 EbibereIsStrong: 00:05:000 (3,4,5,6) - strutturali meglio
17:00 EbibereIsStrong: like fai che la distanza tra 00:05:000 (3,5) - e 00:05:173 (4,6) - sia simili o uguale
17:00 EbibereIsStrong: cosi i bn non ti rompono gli zebedei
17:00 EbibereIsStrong: simile*
17:01 Manu028: fin qui ci sono
17:02 EbibereIsStrong: 00:15:538 (6,1) -
17:02 EbibereIsStrong: se li metti vicini come 00:14:338 (3,1) -
17:03 EbibereIsStrong: secondo me gira meglio
17:03 EbibereIsStrong: 00:21:367 (2,1) - spaceali
17:04 EbibereIsStrong: il ritmo è uguale e hai distanziato tutta la sezione
17:04 EbibereIsStrong: 00:19:652 (1,2,1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2) -
17:04 EbibereIsStrong: same qua come prima
17:04 EbibereIsStrong: se metti 00:25:310 (3) -
17:05 EbibereIsStrong: stackato con 1
17:05 EbibereIsStrong: e ti inventi qualcosa flowa meglio
17:05 EbibereIsStrong: stackato con 00:25:652 (1) - *
17:05 EbibereIsStrong: 00:30:452 (1) - sistema i timing point
17:06 EbibereIsStrong: points*
17:06 EbibereIsStrong: same qua
17:06 EbibereIsStrong: mettili sui tick bianchi
17:07 EbibereIsStrong: 00:41:424 (5) - same
17:07 EbibereIsStrong: perché hai messo i timing points cosi strani?
17:08 Manu028: idk
17:08 Manu028: era la prima volta che sperimentavo
17:08 Manu028: aggiusto tutti quelli di li
17:08 Manu028: ho capito
17:09 EbibereIsStrong: 00:49:652 (5) - nc
17:09 EbibereIsStrong: 00:49:995 (9) - ^
17:09 Manu028: nc = new combo?
17:09 EbibereIsStrong: yes
17:10 EbibereIsStrong: 00:50:510 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2) - not sure di questa scelta di ritmo
17:10 EbibereIsStrong: but w/e preferenze personali
17:10 EbibereIsStrong: puoi anche lasciarla cosi
17:10 EbibereIsStrong: è mappa su qualcosa quindi è ok immagino
17:11 Manu028: ye suona male anche a me tbh
17:11 EbibereIsStrong: 00:58:395 (1) - da qui
17:11 EbibereIsStrong: su sta sezione hai posizionato gli slider sul tick rosso
17:11 EbibereIsStrong: imo se li metti sul bianco ed evidenzi il main beat
17:12 EbibereIsStrong: suona meglio
17:12 EbibereIsStrong: 00:58:395 (1,1) - questi 2
17:13 EbibereIsStrong: li metti seguendo il main come hai fatto qua 00:58:395 (1,1,1,3) -
17:14 EbibereIsStrong: 01:06:281 (1,2,3) - spacealo dallo stream Q_Q
17:14 EbibereIsStrong: flowa malissimo se lo stacchi e lasci la pausetta
17:14 EbibereIsStrong: staccalo un po
17:14 EbibereIsStrong: non esageratamente
17:15 EbibereIsStrong: diciamo che in quest'ultima sezione anche gli slider sono un po messi a caso
17:15 EbibereIsStrong: prova a fixarti il flow generale della seconda parte seguendo un ritmo più omogeneo
17:16 EbibereIsStrong: 01:17:039 (2,4) - 01:16:797 (1,3) -
17:16 EbibereIsStrong: stesso discorso di struttura di prima
17:16 EbibereIsStrong: cerca di farli simili o uguali come spacing l'uno dall'altro
17:17 EbibereIsStrong: 01:17:524 (4) - sto break è discutibile
17:17 EbibereIsStrong: però ci può stare
17:18 EbibereIsStrong: OK
17:18 EbibereIsStrong: è tutto my friend.
17:18 Manu028: ABBIAMO FINITO
17:18 Manu028: OWO
17:18 Manu028: ora la uppo
17:18 Manu028: e la provi
17:18 EbibereIsStrong: non so essere estremamente nazi
17:18 Manu028: e mi dici se ho inteso quello che volevi dirmi
17:18 EbibereIsStrong: quindi te l'ho chiesto sperando mi dicessi di no.

LowComboFC wrote:

Modding by request!

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1. 00:02:759 (5) - Shouldn't this slider be two circles like you did here 00:01:380 (4,5) - ?
2. 00:05:899 - I think you should follow the vocal here as it is quite strong, put a circle or something
3. 00:06:110 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,1,2,1,1,2,3,1) - .. this section. I understand you want to follow the background sounds but the way this was done reminds of a 2012 map. In cases like these, do not follow the background sounds if they're spammed 1/4 like the ones we have here. Instead, just follow the vocals with 1/2 sliders and circles, with less object density than you did on the more intense parts.
4. 00:12:624 (6,7) - Should be a slider instead as it's a held vocal just like 00:12:967 (1) - etc.
5. 00:17:081 (1,2,3,1,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - Whatever I said above.
6. 00:23:595 (6,7) - Make these two a slider as well, for the same reasons.
7. 00:29:081 (6) - I think this should be represented differently than the other sliders as it's a vocal that holds two syllabus, so make it two circles.
8. 00:29:767 (1) - 00:32:852 (1) - 00:35:595 (1) - I am certain you didn't mean to NC these, right? There's no reason to NC them at all.
9. 00:30:452 (1) - Cool concept you have there but if you want to keep it make it 3/4, not 1/1. That's because its sliderend lands on a big white tick, that certainly asks to be clickable. So just make it a 3/4 slider and a circle right after landing on the big white tick. Same goes for 00:33:195 (1) - 00:35:938 (1) -
10. 00:37:652 (5) - Should NC this instead (and then remove the NC from 00:37:995 (1) - and 00:38:510 (1) - and 00:38:852 (1) - ) as it's the start of the measure and I don't get why the other ones I just mentioned are NCed anyway...
11. 00:41:424 (1) - whatever I said above.
12. 00:47:252 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Nice stream! (just a compliment xd)
13. 00:54:624 (1) - remove NC.
14. 00:57:710 (1,1) - ^
15. 00:58:910 (1) - ^
16. 00:59:595 (4) - add one here instead
17. 01:00:281 (1) - remove NC
18. 01:01:652 (1) - ^
19. 01:02:338 (5) - add NC
20. 01:02:510 (1) - remove NC
21. 01:03:710 (7) - add NC
22. 01:12:967 (1) - remove NC
23. 01:13:309 (3) - add NC
24. 01:14:338 (1) - remove NC
25. Those were some NC suggestions you should take into consideration. Now I will mention other things about the kiai you should do after you fixed the NCs.
26. 01:01:481 (5,6) - crtl+g these rhythms (and move them appropriately) so the held vocal is indicated with a slider.
27. 01:02:852 (4,5) - Same goes here.
28. Allow me not to wallmod anymore lol, same goes for respective sections ^ I think you get it now.

Hope my mod helped, good luck!

TheKoala wrote:

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00:00:518 (1,2) - this flows awkwardly - try moving 1 so that 2 would be on the slider's curve if it was extended further
00:00:518 (1,2,3,4,5) - would look cleaner without the slight overlaps
00:04:138 (6,1) - this very small spacing compared to everything else makes 1 stand out as it cuts the flow of the pattern, making it emphasized even tho thats not suggested in the song. move 00:04:311 (1,2) to around x:248 y:290 to follow the patterns flow (rearrange the next pattern afterwards so its not overlapped)
00:06:624 (4) - stronger sound is on the slider end: bad rhythm, try a pattern where the slider starts on 00:06:795
00:23:424 (5,1) - spacing should be a lot bigger - 1 is quite a strong sound and having this tiny spacing seems counter intuitive and plays out badly
00:30:452 (1) - (and other SV changes in this part) nothing in the song suggests reducing the SV here, especially not from 1x to 0.5x. you should probably just keep the SV at 1x
Spacing emphasis: your jump patterns don't really follow spacing emphasis (meaning strong sounds=bigger distance between notes) for example 00:41:938 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the spacing between 1 and 2 is huge but 2 is a weaker note (doesn't even have a guitar note on it) while the spacing between 2 and 3 is small but 3 is much stronger than 2. usually the stronger notes are on the white ticks (not always the case) and the map should reflect how strong a note is in the song by the relative spacing between the notes. making the distance between 1 and 2 smaller and the one between 2 and 3 bigger would make much more sense. this can be applied anywhere on the map, not only here but I won't list them all. this is just something that u always have to think about while mapping
00:44:167 (4) - ctrl+g to keep circular flow
00:46:567 (1) - awkward flow with the overlap, move it somewhere else
00:56:852 (1,2) - the small spacing between these breaks the flow of the pattern, move 2 somewhere further away
01:07:481 (1,2) - ^
ok thats enough don't wanna overwhelm you right now
overall it's not bad, but a lot of work could be done to improve
good luck

Nostalgic wrote:

yo m4m

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1. 00:07:508 // 00:08:881 mssing note. likewise, 00:08:452 // 00:08:538 // 00:08:623 (3) - should be a triples well i once mapped this section like you are telling me, but a previous mod told me it looked like 2012 mapping so i tried to focus more on vocals, won't change it anymore cuz i like it the way it is now
2. 00:13:765 (6) - place it a lil bit further away from 00:13:422 (5) . if not players may mistake it as an 1/4 snap agreed, fixed
3. Again, 00:19:423 // 00:19:508 // 00:19:594 (3) - should be a triples and more. not gonna repeat. same as above
4. 00:29:881 (1) - 00:35:366 (1) - unnecessary nc fixed
5. 00:34:338 (1,2,3,1) - their spacing should be ascending, just like what you did in the previous iterations hmm, maybe you're right, i'll find a solution
6. 00:37:766 (3,4) - their spacing looks exactly the same as 00:37:423 (2,3) . Players won't be able to tell whether it's 1/2 or 1/1 snap. The easiet solution would be nc 00:37:938 (4) put a nc
7. 00:39:819 (1,2,1,1) - the spacing issue like i mentioned above. also why 00:40:502 (1,1) - nc? idk, this spacing looks fine to me, there is no change here the sliders are all 1/2 snapped (fixed new combos thanks)
8. 00:49:426 (1) - a long and slow slider here fits better than a break Agree, added a long slider
9. 01:07:264 (2,3,4) - 180 degree flow... Fixed
   
   I guess that's it

pretty busy irl recently. don't think i have the time to do a gd for you, sorry... Don't worry it's ok ^^

anyways GL THANKS ^^

1. Why do you use NC so disorderly? Try to make them only at big white tick.
2. AR 9? Change to 9.2 → 9.5 and let Insane 9.0 please.
3. Don't overmap with circles. Such as 00:00:544 (2) -, 00:01:915 (3) -, 00:02:686 (2) -... No special sound happens there. If you want to overmap, use slider end instead. Clicking a note while there is no sound but hitsound is awkward.
4. 00:32:623 (4) - This slider look different from the 3 sliders before it.
5. 00:37:423 - Should be a stream start here.
6. 01:14:121 (1,2,3) - Don't start a new timing section with circles. Player can't do it accurately. Make them slider than player can feel the melody first.
7. 01:17:062 - Add a spinner here and end it at 01:19:882 -

noz1995 wrote:

Hello. M4M from your queue: hi

1. Why do you use NC so disorderly? Try to make them only at big white tick. what? they seem good to me
2. AR 9? Change to 9.2 → 9.5 and let Insane 9.0 please. I'd rather not, the bpm isn't high enough and the density is good as it is now
3. Don't overmap with circles. Such as 00:00:544 (2) -, 00:01:915 (3) -, 00:02:686 (2) -... No special sound happens there. If you want to overmap, use slider end instead. Clicking a note while there is no sound but hitsound is awkward. Hmmm.. I can CLEARLY hear the sounds here, what are you saying lol..
4. 00:32:623 (4) - This slider look different from the 3 sliders before it. fixed
5. 00:37:423 - Should be a stream start here. Ehh.. no (?) I think a triple fits better and follow the sound good enough, may change it later
6. 01:14:121 (1,2,3) - Don't start a new timing section with circles. Player can't do it accurately. Make them slider than player can feel the melody first. It's intented for ruining the acc
7. 01:17:062 - Add a spinner here and end it at 01:19:882 - fixed

Because you do not have your own mapping style which can be improved, so that the diff is quite chaostic. This map need a lot of improvement, or a remap, to get a more detailed mod. Good luck! thanks
Otherwise, I am bad at extra diff, so I am unable to tell which is bad flow, which is too harrd. Sorrydw about that

Origuon wrote:

Hi from m4m queue
00:26:953 the spacing is way to big Agree
00:27:481 (1) - why is this unsnapped ehm.. it is snapped but on the next red tick
00:54:218 (1,2,3,4,5) - this stream shape and spacing isn't good the stream should be less spaced Nope it is intented to be like this
00:46:691 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - i think this stream is overmapped as fuck something like this should be better http://imgur.com/a/YUKTh (dont pay attention to the placement just watch the timing bar Definetly no. I can clearly hear the sound of the drums in the song and i'm following them, not the snares
01:01:237 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... nknown.png something like this should be better Errm.. Maybe (?) i think you're right but i wanted to stop the flow with that patttern so i could start the flow for the next stream, may change it if others complain about it
01:07:608 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - the music still going on the same it doesn't amplify so i think those jumps shouldn't change their spacing Fixed

Good luck for improving your map,i love the song maybe i'll add a GD later I appreciate that