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TtmnZk
02:54:950 (1,2,3,4) - 这串ds怎么减了。

06:16:108 (1) - 往左移一点,钝角有点小卡手

07:26:236 (3) - 滑条尾巴加点音效?原曲有轻微鼓擦,建议whistle,改的话别忘了后面

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EncoreW

TT Mouse wrote:

02:54:950 (1,2,3,4) - 这串ds怎么减了。 感觉前面这么大一个间距的滑条之后可以放一个间距小一点的串缓一下

06:16:108 (1) - 往左移一点,钝角有点小卡手

07:26:236 (3) - 滑条尾巴加点音效?原曲有轻微鼓擦,建议whistle,改的话别忘了后面 大湿说不需要

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niubi
Senery
Hi, M4M from my queue

[General]
  1. I feel like the HP is a bit low, while playtesting my HP didnt go down at all, even tho i did miss a couple times.
  2. MA says that soft-sliderslide2.wav, soft-sliderslide3.wav and soft-sliderslide5.wav are unused, you can delete these if its true
  3. you should lower the stack leniency to 5 or 6 so you avoid unnecessary stacks like this: 02:19:450 (2,2) -
[Edema Ruh]
  1. 00:09:978 (1,2,3) - i feel like that this rhythm: https://puu.sh/A8Sfu/3deb2a77bc.png fits a lot better with the vocals then the 1 beat slider
  2. 00:35:379 (1) - maybe make this 0.9x sv for a more graduate increase?
  3. 00:41:510 (1,2,3,4) - suggest doing this like so: https://puu.sh/A8SkT/e71c427075.png so you emphasize the drum on (3) the same as (1)
  4. 00:44:138 (1,2,3,4) - you should increase the spacing here a bit because of the sound change
  5. 01:04:503 (2,3,4) - space these a bit more, it has a stronger sound than 01:04:065 (4,5,1) - so its a bit weird that these 2 have the same spacing
[Planet Hell]
  1. 02:36:868 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - why are these spaced differently? i dont really see anything different between the 2, same with the slider on (5)
[Alpenglow]
  1. 03:45:485 (2) - maybe space this out a bit more because of the drum on it? same for 03:46:093 (2,3) -
  2. 03:59:674 (1,2,3,4) - i think its better to position these like so: https://puu.sh/A8SHa/ce6c35bf26.png then you emphasize the white ticks poperly because right now it seems you try to emphasize the red ticks with how they are positioned
[Ever Dream]
  1. 04:52:760 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - graduate increase in spacing because of the volume increase here?
  2. 04:55:195 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - same for this?
  3. 05:25:217 (1,2,3,4) - why do you give (1) so much spacing even tho (3) is a much stronger sound?
  4. 05:34:928 (1) - this really isnt that strong of a note, so this should have a much lesser spacing then the notes before it
[Bye Bye Beautiful]
  1. 06:27:865 (3,4,3,4) - you should make this the same as 06:27:459 (1,2,1,2) - because (4) really doesnt have a strong sound at all, espacially how much you spaced 06:28:067 (4) - from (3) really isnt right, you can even make (3) a slider
  2. 06:31:108 (1,2,3) - why is this a triple? there is no sound on the blue tick and its seems the same as 06:30:297 (4,5) - these patterns
[She Is My Sin]
  1. 07:23:884 (1,1,1,1,1) - i dont think NC'ing these all is necessary because there is no real change in sv or way of mapping thats needs a visual queue
  2. 07:37:802 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - you should make this stream so it has a bit more curvation
  3. 08:02:700 (1,2,3,4) - why does this part have more spacing than 08:01:915 (1,2,3,4) - ? if anything you should make 08:02:307 (1,2,3,4) - have more spacing because its the one that is different from the rest
  4. 08:04:562 (5,6) - fix stack
[The Greatest Show On Earth]
  1. 09:24:720 - you should silence this spinners end
    Full version when :^)
[Last Ride of the Day]
  1. 11:06:830 (1,1,1,1) - same on She Is My Sin i dont think these need to be all NC'ed, except for the first one i didnt mention because of the SV increase
    God i love this song, amazing
Hope it helps! The songs i didnt mention were fine, good luck! :)
Topic Starter
EncoreW

Senery wrote:

Hi, M4M from my queue

[General]
  1. I feel like the HP is a bit low, while playtesting my HP didnt go down at all, even tho i did miss a couple times. i think hp5.2 is not too low for a 11min marathon...
  2. you should lower the stack leniency to 5 or 6 so you avoid unnecessary stacks like this: 02:19:450 (2,2) - i adjusted this to 5 but it still stack...i think it doesn't matter to read this stack...
[Edema Ruh]
  1. 00:09:978 (1,2,3) - i feel like that this rhythm: https://puu.sh/A8Sfu/3deb2a77bc.png fits a lot better with the vocals then the 1 beat slider i dont wanna 00:10:854 (3) - this whistle appeared at a slider's end, i think i need a circle to reflect this whistle
  2. 00:35:379 (1) - maybe make this 0.9x sv for a more graduate increase? it works
  3. 00:41:510 (1,2,3,4) - suggest doing this like so: https://puu.sh/A8SkT/e71c427075.png so you emphasize the drum on (3) the same as (1) i followed piano here...
  4. 00:44:138 (1,2,3,4) - you should increase the spacing here a bit because of the sound change yes i have been increase this spacing i think
  5. 01:04:503 (2,3,4) - space these a bit more, it has a stronger sound than 01:04:065 (4,5,1) - so its a bit weird that these 2 have the same spacingi think it doesn't matter for a triple's spacing, because 01:04:065 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - it's continuity, so in most case i will not change this scaping because it is more smooth when playing imo
[Planet Hell]
  1. 02:36:868 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - why are these spaced differently? i dont really see anything different between the 2, same with the slider on (5)02:38:306 (10,1) - this spacing is bigger than 02:36:662 (7,1) - so i use bigger ds in stream too
[Alpenglow]
  1. 03:45:485 (2) - maybe space this out a bit more because of the drum on it? same for 03:46:093 (2,3) - ok fixed
  2. 03:59:674 (1,2,3,4) - i think its better to position these like so: https://puu.sh/A8SHa/ce6c35bf26.png then you emphasize the white ticks poperly because right now it seems you try to emphasize the red ticks with how they are positioned 03:59:471 (3,2) - this two stack looks not good, i don't like this stack, i think pattern now is more smooth to play
[Ever Dream]
  1. 04:52:760 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - graduate increase in spacing because of the volume increase here? ok fixed
  2. 04:55:195 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - same for this? i don't like incarese spacing when 1/4 stream, 1/2 is ok
  3. 05:25:217 (1,2,3,4) - why do you give (1) so much spacing even tho (3) is a much stronger sound? according to music, 05:25:419 (2,3,4) - is a pattern i think but 05:25:217 (1) - not belong to this pattern, so i fall apart 05:25:217 (1) - from 05:25:419 (2,3,4) -
  4. 05:34:928 (1) - this really isnt that strong of a note, so this should have a much lesser spacing then the notes before itok fixed
[Bye Bye Beautiful]
  1. 06:27:865 (3,4,3,4) - you should make this the same as 06:27:459 (1,2,1,2) - because (4) really doesnt have a strong sound at all, espacially how much you spaced 06:28:067 (4) - from (3) really isnt right, you can even make (3) a slider ok changed a little
  2. 06:31:108 (1,2,3) - why is this a triple? there is no sound on the blue tick and its seems the same as 06:30:297 (4,5) - these patterns 06:31:108 (1,2,3) - vocal here is "just to", 3 tones
[She Is My Sin]
  1. 07:23:884 (1,1,1,1,1) - i dont think NC'ing these all is necessary because there is no real change in sv or way of mapping thats needs a visual queue 5 slider's start ia the same strength, and they are all strong, so i think it worth to use a nc
  2. 07:37:802 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - you should make this stream so it has a bit more curvation 07:37:802 (2,3) - 07:37:998 (4,5,6,7,1) - this two drumbeat is not the same, have a lillte difference, so i set this shape a lillte bent
  3. 08:02:700 (1,2,3,4) - why does this part have more spacing than 08:01:915 (1,2,3,4) - ? if anything you should make 08:02:307 (1,2,3,4) - have more spacing because its the one that is different from the rest fixed but i still think it doesn't matter...
  4. 08:04:562 (5,6) - fix stack stacked
[The Greatest Show On Earth]
  1. 09:24:720 - you should silence this spinners end ok fixed
    Full version when :^) maybe 2019 idk lol
[Last Ride of the Day]
  1. 11:06:830 (1,1,1,1) - same on She Is My Sin i dont think these need to be all NC'ed, except for the first one i didnt mention because of the SV increase
    God i love this song, amazing
Hope it helps! The songs i didnt mention were fine, good luck! :)
THX A LOT
Topic Starter
EncoreW
@Senery
soft sliderslide3 is used at 05:46:918 -
soft sliderslide2 is used at 07:26:236 -
soft sliderslide5 is not appeared, i will delete this hitsound
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smallboat
[We Were Here]

沒有應用到的音效 : soft-sliderslide2.wav
和 soft-sliderslide3.wav

音效小於5ms (不能使用的) :
soft-hitfinish5.wav

05:50:972 (3) - 這兒SB的圖片似乎有點提早跳出下一句歌詞?
06:01:513 (1) - 這兒也是 (除此之外其它的圖片都看起來都沒事))
05:21:162 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 跟背景音樂比較這有點太響了?
08:10:345 (1,2) - 這兒用whistle音效表達背景音效似乎不太適合
08:13:090 (2,3,4,5) - 同05:21:162
pw384

smallboat wrote:

[We Were Here]

沒有應用到的音效 : soft-sliderslide2.wav :arrow: 07:26:236 (3) - appears here, probably it is a bug with AIBat
和 soft-sliderslide3.wav :arrow: 05:46:919 (1) -


音效小於5ms (不能使用的) :
soft-hitfinish5.wav :arrow: 也是检查器出bug了大概,因为从goldwave看,soft-hitfinish5.wav实际长度3.63796秒

05:21:162 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 跟背景音樂比較這有點太響了? :arrow: 好的,大概改成45%
08:10:345 (1,2) - 這兒用whistle音效表達背景音效似乎不太適合 :arrow: 有意强调,感觉用whistle听得要更带感一些
08:13:090 (2,3,4,5) - 同05:21:162 :arrow: ok
thank you!!!

@encorew:
音效部分改这些:
05:21:161 - 这里绿线的音量调成45%
08:13:090 - 这里加一条绿线,音量调成55%

@imouto
SB里的文件夹不要用unicode字符,在我这里看全是乱码,而且那个文件夹下面的图片都读不出来
Fushimi Rio
那两句我想让他在整小节的时候切换下一句 就不改了
文件夹名改了
smallboat
Check mapset and storyboard are okay, so give it Bubbled

(Thanks Fushimi Rio check)
Sieg
hey there, recheck

there are bunch of files unused
sb\bg\bg\alpenglow.png
sb\bg\bg\edema ruh.png
sb\sb\#4 alpenglow\D.png
sb\sb\#8 the greatest show on earth\8.png

also there is delay in soft-hitfinish5.wav here's version without http://puu.sh/AlroI/00271e4e39.wav

call me to repair
Sieg
repaired
smallboat
Check okay, Qualified
pw384
gratz!!
Topic Starter
EncoreW

pw384 wrote:

gratz!!
Yumeno Himiko
goubi
Topic Starter
EncoreW

Yumeno Himiko wrote:

goubi
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Fushimi Rio
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Mirash
00:39:759 (1,1,1) - no feedback on those downbeat drums feels so cringe lol, could be nice if you drum sampleset them
02:16:879 (3) - missing whistle
02:22:236 (4) - you seem to be following guitar with drum sampleset here, so placing drum sampleset on 02:22:665 (5) - would be nice, right now it sounds empty
03:24:539 (1) - place at least drum sampleset on it
06:53:202 (2) - this should be a drum finish and not a soft whistle, just listen to that drum. also 06:53:405 (3) - 06:54:216 (1) - 06:54:824 (3) - and 06:54:013 (3) - could be drum clap for some rhythm variety. anyway look up this end of section i think it really needs stronger hitsounding feedback
11:06:830 (1,1) - 11:07:571 (1,1) - stacks are broken but thats whatever just pointing out

aside from section on 7 minute this is a good map
PandaHero
Hitsounds assurance team in action
Topic Starter
EncoreW

Mirash wrote:

00:39:759 (1,1,1) - no feedback on those downbeat drums feels so cringe lol, could be nice if you drum sampleset them
02:16:879 (3) - missing whistle
02:22:236 (4) - you seem to be following guitar with drum sampleset here, so placing drum sampleset on 02:22:665 (5) - would be nice, right now it sounds empty
03:24:539 (1) - place at least drum sampleset on it
06:53:202 (2) - this should be a drum finish and not a soft whistle, just listen to that drum. also 06:53:405 (3) - 06:54:216 (1) - 06:54:824 (3) - and 06:54:013 (3) - could be drum clap for some rhythm variety. anyway look up this end of section i think it really needs stronger hitsounding feedback
11:06:830 (1,1) - 11:07:571 (1,1) - stacks are broken but thats whatever just pointing out

aside from section on 7 minute this is a good map
why not post your mod before this mapset qualified...
Shovan
Just wanted to ask you if there was any reason behind 06:31:209 (2) - ? It seems to me to only be there to confuse players. Barely any notable sound and the similar vocal sections before (example 06:29:486 (1,2) - ) were always done with 2 circles and not 3...

Aside from that it's a rather nice map and thanks for sharing the Nightwish love OwO
xdbaka
It is so fun to play :3
Topic Starter
EncoreW

Shovan wrote:

Just wanted to ask you if there was any reason behind 06:31:209 (2) - ? It seems to me to only be there to confuse players. Barely any notable sound and the similar vocal sections before (example 06:29:486 (1,2) - ) were always done with 2 circles and not 3...

Aside from that it's a rather nice map and thanks for sharing the Nightwish love OwO
because of vocal
Shovan

EncoreW wrote:

because of vocal

That's what i meant with the comparison to other sections. There are clear vocals on the white and red tick of that section, just like for other vocals, but the blue tick is barely notable.

06:24:216 (1,2) - The word is "Listen". White Tick is "Lis", Blue Tick is a held "s" leading into the next syllable. Red tick is "-ten".
06:29:486 (1,2) - White Tick is the impact of the word "Did". The second half of the word (the second "d") is already on the blue tick. The red Tick is "We".
06:31:108 (1,2,3) - White Tick is the impact of the word "Just". The second half of the word (the held "s" that leads in to the next word "t") is already on the blue tick. The red Tick is "to"

Those three sections have the exact same vocal structure to me, but are mapped differently. It is fine to do it with 3 notes, but it is weird because it is done with 2 notes before.

So new question: What is different at 06:31:108 (1,2,3) - that made you put 3 circles? For me the vocals have the same structure.
Topic Starter
EncoreW

Shovan wrote:

EncoreW wrote:

because of vocal
That's what i meant with the comparison to other sections. There are clear vocals on the white and red tick of that section, just like for other vocals, but the blue tick is barely notable.

06:24:216 (1,2) - The word is "Listen". White Tick is "Lis", Blue Tick is a held "s" leading into the next syllable. Red tick is "-ten".
06:29:486 (1,2) - White Tick is the impact of the word "Did". The second half of the word (the second "d") is already on the blue tick. The red Tick is "We".
06:31:108 (1,2,3) - White Tick is the impact of the word "Just". The second half of the word (the held "s" that leads in to the next word "t") is already on the blue tick. The red Tick is "to"

Those three sections have the exact same vocal structure to me, but are mapped differently. It is fine to do it with 3 notes, but it is weird because it is done with 2 notes before.

So new question: What is different at 06:31:108 (1,2,3) - that made you put 3 circles? For me the vocals have the same structure.
06:31:108 (1) - ju 06:31:209 (2) - s 06:31:311 (3) - t to
pw384
Hey men mapping is a perceptual activity of human being so it's not a necessity to be picky on things related to such trivial consistency
Shovan

EncoreW wrote:

06:31:108 (1) - ju 06:31:209 (2) - s 06:31:311 (3) - t to


Yeah that is what I said as well. Stil doesnt really explain why it is done differently from the rest to me, but I guess this is the full reasoning then.

pw384 wrote:

Hey men mapping is a perceptual activity of human being so it's not a necessity to be picky on things related to such trivial consistency


If you think the existance of a hitobject is trivial then I guess we will never share the same opinion. That being said I'm fully aware that mapping has a lot to do with individual perception
of a song and all I did above was state my perception of the song.
pw384

Shovan wrote:

pw384 wrote:

Hey men mapping is a perceptual activity of human being so it's not a necessity to be picky on things related to such trivial consistency
If you think the existance of a hitobject is trivial then I guess we will never share the same opinion. That being said I'm fully aware that mapping has a lot to do with individual perception
of a song and all I did above was state my perception of the song.
Yeah so it is your perception. Anyway you can map your own if you are not quite satisfied with an existing version! :)
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