MrDorian wrote:

i krótki modzik
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

modren's little cymbals

00:23:198 (23198|2) - ten dźwięk akurat się kończy z 00:24:865 (24865|5) - Faktycznie XD
00:28:200 - 00:30:423 - tutaj przydałaby się notka, dźwięk jest na tyle wyraźny Zauważ że w tym diffie nie mapowałem backgrond soundów
00:34:870 (34870|4) - przesunąłbym do 4 00:33:758 (33758|8,34314|5,34870|4,35426|3,35982|0) - Tutaj dałem taki patternik D: zmienianie tego po prostu zniszczy ten malutki pattern
00:35:426 (35426|3) - do 2/3, bo dźwięk jest niższy niż dwójka później ^, niby fakt faktem, ale nie muszę dokładnie mapować pod pitch XD
00:35:982 (35982|0,35982|1) - jak zaakceptowałeś powyższe, to 00:35:982 (35982|0,35982|1) - 13 nie zaakceptowałem powyższych, ale coś z tym zrobiłem

modren's cymbals

00:25:421 (25421|0) - może notkę dodatkową tu? ;c Niskość tego dźwięku jest taka, że daje wrażenie dwóch dźwięków

Bathory Witch wrote:

na prośbę Krfawego moduję nowy poziom

Dorian:
Nie żeby coś ale to nierankingowe żeby twój diff był inny i miał 108 bpmów jak reszta ma 107.95.
00:19:864 (2,1) - nawet jak będzie dystans trochę skopany (ale to nieważne XD dbam, żeby dystanse były takie same/podobne) to weź spróbuj obrócić slajder tak żeby blankietował z dwójką, będzie ładnie
00:45:431 (1) - a z tego może zrób taki slajder coś podobny do 00:47:655 (1) - oki o tego i tych wszystkich innych bo tak się dziwnie gra i wygląda też nie teges, a przy okazji można by wtedy postawić w bok na prawo trochę to 00:46:542 (2) - bo tak zachacza niemalże o jedynkę następną i tak boli trochę mnie nie boli, nie wygląda źle
00:52:101 (1,2,3) - dziku, daj spinner zamiast tego wszystkiego bo nie słychać tych kółek ._. .z.

1. Metadata source?
2. Preview point is unsnapped, is that intentional? You can have it like that since it's not unrankable and sounds good, but I'm just telling you in case it wasn't intentional~
3. Offset should be 965 so downbeats fall where they belong. It doesn't matter having a couple of notes before the offset, so don't worry about that~ After changing it you'll see how NCs make more sense

1. 00:17:641 (8) - The tail is notably way stronger than the head, it should be clickable to give it the emphasis it deserves~ Quick fix: just replace the slider with two circles :v
   Nothing else to add, but those long combos aren't normal to see them in this kind of diffs, you may wanna make them shorter~

1. 00:13:749 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - You may wanna add a slider somewhere in between this bunch of circles, feels boring to just go click click click click click and no hold for a moment~

Julie wrote:

[Durian] memes

Uncheck widescreen support

Dorian, I'm going to let this pass for the moment, but I still want to mention it for your future map.
1st you did a good jobs on spacing part like this 00:00:687 (2,1) - to put more accent on the last notes. The problem with the spacing is, when it come to stuff like that 00:02:632 (3,1,2) - , spacing does look alike, yes this is supose to be a hard, but the star rating is so low, probably a lots of low tier rank will try it, and they might get confuse here. Welp it help people to learn how to follow song and read AR I guess.

Another tips for future map, pretty sure you can make some cooler stuff for like part like this 00:09:858 (1,2,3) - , you can feel that the song is really different at 00:09:858 - to 00:10:969 - , and 00:10:969 - to 00:11:525 - , while the spacing are exactly the same (0.9x) and feel the same http://puu.sh/s17lT/d2887660bb.jpg.
For example, in mania, you would probably put 2 and 3 on the same column, so in std, you can also stack it !! Anyway there no issue, is just some few tips for future map. I know I can stack them, but I had no idea how to not ruin the pattern

00:35:425 (2) - Hmm, this might be personal, but I'm pretty sure you're trying to start doing different thing, that's why 00:35:981 - isn't a tapable note anymore. I kinda don'T really like this even if the rhythm is simple, and player won't lose the rhythm or consistency, there is other way to make it different without making important sound at the end of a slider. My suggestion will make you change pattern a bit so is really your choice, so far there is no reverse slider, and I feel like a reverse slider on this one 00:34:313 (1) - might fit, and can make a tapable note at 00:35:981 - .

00:46:541 (2,1) - It doesn't ruin gameplay, but I'm nazi modder xP. Pretty sure you can at least move a bit so these 2 don't touch. Check out how it look in-game : http://puu.sh/s18xr/f35e346814.jpg hope it's fixed ;w;

Krfawy wrote:

Mean fudges are mean. :V

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Krfawy wrote:

00:05:412 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Since when did squares forms become to be random, especially when they are easy to follow and they don't make anything scary to the song? LOL, okay: I've made the pattern to highlight the particular cymbals + it flows nicely and the pattern is predictable for noobs. This copy&paste pattern looks nice and polished and it plays good and is rhythmically decent, so I keep it as it is. xd

Krfawy wrote:

00:12:082 (4,5,1,2) - Could you please tell Kami what you wanted to write here, sor he can tell me in Polish, or rewrite the sentence in the understandable manner? So far I've understood you want it to be a heart-shaped pattern and that you want it to fade sooner. Honestly, the pattern is okay as it is and I can't see the point of changing it just because one person doesn't like it if it works smoothly. D:

Krfawy wrote:

00:23:198 (1,2,3) - The problem is: if I were supposed to highlight the pitches perfectly, I'd have to use JUMPS and different slider velocities. Are you sure you want them different? The sounds are technically same and it's not mania where I have to make it different if they are still single sounds and not double or triple ones like here: 00:27:089 (4,5) - where I've used circles to show an emphasis with the circles.

Krfawy wrote:

00:47:654 (3,4,1) - Okay, time for some standard mapping techniques: as you know, one can map with circles or with sliders. The sliders consist of two circles and, let me call it, a "line" inbetween. So technically, I am still using same distance between 00:46:541 - and 00:47:098 - and 00:47:653 - and 00:49:321 - and 00:49:877 - because I am using the spacings previously used by the sliderends that actually make some spacing themselves. This technique is okay, especially when the direction is exactly the same, which happens to be the case. Fancy, isn't it? \o3o/

Krfawy wrote:

About the spinners on the very end: firstly, I am not sure if you know that in standard we don't make spinners match perfectly the song/music/melody if it's supposed to ease the game, especially in the easier diffs

Julie wrote:

if I'm not wrong, if rules haven't change while I was inactive in standard that easy and normal must keep the same spacing in the whole difficulty

Protastic101 wrote:

ok, got asked to mod this like ages ago by krfawy and now Im here to, idk, do stuff? Idk anymore

boop

General

1. OD/HP 8/8 in 4K Melody, 5K Music Box, and 6K lullaby is probably a bit overkill for the general difficulty of all charts. I say this cause it's a pretty slow BPM which would be more ideal for beginning players and the note density is too low to try and force an accuracy challenge of sorts. I'd say OD/HP 7.5/7.5 is best. ☑Sure. Changed
2. You need to rename Modren's diffs to "Modren's 9K (insert diff name)" to match the naming scheme of the other keymodes.
3. 00:53:211 - 00:53:767 - This is a suggestion overall for every mania diff, but I would add notes here to finish off the phrase of the song so that the chart ends on the start of the new phrase which would have played if the song were not faded out. ☑Hmm... I'm not sure because hitsounds in 8%volume (minimum) are too loud but ok.

4K Diffs

[Easy]
00:00:965 - I'd kind of recommend the same thing with LNs here that I suggested in Modren's diffs, in that instead of letting the LN pass through a note,
it be capped off instead, like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8168276 where the LN ends when the next note comes. I feel it'd be easier to hit this way since the player can use the coming note as a reference for when to release the LN ☑Ok

00:03:188 (3188|2,4299|3) - If the above is denied, I would at least ask that you try to keep short notes and LNs on different hands since trying to tap while also holding on the same hand can be a little more difficult for a target audience who is just getting the hang of finger independence. ☑You're right. Changed

00:17:083 (17083|0,17639|0) - to avoid the stack here, I would rearrange the notes a bit differently. It wouldn't be 100% accurate to pitch, but then again,
neither is the stack http://puu.sh/w1MCX.jpg ☑Hmm ok but I moved only LNs

00:35:425 (35425|0,35981|0) - Similarly, these two aren't the same pitch, as you have both the lower part and the higher part playing at the same time.
I would move 00:35:981 (35981|0) - to 2 as a result ☑Ok

00:36:537 (36537|3,38482|3) - This is the only place you've used a shield in this entire diff. It's a bit inconsistent for that reason then because at similar places such as 00:09:858 (9858|2,11803|3) - or 00:25:420 (25420|0,27088|3,27366|1) - , they weren't shields ☑I fixed it

00:50:432 - avoid the stack in the final two notes here, so I'd do this http://puu.sh/w1MOU.jpg ☑I have mixed feelings you know why but for more comfortable play I changed it


[Melody]
00:15:971 - Kind of a snake pattern here, so I would try to shift it instead so it feels a bit more directional for pitch, like this http://puu.sh/w1MYU.jpg ☑Ok

00:18:473 (18473|0,18473|3) - Concerning this jump here, I feel that it's unnecessary since it sounds like there's only one note here because the harmony tends to come in on 1/1 notes only. It's also not a chord, so the E4 isn't necessary imo. I'd just remove 00:18:473 (18473|0) - in that case and arrange like so http://puu.sh/w1N1O.jpg ☒ Sound is very hmm... clear. You're right that E4 isn't necessary. I think that second E5 will be better

00:25:420 - missing a jump here for the chord? ☑Fixed

00:27:366 (27366|1) - Same thing I said about the 1/2 jump. Also, are you sure A4 is the right pitch here? I believe there's only one note played at this time,
and it's B4 because it's a wholestep lower than 00:27:088 (27088|2) - ☑My bad. B4

00:35:425 (35425|0) - Would be fine to move this to a different column to avoid a stack with 00:35:981 (35981|0) - when they aren't the same note.
I think col 4 is fine ☑Ok

00:35:981 (35981|2) - Shouldn't this just be a short note since it's pretty much the same sound as 00:09:302 (9302|0,9580|1) - ? ☑Ok

00:53:211 (53211|1) - Think it'd have a better ending effect if you moved this onto the right hand since it makes the weight of the notes spread more evenly.
It's not accurate to pitch though, but neither is the current arrangement. ☑Ok

5K Diffs[Small Music Box]
00:02:632 - to 00:09:580 - man, rip column 2. Pretty much all your notes in that little section I highlighted is on the right hand (save for col 3 which could be played with left thumb or no thumb or whatever). I understand you're trying to keep this as strictly pr as possible, but you also gotta consider playability and strain in this case. ☑Changed... I think

00:18:195 - to 00:29:867 - Hand balance. It's really noticeable because the map essentially becomes 4k with an extra column in the map.☑Changed... I think

00:35:425 (35425|0,35981|0) - did you just copy and paste this from the 4k diff or something? Because in 5k, you easily have enough columns to follow pitch for this small scale going down, but there's still a random stack for god knows what reason

Everything else is a repeat of what I've said already. Honestly, the 5K diffs just feel like they've been copy and pasted from the 4k diffs and you didn't finish rebalancing the notes to fit an extra column. There are places to follow pitch relevancy that you couldn't do in 4k, but could do in 5k, yet you still don't do it such as that stack I mentioned. Also, the hand balance is really off. Instead of just rearranging the notes to be spread out evenly across all 5 columns,
it looks like you just shifted all the notes in column 2 to column 3 since col 2 is left empty a lot of the time. Honestly I don't remember how I did it xD


[Music Box]
00:07:634 (7634|1) - feel it'd be better to move this to 3 so that col 3 isn't left empty from 00:03:188 - to 00:09:858 - ☑Fixed

00:22:085 (22085|0,22641|0) - would try avoiding a 1/1 stack if possible, so might arrange like this instead then http://puu.sh/w1NQF.jpg I did it different

00:34:869 (34869|1,35425|0) - shift this one column to the left to avoid the unnecessary stack at 00:35:425 (35425|0,35981|0) - which doesn't make sense with the song since the pitches are different ☑K

00:35:981 (35981|3) - same thing about consistency I mentioned in the lower diff ☑ok

00:40:983 (40983|3,40983|0) - Double hitsound here? You have two A4's at 30% vol which means it's pretty much just one A4 at 60% vol which is inconsistent with how the rest of the diff has been keysounded hmm hmm I don't understand much about what I have to do with it

00:40:983 (40983|3) - might move this to 5 so that the column isn't left empty from 00:38:482 - to 00:42:095 - ☑ok

00:42:095 (42095|4,42650|3,43206|2,43762|4,44318|3) - this is the kind of stuff I'm talking about when I say that the hand balance is just kind of nonexistent. column 1 and 2 don't do anything from 00:41:539 - to 00:44:874 - disregarding the LN. The effect you might have been going for was right hand plays the melody and left hand does the harmony, but that's really hard to achieve on an odd numbered keymode and just makes it play in a really unbalanced and kind of uncomfortable way.☑ok I fixed it

Protastic101 wrote:

ok, got asked to mod this like ages ago by krfawy and now Im here to, idk, do stuff? Idk anymore

boop

General

1. You need to rename Modren's diffs to "Modren's 9K (insert diff name)" to match the naming scheme of the other keymodes. Ok
2. 00:53:211 - 00:53:767 - This is a suggestion overall for every mania diff, but I would add notes here to finish off the phrase of the song so that the chart ends on the start of the new phrase which would have played if the song were not faded out. I am not sure about that... For non-headphones users, they would be almost ghost notes!

9K Diffs

[Little Cymbals]
00:14:304 - This feels a little unbalanced since it's kind of heavy on the right hand. I would suggest doing this instead to try and make it more even while also keeping to the pitch relevancy https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8167841 75% of that suggestion accepted

00:22:085 (22085|4,23197|2) - Shouldn't these be stacked for pitch relevancy? It's freaking hard to have balance with every column while having good pitch relevancy... Look how many times columns 3 and 5 were used... I just "mixed" pitch of two sounds here.

00:23:197 (23197|2) - Also, this should only last for 2/1 beats since the phrase is similar to 00:14:304 (14304|7) - Whooops! Fixed!

00:27:088 (27088|3,27088|5) - Seeing that you haven't used doubles at all throughout this entire song yet, and you use quite a bit more in the latter half of the song at 00:30:978 (30978|1,30978|4) - , 00:35:981 (35981|2,35981|0) - and 00:32:090 (32090|1,32090|6) - for example, it feels a bit like an unnecessary spike. It's also a bit of a consistency issue because you don't use doubles at all in the first half of the song which is very similar in musical structure to the second half starting at 00:18:195 - You are rignt... I shouldn't make doubles... FIXED!

00:35:981 (35981|0,35981|2) - If you choose to keep the doubles (in which case I would add them to the beginning of the diff to be consistent), I would say then to avoid using a [13] chord on 9k since that's normally pinky and middle finger for most which is harder to execute because of the ring finger being too weak to support it's own weight. Worry not! I deleted doubles


[Cymbals]
00:00:965 - This is just a general comment for the LNs like 00:00:965 (965|6,3188|5,9858|7) - throughout the chart. I would highly recommend ending them 1/2 before (so on the second downbeat) so that the LN release is at the same time as the next note on the downbeat. Basically, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8167919 Lmao You suggested that in harder diff and not suggesting that in easier diff, but even that I understand and accept this... It will be much comfortable (in that diff) release note while clicking the next one!

00:05:411 (5411|3) - Similarly, I might suggest you end this on 00:05:967 - so the LNs have a fading effect while also timing the releases and hits together instead of separately It was hard decission... but i accepted

00:18:195 (18195|3,18473|5,18751|7) - I would recommend either connecting these notes (like 6-7-8) or putting them all on the same hand to separate the harmony and melody of the song, like so https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8167945 I remaked it another way... I don't want to see 3 LN's on pinkie D: I am avoiding this situation: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8236649

00:35:981 (35981|0,35981|2) - Kind of the same thing I mentioned in the last diff about [13] patterns in 9K. Due to the way the default keys are arranged,
it can be pretty uncomfortable to try and hit this pattern properly. I accepted this for Easier diff, but I reject this here... Players can see that kind of chord on this difficulity level. I know it might be spiky, but I want to hold consistency everywhere (I mean , everytime when the song part repeat, I repeat pattern. In that case i had to add one lower note and that was one possible way.

00:40:983 (40983|3) - Recommend making this LN 1/1 like I did at 00:05:411 (5411|3) - Done m8!

SitekX wrote:

Pora na moda ode mnie (kurcze jak ja dawno tego nie robiłem xD)
1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9

"5K Small Music Box"

00:33:202 (33202|2) - To bym dał na 4 kolumne, po czym 00:34:313 (34313|3,34869|2,35425|1) - przeniósłbym o jedną kolumne w lewo, a to 00:35:981 (35981|0,36259|1) - zaś o jedną w prawo. Głównie dlatego, że 00:33:202 (33202|2) - jest wyższym dźwiękiem od 00:34:313 (34313|3) .spoczko

"5K Music Box"

00:05:411 (5411|4) - To bym przeniósł na 3 lub 4 kolumne, nie jest to taki wysoki dźwięk jak 00:06:523 (6523|4) . ok
00:18:473 (18473|4) - To jest raczej zbędna notka i bym ją wyrzucił. Po pierwsze jest to dość trudny pattern jak na taki poziom, a po drugie zakładam że te notki 00:18:195 (18195|3,18473|4,18751|0) - są pod niższe dźwięki cymbałków, a tutaj 00:18:473 (18473|4) - żadnego nie słysze. zmienione
00:18:195 (18195|3) - Jeśli sie zastosujesz do powyższego do to bym przeniósł na 5 kolumne. zrobiłem to przed twoją poradą xD
00:22:641 (22641|3) - To raczej też zbędna notka, nie słyszę tam drugiego dźwięku/instrumentu. słuszne. Usunąłem
00:40:983 (40983|4) - przeniósłbym na 4 kolumne, ten sam powód co w 00:05:411 - .ok

"6K Easy Lullaby"

00:07:634 (7634|3) - Dałbym to na 2 lub 3 kolumne, znacznie niższy dźwięk od dwóch poprzednich.
00:43:206 (43206|3) - ^
poprawiłem + zrobiłem lekki repattern okolicy
Pomysł, który podsunąłem masz już w wyższym diffie 6K.

"6K Lullaby"

00:18:473 (18473|5) - Notka pod nic tak naprawde, wyjaśniałem już w modzie 5K.
00:22:641 (22641|3) - To też pod nic, wyjaśnienia też przy 5K
poprawione

"4K Melody"

00:18:473 (18473|0) - Notka pod nic tak naprawde, wyjaśniałem już w modzie 5K.
00:22:641 (22641|2) - To też pod nic, wyjaśnienia też przy 5K modzie.poprawione

Niższe 4K w bez zarzutów

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SitekX wrote:

Pora na moda ode mnie (kurcze jak ja dawno tego nie robiłem xD)
1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9

"Modren's 9K Little Cymbals"

00:03:188 (3188|5,4299|5) - Obie notki polecam przenieść na 5 lub 4 kolumnę, jest to Easy diff dlatego lepiej nie zabijać początkujących graczy jednoręcznym patternem, gdzie używamy małego palca. Jeśli zastosujesz się do tego to możesz również przenieść 00:05:411 (5411|3) - do kolumny 3. W sumie zgadzam się i nawet lepiej pitchowo się układa :v
00:12:081 (12081|5,13192|5) - ^ ^
00:19:862 - Myślę, że tutaj możesz pokusić się o dodanie notki. Jeśli sie zgodzisz to polecam dać ją na lewą rękę i 00:20:418 (20418|1) - przenieść również na lewą rękę lub na 5 kolumne (ze względu na wysokość dźwięku). Jakoś nie leży mi to. W tym momencie utwór ma uniesienie gdzie zmapowałem tylko main dzwoneczki :v i ta jedna notka zniszczyłaby "urok?" tego utworu w odniesieniu do mapy.
00:38:760 (38760|5,39871|5) - To samo co w 00:03:188 (3188|5,4299|5) - taka sama odpowiedź jak wyżej
00:47:653 (47653|5,48764|5) - no i tutaj też to samo co w 00:03:188 (3188|5,4299|5) -no i tutaj też taka sama odpowiedź jak wyżej :V

"Modren's 9K Cymbals"

00:14:304 (14304|1) - Dałbym to na prawą rękę, nie słyszę tam żadnego niższego dźwięku. Jeśli na to przystaniesz to możesz 00:14:860 (14860|3,15416|5,15971|7,16527|5,17083|4) - przesunąć o jedną kolumne w lewo. Masz na myśli że tam jest tylko jeden dźwięk???Tu SĄ dwa dźwięki ale serio pitch nie zgadzał się względem notki wcześniej i poprawiłem to
00:43:206 (43206|2) - Na 2 kolumne. Jeśli sie na to zgodzisz to dwa poniższe również polecam przemyśleć.ok
00:44:874 (44874|1) - Na 3 kolumne. ok
00:45:430 (45430|2) - Na 1 lub 2 kolumne.ok
00:49:876 (49876|1) - To gdzieś na prawą ręke. Jeśli sie zgodzisz to wtedy 00:50:432 (50432|3,50988|5,51543|7,52099|5,52655|4,53211|2) - dałbym o jedną kolumne w lewo. Ty serio nie słyszysz tego niskiego dźwięku? no cóż, istnieje :v i jest nawet keysounded

Modren wrote:

SitekX wrote:

Pora na moda ode mnie (kurcze jak ja dawno tego nie robiłem xD)
1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9

"Modren's 9K Little Cymbals"

00:03:188 (3188|5,4299|5) - Obie notki polecam przenieść na 5 lub 4 kolumnę, jest to Easy diff dlatego lepiej nie zabijać początkujących graczy jednoręcznym patternem, gdzie używamy małego palca. Jeśli zastosujesz się do tego to możesz również przenieść 00:05:411 (5411|3) - do kolumny 3. W sumie zgadzam się i nawet lepiej pitchowo się układa :v
00:12:081 (12081|5,13192|5) - ^ ^
00:19:862 - Myślę, że tutaj możesz pokusić się o dodanie notki. Jeśli sie zgodzisz to polecam dać ją na lewą rękę i 00:20:418 (20418|1) - przenieść również na lewą rękę lub na 5 kolumne (ze względu na wysokość dźwięku). Jakoś nie leży mi to. W tym momencie utwór ma uniesienie gdzie zmapowałem tylko main dzwoneczki :v i ta jedna notka zniszczyłaby "urok?" tego utworu w odniesieniu do mapy.
00:38:760 (38760|5,39871|5) - To samo co w 00:03:188 (3188|5,4299|5) - taka sama odpowiedź jak wyżej
00:47:653 (47653|5,48764|5) - no i tutaj też to samo co w 00:03:188 (3188|5,4299|5) -no i tutaj też taka sama odpowiedź jak wyżej :V

"Modren's 9K Cymbals"

00:14:304 (14304|1) - Dałbym to na prawą rękę, nie słyszę tam żadnego niższego dźwięku. Jeśli na to przystaniesz to możesz 00:14:860 (14860|3,15416|5,15971|7,16527|5,17083|4) - przesunąć o jedną kolumne w lewo. Masz na myśli że tam jest tylko jeden dźwięk???Tu SĄ dwa dźwięki ale serio pitch nie zgadzał się względem notki wcześniej i poprawiłem to
00:43:206 (43206|2) - Na 2 kolumne. Jeśli sie na to zgodzisz to dwa poniższe również polecam przemyśleć.ok
00:44:874 (44874|1) - Na 3 kolumne. ok
00:45:430 (45430|2) - Na 1 lub 2 kolumne.ok i nawet tak zrobiłem we wcześniejszym identycznym parcie :v
00:49:876 (49876|1) - To gdzieś na prawą ręke. Jeśli sie zgodzisz to wtedy 00:50:432 (50432|3,50988|5,51543|7,52099|5,52655|4,53211|2) - dałbym o jedną kolumne w lewo. Ty serio nie słyszysz tego niskiego dźwięku? no cóż, istnieje :v i jest nawet keysounded

Dzięki Sitek!