grayscale the bg fiery CxCraEZy wrote:
the background pic is too bright for a rock song imo, maybe go with something along the lines of gray or any other dark color.
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goddamnit guys, can't you just give him a reference instead of telling him to change it all the time
why don't you do it too? my mod was simply a suggestion. Here, I'll do it now.riktoi wrote:
goddamnit guys, can't you just give him a reference instead of telling him to change it all the time
the reason no one would provide examples is because he can just do a simple google search and find something he likes in like a minute, if he asks for help with examples, he would ask. Besides, he already asked 384059043, so why would it matter? I just gave a suggestion.
If I come off as a negative, I apologize, I don't mean to start drama
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reminder to m4m and respond to this mod
also nerfed some jumps / the ending on my own accord some more, plus some remaps to existing jumps, hopefully should be less overexaggerated in certain parts now (kiai still feels like it should be to me, so idk about that part lul)
also nerfed some jumps / the ending on my own accord some more, plus some remaps to existing jumps, hopefully should be less overexaggerated in certain parts now (kiai still feels like it should be to me, so idk about that part lul)
well, the reasoning behind why I didn't want to give him suggestions is because I find picking a background far more personal. even though he did originally have the same background as 384059043 (and I don't think that was a really fitting background) maybe it was something for him (or he was lazy and copypasted it lol).CraEZy wrote:
why don't you do it too? my mod was simply a suggestion. Here, I'll do it now.
If I come off as a negative, I apologize, I don't mean to start drama
giving suggestions is fine, but when one doesn't have a clear idea of what someone means picture references are there to help.
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cra
CraEZy wrote:
m4m
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/571750
the background pic is too bright for a rock song imo, maybe go with something along the lines of gray or any other dark color. unless there's a higher resolution version of the bg im currently using i'm not swapping further, this bg is taken / inspired directly from the official lyrics music video so
judging by the pattern you have with these sliders, should 00:07:890 (1) - be ctrl + g kinda breaks flow by doing that
00:16:140 (2) - maybe have this like 00:15:690 (1) - where it overlaps 00:15:090 (1) - with the body, sort of likethis i don't do that kind of overlap in the rest of the song so it wouldn't fit here
00:27:540 (3,4) - maybe have these follow the same pattern as 00:26:940 (2,3) - since they're basically the same sound snares have more emphasis here
00:32:340 (3,4) - ^ synth in the bg here which is emphasized a bit more
00:54:240 (1) - this slider feels off-putting, as there is no other shape like it, maybe change it to make it look like the other sliders i mean,
it keeps the circular flow that's been established previously going so i don't really see a huge issue with it as it is rn
00:58:440 (1) - maybe place it under 00:57:240 (1) - to blanket, likethis 00:58:440 (1,2) - would fuck up this spacing and overlaps after, and the emphasis you give it when blanketed is like near none so id rather just keep it this way
00:59:490 (2,1) - flip it so it's under 00:58:440 (1) - like this this is actually a really cool idea, i'll consider it but 00:59:640 (1,2,1) - this blanket kinda fucks with what u wanna do lo
01:00:690 (2,1) - if you do above, then put this closer to 00:59:490 (2,1) -
01:01:740 (1) - this is pretty unexpected, maybe make a red hitcolor, and color unexpected sv changes like this that color red or something there's like literally no way you can break on this slider
01:06:240 (1,2,3,4) - i feel like with your previous spacing, people might interpret this as streams instead or 1/2 jumps, maybe make them into a "Z" pattern, but with still low spacing, if you want an example, pm me in game changed this to emphasize a bit more
01:47:640 (1) - this slider feels off-putting, as there is no other shape like it, maybe change it to make it look like the other sliders nah it's fine, 01:47:040 (3,4) - this is essentially the same flow but in reverse
01:55:290 (2) - ctrl + g to follow the slider pattern at the beginning? flows rly weird if i do that lo
01:57:690 (2) - ^ but maybe since the spacing between 01:57:240 (1) - and that slider would be smaller
02:42:840 (1) - i would move this so it blankets under 02:42:390 (2) - , and if you do that, then i would move 02:42:240 (1) - accordingly, like this some1 else suggested this too but idk im not really a fan of trying to blanket sliders like this cuz its goddamn impossible sometimes like 03:07:140 (2,4) - fuck if i know how i did it here properly
02:51:240 (1,2,3) - these jumps are pretty uncomfortable, make them sharper ok, rearranged pattern after as well
03:18:240 (3) - maybe stack the end of this slider at the end of 03:17:340 (6) - 03:17:640 (1,3) - blanket here so ya cant do that rip
03:23:490 (1) - why does this slider slow down and the others speed up? guitar pitches
03:48:240 (4) - this could line up with 03:47:340 (4,2,3) - better i do this kind of pattern a lot so right now i don't think i'll change most of these, it's bland but i mean the song is literally the same vocals repeated 10x
03:48:690 (1,2) - same concept as ^
03:49:890 (1,2) - ^
03:52:740 (2,3) - i wouldnt stack, considering stacks have been associated with 1/1 rhythm, this goes for the other stacks 03:45:540 (2,3) - um
04:55:740 (4) - stack the end of this on top of 04:55:290 (2) - would ruin overlaps later on, and having an overlap on the sliderend like that directly after during the kiai feels rly out of place
05:11:490 (1) - why does this slider slow down and the others speed up? see above reasoning
05:35:640 (1,2,1) - ik that these are supposed to show the guitar, but they could look neater xd, they look like a l i e n sliders, this goes for the other sliders at the end. idgaf about these sliders as much as the guitarist doesnt give a fuck about his melody lul
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wow! amazing! i really hope you can get this ranked, however since some of the jumps feel forced, it might be harder. anyways, this was actually fun to mod, and since there wasn't many jarring problems, these were more-less suggestions. well, have fun getting this ranked!
ty!
did some more nerfs to jumps and ending is basically piss fucking easy now if anyone complains about it im killing u
lol 2 days later get fucked idiot
- [Shame]
- 00:18:840 (1,1,1) - Ur kinda inconsistent with ur slidershapes here, the first one is all weird and red anchored and the others r not
- 00:28:140 (3,4) - Instead of having this just stacked move 4 over to X:127 Y:176 to keep momentum and flow, while you're at it move 00:28:440 (1) - to X:152 Y:95 for A E S T H E T I C
- 01:13:740 (1,2) - ctrl+g for flow lolz
- 01:37:440 (3,4) - How about just making this sound a 1/4 repeat slider, to take emphasis off of the sound, same goes for 01:42:240 (3,4) -
- 03:42:090 - Can y'all explain what kind of land is this when a man has plans of being rich, but the bosses plans is wealthy? Dirty money scheme, a clean split is nonsense, it's insane, even corporate hands is filthy. They talk team and take the paper route, all they think about is bank accounts, assets and realty; at anybody's expense, no shame with a clear conscience, no regrets and guilt free. They claim that ain't the way that they built me; the smoke screen before the flame. Knowing as soon as the dough or the deal peak, they say it's time for things to change. Re-arrange like good product re-built cheap, anything if it's more to gain. Drained, manipulated like artists, it's real deep; until no more remains, but I'm still me. Like authentic hip-hop and rock, 'til pop and radio and record companies killed me. Try to force me to stray and obey, and got the gall to say how real can real be? You feel me? We'll see, that green could be to blame, greedy for the fame, TV or a name, media, the game, to me you're all the same:
You're guilty. - 05:05:340 (4,2) - Whyyyyyy
I mean uh yea haha dab nibba
Pray 4 my nibba Fuierry
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fixy
FoxyGrandpa wrote:
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lol 2 days later get fucked idiot Can y'all explain what kind of land is this when a man has plans of being rich, but the bosses plans is wealthy? Dirty money scheme, a clean split is nonsense, it's insane, even corporate hands is filthy. They talk team and take the paper route, all they think about is bank accounts, assets and realty; at anybody's expense, no shame with a clear conscience, no regrets and guilt free. They claim that ain't the way that they built me; the smoke screen before the flame. Knowing as soon as the dough or the deal peak, they say it's time for things to change. Re-arrange like good product re-built cheap, anything if it's more to gain. Drained, manipulated like artists, it's real deep; until no more remains, but I'm still me. Like authentic hip-hop and rock, 'til pop and radio and record companies killed me. Try to force me to stray and obey, and got the gall to say how real can real be? You feel me? We'll see, that green could be to blame, greedy for the fame, TV or a name, media, the game, to me you're all the same:
- [Shame]
One of my favorite 7* maps out there rn, jumps are hella fun and structure is on point. Apart form a few aesthetic issues this is really good.
- 00:18:840 (1,1,1) - Ur kinda inconsistent with ur slidershapes here, the first one is all weird and red anchored and the others r not its more of an aesthetic design choice by me cuz i do this kind of stupid shit transitioning between slider shapes all the time
- 00:28:140 (3,4) - Instead of having this just stacked move 4 over to X:127 Y:176 to keep momentum and flow, while you're at it move 00:28:440 (1) - to X:152 Y:95 for A E S T H E T I C if i break the jump/stack pattern here then like everything after will b fucked as hell so ya
- 01:13:740 (1,2) - ctrl+g for flow lolz 01:14:040 (1) - then the emphasis here is lost so i cant do thate
- 01:37:440 (3,4) - How about just making this sound a 1/4 repeat slider, to take emphasis off of the sound, same goes for 01:42:240 (3,4) - eh theres kind of an emphasis on 01:37:590 (4) - the latter notes here so i wanted to represent that as well as the original hit on 01:37:440 (3) - without being too cancer, i think its fine as it is rn
- 03:42:090 - fuck u for stealing my meme
- 05:05:340 (4,2) - Whyyyyyy holy shit is it seriously that triggering to people that literally everyone has to point it out god damn
I mean uh yea haha dab nibba
Pray 4 my nibba Fuierry eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
23 mods and counting lul
hello
found this map on front page of pending map and took a peek a bit and I coincidentally found 2 parts which bugging me about how it is emphasizing the song
found this map on front page of pending map and took a peek a bit and I coincidentally found 2 parts which bugging me about how it is emphasizing the song
- 05:50:005 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1) - I think it will be better if you decreasing the spacing bit by bit per each slider especially this one 05:52:105 (2,3,1) which has the weakest sound but biggest spacing.
- 03:41:490 (1,2,3) - I understand your style, it's a calm part but you are using 0.5x SV for cymbal part which drops the impact very much. I prefer 1.0x SV like you did on 03:36:690 (1,2,1) . Using 1.0x SV for these pattern also seperate the cymbal part and downbeat part very well and make 0.5x SV on downbeat part emphasize the song even better and have more impact.
Topic Starter
P A N wrote:
hello
found this map on front page of pending map and took a peek a bit and I coincidentally found 2 parts which bugging me about how it is emphasizing the songreally enjoy the map, good luck and sorry for bad english XD np, it was understandable so no worries!
- 05:50:005 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1) - I think it will be better if you decreasing the spacing bit by bit per each slider especially this one 05:52:105 (2,3,1) which has the weakest sound but biggest spacing. oh shit tru
- 03:41:490 (1,2,3) - I understand your style, it's a calm part but you are using 0.5x SV for cymbal part which drops the impact very much. I prefer 1.0x SV like you did on 03:36:690 (1,2,1) . Using 1.0x SV for these pattern also seperate the cymbal part and downbeat part very well and make 0.5x SV on downbeat part emphasize the song even better and have more impact. i like the concept but it'd require a whole remap of this section if i were to apply it to every section like that; to compensate for the lack of sv i tried making the spacing increased during those sections to emphasize the cymbals, ie 03:51:090 (1,2,3,4) - this is more spaced than 03:52:290 (1,2,3,4) - stuff like this because of that, if that makes any sense lol
uh
im a normal/easy mapper why do you want me to mod a 7 star map wtf im going tobed cya00:27:540 (3,4) - weaker sound but still spaced kinda akin to the two snares 00:27:240 (1,2) - here what
01:13:290 (2,1,2,1,2) - these should really be spaced equally all throughout if they're the same sound :think:
01:21:090 (2) - not even that strong of a sound boiiIi what
01:35:040 (1,2) - i think these should be spaced more since they sound stronger than 01:33:090 (2,1,2,1,2) - anything here onward or w/e (like 01:34:440 (1,2) - wh at why)
01:52:440 (1,2) - ok but this is arguably easier to hit than 01:50:040 (1,2) - and like 01:50:040 (1,2) - this was more so held vocal and like 01:52:440 (1,2) - new vocal line here and like i think it should be spaced more idk this mapping isn't even my forte man ;
02:24:240 (3,1) - aesthetic but what like make 3 parallel or smth
03:12:990 (2,3) - why'd you use another rhytghm when 03:12:990 (2,3) - this is a copy of 03:03:240 (1,2,3) - this (mayb im wrong give some reasonning please like you do this kinda consistently but i don't see the logic xd)
03:24:540 (3,1) - not a suggestion gbut borderline cross screen haha (wait edit 03:25:740 (3,1) - waht it's the same thing but it looks easier to hit
05:05:340 (4,2) - what
01:13:290 (2,1,2,1,2) - these should really be spaced equally all throughout if they're the same sound :think:
01:21:090 (2) - not even that strong of a sound boiiIi what
01:35:040 (1,2) - i think these should be spaced more since they sound stronger than 01:33:090 (2,1,2,1,2) - anything here onward or w/e (like 01:34:440 (1,2) - wh at why)
01:52:440 (1,2) - ok but this is arguably easier to hit than 01:50:040 (1,2) - and like 01:50:040 (1,2) - this was more so held vocal and like 01:52:440 (1,2) - new vocal line here and like i think it should be spaced more idk this mapping isn't even my forte man ;
02:24:240 (3,1) - aesthetic but what like make 3 parallel or smth
03:12:990 (2,3) - why'd you use another rhytghm when 03:12:990 (2,3) - this is a copy of 03:03:240 (1,2,3) - this (mayb im wrong give some reasonning please like you do this kinda consistently but i don't see the logic xd)
03:24:540 (3,1) - not a suggestion gbut borderline cross screen haha (wait edit 03:25:740 (3,1) - waht it's the same thing but it looks easier to hit
05:05:340 (4,2) - what
Topic Starter
ty!Renumi wrote:
uhim a normal/easy mapper why do you want me to mod a 7 star map wtf im going tobed cya every mod looks good Lullllll00:27:540 (3,4) - weaker sound but still spaced kinda akin to the two snares 00:27:240 (1,2) - here what ok a lot of people suggested i fix this so i tried something different here, hopefully it works
01:13:290 (2,1,2,1,2) - these should really be spaced equally all throughout if they're the same sound :think: 01:15:240 (2) - i give more emphasis to this one cuz of the downbeat
01:21:090 (2) - not even that strong of a sound boiiIi what this wasn't as spaced before and basically any way i try to change this pattern is gonna fuck up 01:20:340 (2) - overlaps with this so lol woops
01:35:040 (1,2) - i think these should be spaced more since they sound stronger than 01:33:090 (2,1,2,1,2) - anything here onward or w/e (like 01:34:440 (1,2) - wh at why) its to transition into the slow part more than anything, also to me they sound like 10x less stronger are u ok
01:52:440 (1,2) - ok but this is arguably easier to hit than 01:50:040 (1,2) - and like 01:50:040 (1,2) - this was more so held vocal and like 01:52:440 (1,2) - new vocal line here and like i think it should be spaced more idk this mapping isn't even my forte man ; lul im gonna see what bns think about the spacing and overlaps here in general cuz pishi said there were some issues with this and the latter section 02:33:240 (1) - here (which i fixed)
so ya
02:24:240 (3,1) - aesthetic but what like make 3 parallel or smth the visual distance between those two triggered me so i spaced it out more
03:12:990 (2,3) - why'd you use another rhytghm when 03:12:990 (2,3) - this is a copy of 03:03:240 (1,2,3) - this (mayb im wrong give some reasonning please like you do this kinda consistently but i don't see the logic xd) i wanted to differentiate the rhythm here, i felt having a triple was pretty bland all things considering; didn't feel like it gave enough emphasis to the cymbal crash later
03:24:540 (3,1) - not a suggestion gbut borderline cross screen haha (wait edit 03:25:740 (3,1) - waht it's the same thing but it looks easier to hit haha yolo my guy
05:05:340 (4,2) - what okay for fucks sake ill see what i can do about this because literally everyone and their mom is pointing this one out
I think that only one part could need a softfix and that isn't even needed if you wanted it like that.
00:28:140 (3,4) - These two circles make no sense for me. I would replace the circles with a slider just how you did it here: 00:32:940
03:39:090 (1,1) - Maybe make the hitsounds about 10% quieter here. It sounds too loud at this part even though it's already on 40%.
I really like the mapping design even though it's too hard for me playing it. ^^
Good luck
00:28:140 (3,4) - These two circles make no sense for me. I would replace the circles with a slider just how you did it here: 00:32:940
03:39:090 (1,1) - Maybe make the hitsounds about 10% quieter here. It sounds too loud at this part even though it's already on 40%.
I really like the mapping design even though it's too hard for me playing it. ^^
Good luck
Topic Starter
@snowtiger 00:28:140 (3,4) - this is for the two snares here, I do the exact same thing throughout this entire section lol
will consider reducing vol by 5% though, I think it's fine rn
@dimidrou no clue what you mean considering there's like 5 kiai sections in the map
will consider reducing vol by 5% though, I think it's fine rn
@dimidrou no clue what you mean considering there's like 5 kiai sections in the map
sorry im late hfgudi8sagnodsfk
well thats all i could really find
good luck!~
shaME
01:10:440 (1,2,3) - This antijump between 1 and 2 doesnt really seem called for, and I think you should either semi stack them or make them a little more spaced, because it kind of just feels awkward as it is (especially because you use the semi stakcs 02:00:090 (2,3,4) - )
01:45:690 (2,3) - You did a similar thing here, however in other places like 01:48:840 (1,2,3) you put a lot more emphasis on it, maybe make them a little more spaced
03:26:340 (1,2) - Im not really a fan of these shapes and how they make the map play, i think you should consider making (2) similar to a Ctrl J Crtl H (1)
05:04:440 (1,1) - A little nit picky but stack the ends of these two and also 05:05:340 (4,2) -
01:45:690 (2,3) - You did a similar thing here, however in other places like 01:48:840 (1,2,3) you put a lot more emphasis on it, maybe make them a little more spaced
03:26:340 (1,2) - Im not really a fan of these shapes and how they make the map play, i think you should consider making (2) similar to a Ctrl J Crtl H (1)
05:04:440 (1,1) - A little nit picky but stack the ends of these two and also 05:05:340 (4,2) -
well thats all i could really find
good luck!~
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ultima
01:10:440 (1,2,3) - This antijump between 1 and 2 doesnt really seem called for, and I think you should either semi stack them or make them a little more spaced, because it kind of just feels awkward as it is (especially because you use the semi stakcs 02:00:090 (2,3,4) - ) i like to keep the movement going in this part, so stacking them kinda ruins that
01:45:690 (2,3) - You did a similar thing here, however in other places like 01:48:840 (1,2,3) you put a lot more emphasis on it, maybe make them a little more spaced ye i like the antijumps here, gives emphasis on claps
03:26:340 (1,2) - Im not really a fan of these shapes and how they make the map play, i think you should consider making (2) similar to a Ctrl J Crtl H (1) circular movement tho
05:04:440 (1,1) - A little nit picky but stack the ends of these two and also 05:05:340 (4,2) - adf
ty!
chester commited suicide, you should rank this as a tribute
Topic Starter
>finding bns in 2017
l ol
l ol
rip
noob modder here, you dont have to give kds because this really isnt a lot picked at, i blame my inexperience
00:33:240 (1) - throughout this calmer part of the intro, you tend to have a motion mapped of back and forth or just staying at a spot, such as 00:25:440 (1,2,3) or 00:28:890 (2,3,1) ... but it is actually not done in this 4 measure section 33 seconds in. every other section in this part of the intro (before the more constant hit finishes) has it. doing something similar in these 4 measures would probably be best. (i can try to elaborate more if this wasn't clear enough)
01:10:740 (3) - if you could align this with 01:11:190 (2,3) that would probably look a bit cleaner
01:11:190 (2,3) - allign 2 to the sliderend of 3 maybe? and then adjust 01:13:740 (1,2) to align as well
03:09:690 (2,2) - ^ same as above, but align this pair so that the second 2 aligns with 03:10:740 (1,1)
04:16:290 (1) - move this away from 04:15:540 (2) or connect it somehow? maybe just blanket it
04:40:740 // 04:40:890 // 04:42:840 - what are these lil guys doing here (unnecessary inherited points during breaks)
04:46:440 - here too?
map is pretty good on its own, just a few things you might want to look at
edit: if i find more stuff later do i just make a new post or do i edit
00:33:240 (1) - throughout this calmer part of the intro, you tend to have a motion mapped of back and forth or just staying at a spot, such as 00:25:440 (1,2,3) or 00:28:890 (2,3,1) ... but it is actually not done in this 4 measure section 33 seconds in. every other section in this part of the intro (before the more constant hit finishes) has it. doing something similar in these 4 measures would probably be best. (i can try to elaborate more if this wasn't clear enough)
01:10:740 (3) - if you could align this with 01:11:190 (2,3) that would probably look a bit cleaner
01:11:190 (2,3) - allign 2 to the sliderend of 3 maybe? and then adjust 01:13:740 (1,2) to align as well
03:09:690 (2,2) - ^ same as above, but align this pair so that the second 2 aligns with 03:10:740 (1,1)
04:16:290 (1) - move this away from 04:15:540 (2) or connect it somehow? maybe just blanket it
04:40:740 // 04:40:890 // 04:42:840 - what are these lil guys doing here (unnecessary inherited points during breaks)
04:46:440 - here too?
map is pretty good on its own, just a few things you might want to look at
edit: if i find more stuff later do i just make a new post or do i edit
please don't delete 
Overall, it's a very nice looking map with some neat concepts and pretty consistent aesthetic overlaps. However, probably the biggest problem is the way you handle emphasis and flow, especially in the kiai. Along with this, your rhythm choice is also a little inconsistent and could use some work. Try to have a reason behind each relatively big change you make, and it'll end up better.
rank guilty all the same
00:01:740 (2,3) - this should be reverse slider because in this section you don't do anything like this, and at the end of this section this pattern is a 1/1 rather than a 1/2 like it is here
00:04:890 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - this sort of pattern is kind of dumb, because there is no reason for there to be NC, since the sounds are at relatively the same intensity, along with this, 00:05:040 (2,1) - the flow between these should be more circular, because this sharp angle change puts too much unneeded emphasis on it. The pattern also should not be repeated, considering that the sounds are quite different in terms of intensity and pitch. You need to put more thought into why you use each pattern, especially when you make big flow changes, and ESPECIALLY when you NC in the middle of a jump section.
00:09:690 (1,2,1,2) - rotate this entire pattern by 20 degrees, move it so that 00:09:840 (2) - overlaps with 00:09:240 (2) - , and make it so that the combo is 1,2,3,4. At least, that's my take on how to improve the emphasis and flow of this pattern.
00:12:390 (3) - change this to a slider, 00:12:690 (5) - turn this into two circles, and turn 00:12:990 (6) - into two circles. This way, you should try to emphasise each of the important sounds throughout this section.
00:14:490 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - no clear reason to nc all of this and break flow so often. If you're overemphasising everything, when you actually WANT to emphasise something, the impact of it is heavily reduced.
00:17:490 (1,2) - I think you should increase SV here slightly (by like .1)
00:27:540 (3,4) - I think you should add a clap hitsound to both of these, but its up to you
00:28:140 (3,4) - these sounds are similar to 00:27:540 (3,4) - , so they should be spaced similarly
00:32:940 (3) - why is this a slider?
00:46:890 (4,1) - this is a bit over the top, i think. it's almost as big as some of the jumps in a lot of the kiais, but it isn't as intense in terms of the song. this is why the way you do emphasis sometimes falls flat
00:47:190 (2,3,4) - this shouldn't be linear (or this big)
keep the two things i've said above in mind for the entire section between 00:42:840 (1) - and 00:56:940 (2) -
01:13:440 (1,2,1,2) - adding hitsounds doesn't justify breaking flow like this for relatively weak sounds
01:23:340 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - please, PLEASE stray away from using jumps like this. They are lazy, don't emphasise the song correctly, and there are so many better ways to do this section. Along with this, the stuff i've said about emphasis before applies, where this isn't the climax of the song, but the jumps make it feel like so
01:36:240 (3,4) - with the way you've mapped the song before now, this isn't really easily readable. try to find a way to change it
01:56:640 (1,2,3,4,5) - you should just make this a simple curve
02:02:940 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - these should be scaled down to like 0.7x lmao
02:09:990 (4,5) - please make it more clear WHY you overlap like this. it disregards the song, previous concepts, readability and emphasis
02:21:240 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - these should be comoboed in groups of 4 (and should also be a fair bit smaller)
02:26:640 (1,2,3,4) - this is a GOOD set of jumps, because it is comboed similarly to the previous combo due to being part of the same melody, but 02:26:940 (3,4) - is linear and spaced more due to the two strong sounds on it. Please do more things like this
02:28:440 (1) - overlap this somewhere with the body of 02:27:540 (2) - to make it look cleaner
02:32:940 (2) - should be two circles
02:37:140 (3,4) - please don't do this. just, like ,don't. very rarely will a song require for two beats to be clickable, but for them to be insignificant enough to have there be no spacing between them.
02:37:590 (2,1) - these don't overlap properly
02:57:540 (2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - this whole part is just weird to read
03:01:740 (4) - now THIS is where you place two circles that are stacked on top of each other at 1/2 distance
03:04:440 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ew
03:26:940 (3,4) - should be spaced more xd (i like this section btw)
03:56:340 (2,3) - this pattern in the song here is inconsistent. sometimes you map it with sliders, sometimes you map it with overlapped 1/2 and sometimes with normal 1/2. try to fix this
04:37:440 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - what is flow
04:48:540 (2) - doesn't need to be so quiet
04:49:740 (2) - should be two circles
05:00:540 (4) - this overlaps badly with 04:59:640 (1) -
05:14:940 (3,4) - this is a bit big
05:33:240 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why did you decided to not NC this like everything else?
00:04:890 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - this sort of pattern is kind of dumb, because there is no reason for there to be NC, since the sounds are at relatively the same intensity, along with this, 00:05:040 (2,1) - the flow between these should be more circular, because this sharp angle change puts too much unneeded emphasis on it. The pattern also should not be repeated, considering that the sounds are quite different in terms of intensity and pitch. You need to put more thought into why you use each pattern, especially when you make big flow changes, and ESPECIALLY when you NC in the middle of a jump section.
00:09:690 (1,2,1,2) - rotate this entire pattern by 20 degrees, move it so that 00:09:840 (2) - overlaps with 00:09:240 (2) - , and make it so that the combo is 1,2,3,4. At least, that's my take on how to improve the emphasis and flow of this pattern.
00:12:390 (3) - change this to a slider, 00:12:690 (5) - turn this into two circles, and turn 00:12:990 (6) - into two circles. This way, you should try to emphasise each of the important sounds throughout this section.
00:14:490 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - no clear reason to nc all of this and break flow so often. If you're overemphasising everything, when you actually WANT to emphasise something, the impact of it is heavily reduced.
00:17:490 (1,2) - I think you should increase SV here slightly (by like .1)
00:27:540 (3,4) - I think you should add a clap hitsound to both of these, but its up to you
00:28:140 (3,4) - these sounds are similar to 00:27:540 (3,4) - , so they should be spaced similarly
00:32:940 (3) - why is this a slider?
00:46:890 (4,1) - this is a bit over the top, i think. it's almost as big as some of the jumps in a lot of the kiais, but it isn't as intense in terms of the song. this is why the way you do emphasis sometimes falls flat
00:47:190 (2,3,4) - this shouldn't be linear (or this big)
keep the two things i've said above in mind for the entire section between 00:42:840 (1) - and 00:56:940 (2) -
01:13:440 (1,2,1,2) - adding hitsounds doesn't justify breaking flow like this for relatively weak sounds
01:23:340 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - please, PLEASE stray away from using jumps like this. They are lazy, don't emphasise the song correctly, and there are so many better ways to do this section. Along with this, the stuff i've said about emphasis before applies, where this isn't the climax of the song, but the jumps make it feel like so
01:36:240 (3,4) - with the way you've mapped the song before now, this isn't really easily readable. try to find a way to change it
01:56:640 (1,2,3,4,5) - you should just make this a simple curve
02:02:940 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - these should be scaled down to like 0.7x lmao
02:09:990 (4,5) - please make it more clear WHY you overlap like this. it disregards the song, previous concepts, readability and emphasis
02:21:240 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - these should be comoboed in groups of 4 (and should also be a fair bit smaller)
02:26:640 (1,2,3,4) - this is a GOOD set of jumps, because it is comboed similarly to the previous combo due to being part of the same melody, but 02:26:940 (3,4) - is linear and spaced more due to the two strong sounds on it. Please do more things like this
02:28:440 (1) - overlap this somewhere with the body of 02:27:540 (2) - to make it look cleaner
02:32:940 (2) - should be two circles
02:37:140 (3,4) - please don't do this. just, like ,don't. very rarely will a song require for two beats to be clickable, but for them to be insignificant enough to have there be no spacing between them.
02:37:590 (2,1) - these don't overlap properly
02:57:540 (2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - this whole part is just weird to read
03:01:740 (4) - now THIS is where you place two circles that are stacked on top of each other at 1/2 distance
03:04:440 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ew
03:26:940 (3,4) - should be spaced more xd (i like this section btw)
03:56:340 (2,3) - this pattern in the song here is inconsistent. sometimes you map it with sliders, sometimes you map it with overlapped 1/2 and sometimes with normal 1/2. try to fix this
04:37:440 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - what is flow
04:48:540 (2) - doesn't need to be so quiet
04:49:740 (2) - should be two circles
05:00:540 (4) - this overlaps badly with 04:59:640 (1) -
05:14:940 (3,4) - this is a bit big
05:33:240 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why did you decided to not NC this like everything else?
Overall, it's a very nice looking map with some neat concepts and pretty consistent aesthetic overlaps. However, probably the biggest problem is the way you handle emphasis and flow, especially in the kiai. Along with this, your rhythm choice is also a little inconsistent and could use some work. Try to have a reason behind each relatively big change you make, and it'll end up better.
Add Project Spark and Microsoft to tags because this song is collaboration with that game too
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Topic Starter
reviving this because og spark of light got qualified and extraction zone lol
ty for mods guys
@kitty added project spark, i don't think microsoft is needed though
dab
Dab wrote:
noob modder here, you dont have to give kds because this really isnt a lot picked at, i blame my inexperience
00:33:240 (1) - throughout this calmer part of the intro, you tend to have a motion mapped of back and forth or just staying at a spot, such as 00:25:440 (1,2,3) or 00:28:890 (2,3,1) ... but it is actually not done in this 4 measure section 33 seconds in. every other section in this part of the intro (before the more constant hit finishes) has it. doing something similar in these 4 measures would probably be best. (i can try to elaborate more if this wasn't clear enough) it does have the back and forth flow though, the same pattern is repeated frequently which is what the previous patterns were all about anyway
01:10:740 (3) - if you could align this with 01:11:190 (2,3) that would probably look a bit cleaner aligned with 01:09:840 (3,4,3) - tho
01:11:190 (2,3) - allign 2 to the sliderend of 3 maybe? and then adjust 01:13:740 (1,2) to align as well i fixed something here that was an overlap that i missed lo l
03:09:690 (2,2) - ^ same as above, but align this pair so that the second 2 aligns with 03:10:740 (1,1) not a huge deal imo
04:16:290 (1) - move this away from 04:15:540 (2) or connect it somehow? maybe just blanket it yea
04:40:740 // 04:40:890 // 04:42:840 - what are these lil guys doing here (unnecessary inherited points during breaks)
04:46:440 - here too? this was supposed to be mapped before but i left these here, nothing too huge leaving them in here anyways
map is pretty good on its own, just a few things you might want to look at
edit: if i find more stuff later do i just make a new post or do i edit
turq
Turquoise2 wrote:
00:01:740 (2,3) - this should be reverse slider because in this section you don't do anything like this, and at the end of this section this pattern is a 1/1 rather than a 1/2 like it is here 00:02:640 (1,2) - similar case here so no change
00:04:890 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - this sort of pattern is kind of dumb, because there is no reason for there to be NC, since the sounds are at relatively the same intensity, along with this, 00:05:040 (2,1) - the flow between these should be more circular, because this sharp angle change puts too much unneeded emphasis on it. The pattern also should not be repeated, considering that the sounds are quite different in terms of intensity and pitch. You need to put more thought into why you use each pattern, especially when you make big flow changes, and ESPECIALLY when you NC in the middle of a jump section. changed this pattern entirely
00:09:690 (1,2,1,2) - rotate this entire pattern by 20 degrees, move it so that 00:09:840 (2) - overlaps with 00:09:240 (2) - , and make it so that the combo is 1,2,3,4. At least, that's my take on how to improve the emphasis and flow of this pattern. flows fine to me and testplays so i dont really see a need to change it
00:12:390 (3) - change this to a slider, 00:12:690 (5) - turn this into two circles, and turn 00:12:990 (6) - into two circles. This way, you should try to emphasise each of the important sounds throughout this section. most everyone said that having 00:12:690 (5,6) - these two as circle-only patterns made the whole thing flow weirdly, so unless someone else says i should change this i think it's fine rn
00:14:490 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - no clear reason to nc all of this and break flow so often. If you're overemphasising everything, when you actually WANT to emphasise something, the impact of it is heavily reduced. this should be emphasized tho, theres cymbals on every nc and that's emphasized with the jumps
00:17:490 (1,2) - I think you should increase SV here slightly (by like .1) it gets less emphasized here tho what
00:27:540 (3,4) - I think you should add a clap hitsound to both of these, but its up to you finish hitsound on one of them fits better
00:28:140 (3,4) - these sounds are similar to 00:27:540 (3,4) - , so they should be spaced similarly revamped this section a bit
00:32:940 (3) - why is this a slider? o woops
00:46:890 (4,1) - this is a bit over the top, i think. it's almost as big as some of the jumps in a lot of the kiais, but it isn't as intense in terms of the song. this is why the way you do emphasis sometimes falls flat nerfed i think
00:47:190 (2,3,4) - this shouldn't be linear (or this big)
keep the two things i've said above in mind for the entire section between 00:42:840 (1) - and 00:56:940 (2) - nerfed this too
01:13:440 (1,2,1,2) - adding hitsounds doesn't justify breaking flow like this for relatively weak sounds im pretty sure i just made this pattern worse but whatever
01:23:340 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - please, PLEASE stray away from using jumps like this. They are lazy, don't emphasise the song correctly, and there are so many better ways to do this section. Along with this, the stuff i've said about emphasis before applies, where this isn't the climax of the song, but the jumps make it feel like so readjusted first set of jumps, second set i feel is fine
01:36:240 (3,4) - with the way you've mapped the song before now, this isn't really easily readable. try to find a way to change it how tho?
i don't really see how this is unreadable especially at this ar
01:56:640 (1,2,3,4,5) - you should just make this a simple curve thats wot it is though
02:02:940 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - these should be scaled down to like 0.7x lmao nerfed last jump in this again zz
02:09:990 (4,5) - please make it more clear WHY you overlap like this. it disregards the song, previous concepts, readability and emphasis cuz 02:09:090 (4,1) - i did it here, and i don't see how this disregards concepts previously since this is the only real "slow section" of the map disregarding the one at 1 min in
02:21:240 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - these should be comoboed in groups of 4 (and should also be a fair bit smaller) every other snare piece like this was 1-2 so i'm keeping it this way
02:26:640 (1,2,3,4) - this is a GOOD set of jumps, because it is comboed similarly to the previous combo due to being part of the same melody, but 02:26:940 (3,4) - is linear and spaced more due to the two strong sounds on it. Please do more things like this nazid this
02:28:440 (1) - overlap this somewhere with the body of 02:27:540 (2) - to make it look cleaner ?? that would ruin emphasis here
02:32:940 (2) - should be two circles yea
02:37:140 (3,4) - please don't do this. just, like ,don't. very rarely will a song require for two beats to be clickable, but for them to be insignificant enough to have there be no spacing between them. 02:37:140 (3) - this is significant enough to be clicked, the other one is solely because i cant figure out a better pattern for it, else i'd do something similar to 02:39:240 (1,2,3) - here
02:37:590 (2,1) - these don't overlap properly thats all it will let me do on the editor so lmao
02:57:540 (2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - this whole part is just weird to read no one had issues here
03:01:740 (4) - now THIS is where you place two circles that are stacked on top of each other at 1/2 distance
03:04:440 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ew thanks
03:26:940 (3,4) - should be spaced more xd (i like this section btw) eetyatea
03:56:340 (2,3) - this pattern in the song here is inconsistent. sometimes you map it with sliders, sometimes you map it with overlapped 1/2 and sometimes with normal 1/2. try to fix this i dont see where its not consistent
04:37:440 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - what is flow what's so bad about this lol
04:48:540 (2) - doesn't need to be so quiet its not that quiet considering the only note here is a vocal
04:49:740 (2) - should be two circles consistency with 03:01:740 (4)
05:00:540 (4) - this overlaps badly with 04:59:640 (1) - can't really do much about this or else it'd fuck over all the other patterns in the map
05:14:940 (3,4) - this is a bit big nerfed a bit
05:33:240 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why did you decided to not NC this like everything else? O
Overall, it's a very nice looking map with some neat concepts and pretty consistent aesthetic overlaps. However, probably the biggest problem is the way you handle emphasis and flow, especially in the kiai. Along with this, your rhythm choice is also a little inconsistent and could use some work. Try to have a reason behind each relatively big change you make, and it'll end up better.
ty for mods guys
@kitty added project spark, i don't think microsoft is needed though
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00:03:540 (4) - would it make more sense as a circle+slider instead of using the repeat? similar thing to 00:01:740 (2,3) - is what I'm thinking
00:05:490 (1,2,3,4) - Probably intentional but it'd feel like this would be similar spacing to 00:04:890 (1,2,3,4) - because the guitar strums the same way. Only difference is for pitch but since the two patterns are near identical, why not just make full identical?
00:07:890 (1) - should be 1/1
00:17:490 (1,2) - could be higher spacing since the last four sliders were gaining spacing too
00:17:040 (2) - one thing I don't like is how this slider has a bit of an odd overlap with the previous object whereas 00:16:590 (1) - doesn't. structurally a tiny bit inconsistent but eh
00:24:540 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I repeated this a few times and the rhythm seems kind of odd because of how you double repeated the sliders for two measures first.. I found that using two repeat sliders first, and then the 1/2 jumps, and then the repeat sliders again, followed by the 1/2 jumps again compliment the music. Only because your AABB rhythm choice is quite extreme with intensities, it doesn't get enough of buildup imo. If follow ABAB pattern, the first AB can be weak spacing and the last AB can be stronger for more proper buildup rather than just throwing 1/2 jumps at the player where the music doesn't change much at all.
00:27:240 (1,2,3,4) - This feels a bit strange because it's patterned similarly to before but the music is much different here
00:28:440 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Not sure i understand your rhythm choice here. The first couple sliders is okay, but then it gets weaker with the repeat sliders, and then drastically much stronger with the 1/2 jumps? It's so off. Don't know if I can suggest much of an alternative but going mid->weak->strong is very confusing. either make cleaner progression weak->mid->strong or some sort of consistency with rhythm choice.
00:32:940 (3,4) - antijump kind of stops all flows. i'd just place 4 as a decently spaced jump from 3
00:35:940 (1,2) - Here I don't understand the repeat sliders either. The sliders before were making sense but then it goes back to being weak and suddenly strong again with the jumps afterwards. Using the same 1/2 sliders as before (maybe with more deviated spacing) would progress with the song more smoothly. I mean, the drums are quite literally all the same
00:40:740 (1,2) - If you plan to use the repeats from the previous measure just make these as 1/2 sliders for steadier rhythm. It'll help lead into the jumps again
00:43:290 (2) - could make as angled slider since everything around it is a bit angled
00:43:740 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - so like going through this thing again I'm just certain you have trouble with rhythmic consistencies or your purposefully trying to make the map awkward for the player. I'll try to explain this a bit better:
00:42:840 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - is all the same in the music, the only difference is the pitch in the guitar. What this means is if you want a clean progression with the song (for buildup), use weaker density first and then gradually more intense which isn't what you did because the two repeat sliders in the middle do this weird mid->weak->strong density that the music doesn't change for it. It's also possible to keep everything the same rhythmically but that might be boring, although, it'd follow the music a bit more accurately.
00:44:640 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Here you're combining two different measures together which is rhythmically inconsistent (mostly because of how the repeat sliders are done from before). What happens is that 00:45:540 (1,2,3) - is an EXTRA beat added to the guitars where the other parts of the phrase only use two sliders for the drums. As in, player clicks for two guitars on both previous rhythm choices but here is three times for seemingly no reason.
00:45:990 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is probably okay but man, the progression to these moments need to be a bit more progressive or obvious because currently it's incredibly forced.
00:50:940 (3,4) - might be better as a slider so that the actual jumps afterwards stand out a bit more to the music.
00:55:740 (3,4) -
01:08:490 (2,3,1,2) - flow is really strange here
01:10:290 (4,1,2,3,4) - I don't understand this pattern here. Only on 01:10:740 (3) - does the dominant drum make an appearance but you already start a jump pattern before music changes so... yeah.
might want to add a circle 01:09:690 - to fill that rhythmic gap (again with the idea of steady progression) and make 01:10:440 (1) - as a 1/2 slider. With the slider you can pattern the next two objects and the NC to increase in spacing as you did and it'd /feel/ more buildup than just throwing jumps around
01:11:640 (1) - 1/2 slider and 01:12:690 - circle since the rhythmic gap is a bit strange... it's very weird to buildup with jumps and then just stop the rhythm for a measure. With dominating drums again like here 01:13:440 (1,2,3,4) - you can space these out a bit more for the resolution but would need a bit more rhythm to work with in previous measure.
01:21:090 (2) - weak beat but higher spacing than 01:20:940 (1) - ?
01:28:440 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - incredibly forced pattern.... .. .. . it's almost implied to be treated similarly to 01:24:840 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - but they're different so why not just make it similar to 01:20:040 (1,2,3,1,2) - because it's literally the exact same part of the music.
01:30:690 (4) - weak beat is higher spacing again, a bit backwards to the rhythm.
01:55:290 (2,3) - flow is strange
01:57:240 (1,2,3) - here maybe too. only cuz it goes left to right but the repeat stop that left/right motion a bit
02:02:490 (2) - should also be circles like how you did it 02:00:090 (2,3) - but honestly the whole circle spam is so forced man... lol like why do u do dis xD
many circles in succession imply that it's intense and should be everything clickable but the music more like draaaaining so i mean, sliders are okay to use too yknow xd and especially because using sliders would REALLY help make the yknow, super strong vocals/drums stand out here 02:02:940 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
if everything is just as circle spams, it's so hard to emphasize the actual strong parts of the song with circles because well, everything is circles yah
02:04:440 - You could actually make a pretty clean break here up until 02:11:640 (1) - or 02:14:040 (1) - The break will help the previous jumps stand out even more since they're REALLY strong vocals/drums compared to the rest.
02:26:040 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2) - rhythm here is backwards. weak measure has all your jumps (it's weak because its 3rd measure and pitch of guitar is lower) and the strong measure has less density (it's strong because 4th measure is naturally the stronger measure in a phrase and the pitch of guitar is higher).
02:29:040 (3) - this spacing is ludicrous wtf
02:41:340 (5,6,1,2) - these don't exist in the music man, dominating drum starts 02:41:940 (3) -
02:51:240 (1,2,3,4) - if you want these as circles make them a bit weaker so that 02:51:840 (1,2,3,4,1) - is visibly stronger because currently it all feels too similar.
like why is 03:24:540 (3,1) - so cross-spaced and 03:25:740 (3,1) - much weaker. the weaker jump doesn't matter since it's a comfortable spacing you used for the rest but that first one i linked is waaaay too high lol
03:37:140 (2) - repeat on strong beat :puke:
03:39:090 (1,1) - I think a break feels better here since the sliders don't serve much of a purpose except to fill some gaps.
04:02:940 (1,2,1) - could also be a 'tactical' break. it would make 04:05:490 (1,2,3,4,1) - stand out much more
04:07:890 (1,2,1) - same idea here as a break to make 04:10:290 (1,2,3,4,1) - stand out etc with other similar moments up until 04:19:890 (1) -
05:01:590 (4,5,6) - jumps dont exist here yet
05:37:440 (1) - i.. don't know about this one ? if anything, remove a 1/4 repeat to give it a bit more buffer
My biggest gripe with this map (and I said it over discord too) was just how forced everything feels. I can get behind the theme of using 1/2 jumps to accentuate the dominating finishes/drums with the song but those aside, the rest of your structure is somewhat confusing both rhythmically and visually (subjective). A lot of the times it goes okay, and then suddenly HIGH SPACING, and then its back to normal, then it's weaker for some reason... and then HIGH SPACING (personally I think it's very overdone but that's just my opinion lols). There's a progression in the music I don't think is captured well that I tried to point out and you can agree or disagree but I'm only trying to be constructive. Thank you for sharing me your map and I hope all goes well with it!
00:05:490 (1,2,3,4) - Probably intentional but it'd feel like this would be similar spacing to 00:04:890 (1,2,3,4) - because the guitar strums the same way. Only difference is for pitch but since the two patterns are near identical, why not just make full identical?
00:07:890 (1) - should be 1/1
00:17:490 (1,2) - could be higher spacing since the last four sliders were gaining spacing too
00:17:040 (2) - one thing I don't like is how this slider has a bit of an odd overlap with the previous object whereas 00:16:590 (1) - doesn't. structurally a tiny bit inconsistent but eh
00:24:540 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I repeated this a few times and the rhythm seems kind of odd because of how you double repeated the sliders for two measures first.. I found that using two repeat sliders first, and then the 1/2 jumps, and then the repeat sliders again, followed by the 1/2 jumps again compliment the music. Only because your AABB rhythm choice is quite extreme with intensities, it doesn't get enough of buildup imo. If follow ABAB pattern, the first AB can be weak spacing and the last AB can be stronger for more proper buildup rather than just throwing 1/2 jumps at the player where the music doesn't change much at all.
00:27:240 (1,2,3,4) - This feels a bit strange because it's patterned similarly to before but the music is much different here
00:28:440 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Not sure i understand your rhythm choice here. The first couple sliders is okay, but then it gets weaker with the repeat sliders, and then drastically much stronger with the 1/2 jumps? It's so off. Don't know if I can suggest much of an alternative but going mid->weak->strong is very confusing. either make cleaner progression weak->mid->strong or some sort of consistency with rhythm choice.
00:32:940 (3,4) - antijump kind of stops all flows. i'd just place 4 as a decently spaced jump from 3
00:35:940 (1,2) - Here I don't understand the repeat sliders either. The sliders before were making sense but then it goes back to being weak and suddenly strong again with the jumps afterwards. Using the same 1/2 sliders as before (maybe with more deviated spacing) would progress with the song more smoothly. I mean, the drums are quite literally all the same
00:40:740 (1,2) - If you plan to use the repeats from the previous measure just make these as 1/2 sliders for steadier rhythm. It'll help lead into the jumps again
00:43:290 (2) - could make as angled slider since everything around it is a bit angled
00:43:740 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - so like going through this thing again I'm just certain you have trouble with rhythmic consistencies or your purposefully trying to make the map awkward for the player. I'll try to explain this a bit better:
00:42:840 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - is all the same in the music, the only difference is the pitch in the guitar. What this means is if you want a clean progression with the song (for buildup), use weaker density first and then gradually more intense which isn't what you did because the two repeat sliders in the middle do this weird mid->weak->strong density that the music doesn't change for it. It's also possible to keep everything the same rhythmically but that might be boring, although, it'd follow the music a bit more accurately.
00:44:640 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Here you're combining two different measures together which is rhythmically inconsistent (mostly because of how the repeat sliders are done from before). What happens is that 00:45:540 (1,2,3) - is an EXTRA beat added to the guitars where the other parts of the phrase only use two sliders for the drums. As in, player clicks for two guitars on both previous rhythm choices but here is three times for seemingly no reason.
00:45:990 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is probably okay but man, the progression to these moments need to be a bit more progressive or obvious because currently it's incredibly forced.
00:50:940 (3,4) - might be better as a slider so that the actual jumps afterwards stand out a bit more to the music.
00:55:740 (3,4) -
01:08:490 (2,3,1,2) - flow is really strange here
01:10:290 (4,1,2,3,4) - I don't understand this pattern here. Only on 01:10:740 (3) - does the dominant drum make an appearance but you already start a jump pattern before music changes so... yeah.
might want to add a circle 01:09:690 - to fill that rhythmic gap (again with the idea of steady progression) and make 01:10:440 (1) - as a 1/2 slider. With the slider you can pattern the next two objects and the NC to increase in spacing as you did and it'd /feel/ more buildup than just throwing jumps around
01:11:640 (1) - 1/2 slider and 01:12:690 - circle since the rhythmic gap is a bit strange... it's very weird to buildup with jumps and then just stop the rhythm for a measure. With dominating drums again like here 01:13:440 (1,2,3,4) - you can space these out a bit more for the resolution but would need a bit more rhythm to work with in previous measure.
01:21:090 (2) - weak beat but higher spacing than 01:20:940 (1) - ?
01:28:440 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - incredibly forced pattern.... .. .. . it's almost implied to be treated similarly to 01:24:840 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - but they're different so why not just make it similar to 01:20:040 (1,2,3,1,2) - because it's literally the exact same part of the music.
01:30:690 (4) - weak beat is higher spacing again, a bit backwards to the rhythm.
01:55:290 (2,3) - flow is strange
01:57:240 (1,2,3) - here maybe too. only cuz it goes left to right but the repeat stop that left/right motion a bit
02:02:490 (2) - should also be circles like how you did it 02:00:090 (2,3) - but honestly the whole circle spam is so forced man... lol like why do u do dis xD
many circles in succession imply that it's intense and should be everything clickable but the music more like draaaaining so i mean, sliders are okay to use too yknow xd and especially because using sliders would REALLY help make the yknow, super strong vocals/drums stand out here 02:02:940 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
if everything is just as circle spams, it's so hard to emphasize the actual strong parts of the song with circles because well, everything is circles yah
02:04:440 - You could actually make a pretty clean break here up until 02:11:640 (1) - or 02:14:040 (1) - The break will help the previous jumps stand out even more since they're REALLY strong vocals/drums compared to the rest.
02:26:040 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2) - rhythm here is backwards. weak measure has all your jumps (it's weak because its 3rd measure and pitch of guitar is lower) and the strong measure has less density (it's strong because 4th measure is naturally the stronger measure in a phrase and the pitch of guitar is higher).
02:29:040 (3) - this spacing is ludicrous wtf
02:41:340 (5,6,1,2) - these don't exist in the music man, dominating drum starts 02:41:940 (3) -
02:51:240 (1,2,3,4) - if you want these as circles make them a bit weaker so that 02:51:840 (1,2,3,4,1) - is visibly stronger because currently it all feels too similar.
like why is 03:24:540 (3,1) - so cross-spaced and 03:25:740 (3,1) - much weaker. the weaker jump doesn't matter since it's a comfortable spacing you used for the rest but that first one i linked is waaaay too high lol
03:37:140 (2) - repeat on strong beat :puke:
03:39:090 (1,1) - I think a break feels better here since the sliders don't serve much of a purpose except to fill some gaps.
04:02:940 (1,2,1) - could also be a 'tactical' break. it would make 04:05:490 (1,2,3,4,1) - stand out much more
04:07:890 (1,2,1) - same idea here as a break to make 04:10:290 (1,2,3,4,1) - stand out etc with other similar moments up until 04:19:890 (1) -
05:01:590 (4,5,6) - jumps dont exist here yet
05:37:440 (1) - i.. don't know about this one ? if anything, remove a 1/4 repeat to give it a bit more buffer
My biggest gripe with this map (and I said it over discord too) was just how forced everything feels. I can get behind the theme of using 1/2 jumps to accentuate the dominating finishes/drums with the song but those aside, the rest of your structure is somewhat confusing both rhythmically and visually (subjective). A lot of the times it goes okay, and then suddenly HIGH SPACING, and then its back to normal, then it's weaker for some reason... and then HIGH SPACING (personally I think it's very overdone but that's just my opinion lols). There's a progression in the music I don't think is captured well that I tried to point out and you can agree or disagree but I'm only trying to be constructive. Thank you for sharing me your map and I hope all goes well with it!
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reminder to reply to this
also nerfed / remapped jumps from irc with turquoise earlier, forgot to mention that
also nerfed / remapped jumps from irc with turquoise earlier, forgot to mention that
Topic Starter
Kroytz wrote:
500th postmod00:03:540 (4) - would it make more sense as a circle+slider instead of using the repeat? similar thing to 00:01:740 (2,3) - is what I'm thinking ok
00:05:490 (1,2,3,4) - Probably intentional but it'd feel like this would be similar spacing to 00:04:890 (1,2,3,4) - because the guitar strums the same way. Only difference is for pitch but since the two patterns are near identical, why not just make full identical? fixed
00:07:890 (1) - should be 1/1 there's definitely a bass drum hit on the red tick
00:17:490 (1,2) - could be higher spacing since the last four sliders were gaining spacing too fine as is, there's no snare drums on those sliders so they aren't intensified as much
00:17:040 (2) - one thing I don't like is how this slider has a bit of an odd overlap with the previous object whereas 00:16:590 (1) - doesn't. structurally a tiny bit inconsistent but eh i don't really think it's a huge problem tbh
00:24:540 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I repeated this a few times and the rhythm seems kind of odd because of how you double repeated the sliders for two measures first.. I found that using two repeat sliders first, and then the 1/2 jumps, and then the repeat sliders again, followed by the 1/2 jumps again compliment the music. Only because your AABB rhythm choice is quite extreme with intensities, it doesn't get enough of buildup imo. If follow ABAB pattern, the first AB can be weak spacing and the last AB can be stronger for more proper buildup rather than just throwing 1/2 jumps at the player where the music doesn't change much at all. changed rhythm of 00:28:890 (2,3) - this here to address this issue, can't really do it for 00:33:690 (2) - due to the patterning though
00:27:240 (1,2,3,4) - This feels a bit strange because it's patterned similarly to before but the music is much different here eh, the AR makes this playable and readable so not a big issue either, emphasizes what it needs to
00:28:440 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Not sure i understand your rhythm choice here. The first couple sliders is okay, but then it gets weaker with the repeat sliders, and then drastically much stronger with the 1/2 jumps? It's so off. Don't know if I can suggest much of an alternative but going mid->weak->strong is very confusing. either make cleaner progression weak->mid->strong or some sort of consistency with rhythm choice. fixed this above anyway
00:32:940 (3,4) - antijump kind of stops all flows. i'd just place 4 as a decently spaced jump from 3 ok
00:35:940 (1,2) - Here I don't understand the repeat sliders either. The sliders before were making sense but then it goes back to being weak and suddenly strong again with the jumps afterwards. Using the same 1/2 sliders as before (maybe with more deviated spacing) would progress with the song more smoothly. I mean, the drums are quite literally all the same i can't really fix this without redoing this entire section, and i feel like adding repeat sliders here would help keep the rhythm changes at least somewhat consistent
00:40:740 (1,2) - If you plan to use the repeats from the previous measure just make these as 1/2 sliders for steadier rhythm. It'll help lead into the jumps again i mean the first pattern isn't even a jump so
00:43:290 (2) - could make as angled slider since everything around it is a bit angled eeeeee but the loops would be out of place then
00:43:740 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - so like going through this thing again I'm just certain you have trouble with rhythmic consistencies or your purposefully trying to make the map awkward for the player. I'll try to explain this a bit better:
00:42:840 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - is all the same in the music, the only difference is the pitch in the guitar. What this means is if you want a clean progression with the song (for buildup), use weaker density first and then gradually more intense which isn't what you did because the two repeat sliders in the middle do this weird mid->weak->strong density that the music doesn't change for it. It's also possible to keep everything the same rhythmically but that might be boring, although, it'd follow the music a bit more accurately.
00:44:640 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Here you're combining two different measures together which is rhythmically inconsistent (mostly because of how the repeat sliders are done from before). What happens is that 00:45:540 (1,2,3) - is an EXTRA beat added to the guitars where the other parts of the phrase only use two sliders for the drums. As in, player clicks for two guitars on both previous rhythm choices but here is three times for seemingly no reason.
00:45:990 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is probably okay but man, the progression to these moments need to be a bit more progressive or obvious because currently it's incredibly forced. fixed the repeat slider issue here which should cover everything you pointed out i think, pm me if it didnt cuz i might've not understood everything here
00:50:940 (3,4) - might be better as a slider so that the actual jumps afterwards stand out a bit more to the music.
00:55:740 (3,4) - there's very two potent claps here that i'd like to keep emphasized
01:08:490 (2,3,1,2) - flow is really strange here i don't see a big issue here tho?
01:10:290 (4,1,2,3,4) - I don't understand this pattern here. Only on 01:10:740 (3) - does the dominant drum make an appearance but you already start a jump pattern before music changes so... yeah.
might want to add a circle 01:09:690 - to fill that rhythmic gap (again with the idea of steady progression) and make 01:10:440 (1) - as a 1/2 slider. With the slider you can pattern the next two objects and the NC to increase in spacing as you did and it'd /feel/ more buildup than just throwing jumps around ok to adding circle but i don't see the need to make it a 1/2 slider
01:11:640 (1) - 1/2 slider and 01:12:690 - circle since the rhythmic gap is a bit strange... it's very weird to buildup with jumps and then just stop the rhythm for a measure. With dominating drums again like here 01:13:440 (1,2,3,4) - you can space these out a bit more for the resolution but would need a bit more rhythm to work with in previous measure. changed this differently
01:21:090 (2) - weak beat but higher spacing than 01:20:940 (1) - ? oh whoops
01:28:440 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - incredibly forced pattern.... .. .. . it's almost implied to be treated similarly to 01:24:840 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - but they're different so why not just make it similar to 01:20:040 (1,2,3,1,2) - because it's literally the exact same part of the music. ok
01:30:690 (4) - weak beat is higher spacing again, a bit backwards to the rhythm. reduced slightly
01:55:290 (2,3) - flow is strange yea idk how this is strange tbh lol
01:57:240 (1,2,3) - here maybe too. only cuz it goes left to right but the repeat stop that left/right motion a bit ^
02:02:490 (2) - should also be circles like how you did it 02:00:090 (2,3) - but honestly the whole circle spam is so forced man... lol like why do u do dis xD
many circles in succession imply that it's intense and should be everything clickable but the music more like draaaaining so i mean, sliders are okay to use too yknow xd and especially because using sliders would REALLY help make the yknow, super strong vocals/drums stand out here 02:02:940 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
if everything is just as circle spams, it's so hard to emphasize the actual strong parts of the song with circles because well, everything is circles yah i mean, i tried emphasizing the strong parts with increased spacing so i don't see a huge issue tbh
02:04:440 - You could actually make a pretty clean break here up until 02:11:640 (1) - or 02:14:040 (1) - The break will help the previous jumps stand out even more since they're REALLY strong vocals/drums compared to the rest. i mean the spacing change kinda already does that so idk
02:26:040 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2) - rhythm here is backwards. weak measure has all your jumps (it's weak because its 3rd measure and pitch of guitar is lower) and the strong measure has less density (it's strong because 4th measure is naturally the stronger measure in a phrase and the pitch of guitar is higher). ehh i kinda want to change the rhythm up here anyways compared to the other section
02:29:040 (3) - this spacing is ludicrous wtf Woops Lol
02:41:340 (5,6,1,2) - these don't exist in the music man, dominating drum starts 02:41:940 (3) - bro what
02:51:240 (1,2,3,4) - if you want these as circles make them a bit weaker so that 02:51:840 (1,2,3,4,1) - is visibly stronger because currently it all feels too similar. reduced spacing
like why is 03:24:540 (3,1) - so cross-spaced and 03:25:740 (3,1) - much weaker. the weaker jump doesn't matter since it's a comfortable spacing you used for the rest but that first one i linked is waaaay too high lol i mean, cymbals are crashing everywhere and basically the entirety of the song here is at its most intense point so i try representing that
03:37:140 (2) - repeat on strong beat :puke: yeayaewjja4hjamjhreg
03:39:090 (1,1) - I think a break feels better here since the sliders don't serve much of a purpose except to fill some gaps. definitely consider this but as of rn i think it's fine since it follows guitar
04:02:940 (1,2,1) - could also be a 'tactical' break. it would make 04:05:490 (1,2,3,4,1) - stand out much more i don't really see a point in doing this tbh
04:07:890 (1,2,1) - same idea here as a break to make 04:10:290 (1,2,3,4,1) - stand out etc with other similar moments up until 04:19:890 (1) - ^
05:01:590 (4,5,6) - jumps dont exist here yet this is like barely a jump tbh
05:37:440 (1) - i.. don't know about this one ? if anything, remove a 1/4 repeat to give it a bit more buffer it's fine as is, no one broke on it ever and the sv was reduced already
My biggest gripe with this map (and I said it over discord too) was just how forced everything feels. I can get behind the theme of using 1/2 jumps to accentuate the dominating finishes/drums with the song but those aside, the rest of your structure is somewhat confusing both rhythmically and visually (subjective). A lot of the times it goes okay, and then suddenly HIGH SPACING, and then its back to normal, then it's weaker for some reason... and then HIGH SPACING (personally I think it's very overdone but that's just my opinion lols). There's a progression in the music I don't think is captured well that I tried to point out and you can agree or disagree but I'm only trying to be constructive. Thank you for sharing me your map and I hope all goes well with it!
well since I applied most of your mod hopefully those issues were fixed as I relooked over the map as well o/
ty!
Topic Starter
irc with squirrel
2017-09-25 20:21 squirrelpascals: 00:07:440 (2,1) -
2017-09-25 20:21 squirrelpascals: dont like your use of reapeats here because it kind of neglects the cymbals playing here
2017-09-25 20:22 fieryrage: o
2017-09-25 20:22 fieryrage: right shit
2017-09-25 20:22 fieryrage: i forgot to replace those with the
2017-09-25 20:22 squirrelpascals: or just at 00:07:890 (1) -
2017-09-25 20:22 squirrelpascals: because this 00:06:090 (1,2,1,2) - is structured
2017-09-25 20:22 fieryrage: 00:03:540 (4,5) -
2017-09-25 20:22 fieryrage: stuff i did here
2017-09-25 20:22 squirrelpascals: that would work yeah
2017-09-25 20:22 squirrelpascals: also 00:08:340 (2,3) - feels way overspaced
2017-09-25 20:23 squirrelpascals: compare it to the strength of 00:09:690 (1,2) -
2017-09-25 20:25 squirrelpascals: tell me when you fix things btw so i can pace things quickly enough
2017-09-25 20:25 fieryrage: ok
2017-09-25 20:25 fieryrage: i fixed ALL thos
2017-09-25 20:26 squirrelpascals: k
2017-09-25 20:26 squirrelpascals: 00:12:990 (6) - this is the only time where you dont make that guitar note clickable
2017-09-25 20:26 squirrelpascals: in 00:10:890 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) -
2017-09-25 20:26 squirrelpascals: leads to less integrity in what youre mapping to
2017-09-25 20:27 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178513
2017-09-25 20:27 fieryrage: this is fine btw right
2017-09-25 20:27 fieryrage: and ppl told me the rhythm there was shit if i did that
2017-09-25 20:27 squirrelpascals: yeah no prob with that
2017-09-25 20:27 fieryrage: something about like
2017-09-25 20:27 fieryrage: emphasis on the clap
2017-09-25 20:27 fieryrage: was lost
2017-09-25 20:27 fieryrage: if i didnt have the clickable slider there
2017-09-25 20:28 fieryrage: so i dont even know
2017-09-25 20:28 fieryrage: i also found a misplaced whistle due to that so We
2017-09-25 20:28 fieryrage: my main issue with that would be
2017-09-25 20:28 fieryrage: having it flow into 00:13:290 (1) - this slider
2017-09-25 20:28 fieryrage: if i did change it
2017-09-25 20:29 squirrelpascals: i disagree cuz it feels like youre randomly ignoring the guitar by leaving it at a sliderend
2017-09-25 20:29 fieryrage: Fuck You Linkin Park
2017-09-25 20:29 fieryrage: ok lemme see if i can do smth
2017-09-25 20:29 squirrelpascals: ok
2017-09-25 20:29 squirrelpascals: making it two circles would work
2017-09-25 20:29 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178526
2017-09-25 20:29 fieryrage: this is AIDS
2017-09-25 20:29 fieryrage: holy Fuc
2017-09-25 20:30 fieryrage: ok i found a better alternative
2017-09-25 20:30 fieryrage: 00:13:590 (2) - i just overlapped the new hitcircle with this
2017-09-25 20:30 fieryrage: also repositioned 00:12:990 (6) - to overlap 00:12:540 (4) - because otherwise the jump is like
2017-09-25 20:30 fieryrage: ew
2017-09-25 20:30 squirrelpascals: oh okay
2017-09-25 20:31 squirrelpascals: wait can you screenshot instead of describing word for word xd
2017-09-25 20:31 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178531
2017-09-25 20:31 fieryrage: THIS bRo
2017-09-25 20:31 squirrelpascals: okay thats better
2017-09-25 20:34 squirrelpascals: 00:37:440 (1) - make a kickslider?
2017-09-25 20:34 squirrelpascals: would br more consistent with how you handle 00:32:640 (1,2,3) - wtc
2017-09-25 20:34 fieryrage: YEa
2017-09-25 20:34 squirrelpascals: etc.
2017-09-25 20:34 fieryrage: Ok
2017-09-25 20:36 squirrelpascals: 01:10:440 (1,2,3) -
2017-09-25 20:36 squirrelpascals: spacing at 1,2 is still aids xd
2017-09-25 20:36 fieryrage: GOD
2017-09-25 20:36 fieryrage: Damnite
2017-09-25 20:36 fieryrage: ok heres my thought process
2017-09-25 20:36 fieryrage: behind that
2017-09-25 20:36 fieryrage: i wanted to emphasize the clap there
2017-09-25 20:36 fieryrage: and literally everyone pointed that out and saying its gay and i shouldnt do it but
2017-09-25 20:36 fieryrage: 01:10:440 (1,2,4) -
2017-09-25 20:37 fieryrage: like LOOK HOW PRETTY THIS LOPOKS
2017-09-25 20:37 fieryrage: I WAS SO HAPPY WITH THIS
2017-09-25 20:38 squirrelpascals: okay lets compromise
2017-09-25 20:38 squirrelpascals: https://i.imgur.com/yVvTMKH.png
2017-09-25 20:38 fieryrage: its ok i fixed it already
2017-09-25 20:38 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178559
2017-09-25 20:38 squirrelpascals: oh or that works
2017-09-25 20:39 fieryrage: Fieryrage Has Ur bAck
2017-09-25 20:39 squirrelpascals: :thumbs_up:
2017-09-25 20:40 squirrelpascals: 01:11:640 (1,2) -
2017-09-25 20:40 squirrelpascals: this is minor but
2017-09-25 20:40 squirrelpascals: i feel like this would sound better wiht 2 on a passive beat
2017-09-25 20:40 squirrelpascals: because its in the song but its quiet xd
2017-09-25 20:40 fieryrage: so a slider
2017-09-25 20:40 fieryrage: ok
2017-09-25 20:40 squirrelpascals: yes
2017-09-25 20:41 squirrelpascals: i word it like that to make it sound like you have more options
2017-09-25 20:41 squirrelpascals: 01:13:440 (1,2,3,4) - increase spacing here?
2017-09-25 20:41 fieryrage: yea but i got big brain and know what u mean
2017-09-25 20:41 squirrelpascals: :^)
2017-09-25 20:41 squirrelpascals: because theres an obv build up there and its spaced less than before
2017-09-25 20:43 fieryrage: increased spacing of 01:13:740 (3,4) - but i dont think the first two is necessary tbh
2017-09-25 20:43 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178573
2017-09-25 20:43 squirrelpascals: yeah that works
2017-09-25 20:43 squirrelpascals: okay yeah
2017-09-25 20:43 squirrelpascals: even if its minor its a weaker snare so i dont mind
2017-09-25 20:46 squirrelpascals: 01:56:640 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2017-09-25 20:46 squirrelpascals: curved unevenly
2017-09-25 20:46 squirrelpascals: UNRANKABLE
((
2017-09-25 20:47 fieryrage: Mad?
2017-09-25 20:47 fieryrage: U mad bro??????
2017-09-25 20:47 fieryrage: Lol1!!
2017-09-25 20:47 squirrelpascals: xDD!!
2017-09-25 20:47 fieryrage: if thats curved unevenly btw then like literally all the bursts are
2017-09-25 20:48 squirrelpascals: i didnt notive it on the others
2017-09-25 20:48 squirrelpascals: so meh
2017-09-25 20:48 fieryrage: ok but that takes effort to fix and i zzzz
2017-09-25 20:48 squirrelpascals: 02:02:940 (1,2) - feel like you should increase spacing here a bit to match sudden intensity of vocals
2017-09-25 20:49 fieryrage: ok
2017-09-25 20:49 squirrelpascals: i see what you were doing here with spacing tho and thats p cool
2017-09-25 20:49 fieryrage: increased slightly
2017-09-25 20:49 squirrelpascals: btw bursts are super minor i could care less
2017-09-25 20:49 fieryrage: Thats what they want u to think
2017-09-25 20:50 squirrelpascals: :O
2017-09-25 20:51 squirrelpascals: 02:17:340 (3,1) - stop in flow here is inconsistent from 02:15:540 (3,4) - and 02:19:290 (2,3,4) -
2017-09-25 20:51 squirrelpascals: recommend making 02:17:340 (3) - a slider
2017-09-25 20:52 fieryrage: dude how the fuck are u the only person that pointed this out
2017-09-25 20:52 squirrelpascals: xd
2017-09-25 20:52 squirrelpascals: by the way no kd
2017-09-25 20:52 squirrelpascals: because i already modded lOl
2017-09-25 20:53 fieryrage: Yea bro
2017-09-25 20:53 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178609
2017-09-25 20:53 fieryrage: i love aids patterns
2017-09-25 20:55 squirrelpascals: aight
2017-09-25 20:55 squirrelpascals: 02:30:090 (5,6,7,1,2) -
2017-09-25 20:55 squirrelpascals: recommend lowering rhythm density here with a slider or smth to add more contrast with 02:30:840 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - kiai part
2017-09-25 20:55 fieryrage: also
2017-09-25 20:55 fieryrage: 02:28:890 (2,3) -
2017-09-25 20:55 fieryrage: should this be a triple
2017-09-25 20:55 fieryrage: cuz i never do a direct stack like this
2017-09-25 20:56 fieryrage: and its technically supported in the song
2017-09-25 20:56 fieryrage: also added slider to 6 and 7
2017-09-25 20:56 squirrelpascals: i dont hear a beat there so no :p
2017-09-25 20:56 fieryrage: or actually wait
2017-09-25 20:56 fieryrage: no if i do that then the introduction to the higher spacing gets screwed
2017-09-25 20:56 squirrelpascals: also thank you for overmapping triples less in this kind of map
2017-09-25 20:57 squirrelpascals: just space the two
2017-09-25 20:57 fieryrage: He Says That Now But Just Wait Until He Sees The NEsxt section
2017-09-25 20:58 fieryrage: idk its hard to make a pattern that flows well and introduces the high spacing using a slider there
2017-09-25 20:58 squirrelpascals: i dont mind the direct stack there at all tbh
2017-09-25 20:59 fieryrage: bro im tttttttttttttalkin about
2017-09-25 20:59 fieryrage: 02:30:240 (6,7) -
2017-09-25 20:59 fieryrage: This
2017-09-25 20:59 squirrelpascals: yeah that works
2017-09-25 20:59 squirrelpascals: making that a slider
2017-09-25 20:59 fieryrage: yea but i feel like itd just be
2017-09-25 20:59 squirrelpascals: it just makes it feel less 12 jump spammy
2017-09-25 20:59 fieryrage: ruining the growing emphasis leading up to the jump part
2017-09-25 20:59 squirrelpascals: not that this map isnt
2017-09-25 21:00 fieryrage: yea i was about to say
2017-09-25 21:00 fieryrage: u on dumb
2017-09-25 21:00 fieryrage: but alright i guess ill see what i can do
2017-09-25 21:00 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178626
2017-09-25 21:00 fieryrage: see like
2017-09-25 21:00 fieryrage: now this looks ugly
2017-09-25 21:00 fieryrage: cuz of the Fuckin Sldierned
2017-09-25 21:00 fieryrage: hofdlygb fu
2017-09-25 21:01 squirrelpascals: 02:29:940 (4,5) -
2017-09-25 21:01 squirrelpascals: try making this a slider instead?
2017-09-25 21:01 squirrelpascals: if you cant make it work its just a recommendation but it would be an improvement
2017-09-25 21:01 fieryrage: ye idk
2017-09-25 21:02 fieryrage: if i can think of smth at the end of the mod ill do it
2017-09-25 21:02 fieryrage: but theres too many overlaps n stuff in this section that anything would just
2017-09-25 21:02 fieryrage: screw it up aesthetically
2017-09-25 21:02 fieryrage: so rip
2017-09-25 21:02 squirrelpascals: okay moving on
2017-09-25 21:02 squirrelpascals: 02:33:690 (2,3,4) - i dont hear a triple here :///
2017-09-25 21:03 fieryrage: ok time to remove all the triples that pishi told me to add
2017-09-25 21:03 fieryrage: tbh i got so used to it in the other ranked version that i thought there were actual sounds there
2017-09-25 21:03 squirrelpascals: why did he tell you to add them
2017-09-25 21:03 fieryrage: he felt like the density was weird otherwise
2017-09-25 21:03 fieryrage: idfk
2017-09-25 21:03 fieryrage: this was like
2017-09-25 21:03 fieryrage: 5 months ago tho
2017-09-25 21:04 fieryrage: anyway removed all of them in the section they're just direct stacks now
2017-09-25 21:04 fieryrage: so i guess it helps the other direct stack lul
2017-09-25 21:04 fieryrage: idk though honestly it feels like those triples are actually there
2017-09-25 21:05 squirrelpascals: i dont hear the sounds there
2017-09-25 21:05 squirrelpascals: wait let me check the other set
2017-09-25 21:05 fieryrage: it overmaps
2017-09-25 21:05 fieryrage: WAY more than i do
2017-09-25 21:06 fieryrage: so like i dont even know
2017-09-25 21:06 squirrelpascals: 2015 Overmapping Inc.
2017-09-25 21:06 fieryrage: im just gonna keep them if the other bn tells me This Shit Gay ill remove
2017-09-25 21:08 squirrelpascals: alright
2017-09-25 21:08 squirrelpascals: some people like to do that whole "triples for emphasis" type of thing
2017-09-25 21:08 squirrelpascals: but i think theres a time and place for it
2017-09-25 21:09 squirrelpascals: soooooo movign on
2017-09-25 21:13 squirrelpascals: 03:18:540 (4) -
2017-09-25 21:14 squirrelpascals: make this two circles for consistency with the jumps before + intence vocals
2017-09-25 21:14 fieryrage: OOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo00000000ok
2017-09-25 21:15 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178668 this probably looks ugly in hindsight but idgaf
2017-09-25 21:16 squirrelpascals: works
2017-09-25 21:18 squirrelpascals: 03:44:640 (1) - 03:49:440 (1) - the sv increase here feels p dramatic because in gameplay the snare is only subtly different form 03:48:240 (4) -
2017-09-25 21:18 squirrelpascals: woudl just recommend lowering it to be less dramatic
2017-09-25 21:19 squirrelpascals: 03:54:240 (1) - also could you do some similar circular aesthetic here to fit in with the slliders i mentioned
2017-09-25 21:19 fieryrage: i dont really wanna reduce the sv because i feel like it's a lot more intense there and even then it doesn't increase too much to affect gameplay much
2017-09-25 21:19 fieryrage: as for the aesthetic thing then id be not mapping the vocal and i wanna map that
2017-09-25 21:22 squirrelpascals: even like .75 would feel better
2017-09-25 21:22 squirrelpascals: they just dont sound that different
2017-09-25 21:22 fieryrage: .75 is the sv i have
2017-09-25 21:22 fieryrage: wait
2017-09-25 21:22 fieryrage: wtf
2017-09-25 21:22 fieryrage: ok
2017-09-25 21:22 squirrelpascals: you have 1 lolol
2017-09-25 21:23 fieryrage: Ok Fix
2017-09-25 21:24 squirrelpascals: be sure to get all of them
2017-09-25 21:24 squirrelpascals: 04:27:840 (1) -
2017-09-25 21:24 fieryrage: yea
2017-09-25 21:24 fieryrage: i did
2017-09-25 21:26 squirrelpascals: 04:56:190 (2,3,4,5,1,2) -
2017-09-25 21:26 squirrelpascals: same situation here with that 1/2 slider
2017-09-25 21:26 squirrelpascals: or whatever slider
2017-09-25 21:26 squirrelpascals: to contrast with the next jump part
2017-09-25 21:26 squirrelpascals: just think about it
2017-09-25 21:26 fieryrage: ok
2017-09-25 21:27 squirrelpascals: because imo these 04:51:240 (1,2,3) - sound a lot more cohesiv
2017-09-25 21:27 squirrelpascals: e
2017-09-25 21:27 squirrelpascals: 04:59:640 (1,2) - spacing feels quite low here
2017-09-25 21:27 squirrelpascals: maybe move 1 up
2017-09-25 21:28 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178703
2017-09-25 21:28 fieryrage: kinda readjusted the entire pattern
2017-09-25 21:29 squirrelpascals: that works
2017-09-25 21:30 fieryrage: also 05:06:540 (4) - i already fixed this
2017-09-25 21:30 fieryrage: from previous one
2017-09-25 21:31 squirrelpascals: thank you
2017-09-25 21:31 squirrelpascals: i was going to point that out xd
2017-09-25 21:31 squirrelpascals: 05:17:490 (1) - s l i d e r point s
2017-09-25 21:31 fieryrage: U MAD????????????
2017-09-25 21:32 squirrelpascals: LOL!
2017-09-25 21:32 squirrelpascals: 05:20:640 (1) -
2017-09-25 21:32 squirrelpascals: this might be offscreen
2017-09-25 21:32 squirrelpascals: yeah im sure it is
2017-09-25 21:32 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178712
2017-09-25 21:32 fieryrage: is this offscreens till
2017-09-25 21:33 squirrelpascals: i think its better
2017-09-25 21:33 squirrelpascals: ill change window rl quick and check
2017-09-25 21:33 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178718
2017-09-25 21:33 fieryrage: this shouldnt be at all
2017-09-25 21:33 fieryrage: so
2017-09-25 21:33 fieryrage: yeee EEEe
2017-09-25 21:34 squirrelpascals: yeah youre good there
2017-09-25 21:34 fieryrage: ok
2017-09-25 21:35 squirrelpascals: 05:25:140 (1) - why the slowdown here?
2017-09-25 21:35 fieryrage: to give emphasis to the guitar
2017-09-25 21:36 squirrelpascals: oky
2017-09-25 21:36 squirrelpascals: alien got RANKED so ugly sliders are okay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2017-09-25 21:36 squirrelpascals: 05:37:440 (1) -
2017-09-25 21:36 fieryrage: YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA#$
2017-09-25 21:37 squirrelpascals: its actually justified tho lol
2017-09-25 21:37 squirrelpascals: 05:37:440 (1) -
2017-09-25 21:37 squirrelpascals: but thI SiSNT
2017-09-25 21:37 fieryrage: U MAD????????
2017-09-25 21:37 fieryrage: the guitar is like the most distorted there tho cmon
2017-09-25 21:37 squirrelpascals: 1/8 feels TOO FST HERE
2017-09-25 21:37 fieryrage: Bro just learnt o play lollllll
2017-09-25 21:37 fieryrage: all testplayers never broke on that
2017-09-25 21:37 fieryrage: i think its fine tbh
2017-09-25 21:37 fieryrage: its either that or i make 4x sv slider
2017-09-25 21:38 squirrelpascals: ok my rule for these is that if the head to first reverse arrow of the slider is longer than the hit window for a 300 then its okay
2017-09-25 21:38 squirrelpascals: so okay fine
2017-09-25 21:38 fieryrage: like and rt
2017-09-25 21:39 squirrelpascals: i replied
2017-09-25 21:39 squirrelpascals: 05:36:990 (2,1) -
2017-09-25 21:39 squirrelpascals: might be unrankable
2017-09-25 21:39 fieryrage: yea vinxis also pointed that out but
2017-09-25 21:39 squirrelpascals: https://i.imgur.com/Goh3bDo.png unranka bLE
2017-09-25 21:39 fieryrage: i think since its short enough and its a high level map ppl will know
2017-09-25 21:39 fieryrage: Wow this is 1/8
2017-09-25 21:39 fieryrage: ok ur right actually nevemrind
2017-09-25 21:40 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178729
2017-09-25 21:40 fieryrage: Looks like I Gotta Settle For Thsi.
2017-09-25 21:40 squirrelpascals: yeah thats a good adjustment
2017-09-25 21:40 squirrelpascals: even if it reads fine rankability is rankability
2017-09-25 21:40 fieryrage: Sad!
2017-09-25 21:42 squirrelpascals: 05:42:540 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) -
2017-09-25 21:42 squirrelpascals: it sounds like youre mapping this to the distortion of the guitar
2017-09-25 21:42 squirrelpascals: more than the actual notes of the guitar
2017-09-25 21:42 fieryrage: what do u mean
2017-09-25 21:43 squirrelpascals: im sure that the guitar keeps the 1/2 rhythm here
2017-09-25 21:43 squirrelpascals: like 1/4 slider spam is more justified here
2017-09-25 21:43 fieryrage: when i slow it down i hear distinct 1/4 notes
2017-09-25 21:43 fieryrage: so idk
2017-09-25 21:43 fieryrage: it does the same thing in the ranked vers too
2017-09-25 21:44 squirrelpascals: oh wait
2017-09-25 21:44 squirrelpascals: shIT
2017-09-25 21:44 squirrelpascals: i hear it now
2017-09-25 21:44 fieryrage: Brain Moments
2017-09-25 21:44 squirrelpascals: 05:42:615 (4) - not at this one
2017-09-25 21:44 squirrelpascals: Yes
2017-09-25 21:44 fieryrage: wtf i hear it there too tho
2017-09-25 21:44 squirrelpascals: 05:42:540 (3,4) - just make 3 a kickslider or smth
2017-09-25 21:44 fieryrage: its low pitch but its there
2017-09-25 21:45 squirrelpascals: so ill take it
2017-09-25 21:45 fieryrage: wait ull take it without kickslider or do i have 2
2017-09-25 21:45 squirrelpascals: i think sometimes if i would have mapped these things differently im like
2017-09-25 21:45 squirrelpascals: "this is WRONG!"
2017-09-25 21:45 fieryrage: yea but ur gay LL
2017-09-25 21:45 squirrelpascals: no ill take it without
2017-09-25 21:45 fieryrage: Hold the L
2017-09-25 21:45 squirrelpascals: l
2017-09-25 21:45 fieryrage: thanks
2017-09-25 21:45 squirrelpascals: np
2017-09-25 20:21 squirrelpascals: dont like your use of reapeats here because it kind of neglects the cymbals playing here
2017-09-25 20:22 fieryrage: o
2017-09-25 20:22 fieryrage: right shit
2017-09-25 20:22 fieryrage: i forgot to replace those with the
2017-09-25 20:22 squirrelpascals: or just at 00:07:890 (1) -
2017-09-25 20:22 squirrelpascals: because this 00:06:090 (1,2,1,2) - is structured
2017-09-25 20:22 fieryrage: 00:03:540 (4,5) -
2017-09-25 20:22 fieryrage: stuff i did here
2017-09-25 20:22 squirrelpascals: that would work yeah
2017-09-25 20:22 squirrelpascals: also 00:08:340 (2,3) - feels way overspaced
2017-09-25 20:23 squirrelpascals: compare it to the strength of 00:09:690 (1,2) -
2017-09-25 20:25 squirrelpascals: tell me when you fix things btw so i can pace things quickly enough
2017-09-25 20:25 fieryrage: ok
2017-09-25 20:25 fieryrage: i fixed ALL thos
2017-09-25 20:26 squirrelpascals: k
2017-09-25 20:26 squirrelpascals: 00:12:990 (6) - this is the only time where you dont make that guitar note clickable
2017-09-25 20:26 squirrelpascals: in 00:10:890 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) -
2017-09-25 20:26 squirrelpascals: leads to less integrity in what youre mapping to
2017-09-25 20:27 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178513
2017-09-25 20:27 fieryrage: this is fine btw right
2017-09-25 20:27 fieryrage: and ppl told me the rhythm there was shit if i did that
2017-09-25 20:27 squirrelpascals: yeah no prob with that
2017-09-25 20:27 fieryrage: something about like
2017-09-25 20:27 fieryrage: emphasis on the clap
2017-09-25 20:27 fieryrage: was lost
2017-09-25 20:27 fieryrage: if i didnt have the clickable slider there
2017-09-25 20:28 fieryrage: so i dont even know
2017-09-25 20:28 fieryrage: i also found a misplaced whistle due to that so We
2017-09-25 20:28 fieryrage: my main issue with that would be
2017-09-25 20:28 fieryrage: having it flow into 00:13:290 (1) - this slider
2017-09-25 20:28 fieryrage: if i did change it
2017-09-25 20:29 squirrelpascals: i disagree cuz it feels like youre randomly ignoring the guitar by leaving it at a sliderend
2017-09-25 20:29 fieryrage: Fuck You Linkin Park
2017-09-25 20:29 fieryrage: ok lemme see if i can do smth
2017-09-25 20:29 squirrelpascals: ok
2017-09-25 20:29 squirrelpascals: making it two circles would work
2017-09-25 20:29 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178526
2017-09-25 20:29 fieryrage: this is AIDS
2017-09-25 20:29 fieryrage: holy Fuc
2017-09-25 20:30 fieryrage: ok i found a better alternative
2017-09-25 20:30 fieryrage: 00:13:590 (2) - i just overlapped the new hitcircle with this
2017-09-25 20:30 fieryrage: also repositioned 00:12:990 (6) - to overlap 00:12:540 (4) - because otherwise the jump is like
2017-09-25 20:30 fieryrage: ew
2017-09-25 20:30 squirrelpascals: oh okay
2017-09-25 20:31 squirrelpascals: wait can you screenshot instead of describing word for word xd
2017-09-25 20:31 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178531
2017-09-25 20:31 fieryrage: THIS bRo
2017-09-25 20:31 squirrelpascals: okay thats better
2017-09-25 20:34 squirrelpascals: 00:37:440 (1) - make a kickslider?
2017-09-25 20:34 squirrelpascals: would br more consistent with how you handle 00:32:640 (1,2,3) - wtc
2017-09-25 20:34 fieryrage: YEa
2017-09-25 20:34 squirrelpascals: etc.
2017-09-25 20:34 fieryrage: Ok
2017-09-25 20:36 squirrelpascals: 01:10:440 (1,2,3) -
2017-09-25 20:36 squirrelpascals: spacing at 1,2 is still aids xd
2017-09-25 20:36 fieryrage: GOD
2017-09-25 20:36 fieryrage: Damnite
2017-09-25 20:36 fieryrage: ok heres my thought process
2017-09-25 20:36 fieryrage: behind that
2017-09-25 20:36 fieryrage: i wanted to emphasize the clap there
2017-09-25 20:36 fieryrage: and literally everyone pointed that out and saying its gay and i shouldnt do it but
2017-09-25 20:36 fieryrage: 01:10:440 (1,2,4) -
2017-09-25 20:37 fieryrage: like LOOK HOW PRETTY THIS LOPOKS
2017-09-25 20:37 fieryrage: I WAS SO HAPPY WITH THIS
2017-09-25 20:38 squirrelpascals: okay lets compromise
2017-09-25 20:38 squirrelpascals: https://i.imgur.com/yVvTMKH.png
2017-09-25 20:38 fieryrage: its ok i fixed it already
2017-09-25 20:38 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178559
2017-09-25 20:38 squirrelpascals: oh or that works
2017-09-25 20:39 fieryrage: Fieryrage Has Ur bAck
2017-09-25 20:39 squirrelpascals: :thumbs_up:
2017-09-25 20:40 squirrelpascals: 01:11:640 (1,2) -
2017-09-25 20:40 squirrelpascals: this is minor but
2017-09-25 20:40 squirrelpascals: i feel like this would sound better wiht 2 on a passive beat
2017-09-25 20:40 squirrelpascals: because its in the song but its quiet xd
2017-09-25 20:40 fieryrage: so a slider
2017-09-25 20:40 fieryrage: ok
2017-09-25 20:40 squirrelpascals: yes
2017-09-25 20:41 squirrelpascals: i word it like that to make it sound like you have more options
2017-09-25 20:41 squirrelpascals: 01:13:440 (1,2,3,4) - increase spacing here?
2017-09-25 20:41 fieryrage: yea but i got big brain and know what u mean
2017-09-25 20:41 squirrelpascals: :^)
2017-09-25 20:41 squirrelpascals: because theres an obv build up there and its spaced less than before
2017-09-25 20:43 fieryrage: increased spacing of 01:13:740 (3,4) - but i dont think the first two is necessary tbh
2017-09-25 20:43 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178573
2017-09-25 20:43 squirrelpascals: yeah that works
2017-09-25 20:43 squirrelpascals: okay yeah
2017-09-25 20:43 squirrelpascals: even if its minor its a weaker snare so i dont mind
2017-09-25 20:46 squirrelpascals: 01:56:640 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2017-09-25 20:46 squirrelpascals: curved unevenly
2017-09-25 20:46 squirrelpascals: UNRANKABLE
((2017-09-25 20:47 fieryrage: Mad?
2017-09-25 20:47 fieryrage: U mad bro??????
2017-09-25 20:47 fieryrage: Lol1!!
2017-09-25 20:47 squirrelpascals: xDD!!
2017-09-25 20:47 fieryrage: if thats curved unevenly btw then like literally all the bursts are
2017-09-25 20:48 squirrelpascals: i didnt notive it on the others
2017-09-25 20:48 squirrelpascals: so meh
2017-09-25 20:48 fieryrage: ok but that takes effort to fix and i zzzz
2017-09-25 20:48 squirrelpascals: 02:02:940 (1,2) - feel like you should increase spacing here a bit to match sudden intensity of vocals
2017-09-25 20:49 fieryrage: ok
2017-09-25 20:49 squirrelpascals: i see what you were doing here with spacing tho and thats p cool
2017-09-25 20:49 fieryrage: increased slightly
2017-09-25 20:49 squirrelpascals: btw bursts are super minor i could care less
2017-09-25 20:49 fieryrage: Thats what they want u to think
2017-09-25 20:50 squirrelpascals: :O
2017-09-25 20:51 squirrelpascals: 02:17:340 (3,1) - stop in flow here is inconsistent from 02:15:540 (3,4) - and 02:19:290 (2,3,4) -
2017-09-25 20:51 squirrelpascals: recommend making 02:17:340 (3) - a slider
2017-09-25 20:52 fieryrage: dude how the fuck are u the only person that pointed this out
2017-09-25 20:52 squirrelpascals: xd
2017-09-25 20:52 squirrelpascals: by the way no kd
2017-09-25 20:52 squirrelpascals: because i already modded lOl
2017-09-25 20:53 fieryrage: Yea bro
2017-09-25 20:53 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178609
2017-09-25 20:53 fieryrage: i love aids patterns
2017-09-25 20:55 squirrelpascals: aight
2017-09-25 20:55 squirrelpascals: 02:30:090 (5,6,7,1,2) -
2017-09-25 20:55 squirrelpascals: recommend lowering rhythm density here with a slider or smth to add more contrast with 02:30:840 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - kiai part
2017-09-25 20:55 fieryrage: also
2017-09-25 20:55 fieryrage: 02:28:890 (2,3) -
2017-09-25 20:55 fieryrage: should this be a triple
2017-09-25 20:55 fieryrage: cuz i never do a direct stack like this
2017-09-25 20:56 fieryrage: and its technically supported in the song
2017-09-25 20:56 fieryrage: also added slider to 6 and 7
2017-09-25 20:56 squirrelpascals: i dont hear a beat there so no :p
2017-09-25 20:56 fieryrage: or actually wait
2017-09-25 20:56 fieryrage: no if i do that then the introduction to the higher spacing gets screwed
2017-09-25 20:56 squirrelpascals: also thank you for overmapping triples less in this kind of map
2017-09-25 20:57 squirrelpascals: just space the two
2017-09-25 20:57 fieryrage: He Says That Now But Just Wait Until He Sees The NEsxt section
2017-09-25 20:58 fieryrage: idk its hard to make a pattern that flows well and introduces the high spacing using a slider there
2017-09-25 20:58 squirrelpascals: i dont mind the direct stack there at all tbh
2017-09-25 20:59 fieryrage: bro im tttttttttttttalkin about
2017-09-25 20:59 fieryrage: 02:30:240 (6,7) -
2017-09-25 20:59 fieryrage: This
2017-09-25 20:59 squirrelpascals: yeah that works
2017-09-25 20:59 squirrelpascals: making that a slider
2017-09-25 20:59 fieryrage: yea but i feel like itd just be
2017-09-25 20:59 squirrelpascals: it just makes it feel less 12 jump spammy
2017-09-25 20:59 fieryrage: ruining the growing emphasis leading up to the jump part
2017-09-25 20:59 squirrelpascals: not that this map isnt
2017-09-25 21:00 fieryrage: yea i was about to say
2017-09-25 21:00 fieryrage: u on dumb
2017-09-25 21:00 fieryrage: but alright i guess ill see what i can do
2017-09-25 21:00 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178626
2017-09-25 21:00 fieryrage: see like
2017-09-25 21:00 fieryrage: now this looks ugly
2017-09-25 21:00 fieryrage: cuz of the Fuckin Sldierned
2017-09-25 21:00 fieryrage: hofdlygb fu
2017-09-25 21:01 squirrelpascals: 02:29:940 (4,5) -
2017-09-25 21:01 squirrelpascals: try making this a slider instead?
2017-09-25 21:01 squirrelpascals: if you cant make it work its just a recommendation but it would be an improvement
2017-09-25 21:01 fieryrage: ye idk
2017-09-25 21:02 fieryrage: if i can think of smth at the end of the mod ill do it
2017-09-25 21:02 fieryrage: but theres too many overlaps n stuff in this section that anything would just
2017-09-25 21:02 fieryrage: screw it up aesthetically
2017-09-25 21:02 fieryrage: so rip
2017-09-25 21:02 squirrelpascals: okay moving on
2017-09-25 21:02 squirrelpascals: 02:33:690 (2,3,4) - i dont hear a triple here :///
2017-09-25 21:03 fieryrage: ok time to remove all the triples that pishi told me to add
2017-09-25 21:03 fieryrage: tbh i got so used to it in the other ranked version that i thought there were actual sounds there
2017-09-25 21:03 squirrelpascals: why did he tell you to add them
2017-09-25 21:03 fieryrage: he felt like the density was weird otherwise
2017-09-25 21:03 fieryrage: idfk
2017-09-25 21:03 fieryrage: this was like
2017-09-25 21:03 fieryrage: 5 months ago tho
2017-09-25 21:04 fieryrage: anyway removed all of them in the section they're just direct stacks now
2017-09-25 21:04 fieryrage: so i guess it helps the other direct stack lul
2017-09-25 21:04 fieryrage: idk though honestly it feels like those triples are actually there
2017-09-25 21:05 squirrelpascals: i dont hear the sounds there
2017-09-25 21:05 squirrelpascals: wait let me check the other set
2017-09-25 21:05 fieryrage: it overmaps
2017-09-25 21:05 fieryrage: WAY more than i do
2017-09-25 21:06 fieryrage: so like i dont even know
2017-09-25 21:06 squirrelpascals: 2015 Overmapping Inc.
2017-09-25 21:06 fieryrage: im just gonna keep them if the other bn tells me This Shit Gay ill remove
2017-09-25 21:08 squirrelpascals: alright
2017-09-25 21:08 squirrelpascals: some people like to do that whole "triples for emphasis" type of thing
2017-09-25 21:08 squirrelpascals: but i think theres a time and place for it
2017-09-25 21:09 squirrelpascals: soooooo movign on
2017-09-25 21:13 squirrelpascals: 03:18:540 (4) -
2017-09-25 21:14 squirrelpascals: make this two circles for consistency with the jumps before + intence vocals
2017-09-25 21:14 fieryrage: OOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo00000000ok
2017-09-25 21:15 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178668 this probably looks ugly in hindsight but idgaf
2017-09-25 21:16 squirrelpascals: works
2017-09-25 21:18 squirrelpascals: 03:44:640 (1) - 03:49:440 (1) - the sv increase here feels p dramatic because in gameplay the snare is only subtly different form 03:48:240 (4) -
2017-09-25 21:18 squirrelpascals: woudl just recommend lowering it to be less dramatic
2017-09-25 21:19 squirrelpascals: 03:54:240 (1) - also could you do some similar circular aesthetic here to fit in with the slliders i mentioned
2017-09-25 21:19 fieryrage: i dont really wanna reduce the sv because i feel like it's a lot more intense there and even then it doesn't increase too much to affect gameplay much
2017-09-25 21:19 fieryrage: as for the aesthetic thing then id be not mapping the vocal and i wanna map that
2017-09-25 21:22 squirrelpascals: even like .75 would feel better
2017-09-25 21:22 squirrelpascals: they just dont sound that different
2017-09-25 21:22 fieryrage: .75 is the sv i have
2017-09-25 21:22 fieryrage: wait
2017-09-25 21:22 fieryrage: wtf
2017-09-25 21:22 fieryrage: ok
2017-09-25 21:22 squirrelpascals: you have 1 lolol
2017-09-25 21:23 fieryrage: Ok Fix
2017-09-25 21:24 squirrelpascals: be sure to get all of them
2017-09-25 21:24 squirrelpascals: 04:27:840 (1) -
2017-09-25 21:24 fieryrage: yea
2017-09-25 21:24 fieryrage: i did
2017-09-25 21:26 squirrelpascals: 04:56:190 (2,3,4,5,1,2) -
2017-09-25 21:26 squirrelpascals: same situation here with that 1/2 slider
2017-09-25 21:26 squirrelpascals: or whatever slider
2017-09-25 21:26 squirrelpascals: to contrast with the next jump part
2017-09-25 21:26 squirrelpascals: just think about it
2017-09-25 21:26 fieryrage: ok
2017-09-25 21:27 squirrelpascals: because imo these 04:51:240 (1,2,3) - sound a lot more cohesiv
2017-09-25 21:27 squirrelpascals: e
2017-09-25 21:27 squirrelpascals: 04:59:640 (1,2) - spacing feels quite low here
2017-09-25 21:27 squirrelpascals: maybe move 1 up
2017-09-25 21:28 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178703
2017-09-25 21:28 fieryrage: kinda readjusted the entire pattern
2017-09-25 21:29 squirrelpascals: that works
2017-09-25 21:30 fieryrage: also 05:06:540 (4) - i already fixed this
2017-09-25 21:30 fieryrage: from previous one
2017-09-25 21:31 squirrelpascals: thank you
2017-09-25 21:31 squirrelpascals: i was going to point that out xd
2017-09-25 21:31 squirrelpascals: 05:17:490 (1) - s l i d e r point s
2017-09-25 21:31 fieryrage: U MAD????????????
2017-09-25 21:32 squirrelpascals: LOL!
2017-09-25 21:32 squirrelpascals: 05:20:640 (1) -
2017-09-25 21:32 squirrelpascals: this might be offscreen
2017-09-25 21:32 squirrelpascals: yeah im sure it is
2017-09-25 21:32 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178712
2017-09-25 21:32 fieryrage: is this offscreens till
2017-09-25 21:33 squirrelpascals: i think its better
2017-09-25 21:33 squirrelpascals: ill change window rl quick and check
2017-09-25 21:33 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178718
2017-09-25 21:33 fieryrage: this shouldnt be at all
2017-09-25 21:33 fieryrage: so
2017-09-25 21:33 fieryrage: yeee EEEe
2017-09-25 21:34 squirrelpascals: yeah youre good there
2017-09-25 21:34 fieryrage: ok
2017-09-25 21:35 squirrelpascals: 05:25:140 (1) - why the slowdown here?
2017-09-25 21:35 fieryrage: to give emphasis to the guitar
2017-09-25 21:36 squirrelpascals: oky
2017-09-25 21:36 squirrelpascals: alien got RANKED so ugly sliders are okay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2017-09-25 21:36 squirrelpascals: 05:37:440 (1) -
2017-09-25 21:36 fieryrage: YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA#$
2017-09-25 21:37 squirrelpascals: its actually justified tho lol
2017-09-25 21:37 squirrelpascals: 05:37:440 (1) -
2017-09-25 21:37 squirrelpascals: but thI SiSNT
2017-09-25 21:37 fieryrage: U MAD????????
2017-09-25 21:37 fieryrage: the guitar is like the most distorted there tho cmon
2017-09-25 21:37 squirrelpascals: 1/8 feels TOO FST HERE
2017-09-25 21:37 fieryrage: Bro just learnt o play lollllll
2017-09-25 21:37 fieryrage: all testplayers never broke on that
2017-09-25 21:37 fieryrage: i think its fine tbh
2017-09-25 21:37 fieryrage: its either that or i make 4x sv slider
2017-09-25 21:38 squirrelpascals: ok my rule for these is that if the head to first reverse arrow of the slider is longer than the hit window for a 300 then its okay
2017-09-25 21:38 squirrelpascals: so okay fine
2017-09-25 21:38 fieryrage: like and rt
2017-09-25 21:39 squirrelpascals: i replied
2017-09-25 21:39 squirrelpascals: 05:36:990 (2,1) -
2017-09-25 21:39 squirrelpascals: might be unrankable
2017-09-25 21:39 fieryrage: yea vinxis also pointed that out but
2017-09-25 21:39 squirrelpascals: https://i.imgur.com/Goh3bDo.png unranka bLE
2017-09-25 21:39 fieryrage: i think since its short enough and its a high level map ppl will know
2017-09-25 21:39 fieryrage: Wow this is 1/8
2017-09-25 21:39 fieryrage: ok ur right actually nevemrind
2017-09-25 21:40 fieryrage: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9178729
2017-09-25 21:40 fieryrage: Looks like I Gotta Settle For Thsi.
2017-09-25 21:40 squirrelpascals: yeah thats a good adjustment
2017-09-25 21:40 squirrelpascals: even if it reads fine rankability is rankability
2017-09-25 21:40 fieryrage: Sad!
2017-09-25 21:42 squirrelpascals: 05:42:540 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) -
2017-09-25 21:42 squirrelpascals: it sounds like youre mapping this to the distortion of the guitar
2017-09-25 21:42 squirrelpascals: more than the actual notes of the guitar
2017-09-25 21:42 fieryrage: what do u mean
2017-09-25 21:43 squirrelpascals: im sure that the guitar keeps the 1/2 rhythm here
2017-09-25 21:43 squirrelpascals: like 1/4 slider spam is more justified here
2017-09-25 21:43 fieryrage: when i slow it down i hear distinct 1/4 notes
2017-09-25 21:43 fieryrage: so idk
2017-09-25 21:43 fieryrage: it does the same thing in the ranked vers too
2017-09-25 21:44 squirrelpascals: oh wait
2017-09-25 21:44 squirrelpascals: shIT
2017-09-25 21:44 squirrelpascals: i hear it now
2017-09-25 21:44 fieryrage: Brain Moments
2017-09-25 21:44 squirrelpascals: 05:42:615 (4) - not at this one
2017-09-25 21:44 squirrelpascals: Yes
2017-09-25 21:44 fieryrage: wtf i hear it there too tho
2017-09-25 21:44 squirrelpascals: 05:42:540 (3,4) - just make 3 a kickslider or smth
2017-09-25 21:44 fieryrage: its low pitch but its there
2017-09-25 21:45 squirrelpascals: so ill take it
2017-09-25 21:45 fieryrage: wait ull take it without kickslider or do i have 2
2017-09-25 21:45 squirrelpascals: i think sometimes if i would have mapped these things differently im like
2017-09-25 21:45 squirrelpascals: "this is WRONG!"
2017-09-25 21:45 fieryrage: yea but ur gay LL
2017-09-25 21:45 squirrelpascals: no ill take it without
2017-09-25 21:45 fieryrage: Hold the L
2017-09-25 21:45 squirrelpascals: l
2017-09-25 21:45 fieryrage: thanks
2017-09-25 21:45 squirrelpascals: np
only took 1 year!1!!!!!!!!
im putting an end to this meme
oh no
05:00:840 (1,2,3) -
Random thing when I was looking through the map:
03:22:740 - This break along with 05:10:740 - feel a bit out of place since the intensity is still really high and not clicking for that note is kinda meh. I would suggest adding a stacked circle there maybe to keep the player at least clicking something?
03:22:740 - This break along with 05:10:740 - feel a bit out of place since the intensity is still really high and not clicking for that note is kinda meh. I would suggest adding a stacked circle there maybe to keep the player at least clicking something?
fucking finally some progress on this map furry rage boy
Topic Starter
fixed mir's issue, waiting for second bn before updating
i just wanna make good maps and not have this on the back of my mind plz
i just wanna make good maps and not have this on the back of my mind plz