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ChouCho - Yasashisa no Riyuu

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Binguo
308 posts
Joined April 2015
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Binguo
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2016年12月11日 at 23:54:42

Artist: ChouCho
Title: Yasashisa no Riyuu
Source: 氷菓
Tags: Pata-Mon Karen 株式会社京都アニメーション Kyoto Animation 京アニ Hyouka Anime OP opening tv size kyoani
BPM: 177
Filesize: 14325kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.5 stars, 107 notes)
  2. Hard (3.38 stars, 242 notes)
  3. Insane (4.61 stars, 304 notes)
  4. Karen's Icecream (4.63 stars, 315 notes)
  5. Normal (2.11 stars, 155 notes)
  6. Pata-Mon's Insane (4 stars, 264 notes)
Download: ChouCho - Yasashisa no Riyuu
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Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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《冰菓》
Ice Cream


Karen's diff Icecream
Pata-Mon's diff Insane

Meta: http://www.kotenbu.com/goods/cd_op.html


琪琪：你们先飞

太累了我先睡觉咕咕 明天在咕
坠机x1 原因：驾驶员操作不当
My English proficiency is very bad.:cry:
Last edited by Binguo , edited 26 times in total.
Pata-Mon
1,489 posts
Joined March 2015
Pata-Mon
Meta:

把“京阿尼”从tags里删掉……这是纯中文……

http://www.kotenbu.com/goods/cd_op.html

Artist: ChouCho
Title: 優しさの理由
Romanised Title: Yasashisa no Riyuu
Source: 氷菓
其他一些可选的Tags: Hyouka Anime OP opening tv size kyoani
Last edited by Pata-Mon , edited 4 times in total.
Karen
2,860 posts
Joined August 2013
Karen
没音效
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Yasashisa no Riyuu.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: -1
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.8

[Metadata]
Title:Yasashisa no Riyuu
TitleUnicode:优しさの理由
Artist:ChouCho
ArtistUnicode:ちょうちょ
Creator:Binguo
Version:Karen
Source:氷菓
Tags:株式会社京都アニメーション Kyoto Animation  京アニ 京阿尼
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4.2
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.7
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"hh.jpg",0,0
Video,-80,"Kammi.avi"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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ChouCho - Yasashisa no Riyuu (Binguo) [Pata-Mon's Insane].osu

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Title:Yasashisa no Riyuu
TitleUnicode:優しさの理由
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Binguo
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244,22,46560,2,0,P|250:84|264:145,1,125.999996154785,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
469,252,47238,5,4,0:3:0:0:
394,183,47408,2,0,P|362:177|331:175,1,62.9999980773926,0|4,1:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
469,252,47747,1,4,0:3:0:0:
461,107,47916,2,0,P|400:89|338:82,1,125.999996154785,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
245,123,48425,1,4,0:3:0:0:
287,302,48594,6,0,P|314:245|326:183,1,125.999996154785,4|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
110,46,49272,2,0,P|129:104|110:164,1,125.999996154785,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
29,106,49781,1,0,0:0:0:0:
207,18,49950,6,0,L|270:18,1,62.9999980773926,4|0,0:3|1:0,0:0:0:0:
342,89,50289,1,4,0:3:0:0:
342,89,50459,1,4,0:3:0:0:
477,18,50628,2,0,L|414:18,1,62.9999980773926,0|8,1:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
414,160,50967,2,0,L|477:160,1,62.9999980773926,4|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
342,89,51306,6,0,P|313:144|323:205,1,125.999996154785,4|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
386,284,51814,1,4,0:3:0:0:
477,160,51984,2,0,L|414:160,1,62.9999980773926,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
323,205,52323,2,0,L|260:205,1,62.9999980773926,4|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
93,151,52662,5,4,0:3:0:0:
223,34,52831,1,0,1:0:0:0:
192,130,53001,2,0,L|172:189,1,62.9999980773926,4|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
223,34,53340,1,0,1:0:0:0:
141,286,53679,1,8,0:3:0:0:
141,286,53848,1,4,0:3:0:0:
318,187,54018,6,0,P|407:176|497:175,1,180,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
254,89,54526,2,0,P|165:78|75:77,1,180,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
367,61,55035,6,0,P|445:102|497:175,1,180,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
325,314,55543,2,0,P|247:273|195:200,1,180,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,265,56052,6,0,P|441:308|435:352,1,90,8|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,265,56391,2,0,P|103:308|109:352,1,90,4|0,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,107,56730,5,4,0:0:0:0:
272,107,58086,5,2,0:0:0:0:
272,107,59442,6,0,P|204:51|116:58,1,180,4|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
52,156,59950,1,0,0:0:0:0:
169,253,60120,2,0,P|171:208|169:164,1,90,4|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
0,51,60459,1,0,1:0:0:0:
52,156,60628,1,0,0:0:0:0:
234,65,60798,6,0,P|283:137|268:224,1,180,4|0,0:3|1:0,0:0:0:0:
169,163,61306,1,0,0:0:0:0:
234,65,61475,1,4,0:3:0:0:
234,65,61645,1,4,0:3:0:0:
268,224,61814,2,0,P|237:257|197:276,1,90,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
333,126,62153,5,4,0:3:0:0:
333,126,62492,2,0,P|308:88|299:44,1,90,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
417,45,62831,1,4,0:3:0:0:
445,159,63001,1,4,0:3:0:0:
262,178,63170,2,0,P|292:145|332:126,1,90,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
257,295,63509,5,4,0:3:0:0:
257,295,63679,1,4,0:3:0:0:
415,208,63848,2,0,L|395:312,1,90,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,125,64187,1,4,0:3:0:0:
415,208,64357,1,4,0:3:0:0:
228,179,64526,1,0,1:0:0:0:
362,312,64696,1,0,1:0:0:0:
343,322,64781,1,0,1:0:0:0:
324,332,64865,6,0,L|252:325,1,72,0|0,1:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
467,318,65204,2,0,L|323:332,1,144,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
215,321,65713,1,4,0:3:0:0:
185,218,65882,1,0,1:0:0:0:
263,110,66052,6,0,P|243:177|185:218,1,144,4|4,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
91,85,66561,2,0,P|125:94|154:115,1,72,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
110,297,66899,1,4,0:3:0:0:
80,193,67069,1,4,0:3:0:0:
215,322,67238,2,0,P|247:306|272:281,1,72,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,64,67577,6,0,P|367:153|383:242,1,180,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
185,218,68086,2,0,P|181:128|165:39,1,180,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,291,68594,6,0,P|199:334|114:311,1,180,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
114,77,69103,2,0,P|198:54|275:97,1,180,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
195,259,69611,6,0,L|184:170,1,90,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
389,51,69950,2,0,L|378:140,1,90,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
284,334,70289,6,0,P|206:374|121:351,1,180,4|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
195,259,70798,1,0,0:0:0:0:
153,149,70967,1,4,0:3:0:0:
153,149,71137,1,4,0:3:0:0:
149,334,71306,2,0,P|178:300|195:258,1,90,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
60,78,71645,6,0,P|37:162|78:240,1,180,4|0,0:3|1:0,0:0:0:0:
195,258,72153,1,0,0:0:0:0:
210,80,72323,2,0,L|153:149,1,90,4|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
325,57,72662,1,0,1:0:0:0:
325,57,72831,1,0,0:0:0:0:
271,234,73001,5,4,0:3:0:0:
271,234,73340,2,0,P|308:210|336:174,1,90,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
229,125,73679,1,4,0:3:0:0:
229,125,73848,1,4,0:3:0:0:
198,326,74018,2,0,P|237:346|282:350,1,90,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,174,74357,6,0,P|299:198|271:234,1,90,4|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
452,193,74696,1,0,1:0:0:0:
336,174,74865,1,0,0:0:0:0:
378,283,75035,2,0,P|417:304|461:308,1,90,8|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
336,174,75374,1,4,0:3:0:0:
282,350,75543,1,4,0:3:0:0:
229,153,75713,6,0,P|157:141|86:144,1,144,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
294,67,76221,2,0,P|365:55|436:58,1,144,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
229,153,76730,1,0,1:0:0:0:
240,260,76899,6,0,P|303:227|335:165,1,144,4|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
141,215,77408,2,0,P|131:249|134:285,1,72,4|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
229,153,77747,1,4,0:3:0:0:
24,85,78086,1,4,0:3:0:0:
210,277,78425,6,0,P|226:217|229:154,1,125.999996154785,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,78,78933,1,4,0:3:0:0:
24,85,79103,1,0,1:0:0:0:
24,85,79442,2,0,L|24:148,1,62.9999980773926
70,295,79781,5,4,0:3:0:0:
119,150,79950,1,0,1:0:0:0:
147,240,80120,2,0,P|178:243|209:243,1,62.9999980773926,4|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
358,226,80459,1,0,1:0:0:0:
358,226,80798,2,0,P|355:195|355:164,1,62.9999980773926
372,15,81137,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,81221,12,2,83170,0:0:0:0:
364,190,83509,6,0,L|364:253,1,62.9999980773926,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
497,77,83848,6,0,P|452:70|409:81,1,90,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,195,84187,2,0,P|320:201|363:190,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,106,84526,2,0,P|172:141|160:184,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
315,85,84865,1,2,0:0:0:0:
123,17,85035,6,0,P|68:87|43:173,1,180,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
207,258,85543,2,0,P|190:216|159:183,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,369,85882,2,0,P|212:375|255:364,2,90,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
0,272,86391,5,6,0:0:0:0:
256,192,86475,12,0,89781,0:0:0:0:
Hanazawa Kana
727 posts
Joined February 2013
Hanazawa Kana
小的来水了

[卡人]
我知道你会全拒的
00:05:713 - 讲道理我觉得这里可以空掉 听了下这里好像没音 而且删掉了以后感觉有种停顿感
00:13:340 - 考虑把这个note删掉吧 感觉这个音比00:13:170 - 弱不少 打起来就是感觉多打了一下... 其实我觉得00:13:170 (5) - 改成个1/2滑条也行

[buhuizuo]
这个是要摸的么?
感觉前面别放那么多连续单点比较好吧 虽然都有音但是很轻 我感觉滑条带过可能好一点吧
00:33:001 (4,5) - 试试都向上拉呢?
01:04:442 (5) - 什么鬼?

[怕他猛]
01:02:323 - 这里还是放点东西?感觉这里空的比较突兀 我听了下好像也没有特别需要强调的音啊... 还是塞爆吧 还有这里01:13:170 - 也是

[哈德]
00:03:509 (2,3,1) - 这个flow打起来感觉贼难受 可以考虑把滑条放平
00:05:204 (1,2,1,2) - 这遮挡会不会有点难了
00:15:543 (3) - 感觉这个也是flow有点卡手 考虑把note放外面点然后圆形flow?
00:21:984 (3,4,5,6) - 直线flow我要抱井了 要不要改成折线的? 或者原地单点 感觉也能强调这个音
01:26:391 - 不来个note吗

[闹猫]
卧槽你normal也遮挡的..
00:54:018 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - 这串有点长了 个人认为这个00:55:543 (1) - 可以改成note

[一贼]
00:24:187 (3,1) - 可以考虑包一下
00:54:018 (3) - 还是别折返这么多次吧
01:07:577 (1) - 同

嗨呀 我发现我的摸越来越水了
GL! 果爷牛逼
_Yiiiii
464 posts
Joined February 2015
_Yiiiii
炒鸡大水摸来辣

[卡人]
00:01:137 (1,2,3) - 2和3的间距与1和2的相比是不是太小了？或者说是1和2的太大了，我个人建议把1往上挪一点。

00:04:526 - 大概是漏了个音。没太搞懂这个diff是怎么下的节奏orz

00:13:001 (4,5,1) - 5那里有重音，应该是45大，51小。

00:31:814 (9,10,11) - 这里应该还是0.6xDS

00:54:526 (2,1) - 这俩搭配不好看。

[不会做]
01:00:628 - 01:03:340 - 01:14:187 - 漏音。

01:04:442 (5) - 不说你也知道。

01:15:374 (5,6) - 间距最好再大一点。

看不懂flow orz


炒鸡大水摸没辣
[Crz]Makii
450 posts
Joined November 2014
[Crz]Makii
[Karen]
  1. diff name可以这样嘛?
  2. 00:30:967 (5) - NC
  3. 00:33:001 (4,5,6,7) - 间距有点大
  4. 01:13:001 (1) - 有出界嫌疑,而且撞血条
  5. 01:26:391 (7) - 可以再远点
[会做]
  1. 00:03:848 (1,2) - 这overlap好蛋疼的 避免一下吧
  2. 00:09:272 (1) - 这个改成1/8,折返一下也行.人格难度下的那个就比较合曲
  3. 00:15:882 (5,2) - ..
  4. 00:21:137 (1) - 这NC是做什么的呀 这里都叠一块了再下多NC有点难读了
  5. diao 我hr死了
[怕他梦]
  1. 00:09:273 (1) - ..我是觉得没什么NC必要,不过改不改影响为0
  2. 01:01:475 (3,4) - 这里有一个1/2完全叠,01:02:153 (1,2) - 紧接着就来1/1完全叠..容易读错呀..
  3. 这排列好玩
k
Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Lobelia
开模啦=W=顺便MU一个啊！
[ Easy ]
00:54:018 (3) - 这个来回这么多次不知道好不好，我感觉还挺合曲的，不过貌似容易被挑
01:07:577 (1) - ↑
01:04:526 (4) - 这里要不要改成两个单点？因为大白线上面是一个很强的重音，我认为是需要强调出来的，滑条尾带过效果不是很好
01:09:950 (2,1) - 换成单点前，滑条后的组合？避免大白线重音被带过0 0？
01:15:713 (1,2,3) - 这块节奏我觉得可以改改，像
如果你觉得这样的节奏太紧密不适合E的话，也许可以这样？
01:26:391 - 这里可以加个圈然后01:26:475 - 上转盘，这样可以加强节奏感的，转盘头也没有判定点，是可以这么放的，当然不放的话也没什么关系=W=一个小建议

[ Normal ]
00:01:137 (1) - 换到X:38，Y:297?因为开头这里滑条太低下了，尾巴感觉有点出界
01:10:967 (5,2) - 这里不要overlap吧？
01:16:899 (1) - NC不要？

[ Hard ]
00:01:137 - 00:09:272 - 可能是我个人感觉，我觉得开头的节奏太密集了一些，但是起头并没有很强的节奏感，虽然音很多，我觉得听起来稍微有点吵，需不需要简化下节奏呢？个人意见!不简化应该也没关系的，毕竟也不是overmap
00:03:170 (1) - NC取消？或者说要强调感觉的话00:03:509 (2) - 我觉得这里NC的感觉更好
00:03:170 (1) - 因为这个地方虽然有一个鼓声比较明显，但是这里感觉前面一句还没有唱完，这里NC感觉唱一半被掐断的感觉
00:24:865 (1) - ↑
00:30:289 (1) - ↑
00:45:713 (4,1) - 1上面很强重音，但是4很弱应该不是很适合重叠，你可以去看看很多老司机的图，很多重叠的时候是白线起头的
01:01:814 (4) - ctrl+g?
01:06:052 (5,2,3,4) - 这里我专门打了一下，三连的时候前面的5滑条还是很清楚，所以我不是很建议你这里完全叠住
然后我觉得这个AR可以改到7.5-7.8之间，目前的7对于3.39星数来说低了一些，而且BPM177也不是特别慢

[ buhuizuo ]
00:08:086 (2,4,2,4) - 嗯ORZ这里我也不知道怎么说，我只能说我个人看的话，觉得不好看
00:08:933 (3) - 这里挪到X:421，Y:79附近，这段跳打起来更舒服些，我打了几次原来的位置紫色34这里总觉得很憋手的感觉
00:01:814 (3,4) - 这里节奏感觉不是很好，首先人声是肯定没有跟的，但是这里红线也没什么重音。总之就是我认为00:02:153 - 这个地方的音是很重要不能忽略的，给一个点击的感觉比较好
00:21:137 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这块我推荐你这个节奏，
原先NC的地方比较突兀了一些，00:21:814 - 这里才是开始有新音轨类似钢琴的声音出现
00:37:069 (1) - NC取消？
01:06:899 (3) - 这里重音需要有强调，距离太近了
01:20:120 (3) - 类似↑

就这些啦!人格和啪他萌神，我怕是摸不动← ←加油!GL!
Kashima
154 posts
Joined May 2014
Kashima
嗯..我会把相似的问题写在一起 而不是按时间顺序写

还有个人比较喜欢乱用blanket 所以很多时候会比较注意这边

Easy

00:07:916 (3,4) - 这个blanket感觉有点歪
00:14:018 (3,1) - ^
00:45:882 (2,3) - ^
00:47:916 (2,3,4) - ^
00:52:662 (1,2) - ^
00:24:187 (3,1,2) - 这里前后联系有点不对 感觉不太美观? 可以把3和1摆成和1 2一样的blanket
00:54:018 (3) - 在easy用这种多次折返滑条是不是不太合适
01:07:577 (1) - ^

Normal

00:01:814 (2,3) - blanket不太对
00:40:459 (4,5) - 这里可以把GS关掉来摆成blanket
00:42:323 (2,3) - ^
00:31:645 (2) - 有点没有跟vocal 把折返去掉在大白线00:32:323 - 再放一个slider会比较好
或者也可以把折返点拉到大白线 把00:33:170 (3) - 往后挪到红线00:33:170 - 折返去掉

Hard

00:02:153 (4,1) - blanket
00:07:916 (1,3) - ^
00:13:001 (4,1) - ^
00:17:069 (3,1) - ^
00:15:035 (2,3,4,5) -
00:17:747 (2,3,4) -
00:02:492 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 这一段整体感觉有点难读?对于hard player来说 个人意见(XD
00:49:950 (1,2) - 这里滑条ctrl+g会比较好?感觉跳的有点突兀
00:53:340 (4,5,6) - ^这里也有一点..不过会比较难改..看你取舍
00:59:950 - 这样比较跟vocal?
01:10:798 - ^
01:03:848 - ^(3 4跟的 sore demo)
01:14:696 -

怕他神's insane

没什么大问题 可以检查一下blanket

buhuizuo

检查一下blanket

00:17:408 (1,2) - 这里有点跳 而且不怎么顺手
00:21:645 (2,3) - ^
00:21:984 (3,4,5,6) - 可以摆的稍微方一点 例如摆成平行四边形的四角

卡人

找不到毛病 不卡

祝好运XD :)
MoeAsuka
302 posts
Joined October 2013
MoeAsuka
[Easy]
00:54:018 (3) - 在Easy放多次折返是不是不太好？拆成单独的滑条怎么样
01:07:577 (1) - ^

[Normal]
00:05:204 (2,3,4,5) - 在Normal的开头就放这个是不是太难了，用折返代替？
00:44:187 (6,1) - 用折返？这一串太长了

[Hard]
00:03:848 (1) - 感觉这样flow更好？
SPOILER
00:05:543 (2) - 感觉放在这里DS不是很合适，还是放在1的右上角比较好。就做成和后面那一组相似的，然后把后面那一组往下拉一点
00:58:086 (1) - 感觉和前面叠比较好，这里的音和前面相连，而后面进入kiai拉开比较好

[Pata-Mon's Insane]
00:09:103 (4,5) - 这个地方完全没有音啊？
00:21:137 (1,2,1) - 这个间距实在是太难读了。。不如继续逆时针走然后拉小一点至少让人感受一下这里是1/2
00:44:526 (1) - 放在前面5右边？感觉这里都是重音没有停顿的必要

[buhuizuo]
00:33:001 (4) - 感觉ctrl+G会更舒服
01:03:170 (6,1) - 这里我觉得是两个1/2的节奏

[Karen]
人格强 无敌
Pata-Mon
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Pata-Mon
香菜
[怕他猛]
01:02:323 - 这里还是放点东西?感觉这里空的比较突兀 我听了下好像也没有特别需要强调的音啊... 还是塞爆吧 还有这里01:13:170 - 也是 kiai我都跟鼓的啊 前面也有类似节奏了

大保健
[怕他梦]
  1. 00:09:273 (1) - ..我是觉得没什么NC必要,不过改不改影响为0 大白线我要加
  2. 01:01:475 (3,4) - 这里有一个1/2完全叠,01:02:153 (1,2) - 紧接着就来1/1完全叠..容易读错呀.. 容易读错就对了
  3. 这排列好玩

@Kashima 我blanket基本不会有问题……你这么说，找出哪个有问题了吗……

MoeAsuka
[Pata-Mon's Insane]
00:09:103 (4,5) - 这个地方完全没有音啊？ 明显吉他音
00:21:137 (1,2,1) - 这个间距实在是太难读了。。不如继续逆时针走然后拉小一点至少让人感受一下这里是1/2 合曲就行 难读怪玩家
00:44:526 (1) - 放在前面5右边？感觉这里都是重音没有停顿的必要 真正的重音在00:44:696 (2) - 所以这里反而要原地

no change for the mod but thanks

但是我自己改了一点点
菓神你别忘更新啊……上次的你就没更新

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169,253,60120,2,0,P|171:208|169:164,1,90,4|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
0,51,60459,1,0,1:0:0:0:
52,156,60628,1,0,0:0:0:0:
234,65,60798,6,0,P|283:137|268:224,1,180,4|0,0:3|1:0,0:0:0:0:
169,163,61306,1,0,0:0:0:0:
234,65,61475,1,4,0:3:0:0:
234,65,61645,1,4,0:3:0:0:
268,224,61814,2,0,P|237:257|197:276,1,90,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
333,126,62153,5,4,0:3:0:0:
333,126,62492,2,0,P|308:88|299:44,1,90,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
417,45,62831,1,4,0:3:0:0:
445,159,63001,1,4,0:3:0:0:
262,178,63170,2,0,P|292:145|332:126,1,90,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
257,295,63509,5,4,0:3:0:0:
257,295,63679,1,4,0:3:0:0:
415,208,63848,2,0,L|395:312,1,90,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,125,64187,1,4,0:3:0:0:
415,208,64357,1,4,0:3:0:0:
228,179,64526,1,0,1:0:0:0:
362,312,64696,1,0,1:0:0:0:
343,322,64781,1,0,1:0:0:0:
324,332,64865,6,0,L|252:325,1,72,0|0,1:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
467,318,65204,2,0,L|323:332,1,144,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
215,321,65713,1,4,0:3:0:0:
185,218,65882,1,0,1:0:0:0:
263,110,66052,6,0,P|243:177|185:218,1,144,4|4,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
91,85,66561,2,0,P|125:94|154:115,1,72,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
110,297,66899,1,4,0:3:0:0:
80,193,67069,1,4,0:3:0:0:
215,322,67238,2,0,P|247:306|272:281,1,72,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,64,67577,6,0,P|367:153|383:242,1,180,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
185,218,68086,2,0,P|181:128|165:39,1,180,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,291,68594,6,0,P|199:334|114:311,1,180,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
114,77,69103,2,0,P|198:54|275:97,1,180,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
195,259,69611,6,0,L|184:170,1,90,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
389,51,69950,2,0,L|378:140,1,90,4|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
284,334,70289,6,0,P|206:374|121:351,1,180,4|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
195,259,70798,1,0,0:0:0:0:
153,149,70967,1,4,0:3:0:0:
153,149,71137,1,4,0:3:0:0:
149,334,71306,2,0,P|178:300|195:258,1,90,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
60,78,71645,6,0,P|37:162|78:240,1,180,4|0,0:3|1:0,0:0:0:0:
195,258,72153,1,0,0:0:0:0:
210,80,72323,2,0,L|153:149,1,90,4|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
325,57,72662,1,0,1:0:0:0:
325,57,72831,1,0,0:0:0:0:
271,234,73001,5,4,0:3:0:0:
271,234,73340,2,0,P|308:210|336:174,1,90,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
229,125,73679,1,4,0:3:0:0:
229,125,73848,1,4,0:3:0:0:
198,326,74018,2,0,P|237:346|282:350,1,90,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,174,74357,6,0,P|299:198|271:234,1,90,4|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
452,193,74696,1,0,1:0:0:0:
336,174,74865,1,0,0:0:0:0:
378,283,75035,2,0,P|417:304|461:308,1,90,8|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
336,174,75374,1,4,0:3:0:0:
282,350,75543,1,4,0:3:0:0:
229,161,75713,6,0,P|157:154|85:153,1,144,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
294,75,76221,2,0,P|365:68|437:67,1,144,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
229,161,76730,1,0,1:0:0:0:
240,268,76899,6,0,P|303:235|335:173,1,144,4|8,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
141,223,77408,2,0,P|131:257|134:293,1,72,4|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
229,161,77747,1,4,0:3:0:0:
24,93,78086,1,4,0:3:0:0:
210,285,78425,6,0,P|226:225|229:162,1,125.999996154785,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,86,78933,1,4,0:3:0:0:
24,93,79103,1,0,1:0:0:0:
24,93,79442,2,0,L|24:156,1,62.9999980773926
70,303,79781,5,4,0:3:0:0:
119,158,79950,1,0,1:0:0:0:
147,248,80120,2,0,P|178:251|209:251,1,62.9999980773926,4|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
358,234,80459,1,0,1:0:0:0:
358,234,80798,2,0,P|355:203|355:172,1,62.9999980773926
372,23,81137,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,81221,12,2,83170,0:0:0:0:
364,190,83509,6,0,L|364:253,1,62.9999980773926,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
497,77,83848,6,0,P|452:70|409:81,1,90,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,195,84187,2,0,P|320:201|363:190,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,106,84526,2,0,P|172:141|160:184,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
315,85,84865,1,2,0:0:0:0:
123,17,85035,6,0,P|68:87|43:173,1,180,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
207,258,85543,2,0,P|190:216|159:183,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,369,85882,2,0,P|212:375|255:364,2,90,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
0,272,86391,5,6,0:0:0:0:
256,192,86475,12,0,89781,0:0:0:0:
Pata-Mon
1,489 posts
Joined March 2015
Pata-Mon
[Easy]
  1. 00:54:018 (3) - 你知道我要说什么……我真心觉得没必要．纯粹为了合曲的话，我也觉得是这个节奏最舒服：http://b1.loli.io/images/AwKo.png 这里最后一个note可以删掉改成前面加折返
  2. 01:07:577 (1,2) - ^
[Normal]
  1. 00:32:323 - 我觉得这个要拆出来滑条头．00:31:475 - 这里我觉得保留也行，但相比之下这个音没00:32:153 - 重要，虽然我知道那里有吉他，但你也并不是说真的整段都主要跟吉他
  2. 00:42:323 (2,4) - 这个肯定是不行
  3. 00:45:882 (4) - 从这里开始重音位置变了，你的nc整个都移一小节（00:48:594 (4) - 00:51:306 (4) - 00:54:018 (4) - ，00:56:730 (4) - 最后这个你自己看）
    实际上我觉得应该是从00:43:170 (3) - 就开始变，也就是说00:43:170 (3) - 加nc然后00:44:526 (1) - 删，不过这个你可以自己考虑，前面我说的那些肯定要改
  4. 01:14:357 (1) - 这里没必要nc啊 按照你的两小节一+的逻辑就行，然后01:15:713 (3) - 这里加，01:16:899 (1) - 01:17:408 (1) - 这俩没必要，然后01:18:425 (4) - 加，01:19:781 (1) - 删
感觉俩低难度比你以前低难度进步很大 厉害
似乎比较对我胃口（感觉跟我低难度算是一种风格？）

后面的晚上再摸

[Hard]
  1. 00:32:323 (5,1) - swap nc
  2. 01:03:848 (2,4) - 不好看．其实你这里是手抖了吧……01:03:848 (2,3) - 这俩最好复制粘贴，而且还可以直接把01:03:679 (1,2) - 整个都复制粘贴，然后note1贴过去那个位置正好放note4
  3. 01:05:204 (2,3,4) - 正三角形注意一下，把01:05:882 (4) - 移到(326,115)就行
  4. 01:06:052 (5,2,3,4) - 本来这个overlap可能还好．上面再叠连打感觉这排列就不太合适了，也感觉不好看．顺便还有01:06:052 (5) - 是重音，所以这里我会这么摆（没好好包，意思一下）：http://b1.loli.io/images/gjDy.jpg http://b1.loli.io/images/7JPg.jpg http://b1.loli.io/images/QoqA.jpg
  5. 01:06:052 (5) - 另外这里nc加在这儿更好．实际上一般来讲，这种大白线没音，而前面早半拍有音的时候，都是重音提前，所以nc往前加
  6. 我觉得01:20:967 - 要比01:20:289 (2) - 重要一点．你现在那个不跟也无所谓，其实作为滑条尾会好些
  7. 这diff也很牛啊，其实好多梗我在hard里求安全我不太爱放，但是看到别人这么放我是滋磁的，因为确实好玩．就是很多细节ds（比如我前面说的正三角形就是）还有包如果都注意一下，整个图看起来会再漂亮不少
[会做]
  1. 节奏：01:00:967 - 这里没跟我能理解，虽然有vocal但你是在跟鼓．接下来01:03:679 - 这里跟，我也能理解，但是你前面是个滑条尾，非clickable，这里还是nc，这样就没有任何读图依靠，这里跟就会变得莫名．其实跟你第二段kiai一样，stack到前面的滑条尾巴上的话，排列能够帮助读图会舒服得多
  2. 00:08:086 (2,4,2,4) - 都选上之后能看到是个等间距的弧线，但玩家在玩的时候真心难看出，即使现在我知道了，我玩的时候基本还是只会觉得有点乱．我个人认为这种梗还是要摆得更明显一些才好，按照从下到上或者上到下的顺序放，让人一眼就能看出来是最好的
  3. 00:15:882 (5,2) - 我觉得这种overlap得00:15:882 (5) - 是长滑条才好看
  4. 00:23:678 (4,1) - 太近了
  5. 00:32:323 (1,2,4,5) - 感觉用的ds有点大（我是说00:32:323 (1,4) - 之间的ds），看着会觉得是overlap，其实用跟你前面00:30:289 (5,6) - 一致的ds会比较整齐
  6. 00:47:747 (4,5,1,1) - 如果你这么摆，那要stack就都stack上，要overlap就全都用一样ds，如果你觉得音不同想变化，那就压根别用这种看着会误会的排列
  7. 01:00:459 (5,2) -
  8. 01:06:560 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 突然视觉ds这么小会感觉有点挤
  9. 01:09:103 (1,3) -
  10. 01:25:034 (5,1,2) - 我对这里是否适合ds梗有疑问．还有就是ds梗之后01:26:052 - 这里也不是重音，或许考虑把01:25:882 (2,3) - 叠起来会好些

    反正就是，依然感觉是想法很好，但图就是总觉得有点不够整洁．一方面是多注意overlap啥的，另一方面可以试着用ds作图，比如kiai选几个级别的ds，固定的数，然后能往上靠的就往上靠，并且更多注意不连续的object之间的视觉ds，我觉得只要整洁起来你的图都是很棒的．flow不好这件事其实我倒是不那么在意2333（不过要尽量确定flow不好的地方确实表现了音乐）
[Karen]
  1. 好玩．你还是来做几把图，拒绝以前那种良心图．01:17:747 (5,6) - 就是这里3/4大概不太看得出，主要是ds也太大．把5、6的尾巴直接叠起来应该就挺好
GL~
Frey
1,205 posts
Joined February 2011
Frey
From Group request

  • Easy
  1. 01:04:526 (4) - 不建议把4就这么叠在2的下面，因为2的击打火花直接挡在了4的上面。在Easy方面来说对新手玩家不怎么友好，建议不要重叠。放在靠右 的空位置，挪动一下前后滑条。

    Normal
  2. 00:31:645 (2) - 节奏不怎么对。取消折返，在00:32:323 - 再创造一个同样长度的滑条
  3. 01:16:899 (1) - 这个NC是拿来干嘛的？很奇怪。
  4. 01:26:221 - 这里放一个circle是没有问题的，前后反应时间足够。

    Hard
  5. 01:06:730 (2,3,4) - 这个overlap的位置很糟...个人觉得重叠在滑条尾都比这个保险

good luck
Kobayakawa Sae
131 posts
Joined December 2013
Kobayakawa Sae
[Easy]
00:08:594 (4) - 请包好
00:18:425 (2) - 重新拉一遍吧 看着挺难看的。。。 所以后面的blanket也不是很好看
00:23:848 (2) - 这个建议与00:20:798 (2) 这个滑条尾重叠
00:24:187 (3) - 这个可以包好一点么...
01:15:713 (1,2,3) - 这里节奏感觉挺怪的。。。

[Normal]
00:02:492 (3) - 包好
00:31:645 (2) - 这个改成直的
01:26:391 (1) - 这里我认为放个circle+finish音效 转盘放到后面的白线好点

[Hard]
问题不大就不多说了（这个遮挡感觉EZ玩起来很爽

[会做]
00:02:831 (3,4) - 这种看起来有点蛋疼啊。。。还是叠起来吧
00:21:645 (4) - 换成两个circle大概会好点吧
00:45:204 (3) 00:59:442 (1) 01:08:086 (2) 丑 拉好看一点吧
01:09:103 (1) - 放到这里吧
01:00:459 (5) - 这个滑条应该放到01:00:798这里吧 现在这样感觉节奏有点怪 而且 又空了这么一点感觉有点蛋疼
01:11:306 (5) - ↑

以上NC统一一下吧

[Pata-Mon]
摸不动

[人哥]
摸不动

水完
Karen
2,860 posts
Joined August 2013
Karen

Hanazawa Kana wrote:

[卡人]
我知道你会全拒的
00:05:713 - 讲道理我觉得这里可以空掉 听了下这里好像没音 而且删掉了以后感觉有种停顿感 前面00:02:831 (3,1) - 这里连着后面不连有点怪
00:13:340 - 考虑把这个note删掉吧 感觉这个音比00:13:170 - 弱不少 打起来就是感觉多打了一下... 其实我觉得00:13:170 (5) - 改成个1/2滑条也行 唔，有点道理，但是总觉得哪里不对劲

_Yiiiii wrote:

[卡人]
00:01:137 (1,2,3) - 2和3的间距与1和2的相比是不是太小了？或者说是1和2的太大了，我个人建议把1往上挪一点。

00:04:526 - 大概是漏了个音。没太搞懂这个diff是怎么下的节奏orz 重音停顿好玩

00:13:001 (4,5,1) - 5那里有重音，应该是45大，51小。

00:31:814 (9,10,11) - 这里应该还是0.6xDS 不打算跟前面一样

00:54:526 (2,1) - 这俩搭配不好看。 挺好看的
[quote="[Crz]Sword"][Karen]
  1. diff name可以这样嘛?
  2. 00:30:967 (5) - NC
  3. 00:33:001 (4,5,6,7) - 间距有点大 就要 大
  4. 01:13:001 (1) - 有出界嫌疑,而且撞血条 没有
  5. 01:26:391 (7) - 可以再远点 感觉可以了

/quote]


加了音效 http://puu.sh/ssZZQ/015497efef.zip
不飞提了
Binguo
308 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
Binguo

Hanazawa Kana wrote:

小的来水了 小香菜

[buhuizuo]
这个是要摸的么?
感觉前面别放那么多连续单点比较好吧 虽然都有音但是很轻 我感觉滑条带过可能好一点吧 用音效增益一下就好
00:33:001 (4,5) - 试试都向上拉呢? 原样更好
01:04:442 (5) - 什么鬼? 粗心大意我像来都是这样233


[哈德]
00:03:509 (2,3,1) - 这个flow打起来感觉贼难受 可以考虑把滑条放平 有那么受吗 fix 弯的
00:05:204 (1,2,1,2) - 这遮挡会不会有点难了 我觉得可以的
00:15:543 (3) - 感觉这个也是flow有点卡手 考虑把note放外面点然后圆形flow? 嗯这里确实没必要保持原样
00:21:984 (3,4,5,6) - 直线flow我要抱井了 要不要改成折线的? 或者原地单点 感觉也能强调这个音 可
01:26:391 - 不来个note吗 还是放了

[闹猫]
卧槽你normal也遮挡的.. 可以挡
00:54:018 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - 这串有点长了 个人认为这个00:55:543 (1) - 可以改成note no

[一贼]
00:24:187 (3,1) - 可以考虑包一下 不能包
00:54:018 (3) - 还是别折返这么多次吧
01:07:577 (1) - 同 fix

嗨呀 我发现我的摸越来越水了 （否定）不水 挺有用的
GL! 果爷牛逼
GL! 果子腊鸡
Binguo
308 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
Binguo

Karen wrote:

不飞提了
吓得我从床上爬了起来


先睡了 明天再改
Binguo
308 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
Binguo

_Yiiiii wrote:

炒鸡大水摸来辣

[不会做]
01:00:628 - 01:03:340 - 01:14:187 - 漏音。 这里的音可漏

01:04:442 (5) - 不说你也知道。嗯

01:15:374 (5,6) - 间距最好再大一点。不用吧

看不懂flow orz


炒鸡大水摸没辣
Binguo
308 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
Binguo

[Crz]Sword wrote:

[Karen]

  • [会做]
  1. 00:03:848 (1,2) - 这overlap好蛋疼的 避免一下吧 故意的
  2. 00:09:272 (1) - 这个改成1/8,折返一下也行.人格难度下的那个就比较合曲 不是必须的
  3. 00:15:882 (5,2) - .. 改了
  4. 00:21:137 (1) - 这NC是做什么的呀 这里都叠一块了再下多NC有点难读了 接下来节奏变化了所以下了nc如果继续有人挑的话我会直接换排列暂时保留
  5. diao 我hr死了 就死
Binguo
308 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
Binguo
阿伯

[ Abhor ] wrote:

开模啦=W=顺便MU一个啊！ 好了
[ Easy ]
00:54:018 (3) - 这个来回这么多次不知道好不好，我感觉还挺合曲的，不过貌似容易被挑
01:07:577 (1) - ↑ 改了
01:04:526 (4) - 这里要不要改成两个单点？因为大白线上面是一个很强的重音，我认为是需要强调出来的，滑条尾带过效果不是很好
01:09:950 (2,1) - 换成单点前，滑条后的组合？避免大白线重音被带过0 0？
01:15:713 (1,2,3) - 这块节奏我觉得可以改改，像
如果你觉得这样的节奏太紧密不适合E的话，也许可以这样？
01:26:391 - 这里可以加个圈然后01:26:475 - 上转盘，这样可以加强节奏感的，转盘头也没有判定点，是可以这么放的，当然不放的话也没什么关系=W=一个小建议 让我考虑一下 :o

[ Normal ]
00:01:137 (1) - 换到X:38，Y:297?因为开头这里滑条太低下了，尾巴感觉有点出界 不怂让bn挑
01:10:967 (5,2) - 这里不要overlap吧？可
01:16:899 (1) - NC不要？ 误下了

[ Hard ]
00:01:137 - 00:09:272 - 可能是我个人感觉，我觉得开头的节奏太密集了一些，但是起头并没有很强的节奏感，虽然音很多，我觉得听起来稍微有点吵，需不需要简化下节奏呢？个人意见!不简化应该也没关系的，毕竟也不是overmap 确实有些密 不过先不管
00:03:170 (1) - NC取消？或者说要强调感觉的话00:03:509 (2) - 我觉得这里NC的感觉更好
00:03:170 (1) - 因为这个地方虽然有一个鼓声比较明显，但是这里感觉前面一句还没有唱完，这里NC感觉唱一半被掐断的感觉
00:24:865 (1) - ↑
00:30:289 (1) - ↑ 暂时保留
00:45:713 (4,1) - 1上面很强重音，但是4很弱应该不是很适合重叠，你可以去看看很多老司机的图，很多重叠的时候是白线起头的 因为和曲吧 1对我来说不算是很强的音
01:01:814 (4) - ctrl+g? NO
01:06:052 (5,2,3,4) - 这里我专门打了一下，三连的时候前面的5滑条还是很清楚，所以我不是很建议你这里完全叠住 ok我移动一下
然后我觉得这个AR可以改到7.5-7.8之间，目前的7对于3.39星数来说低了一些，而且BPM177也不是特别慢 [/color]

[ buhuizuo ]
00:08:086 (2,4,2,4) - 嗯ORZ这里我也不知道怎么说，我只能说我个人看的话，觉得不好看 自我感觉良好
00:08:933 (3) - 这里挪到X:421，Y:79附近，这段跳打起来更舒服些，我打了几次原来的位置紫色34这里总觉得很憋手的感觉 ↑
00:01:814 (3,4) - 这里节奏感觉不是很好，首先人声是肯定没有跟的，但是这里红线也没什么重音。总之就是我认为00:02:153 - 这个地方的音是很重要不能忽略的，给一个点击的感觉比较好 100速下听上去被人声覆盖了 几乎听不见 没必要跟
00:21:137 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这块我推荐你这个节奏，这首歌整首都是这个节奏 我觉得不能无脑跟
原先NC的地方比较突兀了一些，00:21:814 - 这里才是开始有新音轨类似钢琴的声音出现 不能只顾及一轨
00:37:069 (1) - NC取消？可
01:06:899 (3) - 这里重音需要有强调，距离太近了 不会
01:20:120 (3) - 类似↑

就这些啦!人格和啪他萌神，我怕是摸不动← ←加油!GL!

Kashima

Kashima wrote:

嗯..我会把相似的问题写在一起 而不是按时间顺序写

还有个人比较喜欢乱用blanket 所以很多时候会比较注意这边

Easy

00:07:916 (3,4) - 这个blanket感觉有点歪
00:14:018 (3,1) - ^
00:45:882 (2,3) - ^
00:47:916 (2,3,4) - ^
00:52:662 (1,2) - ^ fix
00:24:187 (3,1,2) - 这里前后联系有点不对 感觉不太美观? 可以把3和1摆成和1 2一样的blanket 不要为了blanket 而blanket
00:54:018 (3) - 在easy用这种多次折返滑条是不是不太合适
01:07:577 (1) - ^ fix

Normal

00:01:814 (2,3) - blanket不太对
00:40:459 (4,5) - 这里可以把GS关掉来摆成blanket
00:42:323 (2,3) - ^ 以修
00:31:645 (2) - 有点没有跟vocal 把折返去掉在大白线00:32:323 - 再放一个slider会比较好
或者也可以把折返点拉到大白线 把00:33:170 (3) - 往后挪到红线00:33:170 - 折返去掉

Hard

00:02:153 (4,1) - blanket
00:07:916 (1,3) - ^
00:13:001 (4,1) - ^
00:17:069 (3,1) - ^ fix
00:15:035 (2,3,4,5) -
00:17:747 (2,3,4) -
00:02:492 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 这一段整体感觉有点难读?对于hard player来说 个人意见(XD 还好
00:49:950 (1,2) - 这里滑条ctrl+g会比较好?感觉跳的有点突兀 滑条指那里你就走那里吗？
00:53:340 (4,5,6) - ^这里也有一点..不过会比较难改..看你取舍
00:59:950 - 这样比较跟vocal? ？？？
01:10:798 - ^
01:03:848 - ^(3 4跟的 sore demo)
01:14:696 - 后面几条看不懂

buhuizuo
00:17:408 (1,2) - 这里有点跳 而且不怎么顺手 fix
00:21:645 (2,3) - ^ ？？？
00:21:984 (3,4,5,6) - 可以摆的稍微方一点 例如摆成平行四边形的四角 我不喜欢这样


祝好运XD :)

MoeAsuka
[quote="MoeAsuka"][Easy]
00:54:018 (3) - 在Easy放多次折返是不是不太好？拆成单独的滑条怎么样
01:07:577 (1) - ^ 可

[Normal]
00:05:204 (2,3,4,5) - 在Normal的开头就放这个是不是太难了，用折返代替？ 有很长的过渡段不难暂时保留
00:44:187 (6,1) - 用折返？这一串太长了 暂时保留

[Hard]
00:03:848 (1) - 感觉这样flow更好？ fix
SPOILER
00:05:543 (2) - 感觉放在这里DS不是很合适，还是放在1的右上角比较好。就做成和后面那一组相似的，然后把后面那一组往下拉一点 我也觉得不合适 嗯 用其他方式修改了
00:58:086 (1) - 感觉和前面叠比较好，这里的音和前面相连，而后面进入kiai拉开比较好 ok 之后会改

[buhuizuo]
00:33:001 (4) - 感觉ctrl+G会更舒服 暂时保留
01:03:170 (6,1) - 这里我觉得是两个1/2的节奏 细听的确是不过辨识度太低了 不改


谢谢你们哦 :) MoeAsuka 忘记给kd了ORZ 一定是网络问题没点出来而不是我没点 :o
Binguo
308 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
Binguo
怕他梦

Pata-Mon wrote:

[Easy]
  1. 00:54:018 (3) - 你知道我要说什么……我真心觉得没必要．纯粹为了合曲的话，我也觉得是这个节奏最舒服：http://b1.loli.io/images/AwKo.png 这里最后一个note可以删掉改成前面加折返 可
  2. 01:07:577 (1,2) - ^
[Normal]
  1. 00:32:323 - 我觉得这个要拆出来滑条头．00:31:475 - 这里我觉得保留也行，但相比之下这个音没00:32:153 - 重要，虽然我知道那里有吉他，但你也并不是说真的整段都主要跟吉他 这条我有点看不懂 因为我是经过修改之后 暂且保留原样
  2. 00:42:323 (2,4) - 这个肯定是不行 fix
  3. 00:45:882 (4) - 从这里开始重音位置变了，你的nc整个都移一小节（00:48:594 (4) - 00:51:306 (4) - 00:54:018 (4) - ，00:56:730 (4) - 最后这个你自己看）
    实际上我觉得应该是从00:43:170 (3) - 就开始变，也就是说00:43:170 (3) - 加nc然后00:44:526 (1) - 删，不过这个你可以自己考虑，前面我说的那些肯定要改
  4. 01:14:357 (1) - 这里没必要nc啊 按照你的两小节一+的逻辑就行，然后01:15:713 (3) - 这里加，01:16:899 (1) - 01:17:408 (1) - 这俩没必要，然后01:18:425 (4) - 加，01:19:781 (1) - 删
fix

感觉俩低难度比你以前低难度进步很大 厉害 人是需要进步的
似乎比较对我胃口（感觉跟我低难度算是一种风格？） 好的东西当然要学

后面的晚上再摸

[Hard]
  1. 00:32:323 (5,1) - swap nc fix
  2. 01:03:848 (2,4) - 不好看．其实你这里是手抖了吧……01:03:848 (2,3) - 这俩最好复制粘贴，而且还可以直接把01:03:679 (1,2) - 整个都复制粘贴，然后note1贴过去那个位置正好放note4 fix
  3. 01:05:204 (2,3,4) - 正三角形注意一下，把01:05:882 (4) - 移到(326,115)就行 fix
  4. 01:06:052 (5,2,3,4) - 本来这个overlap可能还好．上面再叠连打感觉这排列就不太合适了，也感觉不好看．顺便还有01:06:052 (5) - 是重音，所以这里我会这么摆（没好好包，意思一下）：http://b1.loli.io/images/gjDy.jpg http://b1.loli.io/images/7JPg.jpg http://b1.loli.io/images/QoqA.jpg 既然你们都挑了这里我就换了个方式做
  5. 01:06:052 (5) - 另外这里nc加在这儿更好．实际上一般来讲，这种大白线没音，而前面早半拍有音的时候，都是重音提前，所以nc往前加fix
  6. 我觉得01:20:967 - 要比01:20:289 (2) - 重要一点．你现在那个不跟也无所谓，其实作为滑条尾会好些 这里是漏掉了
  7. 这diff也很牛啊，其实好多梗我在hard里求安全我不太爱放，但是看到别人这么放我是滋磁的，因为确实好玩．就是很多细节ds（比如我前面说的正三角形就是）还有包如果都注意一下，整个图看起来会再漂亮不少
谢谢

[会做]
  1. 节奏：01:00:967 - 这里没跟我能理解，虽然有vocal但你是在跟鼓．接下来01:03:679 - 这里跟，我也能理解，但是你前面是个滑条尾，非clickable，这里还是nc，这样就没有任何读图依靠，这里跟就会变得莫名．其实跟你第二段kiai一样，stack到前面的滑条尾巴上的话，排列能够帮助读图会舒服得多 可
  2. 00:08:086 (2,4,2,4) - 都选上之后能看到是个等间距的弧线，但玩家在玩的时候真心难看出，即使现在我知道了，我玩的时候基本还是只会觉得有点乱．我个人认为这种梗还是要摆得更明显一些才好，按照从下到上或者上到下的顺序放，让人一眼就能看出来是最好的 可
  3. 00:15:882 (5,2) - 我觉得这种overlap得00:15:882 (5) - 是长滑条才好看 暂时不管道理同normal第一条 之前就修改了现在感觉良好
  4. 00:23:678 (4,1) - 太近了 把1和3互换了 梗+1
  5. 00:32:323 (1,2,4,5) - 感觉用的ds有点大（我是说00:32:323 (1,4) - 之间的ds），看着会觉得是overlap，其实用跟你前面00:30:289 (5,6) - 一致的ds会比较整齐 换了一种方式
  6. 00:47:747 (4,5,1,1) - 如果你这么摆，那要stack就都stack上，要overlap就全都用一样ds，如果你觉得音不同想变化，那就压根别用这种看着会误会的排列
  7. 01:00:459 (5,2) -
  8. 01:06:560 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 突然视觉ds这么小会感觉有点挤 自我感觉良好 故意的
  9. 01:09:103 (1,3) - fix
  10. 01:25:034 (5,1,2) - 我对这里是否适合ds梗有疑问．还有就是ds梗之后01:26:052 - 这里也不是重音，或许考虑把01:25:882 (2,3) - 叠起来会好些 换了个摆法

    反正就是，依然感觉是想法很好，但图就是总觉得有点不够整洁．一方面是多注意overlap啥的，另一方面可以试着用ds作图，比如kiai选几个级别的ds，固定的数，然后能往上靠的就往上靠，并且更多注意不连续的object之间的视觉ds，我觉得只要整洁起来你的图都是很棒的．flow不好这件事其实我倒是不那么在意2333（不过要尽量确定flow不好的地方确实表现了音乐）
虽然不符合我的个性 尽管如此我还是想把图做整洁的 其实以前我间距稍微拉大一点看上去就很乱了 现在已经要好一些了 （我觉得你说的有一定道理我会试试看的）


GL~

黑喵

Frey wrote:

From Group request

  • Easy
  1. 01:04:526 (4) - 不建议把4就这么叠在2的下面，因为2的击打火花直接挡在了4的上面。在Easy方面来说对新手玩家不怎么友好，建议不要重叠。放在靠右 的空位置，挪动一下前后滑条。 可

    Normal
  2. 00:31:645 (2) - 节奏不怎么对。取消折返，在00:32:323 - 再创造一个同样长度的滑条 在看到这里之前我就已经改成这样了233
  3. 01:16:899 (1) - 这个NC是拿来干嘛的？很奇怪。 fix
  4. 01:26:221 - 这里放一个circle是没有问题的，前后反应时间足够。 听黑喵的

    Hard
  5. 01:06:730 (2,3,4) - 这个overlap的位置很糟...个人觉得重叠在滑条尾都比这个保险 听黑喵的

good luck

林
[quote="[Charlie Lam]"][Easy]
00:08:594 (4) - 请包好 同normal第一条
00:18:425 (2) - 重新拉一遍吧 看着挺难看的。。。 所以后面的blanket也不是很好看 肥大肠 没问题
00:23:848 (2) - 这个建议与00:20:798 (2) 这个滑条尾重叠
00:24:187 (3) - 这个可以包好一点么... 此处不包
01:15:713 (1,2,3) - 这里节奏感觉挺怪的。。。 相对来说的确算是奇怪的 但是我想不到更好的方法了

[Normal]
00:02:492 (3) - 包好 对我来说已经很完美了
00:31:645 (2) - 这个改成直的 可
01:26:391 (1) - 这里我认为放个circle+finish音效 转盘放到后面的白线好点 不是必须的

[Hard]
问题不大就不多说了（这个遮挡感觉EZ玩起来很爽 抖m

[会做]
00:02:831 (3,4) - 这种看起来有点蛋疼啊。。。还是叠起来吧 可 在这之前就叠了
00:21:645 (4) - 换成两个circle大概会好点吧 换成三个了
00:45:204 (3) 00:59:442 (1) 01:08:086 (2) 丑 拉好看一点吧
01:09:103 (1) - 放到这里吧 不放不丑 貌似你讨厌这种条
01:00:459 (5) - 这个滑条应该放到01:00:798这里吧 现在这样感觉节奏有点怪 而且 又空了这么一点感觉有点蛋疼
01:11:306 (5) - ↑ 不蛋挞

以上NC统一一下吧

改摸改到死机 :o 谢摸 如果有我能帮得上你们的地方 尽管找我
smallboat
1,687 posts
Joined January 2010
smallboat
[Easy]

00:34:696 (2) - 疊的不夠好
01:04:526 (4) - 最好是不要overlap不然又要被說閒話。

[Normal]

00:32:323 (3) - Offscreen

[Hard]

00:05:543 (2,1) - 這距離擺放play的感覺好不對勁
01:05:713 (3,4) - 應該是可以用ctrl+g換一下flow方向，2.70x距離不算太遠，這可以考慮一下。


[Pata-Mon's Insane]

00:39:103 (1) - 可以把00:38:425 (3) - 的尾端完全蓋住，現在擦邊看起來不好看

做的有進步。

[laji Insane] 為什麼前面是laji，把這名稱刪了吧

00:22:492 (10) - 疊到00:22:831 (1) - 上play會更好
00:54:526 (2) - 這可以往右邊移動一點，與00:54:018 (1,3) - 的空隙弄同大小會更整潔
01:21:137 (7) - 好像忘了finish和NC。

[Karen's Insane]

Nothing.
Pata-Mon
1,489 posts
Joined March 2015
Pata-Mon
好的 谢谢船爷~
另微调了一下ar和od

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24,93,79103,1,0,1:0:0:0:
24,93,79442,2,0,L|24:156,1,62.9999980773926
70,303,79781,5,4,0:3:0:0:
119,158,79950,1,0,1:0:0:0:
147,248,80120,2,0,P|178:251|209:251,1,62.9999980773926,4|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
358,234,80459,1,0,1:0:0:0:
358,234,80798,2,0,P|355:203|355:172,1,62.9999980773926
372,23,81137,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,81221,12,2,83170,0:0:0:0:
364,190,83509,6,0,L|364:253,1,62.9999980773926,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
497,77,83848,6,0,P|452:70|409:81,1,90,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,195,84187,2,0,P|320:201|363:190,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,106,84526,2,0,P|172:141|160:184,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
315,85,84865,1,2,0:0:0:0:
123,17,85035,6,0,P|68:87|43:173,1,180,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
207,258,85543,2,0,P|190:216|159:183,1,90,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
168,369,85882,2,0,P|212:375|255:364,2,90,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
0,272,86391,5,6,0:0:0:0:
256,192,86475,12,0,89781,0:0:0:0:
sahuang
2,293 posts
Joined December 2014
sahuang
泡了再找我，你慢慢改
Binguo
308 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
Binguo

sahuang wrote:

泡了再找我，你慢慢改
你不是说下周吗 这也咕咕???
Binguo
308 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
Binguo

smallboat wrote:

[Easy]

00:34:696 (2) - 疊的不夠好 fix
01:04:526 (4) - 最好是不要overlap不然又要被說閒話。 这个不懂 但是照做了 改动有点多

[Normal]

00:32:323 (3) - Offscreen fix

[Hard]

00:05:543 (2,1) - 這距離擺放play的感覺好不對勁 ....你这样说我也不清楚，我就按照我自己的改了 为了配合前一组
01:05:713 (3,4) - 應該是可以用ctrl+g換一下flow方向，2.70x距離不算太遠，這可以考慮一下。 这样更爽啊 不考虑直接改一开始我是怂的

[laji Insane] 為什麼前面是laji，把這名稱刪了吧 ....忘记切回去了

00:22:492 (10) - 疊到00:22:831 (1) - 上play會更好 Fix
00:54:526 (2) - 這可以往右邊移動一點，與00:54:018 (1,3) - 的空隙弄同大小會更整潔 Fix
01:21:137 (7) - 好像忘了finish和NC。 Fix
smallboat
1,687 posts
Joined January 2010
smallboat
Bubbled
sahuang
2,293 posts
Joined December 2014
sahuang
[Easy]
  1. 00:45:882 (2,3) - blanket
  2. 01:04:865 - make it clickable
  3. 01:09:611 (3,4) - ctrl+G to emphasise 01:10:289 -

[Normal]
  1. 00:36:221 - add a circle
  2. 00:41:645 - ^
  3. 01:04:187 (5,6) - ctrl+G
  4. 01:09:950 (6,1) - ctrl+G

[Hard]
  1. 01:05:204 (2) - ctrl+G
  2. 01:04:187 (3,4) - reduce ds

[patamon's insane]
  1. 00:09:102 (4,5,1) - refer to other insanes for rhythm, 00:09:187 (5) - is overmapped.
    滑条声音吵死了

[Insane]
  1. http://puu.sh/sH4AY/044ca8ef9f.png unsnap一堆1ms
  2. 00:05:543 (2,2) - 右边的移上去对称？
  3. 00:09:526 - add a break as top diff
  4. 00:17:408 (1,2) - 做个blanket..
  5. 00:21:137 (1,3) - 00:55:543 (1,2) - swap NC
  6. 00:33:001 (4) - ctgrl+G? feels more natural
  7. 00:49:272 (1) - cancel NC
  8. 01:06:560 (1,2,3,4) - 做个菱形好不好
  9. 01:03:170 (6,1) - 01:14:018 (6,1) - 最好保持一致
  10. 01:16:899 (5,1,3) - 这钝角flow太难了
  11. 01:25:035 (5,1,2) - 间距适当加大点
  12. hitsound
    00:18:594 (5) - finish
    00:20:120 (1) - finishe?
    00:34:696 (4) - 去掉这边音效
    00:34:357 - normal whistle
    01:16:730 (4) - clap
    01:25:882 (2) - whistle
    如果低难度是复制的一起改一下，可能还有疏漏你再过一遍

[karen]
  1. 00:05:204 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this is very weird since 00:05:374 (2,4,2,4) - should not have same importance as 00:05:204 (1,3,1,3) - from the music. The main instrument also emphasised the latter. So 4 1/2 slider here works much better than the current one.
  2. 00:26:899 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - same. listen with 25%,especially for 00:27:408 (4) - and 00:27:747 (2) - .Try 4 sliders as well or http://puu.sh/sH4u9/6f7ecd8243.jpg
  3. 01:23:509 (1,2) - reduce spacing?can simply ctrl+G 01:23:509 (1) -

call me back
Pata-Mon
1,489 posts
Joined March 2015
Pata-Mon
00:09:187 - 这里有一个很明显的吉他音呀，我原速听得就很清楚，放慢更清楚．虽然别的难度没有跟，不过我这段本来就是主跟吉他，又是段末的重音前的三连，跟一下应该没有问题~
滑条静音掉
谢摸~

人格难度名大写吗？
Karen
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Joined August 2013
Karen
ok
http://puu.sh/sHb1K/b394ceba77.osu
Binguo
308 posts
Joined April 2015
Topic Starter
Binguo

sahuang wrote:

[Easy]
  1. 00:45:882 (2,3) - blanket
  2. 01:04:865 - make it clickable fix
  3. 01:09:611 (3,4) - ctrl+G to emphasise 01:10:289 - 低难度没有必要强跟鼓点和重音 并且滑条中间是有音的

[Normal]
  1. 00:36:221 - add a circle
  2. 00:41:645 - ^ 可
  3. 01:04:187 (5,6) - ctrl+G
  4. 01:09:950 (6,1) - ctrl+G 道理同EZ

[Hard]
  1. 01:05:204 (2) - ctrl+G 可
  2. 01:04:187 (3,4) - reduce ds 这里没必要3这里停顿一下或者稍微向下一点就好并且这个逆向flow是很顺手的


[Insane]
  1. http://puu.sh/sH4AY/044ca8ef9f.png unsnap一堆1ms
  2. 00:05:543 (2,2) - 右边的移上去对称？
  3. 00:09:526 - add a break as top diff
  4. 00:17:408 (1,2) - 做个blanket..
  5. 00:21:137 (1,3) - 00:55:543 (1,2) - swap NC
  6. 00:33:001 (4) - ctgrl+G? feels more natural
  7. 00:49:272 (1) - cancel NC
  8. 01:06:560 (1,2,3,4) - 做个菱形好不好 我尽力
  9. 01:03:170 (6,1) - 01:14:018 (6,1) - 最好保持一致
  10. 01:16:899 (5,1,3) - 这钝角flow太难了 鼠标都能玩不难了 (01:17:408 (1,2) - 这里有停顿) 如果是(5,1,2)这样排列我肯定改
  11. 01:25:035 (5,1,2) - 间距适当加大点
  12. hitsound
    00:18:594 (5) - finish
    00:20:120 (1) - finishe?
    00:34:696 (4) - 去掉这边音效
    00:34:357 - normal whistle
    01:16:730 (4) - clap
    01:25:882 (2) - whistle
    如果低难度是复制的一起改一下，可能还有疏漏你再过一遍 没提到的全都改了 音效过了一小时
sahuang
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sahuang
人格diff没video
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