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Final
00:06:332 (5) - NC to keep consistency on what you did 00:01:082 (1) -
00:01:682 (3) - I don't think this note is necessary since you're mapping to the piano
00:08:357 - start spinner here?
00:10:682 - End it here,its a 6*, y u giving them leeway lol

I REALLY CANT FIND ANYTHING ELSE ;W;,IM SORRY D:
I shot u 2 stars cuz of guilt D: forgive me
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Speechless wrote:

o3o

[General]

Saika's Extra and Final both AR9.4 OD8.5, what about AR9.6 OD9 in Final? i think there is a great gap between this two diffs i dont know before i added saika diff this is my actual settings . its mapper preference i guess (?

[Final]

02:40:832 (1) - try to use two 1/4 sliders? i want to keep the pause feel here
everything else is fixed !

_Meep_ wrote:

Final
00:06:332 (5) - NC to keep consistency on what you did 00:01:082 (1) - its not the same..
00:01:682 (3) - I don't think this note is necessary since you're mapping to the piano fixed
00:08:357 - start spinner here? i dont like to start spinner at blue ticks
00:10:682 - End it here,its a 6*, y u giving them leeway lol noooooooooooooooo

I REALLY CANT FIND ANYTHING ELSE ;W;,IM SORRY D:
I shot u 2 stars cuz of guilt D: forgive me
thank you for mods~~
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01:08:432 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 2016 classical
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sahuang wrote:

01:08:432 (1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 2016 classical
:o except that this wasnt overdone xd
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Speechless wrote:

[Saika's Extra]

00:02:432 (1,2,3,4) - 也跟前面一样摆个正方形啊 http://puu.sh/rV7me/598753c087.jpg 好像不是很顺手

00:08:357 (1) - 跟主难度一样,这个转盘的音量可以慢慢变大 ok

00:28:532 (5,1) - 这里的电音直接不做了?00:28:682 - 可以从这里开始摆个1/1折返滑条啊 个人喜欢在这停顿一下xd

00:42:032 (1) - 直接放串把? 这一段音乐比较轻用折返更好吧

01:19:532 (4,1) - 这里的stack是故意的吗?如果不是就叠好 叠了一下

01:34:082 - 这地方的 break和主难度不一样,这个难度有一个绿色的部分,建议统一一下 改成和主难度一样了

01:34:682 (1) - 这里的转盘跟主难度一样可以考虑从01:36:032 - 开始,不知道你的想法是怎么样的,我的想法是不跟这部分的 vocal ^

01:40:532 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这里的串我觉得可以三个一组每组之间分开一点摆把?这样就好啦

02:50:432 - 为什么要在 break放 kiai啊 不觉得这段音乐配上kiai效果很棒吗?angelhoney的rog里也用到了这种技巧
Thx~~
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oh sorry for late XD updated Saika's diff
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From #modreqs

General


  1. There are unused hitsounds, consider removing them if they're not going to be used.

    Ranking Criteria - Skinning wrote:

    There must not be any unused files in the map's folder except for the map's .osb file. Unused files add extra file size which is unnecessary.


  2. The length of drum-hitwhistle.wav is considerably larger than what the sound suggests. As seen here and here, more than 80% of this sound is silence. I'd recommend you cut the file as soon as it goes below -40 dB. This is for the sake of filesize and execution time.

  3. The event is "春M3". Consider adding this to your tags. Refer to AcuticNotes' official page.

  4. The song is part of the catalog "ACAL-0007", as mentioned on the album cover. This is also something you may add to your tags.

  5. Since you're using the official twitter page's abbreviation, you might as well add "an_fillnote" to your tags as well.

  6. You'd probably want to add "vocaloid", "drum and & bass dnb", etc. for genre and related instruments. More potential genres can be found on the event spreadsheet.

Stella's Basic


  1. There are a lot of rhythms in this map that are very difficult for beginners to play, and emphasis is sometimes placed a bit differently to how other maps do it. Stacks and overlapping seem to be used in the map as well, and it is very reminiscent of a normal in that regard. Therefore, due to the argument of readability and irregular rhythm, it may be better if this difficulty were simply named "Stella's Normal" instead.

  2. 01:30:632 (2) - Starting a 1/2 slider from here is not what the song is suggesting, from how I see it. There is little to no impact and this type of rhythm would likely confuse newer players due to the fact that none of your previous patterns in this hypermeasure have utilized the red tick polarity. There is however a stronger sound on 01:30:332 - and 01:30:782 - which may be used to build a more precise rhythm. I'd suggest a rhythm like this.

  3. 01:31:832 - I don't agree with this pause. The music is far too active here to just ignore it. My previous suggestion would've covered this though, so depending on if you applied it or not, you may want to do something about this.

  4. 01:42:032 - This beat is very prominent in the song, and skipping it for the sound on 01:42:182 - isn't going to work well gameplay-wise due to the way the order of the sounds go. I realize you're trying to follow vocal respective piano, but try always prioritizing the most prominent instruments. Skipping a strong beat of another layer for, a very weak one in comparison, of the current layer will seem weird while playing. You could move 01:42:182 (1,2) - half a beat backwards on the timeline and then extend 01:42:482 (2) - to 01:43:082 - for polarity with 01:43:382 (3) - , in order to solve it, for instance.
    ^ 01:52:232 (4) - Could also be moved back and extended for consistency.
    ^ 02:01:382 (1,2) -

Advanced


  1. This difficulty appears and plays like a Hard difficulty, this also seems to have been mentioned in previous mods. A difficulty's name is actually a very large factor in judging whether the map is ready for ranking or not. It has to be identifiable in some way to players other than looking at the SR. Consider simply renaming it to "Hard" to avoid issues like these.

  2. Why is the beginning of the song mapped in all other difficulties, but not here? Starting instantly in all maps in the set except this would make little to no sense. Consider mapping it here as well for consistency.

  3. There's a lot of minor overlapping in this map. it may be intentional, it may not be, but generally you'd want to keep from overlapping borders and it'll be pretty simple to fix. If you're going to overlap, make it look intentional and aesthetic, very minor overlaps are usually worse than larger ones because of this. If you look at 00:57:032 (3,4) - , for example, you'll see that the stacking of (4) causes it to overlap slightly with (3), which can be fixed by simply moving 00:57:482 (4,1) - a bit further to the right. 01:45:632 (5,6) -, 02:12:632 (4,1) - , 03:22:382 (3,2) - , 03:23:882 (1,3) - , etc, I'm sure you know where they are. At least try fixing some of them, as some don't look very intentional. Moving notes a few pixels won't make much difference on the gameplay directly, but it will on the aesthetics, which in turn makes the map more readable and affects gameplay positively.

  4. 00:25:532 (2,3) - 01:21:782 (1,2) - 01:55:832 (7,8) - 02:44:432 (1,2) - 03:35:132 (2,3) - These anti-jumps are stacked the same way 1/2 gaps are stacked. Try unstacking them a bit, in order to make it more readable. Refer to what you've done at 00:58:382 (3,4) - , for example.

  5. 01:38:732 (1,2) - I feel like some notes are emphasized a bit incorrectly here. The pauses definitely don't help in making it easier to hear. As far as I can hear, 01:39:032 - and 01:39:482 - are relatively strong to where notes are mainly placed in the song. Consider using a rhythm like this, in order to allow the player to predict it easier through anti-jumping and consistently 1/2 gapping.

  6. 02:03:632 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - You don't want to stack these? Some of them are slightly off at the moment.

  7. 03:00:482 (2,3) - Swap these rhythmically for correct placement of emphasis. This does not mean you should keep their positions if the flow no longer fits after swapping; you'll likely have to move them around accordingly.
    ^ 03:27:932 (2,3) - Snare is stronger, the hitsound suggests this too. Consider swapping them rhythmically.
    ^ 03:32:282 (4,5) - Slider reflects pause of drums better and at least 03:32:582 - has an impact unlike 03:32:432 - .
    ^ 03:37:532 (4,5) - Yes, there is a sound on 03:37:982 - , but it's not as prominent as the snare. Try prioritizing the drums wherever they are heard.

Hyper


  1. 00:01:532 (5) - Again, avoid stacking different gaps the same way, for the sake of readability. This is especially noticeable at 00:15:032 (2,4,2) - . I won't mention any other examples, as you should know where they were placed.

  2. 00:08:432 (1) - This spinner could start on 00:08:357 - . 00:08:282 (4) - is syncopation, and because of this there's actually no stronger beat on the downbeat, 00:08:432 - , which in turn means that there is no incentive to start the spinner there if the origin is the resolution of the piano impact, right?

  3. 00:13:532 (2,3) - Again with the rhythm choice. Try swapping them to cover the powerful sounds worth reflecting as clickables and sliders. It wouldn't make much sense you lift your finger on a strong beat in a rhythm game, in my opinion.
    ^ 00:27:932 (3,4) -
    ^ 01:00:332 (5,6) -
    ^ 01:49:682 - This can be reflected by swapping 01:49:532 (3,4) - rhythmically.
    ^ 03:09:632 (1,2) -
    ^ 03:23:132 (2,3) -
    ^ 03:37:532 (3,4) -

  4. 00:54:632 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is going to get really hard to read at first. There seems to be no indicator whatsoever of the snapping switching to 1/3. The way the 1/3 at 00:54:432 - is ignored for the sake of a 1/4 snapped slider definitely does not help. I'd recommend you introduce them to it by having a clickable on 1/4 snapping (basically a white tick), then making it a repeat to cover 1/3. After that the player should understand that the next objects will have 1/3 snapping, and it will be read much easier.

    Or you could just map to the percussion layer instead of the piano, like you did in the other difficulties.


  5. 01:02:432 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This pattern is not what the song is suggesting. It would fit if the song were using constant 1/2 beats of same emphasis, but in this case, beats like 01:02:732 - and 01:03:032 - deserve to be reflected according to their emphasis, due to the prominence of the drums. Placing sliders on those would work much better than having a circle, just like the previous and next beat had. Build your patterns to the rhythm, not the other way around.

  6. 01:05:282 - Honestly I have no idea what you're following here. This beat has an impact of the vocal layer, just like 01:04:532 - had. However, it is mapped according to the impact of the drum layer at 01:05:132 - instead, unlike 01:04:682 - , which is completely ignored.

  7. 01:17:732 (5) - Mapping this sound as an anti-jump in this case isn't something I'd agree with. Note how the same sound is mapped as a slider on two other occasions, 01:16:832 (1,2) - . At 01:17:432 (3,4) - it's mapped as two circles, and the rhythm is dense, but then at 01:17:732 (5) - , the rhythm density is a lot lower without any musical cue. Why would 01:17:582 - be clickable if 01:17:882 - is not? Why would 01:17:282 - even be mapped if it's completely ignored now? At the very least, keep the coverage of sounds the same, for consistency, by making 01:17:732 - a 1/2 slider.

  8. 02:36:032 (5) - Could be NCed to follow your previous and following NC patterns of every measure.

  9. 02:42:482 (1) - For consistency with 02:41:732 (4,1) - , make this a circle and 1/2 repeating slider instead. This way you'll also correctly emphasize the percussion at 02:42:632 - , which you actually did in Advanced here.

  10. 02:06:028 - This timing section is unsnapped, not that it will make much difference, since it's neither unrankable nor in any way affecting the map gameplay-wise, but you might as well snap it, right?

Hitsounds ( Final)


  1. There's a large amount of additions that don't actually do anything. Additions only apply to added hitsounds, unlike samplesets, which apply to hitnormals as well. You may have missed adding a hitsound on it or similar. It's basically all over the map, for example if you look at any of these time points you'll find a bunch more around them as well.

    1. 00:23:132 - 00:33:482 - 01:17:432 - 01:43:832 - 02:10:382 -


    Looking at the pattern it seems like you're trying to reflect the drum-kicks, which would be well and all, but... they don't do anything. You may have wanted to place them as samplesets instead, like you did around 00:51:632 - , in which case it would change the hitnormal. There are notes with additions that have hitsounds, but also follow this pattern of drum-kicks. This means some of your hitsounds that are placed on these drum-kicks will be in another sampleset, which may or may not be a desired effect. Consider tending to these issues, I really see no reason to leave it as it is at the moment.


  2. 00:59:132 - Pretty sure a finish can be placed here.

  3. 02:34:682 - No hitsounds around these parts? If they don't need to be very loud you could always just reduce the volume instead of ignoring hitsounding completely. Consider hitsounding them for consistency.
    ^ 02:45:932 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - More missing around here

  4. 03:31:532 - 03:26:732 - 03:36:332 - Are you going to map these as claps or not? Refer to 03:21:932 - 03:24:332 - 03:33:932 - . Oh, and they're all over earlier as well 00:12:332 - 00:17:132 - . Consider hitsounding these consistently.
Speaking of Final, may want to fade your break at 02:57:632 - like you did in Another and Hyper.

Good luck!
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M4M

[Stella's Basic]

01:31:832 - Note.

[Advanced]

00:58:382 (3) - This why not overlap?
01:29:732 (6) - Overlap.
01:58:832 (1) - Check blanket.

[Final]

00:27:332 (3) - so flow is bad me. Ctrl+G?
01:19:382 (4) - your need slider body whistle?
01:39:032 (1,2,3,4) - same (^)

Funny map. GL
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mod for hentai :>

[Final]
  1. 00:07:982 (3) - change 2 circles make more highlight.
  2. 00:14:282 (1) - down 1 pixel , more perfect.
  3. 00:16:232 (1) - add NC? for easy to ready?? xD
  4. 00:46:232 (3,4) - stcak didn't well
  5. how about equalize combo color like here? looks good and can more easy to ready !!
    01:39:032 (1,2,3,4) - 01:47:882 (2,3,4) - 01:48:632 (1,2,3,4) - 01:50:132 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 01:51:632 (1,2) -
  6. 01:50:432 (1) - I think no need to NC
  7. 03:31:532 (4) - NC better


[Saika's Extra]
  1. 00:19:082 (1) - Would not it be nice to have a little more jump?

    Good job owo)b


[Another]
  1. 00:01:832 (1,2) - how about this follow?
  2. 01:19:832 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - is not harder then Final's part??


I WILL BE BACK!! MAYBE!! /me run
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@diff name as such "advanced" is literally harder normal , its not a common issues , perhaps people mstook it with "standard" as such , which is literally a align as Normal diff name
i have used this diff name in and also this mapset https://osu.ppy.sh/s/198380 , https://osu.ppy.sh/b/371511&m=0 has used the same naming as well . even more this map https://osu.ppy.sh/s/132586 advanced is even higher star rating i think people can differentiate using their heads a little. its not even harder than playing the game.
about stella's lower diff we discussed last night so im putting stella's diff name as Stella's Medium as we both agree because its too easy for normal.

@unusedhitsound , dont trust AiMod because it is somehow buggy , there are no unused hitsound
@drum-whistle is fine because its a custom sound
@tags those tags people arent even using to search and its so trouble some so didnt add
@it is not vocaloid and it is voiced by 1 of the AcuticNotes member(An) but auto tuned.

@Nexass
Advanced - fixed all overlaps
- anti jumps only fixed 01:55:832 (7,8) - 02:44:432 (1,2) - because the other part impact isnt that strong to overlaps
- 01:38:732 (1,2) - no that will be hard and i didnt find it suitable either
- 02:03:632 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - no
Hyper - 00:01:532 (5) revamp the Nc at this part (tho actually i ask testplays and no one read it wrong so didnt get what you mean for the sake of readability )
- spinner nope , i dont like starting spinner on blue ticks
- 00:13:532 (2,3) nothing wrong here and all the other same part
- the NC is indicator to 1/3 , because the next note is slider people can think the next one would be 1/3 as well , so far i asked out rank 60k to test this and he has no problems on reading it as a 1/3 (despite the hit early) but slider dont have accuracy penalty so its fine ) and no i want players to actually learn the challange of variety of beats ( because advanced dont have so but another have.Final is just because i want to make the rhythm more complex and enjoyment)
- 01:05:282 - keep it as it as.
- 01:17:732 (5) if u dont agree its fine , i like it this way
- 02:42:482 (1) - vocal dude

a side note that every difficulty is not treated the same , so you dont simple say map this like you mapped in other difficulty ( unless inconsistencies like missing spinner as such )
unreplied points are fixed accordingly


@Habiholic Advanced - 00:58:382 (3) because strong sound desu!
fixed all in final

@eINess Another - 01:19:832 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) nono its actually very easy !
Final - 00:07:982 (3) no no slider is fine desu!

other all fixed!!

thanks for mods all of u ~~
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Regraz wrote:

[Stella's BASIC]
Personally I think the rhythm is way more complex for such difficulty. And there are really too many 1/2s which, regarding the 200BPM, should really not appear in the lowest diff so frequently.
yea actually this is an 'Easy' Normal diff, so the diffname is quite hard to decide. I'll keep it and wait for more suggestions from others and discuss with rumiao later.

01:30:332 - You skipped a very important sound here. Okay fixed that
02:09:632 (3) - Better to follow the melody here (strings I guess?) instead of drums. Sure fixed
03:24:182 - This should not be skipped either. hmm don't want to make the rhythm so complicate here :<
03:31:232 (3,1) - This overlap is too hard for BASIC It's ok imo ;w; and this diff is not so 'basic' at all actually xD

Naxess wrote:

From #modreqs

Stella's Basic


  1. There are a lot of rhythms in this map that are very difficult for beginners to play, and emphasis is sometimes placed a bit differently to how other maps do it. Stacks and overlapping seem to be used in the map as well, and it is very reminiscent of a normal in that regard. Therefore, due to the argument of readability and irregular rhythm, it may be better if this difficulty were simply named "Stella's Normal" instead.
    yea actually this is an 'Easy' Normal diff, so the diffname is quite hard to decide. I'll keep it and wait for more suggestions from others and discuss with rumiao later.
  2. 01:30:632 (2) - Starting a 1/2 slider from here is not what the song is suggesting, from how I see it. There is little to no impact and this type of rhythm would likely confuse newer players due to the fact that none of your previous patterns in this hypermeasure have utilized the red tick polarity. There is however a stronger sound on 01:30:332 - and 01:30:782 - which may be used to build a more precise rhythm. I'd suggest a rhythm like this.
    Okay do some little fix here

  3. 01:31:832 - I don't agree with this pause. The music is far too active here to just ignore it. My previous suggestion would've covered this though, so depending on if you applied it or not, you may want to do something about this.
    just want to follow the vocal here so sry ;w;
  4. 01:42:032 - This beat is very prominent in the song, and skipping it for the sound on 01:42:182 - isn't going to work well gameplay-wise due to the way the order of the sounds go. I realize you're trying to follow vocal respective piano, but try always prioritizing the most prominent instruments. Skipping a strong beat of another layer for, a very weak one in comparison, of the current layer will seem weird while playing. You could move 01:42:182 (1,2) - half a beat backwards on the timeline and then extend 01:42:482 (2) - to 01:43:082 - for polarity with 01:43:382 (3) - , in order to solve it, for instance.
    ^ 01:52:232 (4) - Could also be moved back and extended for consistency.
    ^ 02:01:382 (1,2) -
nah I still insist on just following the vocal here. So I'll just keep it and waiting for more suggestions to come

HabiHolic wrote:

[Stella's Basic]

01:31:832 - Note. just want to follow the vocal and it's no vocal here so sry ;w;
Thanks for your modding~<3

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378,27,201332,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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91,374,203882,2,0,B|69:311|69:311|127:269|112:189,1,200,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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118,162,206132,1,2,0:0:0:0:
194,104,206432,2,0,B|254:89|294:135|294:135|363:115,1,160,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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393,282,210932,1,2,0:0:0:0:
362,191,211232,2,0,P|350:112|384:31,1,160,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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Modded in-game, bubbled
2016-11-10 21:11 Karen: 00:55:832 (1,1) - stack hh
2016-11-10 21:12 Rumia-: ok hh
2016-11-10 21:12 Karen: 01:26:357 (7) - maybe move this up a bit
2016-11-10 21:12 Karen: it looks bad with 01:26:432 (1) -
2016-11-10 21:13 Karen: this
2016-11-10 21:13 Karen: dunno if you can get it hh
2016-11-10 21:13 Rumia-: http://puu.sh/sdw8Y.jpg
2016-11-10 21:13 Rumia-: like this?
2016-11-10 21:13 Karen: yes
2016-11-10 21:14 Rumia-: ok hh
2016-11-10 21:14 Karen: 01:59:957 (4,1) - overlap more or no overlap hh
2016-11-10 21:14 Karen: this is kinda ugly
2016-11-10 21:15 Rumia-: http://puu.sh/sdwd2.jpg this ok?
2016-11-10 21:15 Rumia-: if no overlap become too jb hhh
2016-11-10 21:15 Karen: 02:05:132 (1,2) - i think here should have claps too
2016-11-10 21:15 Karen: ok hh
2016-11-10 21:16 Rumia-: the (2) dont suit with clap i think
2016-11-10 21:16 Rumia-: add at 1
2016-11-10 21:16 Rumia-: i put whistle sounds more reasonable
2016-11-10 21:16 Karen: hmm
2016-11-10 21:16 Karen: ok ok
2016-11-10 21:17 Karen: all nazi things hh
2016-11-10 21:17 Karen: poor modder
2016-11-10 21:17 Rumia-: hh its good
2016-11-10 21:17 Rumia-: i always careless so nazi mod is really appreciated hhhh
2016-11-10 21:17 Karen: 02:24:182 (1,2,3) - the spacing change feels not good hh
2016-11-10 21:18 Karen: also maybe ctrl+g 02:24:482 (2) - this
2016-11-10 21:18 Karen: make the head closer to 02:24:182 (1) - the slider tail
2016-11-10 21:18 Karen: less chance of choke
2016-11-10 21:18 Rumia-: ij ij ctrk g
2016-11-10 21:18 Rumia-: ok ok ctrl g*
2016-11-10 21:18 Karen: ilil
2016-11-10 21:19 Karen: 02:48:932 - all something here?
2016-11-10 21:19 Karen: add*
2016-11-10 21:20 Karen: 02:50:432 - highly recommend to make it clickable
2016-11-10 21:20 Rumia-: ok hh
2016-11-10 21:21 Rumia-: but 02:48:932 - keep
2016-11-10 21:21 Rumia-: 02:50:432 (2) - add
2016-11-10 21:21 Karen: okok
2016-11-10 21:21 Rumia-: i need to add at all diff after this hh
2016-11-10 21:22 Karen: are you sure there're no unused hitsounds?
2016-11-10 21:22 Karen: like normal-hitclap2.wav
2016-11-10 21:22 Karen: where is it used
2016-11-10 21:23 Rumia-: oh shit hh
2016-11-10 21:23 Rumia-: i changed the sample before i forgot to alter this hh
2016-11-10 21:24 Rumia-: ok delete clap 2
2016-11-10 21:24 Rumia-: because i rehitsound the whole diff hhhhh
2016-11-10 21:24 Karen: normal-hitnormal2.wav
2016-11-10 21:24 Karen: this one?
2016-11-10 21:24 Rumia-: there have
2016-11-10 21:25 Rumia-: 03:14:432 (1) - this part
2016-11-10 21:25 Karen: ok
2016-11-10 21:25 Rumia-: 02:25:532 (2) - and this part
2016-11-10 21:25 Rumia-: sample 2 only use hitnormal
2016-11-10 21:25 Karen: 00:48:932 (1) - the hitnormal sound is too noisy
2016-11-10 21:26 Rumia-: hhh
2016-11-10 21:26 Rumia-: ok reduce to 30%
2016-11-10 21:26 Karen: okok
2016-11-10 21:26 Karen: last thing of this diff
2016-11-10 21:26 Karen: why is it ar9,4
2016-11-10 21:26 Karen: most maps are 9,3 or 9,5
2016-11-10 21:27 Rumia-: idk hh
2016-11-10 21:27 Karen: triggered
2016-11-10 21:27 Rumia-: cuz its comfortable with ar9.4
2016-11-10 21:27 Rumia-: i tested 9.3 and 9.6
2016-11-10 21:27 Karen: okok
2016-11-10 21:27 Rumia-: havent try 9.5
2016-11-10 21:27 Rumia-: tho
2016-11-10 21:27 Rumia-: out of 3 of this ar 9.4 is the best to play so yea
2016-11-10 21:28 Karen: ok no other issues i think
2016-11-10 21:29 Rumia-: ok
2016-11-10 21:29 Rumia-: let me fix the hitsound issues in all diff
2016-11-10 21:29 Rumia-: wait a while
2016-11-10 21:29 Karen: ok
2016-11-10 21:29 Karen: then update
2016-11-10 21:29 Karen: tell me when done
2016-11-10 21:33 Rumia-: ok update
2016-11-10 21:34 Karen: ok
posted
thank you!
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Naxess wrote:

There are unused hitsounds, consider removing them if they're not going to be used.
@unusedhitsound , dont trust AiMod because it is somehow buggy , there are no unused hitsound
2016-11-10 21:22 Karen: are you sure there're no unused hitsounds?
2016-11-10 21:22 Karen: like normal-hitclap2.wav
2016-11-10 21:22 Karen: where is it used
2016-11-10 21:23 Rumia-: oh shit hh
2016-11-10 21:23 Rumia-: i changed the sample before i forgot to alter this hh
2016-11-10 21:24 Rumia-: ok delete clap 2
2016-11-10 21:24 Rumia-: because i rehitsound the whole diff hhhhh
2016-11-10 21:24 Karen: normal-hitnormal2.wav
2016-11-10 21:24 Karen: this one?
2016-11-10 21:24 Rumia-: there have
2016-11-10 21:25 Rumia-: 03:14:432 (1) - this part
2016-11-10 21:25 Karen: ok
2016-11-10 21:25 Rumia-: 02:25:532 (2) - and this part
2016-11-10 21:25 Rumia-: sample 2 only use hitnormal
normal-hitnormal2 is actually never used, and is as such an unused file. I looked through the mapset for all sections with S:C2, since N:C2 didn't exist, and found that nothing is overridden to the normal sampleset within their effect. The only hitnormal being used in these sections is soft-hitnormal2.wav. Check carefully before assuming that the programs are buggy, you never know what you might've missed that the programs didn't.

Ranking Criteria - Audio wrote:

There must not be any unused files in the map's folder except for the map's .osb file (since they sometimes get added even if the map doesn't have a storyboard) and storyboard .thumb files (since they are automatically created in image directories). Unused files add extra file size which is unnecessary.
While we're at it I'd like to bring up some points for reconsideration.

  1. Naxess wrote:

    The length of drum-hitwhistle.wav is considerably larger than what the sound suggests. As seen here and here, more than 80% of this sound is silence. I'd recommend you cut the file as soon as it goes below -40 dB. This is for the sake of filesize and execution time.

    Rumia- wrote:

    @drum-whistle is fine because its a custom sound
    It being a custom hitsound does not justify the excessive length of the file. It still adds unnecessary file size and should as such be treated as equal importance to the issue of unused files.

  2. Naxess wrote:

    The event is "春M3". Consider adding this to your tags. Refer to AcuticNotes' official page.

    Rumia- wrote:

    @tags those tags people arent even using to search and its so trouble some so didnt add
    I can agree that some of them might not be used for searching, but consider at least adding the event itself. There are plenty of other songs from this event that are being mapped in osu, so being able to categorize them wouldn't hurt.

  3. Naxess wrote:

    There's a large amount of additions that don't actually do anything. Additions only apply to added hitsounds, unlike samplesets, which apply to hitnormals as well. You may have missed adding a hitsound on it or similar.
    Lastly, it seems like some unnecessary additions were missed, I'll just copy what my program printed here for convenience. This is for the sake of reducing hitsounding inconsistency.
    unnecessary additions

    00:27:932 - 00:43:532 - 01:13:532 - 01:14:732 - 01:15:931 - 01:17:732 - 01:19:532 - 01:25:382 - 01:30:182 - 01:38:882 - 01:43:682 - 01:48:632 - 01:49:832 - 02:03:032 - 02:06:782 - 02:07:382 - 02:07:982 - 02:08:582 - 02:10:832 - 02:13:382 - 02:16:982 - 02:17:282 - 02:17:582 - 02:18:182 - 02:19:682 - 02:20:582 - 02:22:082 - 03:01:232 - 03:01:682 - 03:01:982 - 03:03:782 - 03:04:382 - 03:04:982 - 03:05:582 - 03:06:482 - 03:22:682 - 03:23:132 - 03:25:232 - 03:25:382 - 03:25:532 - 03:27:482 - 03:27:932 - 03:30:032 - 03:30:182 - 03:30:332 - 03:32:282 - 03:32:732 - 03:34:832 - 03:34:982 - 03:37:082 - 03:37:532 -


Still don't agree with some of the rhythm choices, but I guess we'll see what the others have to say.

Recheck, so no kds.
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normal-hitnormal2 is actually never used, and is as such an unused file.
back to your mod post this is what you should post instead of unclear ( which i had no idea which sound i didnt use because i swear i did use them all but i changed halfway because of the i found easierway to sample those . and ranking criteria which i already knew about it since i start mapping in 2012 which making it more unhelpful.

drum hitwhistle -> if u just want to point out thing without solution then dont , if you can cut them , do cut for me. these dont really affect anything at all tbh if its about less than 1mb why would it matter. anyhow i would just ask if anyone knew how to do this anyway.

your mod always have unnecessary stuffs that i dont think its helpful which i think you need to improve your wording for your future modding.
get straight to the point is more helpful then tonnes of word explaining unnecessary things which dont get me anywhere
still those tags dont matter to me since it usefor searching songs which most of people would already know an= acutic notes. people dont know what is acl 007 and usually they dont search up by event to get thins song which i think making it more unnecessary.

i will check on those sampleset again ( pretty sure i already fix most of them the other day) when the next bn come
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I realized earlier that I forgot to mention which file was unused, but this would be relatively easy to deduce on your own, with the use of modding assistant programs, which are useful for both mappers as well as modders. This is what I mostly use.
It will literally tell you these things.


The attitude to make the modders do all the work for you isn't good. You are the creator of the beatmap and you're the one responsible for making sure it is of high quality, both map-wise as well as file-wise. Modders will tell you what you can improve and in what way, but their purpose isn't to do it for you (unless the mapper is incapable of doing it themselves, which I don't believe you are).

Here's the cut version.

As a modder, I will point out what the issue is, why I believe it to be an issue and how the issue could be solved. Communication is vital in modding. If the mapper doesn't understand your point, they may change it in a way that isn't preferable. That's why I explain it thoroughly. I'll agree that not all things are necessary, because sometimes I'll mention something solely for the sake of checking whether it was intentional or not.

Rumia- wrote:

and ranking criteria which i already knew about it since i start mapping in 2012 which making it more unhelpful.
In general, if someone knows about the Ranking Criteria then it wouldn't be very likely that the beatmap in question has any unrankable issues in the first place. Quoting the RC is merely a safety precaution to avoid misunderstandings. I won't cater my mods towards whether the person mapping has been mapping since 2012 or 2016; if there is something to be addressed about the map, it will often be addressed in the same way, regardless of who the mapper is.

Either way, this mapset must be popped and/or rebubbled due to

BNG Rules wrote:

If a bubbled map contains unrankable issues, its bubble must be popped. To ensure a map has no other unrankable issues, it’s best for another nominator to examine the map once again.
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i didnt ask you to do everything , i said straight to the point , not questioning the problem, theres no doubt your explaination is wonderful but too much words makes people fed up , keep it simple and on point is the best way to get mutual agreement and understanding, not a long argue-seem-like replies.
i have nothin againts your modding method im just suggesting you to improve your way of delivering your mods clearer.

about the hitsound i really dont know how to cut or do anything about it thats why i asked.
hey everybody makes mistake , i think ive said already when i hitsound i changed the sample number halfway and i forgot to remove the old one. and yes that is my mistake and i think i replied like days ago why didnt u say anything until bn came and check (?) but your recent reply is so fast

anyway thanks for cutting the hitsound and the assistant tool , i am seriously never knew about it. which i couldnt check unused file.
currently in contact with Karen ill check with him once again ~.
i think the bubble pop isnt necessary since i can clearly tell the next bn theres something i fix ( just send them new osz.) can be considered i think.
since its just to ease the next bn to check and i can assure no more unrankable stuffs happening inside the mapset to the qualifier

also decided just to add those tags i hope you are now relieved.
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I was mid-post explaining why Naxess' fixes should be applied, but I guess it's not needed now. xD

Rumia- wrote:

i think the bubble pop isnt necessary since i can clearly tell the next bn theres something i fix ( just send them new osz.) can be considered i think.
since its just to ease the next bn to check and i can assure no more unrankable stuffs happening inside the mapset already
Only intended to do this if it wasn't fixed by the next BN. :p (Before qualification.)
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Everything should be fine now, rebubbled
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2016-11-13 00:38 Kencho: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1100091 An - Saigo [Final]]
2016-11-13 00:38 Kencho: 02:05:282 - kiai should be end at here?
2016-11-13 00:39 Rumia-: oh ur right
2016-11-13 00:42 Kencho: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1110572 An - Saigo [Stella's Medium]]
2016-11-13 00:42 Kencho: 00:51:632 (1) - DS a bit off
2016-11-13 00:43 Kencho: maybe you can ask him to fix?
2016-11-13 00:43 Kencho: or you help him to fix
2016-11-13 00:43 Kencho: 01:52:982 (1) - also
2016-11-13 00:43 Rumia-: i can help i think
2016-11-13 00:43 Rumia-: since just ds off
2016-11-13 00:43 Kencho: ok
2016-11-13 00:44 Rumia-: o this how do
2016-11-13 00:44 Rumia-: xD
2016-11-13 00:44 Rumia-: 1.8 1.2 idk XD
2016-11-13 00:44 Kencho: 1.8x lol
2016-11-13 00:44 Rumia-: lolol
2016-11-13 00:45 Kencho: http://puu.sh/sfP0W/d55cc2d91a.jpg
2016-11-13 00:45 Kencho: something like that
2016-11-13 00:47 Rumia-: ok somehow i fix it
2016-11-13 00:48 Kencho: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1107450 An - Saigo [Advanced]]
2016-11-13 00:49 Kencho: 02:47:282 (3,1) - stack
2016-11-13 00:49 Kencho: lol
2016-11-13 00:49 Rumia-: fixed lol
2016-11-13 00:50 Kencho: 01:38:432 (5,1) - Idk these NCs are on purpose?
2016-11-13 00:51 Kencho: if not then it should be NC on every white tick
2016-11-13 00:52 Rumia-: o actually because of the change of instrument
2016-11-13 00:52 Rumia-: shud i revert to the white tick ? o.o
2016-11-13 00:52 Rumia-: 01:48:332 (1) - this is same too
2016-11-13 00:53 Kencho: I prefer NC on white tick beacause of other diffs such as Another and Hyper
2016-11-13 00:53 Kencho: because*
2016-11-13 00:54 Rumia-: ok
2016-11-13 00:54 Rumia-: change nc then xD
2016-11-13 00:54 Kencho: xD check carefully
2016-11-13 00:55 Kencho: 02:10:682 (4) - 02:11:732 (1,2) -
2016-11-13 00:55 Rumia-: fixed
2016-11-13 00:56 Kencho: 03:01:232 (5) - these part also fixed?
2016-11-13 00:57 Rumia-: fixed
2016-11-13 00:57 Rumia-: fixed until 03:11:882 (1) -
2016-11-13 00:57 Kencho: great
2016-11-13 00:58 Kencho: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1100763 An - Saigo [Hyper]]
2016-11-13 00:58 Kencho: 00:59:132 (2) - here also
2016-11-13 00:58 Kencho: 01:06:032 (4) -
2016-11-13 00:59 Rumia-: fixed
2016-11-13 01:00 Kencho: 03:27:032 (1,2) -
2016-11-13 01:00 Kencho: 03:31:832 (1,2) -
2016-11-13 01:01 Rumia-: fixed
2016-11-13 01:01 Kencho: Advanced also quite different
2016-11-13 01:01 Kencho: I prefer consistent them
2016-11-13 01:02 Kencho: 03:33:482 (3) - eg
2016-11-13 01:02 Rumia-: o yea..
2016-11-13 01:03 Rumia-: ok fixed
2016-11-13 01:03 Rumia-: along with the intro part
2016-11-13 01:03 Rumia-: cuz they are same
2016-11-13 01:04 Kencho: ok
2016-11-13 01:05 Kencho: fix NCs are troublesome lolol
2016-11-13 01:05 Rumia-: yea lolol
2016-11-13 01:05 Rumia-: cuz its affect around those
2016-11-13 01:14 Kencho: when you done then call me
2016-11-13 01:15 Rumia-: kk
2016-11-13 01:18 Rumia-: ok done
2016-11-13 01:18 Rumia-: update ??
2016-11-13 01:18 Kencho: yea
2016-11-13 01:18 Rumia-: kk
2016-11-13 01:19 Rumia-: updated

Go ahead!
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