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Are you good at osu?
Are you good at osu?
Huh. I imagine you were someone who wanted life to be "ideal" and believed that people felt that acting "ideally" was the right way to act. I think people had made fun of that because they thought it'd be "naïve" or "too hopeful".Momiji wrote:
yes, because there seems to be some weird segment of population that amounts to like 30%, which manages to bully other people for things that don't affect anyone - preferences, desires, etc.
one might think that 30% (sorry but I don't know the actual amount so I'm just going by my own experience) is low enough, but you encounter enough people in your daily life for it to matter as well
i still remember the confusion that hit me when I went to school and started interacting with people. i thought everything was simple, and that hurting other people was bad. i thought that the only possible thing to have a problem with is affecting other people negatively. but then i noticed how people are bullying others for liking that, or wanting that, or bla bla bla.
having empathy is especially problematic because i think about this all the time even when nothing bad happens to me.
Definitely not ideal, I only thought that it would be neutral. I never expected that people would go out of their way to help anyone, that takes time and effort after all. I only thought that there would be 0 people (lol i really thought that way) that will hurt others for having unpopular preferences etc. I thought it was impossible to have a train of thought that would allow anyone to do that.Xuequinox wrote:
Huh. I imagine you were someone who wanted life to be "ideal" and believed that people felt that acting "ideally" was the right way to act. I think people had made fun of that because they thought it'd be "naïve" or "too hopeful".
Confronting people about traits that should affect anyone, on the other hand, is a bit more problematic.
i feel like that in a funny way. because I think i unintentionally make many mistakes that would allow people to dislike me. i think i deserve to be bullied for not being good enough in certain aspects. persecution shouldn't be a problem in that case...Xuequinox wrote:
Do you feel like people intentionally persecute you for what you like to do, or for who you are?
ehhh I don't really know how I feel about people phrasing what they feel is wrong or unsavory as "evil". It just sounds... off.Momiji wrote:
I would probably teach them to be not be evil, a very basic thing...
I think hurting other people is evil, nothing else ;w; If they disagree or if they add more to it, it's their own view that they ended up developing over time and that's fine. teaching isn't supposed to be complete and utter indoctrination after all :p Instead of judging, I want to help people directly or indirectly. Without being forceful at allXuequinox wrote:
By technicality, no, because ive never had it (I don't drink soda, or anything other than water or maybe juice occasionally).ehhh I don't really know how I feel about people phrasing what they feel is wrong or unsavory as "evil". It just sounds... off.Momiji wrote:
I would probably teach them to be not be evil, a very basic thing...
Yes it's definitely wrong but also to a limited extent. If you use it for your own benefit for example, you are just being selfish which is quite bad but not to a maximum extent. If you are doing it to achieve something good in other locations, it's bad but with a larger hint of good in it. It's better to not mislead people or be dishonest in the first place, but it does matter what exactly you're doing c:Xuequinox wrote:
Do you think that lying to others without malevolent intent is wrong, because you're still lying?
Huh. From my perspective, I'd say lying to people for your own benefit (for example, saying you finished a task when you hadn't just to receive appraisal or gifts) is a pretty harmful thing to do as it tends to cause you to think that you can be lazy and not affect people around you, meaning you'll being resorting to underhanded actions to make things more convenient. If it's for someone else's benefit, I wouldn't think it's harmful at all, mostly due to something that happened between a friend and I.Momiji wrote:
Yes it's definitely wrong but also to a limited extent. If you use it for your own benefit for example, you are just being selfish which is quite bad but not to a maximum extent. If you are doing it to achieve something good in other locations, it's bad but with a larger hint of good in it. It's better to not mislead people or be dishonest in the first place, but it does matter what exactly you're doing
I would say so too, but I just said it's not maximum because maximum would be if you're only doing it to harm someone, and not even trying to benefit from it yourself lol.Xuequinox wrote:
Huh. From my perspective, I'd say lying to people for your own benefit (for example, saying you finished a task when you hadn't just to receive appraisal or gifts) is a pretty harmful thing to do as it tends to cause you to think that you can be lazy and not affect people around you, meaning you'll being resorting to underhanded actions to make things more convenient. If it's for someone else's benefit, I wouldn't think it's harmful at all, mostly due to something that happened between a friend and I.
I remember that, so would you say that your own consideration and whether you are able to come to terms with it or not has an impact as well? Do you think there were any other, better options to help you with that "realization"?Xuequinox wrote:
So a few months back, around New Year's, after I had explained my living circumstances, he decided it'd be best to fake a suicide attempt. This was online, by the way. He stated he'd jump out of his 3-story window or something, and went silent for a good 12 minutes or so. He then came back to say his legs were broken and somehow he didn't fall on his head.
About another 10 minutes later he apologized and told me why he did that, saying that he wanted me to realize my life was shit and that I should stop accepting and tolerating everything as if it was all okay when it really isn't.
Somehow, I forgave him. It helped me quite a lot, so... yeah. I'm pretty glad it wasn't real, too.
I've heard a line of questioning similar to this.Momiji wrote:
would you say that your own consideration and whether you are able to come to terms with it or not has an impact as well? Do you think there were any other, better options to help you with that "realization"?
Honestly, I think that perfectly reasonable. Not really sure how it's narrow-minded, as it doesnt necessarily reject any other explanation for why people can like videogames or anything. So yeah! I think you should just do you want, especially when you have a boyfriend, since your relationship should be more important.Momiji wrote:
I'm not really interested in/entertained by stuff like playing games, etc. It might sound narrow-minded but I only want to take care of real life stuff and do romantic stuff (uhh) with my boyfriend, nothing else really.
Like has an impact on whether the lie was good or not. You're basically not changing the person's actions, but if you are okay with that happened and forgive them... Then you kind of are, but also not really? That's what I meant - do you see it as having an impact on the person's actions by means of "well i ended up being okay with it so they didn't do anything bad really".Xuequinox wrote:
Anyways, what do you mean by "has an impact"? has an impact with what?
I don't, if I'm eating sweet stuff then it better be sweet all the way. Fruit is for noobs or something... Also the texture of muffins in general isn't appealing to me, they're dry, neutral, and not pleasant to eat (though not unpleasant either)keremal and Reoru wrote:
do you like blueberry muffins?
Ah, okay, that makes sense now. Thanks for the restatement xDMomiji wrote:
Like has an impact on whether the lie was good or not. You're basically not changing the person's actions, but if you are okay with that happened and forgive them... Then you kind of are, but also not really? That's what I meant - do you see it as having an impact on the person's actions by means of "well i ended up being okay with it so they didn't do anything bad really".
Hmm, im not really sure about it anymore. I used to a few years ago, but now I'm actually okay with it.Momiji wrote:
Would you change your real name if you could? If yes you can tell me to what or don't tell me to what