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senya - Iro wa Nioedo, Chirinuru o [OsuMania]

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Envory
Topic Starter
Envory
Ok Updated!
4/26/2017

Diff:Hard and Lunatic
[ Ari Knight ]
237 posts
Joined March 2016
[ Ari Knight ]
Yo!
from Ari Knight Modding Qu'eue' :)

here you go!

|1|2|3|4|

Normal (edited)
  1. 00:04:894 - add note |3| the piano sound, i hear it ni here
  2. 00:06:198 (6198|3) - delete plz, ghost note
  3. 00:06:198 (6198|3) - why there's no note in here(?)
  4. 00:12:720 - add 1 note on the white line, same on above
  5. 00:14:459 - add 1 note per line, on the red, white and red line if you understand
  6. 00:19:894 - add 1 more note
  7. 00:21:633 - ^
  8. 00:28:590 - ^
  9. 00:40:111 - why there's no note here?
  10. 01:53:155 - ^
  11. 01:54:894 - ^ [why always like this?]
  12. 01:56:415 - ^

    This will take too much time editing this [just if you found something related to that, just listen to the song more carefully]

  13. 02:15:546 - use 1 note only
  14. 02:16:415 - add 1 note
  15. 02:19:024 - just 1 note

    Wut? Why like this? This will such a waste of time just editing this
    Just find something related to my mod and do as i tell (if you follow my mod)

    ok that's it for normal

Hard
  1. 00:01:633 - sampe 00:15:981 - coba denger denger lagi deh suara piano-nya, pasti ngeh dah kurangnya dimana [saya mod kelamaan entar]

    overal dah bagus untuk yang hard, sisanya coba di mod sendiri, dengerin bener bener masing masing suara di musiknya

dah itu aja maap dikit

sisanya coba di dengerin ulang deh sambil liat autoplay-nya atau test sendiri, dengerin kalo ada yang kurang

Good Luck! ;)
Envory
Topic Starter
Envory

Ari Knight wrote:

Yo!
from Ari Knight Modding Qu'eue' :)

here you go!

|1|2|3|4|

Normal (edited)
  1. 00:04:894 - add note |3| the piano sound, i hear it ni here
  2. 00:06:198 (6198|3) - delete plz, ghost note
  3. 00:06:198 (6198|3) - why there's no note in here(?)
  4. 00:12:720 - add 1 note on the white line, same on above
  5. 00:14:459 - add 1 note per line, on the red, white and red line if you understand
  6. 00:19:894 - add 1 more note
  7. 00:21:633 - ^
  8. 00:28:590 - ^
  9. 00:40:111 - why there's no note here?
  10. 01:53:155 - ^
  11. 01:54:894 - ^ [why always like this?]
  12. 01:56:415 - ^

    This will take too much time editing this [just if you found something related to that, just listen to the song more carefully]

  13. 02:15:546 - use 1 note only
  14. 02:16:415 - add 1 note
  15. 02:19:024 - just 1 note

    Wut? Why like this? This will such a waste of time just editing this
    Just find something related to my mod and do as i tell (if you follow my mod)

    ok that's it for normal

Hard
  1. 00:01:633 - sampe 00:15:981 - coba denger denger lagi deh suara piano-nya, pasti ngeh dah kurangnya dimana [saya mod kelamaan entar] Itu pola mapping vokal mblo :''v btw saya cek lg 00:05:328 (5328|0,5546|3,5546|2) - ada piano ampe 00:05:981 (5981|0) - .. Thanks

    overal dah bagus untuk yang hard, sisanya coba di mod sendiri, dengerin bener bener masing masing suara di musiknya

dah itu aja maap dikit

sisanya coba di dengerin ulang deh sambil liat autoplay-nya atau test sendiri, dengerin kalo ada yang kurang

Good Luck! ;)

Buru2 amat mz :v btw Thanks 4 your mod! :)
Envory
Topic Starter
Envory
Ok Updated!
28/04/2017


Hard:90% Completed!
Lunatic:100% Completed!
Hitsound:Not yet added :(

Need someone to hitsounding!
Envory
Topic Starter
Envory
Updated!
4/29/2017


D44's Extra 100% Completed!
4hri
175 posts
Joined September 2016
4hri
from Ari Knight Modding Qu'eue' :)

here you go!

|1|2|3|4|

Normal (edited)
  1. 00:04:894 - add note |3| the piano sound, i hear it ni here nice catched Fixed.
  2. 00:06:198 (6198|3) - delete plz, ghost note i intentioned the note for continue notes
  3. 00:06:198 (6198|3) - why there's no note in here(?)
  4. 00:12:720 - add 1 note on the white line, same on above
  5. 00:14:459 - add 1 note per line, on the red, white and red line if you understand
  6. 00:19:894 - add 1 more note im not give note that hearing bass kick sound.
  7. 00:21:633 - ^
  8. 00:28:590 - ^ ^^
  9. 00:40:111 - why there's no note here? FiXed
  10. 01:53:155 - ^
  11. 01:54:894 - ^ [why always like this?]
  12. 01:56:415 - ^

    This will take too much time editing this [just if you found something related to that, just listen to the song more carefully]

  13. 02:15:546 - use 1 note only not give for bass kick sound
  14. 02:16:415 - add 1 note ^
  15. 02:19:024 - just 1 note ^

    Wut? Why like this? This will such a waste of time just editing this
    Just find something related to my mod and do as i tell (if you follow my mod)

    ok that's it for normal


Thx mod :)
Envory
Topic Starter
Envory
Updated!
5\7\2017

AiMod was clear..
Wait for Hitsounding
Surono
7,195 posts
Joined November 2013
Surono
mau zogok brapa nich, 69ribu dolar zimbabwew?
Envory
Topic Starter
Envory

Surono wrote:

mau zogok brapa nich, 69ribu dolar zimbabwew?

Ehrmm aink ga suka sogok2 eaa :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8-) 8-) 8-)

Bub plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz arhgggghhhh msk kwbwrand lg map aink :'''''(
Envory
Topic Starter
Envory
Need Modder again pls..
Yukari_Sama
720 posts
Joined April 2015
Yukari_Sama
MARKED for HS :3

ini FILEnya
saya masih noob kakak :'3

jangan dibuka
= mulai di 00:18:372 di kasih Drum Fast Hit Click 20% di red line,kalau ada 2 note kasih di salah satunya,kalau tidak ada note tidak usah,kecuali di 00:19:242 - 00:20:981 - 00:22:720 - 00:24:459 - 00:26:198 - 00:27:937 - 00:29:676 - 00:47:068 - 00:48:807 - 00:50:546 - 00:52:285 - 00:54:024 - 00:55:763 - 01:02:720 - 01:04:459 - 01:06:198 - 01:07:937 - 01:09:676 - 01:11:415 - 01:13:155 - 01:16:633 - 01:18:372 - 01:20:111 - 01:21:850 - 01:23:589 - 01:25:328 - 01:28:807 - 01:32:285 - 01:34:024 - 01:35:763 - 01:37:502 - 01:40:981 - 01:42:720 - 01:46:198 - 01:47:937 - 01:49:676 - 01:51:415 - 01:53:155 - 01:54:894 - 01:56:633 - 01:58:372 - 02:00:111 - 02:01:850 - 02:03:589 - 02:05:328 - 02:07:068 - 02:08:807 - 02:14:024 - 02:15:763 - 02:17:502 - 02:19:242 - 02:20:981 - 02:22:720 - 02:24:459 - 02:27:937 - 02:29:676 - 02:31:415 - 02:33:155 - 02:34:894 - 02:36:633 - 02:40:111 - 02:41:850 - 02:43:589 - 02:47:068 - 02:48:807 - 02:50:546 - 02:52:285 - 02:54:024 - 02:55:763 - 03:00:981 - 03:04:459 - 03:06:198 - 03:07:937 - 03:09:676 - 03:11:415 - 03:13:155 - 03:14:894 - 03:18:372 - 03:20:111 - 03:21:850 - 03:23:589 - 03:25:328 - 03:27:068 - kasih Drum Hit HAT 30% di red line,kalau ada 2 note kasih di salah satunya,kalau tidak ada note tidak usah,, saran jangan pasang hit hat/fast hit click di bagian 00:30:328 sampai 00:45:981 - 00:56:089 sampai 01:01:198 - 01:25:981 sampai 01:27:720 - 01:30:328 sampai 01:31:198 - 02:09:459 sampai 02:12:937 - 02:37:285 sampai 02:39:024 - 02:44:676 sampai 02:45:981 - 03:27:720 sampai selesai
= 00:15:981 - RevCyHLWX 50%
= 00:32:068 - 01:01:633 - 03:03:807 - 01:27:720 - 01:45:111 - BassKickReverbXD 40%
= 00:45:111 - RevCyG 50% 00:52:068 RevCyG 30%
= 01:00:763 - RevCyRDW 50%
= cymbal use Drum FInish 50%
= snare use KickSWHBD 30%
= kick use KickDBeatBass 50%
= 00:20:763 - 00:24:242 - 00:27:720 - 01:04:242 - 01:07:720 - 01:18:155 - 01:33:807 - 01:37:285 - 01:40:763 - 02:15:546 - 02:19:024 - 02:29:459 - 02:32:937 - 02:48:589 - 02:52:068 - 03:05:981 - 03:09:459 - 03:19:894 - 03:23:372 - Chm Echo long 50%
= mulai di 00:45:981 sampai 00:52:937 snare use Hit Echo 50%
= di bagian 01:28:155 sampai 01:30:328 and 02:39:024 sampai 02:43:807 and 02:59:894 sampai 03:02:068 - ada suara clap pakai clap biasa

*note : kalau misalkan notenya kurang,dibuat sample aja
yah kurang lebihnya seperti itu lah,berlaku untuk semua diff,kurang lebihnya mohon maaf :''3
Last edited by Yukari_Sama , edited 1 time in total.
Envory
Topic Starter
Envory

atian540 wrote:

MARKED for HS :3

ini FILEnya
saya masih noob kakak :'3

jangan dibuka
= mulai di 00:18:372 di kasih Drum Fast Hit Click 20% di red line,kalau ada 2 note kasih di salah satunya,kalau tidak ada note tidak usah,kecuali di 00:19:242 - 00:20:981 - 00:22:720 - 00:24:459 - 00:26:198 - 00:27:937 - 00:29:676 - 00:47:068 - 00:48:807 - 00:50:546 - 00:52:285 - 00:54:024 - 00:55:763 - 01:02:720 - 01:04:459 - 01:06:198 - 01:07:937 - 01:09:676 - 01:11:415 - 01:13:155 - 01:16:633 - 01:18:372 - 01:20:111 - 01:21:850 - 01:23:589 - 01:25:328 - 01:28:807 - 01:32:285 - 01:34:024 - 01:35:763 - 01:37:502 - 01:40:981 - 01:42:720 - 01:46:198 - 01:47:937 - 01:49:676 - 01:51:415 - 01:53:155 - 01:54:894 - 01:56:633 - 01:58:372 - 02:00:111 - 02:01:850 - 02:03:589 - 02:05:328 - 02:07:068 - 02:08:807 - 02:14:024 - 02:15:763 - 02:17:502 - 02:19:242 - 02:20:981 - 02:22:720 - 02:24:459 - 02:27:937 - 02:29:676 - 02:31:415 - 02:33:155 - 02:34:894 - 02:36:633 - 02:40:111 - 02:41:850 - 02:43:589 - 02:47:068 - 02:48:807 - 02:50:546 - 02:52:285 - 02:54:024 - 02:55:763 - 03:00:981 - 03:04:459 - 03:06:198 - 03:07:937 - 03:09:676 - 03:11:415 - 03:13:155 - 03:14:894 - 03:18:372 - 03:20:111 - 03:21:850 - 03:23:589 - 03:25:328 - 03:27:068 - kasih Drum Hit HAT 30% di red line,kalau ada 2 note kasih di salah satunya,kalau tidak ada note tidak usah,, saran jangan pasang hit hat/fast hit click di bagian 00:30:328 sampai 00:45:981 - 00:56:089 sampai 01:01:198 - 01:25:981 sampai 01:27:720 - 01:30:328 sampai 01:31:198 - 02:09:459 sampai 02:12:937 - 02:37:285 sampai 02:39:024 - 02:44:676 sampai 02:45:981 - 03:27:720 sampai selesai
= 00:15:981 - RevCyHLWX 50%
= 00:32:068 - 01:01:633 - 03:03:807 - 01:27:720 - 01:45:111 - BassKickReverbXD 40%
= 00:45:111 - RevCyG 50% 00:52:068 RevCyG 30%
= 01:00:763 - RevCyRDW 50%
= cymbal use Drum FInish 50%
= snare use KickSWHBD 30%
= kick use KickDBeatBass 50%
= 00:20:763 - 00:24:242 - 00:27:720 - 01:04:242 - 01:07:720 - 01:18:155 - 01:33:807 - 01:37:285 - 01:40:763 - 02:15:546 - 02:19:024 - 02:29:459 - 02:32:937 - 02:48:589 - 02:52:068 - 03:05:981 - 03:09:459 - 03:19:894 - 03:23:372 - Chm Echo long 50%
= mulai di 00:45:981 sampai 00:52:937 snare use Hit Echo 50%
= di bagian 01:28:155 sampai 01:30:328 and 02:39:024 sampai 02:43:807 and 02:59:894 sampai 03:02:068 - ada suara clap pakai clap biasa

*note : kalau misalkan notenya kurang,dibuat sample aja
yah kurang lebihnya seperti itu lah,berlaku untuk semua diff,kurang lebihnya mohon maaf :''3

Thx gan 8-)
DoNotMess
485 posts
Joined May 2012
DoNotMess
rly old map, why u ask me to mod anyway wtf
1|2|3|4
Lunatic
00:24:024 (24024|2) - i would recommend something like this https://puu.sh/yU04G/5e833192fd.png so there is clear distinction between the actual melody u map and the bell sound effect, this also looks nicer imo
00:25:111 - this should be 3 notes to emphasize the crash since this is the last diff
00:28:372 (28372|2) - there is only simple hi-hat in this particular part, i suggest to change it like before :3
00:31:633 (31633|1,31633|0) - this could be 3 notes since there is crash or bell in it
00:31:850 (31850|0,31850|1) - only suggestion, but i would love to see this being moved to the right side so it becomes jack, fits the song rather than trill :')
00:44:676 (44676|1) - this piano ln would be lovely if it's extended to 00:45:111 - since u mapped the piano sound at least 1 or 1,5 ln beat long before
00:56:633 - i would suggest to add |3| in this note to fill this empty part for hihat sound, this is quite audible sound and should be mapped at least on the lunatic
00:57:502 - and also this one at |2| if applied
00:58:589 - ^
01:44:242 - mapping here is different from here 00:31:307 - even though it's the same sound, i would suggest to keep the snap (like the blue line 1/4 i marked) but the note amount can be different if u want to emphasize the 2nd part to be harder
02:08:155 - add |4| for snare
02:50:981 - add |1| to keep the density spread on the left also
02:52:937 - to 02:56:415 - would strongly suggest to make something different here besides simple streaming, those guitar sound is pretty noticeable and u can make something from it
03:17:285 - this could be 3 notes to mark the transition of the new part of the song
03:27:937 - same with before

senya songs for touhou fags \:v/
goodluck, hope this helps to improve much further the quality of this senya map <3
Envory
Topic Starter
Envory

DoNotMess wrote:

rly old map, why u ask me to mod anyway wtf
1|2|3|4
Lunatic
00:24:024 (24024|2) - i would recommend something like this https://puu.sh/yU04G/5e833192fd.png so there is clear distinction between the actual melody u map and the bell sound effect, this also looks nicer imo great!
00:25:111 - this should be 3 notes to emphasize the crash since this is the last diff k
00:28:372 (28372|2) - there is only simple hi-hat in this particular part, i suggest to change it like before :3
00:31:633 (31633|1,31633|0) - this could be 3 notes since there is crash or bell in it oh gud boy
00:31:850 (31850|0,31850|1) - only suggestion, but i would love to see this being moved to the right side so it becomes jack, fits the song rather than trill :') i'll keep it up :)
00:44:676 (44676|1) - this piano ln would be lovely if it's extended to 00:45:111 - since u mapped the piano sound at least 1 or 1,5 ln beat long before nc catch
00:56:633 - i would suggest to add |3| in this note to fill this empty part for hihat sound, this is quite audible sound and should be mapped at least on the lunatic
00:57:502 - and also this one at |2| if applied
00:58:589 - ^ ^ yes this nope
01:44:242 - mapping here is different from here 00:31:307 - even though it's the same sound, i would suggest to keep the snap (like the blue line 1/4 i marked) but the note amount can be different if u want to emphasize the 2nd part to be harder biar jadi pembeda mana kiai mana enggak ea :*
02:08:155 - add |4| for snare k
02:50:981 - add |1| to keep the density spread on the left also k
02:52:937 - to 02:56:415 - would strongly suggest to make something different here besides simple streaming, those guitar sound is pretty noticeable and u can make something from it already done hehehehe
03:17:285 - this could be 3 notes to mark the transition of the new part of the song yep
03:27:937 - same with before

senya songs for touhou fags \:v/
goodluck, hope this helps to improve much further the quality of this senya map <3
Thx duck-sama :'''v
Evening
2,464 posts
Joined December 2012
Evening
irc
21:00 Envory: hi
21:02 Evening: helo
21:03 Envory: can i req a mod?
21:03 Evening: i don't really mod nowadays :x
21:04 Envory: hitsounding?
21:04 Evening: i dislike doing hitsounding lol
21:04 Envory: oh fuk
21:04 Envory: lol
21:04 Envory: testplay?
21:05 Evening: oh sure
21:05 Evening: gimme like 2 mins
21:06 Envory: 3:32 mins its okay?
21:07 Evening: yea
21:07 Evening: oh i mean give me 2 minutes, im doing something now
21:08 Envory: oh ok
21:08 *Envory is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1098902 senya - Iro wa Nioedo, Chirinuru wo]
21:11 Evening: lunatic?
21:11 Envory: yes
21:11 Envory: its up to you
21:11 Evening: alright
21:15 Envory: how is it?
21:15 Envory: seems bad lo
21:17 Evening: i think you are able to capture the motions and effects of the song well with the svs
21:17 Envory: yeah
21:17 Envory: it was very hard to capture that
21:17 Evening: i think the biggest issue here is how you choose rhythms in general
21:18 Evening: 00:18:155 (18155|2) - you did 1/4s here, but then you switched to 1/2s
21:18 Evening: which was quite odd of a change
21:18 Envory: where is it?
21:18 Evening: 00:22:937 (22937|0) -  
21:19 Envory: should i put ln at 00:18:155 -  ?
21:19 Envory: or i remove the 00:22:937 (22937|0) - ?
21:19 Evening: well, it's not the LN issue, it's how you decide to transition
21:20 Evening: 00:22:937 (22937|0) - this isn't a key point in the song where the song decides to play some other instrument/change pitch/etc.
21:20 Evening: so it was really odd to see a drastic change in mapping style 
21:20 Envory: i think so
21:21 Envory: and i do a 1/2 snap
21:21 Evening: and im not talking about the note itself, im using it as a timestamp, just to not confuse
21:21 Envory: what a weird
21:22 Evening: what
21:22 Envory: should i remove those lns?
21:22 Evening: do you get what im saying here firstly
21:23 Evening: it's really up to you to decide if you want to go with the LN mapping style or non-LN one
21:23 Evening: it's just not consistent
21:23 Envory: deled those ln
21:23 Envory: k
21:24 Envory: some re-arranged
21:25 Evening: i think that's just the recurring major problem in the map
21:25 Evening: otherwise i think the patterns in this map are not bad
21:25 Envory: just make a consistency
21:25 Evening: yes, just be consistent in sections
21:25 Envory: good opinion
21:26 Envory: but not hitsounded yet
21:26 Envory: rip ranked
21:26 Evening: you can change mapping styles in the map, it's just that you sometimes choose odd places to change
21:27 Evening: but yea that's just my brief take on the map
21:32 Envory: any svs recomend?
21:32 Evening: i think the svs here are enough
21:32 Evening: it's not too much nor too little
21:33 Envory: is it good svs?
21:33 Evening: i think they are fine
21:33 Evening: it's just that the transitions to slowjams are a bit rough
21:34 Evening: it's best to do 1.0, 0.95, 0.90, 0.85, 0.8 instead of 1.0, 0.8
21:34 Envory: where is it?
21:35 Evening: 02:39:024 (159024|2) - here is a bit sudden
21:35 Evening: 1.0 -> 0.8
21:36 Envory: better 1.0 > 0.9 > 0.8?
21:36 Evening: yea, better 
21:37 Envory: ok added sv 02:38:155 -
21:37 Envory: 0.9
Envory
Topic Starter
Envory

Evening wrote:

irc
21:00 Envory: hi
21:02 Evening: helo
21:03 Envory: can i req a mod?
21:03 Evening: i don't really mod nowadays :x
21:04 Envory: hitsounding?
21:04 Evening: i dislike doing hitsounding lol
21:04 Envory: oh fuk
21:04 Envory: lol
21:04 Envory: testplay?
21:05 Evening: oh sure
21:05 Evening: gimme like 2 mins
21:06 Envory: 3:32 mins its okay?
21:07 Evening: yea
21:07 Evening: oh i mean give me 2 minutes, im doing something now
21:08 Envory: oh ok
21:08 *Envory is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1098902 senya - Iro wa Nioedo, Chirinuru wo]
21:11 Evening: lunatic?
21:11 Envory: yes
21:11 Envory: its up to you
21:11 Evening: alright
21:15 Envory: how is it?
21:15 Envory: seems bad lo
21:17 Evening: i think you are able to capture the motions and effects of the song well with the svs
21:17 Envory: yeah
21:17 Envory: it was very hard to capture that
21:17 Evening: i think the biggest issue here is how you choose rhythms in general
21:18 Evening: 00:18:155 (18155|2) - you did 1/4s here, but then you switched to 1/2s
21:18 Evening: which was quite odd of a change
21:18 Envory: where is it?
21:18 Evening: 00:22:937 (22937|0) -  
21:19 Envory: should i put ln at 00:18:155 -  ?
21:19 Envory: or i remove the 00:22:937 (22937|0) - ?
21:19 Evening: well, it's not the LN issue, it's how you decide to transition
21:20 Evening: 00:22:937 (22937|0) - this isn't a key point in the song where the song decides to play some other instrument/change pitch/etc.
21:20 Evening: so it was really odd to see a drastic change in mapping style 
21:20 Envory: i think so
21:21 Envory: and i do a 1/2 snap
21:21 Evening: and im not talking about the note itself, im using it as a timestamp, just to not confuse
21:21 Envory: what a weird
21:22 Evening: what
21:22 Envory: should i remove those lns?
21:22 Evening: do you get what im saying here firstly
21:23 Evening: it's really up to you to decide if you want to go with the LN mapping style or non-LN one
21:23 Evening: it's just not consistent
21:23 Envory: deled those ln
21:23 Envory: k
21:24 Envory: some re-arranged
21:25 Evening: i think that's just the recurring major problem in the map
21:25 Evening: otherwise i think the patterns in this map are not bad
21:25 Envory: just make a consistency
21:25 Evening: yes, just be consistent in sections
21:25 Envory: good opinion
21:26 Envory: but not hitsounded yet
21:26 Envory: rip ranked
21:26 Evening: you can change mapping styles in the map, it's just that you sometimes choose odd places to change
21:27 Evening: but yea that's just my brief take on the map
21:32 Envory: any svs recomend?
21:32 Evening: i think the svs here are enough
21:32 Evening: it's not too much nor too little
21:33 Envory: is it good svs?
21:33 Evening: i think they are fine
21:33 Evening: it's just that the transitions to slowjams are a bit rough
21:34 Evening: it's best to do 1.0, 0.95, 0.90, 0.85, 0.8 instead of 1.0, 0.8
21:34 Envory: where is it?
21:35 Evening: 02:39:024 (159024|2) - here is a bit sudden
21:35 Evening: 1.0 -> 0.8
21:36 Envory: better 1.0 > 0.9 > 0.8?
21:36 Evening: yea, better 
21:37 Envory: ok added sv 02:38:155 -
21:37 Envory: 0.9

Thanks~
Rhezie
365 posts
Joined June 2016
Rhezie

Envory wrote:

Surono wrote:

mau zogok brapa nich, 69ribu dolar zimbabwew?

Ehrmm aink ga suka sogok2 eaa :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8-) 8-) 8-)

Bub plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz arhgggghhhh msk kwbwrand lg map aink :'''''(
Dsr Gblk
Envory
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Envory
Dsr Gblk[/quote]


Bcd kimak
WhiteLotus-
WhiteLotus-
hello Envory!
language: English

what an old beatmap :/


Hard
00:06:415 - > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10750645
00:08:372 (8372|1) - move to col 4
00:08:589 (8589|1,8807|2) - make an alter


lunatic
00:02:937 (2937|2) - 2 notes
00:03:155 (3155|1,3372|2,3589|1) - ctrl+h
00:09:894 (9894|3) - move to col 1 for jacking
00:11:633 - this part too



Goodluck dude!
sadly not hitsounded yet :/
Envory
Topic Starter
Envory

WhiteLotus- wrote:

hello Envory!
language: English

what an old beatmap :/


Hard
00:06:415 - > https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10750645
00:08:372 (8372|1) - move to col 4
00:08:589 (8589|1,8807|2) - make an alter


lunatic
00:02:937 (2937|2) - 2 notes
00:03:155 (3155|1,3372|2,3589|1) - ctrl+h
00:09:894 (9894|3) - move to col 1 for jacking
00:11:633 - this part too



Goodluck dude!
sadly not hitsounded yet :/
Aplied all!
Dark Flame
355 posts
Joined November 2013
Dark Flame
Hello there! M4M is ready to go!

Modding with col [0|1|2|3]

4hri's Normal
00:04:894 (4894|2) - Feels like there is a note missing
00:10:111 (10111|0) - There is the note missing too
00:40:111 (40111|2) - Again a note is missing because i think you are following the piano
01:40:546 (100546|3) - Wouldn't this note be better placed at col 1?
01:53:154 (113154|2) - Piano again (missing note)
01:54:894 (114894|1) - Missing note
02:32:937 (152937|1) - Would but the col 2 note to col 1 and change the next one to col 0
02:33:807 (153807|3) - This one then to col 3
02:44:241 (164241|1) - To col 2 a LN to? because there was 2 notes on every White tick at this section

Hard
01:17:285 (77285|1) - https://puu.sh/Atkks/9bb454559a.png i think the red tick notes are too much on col 2 rearrange?
01:38:154 (98154|1) - https://puu.sh/AtkoX/38a36748d3.png would rearrange that to because you are ambusing col 2 to much for red tick notes ^^'
02:05:546 (125546|3) - Would delete this note to make it a 2 double stack
03:28:372 (208372|2,208372|1) - Wouldn't this stack fit more to col 0 and col 1?

Have fun with these suggestions!
Envory
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Envory

Dark Flame wrote:

Hello there! M4M is ready to go!

Modding with col [0|1|2|3]



Hard
01:17:285 (77285|1) - https://puu.sh/Atkks/9bb454559a.png i think the red tick notes are too much on col 2 rearrange? Oh nice!
01:38:154 (98154|1) - https://puu.sh/AtkoX/38a36748d3.png would rearrange that to because you are ambusing col 2 to much for red tick notes ^^' Nice!
02:05:546 (125546|3) - Would delete this note to make it a 2 double stack 3 for Strong Kick
03:28:372 (208372|2,208372|1) - Wouldn't this stack fit more to col 0 and col 1? Ok

Have fun with these suggestions!

Thank you very much for your Mod! :D
Unknown_player
Unknown_player
Hello from PM request

[Lunatic]
01:01:089 - I think it's not good to put x1 here. I suggest you to delete this SV and move 0.7X on 01:01:198
01:09:241 - The SV looks not comfortable to be played. Try to increase the SV from 1.2x to 1.7 and move it to blue line
03:03:372 - Actually this part i would to recommend you to give a teleport SV here. Maybe you don't know how so i just recommend you to change the multiplier on 03:03:589 - to 1.90x and then move it to blue line. But if you're interested to make the teleport sv, PM me again. It's a bit complicated so i think through IRC would be better
03:34:894 - it's better to make the last SV accelerate (0.8X to 1X)

Actually Extra diff has good SV. You can take it as reference or copy it.


Ok that's it. So far the pattern is good to me. I have no kudosu left to shoot at this map
Envory
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Envory

Unknown_player wrote:

Hello from PM request

[Lunatic]
01:01:089 - I think it's not good to put x1 here. I suggest you to delete this SV and move 0.7X on 01:01:198 thanks for your SV suggestion but i already re-arranged that VS :P
01:09:241 - The SV looks not comfortable to be played. Try to increase the SV from 1.2x to 1.7 and move it to blue line i think this part are not too rough and its enough as evening's said there was no problem so i'll keep
03:03:372 - Actually this part i would to recommend you to give a teleport SV here. Maybe you don't know how so i just recommend you to change the multiplier on 03:03:589 - to 1.90x and then move it to blue line. 1.7 will be fine i though But if you're interested to make the teleport sv, PM me again. It's a bit complicated so i think through IRC would be better
03:34:894 - it's better to make the last SV accelerate (0.8X to 1X) i want to make it slowly

Actually Extra diff has good SV. You can take it as reference or copy it.


Ok that's it. So far the pattern is good to me. I have no kudosu left to shoot at this map


Thanks for your mod!
Oscyy
403 posts
Joined August 2014
Oscyy
owo good thing this was in v1

Normal
  • SV
    SV usage is not recommended on Normal diff, this diff is supposed to be a learning diff for players to time their hit on a mostly 1/2 snap and a little bit 1/4 variation.
  1. 00:17:720 - this 0.8x speed does nothing but decreasing the gap in between 00:17:720 to 00:18:155, plus 00:18:155 - bpm timing point will act like 1x SV changes, these speed changes will make a lot of confusion when playing. That being said, deleting that 0.8x SV is better.
  2. 00:59:024 - slowjam shouldn't yet being introduced by relatively significant slowjam, 0.8x is pretty huge, good usage for higher diff but keep in mind this is the lowest diff on this map. Consider to delete the timing point or make it 0.9x at least
  3. 03:03:372 - this timing point literally does nothing, you already on 1.0x speed, soft custom1 hitsound set and kiai is already off, delete
  • Pattern
    the gap with Hard is surprisingly big in the opening :thinking:
    00:04:894 - add notes, piano sound
    00:10:111 - this piano sound is pretty noticable i think, also the same sets as 00:10:328 - 00:10:546 - piano sound but just a little bit weaker sound, i think 1 note is good
    00:15:546 (15546|1) - move to col 4, uhh left hand is already holding LN on col 1, if its possible keep the other notes on the other hand
    00:26:850 - i don't see why double
    00:30:328 (30328|1,30546|1,30763|1) - avoid this 3 note anchor if possible
    00:39:676 - 00:41:415 i think these sounds is too weak to be layered as 2 notes
    00:56:415 - http://prntscr.com/jqhzre suggested snap, usage of double or single is up to you, i just suggesting this 1/4 snap thing so the layering is'nt off too far with the actual song
    01:02:068 - 01:02:502 - 01:02:937 - etc i wondering why is this not double since you put double for every beat on 00:52:937 - and the fact that that part is actually kiai
    01:09:024 - 01:09:459 - 01:10:763 - must be double, no matter if you refuse to apply my mod above
    01:15:328 - add note, 1 note is good
    01:25:328 - idk why you skip this and not 01:25:763 -
    01:38:154 - double, btw don't apply my point about doubles on every beat here, apply only on kiai, that part should be highlighted more than this part
    01:41:633 - also double
    01:44:459 - add note, the consistency of the transition is also questionable, take a look at 00:31:633 - 01:15:111 - 01:44:676 - , they are the same sound (for the part above my timestamps, i know the beat before my timestamps varies), but you have different layering
    01:45:111 - can you also follow the percussion, this part is so underlayered that almost no difference with 00:32:068, you can put a single note on every 1/2 percussion sound, you can use double sometimes for piano emphasis
    01:58:589 - yeah, see the transition
    01:59:024 - realllly confused on this part, the fact that piano sound is soooo weak, and the layering is not consistent and so questionable. You can instead follow the guitar sound like 01:59:024 - http://prntscr.com/jqi4ja and 02:02:502 - http://prntscr.com/jqi4rw
    02:09:459 - same as my suggestion on 00:56:415 -
    02:12:720 (132720|2) - i think you should delete this vocal note, it will increase the emphasis to the kiai as the kiai is a lot more highlighted
    02:37:285 - compare it with 01:25:981, consistency
    02:56:415 - again ^
    03:16:850 - transition thing
    03:27:720 - my suggestion about 1/4 snap thing

Hard
  • SV
    the recommended usage of sv change is the sv should be sightreadable. Like i said in Normal diff, SV should not make a confusion to interpret the length of the gap/the snap of the object. The easiest way to do this is making the SV become 1x average, that means the length of the gap between two object without SV changes and with SV in effect is the same. How do we know that the SV is already in 1x average? First lets use a simple formula based on Length = Speed*Time, with length acts as length of the gap between two objects, Speed acts as SV, Time acts as how long the SV is in effect. Lets pick the first condition for our first problem:
    00:17:720 - here you used:
  1. 00:17:720 - 1,1x speed for 1/2 beat long
  2. 00:17:937 - 0,4x speed for 1/2 beat long
  3. 00:18:155 - 1x, this acts as normalizing back the speed so we don't need to put this into the formula
    then we calculate the ratio between the length after SV is in effect to the length before SV is added. This can explains us whether the gap become shorter or longer after we add the SV changes. Now we use this formula:
    Length_b/Length_a = average

    with Length_a as length of the gap before SV is added, and Length_b is after SV added. Since:
    Length_a = Speed_a * Time_a

    and Speed_a is 1 because no SV is in effect, and Time_a is 1 beat (gap between 00:17:720 - to 00:18:155), so we can tell that Length_a is 1*1=1, thus:
    Length_b/(1) = average

    Then we have to calculate Length_b, knowing that Length = Speed*Time, and you used 2 different value of speed here, we can do:
    Length_b = Length_b1 + Length_b2
    Length_b = Speed_b1*Time_b1 + Speed_b2*Time_b2

    with Speed_b1 and Speed_b2 being the first and second SV respectively, and Time_b1 and Time_b2 is the time of the Speed_b1 and Speed_b2 in effect respectively. Looking at the timing points above, we have
  4. Speed_b1 = 1,1x
  5. Speed_b2 = 0,4x
  6. Time_b1 = 1/2 beat
  7. Time_b2 = 1/2 beat
    and then we can substitute it to our formula:
    Length_b = 1,1*1/2 + 0,4*1/2
    Length_b = 0,75

    and then, substitute back to our first formula:
    Length_b/(1) = average
    0,75/(1) = average
    average = 0,75

    when the value lies above 1, that means the gap after we add SV is increased. On the other hand, if it falls below 1, the gap decreased. However, the value we are looking here is exactly 1

    Since i've explained you about SV average above, now i can just suggest you the value and the timestamps only like
  8. 00:17:720 - 1,25x
  9. 00:17:937 - 0,75x
  10. 00:18:155 - 1x
    and soon, alright thats my first actual point

    I like the idea about speeding up in the end, so i think we can use faster speed on the end but keeping it on the same average. But i see you want this part as a part of slowjam because you used 0,8x speed on 00:59:024, then we can make it 0,8x average
  11. 01:00:763 - 0,4x
  12. 01:00:872 - 0,6x
  13. 01:00:981 - 1x
  14. 01:01:089 - 1,2x
  15. 01:01:198 - 0,8x
    But if you want that part being 1x speed already, you can use:
  16. 01:00:763 - 0,5x
  17. 01:00:872 - 0,75x
  18. 01:00:981 - 1,25x
  19. 01:01:089 - 1,5x
  20. 01:01:198 - 1x
    the value on 01:01:198 - depends on what is the average you want to use on that part
  21. 01:09:024 - 0,3x
  22. 01:09:241 - 1,5x
  23. 01:09:350 - 1,9x
  24. 01:09:459 - 1x
  1. 01:10:763 - 0,4x
  2. 01:10:981 - 1,4x
  3. 01:11:089 - 1,8x
  4. 01:11:198 - 1x
  1. 01:22:937 - 0,3x
  2. 01:23:154 - 1,5x
  3. 01:23:263 - 1,9x
  4. 01:23:372 - 1x
  1. 01:24:676 - 0,4x
  2. 01:24:894 - 1,4x
  3. 01:25:002 - 1,8x
  4. 01:25:111 - 1x
    ^those 4 groups of SV changes is for kiai part, you can apply that value for another 2 kiais
  5. 02:53:372 - 0,3x
  6. 02:53:589 - 1,5x
  7. 02:53:698 - 1,9x
  8. 02:53:807 - 1x
  9. 02:55:111 - 0,4x
  10. 02:55:328 - 1,4x
  11. 02:55:437 - 1,8x
  12. 02:55:546 - 1x

    03:35:546 - for this part, the sound is getting louder towards the end, so i like if the faster speed is on the end, not the slower one. Putting slower speed on the end of ln can also make harder timing for the release.
  13. 03:35:546 - 0,6x
  14. 03:35:763 - 0,7x
  15. 03:35:981 - 0,9x
  16. 03:36:198 - 1x
  • Pattern
    00:02:720 - missed piano sound
    00:11:850 (11850|3) - if this is for piano, extend this to 00:12:502 -
    00:40:111 - missed piano sound
    00:41:850 - ^
    00:42:828 - ^
    00:43:154 - ^
    00:44:894 (44894|1) - can you make this ends on 00:45:111 - so you can add 2 notes on 00:45:981 -
    02:11:741 (131741|0) - i think this is ghost note
    02:43:263 - i hear drum tick or something
    02:44:133 - ^
    02:44:241 - reduce into 1 note, its not as loud as 02:44:350 -
    02:48:154 (168154|1) - should be changing on 02:48:372 -



Lunatic
SV
  1. 00:17:720 - 2,5x
  2. 00:17:828 - 0,5x
  3. 00:18:155 - 1x
  1. 01:00:763 - 0,3x
  2. 01:00:818 - 0,5x
  3. 01:00:872 - 0,7x
  4. 01:00:926 - 0,9x
  5. 01:00:981 - 1,1x
  6. 01:01:035 - 1,3x
  7. 01:01:089 - 1,5x
  8. 01:01:144 - 1,7x
  1. 01:01:198 - 2,4x
  2. 01:01:252 - 0,2x
  3. 01:01:415 - 0,8x
  4. 01:01:470 - 1,1x
  5. 01:01:524 - 1,4x
  6. 01:01:578 - 1,7x
  7. 01:01:633 - 1x
for kiai, use the same value as in hard diff

  1. 03:03:372 - 0,3x
  2. 03:03:698 - 3,1x
  3. 03:03:807 - 1x
  1. 03:35:546 - 0,6x
  2. 03:35:763 - 0,7x
  3. 03:35:981 - 0,9x
  4. 03:36:198 - 1x
  • Pattern
    00:08:807 - add note?
    00:12:720 - 00:12:937 - 00:13:589 - 00:13:807 - missed piano sounds
    00:27:937 - add note for piano emphasis
    00:33:263 - change to ln for vocal?
    it kinda weird when playing, the layering of the piano and vocal is the same so it kinda mixed, i think you better differs it a bit
    01:43:372 - http://prntscr.com/jqknvm
    02:26:633 - 01:15:328 - consistencyon layering, you used double trill on first kiai
    02:39:024 - http://prntscr.com/jqkq82you can follow the guitar sound here, keep it interesting

Extra
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Envory
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[quote="Oscyy"]owo good thing this was in v1

You got the SV at this point
Applied most of your suggestion..
Thanks~
Oscyy
403 posts
Joined August 2014
Oscyy
Extra
  • SV
    i like the idea how the first SV is extremely fast and short then followed by long but relatively slow sv, its almost like a teleport
  1. 00:17:720 - 4,5x
  2. 00:17:774 - 0,5x
  3. 00:18:155 - 1x
    or
  4. 00:17:720 - 2,5x
  5. 00:17:828 - 0,5x
  6. 00:18:155 - 1x
    depends on your preference, if you like stronger teleport, choose the first one
  1. 00:57:068 - 1,4x
  2. 00:57:176 - 0,6x
  1. 00:57:937 - 1,4x
  2. 00:58:046 - 0,6x
  1. 00:58:807 - 1,4x
  2. 00:58:915 - 0,6x
  1. 01:00:763 - 0,3x
  2. 01:00:818 - 0,4x
  3. 01:00:872 - 0,6x
  4. 01:00:926 - 0,8x
  5. 01:00:981 - 1x
  6. 01:01:035 - 1,3x
  7. 01:01:089 - 1,6x
  8. 01:01:144 - 2x
  1. 01:01:198 - 6x
  2. 01:01:225 - 0,1x
  3. 01:01:307 - 0,2x
  4. 01:01:361 - 0,3x
  5. 01:01:415 - 0,45x
  6. 01:01:470 - 0,8x
  7. 01:01:524 - 1,3x
  8. 01:01:578 - 1,7x
  9. 01:01:633 - 1x
  1. 01:09:024 - 0,3x
  2. 01:09:241 - 1,4x
  3. 01:09:296 - 1,6x
  4. 01:09:350 - 1,8x
  5. 01:09:404 - 2x
  6. 01:09:459 - 1x
  1. 01:10:763 - 0,4x
  2. 01:10:981 - 1,3x
  3. 01:11:035 - 1,5x
  4. 01:11:089 - 1,7x
  5. 01:11:144 - 1,9x
  6. 01:11:198 - 1x
^apply these two groups of svs for kiai part

02:09:459 - i already give you suggestion on this part

  1. 03:03:372 - 0,5x
  2. 03:03:698 - 2,5x
  3. 03:03:807 - 1x
  1. 03:27:720 - 1,9x
  2. 03:27:774 - 0,7x
  3. 03:27:937 - 1x
  1. 03:28:589 - 1,9x
  2. 03:28:644 - 0,7x
  3. 03:28:807 - 1x
  • Pattern
    00:15:111 - this sound is not audible
    00:21:850 - http://prntscr.com/jqz17r im not confident with this very very long anchor
    00:30:328 - as the highest diff i expect harder and more challenging stuff than that http://prntscr.com/jqz2on
    01:05:111 - why no minijack here?
    overall, the usage of minijack for vocal is actually don't fits that much
    01:30:763 (90763|1,90872|1) - why is there minijack tho
    01:40:546 - double
    01:43:372 - same transition as suggested
    01:52:828 - ?
    01:53:046 - ?
    there are so much stuff on blue tick that is questionable, i mean 01:47:611 - and 01:47:828 - is good example, they're both follows low pitch piano/bass but the rest of the low pitched sound is skipped, you might want to recheck that part
    01:59:024 - you can do short ln anchor like http://prntscr.com/jqz5lq
    02:22:937 (142937|1,143154|1,143372|1,143589|1,143807|1,144024|1,144241|1,144459|1,144676|1,144894|1,145111|1,145328|1,145546|1,145763|1,145981|1,146089|1) - loooooooooooooooooong anchor
    02:44:350 - you can make minijack
    02:44:894 - ^
    02:45:220 - ^
    02:58:807 - why is that 1/16, the sound is only 1/8 from 02:58:698 - . Bad example of layering
Envory
Topic Starter
Envory

Oscyy wrote:

Extra
  • SV
    i like the idea how the first SV is extremely fast and short then followed by long but relatively slow sv, its almost like a teleport
  1. 00:17:720 - 4,5x
  2. 00:17:774 - 0,5x
  3. 00:18:155 - 1x
    or
  4. 00:17:720 - 2,5x
  5. 00:17:828 - 0,5x
  6. 00:18:155 - 1x
    depends on your preference, if you like stronger teleport, choose the first one
  1. 00:57:068 - 1,4x
  2. 00:57:176 - 0,6x
  1. 00:57:937 - 1,4x
  2. 00:58:046 - 0,6x
  1. 00:58:807 - 1,4x
  2. 00:58:915 - 0,6x
  1. 01:00:763 - 0,3x
  2. 01:00:818 - 0,4x
  3. 01:00:872 - 0,6x
  4. 01:00:926 - 0,8x
  5. 01:00:981 - 1x
  6. 01:01:035 - 1,3x
  7. 01:01:089 - 1,6x
  8. 01:01:144 - 2x
  1. 01:01:198 - 6x
  2. 01:01:225 - 0,1x
  3. 01:01:307 - 0,2x
  4. 01:01:361 - 0,3x
  5. 01:01:415 - 0,45x
  6. 01:01:470 - 0,8x
  7. 01:01:524 - 1,3x
  8. 01:01:578 - 1,7x
  9. 01:01:633 - 1x
  1. 01:09:024 - 0,3x
  2. 01:09:241 - 1,4x
  3. 01:09:296 - 1,6x
  4. 01:09:350 - 1,8x
  5. 01:09:404 - 2x
  6. 01:09:459 - 1x
  1. 01:10:763 - 0,4x
  2. 01:10:981 - 1,3x
  3. 01:11:035 - 1,5x
  4. 01:11:089 - 1,7x
  5. 01:11:144 - 1,9x
  6. 01:11:198 - 1x
^apply these two groups of svs for kiai part

02:09:459 - i already give you suggestion on this part

  1. 03:03:372 - 0,5x
  2. 03:03:698 - 2,5x
  3. 03:03:807 - 1x
  1. 03:27:720 - 1,9x
  2. 03:27:774 - 0,7x
  3. 03:27:937 - 1x
  1. 03:28:589 - 1,9x
  2. 03:28:644 - 0,7x
  3. 03:28:807 - 1x
  • Pattern
    00:15:111 - this sound is not audible
    00:21:850 - http://prntscr.com/jqz17r im not confident with this very very long anchor
    00:30:328 - as the highest diff i expect harder and more challenging stuff than that http://prntscr.com/jqz2on
    01:05:111 - why no minijack here?
    overall, the usage of minijack for vocal is actually don't fits that much
    01:30:763 (90763|1,90872|1) - why is there minijack tho
    01:40:546 - double
    01:43:372 - same transition as suggested
    01:52:828 - ?
    01:53:046 - ?
    there are so much stuff on blue tick that is questionable, i mean 01:47:611 - and 01:47:828 - is good example, they're both follows low pitch piano/bass but the rest of the low pitched sound is skipped, you might want to recheck that part
    01:59:024 - you can do short ln anchor like http://prntscr.com/jqz5lq
    02:22:937 (142937|1,143154|1,143372|1,143589|1,143807|1,144024|1,144241|1,144459|1,144676|1,144894|1,145111|1,145328|1,145546|1,145763|1,145981|1,146089|1) - loooooooooooooooooong anchor
    02:44:350 - you can make minijack
    02:44:894 - ^
    02:45:220 - ^
    02:58:807 - why is that 1/16, the sound is only 1/8 from 02:58:698 - . Bad example of layering

Thx for the Extra mod too~
DeaDMaN44
3 posts
Joined November 2014
DeaDMaN44

Oscyy wrote:

Extra
  • SV
    i like the idea how the first SV is extremely fast and short then followed by long but relatively slow sv, its almost like a teleport
  1. 00:17:720 - 4,5x
  2. 00:17:774 - 0,5x
  3. 00:18:155 - 1x
    or
  4. 00:17:720 - 2,5x
  5. 00:17:828 - 0,5x
  6. 00:18:155 - 1x
    depends on your preference, if you like stronger teleport, choose the first one
  1. 00:57:068 - 1,4x
  2. 00:57:176 - 0,6x
  1. 00:57:937 - 1,4x
  2. 00:58:046 - 0,6x
  1. 00:58:807 - 1,4x
  2. 00:58:915 - 0,6x
  1. 01:00:763 - 0,3x
  2. 01:00:818 - 0,4x
  3. 01:00:872 - 0,6x
  4. 01:00:926 - 0,8x
  5. 01:00:981 - 1x
  6. 01:01:035 - 1,3x
  7. 01:01:089 - 1,6x
  8. 01:01:144 - 2x
  1. 01:01:198 - 6x
  2. 01:01:225 - 0,1x
  3. 01:01:307 - 0,2x
  4. 01:01:361 - 0,3x
  5. 01:01:415 - 0,45x
  6. 01:01:470 - 0,8x
  7. 01:01:524 - 1,3x
  8. 01:01:578 - 1,7x
  9. 01:01:633 - 1x
  1. 01:09:024 - 0,3x
  2. 01:09:241 - 1,4x
  3. 01:09:296 - 1,6x
  4. 01:09:350 - 1,8x
  5. 01:09:404 - 2x
  6. 01:09:459 - 1x
  1. 01:10:763 - 0,4x
  2. 01:10:981 - 1,3x
  3. 01:11:035 - 1,5x
  4. 01:11:089 - 1,7x
  5. 01:11:144 - 1,9x
  6. 01:11:198 - 1x
^apply these two groups of svs for kiai part

02:09:459 - i already give you suggestion on this part

  1. 03:03:372 - 0,5x
  2. 03:03:698 - 2,5x
  3. 03:03:807 - 1x
  1. 03:27:720 - 1,9x
  2. 03:27:774 - 0,7x
  3. 03:27:937 - 1x
  1. 03:28:589 - 1,9x
  2. 03:28:644 - 0,7x
  3. 03:28:807 - 1x
  • Pattern
    00:15:111 - this sound is not audible
    00:21:850 - http://prntscr.com/jqz17r im not confident with this very very long anchor
    00:30:328 - as the highest diff i expect harder and more challenging stuff than that http://prntscr.com/jqz2on
    01:05:111 - why no minijack here?
    overall, the usage of minijack for vocal is actually don't fits that much
    01:30:763 (90763|1,90872|1) - why is there minijack tho
    01:40:546 - double
    01:43:372 - same transition as suggested
    01:52:828 - ?
    01:53:046 - ?
    there are so much stuff on blue tick that is questionable, i mean 01:47:611 - and 01:47:828 - is good example, they're both follows low pitch piano/bass but the rest of the low pitched sound is skipped, you might want to recheck that part
    01:59:024 - you can do short ln anchor like http://prntscr.com/jqz5lq
    02:22:937 (142937|1,143154|1,143372|1,143589|1,143807|1,144024|1,144241|1,144459|1,144676|1,144894|1,145111|1,145328|1,145546|1,145763|1,145981|1,146089|1) - loooooooooooooooooong anchor
    02:44:350 - you can make minijack
    02:44:894 - ^
    02:45:220 - ^
    02:58:807 - why is that 1/16, the sound is only 1/8 from 02:58:698 - . Bad example of layering
Oh, Nice!!!
Thanks for Everything~
Gonna fix this ASAP... ;)
Sorry for all those bad patterns, First time mapping... :cry:
MEGAtive
1,656 posts
Joined August 2013
MEGAtive
O boi this is an interesting one

senya - Iro wa Nioedo, Chirinuru wo



[General]
Mapset: Spread in this mapset are awkwardly bad. The big offender of the spread problem came from Normal and Hard. I can see most of the time Normal and Hard are offering same type of layering, and in some cases Normal are actually Harder than Hard. Also the same case happened with Lunatic and Extra but not that much. Extra doesn't offer something more intricate than Lunatic. It mostly only add a note in between the Jumpstream and cranking up the star rating, not the difficulty of the patterning itself. Keep in mind that you should do some reference with the other difficulty to estimate whether your difficulty spreads well with the other difficulty or not.
Timing: Is there any reason for 00:18:155 - BPM change exist? Both of them doesn't have anything different beside the Offset. I suggest to remove it since the Timing Change are useless currently.
Folder: "BG DeaDMaN44.jpg" and "Kochiya.Sanae.full.565649.jpg" are the same file, but you use "BG DeaDMaN44.jpg" instead. Delete one of it. Also with "BG Mai9392.jpg" and "kochiya_sanae_girl_tranquility_meditation_stick_sky_27631_3840x2160.jpg".
Metadata: Add "maimai MURASAKI" in the tags since the short version of the music are featured in the game.
Hitsound: Haven't checked the Hitsound thoroughly but so far I didn't find anything wrong. Also good job with the Hitsound addition as a spice for the song itself at some point.
HPOD: I think Normal's HP are too low. Buff it to 6.5 or 7.

[4hri's Normal]
Mods
  1. 00:04:242 (4242|1) - You can move this to |3| so the pattern looks cleaner.
  2. 00:04:894 - Add note for the piano sound in case you missed it.
  3. 00:12:068 (12068|2,12285|0) - Move to right once and move 00:12:502 (12502|1) - to |1|. IMO you should differentiate 00:11:633 (11633|2,11850|0) - with 00:12:068 (12068|2,12285|0) - since it sounds different.
  4. 00:12:937 - 00:13:807 - You can add the piano here. It's pretty audible.
  5. 00:14:676 - 00:14:894 - Add note for the piano here. I don't think it's intuitive to omit the piano here and surprises players with the piano at 00:15:328 - especially the novices.
  6. 00:26:850 - Remove one of the note. Your double usage indicate that you use double on the bell sounds but there's none here.
  7. 00:30:328 (30328|3,30328|1,30437|2,30546|1) - I don't think Novices able to execute this particular pattern. I suggest you stick with the single notes stream while Hard has an additional jump.
  8. 00:40:111 - Missing notes for the piano like 00:41:850 -
  9. 01:15:328 - Add note here? To give the players the feeling of 01:01:198 - section are going to be reiterated.
  10. 01:25:546 (85546|1) - Move to 01:25:328 - . I don't think you should omit the 1/2 so suddenly since players would expect it to be a full 1/2 run.
  11. 01:43:372 - Same reasoning with previous 1/4 run, I think you should stick with single stream without a jump and let the Hard do it with the Jump.
  12. 01:59:024 - Uh.. While it's great to have something different happening for the map, I don't really think it's a good idea to offer something nearly-indiscernable for the Novices. Even I when checking this for the first time can't really figure out what you were pulling here.
  13. 03:05:981 - 03:09:459 - Missing doubles for the Bell sound.

[Hard]
Mods
  1. 00:31:198 - This part here is actually easier than Normal. I'd suggest you to do something like https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/odglq9Ub to emulate the drum sound in single succession at |4| while falsely emulate the piano section with the notes at 00:31:307 - 00:31:524 - . This way it became harder then Normal while it doesn't exceed the Lunatic one.
  2. 00:48:807 - I suggest you to move 00:48:807 (48807|1) - to |3| and 00:49:024 (49024|2) - to |1|. That way it has a more difficult patterning compared with the Normal.
  3. 00:52:937 - I suggest you to add an extra notes for the piano like 00:54:459 - 00:55:328 - etc. so the layering become different than Normal. Currently the layering is the same as Normal but with different note orientation.
  4. 01:06:415 (66415|0,66415|1,66633|0) - Well, this is pretty awkward to play. Not a really comfortable pattern, I'd say. Move 01:06:415 (66415|0) - to |4|.
  5. 01:30:328 - Currently the pattern is easier than Normal. You can try something like https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/CAGOLkMa so it became harder than Normal while maintaining its distance with Lunatic.
  6. 03:02:720 (182720|3,182774|2,182828|0,182883|1,182937|3,182937|2) - Well, this is just a Ctrl+H from the Lunatic. I suggest you to omit the 1/8 burst with an LN.

[Lunatic]
Mods
  1. 00:31:198 - You can do something like https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/YbLuNuHI to reassure the layering compared with Hard.
  2. 01:01:633 - This whole kiai section looks really familiar with the Extra discount the jumps in between the stream. I'd suggest you to omit most the Triples to differentiate this diff more with the Extra. Also works with the other Kiai section as well.
  3. 03:34:894 (214894|0) - Start from 03:34:676 - . You can notice the change of the guitar intensity here.

[D44's Extra]
Mods
  1. 00:20:328 (20328|2,20546|2,20763|2,20981|2,21198|2,21415|2,21633|2,21850|2,22068|2,22285|2) - 00:24:241 (24241|2,24459|2,24676|2,24894|2,25111|2,25328|2,25546|2,25763|2) - Boi the hammering is long. Move some to other column. Like 00:21:415 (21415|2) - to |4| and 00:21:850 (21850|2) - to |1| and 00:24:459 (24459|2,24568|1,24676|2) - Ctrl+H etc. The main problem with your map is that most of the time it's too heavy for the Right hand.
  2. 01:02:720 - Try https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/TnWyWE5K if you want to do minijack in this kind of section.
  3. 01:04:676 - Try https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/NvmLrrQy .

    Well, just... Make sure your stairs doesn't anchor for really long and balance the minijacks. There's so much of this throughout the whole map Orz.

Your patterning is good enough, but it doesn't really synergize well with each of the difficulty available.

Good Luck~
Envory
Topic Starter
Envory

MEGAtive wrote:

O boi this is an interesting one

[notice]

senya - Iro wa Nioedo, Chirinuru wo



[General]
Mapset: Spread in this mapset are awkwardly bad. The big offender of the spread problem came from Normal and Hard. I can see most of the time Normal and Hard are offering same type of layering, and in some cases Normal are actually Harder than Hard. Also the same case happened with Lunatic and Extra but not that much. Extra doesn't offer something more intricate than Lunatic. It mostly only add a note in between the Jumpstream and cranking up the star rating, not the difficulty of the patterning itself. Keep in mind that you should do some reference with the other difficulty to estimate whether your difficulty spreads well with the other difficulty or not.
Timing: Is there any reason for 00:18:155 - BPM change exist? Both of them doesn't have anything different beside the Offset. I suggest to remove it since the Timing Change are useless currently.
Folder: "BG DeaDMaN44.jpg" and "Kochiya.Sanae.full.565649.jpg" are the same file, but you use "BG DeaDMaN44.jpg" instead. Delete one of it. Also with "BG Mai9392.jpg" and "kochiya_sanae_girl_tranquility_meditation_stick_sky_27631_3840x2160.jpg".
Metadata: Add "maimai MURASAKI" in the tags since the short version of the music are featured in the game.
Hitsound: Haven't checked the Hitsound thoroughly but so far I didn't find anything wrong. Also good job with the Hitsound addition as a spice for the song itself at some point.
HPOD: I think Normal's HP are too low. Buff it to 6.5 or 7.


[Hard]
Mods
  1. 00:31:198 - This part here is actually easier than Normal. I'd suggest you to do something like https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/odglq9Ub to emulate the drum sound in single succession at |4| while falsely emulate the piano section with the notes at 00:31:307 - 00:31:524 - . This way it became harder then Normal while it doesn't exceed the Lunatic one. oh okay then
  2. 00:48:807 - I suggest you to move 00:48:807 (48807|1) - to |3| and 00:49:024 (49024|2) - to |1|. That way it has a more difficult patterning compared with the Normal. i'll keep since the pitch are same as above and i will do some edit
  3. 00:52:937 - I suggest you to add an extra notes for the piano like 00:54:459 - 00:55:328 - etc. so the layering become different than Normal. Currently the layering is the same as Normal but with different note orientation. okay
  4. 01:06:415 (66415|0,66415|1,66633|0) - Well, this is pretty awkward to play. Not a really comfortable pattern, I'd say. Move 01:06:415 (66415|0) - to |4|. okay
  5. 01:30:328 - Currently the pattern is easier than Normal. You can try something like https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/CAGOLkMa so it became harder than Normal while maintaining its distance with Lunatic. well nice suggest
  6. 03:02:720 (182720|3,182774|2,182828|0,182883|1,182937|3,182937|2) - Well, this is just a Ctrl+H from the Lunatic. I suggest you to omit the 1/8 burst with an LN.well i change the burst with stair burst, it will be more easier

[Lunatic]
Mods
  1. 00:31:198 - You can do something like https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/YbLuNuHI to reassure the layering compared with Hard. okay
  2. 01:01:633 - This whole kiai section looks really familiar with the Extra discount the jumps in between the stream. I'd suggest you to omit most the Triples to differentiate this diff more with the Extra. Also works with the other Kiai section as well. re-arranged
  3. 03:34:894 (214894|0) - Start from 03:34:676 - . You can notice the change of the guitar intensity here. oh nice one!



Your patterning is good enough, but it doesn't really synergize well with each of the difficulty available. fixed!

Good Luck~

Thanks for Mod! :D
Alter-
164 posts
Joined September 2014
Alter-
Hi there Envory

Random modder here (friend of DonotMess)

Modding D44's Extra


I'm kinda confused to how this diff is structured. My biggest problems for this is the pattern expression of different distinguishable sounds and having symmetrically evened out patterns to avoid hand bias problems (such as anchor usage). So that's what I'd be getting into for this mod on D44's GD.


@(1)00:18:155 - 00:30:328 - good section, tho I believe the main problem with this is the anchor usage and how (not)symmetrical some stuff is. I'd say to fix this section would be to remap it entirely, and make sure that all the anchors are evened out for each hand, so *3 anchor left should even out with 3 anchor right*

@(1)00:18:155 - there is not a need for a 138bpm timing point here, remove, the song is all 138bpm.

@(1)I'm going to have a max anchor base of 3 notes for this section (will mention all the anchors that are above 3+ and that are not evened out) You look at the box of anchors in that section, and tell me if you believe this section is symmetrically evened out between both hands.
ALL ANCHORS WITHIN SECTION @(1)
^00:18:155 (18155|2,18372|2,18589|2,18807|2,19024|2) - 5 note anchor (right)
^00:19:241 (19241|1,19459|1,19676|1,19894|1) - 4 note anchor (left)
^00:19:350 (19350|2,19568|2,19785|2,20002|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^00:20:328 (20328|2,20546|2,20763|2,20981|2,21198|2,21415|2,21633|2,21850|2,22068|2,22285|2) - clearly do not have an understanding of what's intentional in this diff because, I can't figure out why there is a 10 note anchor here. (right)
^00:20:872 (20872|1,21089|1,21307|1,21524|1,21741|1) - 5 note anchor (left)
^00:24:241 (24241|2,24459|2,24676|2,24894|2,25111|2,25328|2,25546|2,25763|2) - 8 note anchor (right)
^00:25:002 (25002|1,25220|1,25437|1,25654|1) - 4 note anchor (left)
^00:26:850 (26850|2,27068|2,27285|2,27502|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^00:27:937 (27937|1,28154|1,28372|1,28589|1) - 4 note anchor (left)
^00:28:589 (28589|2,28807|2,29024|2,29241|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^00:29:676 (29676|1,29894|1,30111|1,30328|1) - 4 note anchor (left)

@(1) Missing double at 00:23:263 - to match your other patterns like 00:21:524 (21524|1,21524|0,21633|2,21633|3) -
^This LN 00:24:024 (24024|3) - should be moved to column 2 to better express the piano's downward pitch 00:22:937 (22937|3,23372|2,24024|1) -

@(1) 00:24:241 - to 00:25:111 - can be mapped a bit differently to break the repetition of the patterning before it (doubles + hands + stairs). This section is seen to be a build up, so perhaps map it with LN's to express the build up into 00:25:111 - where it repeats the same before the buildup.

@(2) Make double for snare+piano
^00:27:720 - to 00:28:589 - is a chance to break repetition by perhaps adding LN for expressing the bell sounds instead of doubles which already express snare+piano before it.

@(2)00:32:068 - 01:01:633 - is pretty good already, lots of expression in the first half of the slow jam, but then it picks up around 00:45:981 - and I see missed potential for 1/4 snare and some basic problems that can be fixed easily.

@(2)First problem of the second can be to add a single note to 00:35:111 - to express the lightly pushed piano there and for comfort playability aswell *not really needed, but suggested*
^would change 00:42:937 (42937|3) - and make it 1/2 on 00:43:154 - (red line) and replace 00:43:154 (43154|1) - with a 1/2 LN to express the change in vocal pitch which goes down.

@(2)Moving onto 00:45:981 - to 00:52:937 - can be seen as a good build up; however, there are missing snare that you must map due to the song being 4.1* and I also judge this section to have max of 2 note anchors. I'll point out all the missing snare that I believe must be mapped.
SOME MISSING SNARE
^00:48:589 (48589|2,48589|0,48807|3,48807|1,49024|1,49024|0,49024|2) - (missing 1/4 snare)
^00:51:198 (51198|3,51198|0,51415|2,51415|1,51633|1,51633|0,51633|3) - (missing 1/4 low bass (snare?)
^00:51:850 (51850|2,52068|1,52068|3,52285|2) - (missing 1/4 snare)
^00:45:981 (45981|0,46198|0,46415|0) - 3 note anchor (left)

@(2)00:52:937 - to 01:01:633 - has some 3 note anchors that need to be changed to 2 note anchors (debatable) and missing some 1/4 snare. However, it seems like this little part of the section (build up) can be made into so much more, such as: mapping the vocals with LN would be cool.
^00:55:546 - to 00:56:415 - is missing some 1/4 snare
^Add single here 00:56:850 - on column 4
^Add single here 00:57:720 - on column 3
^Add single here 00:58:589 - on column 3

@(2)01:00:546 - needs some sort of LN here to express vocal change


@(3) 01:01:633 - to 01:27:720 - is pretty standard, where half of the section is c/p, but the problems I have with this section is mostly toward anchor usage (should have max of 3 note anchor in this section) and non-symmetrical patterning (pretty much the same in @(1))
ALL ANCHORS WITHIN SECTION @(3)
^01:01:633 (61633|2,61850|2,62068|2,62285|2,62502|2,62720|2,62937|2,63154|2,63372|2) - 9 note anchor (right)
^01:03:372 (63372|1,63589|1,63807|1,64024|1,64241|1) - 5 note anchor (left)
^01:05:328 (65328|3,65546|3,65763|3,65981|3) - 4 note anchor (right)
^01:05:328 (65328|0,65546|0,65763|0,65981|0,66198|0,66415|0) - 6 note anchor (left)
^(01:06:415 (66415|3,66633|3,66850|3,67068|3,67285|3) - 5 note anchor (right)
^01:07:285 (67285|0,67502|0,67720|0,67937|0) - 4 note anchor (left)
^01:08:372 (68372|0,68589|0,68807|0,69024|0) - 4 note anchor (left)
^01:10:002 (70002|2,70220|2,70437|2,70654|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^01:10:111 (70111|1,70328|1,70546|1,70763|1) - 4 note anchor (left)
^01:11:633 (71633|3,71850|3,72068|3,72285|3,72502|3,72720|3) - 6 note anchor (right)
^01:12:068 (72068|1,72285|1,72502|1,72720|1,72937|1,73154|1,73372|1,73589|1,73807|1) - 9 note anchor (left)
^01:13:372 (73372|0,73589|0,73807|0,74024|0,74241|0) - 5 note anchor (left)
^01:13:807 (73807|2,74024|2,74241|2,74459|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^01:15:328 (75328|3,75546|3,75763|3,75981|3,76198|3) - 5 note anchor (right)
^01:15:328 (75328|2,75546|2,75763|2,75981|2,76198|2,76415|2) - 6 note anchor (right)
^01:17:285 (77285|1,77502|1,77720|1,77937|1) - 4 note anchor (left)
^01:17:720 (77720|0,77937|0,78154|0,78372|0,78589|0) - 5 note anchor (left)
^01:18:154 (78154|3,78372|3,78589|3,78807|3,79024|3,79241|3,79459|3,79676|3,79894|3,80111|3,80328|3) - 11 note anchor (right)
^01:20:437 (80437|1,80654|1,80872|1,81089|1,81307|1) - 5 note anchor (left)
^01:20:981 (80981|2,81198|2,81415|2,81633|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^01:21:633 (81633|1,81850|1,82068|1,82285|1) - 4 note anchor (left)
^01:25:111 (85111|3,85328|3,85546|3,85763|3,85981|3,86198|3) - 6 note anchor (right)
^01:25:546 (85546|0,85763|0,85981|0,86198|0,86415|0) - 5 note anchor (left)
^01:26:850 (86850|0,87068|0,87285|0,87502|0,87720|0) - 5 note anchor (left)

@(3)I like these 01:02:720 (62720|1,62828|1,62937|3,63046|3,63154|0,63263|0,63372|2,63481|2) - very expressive toward the vocals and even having these as well 01:05:981 (65981|3,66198|2,66415|0,66633|1) - to express piano+vocal. But you're missing either of those expressive patterns here 01:07:937 - to 01:08:372 - and 01:09:676 - to 01:10:328 - and so on, missing a lot of the vocal expressive patterns. I believe you should replace the 12 3 14 2 patterns with more expressive ones because you've used those repetitive patterns throughout the song already.
^Give expression to this piano sound 01:29:459 - perhaps a short LN will do.
^Missing 1/4 piano here at 01:30:763 -

@(4)01:31:198 - to 01:45:111 - I like this section, pretty well mapped, few problems are again, anchor usage should be max of 3 in this section.
ALL ANCHOR IN @(4)
^01:31:198 (91198|2,91415|2,91633|2,91850|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^01:32:285 (92285|2,92502|2,92720|2,92937|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^01:34:024 (94024|2,94241|2,94459|2,94676|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^01:34:568 (94568|1,94785|1,95002|1,95220|1) - 4 note anchor (left)
^01:37:937 (97937|1,98154|1,98372|1,98589|1,98807|1,99024|1) - 6 note anchor (left)
^01:40:002 (100002|2,100220|2,100437|2,100654|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^01:40:111 (100111|1,100328|1,100546|1,100763|1,100981|1,101198|1) - 6 note anchor (left)
^01:40:981 (100981|2,101198|2,101415|2,101633|2,101850|2,102068|2,102285|2,102502|2) - 8 note anchor (right)
^01:41:524 (101524|1,101741|1,101959|1,102176|1) - 4 note anchor (left)
^01:44:241 (104241|2,104459|2,104676|2,104894|2,105111|2) - 5 note anchor (right)

@(4) Really liking these patterns you got 01:32:828 (92828|0,92828|1,92937|2,92937|3) - and 01:34:568 (94568|0,94568|1,94676|2,94676|3) - but then you suddenly stopped mapping them in 01:38:154 - onward, must keep consistency.
^Needs to be a double for piano 01:40:546 -

@(4)Good build up at 01:43:372 - to 01:44:241 -, I think you should up the level and continue the LN by making them harder in section 01:44:241 - to 01:45:111 -


@(5)01:45:111 - to 01:59:024 - is the same as @(3) whereas the max anchor usage here should be 2
^01:51:198 (111198|2) - Perhaps two LN expressing the pitch in vocals while giving expression to the build up would be better here.
^01:58:263 - Missing note

@(6)01:59:024 - 02:12:937 - is very similar to @(2) where the build up has the same concept. Not many problems in this section.
^01:59:024 (119024|3,119241|3,119459|3,119676|3) - must equal 01:59:894 (119894|0,120111|0,120328|0) - in same anchor usage or the patterning will visually look odd.
^02:00:328 (120328|3,120546|3,120763|3,120981|3) - 4 note anchor (right) max of 2
^02:01:633 (121633|1,121850|1,122068|1,122285|1,122502|1,122720|1,122937|1) - 7 note anchor (left) max of 2
^02:03:807 (123807|1,124024|1,124241|1,124459|1) - 4 note anchor (left) max of 2
^02:05:981 - to 02:12:937 - must have a max of 2 note anchors (3 with a reasonable intention)

@(7) A replica of @(3) where as there are a lot of Anchor problems must be fixed (max of 3) and patterning must be fixed *look off @(2) and @(3).

@(8)02:45:981 - to 02:59:894 - Has a lot of Anchor problems and a few suggestions toward the LN structure
ALL ANCHORS IN @(8)
^02:45:981 (165981|2,166198|2,166415|2,166633|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^02:46:415 (166415|1,166633|1,166850|1,167068|1,167285|1,167502|1,167720|1) - 7 note anchor (left)
^02:47:720 (167720|2,167937|2,168154|2,168372|2,168589|2) - 5 note anchor (right)
^02:48:589 (168589|0,168807|0,169024|0,169241|0) - 4 note anchor (left)
^02:48:807 (168807|1,169024|1,169241|1,169459|1,169676|1,169894|1) - 6 note anchor (left)
^02:52:176 (172176|2,172394|2,172611|2,172828|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^02:52:502 (172502|0,172720|0,172937|0,173154|0,173372|0) - 5 note anchor (left)
^02:53:046 (173046|1,173263|1,173481|1,173698|1,173915|1,174133|1,174350|1) - 7 note anchor (left)
^02:53:372 (173372|3,173589|3,173807|3,174024|3,174241|3,174459|3) - 6 note anchor (right)
^02:54:568 (174568|2,174785|2,175002|2,175220|2,175437|2) - 5 note anchor (right)
^02:55:111 (175111|0,175328|0,175546|0,175763|0,175981|0,176198|0,176415|0,176633|0,176850|0,177068|0,177285|0,177502|0,177720|0) - 13 note anchor (left) FOUND THE CHAMPION
^02:55:763 (175763|3,175981|3,176198|3,176415|3,176633|3,176850|3) - 6 note anchor (right)
^02:56:741 (176741|2,176959|2,177176|2,177394|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^02:57:285 (177285|3,177502|3,177720|3,177937|3,178154|3,178372|3,178589|3) - 7 note anchor (right)
^02:57:611 (177611|1,177828|1,178046|1,178263|1,178481|1) - 5 note anchor (left)

@(8)02:50:328 - to 02:52:502 - these LN can be remapped to avoid anchors such as
^02:50:981 (170981|0,171198|0,171415|0,171633|0) - 4 note anchor (left)
^02:51:633 (171633|3,171850|3,172068|3,172285|3,172502|3) - 5 note anchor (right)

@(9) A replica of @(3) where as there are a lot of Anchor problems must be fixed (max of 3) and patterning must be fixed *look off @(2) and @(3).

That's it for my mod, to summarize it all, it was mostly toward the anchor usage in this mapset, and suggestions toward breaking up the repetition within the diff. My solution would be to "make a new difficulty, call it (revisions)" "file, open Difficulty, For Reference, D44's Extra" "Remap the sections that had the biggest anchor issues and even out the patterning as much as you can, and use some of the suggestions I put to break repetition within your patterning. Once the Anchor usage is fixed, I want to come back to this diff and remod it and help with patterning. I believe this mapset can go far, hope you have fun with 25 kudosu!
Envory
Topic Starter
Envory

Alternater wrote:

Hi there Envory

Random modder here (friend of DonotMess)

Modding D44's Extra


I'm kinda confused to how this diff is structured. My biggest problems for this is the pattern expression of different distinguishable sounds and having symmetrically evened out patterns to avoid hand bias problems (such as anchor usage). So that's what I'd be getting into for this mod on D44's GD.


@(1)00:18:155 - 00:30:328 - good section, tho I believe the main problem with this is the anchor usage and how (not)symmetrical some stuff is. I'd say to fix this section would be to remap it entirely, and make sure that all the anchors are evened out for each hand, so *3 anchor left should even out with 3 anchor right*

@(1)00:18:155 - there is not a need for a 138bpm timing point here, remove, the song is all 138bpm.

@(1)I'm going to have a max anchor base of 3 notes for this section (will mention all the anchors that are above 3+ and that are not evened out) You look at the box of anchors in that section, and tell me if you believe this section is symmetrically evened out between both hands.
ALL ANCHORS WITHIN SECTION @(1)
^00:18:155 (18155|2,18372|2,18589|2,18807|2,19024|2) - 5 note anchor (right)
^00:19:241 (19241|1,19459|1,19676|1,19894|1) - 4 note anchor (left)
^00:19:350 (19350|2,19568|2,19785|2,20002|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^00:20:328 (20328|2,20546|2,20763|2,20981|2,21198|2,21415|2,21633|2,21850|2,22068|2,22285|2) - clearly do not have an understanding of what's intentional in this diff because, I can't figure out why there is a 10 note anchor here. (right)
^00:20:872 (20872|1,21089|1,21307|1,21524|1,21741|1) - 5 note anchor (left)
^00:24:241 (24241|2,24459|2,24676|2,24894|2,25111|2,25328|2,25546|2,25763|2) - 8 note anchor (right)
^00:25:002 (25002|1,25220|1,25437|1,25654|1) - 4 note anchor (left)
^00:26:850 (26850|2,27068|2,27285|2,27502|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^00:27:937 (27937|1,28154|1,28372|1,28589|1) - 4 note anchor (left)
^00:28:589 (28589|2,28807|2,29024|2,29241|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^00:29:676 (29676|1,29894|1,30111|1,30328|1) - 4 note anchor (left)

@(1) Missing double at 00:23:263 - to match your other patterns like 00:21:524 (21524|1,21524|0,21633|2,21633|3) -
^This LN 00:24:024 (24024|3) - should be moved to column 2 to better express the piano's downward pitch 00:22:937 (22937|3,23372|2,24024|1) -

@(1) 00:24:241 - to 00:25:111 - can be mapped a bit differently to break the repetition of the patterning before it (doubles + hands + stairs). This section is seen to be a build up, so perhaps map it with LN's to express the build up into 00:25:111 - where it repeats the same before the buildup.

@(2) Make double for snare+piano
^00:27:720 - to 00:28:589 - is a chance to break repetition by perhaps adding LN for expressing the bell sounds instead of doubles which already express snare+piano before it.

@(2)00:32:068 - 01:01:633 - is pretty good already, lots of expression in the first half of the slow jam, but then it picks up around 00:45:981 - and I see missed potential for 1/4 snare and some basic problems that can be fixed easily.

@(2)First problem of the second can be to add a single note to 00:35:111 - to express the lightly pushed piano there and for comfort playability aswell *not really needed, but suggested*
^would change 00:42:937 (42937|3) - and make it 1/2 on 00:43:154 - (red line) and replace 00:43:154 (43154|1) - with a 1/2 LN to express the change in vocal pitch which goes down.

@(2)Moving onto 00:45:981 - to 00:52:937 - can be seen as a good build up; however, there are missing snare that you must map due to the song being 4.1* and I also judge this section to have max of 2 note anchors. I'll point out all the missing snare that I believe must be mapped.
SOME MISSING SNARE
^00:48:589 (48589|2,48589|0,48807|3,48807|1,49024|1,49024|0,49024|2) - (missing 1/4 snare)
^00:51:198 (51198|3,51198|0,51415|2,51415|1,51633|1,51633|0,51633|3) - (missing 1/4 low bass (snare?)
^00:51:850 (51850|2,52068|1,52068|3,52285|2) - (missing 1/4 snare)
^00:45:981 (45981|0,46198|0,46415|0) - 3 note anchor (left)

@(2)00:52:937 - to 01:01:633 - has some 3 note anchors that need to be changed to 2 note anchors (debatable) and missing some 1/4 snare. However, it seems like this little part of the section (build up) can be made into so much more, such as: mapping the vocals with LN would be cool.
^00:55:546 - to 00:56:415 - is missing some 1/4 snare
^Add single here 00:56:850 - on column 4
^Add single here 00:57:720 - on column 3
^Add single here 00:58:589 - on column 3

@(2)01:00:546 - needs some sort of LN here to express vocal change


@(3) 01:01:633 - to 01:27:720 - is pretty standard, where half of the section is c/p, but the problems I have with this section is mostly toward anchor usage (should have max of 3 note anchor in this section) and non-symmetrical patterning (pretty much the same in @(1))
ALL ANCHORS WITHIN SECTION @(3)
^01:01:633 (61633|2,61850|2,62068|2,62285|2,62502|2,62720|2,62937|2,63154|2,63372|2) - 9 note anchor (right)
^01:03:372 (63372|1,63589|1,63807|1,64024|1,64241|1) - 5 note anchor (left)
^01:05:328 (65328|3,65546|3,65763|3,65981|3) - 4 note anchor (right)
^01:05:328 (65328|0,65546|0,65763|0,65981|0,66198|0,66415|0) - 6 note anchor (left)
^(01:06:415 (66415|3,66633|3,66850|3,67068|3,67285|3) - 5 note anchor (right)
^01:07:285 (67285|0,67502|0,67720|0,67937|0) - 4 note anchor (left)
^01:08:372 (68372|0,68589|0,68807|0,69024|0) - 4 note anchor (left)
^01:10:002 (70002|2,70220|2,70437|2,70654|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^01:10:111 (70111|1,70328|1,70546|1,70763|1) - 4 note anchor (left)
^01:11:633 (71633|3,71850|3,72068|3,72285|3,72502|3,72720|3) - 6 note anchor (right)
^01:12:068 (72068|1,72285|1,72502|1,72720|1,72937|1,73154|1,73372|1,73589|1,73807|1) - 9 note anchor (left)
^01:13:372 (73372|0,73589|0,73807|0,74024|0,74241|0) - 5 note anchor (left)
^01:13:807 (73807|2,74024|2,74241|2,74459|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^01:15:328 (75328|3,75546|3,75763|3,75981|3,76198|3) - 5 note anchor (right)
^01:15:328 (75328|2,75546|2,75763|2,75981|2,76198|2,76415|2) - 6 note anchor (right)
^01:17:285 (77285|1,77502|1,77720|1,77937|1) - 4 note anchor (left)
^01:17:720 (77720|0,77937|0,78154|0,78372|0,78589|0) - 5 note anchor (left)
^01:18:154 (78154|3,78372|3,78589|3,78807|3,79024|3,79241|3,79459|3,79676|3,79894|3,80111|3,80328|3) - 11 note anchor (right)
^01:20:437 (80437|1,80654|1,80872|1,81089|1,81307|1) - 5 note anchor (left)
^01:20:981 (80981|2,81198|2,81415|2,81633|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^01:21:633 (81633|1,81850|1,82068|1,82285|1) - 4 note anchor (left)
^01:25:111 (85111|3,85328|3,85546|3,85763|3,85981|3,86198|3) - 6 note anchor (right)
^01:25:546 (85546|0,85763|0,85981|0,86198|0,86415|0) - 5 note anchor (left)
^01:26:850 (86850|0,87068|0,87285|0,87502|0,87720|0) - 5 note anchor (left)

@(3)I like these 01:02:720 (62720|1,62828|1,62937|3,63046|3,63154|0,63263|0,63372|2,63481|2) - very expressive toward the vocals and even having these as well 01:05:981 (65981|3,66198|2,66415|0,66633|1) - to express piano+vocal. But you're missing either of those expressive patterns here 01:07:937 - to 01:08:372 - and 01:09:676 - to 01:10:328 - and so on, missing a lot of the vocal expressive patterns. I believe you should replace the 12 3 14 2 patterns with more expressive ones because you've used those repetitive patterns throughout the song already.
^Give expression to this piano sound 01:29:459 - perhaps a short LN will do.
^Missing 1/4 piano here at 01:30:763 -

@(4)01:31:198 - to 01:45:111 - I like this section, pretty well mapped, few problems are again, anchor usage should be max of 3 in this section.
ALL ANCHOR IN @(4)
^01:31:198 (91198|2,91415|2,91633|2,91850|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^01:32:285 (92285|2,92502|2,92720|2,92937|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^01:34:024 (94024|2,94241|2,94459|2,94676|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^01:34:568 (94568|1,94785|1,95002|1,95220|1) - 4 note anchor (left)
^01:37:937 (97937|1,98154|1,98372|1,98589|1,98807|1,99024|1) - 6 note anchor (left)
^01:40:002 (100002|2,100220|2,100437|2,100654|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^01:40:111 (100111|1,100328|1,100546|1,100763|1,100981|1,101198|1) - 6 note anchor (left)
^01:40:981 (100981|2,101198|2,101415|2,101633|2,101850|2,102068|2,102285|2,102502|2) - 8 note anchor (right)
^01:41:524 (101524|1,101741|1,101959|1,102176|1) - 4 note anchor (left)
^01:44:241 (104241|2,104459|2,104676|2,104894|2,105111|2) - 5 note anchor (right)

@(4) Really liking these patterns you got 01:32:828 (92828|0,92828|1,92937|2,92937|3) - and 01:34:568 (94568|0,94568|1,94676|2,94676|3) - but then you suddenly stopped mapping them in 01:38:154 - onward, must keep consistency.
^Needs to be a double for piano 01:40:546 -

@(4)Good build up at 01:43:372 - to 01:44:241 -, I think you should up the level and continue the LN by making them harder in section 01:44:241 - to 01:45:111 -


@(5)01:45:111 - to 01:59:024 - is the same as @(3) whereas the max anchor usage here should be 2
^01:51:198 (111198|2) - Perhaps two LN expressing the pitch in vocals while giving expression to the build up would be better here.
^01:58:263 - Missing note

@(6)01:59:024 - 02:12:937 - is very similar to @(2) where the build up has the same concept. Not many problems in this section.
^01:59:024 (119024|3,119241|3,119459|3,119676|3) - must equal 01:59:894 (119894|0,120111|0,120328|0) - in same anchor usage or the patterning will visually look odd.
^02:00:328 (120328|3,120546|3,120763|3,120981|3) - 4 note anchor (right) max of 2
^02:01:633 (121633|1,121850|1,122068|1,122285|1,122502|1,122720|1,122937|1) - 7 note anchor (left) max of 2
^02:03:807 (123807|1,124024|1,124241|1,124459|1) - 4 note anchor (left) max of 2
^02:05:981 - to 02:12:937 - must have a max of 2 note anchors (3 with a reasonable intention)

@(7) A replica of @(3) where as there are a lot of Anchor problems must be fixed (max of 3) and patterning must be fixed *look off @(2) and @(3).

@(8)02:45:981 - to 02:59:894 - Has a lot of Anchor problems and a few suggestions toward the LN structure
ALL ANCHORS IN @(8)
^02:45:981 (165981|2,166198|2,166415|2,166633|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^02:46:415 (166415|1,166633|1,166850|1,167068|1,167285|1,167502|1,167720|1) - 7 note anchor (left)
^02:47:720 (167720|2,167937|2,168154|2,168372|2,168589|2) - 5 note anchor (right)
^02:48:589 (168589|0,168807|0,169024|0,169241|0) - 4 note anchor (left)
^02:48:807 (168807|1,169024|1,169241|1,169459|1,169676|1,169894|1) - 6 note anchor (left)
^02:52:176 (172176|2,172394|2,172611|2,172828|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^02:52:502 (172502|0,172720|0,172937|0,173154|0,173372|0) - 5 note anchor (left)
^02:53:046 (173046|1,173263|1,173481|1,173698|1,173915|1,174133|1,174350|1) - 7 note anchor (left)
^02:53:372 (173372|3,173589|3,173807|3,174024|3,174241|3,174459|3) - 6 note anchor (right)
^02:54:568 (174568|2,174785|2,175002|2,175220|2,175437|2) - 5 note anchor (right)
^02:55:111 (175111|0,175328|0,175546|0,175763|0,175981|0,176198|0,176415|0,176633|0,176850|0,177068|0,177285|0,177502|0,177720|0) - 13 note anchor (left) FOUND THE CHAMPION
^02:55:763 (175763|3,175981|3,176198|3,176415|3,176633|3,176850|3) - 6 note anchor (right)
^02:56:741 (176741|2,176959|2,177176|2,177394|2) - 4 note anchor (right)
^02:57:285 (177285|3,177502|3,177720|3,177937|3,178154|3,178372|3,178589|3) - 7 note anchor (right)
^02:57:611 (177611|1,177828|1,178046|1,178263|1,178481|1) - 5 note anchor (left)

@(8)02:50:328 - to 02:52:502 - these LN can be remapped to avoid anchors such as
^02:50:981 (170981|0,171198|0,171415|0,171633|0) - 4 note anchor (left)
^02:51:633 (171633|3,171850|3,172068|3,172285|3,172502|3) - 5 note anchor (right)

@(9) A replica of @(3) where as there are a lot of Anchor problems must be fixed (max of 3) and patterning must be fixed *look off @(2) and @(3).

That's it for my mod, to summarize it all, it was mostly toward the anchor usage in this mapset, and suggestions toward breaking up the repetition within the diff. My solution would be to "make a new difficulty, call it (revisions)" "file, open Difficulty, For Reference, D44's Extra" "Remap the sections that had the biggest anchor issues and even out the patterning as much as you can, and use some of the suggestions I put to break repetition within your patterning. Once the Anchor usage is fixed, I want to come back to this diff and remod it and help with patterning. I believe this mapset can go far, hope you have fun with 25 kudosu!
Omegalul 25 kudos :'''v

Btw Thanks Bro! :D
DeaDMaN44
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DeaDMaN44

MEGAtive wrote:

O boi this is an interesting one

senya - Iro wa Nioedo, Chirinuru wo



[General]
Mapset: Spread in this mapset are awkwardly bad. The big offender of the spread problem came from Normal and Hard. I can see most of the time Normal and Hard are offering same type of layering, and in some cases Normal are actually Harder than Hard. Also the same case happened with Lunatic and Extra but not that much. Extra doesn't offer something more intricate than Lunatic. It mostly only add a note in between the Jumpstream and cranking up the star rating, not the difficulty of the patterning itself. Keep in mind that you should do some reference with the other difficulty to estimate whether your difficulty spreads well with the other difficulty or not.
Timing: Is there any reason for 00:18:155 - BPM change exist? Both of them doesn't have anything different beside the Offset. I suggest to remove it since the Timing Change are useless currently.
Folder: "BG DeaDMaN44.jpg" and "Kochiya.Sanae.full.565649.jpg" are the same file, but you use "BG DeaDMaN44.jpg" instead. Delete one of it. Also with "BG Mai9392.jpg" and "kochiya_sanae_girl_tranquility_meditation_stick_sky_27631_3840x2160.jpg".
Metadata: Add "maimai MURASAKI" in the tags since the short version of the music are featured in the game.
Hitsound: Haven't checked the Hitsound thoroughly but so far I didn't find anything wrong. Also good job with the Hitsound addition as a spice for the song itself at some point.
HPOD: I think Normal's HP are too low. Buff it to 6.5 or 7.

[D44's Extra]
Mods
  1. 00:20:328 (20328|2,20546|2,20763|2,20981|2,21198|2,21415|2,21633|2,21850|2,22068|2,22285|2) - 00:24:241 (24241|2,24459|2,24676|2,24894|2,25111|2,25328|2,25546|2,25763|2) - Boi the hammering is long. Move some to other column. Like 00:21:415 (21415|2) - to |4| and 00:21:850 (21850|2) - to |1| and 00:24:459 (24459|2,24568|1,24676|2) - Ctrl+H etc. The main problem with your map is that most of the time it's too heavy for the Right hand.
  2. 01:02:720 - Try https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/TnWyWE5K if you want to do minijack in this kind of section.
  3. 01:04:676 - Try https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/NvmLrrQy .

    Well, just... Make sure your stairs doesn't anchor for really long and balance the minijacks. There's so much of this throughout the whole map Orz.

Your patterning is good enough, but it doesn't really synergize well with each of the difficulty available.

Good Luck~
Thanks for the Mod!~ ^^
Envory
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Envory
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Unpredictable
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Unpredictable
hey im just curious, where did you get your tags from?
Envory
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Envory

Unpredictable wrote:

hey im just curious, where did you get your tags from?

From Modder and Random People (Tomori Maru,Liger Zero and MEGAtive) and i added some
4hri
175 posts
Joined September 2016
4hri
osu file format v14

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Title:Iro wa Nioedo, Chirinuru wo
TitleUnicode:色は匂へど 散りぬるを
Artist:senya
ArtistUnicode:senya
Creator:Envory
Version:4hri's Normal
Source:東方Project
Tags:Kochiya Sanae Envory DeaDMaN44 4hri 神々が恋した幻想郷 The Gensokyo The Gods Loved kawashiro nitori 河城 にとり かわしろ Even the Blossoming Flowers Will Eventually Scatter 幽閉サテライト Yuuhei Satellite かませ虎 kamasetora Iceon stage 3 theme touhou fuujinroku mountain of faith mayumi morinaga maimai MURASAKI
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Rieri
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Joined December 2014
Rieri
4hri's Normal
  1. 00:31:089 (31089|0,31198|1) - current pattern isn't as fitting since the pitch starts decreasing from 00:31:198 (31198|1) - but the next note is on the far right..
  2. i can hear sounds on 00:39:894 - and 00:40:111 - that should be mapped.. maybe with a lower volume at least
  3. 01:07:285 (67285|1) - 01:21:198 (81198|3) - add a note since it's a clap?
  4. 01:09:024 (69024|3,70763|2) - 01:22:937 (82937|1,84676|3) - there's an audible finish on the head, should add a note
  5. 01:19:894 (79894|0,80111|3,80328|0,80328|1,80546|3) - stair pattern from the right would fit the song more and be consistent with the similar part from earlier
  6. 01:43:372 (103372|0,103372|3,103481|2,103589|1,103698|0,103807|3,103915|2,104024|1,104133|0) - prefer starting from the left, since the pitch is rising
  7. 02:17:937 (137937|3,138154|1) - switch places, creates a prettier pattern and follows the vocal better
  8. I forgot to mention this earlier but, 02:25:762 (145762|3) - rather than having a hold here, i would just add a note on 02:25:871 - since you seem to be following percussions mostly. that sound is much more prominent than the little sound on 02:25:762 - imo..
  9. 02:54:241 (174241|0) - this should start on 02:54:132 - if you meant to follow the guitar.
  10. make sure pattern/rhythm fixes is changed to be consistent throughout the map instead of changing only the part suggested.
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