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JIN ft. Shoichi Taguchi (Sentimental Vector) - Kagerou Days

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Nevo
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 8:09:14 PM

Artist: JIN ft. Shoichi Taguchi (Sentimental Vector)
Title: Kagerou Days
Source: メカクシティアクターズ
Tags: Project Heat Haze 初音ミク -Project DIVA- F 2nd 自然の敵P Shizen no Teki P Teki-P TekiP じん Blindfold mekakucity actors daze カゲロウプロジェクト Shiratoi armin a_r_m_i_n bite you death byd Nao Tomori naotoshi Kalibe Irohas Kansyo-Vector kanso
BPM: 192
Filesize: 7312kb
Play Time: 01:39
Difficulties Available:
  1. A r M i N's Extra (5.31 stars, 452 notes)
  2. Kagerou (5.55 stars, 442 notes)
  3. Kalihas' Insane (4.61 stars, 410 notes)
  4. Nao's Normal (2.33 stars, 211 notes)
  5. Shira's Insane (4.55 stars, 376 notes)
  6. Shunao's Hard (3.38 stars, 293 notes)
Download: JIN ft. Shoichi Taguchi (Sentimental Vector) - Kagerou Days
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Ranked!


Nao's Normal - by Nao Tomori
Shunao's Hard - by Shunao
Kalihas' Insane - by Kalibe and Irohas
Shira's Insane - by Shiratoi
A r M i N's Extra - by A r M i N
Kagerou - by Nevo

Hitsounds by bite you death


Old Version
jschlatt stan
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(P.S. I think to balance out the changes for this difficultly, you should change the cs to 3.7)


Kudosu? Thanks! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Osatia
ok nevo i will mod in chat
Osatia
General

Change the combo colors to have a red instead of a pink and a lighter blue instead of that dark blue.
Add the GDer's names in the tags.
I recommend you use these: HP6.5, CS4.2, and AR9.3 for "Style".

Metadata

Jin ft. Shouichi Taguchi
should be "Shouichi Taguchi" not "Shoichi Taguchi" gotten from http://kagerouproject.wikia.com/wiki/File:%E3%80%90Vocaloid-PV%E3%80%91Kagerou_Days_(Jin)

I may be mistaken but you should add "vocaloids" and "Shizen no Teki-P" to the tags as it quotes
created by Jin (Shizen no Teki-P), a Vocaloid producer. Originally a Vocaloid song series
gotten from http://stanford.edu/~trzhao/CS73N/articles/kagerou.html

You also need "Mekakucity Actors" in the tags as well as it is an adaptation of the anime. Source http://stanford.edu/~trzhao/CS73N/articles/kagerou.html

カゲロウプロジェクト should be in the source and Kagerou Project and Heat Haze Project should be in tags.

You might also want to add "Kagerou Daze" and the Japanese name of it in the tags as well.

I also think you can find a better BG for the "Style" diff.

Style

00:01:922 (1) - NC here.

00:04:110 (1,1) - ^you did the NC here, why didn't you do it before?

00:08:953 (1) - Take off the NC or keep it but take off the NC at 00:09:110 (1) - but I recommend you don't do this second option.

00:16:610 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is just really ugly and rushed so I really recommend you remap this part.

00:18:485 (4) - NC here.

00:18:172 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - The sounds don't even make sense with the jumps so why would you do this?

00:54:266 (2) - Jumps should start here instead of 00:54:110 (1) - as the vocals start there.

01:19:735 (5) - NC here.

That is all for now but you can call me back for another mod.

A lot of this feels rushed and copied and pasted. Take your time on your maps and try mapping other diffs than 6*. GL with the mapset Nevo! :)
pls reply good and not just a "ok/okie" xd
inb4 too much tags xd
Topic Starter
Nevo

JenHideo wrote:

General

Change the combo colors to have a red instead of a pink and a lighter blue instead of that dark blue.
Add the GDer's names in the tags.
I recommend you use these: HP6.5, CS4.2, and AR9.3 for "Style".

Metadata

Jin ft. Shouichi Taguchi
should be "Shouichi Taguchi" not "Shoichi Taguchi" gotten from http://kagerouproject.wikia.com/wiki/File:%E3%80%90Vocaloid-PV%E3%80%91Kagerou_Days_(Jin)


I may be mistaken but you should add "vocaloids" and "Shizen no Teki-P" to the tags as it quotes
created by Jin (Shizen no Teki-P), a Vocaloid producer. Originally a Vocaloid song series
gotten from http://stanford.edu/~trzhao/CS73N/articles/kagerou.html

You also need "Mekakucity Actors" in the tags as well as it is an adaptation of the anime. Source http://stanford.edu/~trzhao/CS73N/articles/kagerou.html

カゲロウプロジェクト should be in the source and Kagerou Project and Heat Haze Project should be in tags.

You might also want to add "Kagerou Daze" and the Japanese name of it in the tags as well.

I also think you can find a better BG for the "Style" diff.

Style

00:01:922 (1) - NC here.

00:04:110 (1,1) - ^you did the NC here, why didn't you do it before?

00:08:953 (1) - Take off the NC or keep it but take off the NC at 00:09:110 (1) - but I recommend you don't do this second option.

00:16:610 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is just really ugly and rushed so I really recommend you remap this part.

00:18:485 (4) - NC here.

00:18:172 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - The sounds don't even make sense with the jumps so why would you do this?

00:54:266 (2) - Jumps should start here instead of 00:54:110 (1) - as the vocals start there.

01:19:735 (5) - NC here.

That is all for now but you can call me back for another mod.

A lot of this feels rushed and copied and pasted. Take your time on your maps and try mapping other diffs than 6*. GL with the mapset Nevo! :)
pls reply good and not just a "ok/okie" xd
inb4 too much tags xd
Since I'm not feeling lazy I'll just make the map good. REMAP HERE WE COME :D

I used what you said in the remap I think.
Shira
finisheeeeeddd

Shira's Easy
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ArtistUnicode:じん feat.田口囁一(感傷ベクトル)
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Ashton
finished my normal

remember no kudosu

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How About Now?!? plz :^(
Ashton
put your code in [box][box] please
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Only 4 Nevo
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Now!?!?! Plz! :-(
Cubby
hi Oven boy
eeee
00:12:860 (1,2,3,4) - 00:12:860 (1,2,3,4) - if these are the same sound why not same distance spacing
00:37:235 (4,5) - u could have made these circles uwu
00:04:110 (1,2,3) - these have high spacing than 00:01:610 (1,2,3,4) - so mebe just try use the same pattern
I'm not sure if that white is rankable in kiai mode uwu
00:55:985 (3,4) - u could switch these around for better flow since this is the calm bit of the song
00:56:922 (2,3,4,5) - make this more comfortable 2
01:12:547 (7) - lower spacing plz uwu
00:00:360 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - tbh u could have just copied and pasted this instead of 00:02:860 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - i could be just autistic
00:19:110 (1,2,1,2) - this feels confortable to play uwu
OR u can just do crl+a+delete Kappa
i want to gd 2 uwu
Topic Starter
Nevo

Cubbby wrote:

hi Oven boy
eeee
00:12:860 (1,2,3,4) - 00:12:860 (1,2,3,4) - if these are the same sound why not same distance spacing you used the same timestamp twice low but this section is built upon increase spacing with each measure to keep gameplay engaging since its literally the same thing repeated like 5 times XD
00:37:235 (4,5) - u could have made these circles uwu in this section im slowly trying to have the rhythm become more simple to have a better transition into the slow part of the song
00:04:110 (1,2,3) - these have high spacing than 00:01:610 (1,2,3,4) - so mebe just try use the same pattern the first one is a 3/4 slider so it has less spacing however that mkakes no sense so i changed things xd
I'm not sure if that white is rankable in kiai mode uwu no idea why it wouldn't be XD
00:55:985 (3,4) - u could switch these around for better flow since this is the calm bit of the song emphasizing the vocal on 3 and 4
00:56:922 (2,3,4,5) - make this more comfortable 2 this plays fine imo
01:12:547 (7) - lower spacing plz uwu should be fine as it is
00:00:360 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - tbh u could have just copied and pasted this instead of 00:02:860 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - i could be just autistic would be boring and i made the map more consistent anyway so this should be resolved XD
00:19:110 (1,2,1,2) - this feels confortable to play uwu banana
OR u can just do crl+a+delete Kappa
i want to gd 2 uwu gds decided already sorry!
Mking
Hi

[Kagerou]
Audio bitrate is too high, recompress thx
00:15:672 (3,4) - maybe make slider 3 curved as it has a more glissando sound to it and sounds different from 4?
01:23:328 (2) - move a bit more down to fit the curve of the slider more? its a bit out of place (like x41 y245)
00:40:360 (1) - second half of this seems assymetric to first half pls fix

map is good my modding is bad cya next time~
Noffy
ultra metadata \o/

romanised title -> Kagerou Days , preferably, as it's what's used for this specific version of the song on the anime's english website.
romanised Artist -> JIN ft. Shoichi Taguchi (Sentimental Vector) , preferably, same reason as above.
Source -> メカクシティアクターズ , add your current source to tags. this is the anime adaption this version of the song is from (and we cant really use kagerou project as a source :c)

- Unicode Title: カゲロウデイズ
- Romanised Title: Kagerou Days
- or: Kagerou Daze
- Unicode Artist: じん ft. 田口囁一(感傷ベクトル)
- Romanised Artist: JIN ft. Shoichi Taguchi (Sentimental Vector)
- or: JIN ft. Shouichi Taguchi (Kansyo-Vector)
- Source: メカクシティアクターズ

- References:
+ http://www.mekakucityactors.com/music/
+ http://1stplace.co.jp/works/specialized/mekakucity_ms/
+ http://www.sen-vec.com/about.html
+ http://www.mekakucityactors.us/story/04.html
+ http://miku.sega.jp/f2/vita/en/song.html
+ https://www.youtube.com/user/senvec13/featured
+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsFxo8SOP04
```==============
Topic Starter
Nevo

Mking wrote:

Hi

[Kagerou]
Audio bitrate is too high, recompress thx
00:15:672 (3,4) - maybe make slider 3 curved as it has a more glissando sound to it and sounds different from 4?
01:23:328 (2) - move a bit more down to fit the curve of the slider more? its a bit out of place (like x41 y245)
00:40:360 (1) - second half of this seems assymetric to first half pls fix

map is good my modding is bad cya next time~
applied al
and tanks noffy for helping with metadata :>
Shunao
why my diff is so nice?
bite you death

Shunao wrote:

why my diff is so nice?
compared to nevo everything is nice :3c
Topic Starter
Nevo

bite you death wrote:

Shunao wrote:

why my diff is so nice?
compared to nevo everything is nice :3c
@global mods im being bullied
bite you death

Nevo wrote:

bite you death wrote:

compared to nevo everything is nice :3c
@global mods im being bullied
lets hit 40 PAGES OF SHITPOSTING, 40 PAGES GUYS! I KNOW WE CAN DO IT!!!
Topic Starter
Nevo
the first page was a good start lol
Shunao

Nevo wrote:

the first page was a good start lol
:3c
Nokashi
Nao's Normal

  1. 00:21:141 (3) - Consider cutting this into circle -> 1/2 slider to better express the guitar and would fit quite nicely in terms of density
  2. 00:25:047 (6) - Turning this into 1/2 would compliment the guitar nicely while not being too dense
  3. 00:27:547 (8) - strong guitar note on sliderend which should be clickable imo
  4. 00:35:047 (6) - Similar point as 00:25:047 (6)
  5. 00:45:203 - Really nice spot for a circle
  6. 00:56:297 (3,4) - I find the music a bit too weak to support a triple here. Consider using a 1/2 slider instead
  7. 00:58:328 (2,3) - I see the symmetry but theres no reason for this be less spaced the previous spacing
  8. 01:04:110 (1,2) - Not really a fan of the 1/1 here. The vocal is currently on 1/2 snaps as well as the synth, so it would be better musically imo if 01:04:422 (2) - was 1/2 slider -> 1/1 slider up until 01:05:047 (3) -
  9. 01:13:328 - Feels like the circle is missing here
  10. 01:39:422 (5,1) - Not sure with 1/4 snapping is really fitting here. In a normal imo, having (5) as 1/2 would give off the same effect

Shunao's Hard

  1. 00:19:110 (1,2,3) - Comparatively this is bit cluttered visually, should be given more spacing for the added movement, much like other patterns
  2. 01:03:797 (4,5) - Imo this could work better as a slider to better express the hold. Instead 01:04:110 (1,2) - these 2 are an optimal place for circles instead of sliders. Either both or one of them
weeee clean

Armin's Extra

  1. 00:01:922 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - These are bit too cluttered at the moment, feels like this diff used to have a different CS value, and the size cluttered these placements a lot
  2. 00:07:234 (3,4) - Same here, these could be spread more to the left, along with 00:07:547 (5) -
  3. 00:21:297 (6,7) - Even though i can justify this jump cause of the guitar here, 00:21:922 (2,3) - this jump is unnecessarily large and shoyld be adjusted to something tamer
  4. 00:28:797 (3,4) - Spacing wise these should be consistent with 00:27:547 (3,4) - as they are supported on rather similar sounds
  5. 00:42:235 (4,5,6,7) - This is a bit too overspaced for the current section which is rather tame in terms of intensity
  6. 00:44:735 (4,5,6,7) - Also this could be mapped in a more gradual manner to express the vocals instead of downright spiking spacing from the beginning
  7. 01:04:578 (4,5,6) - This triple is overmapped
  8. 01:09:735 (3,4) - Somewhat of a weak jump considering the intesity of this section
  9. 01:12:078 (4,5,6) - This is also overmapped
  10. 01:17:078 (3,4,5) - This is also overmapped
  11. 01:23:797 (6,7,1) - Also overmapped
  12. 01:21:297 (6,7,8) - I can faintly hear something here, but its too weak to support a triple
    This section has many overmapped triples in its entirety :(

Kagerou

  1. 00:03:328 (2,3) - Would be ideal if these had proper spacing. placing (2) on its one close to (1)'s slider end would make the transition more interesting
  2. 00:06:610 (1,2) - This kinda contradicts what you went for in the last similar pattern where (1) was on its own and then 00:06:922 (2,3,4) - the three following sliders were mapped to express a similar motion. Even though its okay to go for a different motion, but the spacing between of (1) -> (2) could be more reminiscent of 00:01:610 (1,2) -
  3. 00:10:985 (4,5,6,7) - I feel like this should be 2 1/2 sliders instead to retain consistency with 00:13:485 (5,6) - and offer some resting point so this jumps sequence is a bit tamer
  4. 00:23:172 (2) - Seems too cluttered to have a circle on a sliderend of a slider that doesnt have as much of a sliderbody
  5. 00:28:172 (2,3) - First time that you went for the spacing increase on the snares, and it really showed here when thinking about the previous sets of 2 circles that werent really differentiated about whether they were landing on snares or or not. This whole concept should be adjusted imo
  6. 00:54:110 (1) - Sliderend is considerably stronger than sliderhead, adjust this to improve the whole impact of the section
  7. 01:12:078 (4,5,6) - This is overmapped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  8. 01:17:860 (1,2,3) - Really weak spacing considering the whole intensity of the section here. Really expected some more movement to bring out the vocals here
  9. 01:22:860 (1) - Rhythmically this would play better as 1/2 reverse cause of the guitar note in the red tick which particularly stands out
  10. 01:30:672 (1) - Unnecessary NC imo here, the previous NC was enough to express the section change

You literally added a diff as i modded this, this hurts, ill come back to mod the rest when the set is finished
Shunao

Nokashi wrote:

Shunao's Hard

  1. 00:19:110 (1,2,3) - Comparatively this is bit cluttered visually, should be given more spacing for the added movement, much like other patterns it's understandable imo
  2. 01:03:797 (4,5) - Imo this could work better as a slider to better express the hold. Instead 01:04:110 (1,2) - these 2 are an optimal place for circles instead of sliders. Either both or one of them I'm not going to fix this because since 01:04:110 (1,2) - are pretty similar i want to emphasize them with 2 similar 1/2 sliders they fits with the rhythm and they are easy to play. Circles means that players should be click on all same vocals who can be more complicated imo because 4 circles to click without break after that is just uhhh for fingers lul so no thanks, i'm not packed by this idea :v
weeee clean i know :>

You literally added a diff as i modded this, this hurts, ill come back to mod the rest when the set is finished
Thanks for modding!
Topic Starter
Nevo
@nokashi
Applied all expect two things I'll add them later when I come back home
Realazy
wow a v1 map

[Nao's Normal]

00:52:860 (1) - ngl that repeat at the end just feels forced and confusing in a lower diff, just keep the shape nice and simple id say

[Shunao's Hard]

00:39:578 (2,3,4) - space these out to be consistent visually due to auto stacking
01:35:985 (3) - having a 1/1 slider here would give more emphasis to the 1/2 synth on 01:36:610 (1,2,3) - imo

[Shira's Insane]

00:08:953 (4,1) - i would probably stack those instead of 00:09:422 (2,3) - because 4 and 1 sound much closer together than 1 and 2/3
00:58:328 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - these jumps don't sound any less intense than 00:57:860 (1,2) - yet their spacing is MUCH smaller. i don't mind the variable spacing, but it would be nice to buff these jumps a bit so they look more in line with the previous one

[Armin's Extra]

e: gonna add some thoughts

really not a fan of this diff, the spacing usage isn't really well managed at all: everything looks the same, no matter the intensity of the part, and there's no way to contrast the varying intensity of the song with how you currently mapped it. everything also feels just so forced, spacing feels way too high in places where it shouldn't be as high. (notably at 00:40:360 -) besides, if movement and angles used were varied enough it wouldn't be such a huge issue, but everything is just the same sharp angles and comfortable flow which ends up really boring in gameplay. i would really like to see more effort put in actually expressing the song through spacing and movement in general rather than keeping it consistent for the entirety of the map

00:06:922 (1,2,3,4) - not really sure as to why these aren't following the linear back and forths like the entirety of the intro, i don't see a reason to switch here
00:10:360 (2) - a NC here would introduce the new section of the song much better
00:19:110 (1,2,3,4) - disagree with the spacing being so large here, the guitar is getting quieter and its pitch lowers, so i don't see why the spacing should go up here
01:01:453 (4,4,5,6) - might wanna stack manually here, i assume this is unintentional since you usually do it
01:06:297 (5,6) - would've been nice to use similar movement as 01:05:985 (3,4) - to represent the very similar vocals
01:19:110 (1,2,3,4,5) - this feels severely overdone considering the intensity of the song goes down greatly here, all the instruments are much quieter, even vocals. so if anything, this should have lower spacing than most of the kiai

[Kagerou]

00:20:047 (4) - should add a reverse here to map all guitar notes since you missed one at 00:20:255 -
00:47:860 (1,2,3,4) - i think you should lower this spacing here, it's higher than the spacing used at 00:50:360 - even though that next section is more intense due to drums getting louder and denser
01:09:891 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - gradually increasing spacing would've been super cool here

@nokashi all those triples you mentioned aren't overmapped, they're all present in the music. those in the kiai are kick triples so they feel a bit more faint but they're there, and fit decently. those outside of the kiai are guitar triples
Topic Starter
Nevo

Realazy wrote:

wow a v1 map

[Kagerou]

00:20:047 (4) - should add a reverse here to map all guitar notes since you missed one at 00:20:255 - oki
00:47:860 (1,2,3,4) - i think you should lower this spacing here, it's higher than the spacing used at 00:50:360 - even though that next section is more intense due to drums getting louder and denser oki
01:09:891 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - gradually increasing spacing would've been super cool here tbh i like having the same spacing throughout I feel it plays better and fits the style of the map and stuf

@nokashi all those triples you mentioned aren't overmapped, they're all present in the music. those in the kiai are kick triples so they feel a bit more faint but they're there, and fit decently. those outside of the kiai are guitar triples
Pachiru
🐦
Shunao

Realazy wrote:

wow a v1 map

[Shunao's Hard]

00:39:578 (2,3,4) - space these out to be consistent visually due to auto stacking okay
01:35:985 (3) - having a 1/1 slider here would give more emphasis to the 1/2 synth on 01:36:610 (1,2,3) - imo yup and plus is consistent xd
Thaanks!

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A r M i N

Nokashi wrote:

Armin's Extra

  1. 00:01:922 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - These are bit too cluttered at the moment, feels like this diff used to have a different CS value, and the size cluttered these placements a lot CS wasn't changed and this close spacing is intentional since the part is pretty calm
  2. 00:07:234 (3,4) - Same here, these could be spread more to the left, along with 00:07:547 (5) - ^
  3. 00:21:297 (6,7) - Even though i can justify this jump cause of the guitar here, 00:21:922 (2,3) - this jump is unnecessarily large and shoyld be adjusted to something tamer High Pitch guitar sounds are clearly audible
  4. 00:28:797 (3,4) - Spacing wise these should be consistent with 00:27:547 (3,4) - as they are supported on rather similar sounds I don't see why I should keep such consistency over so minor stuff. Its good to get some variety sometimes xd
  5. 00:42:235 (4,5,6,7) - This is a bit too overspaced for the current section which is rather tame in terms of intensity Here I tried to express the gradually increasing pitch of the singer with inscreasing spacing
  6. 00:44:735 (4,5,6,7) - Also this could be mapped in a more gradual manner to express the vocals instead of downright spiking spacing from the beginning ^
  7. 01:04:578 (4,5,6) - This triple is overmapped I can hear a quiet sound
  8. 01:09:735 (3,4) - Somewhat of a weak jump considering the intesity of this section When using CS3 there just isn't that much freedom so I basically had to put it there, anything else wouldn't have looked as nice ^^
  9. 01:12:078 (4,5,6) - This is also overmapped Quiet sound for me, but still present
  10. 01:17:078 (3,4,5) - This is also overmapped ^
  11. 01:23:797 (6,7,1) - Also overmapped ^
  12. 01:21:297 (6,7,8) - I can faintly hear something here, but its too weak to support a triple Consistency with 01:28:875 - 01:26:375 - 01:21:375 - 01:23:875 -
    This section has many overmapped triples in its entirety :(
I'm sorry dude.. but thanks anyways for modding <3

Realazy wrote:

wow a v1 map

[Armin's Extra]

e: gonna add some thoughts

really not a fan of this diff, the spacing usage isn't really well managed at all: everything looks the same, no matter the intensity of the part, and there's no way to contrast the varying intensity of the song with how you currently mapped it. everything also feels just so forced, spacing feels way too high in places where it shouldn't be as high. (notably at 00:40:360 -) besides, if movement and angles used were varied enough it wouldn't be such a huge issue, but everything is just the same sharp angles and comfortable flow which ends up really boring in gameplay. i would really like to see more effort put in actually expressing the song through spacing and movement in general rather than keeping it consistent for the entirety of the map
Hmm first of all 00:40:360 - has a finish on it so there is no problem with spacing it more. I use low spacing for calm parts and high spacing with lots of circles in the kiai.. I don't see whats wrong with that. Yes, you are right, only sharp angles. But that's what I enjoy doing and playing. With Anime style songs I associate comfortable flow and angles, so why not use it here aswell. I am not the type of mapper to use uncommon flow or patterns since I am not experienced in that field so I rather keep doing what I am comfortable in.

00:06:922 (1,2,3,4) - not really sure as to why these aren't following the linear back and forths like the entirety of the intro, i don't see a reason to switch here I wanted to get some variety in the beginning part but you're right
00:10:360 (2) - a NC here would introduce the new section of the song much better sure
00:19:110 (1,2,3,4) - disagree with the spacing being so large here, the guitar is getting quieter and its pitch lowers, so i don't see why the spacing should go up here ok, decreased
01:01:453 (4,4,5,6) - might wanna stack manually here, i assume this is unintentional since you usually do it okay
01:06:297 (5,6) - would've been nice to use similar movement as 01:05:985 (3,4) - to represent the very similar vocals hmm I think its fine like that xd
01:19:110 (1,2,3,4,5) - this feels severely overdone considering the intensity of the song goes down greatly here, all the instruments are much quieter, even vocals. so if anything, this should have lower spacing than most of the kiai I interpret this differently, since the music has a bass drum on every object so imo that increases the intensity, also it's in the end of the kiai so having a intense jump at the end is common

@nokashi all those triples you mentioned aren't overmapped, they're all present in the music. those in the kiai are kick triples so they feel a bit more faint but they're there, and fit decently. those outside of the kiai are guitar triples
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Topic Starter
Nevo
It's anime

nao applied
Doesnt matter
>Cutting this song
A B S O L U T E L Y D I S G U S T I N G
Topic Starter
Nevo

ChuuritsuTv wrote:

>Cutting this song
A B S O L U T E L Y D I S G U S T I N G
i intend to map the full version and i mapped the whole project in a compilation so like shrug
Shunao
Shira

Realazy wrote:

[Shira's Insane]

00:08:953 (4,1) - i would probably stack those instead of 00:09:422 (2,3) - because 4 and 1 sound much closer together than 1 and 2/3 nah but changed it to back and forth to show the difference in pitch
00:58:328 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - these jumps don't sound any less intense than 00:57:860 (1,2) - yet their spacing is MUCH smaller. i don't mind the variable spacing, but it would be nice to buff these jumps a bit so they look more in line with the previous one yup
ty~

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TitleUnicode:カゲロウデイズ
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A r M i N wrote:

Hmm first of all 00:40:360 - has a finish on it so there is no problem with spacing it more. I use low spacing for calm parts and high spacing with lots of circles in the kiai.. I don't see whats wrong with that. Yes, you are right, only sharp angles. But that's what I enjoy doing and playing. With Anime style songs I associate comfortable flow and angles, so why not use it here aswell. I am not the type of mapper to use uncommon flow or patterns since I am not experienced in that field so I rather keep doing what I am comfortable in.

i meant the overall section, not that one slider in particular. the problem is that the spacing difference between the chorus and the rest of the map is really faint, the changes in spacing are barely visible

especially when the intro is just as spaced if not more spaced than the verse, same for the density of the part itself: 00:10:360 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - (and the rest of that section) has much longer chains of 1/2 going on than in the kiai, which is barely denser if it wasn't for the occasional triples. the spacing doesn't change much either. the calmest part of the map at 40 seconds still has large jumps such as 00:42:078 (3,4,5,6,7) - 00:44:735 (4,5,6,7) - and dense chains of circles like 00:54:110 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - which are even longer than what you'd find in the kiai in terms of 1/2

even the part after the kiai, which should have much lower intensity considering it's much quieter also has fairly large patterns that don't help with emphasizing the kiai as the most intense part of the map, patterns like 01:27:860 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 01:38:797 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - are just as spaced as what you'd find in the kiai despite all of the instruments sounding much calmer.

overall spacing and density in the kiai is okay, but everything around it feels equal if not similar, and the slightly higher spacing you used in the kiai isn't enough to represent that, so nerfing the non-kiai parts would be the best solution to that problem imo, by replacing some of those circle chains with sliders, or nerfing spacing in those sections, especially the calm part before the kiai


01:19:110 (1,2,3,4,5) - this feels severely overdone considering the intensity of the song goes down greatly here, all the instruments are much quieter, even vocals. so if anything, this should have lower spacing than most of the kiai I interpret this differently, since the music has a bass drum on every object so imo that increases the intensity, also it's in the end of the kiai so having a intense jump at the end is common

it's not about doing what's common, it's about respecting the song... the song's overall intensity clearly goes down here, even if it has those bass drums, so it makes very little sense to have higher spacing than the rest of the kiai where the main instruments are much more prominent, the snares/rides actually stop playing here, the guitar is playing shorter, lower pitched notes, and even the singer's voice gets quieter because of that, even if the pitch is slightly higher here, which all clearly hint that the song becomes softer here, and it should be shown through lower spacing, or lower intensity here
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