CHiCO with HoneyWorks - Wolf · forum

Irohas

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Irohas 2016-11-17T16:51:44+00:00

-Nya- wrote:
Hey~ For M4M.
I haven't modded for quite some time so please pardon if the mod looks bad.

General:
It would be nice if the BG’s quality can be topnotch. But it’s not too bad I guess. Just a bit pixelly. I'll see if I can arrange that

Hard:
00:12:690 (3,4,5) –This current placement makes flow a bit weird. Rather try something like this instead:
Picture
mmh, it looks good to me, I think I'll keep
00:40:953 –Place a circle here or map it out since there’s clearly a vocal. Right now it feels a bit empty and mapping it out will be better imo. but I followed drums just before, so I think it's fine if I skip the vocal
00:43:321 (6) –Perhaps this?
Picture
Looks neater imo. okay
01:17:111 (3,2) –This overlap looks a bit meh. Perhaps rather try something like this:
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Plus the flow will also be improved imo. overlap looks good to me ):
01:26:426 (5) –You can add new combo here to emphasize that strong cymbal. okay

Normal:
00:04:953 (4,5,6,1) –Imo stacks are a bit too hard for a Normal, so I usually unstack them and place them like this:
Picture
This goes for all similar situations. I think it's as hard as I made
00:55:479 (4,5,1) –This pattern looks a bit crammed and crowded because of the hump of the slider that goes inward. Rather something like this:
Picture
I'll see if it really bother with more opinons
01:26:426 (6) –New combo? okay

Easy:
00:44:900 (3) –This is just a general warning, since I remember Bakari pointing this out to me as well. Be careful not to hide the tail of the slider too much especially in an Easy since it’s hard to see the path of the slider then and it may confuse beginner players. I don’t think this slider will be a problem but it’s close. okay applied
01:22:637 (2) –I can hear a cymbal in the background of the music. I suggest placing a finish on the head of the slider to emphasize that. okay
01:25:163 (2) –Hmm, the tail is overlapping the body of the slider and that may be a problem.. not sure, lol. changed a bit if ever
Nice diff. Nothing else to point out.

Overall this is a really nice set and almost ready for rank imo. Good Luck~!

thanks!
+updated kanto and pkhg's diffs

Janpai

1,288 posts

Joined March 2015

Janpai 2016-11-19T01:31:12+00:00

-Nya- wrote:
Janpai's Insane:
I suggest lowering the OD cause right now it’s higher than the hardest diff in the set (perhaps talk to Kanto about this). And also cause I think it’s too high for an Insane. bumped to 7.5
00:13:321 (1) –Also add a finish hitsound on the head of this slider. Kanto and Sotarks did it. sure
00:40:163 (2) –There’s a cymbal sound in the background so it will be better to place a finish on the head to emphasize that. okay
01:16:045 (2) –I also mentioned this to Kanto. The vocal starts 01:16:045 – and not here 01:16:005 – Change the beat snap divisor to 1/8 and listen at 25% to hear it. This might be tricky to play but applied. When someone will point this out, I will revert it back to the 1/4 snap since there's not so much difference between them

thank you so much!

mou aitakunai yo

osu file format v14

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Artist:CHiCO with HoneyWorks
ArtistUnicode:CHiCO with HoneyWorks
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Kuron-kun

Kuron-kun 2016-11-26T12:57:09+00:00

Hey! M4M.

bold = highly recommended
red = unrankable

General

If you have a higher resolution available of this background it would be nice to add it there, since 1920x1200 BGs are now accepted.

Easy

You have a lot of inherited points in this diff and they're pretty much useless. You're using them on sliderticks but there's no selected sample to use it there. Consider removing them if you aren't going to use in the future.

00:09:058 (2) - Don't you want to make this slider two clickable circles instead? The song is getting pretty strong there, would be a nice spot to do it. Plus, ending sliders on strong beats isn't a really good thing, specially if you have the change to make it clickable, where you do here.

01:08:900 (1) - This is the only slider on this section you didn't use to emphasize the vocal, and you emphasized the rest really well. Would be really bad to change the consistency. Wouldn't you prefer to do something like this?

Normal
00:58:637 - The "kokoro" is really strong there and you left the beat/vocal empty. Wouldn't it be better to add a circle there? Or you can move the next slider to the red tick and add a circle after it, like this.

Hard
00:39:058 (2) - I feel like a Ctrl + G here would flow better. Plus, would add a jump between this slider and the next one, emphasizing the stronger beat on the next slider's end.

00:55:479 (3) - This slider's end is where the guitar starts and by leaving it on the slider's end would feel a bit inconsistent and bad to follow. Would be a nice idea to make something like you did with the same guitar sound on the beginning by adding a repeat slider exactly where the sound starts. If you feel it wouldn't be a good a idea, placing a slider where the guitar sound starts exactly like this would be a great idea too.

pkhg's Insane
00:50:584 (3,4) - It would be a nice idea to add a NC on (3) to indicate changes of rhythm. Could be kinda confusing to some players.

00:52:163 - Aw, I probably see what you tried to do here but leaving these empty isn't really a good ideia. It's inconsistent since you were following every sound on the song. Same would apply for the next blank white tick.

01:05:900 (6,7,8,9) - Isn't the normal samples a bit too... loud here, considering the rest of the song? Try adding an inherited point with lower volume. Feels much better to play, hear and to follow.

Janpai's Insane
00:50:584 (5,6) - Consider adding a NC on (5) due to the change of rhythm and spacing. You haven't using any 1/4 sliders so some players could think they're acutally 1/4 sliders, so New Combos would indicate a change of rhythm.

01:04:953 (1) - The flow between this slider and the previous notes doesn't feel really good. The circles are all going to a right flow but then this slider shows up with a left flow and makes it awkward to follow. You can either move the slider to the right or it's beginning to fix it. Would feel muuuuch better.

Sotarks' Expert
00:06:690 (5,6) - Considering that you only did these with that high spacing when the song was about 1/4 strong triplets, this might feel unnecessary. The song isn't strong enough to add this spacing between them. Why don't you try a 1/4 repeat slider instead? Or you can decrease the spacing between them. Your choice!

01:08:742 (6,1) - Since you were adding a long slider every time the vocal got emphasized would be nice to do it here as well, for consistency reasons (plus, it's really cool)! A nice solution to this would be deleting (6), moving (1) to (6)'s place and Ctrl + G it. Then you just add a circle on the next tick.

I am in love with the flow you did on this diff.

Kanto's Memories
00:51:216 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - These squares are starting with a high spacing and ending with a lower spacing, but as I can hear through the song it is increasing its emphasis, not decreasing it. Wouldn't you prefer to start with lower-spaced squares and end with high-spaced instead? Would make much more sense!

00:55:637 (2) - Since the guitar's sound starts here you should add a 1/4 slider here as well, so it would be consistent with the next two.

01:08:742 (8,1) - You were adding sliders on the red tick to emphasize the vocal on this kiai, but you didn't do it here. Consider adding this slider on the red tick instead of white tick. Emphasizing the vocal is really cool there!

Really cool mapset!

Irohas

1,353 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Irohas 2016-11-26T17:53:35+00:00

Kuron-kun wrote:
Hey! M4M.

bold = highly recommended
red = unrankable

General
If you have a higher resolution available of this background it would be nice to add it there, since 1920x1200 BGs are now accepted. I'll consider
Easy
You have a lot of inherited points in this diff and they're pretty much useless. You're using them on sliderticks but there's no selected sample to use it there. Consider removing them if you aren't going to use in the future.
00:09:058 (2) - Don't you want to make this slider two clickable circles instead? The song is getting pretty strong there, would be a nice spot to do it. Plus, ending sliders on strong beats isn't a really good thing, specially if you have the change to make it clickable, where you do here. slider is better than circles for beginners imo

01:08:900 (1) - This is the only slider on this section you didn't use to emphasize the vocal, and you emphasized the rest really well. Would be really bad to change the consistency. Wouldn't you prefer to do something like this? consistency with 01:03:216 (4,1) -

Normal
00:58:637 - The "kokoro" is really strong there and you left the beat/vocal empty. Wouldn't it be better to add a circle there? Or you can move the next slider to the red tick and add a circle after it, like this. there's a sound that I don't want to skip on the downbeat but since you're not the one who tell me that, I keep in mind

Hard
00:39:058 (2) - I feel like a Ctrl + G here would flow better. Plus, would add a jump between this slider and the next one, emphasizing the stronger beat on the next slider's end. it's not really a bad flow imo

00:55:479 (3) - This slider's end is where the guitar starts and by leaving it on the slider's end would feel a bit inconsistent and bad to follow. Would be a nice idea to make something like you did with the same guitar sound on the beginning by adding a repeat slider exactly where the sound starts. If you feel it wouldn't be a good a idea, placing a slider where the guitar sound starts exactly like this would be a great idea too. both suits too imo, I just wanted to emphasize this loud finish sound

Really cool mapset!

thanks!

Janpai

1,288 posts

Joined March 2015

Janpai 2016-11-27T00:34:21+00:00

Kuron-kun wrote:
Janpai's Insane
00:50:584 (5,6) - Consider adding a NC on (5) due to the change of rhythm and spacing. You haven't using any 1/4 sliders so some players could think they're acutally 1/4 sliders, so New Combos would indicate a change of rhythm. actually it's 1/3 not 1/4 but fixed

01:04:953 (1) - The flow between this slider and the previous notes doesn't feel really good. The circles are all going to a right flow but then this slider shows up with a left flow and makes it awkward to follow. You can either move the slider to the right or it's beginning to fix it. Would feel muuuuch better. will see for more opinions xD

thank you!

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pkhg

2,507 posts

Joined May 2010

pkhg 2016-11-27T07:06:36+00:00

Kuron-kun wrote:
pkhg's Insane
00:50:584 (3,4) - It would be a nice idea to add a NC on (3) to indicate changes of rhythm. Could be kinda confusing to some players. no

00:52:163 - Aw, I probably see what you tried to do here but leaving these empty isn't really a good ideia. It's inconsistent since you were following every sound on the song. Same would apply for the next blank white tick. no

01:05:900 (6,7,8,9) - Isn't the normal samples a bit too... loud here, considering the rest of the song? Try adding an inherited point with lower volume. Feels much better to play, hear and to follow. no

no

Iceskulls

1,612 posts

Joined February 2012

Iceskulls 2016-12-01T15:59:12+00:00

[easy]

00:57:374 (3,4) - little spacing inconsistent

[normal]

00:00:690 (1) - finish
00:07:953 (4,1) - try to make them looks symmetry for aesthetic ?
00:13:005 (6,1) - spacing inconsistent , should be 1.1x
00:35:742 (6,1) - same
00:41:111 (1) - having the sliderend for the emphasized snare here make the rhythm sound weird imo , try something like this ? I think it will emphasis the instrument here better
SPOILER
00:43:637 (1) - same
00:43:005 (7) - also weird rhythm for me , i don't think the red tick there need to be mapped in the this diff somehow , a simple 1/1 slider here make this feel a bit go with the rhythm around it better
00:44:900 (3) - same ^
00:45:847 (5,1) - spacing inconsistent , should be 1.1x
01:17:111 (2,3) - same e
00:57:847 (4,5) - very weird switch here imo , here 00:57:374 (3,4) - you start switching back to instrument and then suddenly here 00:58:321 - you map to the vocal so I was expecting the beat to be here 00:58:637 - too since it's also a vocal but it's not so that make it feel weird , would be better to just use 1/1 slider on 00:58:163 (5) - to stick to instrument here and not switch to vocal suddenly like that to make rhythm feel more smooth
01:08:268 (5) - similiar ^

feeling pretty weird with most of the 1/2 slider you use in this diff they kinda make the rhythm sound random cus of the mixed in the rhythm switching here imo , it better to just try to simplify a rhythm here more to make the all the rhythm feel like they are belong to each other , tbh some 1/2 doesn't really need to be mapped here lol imo well like example 00:26:742 (3) - i know you want to emphasis the guitar there but mix this wiith how you map the 1/1 here so simple is just just feel off , simplify it to this http://puu.sh/syooD/8c0fbc5fe4.jpg will surely make the each rhythm here feel smooth like they are belong to each other or something idk how to explain x:

[hard]

00:09:374 (1) - can be extended to blue tick , i think that will help emphasis 00:10:163 (1) - better and make rhythm sound better
00:20:111 (3) - using this near something that looks the same (00:20:426 (4) - ) can make player a bit confused when playing this cus they will have a hard time to figure out when the slider with end , a triplet instead for 00:20:111 (3) - would be fine imo
00:50:584 (3,4) - I think this suppose to be 1/6 , the others also use 1/6 tho

[pkhg]

00:21:847 (4) - can move to around x320 y32 to make the aesthetic of the pattern here 00:21:216 (2,3,4) - looks better
00:24:216 (4) - i think ctlr+g would make the flow here a bit better and help emphasis the change of pitch of the vocal too

[janpai]

00:01:795 (3) - you can nc this to try to distinguish the 1/1 spacing here from the previous 1/2 , that will make this a bit easier to read and it sound like the new vocal line tho
00:10:637 (1,1) - try to adjust them a bit so both tail and head are stacked better for aesthetic ?
00:41:584 (4,5,6) - imo i think move this to around x348 y200 would improve the angle flow here 00:41:426 (3,4,5,6) - a bit
00:43:795 (2,3) - would better to try to make spacing here consistent with 00:41:268 (2,3) - they sound same to each other , you can move (2) to around x80 y148
00:45:058 (2,3) - kinda weird flow here cus how (2) play here and with the rhythm there it make it looks like (2) will flow directly to (2) but it's not so maybe i think it would be better to try to make (2) flow to (3) directly instead that would make flow a bit bettter here imo , try move 3 to around x279 y269 ? or like try something like this for patter lol ( just my preference tho )
SPOILER
01:09:532 (4) - can move to around x488 y240 imo for better aesthetic
01:14:268 - pretty weird to see that this is the only snare that get skipped here , it malke the rhythm a bit inconsistent so would be better to try to map that snare to make thing more consistent , you can try this rhythm
SPOILER
01:16:005 (2) - shouldn't this vocal snap to 1/2 ?

[sotarks]

00:06:690 (5,6) - play a bit weird here somehow this rhythm just feel like it come so suddenly , this kind of rhythm in the music occur here 00:02:900 (5) - but that one you use 1/2 there so why change the rhythm here 00:06:690 (5,6) - so suddenly , it kinda make the rhythm feel off imo , a 1/2 slider would be ok now
00:13:321 (1,2,3) - this pattern idea is a bit inconsistent with 00:10:637 (1,2,3) - and maybe this too 00:18:374 (1,2,3) - , was expected the spacing for (3) to be a bit bigger cus the guitar sound pretty strong here tho lol so perheps maybe you can move 3 to around x172 y56
00:17:268 (2,3) - similiar to above , maybe move 3 to around x388 y136 ? or adjust pattern to your preference lol if you decide to fix
00:43:953 (3) - pretty surprised here imo , 00:41:111 (1,2,1,2,3) - right here you didn't add the note on white tick which is vocal but then you add it here 00:43:953 - which is also vocal if the rhythm in music same i think the rhythm you try to make should be the same too the inconsistent there will just make it feel awkward imo
01:24:532 (1) - i think it better to not nc here to stay consistent with the similiar rhythm and pattern here 01:22:637 (1,2,3) - where you don't nc the slider but nc the circle after that instead

[kanto]

00:04:479 (1,2) - this sound similiar to 00:03:216 (1,2) - so try to make the pattern here similiar too ? would make thing feel a bit more consistent and make thing play more smooth
00:19:479 (1) - can use higher spacing imo cus the cymbal at 1 there sound really strong there so higher spacing should help emphasis it better , try to move 1 to around x212 y152 ?
00:41:268 (2,3,4,5) - 00:43:795 (2,3) - those two pattern are a bit inconsistent to each others , one use stack another one doesn't ,I think make them consistent a bit which will help make the flow better
01:03:532 (6,7) - a bit weird to see the spaing here so high , 7 doesn't sound that strong so it sound weird to use high spacing on that imo so would be better to decrease spacing a bit here , try move 7 to around x157 y232 ?

good luck

Irohas

1,353 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Irohas 2016-12-01T17:07:39+00:00

CelsiusLK wrote:
[easy]
00:57:374 (3,4) - little spacing inconsistent okay
[normal]
00:00:690 (1) - finish okay
00:07:953 (4,1) - try to make them looks symmetry for aesthetic ? both suits, I keep for preferance
00:13:005 (6,1) - spacing inconsistent , should be 1.1x fixed
00:35:742 (6,1) - same ^
00:41:111 (1) - having the sliderend for the emphasized snare here make the rhythm sound weird imo , try something like this ? I think it will emphasis the instrument here better
SPOILER
I think it's fine, cause here we have 2 loud sounds at 00:41:268 - and 00:41:111 - and it fits correctly imo. Also I think this flow is more "accessible" for beginners
00:43:637 (1) - same ^
00:43:005 (7) - also weird rhythm for me , i don't think the red tick there need to be mapped in the this diff somehow , a simple 1/1 slider here make this feel a bit go with the rhythm around it better okay sure
00:44:900 (3) - same ^ we clearly hear a sound on the red here
00:45:847 (5,1) - spacing inconsistent , should be 1.1x fixed
01:17:111 (2,3) - same e ^
00:57:847 (4,5) - very weird switch here imo , here 00:57:374 (3,4) - you start switching back to instrument and then suddenly here 00:58:321 - you map to the vocal so I was expecting the beat to be here 00:58:637 - too since it's also a vocal but it's not so that make it feel weird , would be better to just use 1/1 slider on 00:58:163 (5) - to stick to instrument here and not switch to vocal suddenly like that to make rhythm feel more smooth after 5 or more suggestions about this I think I should fix that lol
01:08:268 (5) - similiar ^ I think here it's fine, and I didn't follow the vocal but rather drums that's why these 1/2 reverse

feeling pretty weird with most of the 1/2 slider you use in this diff they kinda make the rhythm sound random cus of the mixed in the rhythm switching here imo , it better to just try to simplify a rhythm here more to make the all the rhythm feel like they are belong to each other , tbh some 1/2 doesn't really need to be mapped here lol imo well like example 00:26:742 (3) - i know you want to emphasis the guitar there but mix this wiith how you map the 1/1 here so simple is just just feel off , simplify it to this http://puu.sh/syooD/8c0fbc5fe4.jpg will surely make the each rhythm here feel smooth like they are belong to each other or something idk how to explain x: I emphasized those because I used 1/2 at 00:27:847 (5,6) - for the same reasons, so It's better to keep for consistency
[hard]
00:09:374 (1) - can be extended to blue tick , i think that will help emphasis 00:10:163 (1) - better and make rhythm sound better okay
00:20:111 (3) - using this near something that looks the same (00:20:426 (4) - ) can make player a bit confused when playing this cus they will have a hard time to figure out when the slider with end , a triplet instead for 00:20:111 (3) - would be fine imo triplets I don't really want to make a triplet cause it'll surely be too hard to me, and I think spacing 00:19:953 (2,3) - and 00:20:426 (4,1) - will notice the player that they will not be the same lol
00:50:584 (3,4) - I think this suppose to be 1/6 , the others also use 1/6 tho sure
good luck

thanks!

pkhg

2,507 posts

Joined May 2010

pkhg 2016-12-02T06:45:31+00:00

all done

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KantoKun

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KantoKun 2016-12-06T13:20:06+00:00

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Ujimatsu Chiya

2,480 posts

Joined December 2013

Ujimatsu Chiya 2016-12-09T06:40:58+00:00

Kanto, I can't stop playing yours
cool work xD

Irohas

1,353 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Irohas 2016-12-09T14:14:06+00:00

eINess wrote:
Kanto, I can't stop playing yours
cool work xD

same

KantoKun

1,114 posts

Joined December 2011

KantoKun 2016-12-10T22:44:07+00:00

eINess wrote:
Kanto, I can't stop playing yours
cool work xD

wow , thanks so much XD

Janpai

1,288 posts

Joined March 2015

Janpai 2016-12-11T03:14:12+00:00

CelsiusLK wrote:
[janpai]
00:01:795 (3) - you can nc this to try to distinguish the 1/1 spacing here from the previous 1/2 , that will make this a bit easier to read and it sound like the new vocal line tho I think the spacing did the thing here so no need for NC
00:10:637 (1,1) - try to adjust them a bit so both tail and head are stacked better for aesthetic ? it's hard though I tried but I can't xD
00:41:584 (4,5,6) - imo i think move this to around x348 y200 would improve the angle flow here 00:41:426 (3,4,5,6) - a bit sure
00:43:795 (2,3) - would better to try to make spacing here consistent with 00:41:268 (2,3) - they sound same to each other , you can move (2) to around x80 y148 okay
00:45:058 (2,3) - kinda weird flow here cus how (2) play here and with the rhythm there it make it looks like (2) will flow directly to (2) but it's not so maybe i think it would be better to try to make (2) flow to (3) directly instead that would make flow a bit bettter here imo , try move 3 to around x279 y269 ? or like try something like this for patter lol ( just my preference tho )
SPOILER
did sth on my own
01:09:532 (4) - can move to around x488 y240 imo for better aesthetic okay
01:14:268 - pretty weird to see that this is the only snare that get skipped here , it malke the rhythm a bit inconsistent so would be better to try to map that snare to make thing more consistent , you can try this rhythm
SPOILER
fixed
01:16:005 (2) - shouldn't this vocal snap to 1/2 ? yeah, Nya convince me to change this but well it is more easier to play on 1/2

thank you so much! and sorry for late reply xD too busy irl

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SkinnyJommy

788 posts

Joined January 2014

SkinnyJommy 2016-12-24T04:20:01+00:00

i like

iYiyo

1,107 posts

Joined January 2014

iYiyo 2017-01-12T17:42:16+00:00

c'mon, less good luck and more call me back >.<

don't take it seriously tho xd

Seijiro

osu! Alumni

3,438 posts

Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2017-01-17T10:12:42+00:00

5 mod project, from the past

General

why do you have storyboard hitsounds? You should really not use them. Just no
You should find an alternative rhythm if you can't use the one you used on the diffs above, you know...

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Kanto's Memories

00:03:216 (1,2,3,4) - the way you spaced these beats make it so that the strong beats on 1,2 become less important and kind of fade out into the map. Even just a stack between 3,4 can work, but the best option is surely to reduce spacing between 2 and 3, like this
00:05:742 (1,2) - please be consistent in your way to place 1/4 snaps after sliders. It's inconsistent with 00:04:795 (3,4,5) - so I can easily read that one as a 1/2 beat once I see it. (no, 00:05:426 (7,8,1) - the fact you did a different thing here is another matter, since this is different: it's circle + slider, while the other one is just a circle)
00:20:900 - well, I appreciate that you reduced SV from here on, but when I see spacings like 00:22:953 (3,4) - it's just no. If you do that you changed SV for nothing in the end. For proper expression you should also work with a smaller DS
00:26:347 (2) - I'd rather remove this beat, it feels heavily overmapped or in any case, it is not similar to 00:28:084 (6) - for sure.
If you DO delete that make sure to not leave 00:25:953 (1,3) - as they are, because they will be misleading (spacing is the same as 00:15:847 (1,2) - on the playfield for example), so add a bit more of spacing
00:37:637 (2,3,4) - go check 00:04:795 (3,4,5) -
00:41:111 - you missed again the slight change into overall emphasis of the song here. You should be reducing spacing and SV again. As it is now this part is way too similar to other parts where the rhythm was truly more intense
00:45:847 (4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - ok... it plays fine, but you're ignoring the song. You previously mapped the drum quite well, but in this section you seem to be following vocals too. That's totally fine, but the way you do it feels not so convincing, I mean, you keep circling ccw with the same angle (00:46:163 (1,2) - ) over and over for this section. Is that it all? You should put more thought in what you do imo, but that's up to you I guess =3=
00:53:742 (1,2,3,4) - this is way stronger than the other 2 squares so consider increasing spacing even more (twice as much as you think)
01:07:795 (2,3) - 3 is way stronger than 2 in the song (notice vocals and drum there) but you use the same spacing on both. What happens is that 3 loses emphasis thanks to the jump on 2 and that feels not so right to me. Maybe stack 2 where you have 01:07:163 (5) - but the whole pattern could receive a general cleaning imo (aka, more thinking and planning)
I lost the count of how many times I saw 01:18:374 (3,4,5) - this sort of angle and movement.
This sort of thing is like fast food: you can eat it anytime and it won't bore you that much since it's tasty, the problem is that it feels like recently I see only fast food around =w=
Where are my vegetables??? it's actually not a joke. Let's see if you get the reference :p

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Sotarks' Expert

heh... rhythm and emphasis are pretty good. I could just say that aesthehtic choices could have been better (stuff like 00:51:216 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - doesn't look so nice for me, but that's just personal)
Maybe make Kanto take a look at this to see how rhythm and emphasis of the song is done in a more appropriate way (above all the things I pointed out) :v

01:26:426 (1) - ah, maybe remove that whistle from there, it's a bit too noisy considering the ending =3= (some drum whistles are not the best choice imo but they work fine so it's not such a big problem)

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Janpai's Insane

00:01:795 (3,4) - maybe move these 2 a bit more to the right. The current spacing feels like the passage 2,3 is actually a 1/2. Reference
00:08:742 (2,3,4,5,1) - I checked many times to be sure and it looks like this diff too is lacking visual/aesthetic structure. Seriously guys, just because you know how to manage flow and rhythm well it doesn't mean you can throw objects to the screen =w= (this partly goes for Sotarks too)
00:22:005 (1,2,3) - similar spacing problem I mentioned in the first point of this mod. Using a bit more of DS between 2 and 3 would help to not create a "still" part
00:30:532 (4) - what do you think about a couple of circles instead? Something like this maybe
00:41:426 (3) - if you remove beats like this from this section it will feel more insane-ish, trust me. You're using too much note density here, the song is calm too
01:04:953 (1) - this shape triggers me every time tbh
00:51:216 (1,2,3,4) - just to point out one more reference regarding that comment on aesthetic structure. That tells me nothing =3=
01:10:005 (1,2,3,4) - I noticed that in this last part of the map you use one combo to follow well vocals, while the other starts on drums but overall it is dull because later on vocals come in play again and it feels like you ignore them (because you actually DO ignore them). Small change of life: 01:10:795 (3) - circles work better
01:13:321 (3) - kinda teh same ^, this time it is to better follow drums instead: circles instead

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pkhg's Insane

00:02:032 (2) - maybe remove the whistle from this, so you let the player hear the actual guitar sound behind it, otherwise it feels a bit random
00:10:321 (2,3) - minor flow improvement: ctrl + G ?
00:48:374 (4) - well, considering the vocals there it feels a bit strange to have a slider imo. Pattern reference
01:21:216 (6,7) - ah, this angle is really large so the emphasis on 6 is a bit poor. Maybe something like this might help a bit
if you slightly reduce 01:25:953 (4,5) - and slightly increase 01:26:268 (7,8) - spacing-wise, you create a better effect imo

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Hard

00:00:690 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - hitsounding here is a bit overdoing it. Those drum whistles are sort of a pain to hear so frequently.
00:02:584 - 00:03:532 - 00:04:163 - remove them all (they're all slider tails)
00:04:479 (1,3) - you could have worked a bit more here and made a better expression of the song by using circles imo. The other option would be to delete 00:04:795 (2,4) - and re-arrange the rest a bit
00:20:426 (4) - since you have also 00:20:111 (3) - nearby it might be strange to have two different lengths one near each other. Maybe use 2 circles on 4 first and then use the slider: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7080288
00:22:479 (4,5,6) - this rhythm feels quite intense for this part, not to mention it sorts of ignore vocals completely (which was the main instrument till now in this part). Suggestion
00:28:005 (5) - if you fix above make sure to delete this one too for consistency
00:32:584 (2) - maybe remove that clap from tail, it's pretty loud imo. Well, it's not that it doesn't fit into the music, but rather that it feels too much // 00:35:111 (2) - 00:37:637 (2) -
00:43:005 (5,6) - converting one of these into circles would help creating contrast with 00:43:637 (1) - . The way it is now it feels like 00:43:637 (1) - is a bit faded out in the rhythm. 00:41:111 (1) - this one felt way better thanks to the break before it (which created indeed contrast)
00:47:426 (5) - I guess you need to keep under control your hitsounding :p Once again it feels too much. Maybe remove whistles from repeat and tail
00:53:742 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - let's tackle down a few problems here:
00:53:742 (1,2,3) - I do understand you wanted to create more emphasis here by placing more beats, but 2 is not there at all, it just ruins the rhythm. Instead you should be trying out something like this, this way you make it consistent for all beats in the measure.
00:55:005 (1,2,3,4) - this one instead should create some contrast with what happened in the previous pattern. The easiest fix is turning 00:55:795 (4) - into circles, but you should also mind the visual pattern and the structure, which might increase expression by a lot if you work on it.
00:58:321 (4) - even your hitsounding is saying "here's an important beat", but you wasted it by placing a slider tail on the white tick. The best option here would be to convert 00:57:847 (2,3) - into a 1/1 slider and 00:58:321 (4) - into circles
00:57:847 (2) - btw, the drum whistle is not necessary here // 01:00:374 (2) - 01:02:900 (2) - 01:10:479 (2) - 01:13:005 (2) - 01:22:005 (2,3) -
After checking a second time I came to the conclusion that the drum clap should be a normal hitnormal too
01:03:216 (3,4) - holy, too loud. These are not necessary either, unless you want to totally cover the song and don't let me hear the song :p // 01:13:321 (3,4) - 01:18:374 (3,4) - 01:20:900 (3,4) - 01:23:426 (3,4) -
01:18:690 (5) - remove everything you got on this one and just place a normal hitnormal on the head // 01:21:216 (5) - same, but leave the clap you have on tail // 01:23:742 (5) -
01:24:532 (2) - normal hitnormal on tail
01:07:953 - heh... rhythm is again a little mess. Were you listening to the song properly? x)
You have a couple options here: option1 option2
Notice how the first white tick is using a slider in both, that's because that's a strong beat that you previously ignored via contrast: you had a circle on 01:07:953 - and a slider on 01:08:111 - . This last one is a weak beat and by using a slider on it you stole emphasis from both the previous and next white tick, that's why it didn't work so well
01:25:637 (2,3) - same sort of thing is happening here. The best rhythm is actually to ctrl + g these, like this

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Normal

00:27:847 (5,6) - you might consider do keep consistency by using a 1/1 slider instead to cover the drum beats you mapped till now
00:51:216 (1,2) - clean shapes but they look random tbh. Idk what theme might be good for this song, but try to think up one and fix shapes accordingly please
00:55:005 (3,4,5,1,2) - idk if you noticed the huge difference in note density between those 2 combos.
Converting 00:55:795 (5) - into a circle only and adding a circle at 00:56:742 - might fix this inconsistency but the pattern itself could be better for sure
01:00:690 (6,7) - if you follow vocals you shouldn't be overmapping those slider tails like that imo. Just circles is enough (hitsounding is also at blame here, holy those claps) // 01:05:742 (5,6) - 01:10:795 (6,7) -
copy hitsounds from the Hard once you fix it

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Easy

00:29:268 (2) - I really don't like how the white tick is ignored here. I know it's for the sake of simplifying the rhythm, but oh god. I'd rather have a 1/2 slider from 00:29:426 - instead, at lest it will follow rhythm better
00:29:268 (2,1) - and no, these overlaps are horrible for beginner diffs. Please avoid them

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Ok, generally speaking every diff, more or less, could really have a better visual structure.
I refer to how aesthetics (slider shapes, pattern shapes, slider art) should match across the map and not feel so random at times.
I would say "do not present slider arts if you're not good at them" but it is also true that unless you practice you can't make them properly, that's why you should sometimes take a song at random and try to experiment with this stuff, because as it is now it surely is not so "up to standards" (not for me at least)

References:
00:51:216 (1,2) - normal
00:00:690 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - hard
pkhg's diff doesn't have heavy points in which I can see any particular visual structure lack, but in general the map might gain more structure if you wanted
00:23:426 (1,2,3,1) - Janpai
00:08:900 (1,2,3,4) - Sotarks (+ what I mentioned in your mod)
00:01:953 (1,2,3,4) - Kanto

Irohas

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Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Irohas 2017-01-17T13:53:15+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
5 mod project, from the past

General

why do you have storyboard hitsounds? You should really not use them. Just no ok removed
You should find an alternative rhythm if you can't use the one you used on the diffs above, you know...

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Hard

00:00:690 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - hitsounding here is a bit overdoing it. Those drum whistles are sort of a pain to hear so frequently.
00:02:584 - 00:03:532 - 00:04:163 - remove them all (they're all slider tails) I don't think that is really overdoing, since we heard clearly whisltes sound behind
00:04:479 (1,3) - you could have worked a bit more here and made a better expression of the song by using circles imo. The other option would be to delete 00:04:795 (2,4) - and re-arrange the rest a bit I don't really want to use circles in this kind of "calm" part, I find that "overdoing" imo
00:20:426 (4) - since you have also 00:20:111 (3) - nearby it might be strange to have two different lengths one near each other. Maybe use 2 circles on 4 first and then use the slider: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7080288 okay
00:22:479 (4,5,6) - this rhythm feels quite intense for this part, not to mention it sorts of ignore vocals completely (which was the main instrument till now in this part). Suggestion okay
00:28:005 (5) - if you fix above make sure to delete this one too for consistency okay
00:32:584 (2) - maybe remove that clap from tail, it's pretty loud imo. Well, it's not that it doesn't fit into the music, but rather that it feels too much // 00:35:111 (2) - 00:37:637 (2) - okay sure
00:43:005 (5,6) - converting one of these into circles would help creating contrast with 00:43:637 (1) - . The way it is now it feels like 00:43:637 (1) - is a bit faded out in the rhythm. 00:41:111 (1) - this one felt way better thanks to the break before it (which created indeed contrast) a bit as 00:04:479 (1,3)
00:47:426 (5) - I guess you need to keep under control your hitsounding :p Once again it feels too much. Maybe remove whistles from repeat and tail okay
00:53:742 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - let's tackle down a few problems here:
00:53:742 (1,2,3) - I do understand you wanted to create more emphasis here by placing more beats, but 2 is not there at all, it just ruins the rhythm. Instead you should be trying out something like this, this way you make it consistent for all beats in the measure.
00:55:005 (1,2,3,4) - this one instead should create some contrast with what happened in the previous pattern. The easiest fix is turning 00:55:795 (4) - into circles, but you should also mind the visual pattern and the structure, which might increase expression by a lot if you work on it. actually, first of all I voluntary made a easier rhythm at 00:53:742 (1,2,3) - to emphasize better, the part from 00:55:005 (1,2,3,4) - cause I think the density of the song is not totally the same and deserves to have a more complicated rhythm, I hope you understand
00:58:321 (4) - even your hitsounding is saying "here's an important beat", but you wasted it by placing a slider tail on the white tick. The best option here would be to convert 00:57:847 (2,3) - into a 1/1 slider and 00:58:321 (4) - into circles okay sure
00:57:847 (2) - btw, the drum whistle is not necessary here // 01:00:374 (2) - 01:02:900 (2) - 01:10:479 (2) - 01:13:005 (2) - 01:22:005 (2,3) - there's whistles sounds D:
After checking a second time I came to the conclusion that the drum clap should be a normal hitnormal too
01:03:216 (3,4) - holy, too loud. These are not necessary either, unless you want to totally cover the song and don't let me hear the song :p // 01:13:321 (3,4) - 01:18:374 (3,4) - 01:20:900 (3,4) - 01:23:426 (3,4) - but there is clearly whistles sounds here D:
01:18:690 (5) - remove everything you got on this one and just place a normal hitnormal on the head // 01:21:216 (5) - same, but leave the clap you have on tail // 01:23:742 (5) - soft-hitclap would fit better
01:24:532 (2) - normal hitnormal on tail ^ but hitwhistle
01:07:953 - heh... rhythm is again a little mess. Were you listening to the song properly? x)
You have a couple options here: option1 option2
Notice how the first white tick is using a slider in both, that's because that's a strong beat that you previously ignored via contrast: you had a circle on 01:07:953 - and a slider on 01:08:111 - . This last one is a weak beat and by using a slider on it you stole emphasis from both the previous and next white tick, that's why it didn't work so well tried to follow vocals making a rhythm a bit as 01:06:374 (1,2,3,4) -, and I think both suits because we clearly heard vocals at 01:07:953 (2) -
01:25:637 (2,3) - same sort of thing is happening here. The best rhythm is actually to ctrl + g these, like this fixed this one

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Normal

00:27:847 (5,6) - you might consider do keep consistency by using a 1/1 slider instead to cover the drum beats you mapped till now okay
00:51:216 (1,2) - clean shapes but they look random tbh. Idk what theme might be good for this song, but try to think up one and fix shapes accordingly please did
00:55:005 (3,4,5,1,2) - idk if you noticed the huge difference in note density between those 2 combos.
Converting 00:55:795 (5) - into a circle only and adding a circle at 00:56:742 - might fix this inconsistency but the pattern itself could be better for sure sound at 00:55:953 - is too strong being skipped imo, I think my current rhythm is better
01:00:690 (6,7) - if you follow vocals you shouldn't be overmapping those slider tails like that imo. Just circles is enough (hitsounding is also at blame here, holy those claps) // 01:05:742 (5,6) - 01:10:795 (6,7) - b]i'm not following vocals here[/b]
copy hitsounds from the Hard once you fix it okay

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Easy

00:29:268 (2) - I really don't like how the white tick is ignored here. I know it's for the sake of simplifying the rhythm, but oh god. I'd rather have a 1/2 slider from 00:29:426 - instead, at lest it will follow rhythm better mmh, I don't really think, since the sound at 00:29:584 - is far more important than 00:29:742 -. Skip this sound would engender a kind of confusing and i guess, beginners should find that more readable and more fun to play.
00:29:268 (2,1) - and no, these overlaps are horrible for beginner diffs. Please avoid them only discussed with Chaoslitz about that, and no change

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Ok, generally speaking every diff, more or less, could really have a better visual structure.
I refer to how aesthetics (slider shapes, pattern shapes, slider art) should match across the map and not feel so random at times.
I would say "do not present slider arts if you're not good at them" but it is also true that unless you practice you can't make them properly, that's why you should sometimes take a song at random and try to experiment with this stuff, because as it is now it surely is not so "up to standards" (not for me at least)

References:
00:51:216 (1,2) - normal
00:00:690 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - hard
pkhg's diff doesn't have heavy points in which I can see any particular visual structure lack, but in general the map might gain more structure if you wanted
00:23:426 (1,2,3,1) - Janpai
00:08:900 (1,2,3,4) - Sotarks (+ what I mentioned in your mod)
00:01:953 (1,2,3,4) - Kanto

thanks Sergio!

Janpai

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Joined March 2015

Janpai 2017-01-20T10:37:07+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
Janpai's Insane

00:01:795 (3,4) - maybe move these 2 a bit more to the right. The current spacing feels like the passage 2,3 is actually a 1/2. Reference okay
00:08:742 (2,3,4,5,1) - I checked many times to be sure and it looks like this diff too is lacking visual/aesthetic structure. Seriously guys, just because you know how to manage flow and rhythm well it doesn't mean you can throw objects to the screen =w= (this partly goes for Sotarks too) Maybe you're right but this diff is mapped a long time ago and was supposed to be a bonus diff, for this section I think this is the best structure I can make unless you can suggest one which seems better than this and I'll try to improve stuffs
00:22:005 (1,2,3) - similar spacing problem I mentioned in the first point of this mod. Using a bit more of DS between 2 and 3 would help to not create a "still" part I don't understand what you mean here, these rhythms don't have 1/2 gap like the other one and it emphasizes the vocals there and I wanna maintain the shorter distance since it's calm
00:30:532 (4) - what do you think about a couple of circles instead? Something like this maybe yep, but did different on placement
00:41:426 (3) - if you remove beats like this from this section it will feel more insane-ish, trust me. You're using too much note density here, the song is calm too It's not like I don't place that for nothing, it;s for vocals and that's why it have smaller DS and also I think there's no problem since this is higher-tier insane
01:04:953 (1) - this shape triggers me every time tbh did sth, I'm really bad at shapes
00:51:216 (1,2,3,4) - just to point out one more reference regarding that comment on aesthetic structure. That tells me nothing =3= changed but idk if it'll satisfy you
01:10:005 (1,2,3,4) - I noticed that in this last part of the map you use one combo to follow well vocals, while the other starts on drums but overall it is dull because later on vocals come in play again and it feels like you ignore them (because you actually DO ignore them). Small change of life: 01:10:795 (3) - circles work better If you're pertaining to sections like 01:08:742 (7,1) - (well it's the only one) 1/1 slider would be really awkward for me because that piano sound being ignored would be a lot of triggered feeling so I better choose being snappy on this part cuz why not, vocals are strong enough to make it one. and yeah change to circle
01:13:321 (3) - kinda teh same ^, this time it is to better follow drums instead: circles instead okay

feel free to delete my diff if it's a bother and find another ppl to do since I'm not really confident with it now

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Irohas

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Irohas 2017-01-20T14:00:44+00:00

Janpai wrote:
feel free to delete my diff if it's a bother and find another ppl to do since I'm not really confident with it now

it's as you want

KantoKun

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KantoKun 2017-01-20T16:30:05+00:00

littie busy, i will fix soon

Koiyuki

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Koiyuki 2017-01-21T16:09:44+00:00

Just some complaints.
My personal suggestions.
Highly recommended.
Unrankable, you have to fix it.

Hard

00:25:321 (5) - add drum addition on the head?

pkhg's Insane

00:28:479 (1,3) - the only overlap slider I think I have to mention in the diff because it totally covers the other, stagger a bit like others(such as 00:24:690 (1,2,1,2) - )?

Janpai's Insane

00:55:637 (5) - nc?
00:49:321 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - testplayed and this part makes me feel a bit weird, well it's just a feeling
01:26:426 (1) - would be better if stack at the end of 01:25:637 (2) - imo

Sotarks' Expert

sry i cant understand your logic of placing circles, maybe it's cool and flows well for you but it really dazzles my eye.

Kanto's Memories

00:29:584 (6) - i think drum clap may fit better
00:45:847 (4,3) - nazi stack
01:15:847 (1,2) - place them here? it's more fun imo. also you may do some small changes for the following notes.
SPOILER

gl with the set

pkhg

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pkhg 2017-02-04T21:56:49+00:00

i agree with koiyuki but no changes

pkhg

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pkhg 2017-02-04T21:59:50+00:00

i agree with koiyuki but no changes

pkhg

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pkhg 2017-02-04T22:00:35+00:00

ppy qlo arregla tu wea de server

Irohas

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Irohas 2017-02-04T22:18:10+00:00

pkhg wrote:
ppy qlo arregla tu wea de server

porque hay español en lugar de ingles

pkhg

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pkhg 2017-02-05T18:08:22+00:00

memes

Sotarks

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Sotarks 2017-02-07T18:20:33+00:00

fixed sergio's mod exept that 12 pattern, that it's your personnal taste, 'cause i like it so..
i changed the stream aswell
https://sotarks.s-ul.eu/s05wrPOb

@koiyuki i'm sorry for your eyes !

Irohas

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Irohas 2017-02-07T18:24:24+00:00

updated waiting for kanto

iYiyo

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iYiyo 2017-02-12T21:58:14+00:00

Irohas wrote:
pkhg wrote:
ppy qlo arregla tu wea de server
porque hay español en lugar de ingles

xDDD

Irohas

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Irohas 2017-02-16T16:35:54+00:00

as Kanto requested

MrSergio wrote:
5 mod project, from the past
________________

Kanto's Memories

00:03:216 (1,2,3,4) - the way you spaced these beats make it so that the strong beats on 1,2 become less important and kind of fade out into the map. Even just a stack between 3,4 can work, but the best option is surely to reduce spacing between 2 and 3, like this i think kanto didn't stack these notes voluntary, so i tried to keep his pattern and emphasize 1,2 reducing the spacing between 2 and 3
00:05:742 (1,2) - please be consistent in your way to place 1/4 snaps after sliders. It's inconsistent with 00:04:795 (3,4,5) - so I can easily read that one as a 1/2 beat once I see it. (no, 00:05:426 (7,8,1) - the fact you did a different thing here is another matter, since this is different: it's circle + slider, while the other one is just a circle) I think it plays well if i keep, since the part at 00:05:663 (8,1) - deserves to have a bigger spacing than 00:04:795 (3,4,5) - to show that they're different
00:20:900 - well, I appreciate that you reduced SV from here on, but when I see spacings like 00:22:953 (3,4) - it's just no. If you do that you changed SV for nothing in the end. For proper expression you should also work with a smaller DS okay, reduced a bit
00:26:347 (2) - I'd rather remove this beat, it feels heavily overmapped or in any case, it is not similar to 00:28:084 (6) - for sure. lol there's a beat above
If you DO delete that make sure to not leave 00:25:953 (1,3) - as they are, because they will be misleading (spacing is the same as 00:15:847 (1,2) - on the playfield for example), so add a bit more of spacing ok
00:37:637 (2,3,4) - go check 00:04:795 (3,4,5) - density of the song is not the same, so keep
00:41:111 - you missed again the slight change into overall emphasis of the song here. You should be reducing spacing and SV again. As it is now this part is way too similar to other parts where the rhythm was truly more intense fixed somehow
00:45:847 (4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - ok... it plays fine, but you're ignoring the song. You previously mapped the drum quite well, but in this section you seem to be following vocals too. That's totally fine, but the way you do it feels not so convincing, I mean, you keep circling ccw with the same angle (00:46:163 (1,2) - ) over and over for this section. Is that it all? You should put more thought in what you do imo, but that's up to you I guess =3= i guess it's fine, it emphasizes the drum pretty well imo
00:53:742 (1,2,3,4) - this is way stronger than the other 2 squares so consider increasing spacing even more (twice as much as you think) it feels weird if i increase the spacing in this kind of part here xd i think the current spacing is sufficient to emphasize these big drums
01:07:795 (2,3) - 3 is way stronger than 2 in the song (notice vocals and drum there) but you use the same spacing on both. What happens is that 3 loses emphasis thanks to the jump on 2 and that feels not so right to me. Maybe stack 2 where you have 01:07:163 (5) - but the whole pattern could receive a general cleaning imo (aka, more thinking and planning) fixed somehow
I lost the count of how many times I saw 01:18:374 (3,4,5) - this sort of angle and movement. but it plays well :d
This sort of thing is like fast food: you can eat it anytime and it won't bore you that much since it's tasty, the problem is that it feels like recently I see only fast food around =w= lol rip
Where are my vegetables??? it's actually not a joke. Let's see if you get the reference :p

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2017-02-16T22:33:27+00:00

I see no vegetables around tho..

Not really interested tbh

Irohas

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Irohas 2017-02-16T22:53:14+00:00

lol rip

Sotarks

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Sotarks 2017-02-17T06:31:46+00:00

Irohas wrote:
lol rip

Janpai

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Janpai 2017-02-19T02:23:27+00:00

I've been considering Sergio's opinion so I did a remap, hope this one is better

4.89*

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KantoKun

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KantoKun 2017-02-20T07:22:07+00:00

my mapping, is that bad??

Irohas

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Irohas 2017-02-20T11:00:15+00:00

eINess wrote:
Kanto, I can't stop playing yours
cool work xD

iYiyo

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iYiyo 2017-02-21T03:50:40+00:00

KantoKun wrote:
my mapping, is that bad??

lol nope, imo MrSergio is nitpicking as hell lately... idk what's going on xd

Irohas

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Irohas 2017-02-21T11:22:02+00:00

iYiyo wrote:
lol nope, imo MrSergio is nitpicking as hell lately... idk what's going on xd

agree

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Sotarks 2017-02-26T12:13:47+00:00

sergio has his periods atm, just let it go and move on

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