Kiki Iki wrote:

Hi. Random mod

Atlantis

Dont use 0 stacks I use stack 3 tho, won't answer to them since they're kinda done on purpose

00:14:162 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - this and this 00:14:796 (5,6,7,8) - has different spacings. Redo. This applies to all the same patterns. on purpose
00:28:106 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 0 stack + different spacing. Redo.
00:30:430 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - change second stream. why? what's wrong with it?
00:38:881 (1,2,3,4) - 0 stack. Change. that would stack the same with an higher stack leniency tho
01:02:543 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
01:24:515 (1,2,3,4) - ^
Okay. Change all 0 stack patterns
01:36:557 (2,3,4) - increase spacing. mhhh, okay
02:00:008 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hard to read this. kinda fine to me
02:55:782 - 04:57:684 - exactly the same errors. Change all.

You need more work on this map. Good luck!

BoatKrab wrote:

Only 1 diff?
The song isn't more 5 minutes :O

[ Pennek ] wrote:

Holy shit, favorited!

Edit: take my kudosu!

MrSergio wrote:

I thought this needed a little boost

General

1. Hitsounding please~ they currently are in production LOL
2. Unused SB files: I just haven't uploaded the .osb :p
   
   • SB\backgrounds\white.jpg
     SB\chars\a_futura.png
     SB\chars\b_futura.png
     SB\chars\dot_futura.png
     SB\chars\d_futura.png
     SB\chars\e_futura.png
     SB\chars\i_futura.png
     SB\chars\l_futura.png
     SB\chars\o_futura.png
     SB\chars\u_futura.png
     SB\chars\v_futura.png
     SB\elements\circle.png
     SB\elements\circleFull.png
     SB\elements\circleHighlight.png
     SB\elements\koch curve.png
     SB\elements\pxl.png
     SB\elements\pxl3.png
     SB\elements\triangle1.png
     SB\elements\triangle2.png
     SB\elements\triangle3.png
     SB\elements\triangle4.png

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General

1. 00:29:585 (1) - rhythm here is a bit strange. You did differently for 00:36:346 (1) - , right? Imo this last one works waaaaay better rhythm-wise
2. 00:31:064 (6,1) - swapping NC here would work better, since you mostly used NCs to emphasize patterns before this. Take 00:27:050 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - as reference, it also looks cleaner to have the whole stream into the same combo in these parts imo I did on both!
3. 00:34:444 (6,1) - obviously same for consistency (I might not be able to point out all of them in the future since I'll forget, so give it a check too on your own)
4. 00:37:824 (6,1) - ^
5. 00:41:205 (6,1) - ^
6. 00:44:796 (1,4,1) - remove 1s and add NC on 4 (the last 1 can be kept if you want) (and actually... I don't even know if it is worth mentioning all of them since it's a really consistent behavior you have here, but stuff like 00:51:979 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - is surely inconsistent with the rest and it is actually trying to do what I'm doing, although slightly different)
7. 01:13:951 (7,1) - I'd like to focus on how the song literally changes rhythm totally from 7 to 1 here. 1 is way more intense and imo it requires circles instead. They would also make a better introduction for the next stream
8. 01:19:867 (2,3,4) - I checked the whole diff and this is probably the only 1/3 snap. Why not a repeat slider instead? Like this I actually prefer much more to have these. That's totally subjective
9. 01:35:923 (3) - adding a NC for just this one makes it more noticeable that "it has a different number of repeats" and also it looks cooler imo
10. 02:00:008 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the emphasis is at its peak here and your patterning is too, but it's a bit too confusing. I'd rather add a NC on 02:00:430 (5,5) - so you better define the curves you create. Moreover the stack leniency being low doesn't help at all, so we have to help the players in some way
11. 02:14:796 (5,6,7,8,1) - I know it wasn't your intention to use those 1/8 sliders for this stream, but what about reducing spacing so it gives a better feeling of the increased frequency of the beats? Just a little visual trick that makes the map more expressive imo
12. 02:15:219 - I know you haven't hitsounded yet, but consider reducing the volume for this part onward. Sliders, especially, are really loud @.@
13. 02:42:261 - from here on you can increase it
14. 02:55:782 - and from here you can return to the usual volume
15. 03:13:528 (1,2,3,4,5) - considering how this curves and how you previously had this part mapped, 03:13:739 (3,4,5) - this stands out quite a bit. Normal DS is not a good idea? :/
16. 03:42:684 (7,1) - mentioned earlier. Circles would work better for 1 and onward
17. 04:04:655 (3) - mentioned earlier. NC for consistency
18. 04:28:740 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - mentioned earlier too. 04:29:162 (5,5) - NCs to put emphasis on the more intense rhythm and help improve readability
19. 04:34:655 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this stream is ignoring that high pitched sound in foreground completely here D: Everything else nearby is using that sound as reference to use sliders, but here it feels like "let's ignore the song" :/ Is it possible to map that sound instead? It would really improve the map imo
20. 04:43:528 (5,6,7,8,1) - mentioned earlier too. Decreasing DS helps giving a nice feeling of the song imo I guess I'll keep that on this one to make an idea of progress; I did through the whole map the idea that stuff gets more harsh (through rhythm, spacing, flow, ...) and I guess this could make the map more intense that the first time, DS does decrease but not the second time.
21. 04:52:402 (3) - most nazi thing I ever pointed out, but: take the fourth slider node (it's the the first one after the red node) and move it at x252 y208. The reason is that you create an ugly curve there: Before After (yeah, I told you it was really nazi lol, although it is a bit meh imo so we can avoid that)

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If you can hitsound this and get some more mods I can help you a bit more :p

Viperial wrote:

hi! I love MitiS and I love this song alot
i'm not really good at modding or mapping so if you denied all of these suggestions i would understand.
Also this map has an abstract (Or unusual, i think abstract isn't the right word) style (Technical map) so I might not be able to help anything at all because I cant notice similar styles on different melody.

a very terrible mod

00:00:958 (4) - I think this object is further away then usual, while the second time this melody is repeated the 4th one ISN'T further away. This map probably is very distant lenient so thats probably just nothing unusual.
01:09:726 (2) - That object is going slightly offscreen, its just me but maybe you should make it a little higher?
01:22:402 (3) - there is no real way to indicate that this slider has a different slider velocity, but it isn't combobreaking so i guess its fine
01:24:515 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe this should have some type of movement? even stacking compared to 01:26:205 (1,2,3,4) - (but it sounds different) (It sounds like 4 sliders with different velos but thats just me)
01:48:177 (1) - Maybe this should be a slider like the next note? Theres audible sounds so I found it unusual (Unlike 01:51:557 (1) - where there isn't other sounds, just echos)
02:20:289 (1) - I think there should be a slider here, since there is a slider after 2 notes
02:30:430 (1) - Same as above, I think there should be a slider here
02:54:092 (1,2,3,4) - also Edging to the bottom of the screen, but its just me again .-.
03:08:669 (1) - I think that sliders are just the style of the map, my bad then
03:32:965 (1,2) - shouldn't the sliders just be regular notes?
04:16:909 (1) - There should be a slider here also?

Sorry if the mod is shorter then you expected, I couldn't find alot of things that I'd find to be 'unusual'

Zerss wrote:

Viperial wrote:

hi! I love MitiS and I love this song alot
i'm not really good at modding or mapping so if you denied all of these suggestions i would understand.
Also this map has an abstract (Or unusual, i think abstract isn't the right word) style (Technical map) so I might not be able to help anything at all because I cant notice similar styles on different melody.

a very terrible mod

00:00:958 (4) - I think this object is further away then usual, while the second time this melody is repeated the 4th one ISN'T further away. This map probably is very distant lenient so thats probably just nothing unusual.
01:09:726 (2) - That object is going slightly offscreen, its just me but maybe you should make it a little higher?
01:22:402 (3) - there is no real way to indicate that this slider has a different slider velocity, but it isn't combobreaking so i guess its fine
01:24:515 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe this should have some type of movement? even stacking compared to 01:26:205 (1,2,3,4) - (but it sounds different) (It sounds like 4 sliders with different velos but thats just me)
01:48:177 (1) - Maybe this should be a slider like the next note? Theres audible sounds so I found it unusual (Unlike 01:51:557 (1) - where there isn't other sounds, just echos)
02:20:289 (1) - I think there should be a slider here, since there is a slider after 2 notes
02:30:430 (1) - Same as above, I think there should be a slider here
02:54:092 (1,2,3,4) - also Edging to the bottom of the screen, but its just me again .-.
03:08:669 (1) - I think that sliders are just the style of the map, my bad then
03:32:965 (1,2) - shouldn't the sliders just be regular notes?
04:16:909 (1) - There should be a slider here also?

Sorry if the mod is shorter then you expected, I couldn't find alot of things that I'd find to be 'unusual'

Hello! Thank you for giving attention for my map and giving your time checking it, but I'm sorry to tell I'll be deleting this map. I'm sorry if you're feeling mad because you wanted a proper answer to the mod, I'm sure your mod is full of good ideas; and it is, from what I've seen, but answering just to delete is something useless. Again, I'm sorry. I wish you a good continuation in mapping/modding.

Viperial wrote:

I'm not at all mad, i'm actually really sad. This map is really wonderful in terms of mapping, why are you deleting it? Alot of people contributed kudosu to this map just to see it get deleted doesn't feel right, but its your map after all. Good luck with whatever you map though! (I'm keeping this map I love it to shreds)

Zerss wrote:

My map is not wonderful in terms of mapping; it might be wonderful to you, or to somebody else, but there are no way to tell something is beautiful.
Honestly, I'm totally not okay with telling that a map can be art. There's actually no way to tell something is art or something is not; art is something ambiguous. You can however implicitly determine art by thinking of either it is an everyday-element, if it's signed, if there's a message behind it, if it's creative, etc., but there's no way to tell if something is really art. Mapping is for me a pseudo-art, something between technical object and pure art; because it either can't be one of them. Technical elements can be reflected through mapping because of the fact that mapping is dedicated to a certain usage, here, clicking them. Art can also be reflected through mapping because of the fact that mapping is not a mercenary activity, it's made with passion and it's a disinterested activity. It's not one of those, it's something between it; it's a pseudo-art and it's just using another art, and this is drawing. What I'm trying to say is that a map cannot be characterized as "wonderful in terms of mapping" because there's no way to tell something is wonderful in mapping; the shape drawn by slider-arts can be, but just a simple circle in the middle of nowhere isn't. You can also tell it's the way I mapped it, for instance you can tell the flow is genius or whatever, but the thing is that, everybody has different ways of seeing maps, not much anymore since it's being generalized by big mappers such as pishifat -and I'm not against it, it's cool to have a certain point of view characterized through all of the mapping, it allows better communication between people and better understanding-, but I do think differently. I do not think about flow, I think about placements. I do not think about stacking, I think about partial overlapping. This map is the reflection of my vision of the song through a way of mapping which is mine, and modding is nice to have different point of views, but mapping is ambiguous, and there's no way to tell it's wonderful. There's also many reasons why I'm going to delete it. Leaving osu! won't mean I should delete all of my future graveyarded maps, but I'm firstly feeling bad of keeping them here because of my personal mind; they're the reflection of me, not the others. Don't even know why I uploaded them to be honest, but I guess I should've kept them offline. Deleteing them would also help in the fact that it would reach less people; I'm 100% sure that you wouldn't care at all if I would've delete my map before you even found that out, same for the one that threw kudosus. It would've been the same for other people, such as Pennek, which I'm really grateful for thowing much kudosu. Since I'm having many available kudosu, I'll give most of them for Pennek, because he shouldn't have even thrown kudosus on this.

I'm really sorry. I hope you could get what you want by mapping. You and all of the other helpers seems to be great people and I'm wishing you a good continuation in mapping and modding.

Linada wrote:

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• [Atlantis]

1. 00:13:529 - je trouve que le volume des hitsounds est vraiment trop fort, ça me casse les oreilles, et même 80% en general ça fait un peu fort, 70 ou même 60 ça fit mieux (bon t'a pas fait les hitsounds en fait mdr)
2. 01:09:726 (2,3) - tu pourrais leur donner une petite shape pour les différentier de 01:10:993 (1,2,3,4) - ? tu l'a fais sur la part d'apres 03:38:458 (2,3) -
3. 03:07:084 (4,5,6,7,8,1) - blanket ? :^)
4. 03:32:860 - je trouve ça un peu dommage de skip ce beat
5. 04:28:740 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ce pattern du futur

bon bah la map est méga clean gg

Zerss wrote:

I'm deleting this map

MrSergio wrote:

you wut????

Is my star icon worth nothing at all?
Is my opinion not worth at all?

Seriously, if this map is not good we should delete 95% of whatever got uploaded on these servers (and I'm not joking there, I've been saying this for a while)