Blocko wrote:

hi

gonna mod EZ and NM once you apply the weber mods

[HD]
00:06:342 - EZ and MX has a note here, but did you miss this one? :o

00:34:132 - Add a note here for the crash. sure
00:39:184 - 00:54:342 - Same as above for these two.

00:56:711 (56711|0) - LN should start at 00:56:237 - to follow the electric guitar more accurately. right

01:14:237 - Missing vocal note?thats an intentional ignore, i deleted the 1/2 note there tho so its not confusing anymore Same with 01:17:711 - .
01:14:395 - One more note here for the crash? yes

01:21:342 (81342|1,81658|3) - Switch these notes around by column for pitch relevance. yes

01:44:711 - Could probably add another note here for that drum. not a big fan of but sure
01:52:605 - Same as above.
01:55:447 (115447|1) - Same as above. Actually, it's a bit weird that some of the LNs here are left as single notes instead of 2-note chords just like you did earlier with a similar segment.
02:00:500 (120500|2) - Same as above. done

[MX]
00:50:868 (50868|3) - Should start at 00:50:711 - so it accurately follows the e-guitar. shouldnt that be here 00:51:026 - ?

01:12:026 (72026|3) - Kinda wanna go back to this for a bit. Same case with 02:02:553 (122553|3) - .
I don't really see why this one particular note is a short 1/4 LN. Most of the crashes here aren't mapped like so, and those short 1/4 LNs don't seem like it should be that way other than for artsy reasons. i dont really know why they are mini lns either

01:24:974 - Following your logic of having 2-note LN chords for the snares, I think you missed this one. you would be correct

01:31:132 (91132|2,91290|0,91605|2) - Thinking it'd be cool if you swap these notes around by column for an alternating effect with the vocal LNs + structured effect with the drum sounds. sounds actually quite fun

01:32:079 (92079|2,92868|0,93500|2) - Make this pitch relevant (or rearrange to 3,2,1) so you create an alternating trill at the end, which to me feels better as it transitions to the next part. mmmmmh, I dont think an alternating trill feels better (lachryma flashlights) but i guess making it 3-2-1 is fair but even with that said I am a fan of the shape in this part (having all doubles to be 23/12 aka having them together) so i guess we should talk about this on irc again.

01:42:342 (102342|1,102816|2,103447|3) - Kinda wondering why you have these LNs compared to the other ones which have only one long loong looong LN for that background synth. (see 01:35:868 (95868|1) - and 01:45:974 (105974|0) - ) I'm thinking they should be the same for some degree of consistency with how you use long LNs. I think its being consistent as it is one looooong one then some note long ones then another loooong one then the same amount of not long ones. What I did is cutting the first looong one here 01:37:290 - and used another LN and made some cuts to the other loong one too. That way it stays consistent in a general way (follows the sound all times) but its also not just long borings

01:44:237 (104237|1,104395|1) - Move these two to the right side to reduce a bit of left hand bias. aye

01:51:184 (111184|1) - Shouldn't this be a regular note? I don't really hear any vocal sounds here. i have no clue what it says but its something like ka-a-i or something. there is that A in the middle which is why that LN is there (arguably should be a jack but nah)

01:52:132 (112132|2,112447|0,113079|3,113711|2,114342|1) - You could probably make this part pitch relevant too (like 2,4,3,1,2) but you'd have to rearrange the patterns around that if you want to be more strict about it. did something

02:08:079 (128079|3,128237|2) - Shift these LNs up to 02:08:236 - so it follows the vocal more accurately. alright, but i hate this part of the song and i hate that part of the map anyways hah

02:11:711 (131711|3) - I'm not really hearing another vocal here that justifies why this is an LN, unless this one's a pitch shift in the vocal, but I'd like to know why that's the case. i hear a i-e-hi or whatever it is. I didnt broke the LN because its some sort of pitch shift and it isnt that noticeable

02:28:763 (148763|0) - Move this to 4? For pitch reasons. alright, but remember that took me a long time because lns are aauhgfauirar

02:35:237 - to 02:40:290 - I'm kinda struggling to see why you mapped this section with these patterns. I assume you want this section to start off with main LNs in the inner columns then going out to the outer columns, focusing on the drums in either inner or outer columns depending on the situation.
I'm wondering how the releases are mapped, because it looks like the releases and spacing is a bit random, making it a bit hard to understand what sounds you're trying to map without much of a hint except for the hitsounds. For some reason the day I mapped this, and i remember perfectly,
this patterns were super justified. But now I see them and I dont really get what I was aiming to do. So what I did is deleting 02:37:290 (157290|0) - this one so that way it stays at red-white-red taps. I would probably have to explain this on IRC because is a big mix:

First, the vocals marks where the inverse ends, with the last part (02:37:763 - )
Then this ones 02:36:500 (156500|3,157763|1) - are the marks of the new guitar too but in both, the previous note represents the previous guitar "feel" ending (its hard to explain, each guitar sound is extended and when it is cut by those LNs the LN cuts the feel of the long one)
02:39:026 (159026|3) - Same works for this one
02:38:395 (158395|1) - But then this one doesnt fulfill the criteria before but the reason is, that if it did, then the last guitar couldnt have any extention because its literally the point where both arguments mix each other so I picked the one I found the most interesting which is the long guitar feel and its why the first column LN is extended and not cut (02:39:026 (159026|3) - to follow that cut). This is probably the weirdest explanation I have ever made.


02:49:132 - Should be a 2-note LN chord for that crash. coolio

02:58:132 - Maybe you could add some notes here considering this is the peak of the song, and having more notes at this part amplifies that strong effect in gameplay. Eeeeh, I am not a fan of that one. Reason is because after so much pain I want the player to feel like "YES I DID IT" when its about to finish. Lets say you are holding the SS and you see that part coming and you feel like you finally managed to do it. That way it doesnt feel like the ending requires that much focus for you and wont ruin your play because of it. Same argument aplies if you choke on that and you want to jump off a window

brb sure

Rivals_7 wrote:

welp

1234

[EZ]

00:23:711 (23711|1,24026|0) - would move it to 1|3 respectively for some balance (as the map itself revolve around LN technique so optimize the balance xd)
eeee, I might as well just do it since two peeps mentioned already. I want to have the 2nd column "anchor" since its a hihat repeat but I will move this 00:24:026 (24026|0) -

02:04:447 (124447|3) - would extend for convenient sake to newbies after some spoilersTM I decided to change this without any sort of argument to be against

02:25:605 (145605|0) -> 02:34:763 eh kinda sad how this section opposite the pitch relevancy. might want to revise it I will most likely,
not sure about the pitch here since its like 2 am and i am a bit tired fug

[Jinjin]

00:21:342 - another syllables presents here so would add another LN here rioght

00:48:974 (48974|3) - i would rather prefer to keep the percussion on short notes since the noise doesnt exist for quite long
00:54:026 (54026|0) - yea all of this i wonder what jinjin was thinking the moment he did this

01:14:395 (74395|1,74395|0,74395|3) - think it would be pretty much to 3 noter chord here so would reduce one

02:04:921 (124921|3,124921|0,124921|1) - ^ sounds reasonable

02:34:763 (154763|2,154763|0,154763|3,154763|1) - why lmao. i didnt feel anything climatic here I think its a cool way to make a stop but if its too hard it will likely get removed (pmuch doing a full shield makes the sharp cut and feels good to play imo)

02:58:605 (178605|2) - maybe add another note beside it not a fan of it, dont think adding impact here makes a difference

will continue later because becus i'm an absolute lazybones xdxd

Rivals_7 wrote:

[HD]

00:45:026 (45026|0) - should be an LN? inconsistent with similar vocal premise at - 00:55:132 (55132|2) - mmh, alright

00:55:447 (55447|1,55605|0) - isnt this should be an LN? idk breaking consistent to prioritize kicks was your intention Whenever a vocal is 1/2 length I use them as normal notes instead of LNs, thats the reason why its not an LN even though it looks like it should.

01:30:816 (90816|1) - I prefer this on col 4 since the vocal is pretty high pitched fair

01:39:026 (99026|3,99184|1) - not really sure whats going on here. the first LN should be extended to the downbeat? First LN here is for the vocal and it gets extended 1/2 compared to the others because the vocal sounds a bit longer than other ticks. It also matches the release timing with a drumhit which makes it slightly more intuitive to release. The other LN (second one) is following the guitar which kinda changes pitch but in a really low way so instead of cutting the long LN that goes for the guitar I use another LN to represent the pitch change while keeping the sound up.

01:40:290 (100290|3,100763|0) - i think you were following something that chant "~aaaa~" in the background. if its so it was changing at - 01:40:921 - not at - 01:40:763 you are correct

01:49:132 (109132|3,109290|1) - eh same with 01:39
well its kinda odd to leave that loud snare without any hitting note - 01:49:605 - tho same

02:08:079 - i think the way you madean LN is kinda off. here's the correct one
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9004507
oh yeah be careful with the HS tho The first LN is for the guitar while the second one is a simplification of the 1/2 vocals (which in the MX are actually 2 notes separated but not for this one in particular for the sake of simplification)

[MX]

01:01:290 (61290|0,61447|0) - dunno why is this the only one being 2 LNs while the other is like 4 LNs (it sounds the same imo) That is because the vocal is not as long as the times where you have 4. Plus the sound doesnt feel that long anyways. Perhaps it repeats itself 4 times but it would make the layer a bit weird to play.

01:25:290 - think you should make another LN here? there's an obvious kick here. its kinda confused to play where there's a kick but no notes to hit
its happening in other places on kiai I have thought about it many times and I would rather keep it as it is and make it more coordination oriented. Dont really want to just make it full inverse but also somewhat weird to release. The rhytm is kinda consistent so I imagine it would be alright for players once they get the idea of it.

02:04:447 (124447|1) - dont think the noise is worth to emphasis as 2 noter so would delete one fairs

02:19:447 (139447|0) - dont really got whats this follows oops
also this 2 kicks structure - 02:19:605 (139605|1,139763|2) - aint consistent with - 01:29:079 (89079|2,89237|2) - noticed the moment you mentioned that note haha, really nice catch

02:34:132 (154132|3) - anchor is kinda eh plus its LNs. maybe something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9004649 i guess it kinda works

Rivals_7 wrote:

idk why are you having CrashL and crashR whilst you already have soft hitfinish here.
Its accurate though but i found it kinda disturbing to hear the cymbal in only one side of the speaker I blame prot for this
[HD]

00:43:605 (43605|3,43921|3) - Missing C (with "normal" additions. you got what i mean)

00:58:921 (58921|3) - C

01:01:605 (61605|0) - WC (or just C i guess since you seem to have different interpretation on every diff)

01:15:974 (75974|2) - missing C drum

01:34:132 - think you missing a note here. something similar to - 02:54:974 (174974|2) -

the rest looks pretty fine to me but if you spot some inconsistencies in between diff, you might fix those as well.

Rivals_7 wrote:

eeee

[jinjin]

01:21:974 (81974|0) - should be F i think. somewhat similar to - 02:12:500 (132500|0) - . at least thats what you do in any other diffs

i'm tardy

Weber wrote:

Qualified!







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Blocko wrote:

I'm back.

[EZ]
Gonna start with 00:44:237 - because that bugs me the most.

00:44:237 - The thing that bugs me the most is that the rest of the map is not as dense as the patterns at the start of the map. I'm really thinking that the jump in complexity from EZ to NM might be a bit much thanks to the lack of jumps and notes in the middle of LNs. Jinjin's NM may be easy to follow, but EZ seems too simplified.

There are lots of opportunities for you to add jumps (e.g. 00:44:237 - , 00:49:290 - , 00:54:342 - , 00:59:395 - , to name a few) and drums (e.g. 00:47:079 - , 00:47:711 - , 00:48:342 - , 00:48:974 - , etc.) so the patterns are as complex as the ones at the start and so the rest of the map isn't as easy compared to the intro.

Same case for 01:34:763 - . It's way too simplified and could use more pattern complexity. You could complicate these patterns slightly by focusing more on the vocals just so it keeps up with the complexity in the intro and to make the jump between this and Jinjin's NM a bit more lenient.

Basically what I'm saying is EZ is too simplified and needs more pattern complexity compared to Jinjin's NM and to keep up with the same intricacy at the start of the map, because the rest of the map is easier than the start of it.

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And now we're back to your regularly scheduled modding.

Most of these suggestions ties in to what I said earlier, so these will end up making your map slightly more complex should you choose to apply them.

00:23:079 - I think you missed a hi-hat note here.

00:44:237 - Add a note here to put more emphasis on that crash.
Same case for these guys: 00:49:290 - , 00:54:342 - , 00:59:395 - , 01:14:395 - , 01:19:447 - , 01:24:500 - , 01:29:553 - , 01:32:079 - , 01:34:763 - , etc.
Listed some timestamps here since there's a bunch of them you could add.

00:44:237 (44237|3) - Could shrink this LN's length down to 00:44:711 - and add an LN on 00:44:711 - so the patterns follow the e-guitar more accurately.
00:54:342 (54342|1) - Same case as above. Shrink down to 00:54:816 - and add an LN on 00:54:816 - . For this two even tho I understand it I imagine it would be hard to catch for a new player, specially considering the drum hit on the white tick just before the point where the LN would be divided.

00:51:026 (51026|3) - Should be placed in 00:50:711 - to accurately follow the e-guitar, and also to make it have similar placement with 00:59:395 - , which is where you followed the e-guitar nicely. Really? I think the drum hits harder there. I mean, if you say so I will end up changing it in the last go but :thinking: That and all the diffs have that LN which is weird, but the other one makes more sense e-guitar why u do dis

01:04:447 - This part could be a bit more stressful. added some doubles but not much other than that. I feel it would be just too tricky with some of this adds
You could add notes on 01:05:079 - and 01:05:395 - for those drums. Might be a bit tricky because there will be some 1/2 shenanigans going on. Same with 01:07:605 - , 01:07:921 - and 01:10:132 - , 01:10:447 - .
Could add one more note on those crashes to further emphasize them on 01:04:447 - , 01:06:974 - , 01:09:500 - , 01:12:026 - and 01:13:290 - .

01:54:974 - Pretty much the same case as the suggestion above. Add notes on drums like 01:55:605 - , 01:55:921 - and crashes like 01:54:974 - , 01:57:500 - , etc.

01:52:447 (112447|0,113711|2) - Would be cool if these LNs were to focus on the vocal better by adding an LN in the middle of each of those LNs.

I think the rest of the suggestions should cover the rest of the map. I'll go over this more in-depth if you decide to make EZ harder.

[Jinjin's NM]
00:34:290 (34290|1,34447|2) - I think I'm only hearing one syllable here. If so, then these should turn into just one LN. i think there is a slight i-i on it. But I used whats more clear here with one LN.

00:39:184 (39184|2) - Could turn this into a jump for further impact on that drop. aye

00:57:026 (57026|0,57184|3) - Should be one LN since it's one syllable, if I'm hearing it correctly. same case as the FIRST one, ha get it?!?1

01:44:237 (104237|0,104395|0,104711|0) - Not very sure if putting 1/4 LNs is really necessary.
You already have 1/4 LNs as the snare right here, and I'm thinking thats there to accentuate the bass, but this makes it needlessly complicated to get through.
Would recommend just turning these into regular notes since the two-note stack already puts emphasis on the bass anyways. I agree, I dont even know why jinjin uses 1/4 Lns on this map tbh but those are certainly ew

02:45:658 (165658|1,165974|1,166290|1,166921|2,167237|2,167553|2,168184|0,168816|3) - Same suggestion as above. The two LNs beside these short LNs already stress the e-guitar (and the pattern) enough, and having 1/4 LNs beside them makes this more complicated than it should.
02:55:921 (175921|1,176237|1,176868|2,177816|2) - Same case as above, though I'd leave the 1/4 LNs on the snare for emphasis.

For this last ones I disagree, I think the guitar stresses it, thats right, but its only on the right hand so its easier to play around. The first set (ha) is following the vocal so its reasonable that it uses LNs. For the last set of them, I would change them if required but I think the impact is due to column change rather than using mini LNs. I dont mind the change but thats what I think
I'll be back.

Rivals_7 wrote:

now that i think of it. jinjin feature's quite tricky shields and inverse which do not usually used on NM tier but since the map theme itself is LN so its make sense but still, now i think EZ is quite too far from NM

[EZ]

00:39:184 (39184|2) - buff up a lil bit more http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9099019

00:44:711 - i'm pretty sure what blocko said will not confuse any newer players. the guitar could be hearded pretty easily so i believe they will get the idea of the LN were following the guitar. if its was drum, then the entire LN should've been following drums. and that would be tricky since its syncopated sometimes

01:05:079 - not sure with the "1/2 shenanigans" but the guitar should've been ended here along with a note to accompany the drum For this one I would rather keep it as it is. Its makes more vocal emphasys imo.

01:55:605 - so the LN end and the next LN separated with kind of odd distance in between which is kinda hard to time for newbies. and with the syncopated drums making it even more hard. similar, changed the pattern a bit to be more easy to read.
so this is what i was suggesting (more or less)

to cover both the drums and ending the LN in a more predictable sense

02:34:763 - 02:35:237 (155237|2) - 02:45:342 (165342|3) - one more note pls added some, not the first one though, I want to keep that as silent release.

02:36:500 (156500|1,157763|0,158395|2,159026|3) - hmmm i kinda have an idea for these to have an additional note as well (actually, i refer to all of the LN in this kiai). considering its the final climax and everything could be a little harder

maybe its just that

Sinnoh wrote:

Felt like trying this because LNs, but noticed some weird stuff happen while playing
You use soft sampleset as the base, but you never actually use soft-hitclap. If there is a drum-hitclap or normal-hitclap incoming and I press the key really early, the default soft-hitclap plays which sounds really out of place.
Would it be possible to include a soft-hitclap which is the same as normal-hitclap so that when someone messes up, it doesn't sound out of place?

also

HD
00:06:342 (6342|2) - This is the only diff with a storyboarded hitsound here?
01:30:026 (90026|1) - Make these LNs? Same sounds as 01:19:921 (79921|3) - and those are mapped with LNs
02:01:605 (121605|0) - This section is a bit weird since only thing played is 1/2 3/4 pairs. Possible to change patterns to avoid this?

Rivals_7 wrote:

got permission from ET Blocko to continuing this

Buffed EZ slightly more

Blocko wrote:

Rivals_7 wrote:

got permission from ET Blocko to continuing this

Buffed EZ slightly more

I'm not ET

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juankristal

2017-10-03 22:02 Blocko: __Really? I think the drum hits harder there. I mean, if you say so I will end up changing it in the last go but :thinking: That and all the diffs have that LN which is weird, but the other one makes more sense e-guitar why u do dis__
2017-10-03 22:03 Blocko: im scratching my head a bit
2017-10-03 22:03 juankristal: which part is it
2017-10-03 22:03 Blocko: ez 00:51:026 (51026|3) -
2017-10-03 22:04 juankristal: i mean
2017-10-03 22:04 juankristal: all the diffs have that ln
2017-10-03 22:04 juankristal: starting there
2017-10-03 22:05 Blocko: but you can change that so it makes more sense
2017-10-03 22:05 Blocko: well, to me anyway
2017-10-03 22:06 juankristal: i guess i can change the EZ one
2017-10-03 22:06 juankristal: no the HD one
2017-10-03 22:06 Blocko: i thought HD one follows the vocal more '_>"
2017-10-03 22:06 juankristal: and likely not the MX either
2017-10-03 22:06 juankristal: given it has vocal emphasys
2017-10-03 22:06 juankristal: ye
2017-10-03 22:06 juankristal: exactly
2017-10-03 22:06 juankristal: for this one, given there isnt really vocals
2017-10-03 22:06 juankristal: i guess its fine
2017-10-03 22:06 juankristal: where should i move it btw
2017-10-03 22:06 Blocko: and EZ / MX follows e-guitar pretty separately
2017-10-03 22:06 juankristal: i hate snaps
2017-10-03 22:06 Blocko: 00:50:711 -
2017-10-03 22:10 juankristal: okey
2017-10-03 22:10 juankristal: moved
2017-10-03 22:12 Blocko: oh ye
2017-10-03 22:12 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1124739 cillia - FIRST [EZ]]
2017-10-03 22:12 Blocko: 01:18:184 - i'm thinking you could add a note here after two 2/1 LNs (01:16:921 (76921|0,77553|2) - ) so each 4/1 long note is a jump, also for some consistency with 01:24:500 -
2017-10-03 22:14 Blocko: and add one on 01:28:290 - and on 01:18:184 -
2017-10-03 22:15 Blocko: and one on 02:08:711 - and one on 02:15:026 - and one on 02:18:816 -
2017-10-03 22:15 Blocko: and one on 02:25:290 - for that drop
2017-10-03 22:16 juankristal: oki
2017-10-03 22:16 juankristal: i mean, its ez af anyways
2017-10-03 22:18 juankristal: 02:39:026 (159026|0) - added one here too
2017-10-03 22:19 Blocko: nice
2017-10-03 22:20 Blocko: thoughts on adding one on 02:34:763 - ?
2017-10-03 22:20 juankristal: i think someone mentioned that before
2017-10-03 22:20 juankristal: i think its actually harder if there isnt any note there
2017-10-03 22:20 juankristal: i like it as it is honestly
2017-10-03 22:20 Blocko: gerp
2017-10-03 22:21 juankristal: when a release is actually a press
2017-10-03 22:22 Blocko: that's contradictory but im trying to find words as to why i suppose i think it fits either way
2017-10-03 22:22 Blocko: using releases as actual notes for sounds '_>"">
2017-10-03 22:22 juankristal: i mean
2017-10-03 22:22 juankristal: technically i can just say
2017-10-03 22:22 juankristal: i am ignoring the voice
2017-10-03 22:22 juankristal: so its just the guitar
2017-10-03 22:22 juankristal: and it acuratelly ends there
2017-10-03 22:23 Blocko: i suppose
2017-10-03 22:23 juankristal: plus the previous section is full guitar
2017-10-03 22:23 juankristal: and nothing else
2017-10-03 22:23 Blocko: either way i think you just used a release so it follows that cymbal
2017-10-03 22:23 Blocko: or something
2017-10-03 22:23 Blocko: idk im 10:23
2017-10-03 22:23 juankristal: im 11:23
2017-10-03 22:23 Blocko: go slep
2017-10-03 22:23 juankristal: no
2017-10-03 22:23 Blocko: i need to get off at 11pm lul
2017-10-03 22:23 juankristal: neve
2017-10-03 22:23 juankristal: r
2017-10-03 22:23 juankristal: lmao
2017-10-03 22:24 juankristal: you only have 30 minutes to rank my maps
2017-10-03 22:24 juankristal: good luck
2017-10-03 22:24 Blocko: 00:54:342 (54342|1) - S P L I T THIS
2017-10-03 22:25 juankristal: split?
2017-10-03 22:25 Blocko: or shrink down to 00:54:816 - and add an LN on 00:54:816 -
2017-10-03 22:25 juankristal: o ok
2017-10-03 22:25 juankristal: i was looking at hitsounds
2017-10-03 22:25 juankristal: lOL
2017-10-03 22:26 Blocko: gerp
2017-10-03 22:28 Blocko: did you do it or did you deny
2017-10-03 22:28 juankristal: i did it
2017-10-03 22:28 juankristal: lol
2017-10-03 22:28 Blocko: aw shieeet
2017-10-03 22:28 juankristal: its le same as 00:44:711 -
2017-10-03 22:29 Blocko: yeh
2017-10-03 22:29 juankristal: you sure 00:50:711 (50711|3) - thats fine?
2017-10-03 22:29 juankristal: 00:51:026 - and not here
2017-10-03 22:29 Blocko: i'm positive
2017-10-03 22:30 juankristal: on what
2017-10-03 22:30 Blocko: on what i proposed
2017-10-03 22:30 Blocko: which is having that ln on 00:50:711 -
2017-10-03 22:30 juankristal: but i just mentioned a different note
2017-10-03 22:30 juankristal: o
2017-10-03 22:30 juankristal: ok
2017-10-03 22:30 Blocko: so basically i mean yes
2017-10-03 22:34 juankristal: i fixed a release on mx meanwhile
2017-10-03 22:34 Blocko: sweet
2017-10-03 22:38 juankristal: https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/512408#mania/1088936 wat
2017-10-03 22:43 Blocko: wat
2017-10-03 22:44 juankristal: why did my map link convetrted to that
2017-10-03 22:44 Blocko: idk
2017-10-03 22:47 Blocko: sorry i got distracted
2017-10-03 22:47 Blocko: uhh
2017-10-03 22:47 juankristal: its fine
2017-10-03 22:47 juankristal: wanna just do it other day?
2017-10-03 22:47 Blocko: sure
2017-10-03 22:48 Blocko: i suppose EZ looks fine now
2017-10-03 22:48 juankristal: i imagine
2017-10-03 22:48 Blocko: upd00t
2017-10-03 22:51 juankristal: i already updooted
2017-10-03 22:51 Blocko: swanky
2017-10-03 22:52 Blocko: actually i have one thing i wanna know
2017-10-03 22:52 Blocko: 01:34:763 - to 01:54:974 - does this follow the vocal
2017-10-03 22:53 juankristal: no
2017-10-03 22:53 juankristal: it follows the bg synth
2017-10-03 22:53 juankristal: or whatever that is
2017-10-03 22:53 Blocko: oooo
2017-10-03 22:55 Blocko: detecting pitch changes for this one is pretty difficult
2017-10-03 22:55 Blocko: hm
2017-10-03 22:59 Blocko: i have hw to do so i'll look into it further tmr
2017-10-03 22:59 juankristal: kk
2017-10-14 19:25 juankristal: ET
2017-10-14 19:29 Blocko: no u
2017-10-14 19:29 Blocko: who dis
2017-10-14 19:29 Blocko: where did we leave off again
2017-10-14 19:32 juankristal: uhhh
2017-10-14 19:32 juankristal: i think the last thing we did was buffing EZ?
2017-10-14 19:32 Blocko: yeah
2017-10-14 19:33 Blocko: ok uhh i'll just go through it again
2017-10-14 19:33 juankristal: alright
2017-10-14 19:34 Blocko: 00:55:290 (55290|2,55763|0,56079|3) - rearrange to 2/4/3 so it ~roughly~ follows the e-guitar pitch
2017-10-14 19:35 Blocko: 00:59:868 (59868|1,60816|0) - switch these notes around so col 2 has a looooooooooooong ln for this section
2017-10-14 19:35 juankristal: alright
2017-10-14 19:37 juankristal: was thinking about moving this 01:53:711 (113711|2) - to 4
2017-10-14 19:37 Blocko: that works too
2017-10-14 19:38 juankristal: why the heck is there a green line 02:04:526 -
2017-10-14 19:38 juankristal: ¿¿
2017-10-14 19:38 Blocko: idk '_>"
2017-10-14 19:38 Blocko: why are there green lines on 02:44:237 -
2017-10-14 19:38 juankristal: those are intentionall
2017-10-14 19:39 juankristal: to increase the hitsound volume
2017-10-14 19:39 Blocko: their placement is kinda odd though
2017-10-14 19:39 juankristal: why is it odd
2017-10-14 19:40 juankristal: is to increase 02:44:711 (164711|0,164711|2,165342|0,165342|3) - those
2017-10-14 19:40 juankristal: actually just 02:44:711 (164711|0,165342|0) - those
2017-10-14 19:41 Blocko: why is it on 02:44:316 - though? shouldn't that timing point be on 02:44:711 - ?
2017-10-14 19:41 juankristal: does that affect the note though
2017-10-14 19:41 juankristal: i thought it had to be before
2017-10-14 19:41 Blocko: not like it matters in the long run but it would make a lot of sense to put the volume change when the note exactly gets executed
2017-10-14 19:41 juankristal: or at least happened on std for me
2017-10-14 19:42 Blocko: and yes it works
2017-10-14 19:42 Blocko: source: just tested it
2017-10-14 19:42 juankristal: wew
2017-10-14 19:42 juankristal: i got lied
2017-10-14 19:42 juankristal: std y u do dis
2017-10-14 19:42 Blocko: breh
2017-10-14 19:42 juankristal: lemme change it then i guess
2017-10-14 19:43 juankristal: 02:45:421 - that one is fien though
2017-10-14 19:43 juankristal: right
2017-10-14 19:43 juankristal: brb in like 3 mins
2017-10-14 19:43 Blocko: i suppose
2017-10-14 19:44 Blocko: i'd put it at 02:46:605 - though lol
2017-10-14 19:44 Blocko: also
2017-10-14 19:44 Blocko: 01:42:342 (102342|3,102816|0) - this should have the same pattern structure as 01:39:816 (99816|0,100290|2,100921|1) - seeing as you're focusing on the vocal
2017-10-14 19:44 juankristal: but thats not following the vocal though
2017-10-14 19:45 juankristal: anyways brb
2017-10-14 19:45 Blocko: then what's it following to?
2017-10-14 19:46 Blocko: this ln in particular 01:40:290 (100290|2) - and the rest of the lns imply that it's following the vocal because of their releases are right on cue with the vocal
2017-10-14 19:50 Blocko: well at least to me anyway
2017-10-14 19:51 Blocko: 01:34:763 (94763|1,97290|3) - im wondering why those guys are pretty simplified as well
2017-10-14 19:52 Blocko: other than those ones i think easy is finally ready
2017-10-14 19:52 Blocko: gerp
2017-10-14 19:55 juankristal: alright back
2017-10-14 19:55 juankristal: so
2017-10-14 19:56 juankristal: what those LNs are following is the synth in the background
2017-10-14 19:56 juankristal: for example, 01:42:342 (102342|3) - here is a high pitched one
2017-10-14 19:56 juankristal: so you get the idea of the sound
2017-10-14 19:57 juankristal: and the other simplified ones you mentioned are following the same thing which is why they are simplified
2017-10-14 19:57 juankristal: though psure i could split at least the first one
2017-10-14 19:57 Blocko: you could
2017-10-14 20:00 juankristal: alright so
2017-10-14 20:00 juankristal: arranged that then
2017-10-14 20:02 Blocko: coolio
2017-10-14 20:03 Blocko: gonna move on to dun dununun
2017-10-14 20:03 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1149572 cillia - FIRST [Jinjin's NM]]
2017-10-14 20:03 Blocko: 01:17:395 (77395|2) - did you miss a syllable here 01:17:395 (77395|2) -
2017-10-14 20:03 Blocko: 02:07:921 (127921|1) - same
2017-10-14 20:06 juankristal: you mean in here
2017-10-14 20:06 juankristal: 01:17:553 (77553|1) -
2017-10-14 20:06 juankristal: ?
2017-10-14 20:08 juankristal: if so, those syllable i am psure they are represented as a that normal note
2017-10-14 20:08 Blocko: i meant on 01:17:711 -
2017-10-14 20:08 juankristal: i think that smooths out the transition afterwards better
2017-10-14 20:08 juankristal: wait
2017-10-14 20:08 juankristal: 01:17:711 -
2017-10-14 20:09 juankristal: its definetly not a syllable there
2017-10-14 20:09 Blocko: sounds like it's going from uuuu to wa on that time though
2017-10-14 20:10 juankristal: thats on 01:17:553 -
2017-10-14 20:10 juankristal: if you want to be like ultra picky it could be 01:17:632 - here
2017-10-14 20:11 Blocko: i still hear it on 01:17:711 -
2017-10-14 20:11 Blocko: 01:17:553 - is the continued uuuuuuuuuuu
2017-10-14 20:11 juankristal: well, i might be deaf
2017-10-14 20:11 juankristal: so i dont blame you
2017-10-14 20:11 juankristal: but psure its not
2017-10-14 20:11 juankristal: i mean, there isnt a single diff that has a note there
2017-10-14 20:11 juankristal: :thinking:
2017-10-14 20:12 Blocko: ACTION goes on hd
2017-10-14 20:12 juankristal: lmao
2017-10-14 20:12 Blocko: 01:17:711 - hmmm
2017-10-14 20:13 juankristal: its legit the only one
2017-10-14 20:13 juankristal: mb
2017-10-14 20:13 juankristal: okey i hear what you mean now
2017-10-14 20:14 juankristal: i think it still would be a bit overkill for NM
2017-10-14 20:14 Blocko: ehh i wouldn't think so
2017-10-14 20:15 juankristal: so 1-2
2017-10-14 20:15 Blocko: if anything, it shows that you're pretty much focusing on vocals
2017-10-14 20:15 Blocko: which is the impression i get from this diff heh
2017-10-14 20:16 Blocko: http://puu.sh/xYiZb/cc62f4b5bb.jpg would this work
2017-10-14 20:17 juankristal: eeeeeeeeeee
2017-10-14 20:17 juankristal: why i feel this is so confusing
2017-10-14 20:17 juankristal: lmao
2017-10-14 20:17 Blocko: sounds clear to me hah
2017-10-14 20:17 Blocko: well
2017-10-14 20:18 Blocko: probably because it blends a bit
2017-10-14 20:18 juankristal: probably because drum tick 01:17:553 - in here
2017-10-14 20:19 juankristal: idk i feel 01:17:553 (77553|0,77711|1,77868|0) - thats too hard
2017-10-14 20:21 Blocko: could probably do this too http://puu.sh/xYj8V/62997bdb14.jpg
2017-10-14 20:22 juankristal: the problem with that is that it breaks the idea of the map imo
2017-10-14 20:23 juankristal: like
2017-10-14 20:23 juankristal: all the vocal LNs are always on close to the other
2017-10-14 20:23 Blocko: you mean they're connected in a way?
2017-10-14 20:24 juankristal: ye
2017-10-14 20:26 juankristal: aaaaa
2017-10-14 20:26 juankristal: it feels so akward this way
2017-10-14 20:26 juankristal: lmao
2017-10-14 20:26 Blocko: [https://puu.sh/xYjjU/cf9a305efb.jpg thoughts]
2017-10-14 20:26 juankristal: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9318702 me irl
2017-10-14 20:27 Blocko: it's just a minor thing cuz i think it's better to be more stringent with the vocal
2017-10-14 20:27 Blocko: mem
2017-10-14 20:27 juankristal: i think i just went with that last one
2017-10-14 20:27 juankristal: that you sent
2017-10-14 20:28 Blocko: nice
2017-10-14 20:28 Blocko: then we gud
2017-10-14 20:28 juankristal: actually
2017-10-14 20:28 Blocko: hm?
2017-10-14 20:28 juankristal: fuck it
2017-10-14 20:28 juankristal: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9318721
2017-10-14 20:28 juankristal: that plays better imo
2017-10-14 20:28 Blocko: ye
2017-10-14 20:29 Blocko: i was going with how you mentioned that lns are connected in a way
2017-10-14 20:29 Blocko: 02:07:763 - could do this for this one too
2017-10-14 20:29 juankristal: yyea
2017-10-14 20:30 juankristal: this i did https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9318731
2017-10-14 20:30 Blocko: wew
2017-10-14 20:31 Blocko: 01:10:290 (70290|0,70290|2) - could stretch these lns up to 01:10:605 -
2017-10-14 20:31 juankristal: why those in particular
2017-10-14 20:32 juankristal: and not literally everything else hah
2017-10-14 20:32 Blocko: because there's not another ln in the same columns after those releases
2017-10-14 20:33 juankristal: oh
2017-10-14 20:33 juankristal: that makes sense actually
2017-10-14 20:33 juankristal: though I dont know if thats a good idea actually
2017-10-14 20:34 juankristal: i mean, up to that point you kinda get used to the release timings and shifting it back for just one note seems a bit weird
2017-10-14 20:35 juankristal: though jinjin kinda did that in the second try
2017-10-14 20:36 juankristal: though it was larger consecutives
2017-10-14 20:36 juankristal: :thinkler:
2017-10-14 20:36 Blocko: i'd like to say 'i beg to differ' and point out the section on 02:00:026 -
2017-10-14 20:36 Blocko: oh wait you mentioned it
2017-10-14 20:36 Blocko: e
2017-10-14 20:36 juankristal: lmao
2017-10-14 20:36 juankristal: one step ahead m8
2017-10-14 20:37 juankristal: alright got them longer
2017-10-14 20:37 Blocko: 00:06:342 - where's that note
2017-10-14 20:38 juankristal: in your heart
2017-10-14 20:38 Blocko: well it's missing
2017-10-14 20:38 juankristal: is it
2017-10-14 20:38 juankristal: i mean
2017-10-14 20:38 juankristal: maybe jinjin didnt want it
2017-10-14 20:38 Blocko: or maybe he forgot!!
2017-10-14 20:38 Blocko: oooOOOOooo
2017-10-14 20:38 juankristal: oooooooooOOOOOOOOOOO
2017-10-14 20:38 Blocko: i don't suppose it matters that much i guess
2017-10-14 20:38 juankristal: AAAAAAAAAAA
2017-10-14 20:38 juankristal: EEE
2017-10-14 20:38 juankristal: A
2017-10-14 20:38 juankristal: E
2017-10-14 20:38 juankristal: I
2017-10-14 20:38 juankristal: E
2017-10-14 20:38 juankristal: A
2017-10-14 20:38 juankristal: JOOOOOOOOOOO
2017-10-14 20:39 juankristal: i guess it doesnt
2017-10-14 20:39 Blocko: ok
2017-10-14 20:39 Blocko: uhh
2017-10-14 20:39 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1149572 cillia - FIRST [Jinjin's NM]]
2017-10-14 20:39 Blocko: wrong diff shit
2017-10-14 20:39 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1124740 cillia - FIRST [HD]]
2017-10-14 20:39 juankristal: aye
2017-10-14 20:39 Blocko: 02:08:079 - looks like an odd placing with those lns for the vocal
2017-10-14 20:40 Blocko: cuz i think you missed a syllable on 02:08:395 -
2017-10-14 20:41 juankristal: correct
2017-10-14 20:42 Blocko: 01:40:763 - mmm idk
2017-10-14 20:42 Blocko: kinda plays weird to me because of that release on 01:40:290 (100290|3) -
2017-10-14 20:43 juankristal: why is the release there anyways
2017-10-14 20:43 juankristal: wtf
2017-10-14 20:43 Blocko: idk
2017-10-14 20:43 juankristal: extended 1/2
2017-10-14 20:43 juankristal: so fixed
2017-10-14 20:43 Blocko: sugoi
2017-10-14 20:44 Blocko: the rest of these suggestions are pretty small things at this point so
2017-10-14 20:44 Blocko: 00:39:184 - add one note for more impact with the crash
2017-10-14 20:44 juankristal: gotchu
2017-10-14 20:45 juankristal: I think i have to delete 00:51:500 (51500|2) - that
2017-10-14 20:46 Blocko: that'd be cool
2017-10-14 20:47 juankristal: done
2017-10-14 20:48 Blocko: 00:44:237 (44237|2) - coooooooould shrink this ln down to 00:44:711 - and add one on 00:44:711 - stretching up to 00:45:184 - but you'd have to rearrange the overall pattern
2017-10-14 20:51 Blocko: 00:54:342 - add one note here for the crash
2017-10-14 20:54 juankristal: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9318857
2017-10-14 20:54 juankristal: that i did
2017-10-14 20:54 juankristal: and added
2017-10-14 20:54 Blocko: ooh nice
2017-10-14 20:54 Blocko: 00:54:816 - to 00:56:711 - honestly feels like the normal notes here clash with the lns
2017-10-14 20:55 Blocko: i mean, you could probs turn 00:55:447 (55447|1,55605|0) - into one whole note and probably delete this one 00:56:237 (56237|0) - so it's clear you're following the e-guitar / vocal more
2017-10-14 20:57 juankristal: do they?
2017-10-14 20:57 juankristal: the wonki part here 00:55:132 - is the problem imo
2017-10-14 20:57 juankristal: if any
2017-10-14 20:58 Blocko: i suppose
2017-10-14 20:59 Blocko: just feels that the rhythm there is weird in general
2017-10-14 20:59 juankristal: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9318885
2017-10-14 20:59 juankristal: that should work
2017-10-14 21:01 Blocko: that works
2017-10-14 21:01 Blocko: 00:56:237 (56237|0) - could move this to 2 though
2017-10-14 21:02 juankristal: sure why not
2017-10-14 21:03 Blocko: 01:01:132 (61132|3) - shouldn't this end at 01:01:290 - ?
2017-10-14 21:03 juankristal: mmmh
2017-10-14 21:03 juankristal: probably? but i mean most of those LNs should anyway
2017-10-14 21:04 juankristal: i could short it down but
2017-10-14 21:04 juankristal: idk if it would work that well
2017-10-14 21:07 Blocko: i don't see why not
2017-10-14 22:29 Blocko: oh right you also have that as the same length as 01:51:658 (111658|1) -
2017-10-14 22:29 Blocko: hm
2017-10-14 22:29 Blocko: hmmmmm
2017-10-14 22:29 juankristal: mnhmhmhm
2017-10-14 22:31 juankristal: so
2017-10-14 22:31 juankristal: shortened both lns
2017-10-14 22:31 Blocko: cool
2017-10-14 22:32 Blocko: 02:20:395 (140395|2) - odd that you don't have this starting at 02:20:079 -
2017-10-14 22:32 juankristal: correct
2017-10-14 22:35 juankristal: changed it
2017-10-14 22:35 Blocko: 02:45:342 - feels like this part is much easier than the previous ones
2017-10-14 22:37 juankristal: arent all diffs easier at that point
2017-10-14 22:37 juankristal: I think I can buff that a it though
2017-10-14 22:37 Blocko: i suppose
2017-10-14 22:37 Blocko: but i feel it's a bit too easy
2017-10-14 22:39 juankristal: i changed it a bit
2017-10-14 22:39 juankristal: want me to update it?
2017-10-14 22:39 juankristal: (also updating the bg)
2017-10-14 22:39 Blocko: new BG?
2017-10-14 22:39 Blocko: ooo hold on
2017-10-14 22:40 juankristal: just the one lith sent me
2017-10-14 22:40 juankristal: i sent it to you iirc
2017-10-14 22:40 Blocko: oh that one
2017-10-14 22:41 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1088936 cillia - FIRST [MX]]
2017-10-14 22:41 Blocko: 00:51:026 (51026|3) - should be at 00:51:026 (51026|3) -
2017-10-14 22:41 Blocko: er
2017-10-14 22:41 Blocko: 00:51:026 (51026|3) - should be at 00:50:711 -
2017-10-14 22:42 Blocko: 01:17:711 - uhh did you miss a syllable
2017-10-14 22:44 Blocko: 02:03:500 (123500|3) - not in the same length as 01:12:974 (72974|3) -
2017-10-14 22:45 juankristal: why the first one
2017-10-14 22:45 Blocko: which FIRST one
2017-10-14 22:45 juankristal: HA
2017-10-14 22:45 juankristal: GET IT
2017-10-14 22:45 Blocko: HA
2017-10-14 22:45 Blocko: HA
2017-10-14 22:45 Blocko: AHA
2017-10-14 22:45 juankristal: I MADE THAT JOKE LIKE
2017-10-14 22:45 juankristal: 3590238590 TIMES ALREADY
2017-10-14 22:45 juankristal: HAHA
2017-10-14 22:46 juankristal: both firsts actually
2017-10-14 22:46 juankristal: like why
2017-10-14 22:46 Blocko: uhh
2017-10-14 22:46 juankristal: dont they follow the guitar already
2017-10-14 22:46 Blocko: which note in particular
2017-10-14 22:46 juankristal: 00:51:026 (51026|3) -
2017-10-14 22:46 Blocko: ah that one
2017-10-14 22:46 Blocko: the guitar comes in earlier
2017-10-14 22:46 Blocko: ACTION looks at ez
2017-10-14 22:46 juankristal: you mean nm
2017-10-14 22:47 juankristal: oh wait
2017-10-14 22:47 juankristal: nvm
2017-10-14 22:47 Blocko: ye
2017-10-14 22:47 juankristal: why you didnt suggest that
2017-10-14 22:47 juankristal: for HD
2017-10-14 22:47 juankristal: thats my question
2017-10-14 22:48 Blocko: looked like you were focusing on the vocals more
2017-10-14 22:48 Blocko: that's what i though
2017-10-14 22:48 Blocko: t
2017-10-14 22:48 juankristal: well sure it is but
2017-10-14 22:49 juankristal: idk
2017-10-14 22:49 juankristal: feels weird
2017-10-14 22:50 Blocko: [http://puu.sh/xYopK/9b5546fb1b.jpg hmm]
2017-10-14 22:51 juankristal: mhm?
2017-10-14 22:51 Blocko: my visualization of what it'd look like once you moved that one
2017-10-14 22:52 juankristal: o
2017-10-14 22:52 juankristal: it looks the same for me so
2017-10-14 22:52 juankristal: owob
2017-10-14 22:53 Blocko: wonder what you did for HD on that
2017-10-14 22:54 juankristal: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9319382
2017-10-14 22:54 Blocko: mmm
2017-10-14 22:54 juankristal: i think the HD is fine as it is tbh
2017-10-14 22:54 juankristal: it makes more vocal emphasys
2017-10-14 22:54 Blocko: yeah same
2017-10-14 22:54 juankristal: with the right snaps for the guitar
2017-10-14 22:55 juankristal: it would be weird to play
2017-10-14 22:55 Blocko: wanna update so i can do a (small hitsound check)
2017-10-14 22:55 juankristal: because so many 3 1/2s
2017-10-14 22:55 juankristal: it kinda looks its touch
2017-10-14 22:55 juankristal: is that it for MX?
2017-10-14 22:55 Blocko: pretty much
2017-10-14 22:55 Blocko: unless you answered the last two i suggested
2017-10-14 22:55 Blocko: or rather
2017-10-14 22:55 Blocko: pointed out
2017-10-14 22:56 juankristal: the last two i fixed
2017-10-14 22:57 juankristal: updated
2017-10-14 22:59 Blocko: nice
2017-10-14 23:04 Blocko: something something hitsound time
2017-10-14 23:04 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1088936 cillia - FIRST [MX]]
2017-10-14 23:04 Blocko: 00:51:026 (51026|0) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:04 Blocko: 00:50:553 (50553|1) - auto-normal
2017-10-14 23:05 Blocko: 00:55:447 (55447|0,56079|2) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:06 Blocko: 01:06:658 (66658|0) - auto-normal (you already have a normal-clap in place)
2017-10-14 23:06 Blocko: 01:14:395 (74395|3) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:06 Blocko: 01:16:921 (76921|2) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:07 Blocko: 01:18:184 (78184|1) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:07 Blocko: 01:25:605 (85605|1,86237|0,86868|2) - auto-normal (you already have a normal-clap in place)
2017-10-14 23:08 Blocko: 01:42:184 (102184|2) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:08 Blocko: 01:44:711 (104711|0) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:09 Blocko: 02:04:763 (124763|1,124921|2) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:09 Blocko: 02:07:447 (127447|2) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:09 juankristal: (i am doing them all, just not answering)
2017-10-14 23:10 Blocko: 02:16:132 (136132|1,137395|1) - auto-normal (already has a normal-clap)
2017-10-14 23:10 Blocko: 02:22:605 (142605|0) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:11 Blocko: 02:43:921 (163921|2) - normal-clap
2017-10-14 23:12 Blocko: 02:51:816 (171816|0,172290|0) - auto-normal
2017-10-14 23:12 Blocko: aaaaaaand that's it for mx
2017-10-14 23:12 Blocko: now hd
2017-10-14 23:12 Blocko: u redy
2017-10-14 23:13 juankristal: ye
2017-10-14 23:13 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1124740 cillia - FIRST [HD]]
2017-10-14 23:13 Blocko: 00:39:184 (39184|0) - add long-kick 70%
2017-10-14 23:14 Blocko: 00:44:711 (44711|1,45026|0) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:14 juankristal: shouldnt add in mx
2017-10-14 23:14 juankristal: as well
2017-10-14 23:14 juankristal: ?
2017-10-14 23:14 juankristal: the longkick
2017-10-14 23:14 Blocko: you have that in mx
2017-10-14 23:14 Blocko: not in hd for some reason
2017-10-14 23:14 juankristal: no
2017-10-14 23:14 juankristal: in mx i have fizzycymbal
2017-10-14 23:15 Blocko: 00:39:184 (39184|3) - are you sure
2017-10-14 23:15 juankristal: oh nvm
2017-10-14 23:15 juankristal: i was using HD as reference
2017-10-14 23:15 juankristal: lmao
2017-10-14 23:15 Blocko: lol
2017-10-14 23:15 Blocko: 00:48:974 (48974|1) - normal-clap
2017-10-14 23:15 Blocko: 00:48:658 (48658|2) - auto-whistle
2017-10-14 23:16 Blocko: 00:49:290 (49290|1) - finish note
2017-10-14 23:16 Blocko: er
2017-10-14 23:16 Blocko: add a finish hitsound there
2017-10-14 23:16 Blocko: 00:52:605 (52605|1,52921|0,53237|2) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:16 Blocko: 00:54:342 (54342|1) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:16 Blocko: 00:58:605 (58605|1) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:16 Blocko: 00:58:763 (58763|2) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:17 Blocko: 01:01:290 (61290|0,61447|1) - auto-whistle
2017-10-14 23:17 Blocko: 01:04:763 (64763|3,64921|1,65237|1,65553|1,65868|0,66184|2,66500|1,66816|1) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:18 Blocko: 01:07:290 (67290|2,67447|3,67763|3,68079|3,68395|3,68711|2,69026|1,69342|1) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:18 Blocko: 01:09:816 (69816|2,69974|0,70290|0,70605|3,70921|2,71237|0,71553|3) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:19 Blocko: 01:12:974 (72974|3) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:19 Blocko: 01:12:658 (72658|2) - normal-clap
2017-10-14 23:19 Blocko: 01:14:395 (74395|2,74711|0) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:19 Blocko: 01:16:921 (76921|2,77868|1) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:19 Blocko: 01:18:184 (78184|0,78500|1) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:20 Blocko: 01:20:711 (80711|1,81026|0,81342|3,81658|1) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:20 Blocko: 01:29:553 (89553|0) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:20 Blocko: 01:30:816 (90816|3,91132|1,91447|0,91763|1,92079|3,92868|2,93500|1,94132|2) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:21 Blocko: 01:34:290 (94290|3,94447|0,94605|1) - auto-whistle
2017-10-14 23:22 Blocko: uhh do you get where i'm going with this
2017-10-14 23:22 juankristal: i am hoenstly not paying attention
2017-10-14 23:22 juankristal: i am legit just
2017-10-14 23:22 juankristal: doing whatever you say
2017-10-14 23:22 juankristal: lmao
2017-10-14 23:23 Blocko: basically i'm making you use drum-clap to the vocals
2017-10-14 23:24 Blocko: i was hoping you'd caught on to my suggestions
2017-10-14 23:25 juankristal: i am doing so right now
2017-10-14 23:25 juankristal: i was legit not paying attention because
2017-10-14 23:25 juankristal: i thought you would go over all of it xD
2017-10-14 23:25 juankristal: but i get what you mean
2017-10-14 23:25 juankristal: so i am doing so
2017-10-14 23:25 Blocko: wew
2017-10-14 23:25 Blocko: sweet, imma get some oranges
2017-10-14 23:25 juankristal: nice
2017-10-14 23:27 juankristal: 01:22:132 - should i clap that part
2017-10-14 23:28 Blocko: i'd say yes
2017-10-14 23:28 Blocko: i was wondering why you didn't do that
2017-10-14 23:30 juankristal: so clapped it all
2017-10-14 23:30 Blocko: nice
2017-10-14 23:30 Blocko: i assume you know what to do for nm and ez?
2017-10-14 23:31 juankristal: lemme update hd
2017-10-14 23:31 juankristal: and you tell me
2017-10-14 23:31 Blocko: ye ye
2017-10-14 23:32 juankristal: 02:24:658 (144658|0,144816|1,144974|3,145132|2) - not sure if those and 02:55:132 (175132|3,175290|2,175447|1) - those
2017-10-14 23:32 juankristal: should be normal w
2017-10-14 23:32 juankristal: or auto w
2017-10-14 23:32 juankristal: i mean
2017-10-14 23:32 juankristal: auto w or drum c
2017-10-14 23:34 Blocko: if you wanna be consistent with mx hitsounding, do auto w
2017-10-14 23:34 Blocko: the last one can stay as drum c though
2017-10-14 23:34 Blocko: so it's similar to mx's hitsounding
2017-10-14 23:37 juankristal: i hate hitsounds
2017-10-14 23:37 Blocko: same
2017-10-14 23:38 Blocko: ok uhh
2017-10-14 23:38 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1124740 cillia - FIRST [HD]]
2017-10-14 23:38 Blocko: 01:45:974 (105974|3) - auto-normal
2017-10-14 23:39 Blocko: 01:57:026 (117026|0,117184|1) - switch these notes around so the drum-clap comes first
2017-10-14 23:40 Blocko: 01:59:553 (119553|2,119711|0) - same
2017-10-14 23:40 Blocko: 02:01:447 (121447|3) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:40 juankristal: wut
2017-10-14 23:40 Blocko: 02:01:605 (121605|0,121921|3,122237|1) - auto-normal
2017-10-14 23:40 Blocko: i didn't think you were using drum-clap and normal-clap together
2017-10-14 23:40 juankristal: no
2017-10-14 23:40 juankristal: i mean the
2017-10-14 23:41 juankristal: okey
2017-10-14 23:41 juankristal: i get what you mean
2017-10-14 23:41 juankristal: nvm
2017-10-14 23:41 Blocko: 01:12:658 (72658|1) - auto-normal
2017-10-14 23:41 Blocko: 02:03:184 (123184|1) - normal-clap
2017-10-14 23:42 Blocko: 02:20:079 (140079|2) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:42 Blocko: 02:33:184 (153184|3,153816|1) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:42 Blocko: 02:50:395 (170395|3) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:43 Blocko: 02:59:079 (179079|2) - crashL 70%
2017-10-14 23:43 Blocko: or an auto-finish
2017-10-14 23:44 Blocko: (could turn that crashL on MX to an auto-finish too)
2017-10-14 23:45 juankristal: done that
2017-10-14 23:45 juankristal: should i update the nm
2017-10-14 23:46 Blocko: update the NM?
2017-10-14 23:47 juankristal: yes
2017-10-14 23:47 juankristal: i did the same thing to nm
2017-10-14 23:47 juankristal: so i just updated
2017-10-14 23:47 Blocko: ah noice
2017-10-14 23:47 juankristal: only remains the EZ
2017-10-14 23:48 juankristal: which i think i dont have to do the same
2017-10-14 23:48 juankristal: but idk
2017-10-14 23:48 Blocko: oo lemme look at nm first xd
2017-10-14 23:48 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1149572 cillia - FIRST [Jinjin's NM]]
2017-10-14 23:50 Blocko: 00:18:974 - to 00:39:184 - make all vocal LNs have drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:50 Blocko: 00:44:237 (44237|2) - needs fizzy-cymbal
2017-10-14 23:50 Blocko: 00:49:290 (49290|0) - auto-finish
2017-10-14 23:51 Blocko: 00:51:026 (51026|2,53553|2) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:51 Blocko: 00:54:342 (54342|2) - auto-finish
2017-10-14 23:51 juankristal: 00:39:184 (39184|2) -
2017-10-14 23:51 Blocko: 00:56:079 (56079|1,56395|0) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:52 Blocko: 01:06:658 (66658|2) - auto-normal
2017-10-14 23:52 Blocko: 01:07:447 (67447|1) - auto-normal
2017-10-14 23:54 Blocko: 01:52:132 (112132|0) - auto-normal
2017-10-14 23:54 Blocko: 01:54:974 (114974|2) - auto-normal
2017-10-14 23:54 Blocko: 02:03:184 (123184|0) - auto-normal
2017-10-14 23:54 Blocko: 02:07:447 (127447|3) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:55 Blocko: 02:33:184 (153184|0,153500|1,153816|3) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:56 Blocko: 02:45:342 (165342|3) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:56 Blocko: that's it for nm
2017-10-14 23:56 juankristal: nice
2017-10-14 23:57 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1124739 cillia - FIRST [EZ]]
2017-10-14 23:57 Blocko: 00:44:711 (44711|2) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:57 Blocko: 00:44:237 (44237|0) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:57 Blocko: 00:54:342 (54342|1,54816|0) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:57 Blocko: 00:59:395 (59395|3) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:58 Blocko: 01:13:290 (73290|1) - should have a crash hitsound (auto-finish)
2017-10-14 23:58 Blocko: 01:34:763 (94763|0) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:58 Blocko: 01:39:816 (99816|1) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:59 Blocko: 01:49:921 (109921|2) - drum-clap
2017-10-14 23:59 Blocko: 02:33:184 (153184|1,153816|0) - drum-clap
2017-10-15 00:00 Blocko: 02:55:605 (175605|0) - crashL 70%
2017-10-15 00:00 Blocko: aaaaaaaaaand that's it for ez
2017-10-15 00:00 Blocko: update again when u done bls
2017-10-15 00:00 juankristal: as
2017-10-15 00:01 juankristal: alright
2017-10-15 00:01 juankristal: updated
2017-10-15 00:02 Blocko: one last thing for the couple of diffs
2017-10-15 00:02 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1149572 cillia - FIRST [Jinjin's NM]]
2017-10-15 00:03 Blocko: 02:44:079 - which notes should have an increase in volume?
2017-10-15 00:04 juankristal: i think i might just remove those
2017-10-15 00:04 juankristal: green lines
2017-10-15 00:04 juankristal: in both ez and nm
2017-10-15 00:04 juankristal: because its not relevant
2017-10-15 00:04 juankristal: because almost no notes
2017-10-15 00:04 juankristal: no impact
2017-10-15 00:04 Blocko: mmm alright
2017-10-15 00:05 juankristal: anyway done that
2017-10-15 00:05 Blocko: what about hd and mx?
2017-10-15 00:05 juankristal: i keep it on those
2017-10-15 00:05 juankristal: because they are relevant
2017-10-15 00:05 juankristal: the effect i wanted to create is because HD and MX
2017-10-15 00:05 juankristal: i just copied for EZ and NM for consistency
2017-10-15 00:05 juankristal: but its irrelevant for those diffs
2017-10-15 00:05 Blocko: mmm
2017-10-15 00:06 juankristal: given the hitsounds goes loud clap - drum clap - louder
2017-10-15 00:06 juankristal: etc
2017-10-15 00:06 Blocko: in any case i think the timings can be placed better
2017-10-15 00:06 juankristal: i dont mind changing them
2017-10-15 00:06 Blocko: e.g. 02:44:553 - 74%, 02:44:868 - 77%, 02:45:184 - 80%, 02:45:658 - 70%
2017-10-15 00:07 juankristal: yeah
2017-10-15 00:08 juankristal: done
2017-10-15 00:08 juankristal: and updated
2017-10-15 00:08 Blocko: for MX too?
2017-10-15 00:09 juankristal: y
2017-10-15 00:09 Blocko: one last last last last LAST thing
2017-10-15 00:09 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1149572 cillia - FIRST [Jinjin's NM]]
2017-10-15 00:09 Blocko: are you sure you wanna keep those storyboard samples in the diff
2017-10-15 00:10 juankristal: i mean
2017-10-15 00:12 Blocko: i don't think you should use samples in the storyboard unless you have a storyboard
2017-10-15 00:12 juankristal: i blame hitsound copier
2017-10-15 00:12 juankristal: do you really think i would ever do sb hitsounds
2017-10-15 00:12 juankristal: i cant even do not sb hitsounds
2017-10-15 00:12 Blocko: lmao
2017-10-15 00:13 juankristal: i think i deleted some
2017-10-15 00:13 juankristal: not all
2017-10-15 00:13 Blocko: why not all?
2017-10-15 00:13 juankristal: idk
2017-10-15 00:13 juankristal: they sometimes sound fine
2017-10-15 00:14 juankristal: i am just deleting all fuck it
2017-10-15 00:15 juankristal: done
2017-10-15 00:15 juankristal: do i need to change anything hitsound wise though
2017-10-15 00:15 juankristal: if i remove them
2017-10-15 00:15 Blocko: nah
2017-10-15 00:16 Blocko: hitsounds have no 5ms delay, everything over 100ms, everything used
2017-10-15 00:16 juankristal: cool
2017-10-15 00:16 juankristal: updated
2017-10-15 00:17 Blocko: kinda odd hp spread you have there
2017-10-15 00:17 Blocko: 6 > 7 > 7 > 8.5
2017-10-15 00:18 juankristal: 7-7.5-8-8.5 sounds fine?
2017-10-15 00:19 juankristal: or 6-7-8-8.5
2017-10-15 00:19 Blocko: 7 - 7.5 - 8 - 8.5 looks good
2017-10-15 00:19 Blocko: od is good too
2017-10-15 00:20 juankristal: updated then
2017-10-15 00:23 Blocko: uhh is this a random timing point on NM and HD 02:04:526 -
2017-10-15 00:23 Blocko: how do you feel with all these constant updates i'm asking you to do
2017-10-15 00:24 Blocko: oh it's an actual timing point
2017-10-15 00:24 Blocko: could move that to 02:04:605 - on NM, HD and MX
2017-10-15 00:25 juankristal: i feel like killing myself thanks
2017-10-15 00:25 juankristal: actually not really
2017-10-15 00:25 juankristal: i am autopilot mode atm
2017-10-15 00:25 Blocko: wew
2017-10-15 00:25 juankristal: is there anything else
2017-10-15 00:25 Blocko: check aimod
2017-10-15 00:25 juankristal: or you want me to flood my userpage with updates :^)
2017-10-15 00:25 Blocko: and yes
2017-10-15 00:26 juankristal: https://puu.sh/xYrFw/ef5b76006f.png
2017-10-15 00:26 juankristal: you arent that far away
2017-10-15 00:26 juankristal: More than 1/3 of the map is Kiai time. Consider reducing this.
2017-10-15 00:26 juankristal: fuck off aimod
2017-10-15 00:26 Blocko: kek
2017-10-15 00:26 Blocko: dunno why it said that
2017-10-15 00:26 juankristal: because NM doesnt have the intro
2017-10-15 00:26 juankristal: so its actually more than 1/3 of it
2017-10-15 00:26 Blocko: ah
2017-10-15 00:26 Blocko: well then
2017-10-15 00:28 juankristal: updated
2017-10-15 00:29 Blocko: one final thing
2017-10-15 00:29 Blocko: are you ready
2017-10-15 00:30 juankristal: no
2017-10-15 00:30 juankristal: :^)
2017-10-15 00:30 Blocko: oh ok
2017-10-15 00:30 juankristal: lemme actually replay mx
2017-10-15 00:30 Blocko: take your time
2017-10-15 00:30 Blocko: meanwhile imma prepare my post

Did some general clean-up and fixed some slight pattern inconsistencies, updated BG and tinkered with hitsounds, should be much cleaner now.

FIRST, congratulations on getting your map (named FIRST) qualified for the very FIRST time! Lastly, best of luck getting your FIRST set ranked!

Litharrale wrote:

There's a bug with this map where all the notes are really long for some reason? anyone know what causes this?

Niks wrote:

This is a just my question.
One part is mirror pattern
01:26:711 - ~ 01:29:553 - and
02:17:237 - ~ 02:20:079 -

but here note is not mirror pattern
01:28:132 (88132|1) - and 02:18:658 (138658|3) -
01:28:605 (88605|1) - and 02:19:132 (139132|1) -
:thinking:

Krfawy wrote:

OMIGU, congratulations! I am so proud of you Juan! >3<