2017-08-15 00:27 Blocko: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1088936 cillia - FIRST]
2017-08-15 00:27 Blocko: not gonna bubble until i think it's okay "_>"
2017-08-15 00:27 juankristal: sure
2017-08-15 00:28 Blocko: aight
2017-08-15 00:28 Blocko: patterns first hitsounds later
2017-08-15 00:28 Blocko: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1088936 cillia - FIRST [MX]]
2017-08-15 00:29 juankristal: o7
2017-08-15 00:29 Blocko: 00:18:974 - so is this section a mix of guitar riffs and vocal
2017-08-15 00:29 Blocko: kinda hard to differentiate based by pitch but well
2017-08-15 00:30 juankristal: yes
2017-08-15 00:30 juankristal: its kinda hard because neither the guitar nor the voice are really consistent
2017-08-15 00:31 juankristal: so you dont really have accentuation for any of them really
2017-08-15 00:31 juankristal: only happens to be accentuated when both sounds take place and being it fairly inconsistent makes it hard to differentiate
2017-08-15 00:32 Blocko: thinking you could accentuate them a bit more
2017-08-15 00:32 Blocko: like separating the vocal on one side and guitar on the other at some times but not all the time
2017-08-15 00:32 Blocko: e.g. 00:19:132 (19132|1,19290|0,19447|2) - rearrange to 1,2,1
2017-08-15 00:32 juankristal: mmmh
2017-08-15 00:33 Blocko: kinda like what you did here 00:21:184 -
2017-08-15 00:33 juankristal: yeah, I see that being a good thing
2017-08-15 00:33 juankristal: when stuff gets like, mixed
2017-08-15 00:34 juankristal: having more separated patterns
2017-08-15 00:34 juankristal: 00:29:553 (29553|0) - I think that note has to be deleted now that I look at it
2017-08-15 00:34 Blocko: oh nice catch
2017-08-15 00:35 juankristal: is it me or the pitch is completely reversed
2017-08-15 00:35 juankristal: in here 00:29:553 -
2017-08-15 00:35 Blocko: looks like it actually
2017-08-15 00:36 juankristal: like 00:29:553 (29553|3) - this one being lower than 00:30:184 (30184|0) -
2017-08-15 00:36 Blocko: actually wait it sounds right
2017-08-15 00:36 Blocko: cuz 00:29:553 (29553|3) - has a higher pitch
2017-08-15 00:37 juankristal: o
2017-08-15 00:37 juankristal: ye
2017-08-15 00:37 juankristal: mb
2017-08-15 00:37 Blocko: then it increases octave at 00:30:342
2017-08-15 00:37 Blocko: ye
2017-08-15 00:38 Blocko: 00:22:290 (22290|0,22605|2,22763|0,22921|2,23237|0) - how do you feel about switching these notes by column for better differentiation
2017-08-15 00:38 Blocko: or uhh so it's easier to tell which note is following which sound
2017-08-15 00:38 Blocko: idk i suck at words
2017-08-15 00:39 juankristal: reason why that is like it is
2017-08-15 00:39 juankristal: 00:22:447 (22447|1,23079|1,23711|1) -
2017-08-15 00:39 juankristal: so having the hihat on the same column all the time
2017-08-15 00:40 Blocko: i see
2017-08-15 00:40 juankristal: I think 00:22:447 (22447|1,22605|2,22921|2,23079|1) - ctrl+h here tho
2017-08-15 00:40 juankristal: shouldnt be bad
2017-08-15 00:40 juankristal: not that the hihat thing is really that consistent anyways
2017-08-15 00:40 Blocko: i was about to ask you that
2017-08-15 00:41 juankristal: it probably fits well with that ctrl+h
2017-08-15 00:41 juankristal: follows the 00:19:921 (19921|1,20553|1) - 2 note hihat
2017-08-15 00:41 juankristal: 00:22:447 (22447|2,23079|2) - same
2017-08-15 00:41 juankristal: so it actually even feels slightly more consistent
2017-08-15 00:41 Blocko: ye ye
2017-08-15 00:43 Blocko: thinking these notes could be 1 whole note 00:32:553 (32553|0,32868|2,33026|0) - considering the synth doesn't really change in pitch
2017-08-15 00:44 juankristal: 00:32:553 (32553|0,32711|3,33026|1,33184|2,33342|1,33500|2,33658|1,33816|2,33974|0) - that one is the synth
2017-08-15 00:45 Blocko: ah oke
2017-08-15 00:45 Blocko: 00:34:132 - missing one note here
2017-08-15 00:45 juankristal: 00:32:868 (32868|2) - the one here I think its a really low "uru"
2017-08-15 00:45 juankristal: or smoething like that in vocal
2017-08-15 00:45 Blocko: yureru
2017-08-15 00:46 juankristal: got that one
2017-08-15 00:46 juankristal: the missing on
2017-08-15 00:46 Blocko: 00:35:395 (35395|3,35553|2) - should be drum-clap
2017-08-15 00:47 juankristal: only this one 00:35:553 (35553|2) - I think
2017-08-15 00:48 Blocko: ah right
2017-08-15 00:48 Blocko: 00:39:500 (39500|0) - wondering why this is a whole note instead of two
2017-08-15 00:48 juankristal: whole note instead of two?
2017-08-15 00:48 Blocko: instead of two 1/2 lns i mean
2017-08-15 00:48 Blocko: cuz e-guitar changes pitch
2017-08-15 00:49 juankristal: I use it sort of like a cooldown section
2017-08-15 00:49 juankristal: also, I dont think its that noticeable
2017-08-15 00:49 juankristal: if anything, this one is clearer 00:42:184 -
2017-08-15 00:49 juankristal: and I also dont use it
2017-08-15 00:49 Blocko: fair enough
2017-08-15 00:49 Blocko: 00:39:026 - thinking you could add a ln here but it might reduce the impact on that chord
2017-08-15 00:50 juankristal: I think its a bit similar to this one 00:37:447 (37447|0,37447|2) -
2017-08-15 00:50 juankristal: there is indeed that synth sound in the middle
2017-08-15 00:50 juankristal: I guess I can do them both
2017-08-15 00:50 Blocko: oke
2017-08-15 00:52 juankristal: okey, sorted that one out
2017-08-15 00:53 Blocko: 00:44:237 (44237|0) - could split this note up to 2 to follow that guitar more
2017-08-15 00:55 juankristal: should be 00:44:711 - here right
2017-08-15 00:55 Blocko: yep
2017-08-15 00:55 juankristal: gotchu
2017-08-15 00:57 Blocko: 00:50:395 (50395|2) - should start at 00:50:237 - and 00:51:026 (51026|3) - should start at 00:50:711 -
2017-08-15 00:59 juankristal: i hate those guitar snaps
2017-08-15 00:59 juankristal: I mean, they are so like unhearable
2017-08-15 00:59 juankristal: XD
2017-08-15 01:00 Blocko: ripperoni
2017-08-15 01:00 Blocko: actually shouldn't this 00:46:290 (46290|3) - start at 00:46:132 -
2017-08-15 01:01 juankristal: I was waiting for you to ask that
2017-08-15 01:01 juankristal: lmao
2017-08-15 01:01 juankristal: because I was wondering the same
2017-08-15 01:01 juankristal: thing is I think it would be a bit unintuitive to hear
2017-08-15 01:01 juankristal: *play
2017-08-15 01:03 juankristal: the way I see it is that the voice its a bit extended compared to the rest
2017-08-15 01:03 Blocko: hm
2017-08-15 01:03 juankristal: and even tho the long LNs are following the guitar
2017-08-15 01:03 juankristal: it feels a bit more intuitive to get them as if they were vocals
2017-08-15 01:03 juankristal: so hitting the guitar snap as it is right now feels more intuitive
2017-08-15 01:03 juankristal: even tho you arent actually hitting it correctly
2017-08-15 01:04 juankristal: if you are really picky I think all the 1/2 beats actually have guitar pitch changes
2017-08-15 01:04 juankristal: like here 00:45:658 - it sounds as a trill 4-1-4-1
2017-08-15 01:05 Blocko: i see
2017-08-15 01:05 Blocko: to me it sounded like you decided to highlight the vocal more but
2017-08-15 01:05 Blocko: it still works
2017-08-15 01:06 juankristal: #closeenough
2017-08-15 01:06 Blocko: lul
2017-08-15 01:07 Blocko: 01:01:132 (61132|0,61290|3,61447|3,61605|0) - ctrl + H so the vocal notes (01:00:816 (60816|2) - ) follow through with pitch
2017-08-15 01:07 Blocko: actually i'm not sure how you'd place those hi-hats01:01:290 (61290|3,61447|3) -
2017-08-15 01:08 juankristal: mhm?
2017-08-15 01:08 juankristal: what you mean about the hihats
2017-08-15 01:08 juankristal: the pitch change is fine tho, I take it
2017-08-15 01:09 Blocko: those little 1/4 lns
2017-08-15 01:09 juankristal: yeah, whats the thing with them?
2017-08-15 01:09 juankristal: they are like, the same thing as 00:58:763 - here
2017-08-15 01:09 juankristal: when you hear that uhh
2017-08-15 01:09 juankristal: I think its a xylophone? lmfao
2017-08-15 01:09 juankristal: I actually dont know
2017-08-15 01:09 juankristal: but there is a sound there
2017-08-15 01:09 juankristal: and that sound is the trigger for 1/4 lns
2017-08-15 01:10 Blocko: no it's just im not sure how you'd place them if you did ctrl + h
2017-08-15 01:10 juankristal: oh
2017-08-15 01:10 juankristal: I think leaving them on 1 is alright
2017-08-15 01:10 Blocko: cuz they'd be at the same column with a long ln
2017-08-15 01:10 Blocko: er
2017-08-15 01:10 Blocko: same side
2017-08-15 01:10 juankristal: oh
2017-08-15 01:10 juankristal: I get what you mean now
2017-08-15 01:10 juankristal: I mean, considering you have 01:01:921 (61921|0,62079|0,62237|0) - afterwards
2017-08-15 01:11 Blocko: i suppose
2017-08-15 01:11 juankristal: and they are only 2 as well
2017-08-15 01:12 Blocko: fairs
2017-08-15 01:13 Blocko: 01:04:447 (64447|0,64447|1,64447|3,64684|3,64684|2,64684|0) - well at least this isn't doppelganger
2017-08-15 01:14 juankristal: jej
2017-08-15 01:14 Blocko: jej
2017-08-15 01:14 Blocko: 01:04:921 (64921|1,65079|3,65237|1,65395|3) - kinda wondering what these lns are following
2017-08-15 01:15 juankristal: I think I used to hear a guitar there
2017-08-15 01:15 juankristal: like, I am betting I am following the guitar
2017-08-15 01:15 juankristal: if there is actually no guitar well then fuck
2017-08-15 01:15 Blocko: there is
2017-08-15 01:15 Blocko: it just sounded kinda faint
2017-08-15 01:15 juankristal: I just feel this is the part where weird LNs should take place
2017-08-15 01:16 juankristal: and keeping the pace of them is sort of necesary
2017-08-15 01:16 juankristal: which is the main reasons why I would rather keep those }
2017-08-15 01:17 Blocko: oke then
2017-08-15 01:17 Blocko: i'd keep them too tbh
2017-08-15 01:17 Blocko: 01:12:026 (72026|3) - owo whats this short ln
2017-08-15 01:19 juankristal: release timing shenanigans
2017-08-15 01:19 juankristal: I guess I can just make it a normal note
2017-08-15 01:19 Blocko: lul
2017-08-15 01:19 juankristal: it probably has a reason
2017-08-15 01:19 juankristal: because I have it on the end too
2017-08-15 01:19 Blocko: hm
2017-08-15 01:19 juankristal: I just cant really see it other than... aesthetics'
2017-08-15 01:19 juankristal: if that even looks like that
2017-08-15 01:20 juankristal: still keeps a 1/2 distance with the other release, cant really make it a 1/2 ln either
2017-08-15 01:20 juankristal: so its a normal note, an easy release or that owo
2017-08-15 01:20 Blocko: i assumed you kept it for the crash and afterwards for some sort of consistency with the end
2017-08-15 01:21 juankristal: kinda like 01:09:737 -
2017-08-15 01:21 juankristal: might e
2017-08-15 01:21 juankristal: be
2017-08-15 01:21 Blocko: oh i thought you were being artsy there
2017-08-15 01:21 Blocko: gerp
2017-08-15 01:23 Blocko: 01:13:921 (73921|3,73921|1,74395|3) - switch notes by column then 01:14:079 (74079|0) - move to 2?
2017-08-15 01:25 juankristal: uuuh
2017-08-15 01:25 juankristal: can you print that
2017-08-15 01:25 juankristal: I dont think I catched
2017-08-15 01:25 Blocko: 01:13:921 (73921|3,73921|1,74395|3) - switch notes by column then 01:14:079 (74079|0) - move to 2?
2017-08-15 01:27 juankristal: i meant
2017-08-15 01:27 juankristal: picture
2017-08-15 01:27 juankristal: fuck
2017-08-15 01:29 Blocko: huh
2017-08-15 01:30 Blocko: 01:13:921 - rearrange this to
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8848365 ?
2017-08-15 01:30 juankristal: but I dont really see why really
2017-08-15 01:31 juankristal: I think rythm is quite complex over there and having the jack in here 01:13:763 - to be with a LN as well will just be a bit spiky compared to the rest
2017-08-15 01:31 juankristal: like, its unnecesarilly challenging
2017-08-15 01:31 Blocko: better followup on e-guitar pitch 01:12:026 (72026|1,73290|2,73526|2,73763|2) - and vocal 01:13:290 (73290|0,73605|0,74079|1,74237|2) -
2017-08-15 01:32 Blocko: oh that's a fair point
2017-08-15 01:33 Blocko: well you can leave it as is unless you wanna be more strict with the pitch
2017-08-15 01:34 juankristal: I guess I will keep it as it is
2017-08-15 01:34 Blocko: fairs
2017-08-15 01:34 juankristal: might testplay it a couple times tomorrow or something
2017-08-15 01:34 juankristal: and see if its actually that harsh as I think it would be
2017-08-15 01:34 Blocko: sounds like a plan
2017-08-15 01:36 juankristal: so
2017-08-15 01:36 Blocko: 01:25:290 - midway through the ln wall i'm wondering why you decided to put jumps on drum snares instead of crashes
2017-08-15 01:38 juankristal: about the drums instead of crashes
2017-08-15 01:38 juankristal: its mostly because the guitar sounds quite strong there
2017-08-15 01:39 juankristal: and then into the following ones it doesnt sound as strong
2017-08-15 01:39 juankristal: so used drums instead which sounds a bit harder imo
2017-08-15 01:39 juankristal: like idk, I see like the wall as a guitar
2017-08-15 01:39 juankristal: so as it builds up, it builds up with the guitar
2017-08-15 01:39 Blocko: i like the way you put that lol
2017-08-15 01:40 juankristal: and once it gets full wall mode
2017-08-15 01:40 Blocko: yeah the crashes didn't really seem to catch on
2017-08-15 01:40 juankristal: it just follows the harder sound