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-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
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-yuo-
Thanks for the feedback.

TheMadCharles wrote:

"I think pure white would be too much "In your face" color"
Yes, ok. I'll go with a more yellowed colour.

TheMadCharles wrote:

"First of all, found a way to convert HD to SD in a fast way: https://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/commen ... nt_use_hd/
EDIT1: In the reddit post, can you confirm this comment?"
Yes, I have already set up an automated Photoshop / Mac script that converts HD files to SD files. I have no problem converting to SD.
The reason why it's so long is that if i change a HD file, I'll need to change the SD file too, which can create problems and conflicts, and is also hard to handle. I'm working on all the HD files first, then after the skin completely works in HD, I'll convert it to SD.

TheMadCharles wrote:

So I used this with 16-9 aspect ratio, 90% opacity ring & dot circles as well as simplified spinner

- Speaking of that simplified spinner because it is darker, it took more time than normal for me to realize that I had to spin
- The Miss (I think it was mentioned before) should have an alternative with just the X fading out, cuz that glow is distracting

Pretty sure I mentioned this as well, if you are targeting this skin for pro players, there should a variety of customization available. While I know it is WIP, hitbursts wouble be a nice addition. Huge/Med/Small "100" In the middle/On top and not just dots

Also, had to put 26 in hitcircle offset cuz 2 dots in 2-digit numbers
Thanks for the info, I have been considering options for hitbursts. But since they are animated, they will take longer to make. Sorry for waits... As for the other points, I'll work on them. They'll be implemented if they work well.

TheMadCharles wrote:

EDIT2: What is the font that you use for this skin?
'Futura, for everything and Hall Fetica for the ranking letters. I might change some fonts in the future.

Thanks alot for the update! (no one has been replying here for a long time so i was kinda getting lost as to what was happening)
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
-------------------ME START WORKING-------------------

UPDATED 22 APR
I plan to upload a new developer update after turning some menu sounds and animating hit bursts. This will add new elements such as sounds and other innovations but won't be as debugged. Some minor elements might be bugged but should be playable.. alignment issues and other stuff from community suggestions probs won't be done too .


stuff:

ADDED SHADOWS for clarity to↓ ↓ for ppl who use less bg dim
countdown
warning arrow
#spinner [not working] HELP MEEE!!! p/5925840
lifebar and score

ADDED SOUNDS:
typing (delete not yet)
Main Menu
Select Diffuculty
Section Fail / Pass
Pause / Fail
Spinner

22 apr:
Tuned some sounds and shortened main menu sounds
Added and tuned applause to ranking

NOTE TO SELF : tune the vol and maybe length of spinner reward thing and change slidertick sound to a more suited one other than the bells


todo:
back
idk.. switches?
Menu back

ADDED MISC:
Score, Song Pie and Accuracy are now dimmed during gameplay to increase focus on gameplay.
#Target and ScoreV2 mods added. [fix colour, too bright]

MISC LOG
working on new hitbursts



archived content
Implemented a test version of the new hit bursts - not animated.
They grab way to much attention, and take way too long to recognise and fully understand in the mind. When one appears, you think 'whats that?', go look at it, and miss the next note.

Fixed the 'too flashy' issue by reducing the miss to a single-lined cross, and decreased the opacity of 50 and 100 bursts in gameplay down to 50%. It's still too flashy though, or maybe conflicting with the hit circles since these are also a 'ring' with 'something inside'

It's not as flashy as before when they where 100% bright, but i still feel the old 'dots' responded better. Maybe some animations that would make the bursts easier to recognise would work.

Some ideas i have that might fix things:
Add a quick 'Zoom In' (up FROM the middle, or down from a large size then TO the middle) and then slightly rotate the shape slowly, until it fades out, keeping the dot in the middle stationary and fading out.
Using only the triangle and not the diamond for hit 100. This might be the cause of the recognition issues because remembering five different shapes (tri, tri with dot, diamond, diamond with dot, cross) are taking memory. A diamond is also very loosely related to a warning, thus the user needs to remember what it means in this context, which is not good. Everyday standards should be used for faster perception, as one already knows what they relate to.

Just updated them, they are now rounded to match rounded style gameplay and colour filled for easier recognition (no more outline style, like a legit shape with black dot in middle)

Since I'm so tired I can't test this properly now so I'll come back later

REFERENCE TO SUGGESTED STUFF:

REPLY TO THE MASSIVE ESSAYS
You might want to open this and the previous page in two windows so you can refer between them.

Will the idea be implemented?
- deny / neutral [removed]
+ accept
= think and experiment - may not appear
# accept, low priority
[?] - have looked into
FINISHED SUGGESTED FIXES AND ADDITIONS FROM COMMUNITY:
Found out that 'sc' is not misaligned
#Enclosed the back button into a box and labeled it 'SEL' in ranking screen. Looks alright.. //PATCH FOR 21:9 and 16:9. 16:10 OK

CONSIDERED WIP / WILL DO SUGGESTED FIXES AND ADDITIONS FROM COMMUNITY:[notice]
Add scoreboard numbers
Polish more vibrant combo colours
Sky miss in the works. Animation being worked on.

TheMadCharles
Select
= SS song cards are misaligned. I'll try fix, but last time i realised the thumbnail actually moves down about 2 px when clicked onto

Gameplay
= Miss is based on sky, but its edited. I find bigger miss elements more alerting and make me fix myself up faster, but might add options.
# Reverse arrows are a good idea.
= Dots are included, Bigger numbers were a distraction when prototyped.
= Numbered hitbursts conflict with the circle numbers. They also take longer for your brain to read
+ Havent skinned leaderboard numbers yet. Will do.
= All green combo colours make it hard to look for the next circle after a colour combo. (edit: I gonna try change them to more vibrant ones)

Ranking
[=] I'll look into the "SC" alignment. Could be an illusion tho. [RESOLVED↑]
[=] Havent tried labelling back button on song select, but i'll see how it turns out
Firinael
= hard to fix… “SS song cards are misaligned. I'll try fix, but last time i realised the thumbnail actually moves down about 2 px when clicked onto”
- Back button doesn’t have a mouse over image. It cant react to mouse over. Blue line above back is actually from the mode image. The song select is a complicated structure.
- —
= “Miss is based on sky, but its edited. I find bigger miss elements more alerting and make me fix myself up faster, but might add options.”
= Yes, thanks. Bigger dots and numbers also looked weird during prototyping.
= Hitbursts were trouble for me too. I found it hard to balance visibility, concentration and the time the mind takes to read it. Bigger dots were too vibrant, smaller dots were hard to see and left you trying to see them instead of playing, and, numbers conflict with the circle numbers subconsciously.
- —
[=] “I'll look into the "SC" alignment. Could be an illusion tho.” [RESOLVED↑]
- —
= Blue line is misaligned and discoloured because its actually part of the mode image. I’ll try align it again, but i had alot of trouble doing that.
=# I’ll see into the followpoints… but do you have any more detail on the problem? I’ll try the new hit circle as a low priority.


Check back soon for more news!


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h3oCharles
1,488 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
Nice! Also, if you are doing those hitbursts, keep the old ones in extras plz
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Of course!
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Hello! just a quick bump...

I need some extra help and opinions on the hit bursts... Any suggestions? They would be really helpful!
See the post above to see my notes.'

Not to mention, the spinner too... no help lately
rabbiteeth
3 posts
Joined January 2017
rabbiteeth
Bit hard for me to see this as being a pro skin, considering all the effects and distracting lights and such. Though, I'd say the skin's really great for more casual players! It looks really good so far! Cant wait to see the other colors come out, haha. Good work, dude.

(also, sorry if i'm using the forum wrong or something. Not used to this. )

Edit: Just wanted to add that I really like your skins and such!
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Thanks,

Which parts are too distracting? I know the miss is, but anything else? and no, you're not using the wrong forum. don't worry about that ;)

Thanks for the like!
h3oCharles
1,488 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
hitbursts, huh? Good for colorblindness I guess cuz each type has a single shape. I don't like having 100 and 100k as 2 separate sprites. For me is distracting cuz when I have this I focus on where did I shot a 100k instead of gameplay. And I'd rather swap dots in normal's and katu's

While I'm here, for the spinner, try to integrate the- no wait, you already done that... and you don't want old-style spinner... I'm pretty sure making a glow is the only thing that you can do IMO

EDIT1 Just looked at mania, that scorebar is waaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooo high... like, it's outta there!
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-

TheMadCharles wrote:

hitbursts, huh? Good for colorblindness I guess cuz each type has a single shape. I don't like having 100 and 100k as 2 separate sprites. For me is distracting cuz when I have this I focus on where did I shot a 100k instead of gameplay. And I'd rather swap dots in normal's and katu's

While I'm here, for the spinner, try to integrate the- no wait, you already done that... and you don't want old-style spinner... I'm pretty sure making a glow is the only thing that you can do IMO

EDIT1 Just looked at mania, that scorebar is waaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooo high... like, it's outta there!
Well yeh... thanks for the opinion

but imo the different shapes are annoying. (see my paragraph of stuff under the new mockups images)

btw screenshot mania lifebar? it doesn't look too far off.. its just under the acc numbers for me. *and mania not skinned yet

And finally, thanks for trying to help the spinner! i might just need to leave that as-is
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
-------------------UPDATE b23-4 IS HERE!-------------------


WARNING
This is a fairly stable developer update for feedback purposes, I haven't fixed much problems that the community have found yet and some may still persist, the setup and preferences folder may not work as fluently too, but it's stable enough to use as a proper skin so should be all G.
h3oCharles
1,488 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
Right before I opened the skin folder...
first of all, eww, Fade In
and second, where did the customization folder go?
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-

TheMadCharles wrote:

Right before I opened the skin folder...
first of all, eww, Fade In
and second, where did the customization folder go?
ummm Explain further? i dont get it

and i'm pretty sure customisation folder is still thereoh wait, it isn't... rip

ok fix coming soon, but what do you mean by fade in?
h3oCharles
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Joined July 2016
h3oCharles

-yuo- wrote:

ok fix coming soon, but what do you mean by fade in?
It's out of place with the other mod icons
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Oh that, yeh its a placeholder from musicludo.... its there so i know the mod initials...
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
-------------------UPDATE b29-4 IS HERE! NOW WITH STANDARD DEFENITION!!-------------------


WARNING
This is a fairly stable developer update for feedback purposes, I haven't fixed much problems that the community have found yet and some may still persist, the setup and preferences folder may not work as fluently too, but it's stable enough to use as a proper skin so should be all G.
29 APR 2017 [b29-4]
  • Disappearing preferences folder has been found. ...it ran away again.... download separately on first post.
    Dormant back sound has been woken up and tuned
    STANDARD DEFENITION IS HERE!

    and no, i'm not trying to release a new version every 23rd and 29th...

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h3oCharles
1,488 posts
Joined July 2016
h3oCharles
SD!!! FeelsGoodMan

123
456
789

Looking at the first post, I think the color #3 should be purple. Also what are the color codes you plan to use?
Perhaps add another variant of hitbursts - blur out only? that spinning 50 can be distracting
And just got inspired by the skinning competition, maybe somehow cover the osu!cookie with a Nightgate logo?
Eww, another misalignment - ranking title and grade - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7952941
and the same screenshot - there's a little dot in the back button that I don't think there should be

omg more stuff

pause-hover | pause-click-continue/retry/back <-- you should skin those, pretty self-explanatory stuff
it always bothered me how slider ball is the same color as slider border and it's not touching the borders. Possibly a thing that I just got used to
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-

TheMadCharles wrote:

SD!!! FeelsGoodMan
Yassssssssss

123
456
789

Looking at the first post, I think the color #3 should be purple. Also what are the color codes you plan to use?
It is purple... Try viewing on a more higher quality display... as this certain purple is hard for some screens to reproduce properly... most mainstream phone displays are good.
I'm working atm so i'll give the hex codes soon.

Here are the hex codes:
⬛︎#FC2738------⬛︎#FD6C24------⬛︎#FADE4D------⬛︎#2BFDA3------⬛︎#24D3FD------⬛︎#135DFB------⬛︎#6F24FA------⬛︎#FEBAFD------⬛︎#FEEBCF--

Perhaps add another variant of hitbursts - blur out only? that spinning 50 can be distracting
yes, maybe

And just got inspired by the skinning competition, maybe somehow cover the osu!cookie with a Nightgate logo?
ummm i'll try fade it out at the logo, but tbh i kinda like the osu logo beind the 'glass' it looks sleeeek

Eww, another misalignment - ranking title and grade - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7952941
and the same screenshot - there's a little dot in the back button that I don't think there should be
I don't see any of these... maybe circle them in red? - also picked up tiny misalignments around the back button but i'm feeling lazy to fix them..

omg more stuff
ok ok...

pause-hover | pause-click-continue/retry/back <-- you should skin those, pretty self-explanatory stuff
of course! its not done yet!

it always bothered me how slider ball is the same color as slider border and it's not touching the borders. Possibly a thing that I just got used to
yeh, probably a personal pref there
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h3oCharles
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h3oCharles

-yuo- wrote:

I don't see any of these... maybe circle them in red? - also picked up tiny misalignments around the back button but I'm feeling lazy to fix them...
Look closely - in the ranking title there are 2 lines, right? The bit that the ranking grade has only a single line and it's a tiny bit darker than it should be
-yuo-
428 posts
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Topic Starter
-yuo-
sigh... does this REALLY matter?

ok, ok, adding to the low priority list....
hoetology
13 posts
Joined March 2017
hoetology
I really admire the aesthetic vibe to it and god the sound effects are astonishing(♥A♥ ). User setup took a while but I mange wait till people start complaining about that.... Can't wait for the other colours to be available--take your time skinning them.
-glug-
174 posts
Joined June 2015
-glug-
this is such a clean skin, it was worth waiting for that time <3







love from Australia!
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-

milkymari wrote:

I really admire the aesthetic vibe to it and god the sound effects are astonishing(♥A♥ ). User setup took a while but I mange wait till people start complaining about that.... Can't wait for the other colours to be available--take your time skinning them.

Dark Light wrote:

this is such a clean skin, it was worth waiting for that time <3
thanks so much for the support!

~yeh, but unfortunately theres no way to automate the setup..... :(




love from Australia!
yassss!
Keiger
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Keiger
my question is, how were you able to center the percent under the scorebar like that? .-.
h3oCharles
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h3oCharles

ItsSurreal wrote:

my question is, how were you able to center the percent under the scorebar like that? .-.
score-percent is a blank rectangle
-yuo-
428 posts
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Topic Starter
-yuo-

ItsSurreal wrote:

my question is, how were you able to center the percent under the scorebar like that? .-.
And how did I dim the score and acc percent when playing?
And how is the back button on ranking panel different to the normal back button?
And how do I control notification popups?
And how does skinning the top of the song select work?
And how did I seemlessly get rid of that gap separating the ranking title from the ranking panel?

Answer: smart skinning, thinking outside of the image

(tldr the score-percent has a huge block of empty space to its right which pushes the numbers to the center.. As for the rest, figuring them out is more fun!) unfortunately osu hides this certain images that are oversized so that's why you can't see the percent image

soz for the braggg
h3oCharles
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h3oCharles
lol

any progress out there m8?
dtnc21
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Joined February 2008
dtnc21
It kinda feels like the spinner is wobbling a bit. Was that meant to happen?
-yuo-
428 posts
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Topic Starter
-yuo-

TheMadCharles wrote:

lol

any progress out there m8?
Yes, did some fixups and mania mods.

Also experimented with some cookie colour changing algorithms, all green (green lol, i mean 'good') so far!

dtnc21 wrote:

It kinda feels like the spinner is wobbling a bit. Was that meant to happen?
Nope, been wanting to fix it for a while




what was wrong with me the day i wrote this... maybe it was just autocorrect
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-Snivy3000-
38 posts
Joined April 2016
-Snivy3000-
cool skin bro, it seems really nice and futuristic, i hope see it soon in various colours. :) :)

Suggestion: i see in Diff mods icons (HR,SD,etc) it shows how many percentage increases the Score Multiplier. But only shows how much increases individually. It might look better if you do it like this for example: Hard Rock instead of show 1.06x show +0.06x or Double Time instead of show 1.12x shows +0.12x
did you understand what i mean?
ScubDomino
690 posts
Joined September 2016
ScubDomino
Very clean gameplay design! Even though I feel like the spacing in ranking letters seem quite off, that's just a minor problem.
Incomp
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Joined December 2016
Incomp
This skin looks great so far. There are a few things that should get some love, but I can't be bothered to elaborate on them now (on a bus to college). If I remember, I'll try to go into more depth after I'm home. My body is ready for the purple version.

I love how you constantly bring some new aspects into skinning, like the different back buttons or how you skinned the area above the search bar on the song selection screen. Keep it up. Maybe I'll get to review NIGHTGATE too.
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
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-Snivy3000-

-Snivy3000- wrote:

cool skin bro, it seems really nice and futuristic, i hope see it soon in various colours. :) :)
Suggestion: i see in Diff mods icons (HR,SD,etc) it shows how many percentage increases the Score Multiplier. But only shows how much increases individually. It might look better if you do it like this for example: Hard Rock instead of show 1.06x show +0.06x or Double Time instead of show 1.12x shows +0.12x
did you understand what i mean?

Yes, cool idea, but does it match the multiplier logic? e.g. HD, HR, FL, DT = 1.41, but if it's additive then it should equal 1.36

and also it might be confusing to others?? idk...

I fully accept the idea, but how will everyone else accept it? This is why I'm reluctant to add. Maybe i'll add in prefs, labeled 'additive display' or something


ScubDomino

ScubDomino wrote:

Very clean gameplay design! Even though I feel like the spacing in ranking letters seem quite off, that's just a minor problem.

Oh, whats wrong?

I would like to fix it! please tell!


Incomp

Incomp wrote:

This skin looks great so far. There are a few things that should get some love, but I can't be bothered to elaborate on them now (on a bus to college). If I remember, I'll try to go into more depth after I'm home. My body is ready for the purple version.
I love how you constantly bring some new aspects into skinning, like the different back buttons or how you skinned the area above the search bar on the song selection screen. Keep it up. Maybe I'll get to review NIGHTGATE too.


Thanks!! Hope you didn't miss the stop!

My re-colouring methods seem all good to go, so after all this is done, it should be easy to change colour using automation. Looking forward to it!

looking forward to your suggestions!

(and your review :P)


edits don't save after you edit it..........ayer...........
and where are the centre, left, right buttons....sandkfjnbnnmv,mnC,MXZ,MXNZ
anyway heres wat happened before i tried editing the post and it disappeared:


Just found out that i can play online, yayayayayayay!

ANNOUNCEMENT 2!

I've decided to work on all modes. CATCH THE BEAT LOOKING GOOD!



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h3oCharles
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h3oCharles
omg... I did the judgment line first on my personal skin! xDD

And here's my try on CTB lul... and drops are slider balls

ScubDomino... overlaping grades in ranking panel ain't going to look good IMO
-yuo-
428 posts
Joined August 2015
Topic Starter
-yuo-
Lel, I CAN READ UR MIND -noh

Nice attempt!

oh, and overlapping grades???

YASSSSSS


Taiko is nearly done! no screenshot, cuz cant be bothered :p

lol I can actually play and read taiko now... first skin that I can actually play taiko with
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h3oCharles
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h3oCharles
umm... 4:3 resolution?

EDIT1: Just noticed in setup, big mode icons in 16-9 and 16-10/21-9 are different... it's black and color instead of transparent and color
I think old mods should get some love too
Default acc... that play-unranked looks out of place IMO
-yuo-
428 posts
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Topic Starter
-yuo-
*whats 4:3?* jks, but i don't think this skin can support that cuz there are wideeee elements in it... e.g. lifebar

these don't matter, they still produce the same result as it is additive in osu.

old mods... hmm idk what to do about them...

which one? centred or not?


TAIKO DONE, MANIA IN PROGRESS
*sigh this will take a long time... mania skinning.... so much code....*
h3oCharles
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h3oCharles

-yuo- wrote:

*whats 4:3?* jks, but i don't think this skin can support that cuz there are wideeee elements in it... e.g. lifebar
just make it shorter? I am aware this may take lot of time for all elements btw

-yuo- wrote:

which one? centred or not?
not centered
-yuo-
428 posts
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-yuo-

h3oCharles wrote:

-yuo- wrote:

*whats 4:3?* jks, but i don't think this skin can support that cuz there are wideeee elements in it... e.g. lifebar
just make it shorter? I am aware this may take lot of time for all elements btw
uhmmmmmmm
cbs... probs colours first, but then i would continue to do another skin... no one uses 4:3 riiighttt??? *~*


-yuo- wrote:

which one? centred or not?
not centered[/quote]
ok. will figure something out

MORE SCREENIES



*mania not fully done, as u can see, and i would like to make it more colourful but idk how




*awesome glows seen in catch and osustd have been taken off because they make taiko hard to read. This might be why it doesn't look so 'woah'...**pretty done this one...
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h3oCharles
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h3oCharles
who uses 4:3... well... there might be some ppl out there... and also, ThePooN
dtnc21
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dtnc21
Just wanna get this out there…

…I usually play with standard resolution.
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