Red dot where cursor misses, to help with feedback for aim

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Seijiro
I'd say it is really hard to focus on the object I just missed, above all on maps with large spacings that asks me to look at the next couple of objects if I want to read the map properly.

If ever, I'd say something like this is more suitable for what you ask: t/406801/start=0
While it is not "direct" feedback this still lets me understand better the whole map and analize my movements. I wouldn't be able to do so while playing for sure.
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Mio Winter

MrSergio wrote:

I'd say it is really hard to focus on the object I just missed, above all on maps with large spacings that asks me to look at the next couple of objects if I want to read the map properly.

If ever, I'd say something like this is more suitable for what you ask: t/406801/start=0
While it is not "direct" feedback this still lets me understand better the whole map and analize my movements. I wouldn't be able to do so while playing for sure.
The problem with that is that I don't think there's a mechanism in the brain for learning how to aim based on seeing that map of misses. We get better at aiming from immediate feedback, not conscious reasoning. I think.
Sandy Hoey
Yeah, but you are not going to reasonably be to pay attention to exactly where you missed if you are trying not fail
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Mio Winter

Sandy Hoey wrote:

Yeah, but you are not going to reasonably be to pay attention to exactly where you missed if you are trying not fail
You don't need to pay much conscious attention to where you missed as long as the information gets into the relevant parts of the brain. The learning is mostly an unconscious process annyway.
Sandy Hoey
I guess. But I know I get very easily distracted when playing osu! Id rather not have it personnaly
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Mio Winter

Sandy Hoey wrote:

I guess. But I know I get very easily distracted when playing osu! Id rather not have it personnaly
I want it to be an optional feature. : )

Also, some experiments in neuroscience probably show that in order to get better at an activity, you need to pay attention to that activity while doing it. Citing a summary of these experiments from here (http://lesswrong.com/lw/blr/attention_c ... tical_for/), "We don’t become better at things we do – we become better at things we pay attention to while we’re doing them."

Which is maybe a reason to always try to play beatmaps that are hard enough to not let you completely lose your attention. : o
Seijiro
I never said you don't have to pay attention as it is now: I said that my focus (and probably also others') is going towards the next objects more than the object I am about to click. It's a different kind of focus that osu requires in order to "stay on rhythm".

In my personal experience I can tell you that once I'm about to click something I prepare myself already to calculate the distance and the rhythm for the next objects since I already know where and when to click the current one. If I miss that note I can't afford to pay attention to see <exactly> how I missed since I'd end up missing other notes too.
That was my point.
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Mio Winter

MrSergio wrote:

I never said you don't have to pay attention as it is now: I said that my focus (and probably also others') is going towards the next objects more than the object I am about to click. It's a different kind of focus that osu requires in order to "stay on rhythm".

In my personal experience I can tell you that once I'm about to click something I prepare myself already to calculate the distance and the rhythm for the next objects since I already know where and when to click the current one. If I miss that note I can't afford to pay attention to see <exactly> how I missed since I'd end up missing other notes too.
That was my point.
I use the magic powers of deduction to infer that you are Sandy Hoey as well. : p

I see what you mean.
Ashton

MrSergio wrote:

I never said you don't have to pay attention as it is now: I said that my focus (and probably also others') is going towards the next objects more than the object I am about to click. It's a different kind of focus that osu requires in order to "stay on rhythm".

In my personal experience I can tell you that once I'm about to click something I prepare myself already to calculate the distance and the rhythm for the next objects since I already know where and when to click the current one. If I miss that note I can't afford to pay attention to see <exactly> how I missed since I'd end up missing other notes too.
That was my point.
I agree with this! I honestly don't see any need to have this implemented even if it was a optional feature
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Mio Winter

Whirl wrote:

MrSergio wrote:

I never said you don't have to pay attention as it is now: I said that my focus (and probably also others') is going towards the next objects more than the object I am about to click. It's a different kind of focus that osu requires in order to "stay on rhythm".

In my personal experience I can tell you that once I'm about to click something I prepare myself already to calculate the distance and the rhythm for the next objects since I already know where and when to click the current one. If I miss that note I can't afford to pay attention to see <exactly> how I missed since I'd end up missing other notes too.
That was my point.
I agree with this! I honestly don't see any need to have this implemented even if it was a optional feature
The hypothesis is that it will help even though you don't pay much conscious attention to where the red dot is, so you'll still get to learn aim quicker even if you don't change the way you allocate your attention currently.
Adder
Yes, make a boo.png element plox
I Give Up
This is really good actually. A lot of the misses are due to losing track of cursor because of mis-reading or drift. This would be EXTREMELY helpful.
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