2016-09-17 18:59 pimpG: nice map btw
2016-09-17 19:00 ColdTooth: ty
2016-09-17 19:02 pimpG: wow
2016-09-17 19:03 pimpG: two beats after spinner should be enough for easy / normal
2016-09-17 19:04 pimpG: advanced 1 beat is more than enough, as it's called advanced
2016-09-17 19:04 ColdTooth: True. I had issues with determining that, so I just went 4 beats
2016-09-17 19:07 pimpG: your last slider in easy should not have new combo
2016-09-17 19:07 pimpG: as normal does not have one
2016-09-17 19:08 pimpG: i don't like the new combo abuse at the end of all diff's to be hones
2016-09-17 19:08 pimpG: t
2016-09-17 19:08 ColdTooth: Wanted to make yellow my last combo
2016-09-17 19:08 ColdTooth: as i am an equal person
2016-09-17 19:09 pimpG: also
2016-09-17 19:09 pimpG: i think the last circle should not exist
2016-09-17 19:09 ColdTooth: in each difficulty?
2016-09-17 19:09 pimpG: the sound is so soft
2016-09-17 19:09 pimpG: yes
2016-09-17 19:09 pimpG: if the sound was louder it would be another story. my opinion anyway
2016-09-17 19:10 ColdTooth: I think it fits really, considering i got a normal finish. Although, you do bring up a valid point, so I think I'll remove them soon
2016-09-17 19:11 pimpG: 01:08:178 - you already have a loud sound here. this sound is mapped with finish
2016-09-17 19:12 ColdTooth: A drum finish
2016-09-17 19:12 pimpG: btw what you said about the extra new combo on easy is non sense
2016-09-17 19:12 pimpG: just change the color manually if you need
2016-09-17 19:14 pimpG: 00:33:005 (1,2,1) - word
2016-09-17 19:14 pimpG: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1084434 Jake Kaufman - The Nightmare Woods (Run Run Rottytops!) [Hard]]
2016-09-17 19:14 ColdTooth: yes
2016-09-17 19:17 pimpG: 00:52:867 (5,6) - hard. this kind of spacing does not works very well on anything bellow insane, i think
2016-09-17 19:18 ColdTooth: Wanted to have some kind of jumps there, but forgot it wasn't insane so that happened. I'll fix it in the future.
2016-09-17 19:19 pimpG: 00:33:833 (1,2) - don't skip the red tick
2016-09-17 19:19 pimpG: blue tick*
2016-09-17 19:19 pimpG: extra
2016-09-17 19:20 pimpG: you did not skipped anywhere else
2016-09-17 19:20 ColdTooth: oh
2016-09-17 19:20 ColdTooth: added
2016-09-17 19:21 pimpG: 00:04:040 (1) - 1/1 on extra?
2016-09-17 19:23 ColdTooth: It's not the only 1/1 on extra
2016-09-17 19:23 pimpG: just noticed
2016-09-17 19:23 pimpG: and that's bad. extras are usually overmapped, not undermapped (yes you are skipping some sounds with 1/1)
2016-09-17 19:24 ColdTooth: It's already overamapped in 90% of the map lol
2016-09-17 19:24 ColdTooth: it's atleast 1 star above insane
2016-09-17 19:24 pimpG: i did not found any place overmapped
2016-09-17 19:25 ColdTooth: we're talking about my 2014 self
2016-09-17 19:25 ColdTooth: and trust me, this isn't a map where it's like 6 minutes long
2016-09-17 19:25 ColdTooth: it's a nice, casual 1 minute song
2016-09-17 19:25 pimpG: what's your point?
2016-09-17 19:25 pimpG: casual songs usually don't have extra diff's
2016-09-17 19:26 ColdTooth: there are some extras that are casual-like
2016-09-17 19:26 ColdTooth: do you want me to change the difficulty name?
2016-09-17 19:26 pimpG: the problem is not the name
2016-09-17 19:28 pimpG: but ppl expect a rhythm challenge if you map something above insane
2016-09-17 19:29 ColdTooth: k so spaced streams isn't a challenge
2016-09-17 19:29 ColdTooth: 00:24:316 (2,3,4,5,6) - this apparently isn't a challenge
2016-09-17 19:29 ColdTooth: streams outside of the kiai have different spacing between each note
2016-09-17 19:30 pimpG: okay so you call this a casual-like but you include ridiculous jumps
2016-09-17 19:30 ColdTooth: It's a casual extra
2016-09-17 19:31 ColdTooth: it's nothing like the extras im working on
2016-09-17 19:31 ColdTooth: ACTION is editing F-777 - Shaolin Warrior [Inner Harmony]
2016-09-17 19:31 ColdTooth: I've been working on this map for a month or two
2016-09-17 19:31 ColdTooth: not even finished and it's really hard
2016-09-17 19:32 pimpG: do you think your map difficulty will raise one or two more stars if you get rid of the 1/1?
2016-09-17 19:33 ColdTooth: Not at all, it'll only increase by maybe .01 or not at all
2016-09-17 19:34 pimpG: for extra it's just 4 sliders
2016-09-17 19:34 pimpG: extra diffs usually have purple icon
2016-09-17 19:34 ColdTooth: Usually
2016-09-17 19:34 pimpG: you are almost there.
2016-09-17 19:35 ColdTooth: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/315090 sakuzyo - Scattered Rose]
2016-09-17 19:35 extra w/ 4.71 *
2016-09-17 19:35 ColdTooth: RLC's*
2016-09-17 19:35 ColdTooth: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/341285 Eagle - S!ck]
2016-09-17 19:35 pimpG: purple should be 5.0 ~ 5.25
2016-09-17 19:35 ColdTooth: Extra w/ 4.94*
2016-09-17 19:35 ColdTooth: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/339055 Griffin Lewis - Princess of the Night]
2016-09-17 19:35 ColdTooth: Extra w/ 3.78*
2016-09-17 19:36 pimpG: rlc is a real mapper
2016-09-17 19:36 ColdTooth: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/126715 Renard - GOT MY PONY SPAM FOR YOU]
2016-09-17 19:36 ColdTooth: Extra w/ 4.56*
2016-09-17 19:36 pimpG: he knew what he was doing
2016-09-17 19:36 ColdTooth: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/319661 Gentle Stick X M2U - Hades in the Heaven]
2016-09-17 19:36 ColdTooth: Both Extra's below 5*
2016-09-17 19:36 pimpG: stuff mapped before 2015 does not counts
2016-09-17 19:37 pimpG: max star rating used to be 5.0
2016-09-17 19:37 ColdTooth: "2014 mapping style"
2016-09-17 19:37 pimpG: and red star
2016-09-17 19:37 ColdTooth: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/678461 yes we cant - wh]
2016-09-17 19:37 ColdTooth: Both 2015 extras below 5*
2016-09-17 19:38 pimpG: short song
2016-09-17 19:38 ColdTooth: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/824359 Streetlight Manifesto - The Blonde Lead The Blind]
2016-09-17 19:38 ColdTooth: 4.95* extra in 2017
2016-09-17 19:38 ColdTooth: 2016(
2016-09-17 19:39 ColdTooth: SO
2016-09-17 19:39 pimpG: you know that having a purple icon your map will be played more, don't you?
2016-09-17 19:39 ColdTooth: k lemme conduct my 1/1s into something else
2016-09-17 19:39 ColdTooth: and if it's not above 4.99*
2016-09-17 19:39 ColdTooth: im revertting it back
2016-09-17 19:39 pimpG: don't make noob patterns on extra diffs
2016-09-17 19:40 pimpG: 1/1 is for easy
2016-09-17 19:40 pimpG: i thought you were becoming a relevant mapper...
2016-09-17 19:41 ColdTooth: Oh, so you want me to map what every 2016 mapper enjoys, insanly fucking retarded maps that somehow gets ranked by idiotic BATs
2016-09-17 19:41 ColdTooth: ok
2016-09-17 19:41 pimpG: i just want you to use a fitting pattern for the difficulty level
2016-09-17 19:42 pimpG: the purple icon is close and possible
2016-09-17 19:42 pimpG: don't pp me. you know that i don't map pp
2016-09-17 19:43 pimpG: bats are gone. we have bn and qat
2016-09-17 19:44 ColdTooth: 4.97*
2016-09-17 19:44 ColdTooth: It only went up by .01
2016-09-17 19:45 ColdTooth: which means i need to change 00:59:074 (2,3,4,5,6) - in extra
2016-09-17 19:45 ColdTooth: into something like what i had earlier
2016-09-17 19:45 pimpG: the purple icon is optional
2016-09-17 19:45 ColdTooth: Nono
2016-09-17 19:45 pimpG: rhythm is a must
2016-09-17 19:45 ColdTooth: I'm going to make it purple
2016-09-17 19:45 ColdTooth: just for you
2016-09-17 19:46 pimpG: i don't play extra diff's
2016-09-17 19:46 pimpG: but i won't be quiet if i see such issues on maps
2016-09-17 19:47 pimpG: yes. i call this rhythm an issue
2016-09-17 19:47 ColdTooth: 5.11*
2016-09-17 19:47 ColdTooth: there
2016-09-17 19:47 ColdTooth: it's now an extra
2016-09-17 19:49 pimpG: good for you
2016-09-17 19:49 pimpG: don't forget to make the insane harder
2016-09-17 19:50 ColdTooth: y
2016-09-17 19:50 pimpG: it's bellow 4 star
2016-09-17 19:51 ColdTooth: How
2016-09-17 19:51 ColdTooth: do i make it
2016-09-17 19:51 ColdTooth: from 3.8 to 4.00
2016-09-17 19:52 ColdTooth: it has the red icon
2016-09-17 19:52 ColdTooth: im sure it's fine
2016-09-17 19:52 pimpG: you can start by adding circles after the 1st spinner
2016-09-17 19:53 pimpG: it's okay to have only half beat after spinner
2016-09-17 19:53 pimpG: on insane
2016-09-17 19:53 ColdTooth: that did nothing
2016-09-17 19:53 pimpG: at least you tried
2016-09-17 19:53 pimpG: thats good enough
2016-09-17 19:56 ColdTooth: anything else?
2016-09-17 19:57 pimpG: your mapping is mostly clean
2016-09-17 20:09 pimpG: i'll check more soon
2016-09-17 20:09 pimpG: a lot of ppl need my attention now
2016-09-17 20:09 ColdTooth: kk
2016-09-17 20:11 ColdTooth: you going to post the log on the forum or
2016-09-17 20:11 pimpG: sure
2016-09-17 20:11 pimpG: but i will check a bit more
2016-09-17 20:12 ColdTooth: kk, include it in the post if you want, cause i have to leave here shortly for about the rest of the night
2016-09-17 20:12 pimpG: sure
2016-09-17 20:12 pimpG: good knight