16:54 SkinnyJommy: u down for a NEW MAP?
16:54 chainpullz: playing or mapping?
16:54 chainpullz: also, #improvement https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6181236
16:57 SkinnyJommy: playing
16:57 SkinnyJommy: hanzer ew
16:57 SkinnyJommy: but nice play man
16:57 *SkinnyJommy is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1090969 paraoka - Rainbow Archiver (Short ver.)]
17:00 SkinnyJommy: RIP
17:00 chainpullz: ar9.8 feels really bad just saying but yeah im not good at this type of map at this *rating
17:00 SkinnyJommy: hmmmmmmm
17:05 SkinnyJommy: i have another map
17:05 SkinnyJommy: i dont think i showed you yet
17:05 *SkinnyJommy is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1084460 kamome sano - </emotional>]
17:06 chainpullz: cant even stream 200 rip lol
17:06 chainpullz: rucker woulda ss'd
17:06 SkinnyJommy: that map was full of copy paste patterns
17:06 chainpullz: yeah idk, i really liked the song
17:10 SkinnyJommy: rip
17:10 chainpullz: idk, i like naitoshi's better because I can actually play it :^)
17:11 SkinnyJommy: yea mines hella hard
17:11 SkinnyJommy: its a collab so some parts are a lot different from mine
17:11 chainpullz: there are a number of reasons that could have contributed to me playing like absolute hit
17:11 chainpullz: so idk, hard to evaluate it based on that one play
17:12 SkinnyJommy: yea its all good man
17:12 chainpullz: this is kind of just bad practice imo 02:01:128 (4,1,2) - 3 different ds's with a flow break included
17:13 chainpullz: like maybe if there wasn't the flow break just having 3 different velocities can work
17:13 chainpullz: but context dependant
17:14 SkinnyJommy: hmmm
17:14 SkinnyJommy: i see
17:14 chainpullz: 02:23:886 (4,1,2) - this changes ds one note too early
17:14 chainpullz: imo
17:15 chainpullz: like one way the 3 different velocities can work imo is if its like a non-flow breaky stream jump followed by a stream that's a bit faster than the first
17:16 chainpullz: or something like that where its more of a small large medium instead of small medium large progression
17:16 SkinnyJommy: hmmmmmmm
17:17 SkinnyJommy: i like the small medium large
17:17 SkinnyJommy: i think it provides more emphasis
17:17 chainpullz: across 3 notes?
17:17 chainpullz: you're emphasizing the notes that come after the strong beat more than the strong beat that way
17:17 chainpullz: if its like small x4 medium x4 large x4 then yeah I would agree
17:18 SkinnyJommy: 02:23:973 (1) - were talking about this right
17:18 SkinnyJommy: the stream that starts here
17:19 chainpullz: yeah, the 4,1,2
17:20 SkinnyJommy: hmm
17:20 chainpullz: also unless you are going for a stream jump the ds increase usually doesn't kick in until the white -> blue
17:20 SkinnyJommy: could you make an example pattern
17:21 chainpullz: example of what type of stream?
17:21 SkinnyJommy: ya
17:22 chainpullz: here is example of stream without jump https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6181467
17:22 chainpullz: let me find one for with jump
17:24 chainpullz: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6181484 might be hard to tell but ds on yellow is ~1.04 and ds on green is ~1.2
17:24 chainpullz: the slight increase helps carry through that huge motion you get from the jump without losing the feel of a stream jump
17:25 SkinnyJommy: hmm yea that makes sense
17:25 chainpullz: so imo there are like 2 tools for emphasizing the white tick: jumps and bumps/corners
17:26 chainpullz: and both are kind of harsh to play so adding a slight increase on everything that comes after can help carry that extra energy
17:27 chainpullz: though simply doing a small large small works too but if you do that over and over it feels really uncomfortable often times
17:27 chainpullz: ie hanzer streams
17:28 SkinnyJommy: i tried the small medium small
17:28 chainpullz: small medium small is good too imo
17:29 chainpullz: its kind of similar to using a bump instead of a harsh corner
17:29 SkinnyJommy: ill update so you can see
17:30 SkinnyJommy: bancho pls
17:30 chainpullz: bumps are kind of cool for undermapping imo because you can visually emphasizing stuff without enforcing play emphasis
17:30 SkinnyJommy: yeah, i see what you mean
17:30 SkinnyJommy: ok updated
17:30 SkinnyJommy: 02:23:973 (1,2,3,4) -
17:31 chainpullz: yeah looks a lot better from a play standpoint
17:32 chainpullz: you elicit the same emotional response you were going for with this without making it feel aweful :^)
17:32 SkinnyJommy: yep, u right, u loyal
17:33 SkinnyJommy: 04:24:318 (1) - this stream is SICKKK
17:33 chainpullz: yeah, i really like those kinds of streams its just difficult to get them not looking like ass
17:35 SkinnyJommy: thanks for the help bro
17:35 chainpullz: np
17:35 SkinnyJommy: now i gotta make a 5 star map out this
17:35 chainpullz: how do I copy this window for that sweet useless kds again?