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Nightwish - The Islander

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narakucrimson
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on miércoles, 10 de agosto de 2011 at 04:44:51 p.m.

Artist: Nightwish
Title: The Islander
Tags: dark passion play
BPM: 168
Filesize: 21480kb
Play Time: 04:11
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2,18 stars, 200 notes)
  2. Hard (4,64 stars, 367 notes)
  3. Medium (3,52 stars, 263 notes)
Download: Nightwish - The Islander
Download: Nightwish - The Islander (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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This is my contribution to KuraiPettan's Nightwish (Dark Passion Play) Project.

Special thanks to Armin for providing a good quality video and mp3 - which means that if you downloaded this before 6th June, you'll have to redownload it~

Oh and just to keep counting, this is my 6th beatmap.
Enjoy!
Lanttu
Finally~<3
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

Lanttu wrote:

Finally~<3
Yeah I decided to upload it to show that I hadn't forgotten about it :P
Roddie
Bit of a IRC modding on Hard.

Nice job mapping this song, bro. 8-)

Its worth a star!
Topic Starter
narakucrimson
Thanks man! :D
Selee
...why the Dark Passion Play Project link would direct me to one random graved map?

The group without Tarja no longer means nightwish to me D:

Star and anti-grave anyway~
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

Selee wrote:

...why the Dark Passion Play Project link would direct me to one random graved map? Oh fffffffu- that shouldn't happen~

Yeah, Nightwish it's really different now... But I still like their music :>

Thanks Selee >w<
gustjr1997
star
Screenagers
star 8-)
Topic Starter
narakucrimson
heh thanks for the star on Kings and Queens too!
Armin
[General]

[*] First of all, mp3's quality is really bad. I suggest you to download this (http://www.mediafire.com/?o49zmmdtq8u8ief) and then to change your timing values in:
BPM:168,00
Offset:11.650
Then, select all the hitobjects (CTRL+A) and move them 7/2 BPM back (making the map start here: 00:28:792)

[*]Video is bad too. In first place it is disproportionate and its quality is kinda unwatchable. °°
I tried to compress something for you, try with this http://www.mediafire.com/?7usfdd984dv3r3l

Offset video: WIP T_T found on IRC lol
Topic Starter
narakucrimson
Ok after a few hours you managed to make that video work xD Thanks Armin!
ax_pokl
good map

star
but still have many problems

about my mod:



preview point not set

[Hard]
00:37:703 (1,2) - too close
01:34:131 (5,6) -
02:15:739 (5,1) - too close ,delete 02:15:739 (5) -
02:28:239 (4) - don't stack?
02:38:060 (5) -
03:05:203 (3,4) - distance
03:50:203 (3,4) -
04:06:631 (4,5) - too close?

[Medium]
song is too long
01:01:453 (4,5) - no stack
01:24:489 (2,3) - too colse?
01:35:739 (1,2,3) - too colse?
01:44:667 (4,5) -
03:07:346 (1,2,3) - distance problem

[Easy]
01:10:560 (5,6) -
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

ax_pokl wrote:

good map

star
but still have many problems

about my mod:



preview point not set Oh gawd how did I forget about this!

[Hard]
00:37:703 (1,2) - too close You see, this isn't a problem. You have to be careful what you identify as an error while modding
01:34:131 (5,6) - The spacing is ok o.o
02:15:739 (5,1) - too close ,delete 02:15:739 (5) -
02:28:239 (4) - don't stack? Why not?
02:38:060 (5) -
03:05:203 (3,4) - distance It's called jump...
03:50:203 (3,4) -
04:06:631 (4,5) - too close? I did this on purpose! You have to be able to see that! Added a new combo, though.

[Medium]
song is too long ...are you kidding me?...
01:01:453 (4,5) - no stack
01:24:489 (2,3) - too colse?
01:35:739 (1,2,3) - too colse?
01:44:667 (4,5) -
03:07:346 (1,2,3) - distance problem

[Easy]
01:10:560 (5,6) -
I'll give a mod to your mod. First of all, be careful what you identify as problems. Then, EXPLAIN WHY IT IS A PROBLEM, not just nazi things. Also, add suggestions where you can.

Most of the things you mentioned weren't even errors. Just keep that in mind, ok?
I won't kudosu you since I had just forgotten about the preview point.

Thanks anyway!
Beezqp
As a Nightwish fan I have to give a star :) The more Nightwish in osu, the better!
Kenezz
Hey Naraku ^_^
Kenezz's Bakamod~
Orz un mapa perfecto

General
  1. Necesitas un Circleoverlay >_<
Easy
  1. 01:13:775 (3) - Agregale una repeticion?
  2. Me gusta pero la siento un poco "Normal"
Medium
  1. 02:38:417 (1) - Finish en el inicio
  2. 03:49:131 (1) - Me parece que este spinner deberia empezar despues, como en easy... si lo mueves obviamente mapea la parte en blanco
  3. No veo más problemas aqui D:
Hard
  1. 01:14:846 (x) - agrega una nota aqui y alineala con (1) ?
  2. Perfecto me encanto ^w^
Perdon pero no pude ver ningun problema importante ... orz
Bueno bueno solo dejo la Star~ btw genial song, map y sliders *-*
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

Kenezz wrote:

Hey Naraku ^_^
Kenezz's Bakamod~
Orz un mapa perfecto xD se siente bien escuchar eso (?)

General
  1. Necesitas un Circleoverlay >_< Oh you're right >.<
Easy
  1. 01:13:775 (3) - Agregale una repeticion? Genial~
  2. Me gusta pero la siento un poco "Normal" Si, puede ser - pero aún así me parece lo suficientemente fácil y jugable para nuevos jugadores. Qué opinás? (Eso si, le bajé bastante los stats...)
Medium
  1. 02:38:417 (1) - Finish en el inicio Ok~ Hice algunos arreglos en los hitsounds del combo, en general
  2. 03:49:131 (1) - Me parece que este spinner deberia empezar despues, como en easy... si lo mueves obviamente mapea la parte en blanco mmmm bueno!
  3. No veo más problemas aqui D:
Hard
  1. 01:14:846 (x) - agrega una nota aqui y alineala con (1) ? En cierta forma estaba siguiendo las vocales, pero esto no suena mal~
  2. Perfecto me encanto ^w^
Perdon pero no pude ver ningun problema importante ... orz
Bueno bueno solo dejo la Star~ btw genial song, map y sliders *-* :3
Muchas gracias Kenezz >w<
Kurai
Here's my mod o/

Easy
  1. OD 3 is a bit high for an easy, decrease it by 1 tick would be better.
  2. 00:56:989 - Remove this break, as it isn't even 1 second long, it is kinda useless.
  3. 01:11:275 (6) - Even if it sounds fine, this kind of 1/2 is not appropriate to easy difficulties. This is too hard to play for new players, moreover even without this circle the pattern sounds fine ;p
  4. 01:23:060 (7) - I understand why you did that, but the spot where this circle is is not appropriate to the song, it is not on a noticeable beat. It would be fine in a Hard difficulty but not in a easy. I suggest you to remove this circle and to extend the previous slider by 1/2.
  5. 01:54:846 (1) - It would be more logical if you start this spinner 1/2 earlier because it is based on the vocal who start at 01:54:489
  6. 02:24:489 (4) - As you have made a nice job with all of your patterns, I'm a bit sad that this note is not correctly stacked with the end of (3)
  7. 02:25:560 (5) - The end of this slider doesn't end of something clearly hearable. It will if you reduce it by 1/2
  8. 02:38:060 (7) - Same remark as 01:23:060 (7)
  9. 03:09:846 (1) - Same remark as 01:54:846 (1)
Medium
  1. 00:53:417 (8) - Add a clap at the end to keep the rhythm you have done
  2. 00:53:417 (8) - Same remark for the break as Easy.
  3. 01:34:131 (5) - Add a finish to keep the rhythm you have done in your pattern
Hard
  1. 01:21:989 (4) - The beginning of this slider is too much offscreen, it is hided by the lifebar
  2. 03:06:274 (5) - Wow, Nice :D
That's all I have to say. You did a nice job, I'm happy that your map will be in my beatmap project !

Star~
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

KuraiPettan wrote:

Here's my mod o/

Easy
  1. OD 3 is a bit high for an easy, decrease it by 1 tick would be better. Fine!
  2. 00:56:989 - Remove this break, as it isn't even 1 second long, it is kinda useless. Yeah, you're right
  3. 01:11:275 (6) - Even if it sounds fine, this kind of 1/2 is not appropriate to easy difficulties. This is too hard to play for new players, moreover even without this circle the pattern sounds fine ;p Well yes, I actually was about to remove this a few times xD I'll have to move some things so that the spacing is ok, but no problem here~
  4. 01:23:060 (7) - I understand why you did that, but the spot where this circle is is not appropriate to the song, it is not on a noticeable beat. It would be fine in a Hard difficulty but not in a easy. I suggest you to remove this circle and to extend the previous slider by 1/2. Ok, sounds fine
  5. 01:54:846 (1) - It would be more logical if you start this spinner 1/2 earlier because it is based on the vocal who start at 01:54:489 ~
  6. 02:24:489 (4) - As you have made a nice job with all of your patterns, I'm a bit sad that this note is not correctly stacked with the end of (3) I actually arranged this in a different way so that I can fix the next point easily
  7. 02:25:560 (5) - The end of this slider doesn't end of something clearly hearable. It will if you reduce it by 1/2
  8. 02:38:060 (7) - Same remark as 01:23:060 (7)
  9. 03:09:846 (1) - Same remark as 01:54:846 (1) Both fixed
Medium
  1. 00:53:417 (8) - Add a clap at the end to keep the rhythm you have done
  2. 00:53:417 (8) - Same remark for the break as Easy.
  3. 01:34:131 (5) - Add a finish to keep the rhythm you have done in your pattern
Ok, fixed everything

Hard
  1. 01:21:989 (4) - The beginning of this slider is too much offscreen, it is hided by the lifebar
    No, it's not xD
  2. 03:06:274 (5) - Wow, Nice :D Thanks >w<
That's all I have to say. You did a nice job, I'm happy that your map will be in my beatmap project ! I'm glad to hear that, Kurai! :D

Star~
Thanks a lot! :3
Luvdic

narakucrimson wrote:

Special thanks to Armin for providing a good quality video and mp3 - which means that if you downloaded this before 5th July, you'll have to redownload it~
Hmm, So if I have downloaded this today, I will have to download it again? But then, since I have downloaded it again today, and it's still before 5th july, then Ill have to redownlaod again? Omg, inifite loop incoming.

General:

I think this mp3 has multiple tiing sections... I would recheck on the timing

Just an example, at 00:58:774 - it needs a new offset of +15 ms imo...


Medium:

01:45:560 (5) - I don't like how this circle is stacked to the slider, because some players can confuse it being 1/2 earlier because of 01:44:489 (3) -
02:21:631 (1,2,3,4,5) - Too hard imo for a medium, (because of the amount of circles in 1/2)


Easy:

01:00:203 (4,5) - Delete them, and then add a new circle at 01:00:381 -

Nothing else!
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

ErufenRito wrote:

narakucrimson wrote:

Special thanks to Armin for providing a good quality video and mp3 - which means that if you downloaded this before 5th July, you'll have to redownload it~
Hmm, So if I have downloaded this today, I will have to download it again? But then, since I have downloaded it again today, and it's still before 5th july, then Ill have to redownlaod again? Omg, inifite loop incoming. Hahaha June, sorry

General:

I think this mp3 has multiple tiing sections... I would recheck on the timing

Just an example, at 00:58:774 - it needs a new offset of +15 ms imo... Nah, it's just fine - I thought it was multiple BPM'd but I'm pretty happy with the single BPM I used


Medium:

01:45:560 (5) - I don't like how this circle is stacked to the slider, because some players can confuse it being 1/2 earlier because of 01:44:489 (3) - Fine, I moved this
02:21:631 (1,2,3,4,5) - Too hard imo for a medium, (because of the amount of circles in 1/2) I removed (3), but I don't think it's that hard, remember that a new player would play the easy, and a little more experienced player is in the process of learning how to play and read more complex patterns. But, whatever.


Easy:

01:00:203 (4,5) - Delete them, and then add a new circle at 01:00:381 - Ok!

Nothing else!
Thanks, Erufenmon!
RobotoRaccoon
Lol @ ax_pokl

Mod :o

General
• Hard to see the ticks on the white slider colour?

[Easy]
• AR -1 Feels more on an easy this way
00:54:131 (7) - Place directly on end of slider

[Medium]
01:01:989 (5) - Place on end of slider.

[Hard]
Cool beans.

No kudosu
Star 8-)
Topic Starter
narakucrimson

RobotoRaccoon wrote:

Lol @ ax_pokl We all had our first mods :P

Mod :o

General
• Hard to see the ticks on the white slider colour? Well, yes, but they don't really need to be seen since they don't help a lot to see the speed changes, they are pretty much predictable. Plus, I don't like how darker slider ticks look on this :P

[Easy]
• AR -1 Feels more on an easy this way Well, yeah, you might be right
00:54:131 (7) - Place directly on end of slider "This is not stacked perfectly under the end of the slider" is a better approach to what you mean :P

[Medium]
01:01:989 (5) - Place on end of slider. Same here!

[Hard]
Cool beans.

No kudosu
Star 8-)
Thanks! And I see no reason to not giving you kudosu :P
Tenshi-nyan
Showing my support.

I'm too lazy to mod, though.
Topic Starter
narakucrimson
Thanks Tenshi :3
Raging Bull
Hi.

General:
Try to find a video that is 800x600. Video looks too squished right now.
I don't knowwww but it might have a second BPM? Although its probably the way you mapped easy. :s

Easy/Normal/Hard:
Orz I can't find anything. (Besides delicious sliders)

Although it's more of a personal opinion, I rather you not use any slowdown/speed ups sliders for Easy. Just leave it at 1x SV.

Lol@mymod.

Star.
Topic Starter
narakucrimson
Hi Raging Bull!

About the video, I must say that it was quiet a pain in the ass to get it xD I don't really see the problem in having it with those dimensions, considerening the video quality :3

And about the BPM, I still think - even though some people mentioned it - that it is correct as it is, so I'll keep it as it is :3

And, well the multiplier changes... Yeah, in Medium everything is at 1,0x which might not be very consistnet with the others... But I think that every difficulty looks well in it's own way, so I prefer to keep it unchanged for now :P

Thanks for taking the time to mod this >w<
SapphireGhost
Hi there this is me modding, I'm a bit tired at the moment so hopefully this doesn't sound too awful.

[Easy]
01:12:703 (2) - The curve here is a bit sharp. (cosmetic useless note)
02:50:203 (4) - Pattern here can be a bit confusing for newbies.

[Normal]
01:05:203 (3,4) - This is really confusing ~ try moving one of the loop sliders so they don't overlap like that.
02:20:203 (4,5,6) - Strange anti-jump. I almost hit (5) too early, but I got it so maybe this is a problem and maybe not.

[Hard]
04:06:989 (2) - Why the strange spacing here?

This is the looong fooorgoooteeen star yeah
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