1. Nothing

1. One thing I noticed while playtesting is that the flow is good, good job on that
2. Try to not use finish hitsounds too loosely, they're generally used for cymbal crashes in mapping rock/pop/metal music, etc. While I think in electronic music like dubstep people use it for other sounds, anyway... Like here 01:18:851 (1) - it shouldnt be used. 00:59:351 (1) - here was good. If you want to emphasize vocals, generally people use whistle.
3. There are a few blankets you need to fix but I wont mention all of them, only the most obvious ones, because I dont want this to become a blanket mod :^). You can go back and find them on your own
4. Minor detail but shouldnt these be spaced the same? what I mean is http://puu.sh/rfSEE/f2f800159f.jpg
5. 00:38:354 (1) - This pentagon can be moved to make the pentagon look nicer. Heck, if you want, you can even use the slider to blanket the 2 http://puu.sh/rfT1a/08c8fd6b46.jpg
6. 00:41:335 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Nailed the rhythm
7. 00:49:038 (2,6) - ewww theyre barely touching
8. 00:58:414 (4,1,2) - This part was unexpected while playtesting, flow felt a bit off since you're moving in a straight line, have to stop to click, then continue in the same direction with higher speed. I recommend something like this: http://puu.sh/rfTIV/032c0d6cb1.jpg
9. 01:00:851 (1,2,3,4) -
10. 01:02:351 (1,1) - eww theyre barely touching
11. 01:10:601 (5,6) - play this part of the music at 50%, the beatsnap divisor is actually 1/6 i think. you might have to confirm, i dont trust my ears
12. 01:25:601 (3) - sliderhead here sounds like a snare, should use clap for that. there are more of those throughout the song but im too lazy to find them all
13. 01:24:851 (1,2,3,4) - glad youre not ignoring the vocalist here
    02:23:352 (1,3) - eww, they're like, touching
14. 01:34:602 (15) - theyre barely touching eww. move it away
15. 01:35:351 (1,3) - stack 3 to head of 1
16. 01:53:352 (1,6) - stack 6 onto 1
17. 01:55:602 (4,5,6) - blanket maybe? http://puu.sh/rfVOB/a50f8213a8.jpg
18. 01:55:602 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - <3
19. 01:59:352 (1,2) - blanket like dis http://puu.sh/rfVV8/e80669c7be.jpg
20. 02:05:352 (1,2,3) - 02:06:477 (6,7,8) - these parts are overmapped
21. 02:40:602 (3,4) - 1/6 i think
22. 02:54:852 (1,2,3,4,5) -
    03:02:914 (2,3,4,1) - what are you mapping to here? At first I thought it was lyrics, but you ignored the vocal on the red tick. Not instrument either since you ignored the percussion on the white tick
23. 03:17:914 (2) - blanket a tad off
24. 03:18:664 (2,3,4) - overmap
25. 03:46:602 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - consider making it colorful :^) http://puu.sh/rfWwT/567535e4f6.jpg universal sign for change to 1/3, it helps indicate the rhythm change to players
26. 04:27:852 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - I like this rhythm http://puu.sh/rfX05/39a779ac03.jpg for that part
27. 04:30:852 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - niceee
28. 04:32:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - my hand :') (it's fine tho)
29. 05:44:352 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - tbh I liked the flow here 00:41:335 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - better :')
30. 05:23:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - The jumps in this section deserves to be spacier imo. I can hear a slow build up in the music. also imo the slow and lengthy sliders dont fit the pace of that part. pls fix ((
31. 05:35:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this stream can be a bit spacier imo. listen to how loud the drums are here

nubery wrote:

Sorry about the really long mod, but I can listen to this song all day Not at all! I appreciate detailed mods

[General]

1. Nothing

[Sayonara]

1. One thing I noticed while playtesting is that the flow is good, good job on that Thanks >///<
2. Try to not use finish hitsounds too loosely, they're generally used for cymbal crashes in mapping rock/pop/metal music, etc. While I think in electronic music like dubstep people use it for other sounds, anyway... Like here 01:18:851 (1) - it shouldnt be used. 00:59:351 (1) - here was good. If you want to emphasize vocals, generally people use whistle. Alright thanks I might have to redo the hitsounding anyways. Its not the best I know of that
3. There are a few blankets you need to fix but I wont mention all of them, only the most obvious ones, because I dont want this to become a blanket mod :^). You can go back and find them on your own
4. Minor detail but shouldnt these be spaced the same? what I mean is http://puu.sh/rfSEE/f2f800159f.jpg Yes they should my bad
5. 00:38:354 (1) - This pentagon can be moved to make the pentagon look nicer. Heck, if you want, you can even use the slider to blanket the 2 http://puu.sh/rfT1a/08c8fd6b46.jpg Done
6. 00:41:335 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Nailed the rhythm Thanks ^-^
7. 00:49:038 (2,6) - ewww theyre barely touching Fixed
8. 00:58:414 (4,1,2) - This part was unexpected while playtesting, flow felt a bit off since you're moving in a straight line, have to stop to click, then continue in the same direction with higher speed. I recommend something like this: http://puu.sh/rfTIV/032c0d6cb1.jpg Agreed it does feel a bit weird. Changed it
9. 01:00:851 (1,2,3,4) - ? there is a slight overlap with (4) and the sldier so I fixed that
10. 01:02:351 (1,1) - eww theyre barely touching Fixed
11. 01:10:601 (5,6) - play this part of the music at 50%, the beatsnap divisor is actually 1/6 i think. you might have to confirm, i dont trust my ears Hm hard to tell but I think 1/4 is fine
12. 01:25:601 (3) - sliderhead here sounds like a snare, should use clap for that. there are more of those throughout the song but im too lazy to find them all ok changed it
13. 01:24:851 (1,2,3,4) - glad youre not ignoring the vocalist here : D
    02:23:352 (1,3) - eww, they're like, touching Fixed
14. 01:34:602 (15) - theyre barely touching eww. move it away Fixed
15. 01:35:351 (1,3) - stack 3 to head of 1 Done
16. 01:53:352 (1,6) - stack 6 onto 1 Done
17. 01:55:602 (4,5,6) - blanket maybe? http://puu.sh/rfVOB/a50f8213a8.jpg Done
18. 01:55:602 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - <3 <3
19. 01:59:352 (1,2) - blanket like dis http://puu.sh/rfVV8/e80669c7be.jpg I dont get this one.. Doesnt it look like this already? xD
20. 02:05:352 (1,2,3) - 02:06:477 (6,7,8) - these parts are overmapped
21. 02:40:602 (3,4) - 1/6 i think Hm yes you might be right buit its just minimal on this double and for the gameplay I stick with 1/4 here.. inb4 aginst ranking criteria
22. 02:54:852 (1,2,3,4,5) - :D
    03:02:914 (2,3,4,1) - what are you mapping to here? At first I thought it was lyrics, but you ignored the vocal on the red tick. Not instrument either since you ignored the percussion on the white tick Changed it. Its on the drums
23. 03:17:914 (2) - blanket a tad off Changed
24. 03:18:664 (2,3,4) - overmap Fixed it
25. 03:46:602 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - consider making it colorful :^) http://puu.sh/rfWwT/567535e4f6.jpg universal sign for change to 1/3, it helps indicate the rhythm change to players Done
26. 04:27:852 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - I like this rhythm http://puu.sh/rfX05/39a779ac03.jpg for that part Keeping the jumps to wake up the players Kappa
27. 04:30:852 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - niceee Someone actually likes it :' )
28. 04:32:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - my hand :') (it's fine tho) : D
29. 05:44:352 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - tbh I liked the flow here 00:41:335 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - better :') THis one is more spaced
30. 05:23:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - The jumps in this section deserves to be spacier imo. I can hear a slow build up in the music. also imo the slow and lengthy sliders dont fit the pace of that part. pls fix (( Increase spacing here 05:21:852 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
31. 05:35:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this stream can be a bit spacier imo. listen to how loud the drums are here I thought I wont overdo it since its cuirved that much. Additional spacing here would just boost the star rating even more

Enjoyable map, had a lot of fun modding it. Thanks a lot and ty for the mod <3
Good luck!

Rookie modder here. So just take w/e fits you.

1. SPOILER

   
   I edited a 192kbps version of this song, take it if you want https://www.dropbox.com/s/criz7xcfcvqmgc8/Sayonara%20Memories.mp3?dl=0
2. If you add a note here 00:38:916 (3) you should another note here 00:39:667 as well.
3. 00:40:698 - Add a note here?
4. 00:44:241 - ^
5. 01:04:601 (3) - Need a fix bc there's a drumbeat at the blue tick? It doesn't feel the same as 01:03:851 (1,2) or 01:04:976 (4) .
6. 01:24:476 (5) - NC?
7. 01:26:351 (1) - Super weird...Better not NC here, instead NC 01:26:726 (2)?
8. 01:29:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Making them all NC? That would be more interesting
9. 01:38:352 (1) - ^, NC 01:38:913 (2) instead?
10. 02:03:102 (2,3) - Keep them vertically straight?
11. 02:24:852 (1,2,3,4) - Would it work better like this? https://puu.sh/rhtEm/5da1f8fee9.png//https://puu.sh/rhtFx/fa8fbd7239.png
12. 02:38:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Here you don't use NC whereas 02:41:352 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) you use 4 different NC. The star shape is not that blatant so better make them consistent imo.
13. 02:40:602 (3,4) - Better flow like this?
    SPOILER

    
14. 02:45:477 (6) - NC?
15. 02:47:258 - Add a note here.
16. 02:49:414 (2) - Your last slider 02:48:852 (1) ends at the drumbeat, should this end at the white tick here 02:49:602 as well?
17. 02:56:914 (1) - Don't think it needs to be repeated.
18. 04:32:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - How about 4 per NC?
19. 05:10:977 (1,2) - This jump..uhm...I have no problem with it but the increase in distance is a bit uneven comparing with those previous.
20. 05:32:352 (1) - There should be a triples, so I would be a note here 05:31:977 (4) instead of a slider.
21. 05:35:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 4 per NC?

I think players with similar skill as me would definitely enjoy this map. がんばって！！

Nostalgic wrote:

• Sayonara

1. [spoilerbox][/spoilerbox
   ]I edited a 192kbps version of this song, take it if you want [url]https://www.dropbox.com/s/criz7xcfcvqmgc8/Sayonara%20Memories.mp3?dl=0ty[/url]
2. If you add a note here 00:38:916 (3) you should another note here 00:39:667 as well.
3. 00:40:698 - Add a note here? Mapping the guitar here not the drums
4. 00:44:241 - ^ Added
5. 01:04:601 (3) - Need a fix bc there's a drumbeat at the blue tick? It doesn't feel the same as 01:03:851 (1,2) or 01:04:976 (4) . When I add a note on the blue tick I would have to remove the note on the red tick but that would ruin the flow
6. 01:24:476 (5) - NC? Only if I was mapping on the vocals here but Im pointing out the... idk that instruments name haha
7. 01:26:351 (1) - Super weird...Better not NC here, instead NC 01:26:726 (2)? NC here implies a change of DS or a break. This case the little break
8. 01:29:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Making them all NC? That would be more interesting THat would have no purpose and be just spammed. The HP is not that high that I would need that
9. 01:38:352 (1) - ^, NC 01:38:913 (2) instead? I could Remove the NC on the following to make it less spammy but Removing it on (1) and NC on (2) would break up the combo pattern
10. 02:03:102 (2,3) - Keep them vertically straight? THat would mess up the star pattern 02:02:914 (1,2,3,1,2) -
11. 02:24:852 (1,2,3,4) - Would it work better like this? https://puu.sh/rhtEm/5da1f8fee9.png//https://puu.sh/rhtFx/fa8fbd7239.png Hmm I see no reason to change this but I fixed a stack on (2)
12. 02:38:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Here you don't use NC whereas 02:41:352 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) you use 4 different NC. The star shape is not that blatant so better make them consistent imo. You're right - fixed
13. 02:40:602 (3,4) - Better flow like this? THis works but I prefer mine
14. 02:45:477 (6) - NC? Drums again not vocal
15. 02:47:258 - Add a note here.
16. 02:49:414 (2) - Your last slider 02:48:852 (1) ends at the drumbeat, should this end at the white tick here 02:49:602 as well? I can see what you mean but I think the guitar is more present here than the drum
17. 02:56:914 (1) - Don't think it needs to be repeated. There is a small fading sound you can hear
18. 04:32:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - How about 4 per NC? 8 works fine. I could do 16 aswell but that looks to much
19. 05:10:977 (1,2) - This jump..uhm...I have no problem with it but the increase in distance is a bit uneven comparing with those previous.
20. 05:32:352 (1) - There should be a triples, so I would be a note here 05:31:977 (4) instead of a slider.
21. 05:35:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 4 per NC?No need

I think players with similar skill as me would definitely enjoy this map. がんばって！！ Thanks a lot for the mod!

Nickelony wrote:

00:36:480 (1) - curve too sharp, fix blanket to this: 00:37:041 (3) Fixed
00:44:803 (2) - pfix the blanket to this slider: 00:44:334 (4) Fixed
00:46:959 (5) - slider curve too sharp, make it softer: https://puu.sh/rhLSR.png Okay fixed now
00:47:352 (1,2,3,4) - please apply distance snap here since it's ultra hard to read. I used DS ?__?
02:32:352 (1,2,3,4) - ^ ^
01:13:976 (4) - this slider looks sooooooo bad, maybe just make 2 stacked circles. Changed the slider
01:26:351 (1) - fix blanket to this: 01:25:601 (3) - ? Done
01:31:977 (8) - nc That would mess up the stars tho
01:39:102 (1) - the slider curve looks terrible, how about making just a simple curve? https://puu.sh/rhM9P.png It also improves the gameplay. Changed it
01:54:852 (1) - maybe just a simple curve here? (if yes, then blanket to this: 01:55:414 (3) - !) Done and done
01:56:352 (1) - place it slightly lower. (x:192 y:320 should be fine.) fixed
02:06:477 (6) - nc Done
02:12:852 (1) - fix blanket to this: 02:13:227 (3) - (I recommend you to re-check every blanket and use grid snap 4 and the approach circle as hint.) Fixed.. yesh Im not that good with all those blankets.. I have to pay more attention to it while mapping
02:40:602 (3,4) - make it a slider with a reverse arrow so you get a triplet. https://puu.sh/rhMvx.png Fixed
02:50:352 (1) - you broke the blanket, maybe do it like this: https://puu.sh/rhMB5.png Fixed I think
03:03:664 - add note here. Done
03:19:789 (8,1) - blanket? Fixed
03:23:352 (1) - please no such waves. Try this: https://puu.sh/rhMNc.png by rotating this: https://puu.sh/rhMP4.png Changed it but had to morph it a bit to fit the following sliders
03:46:602 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - unrankable combo changing. Is it really unrankable? Im sure I saw it before on ranked maps. Its just to highlight the change to 1/3 - https://osu.ppy.sh/b/861381 at 00:55:354
05:03:852 (7) - nc Done
05:07:602 (2) - nc Done

That's all.

Good luck!

Zhuriel wrote:

hi there, from my queue. you were request #7 (first after the testing phase) with a priority of 25, this is mod #4.

SPOILER

1. 00:33:667 (1,2) - i'd increase the spacing here, the 2 feels a bit too weak compared to 3
2. 00:33:667 (1,2) - seems really weird to map some of the long guitar notes as sliders and some as circles, use sliders everywhere Im not sure what you mean. Are you saying its better to use slider on 2 and 3? If so I disagree
3. 00:45:834 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - hear the piano and snare here? it's grouped 3-3-2, so group your nc's accordingly also hitsound it to that because what is it even hitsounded to now Im confused did you link the right timestamp?
4. 00:47:352 (1,2,3,4,5) - having this low spacing right after a stream that looks basically the same and never using it again is kinda dumb, space it like the rest of the section I kept the spacing here but increased it here 00:46:959 (5,1) - so its easier to read
5. 00:47:352 - this entire section i can't really see the logic behind the rhythm choices. 00:48:101 (5,6) - here you seem to map to vocals but then don't at 00:48:851 (1,2,3,4) - then you map the same two sliders into nothing special at 00:51:101 (5,6) - so it seems you're just using a repeating pattern but then break it with 00:53:726 (3,4,5) - only to match the vocals again at 00:55:226 (3,4,5) -
6. 01:02:351 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - can we (not just you so don't take this too personally) please stop this 2-combo jumpspam shit? it's not a particularly intense part and nor is the comboing indicated by any pattern in the music, if anything 4 notes would make more sense since the drum pattern repeats then, plus it only shows up once in this part which doesn't make too much sense Fixed
7. 01:12:851 (2,5) - nc these two since they start a new measure and having a long combo on such a slow pattern is weird Fixed
8. 01:15:851 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - here the comboing kinda makes sense because of the vocals but i'm still not a big fan
9. 01:30:852 (5,9,13) - nc for new measure okay fixed
10. 01:41:352 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - kinda works here too but you combo it entirely differently later on for essentially the same pattern, decide on one version (i personally recommend the one with longer combos) and stick with it. 01:41:352 (1) - 01:41:352 (1) - seem more emphasized here though so 4 would still be the better grouping
11. 01:58:977 - would probably be nicer to have this clickable and have something at 01:59:164 - too since the gap feels kind of empty Replaced the slider with notes and added one note aswell
12. 02:07:789 (1,2,3) - move the nc to 2 since that's the start of the vocal phrase, and maybe remove the one on 1 after Removed it
13. 02:11:352 (1,2,3) - be consistent with the first repetition of this pattern at the beginning here. also the end of 3 should probably be clickable, the gap here feels really off Filled the gap
14. 02:20:727 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - listen to the groupings again, you're comboing the part that's grouped in 2 in 3 and vice versa. you do it right at 02:02:352 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - for reference Changed it
15. 02:45:102 (5) - sliders in this part mostly make sense except for this one Replaced it
16. 03:29:352 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - at least stick to the same ncing pattern within one jump section Fixed
17. 04:11:352 - rhythm choices in this section feel very weird again
18. 04:35:352 - combo the patterns here shorter Fixed
19. 04:38:164 (1) - ends on a more emphasized note than it starts don't do that. same for 04:39:477 (7,10) - and a bunch of others in this section I dont want to emphazise the piano here
20. 05:33:852 (1,2,3,4) - 3-3-2 grouping doesn't make much sense here, there's not much emphasis but the main beats on the bass drum Okay you lost me here again.. 3-3-2 grouping? What do you mean there are 2 repeaters followed by 2 kickslider..
21. 05:54:710 - for things like this i like to add a note on the beat and start the spinner just after because clicking and getting a hitsound is much more powerful than starting to spin

flow-wise i can't find much to complain about, spacing makes sense too in general so it's already better than the other map for this song i modded

lot of the stuff repeats and i'm not gonna point out every single one of them so go look for more yourself

didn't comment much on the hitsounds because they didn't seem done, if that was supposed to be the case then oops i guess work on them a bit more

Domi200 wrote:

00:33:667 (1,2) - seems really weird to map some of the long guitar notes as sliders and some as circles, use sliders everywhere Im not sure what you mean. Are you saying its better to use slider on 2 and 3? If so I disagree

00:45:834 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - hear the piano and snare here? it's grouped 3-3-2, so group your nc's accordingly also hitsound it to that because what is it even hitsounded to now Im confused did you link the right timestamp?

04:38:164 (1) - ends on a more emphasized note than it starts don't do that. same for 04:39:477 (7,10) - and a bunch of others in this section I dont want to emphazise the piano here

05:33:852 (1,2,3,4) - 3-3-2 grouping doesn't make much sense here, there's not much emphasis but the main beats on the bass drum Okay you lost me here again.. 3-3-2 grouping? What do you mean there are 2 repeaters followed by 2 kickslider..

• 
  [Sayonara]

1. 00:37:041 (3,2) - stackミスかな？
2. 00:44:147 (3) - 今までの感じでNCつけましょう
3. 00:47:352 (1,2,3,4) - 突然のDS変化についていけません少し離しましょう
4. 00:48:101 (5,1) - stackしてないです
   意図ならスルーしてください
5. 00:58:977 (2,1) - ^
6. 01:01:226 (2,3,4) - 全てにfinishはいらないです
7. 01:11:352 (1,1) - blanketになってないです
   
   
8. 01:11:352 (1,2) - (1)の折り返し部分を(2)の始点に重ねてみてはどうでしょう？
   
   
9. 01:18:101 (3,1) - こっちもstackしませんか？
10. 01:25:226 (2,4) - finishうるさいので外してもいいかも
11. 01:47:351 (1,1,1,2,3) - 自分は良いと思いますがあまり楽しくはなさそうです
12. 02:09:102 (1,1) - ちゃんとstackできたら綺麗だなって思いました

1. 00:35:355 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3) - A lot of 1/1 space in this section.
2. 00:47:352 (1,2,3,4) - space these out a little
3. 01:06:476 (5,1,2) - kind of broke the flow here
4. 01:11:352 (1,1,2,3,1) - Imo, I wouldn't of mapped to the piano, it'll throws player off when playing something calm coming to 01:15:851 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - because of the intensity of the jumps
5. 01:26:352 (1,2) - should be a 1/1 slider
6. 01:27:664 - completely ignored, there should be a note here
7. 01:42:851 (1,2,3) - feels out of place, rhythm like this would of been suited best here 01:44:164 -
8. 02:08:352 (1,1,1) - illuminati confirmed
9. 02:47:352 (8,1) - off rhythm
   
   I feel like I'll be repeating myself if I continue, this map does need a lot of work. There is an over use of single notes and jumps. Spacing does needs to be fixed and rhythm also. I would advice to look over your map for these and try to improve it ^^
   

Kujinn wrote:

NM from Queue

[Sayonara]

1. 00:35:355 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3) - A lot of 1/1 space in this section.
2. 00:47:352 (1,2,3,4) - space these out a little Done
3. 01:06:476 (5,1,2) - kind of broke the flow here Changed it a bit but Im not sure if it was off.. I feltz good to me
4. 01:11:352 (1,1,2,3,1) - Imo, I wouldn't of mapped to the piano, it'll throws player off when playing something calm coming to 01:15:851 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - because of the intensity of the jumps I didnt map to the piano there at all. I think those jumps are still okay, its not like they're screenjumps
5. 01:26:352 (1,2) - should be a 1/1 slider Im not mapping on the voice here
6. 01:27:664 - completely ignored, there should be a note here I dont think so?= You could make a 1/1 slider there I guess but that wouldnt emphasize enough
7. 01:42:851 (1,2,3) - feels out of place, rhythm like this would of been suited best here 01:44:164 - I stick with my version
8. 02:08:352 (1,1,1) - illuminati confirmed Very
9. 02:47:352 (8,1) - off rhythm
   

KuroNeko1509 wrote:

[Sayonara]

1. 00:37:041 (3,2) - fix overlap Fixed
   
   
2. 00:47:914 (4,5,1) - ^ Fixed
   
   
3. 01:18:101 (3,1) - ^ Try avoiding overlaps, but if you can at least make them consistent Fixed
   
   
4. 02:35:727 (3,2) - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ pls fix all the nasty overlaps go over your map and fix them <3 Fixed
   
   
5. 04:40:414 (10,1) - ^ Fixed
   
   
6. 00:44:896 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2) - jumps are too small and are not able to emphasize the intensity of the part... also overlaps llook messy. make jumps follow the music, so when music is becoming more intense jumps should get more intense as well, and same when music is becoming less intense, but in your map they are always the same distance apart despite the fact that sound is larger or lower. Not sure what you mean since I increased the DS on those 00:45:834 (1,2,1,2) - ?_?
   
   
7. 01:15:851 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^ imo those are fine at a constant DS here
   
   
8. 01:27:851 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^ Indreased it a bit here
   
   
9. 03:03:289 (3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) - ^ Increased it on the 2 strong beats
   
   
10. 03:27:852 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^ I guess this could be increased but not
    
    
11. 04:05:352 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - ^ Im keeping the DS here. I increased it on the important parts
    
    
12. 04:56:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^ ^
    
    
13. 05:20:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2,1) - ^ ^
    
    
14. 01:51:851 (4) - slider doesnt emphasize the intensity of the part, make it into notes and then 01:52:226 (1,2,3,4) - ^ I think this is fine. there is no need to overspace the entire map. I mean I guess you could do it but I dont think its fitting
    
    
15. 00:58:976 (2,1) - stacking error Fixed
    
    
16. 02:35:539 (2,1) - ^ Fixed
    
    
17. 04:21:477 (5,2) - ^ Assuming you meant thi 04:22:414 (2) - - fixed
    
    
18. 03:03:852 (1,3) - ^ (if its not meant to be stacked then its overlapping error lol) I dont see it I might have fixed it already
    
19. 04:58:414 (2,2) - ^ (if its not meant to be stacked then its overlapping error lol) Fixed
    
20. 01:04:601 (3) - theres a large sound at white tic and red tic, and youre only following one of them, add there http://puu.sh/rnH1G/b917a82fb9.jpg If I would change that I would have to set a triple there but its not fitting into the flow here so I simplyfy it
    
21. 01:11:352 (1) - 01:14:351 (1) - I think this is not the best place to use these sliders, they are covering too many drum sounds which i think isnt good... Besides, 01:14:351 (1) - ends on blue tic which makes it even worse
    
22. 03:42:477 (5) - ^ Slow down intended
    
23. 01:26:726 (2,3,4,5,6) - here on the other hand, you could make jumps a little less spaced so that jumps after that will stand out more due to the intensifying sound. imo the DS is fine
    
24. 01:38:352 (1) - Youre ignoring large super noticable sound over here, the red tic should be recognized and clickable or something. 01:39:102 (1,1) - these 2 sliders dont have sound in the middle so they are fine, but this 01:38:352 (1) - one def. has to be fixed Thats not quite right Im focusing on the vocals to emphasize the upcoming kiai time. Chaning only the first slider also would make it inconsistent in mapping
    
25. 03:14:352 (1) - ^ has large sound in the middle and it shouldnt be ignore imo... ^
    
26. 04:26:352 (1) - ^ ^
    
27. 05:43:227 (6) - ^ Im emphasizing the guitar in the entiore part here. So I wont break it up to emphaziose one more drum sound
    
28. 01:41:538 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - since this is kiai part-the intense part, you should make everything a bit more intense in kiai parts Not sure what you mean.. If you are pointing out that I didnt change the DS here, then you obv dont get the relation between DS and SV.. That part is more spaced up
29. 02:02:352 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - why NC is so random? try to keep it plain where you add it downbeats... Its not random
    
30. 02:05:352 (1,2,3,4) - mm you could make this into 2 sliders that are reversing... will follow music way better imo, so delete notes and just make slider reverse until part where notes used to be I dont see how that would work out
    
31. 02:17:352 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - in part like this where you try to make it symmetrical, you should actually use symmetrical commands, so like make one slider and copy it, then move on to the time section where you want another slider to be, paste it, flip it whichever way you like. Repeat for all the sliders and taaadaaan perfectly symmetric sliders. lol. But if you dont wanna make them symmetric, dont place them like that Euhm thats exactly how I did it but ok
    
32. 05:44:352 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - ^
    
33. 03:16:789 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - feel like this part will be better if youd delete the stream and make it a 1/4 reverse slider Considirng there is a jumppart following I keep the stream but ofc you could make it with sliders. I prefer not to in this part
    
34. 04:29:352 (1,2,1,2) - I feel like if youre making something like this then you should make them equally spread, so 4 reverses on each slider would be good imo No its intended and indicates the player it will speed up in pace
    
35. 04:33:758 (8,1,2) - This kind of curve on the stream isnt the best idea Why?
    
36. 04:35:539 (2,3,4,5,6) - too intense, this should be jumps... i think it would be better if youd make them into something liek this http://puu.sh/rnLRU/3ebca3bd27.jpg lol, idk into something that requires very little movement. eh? You're not making sense here so Im not sure what6 you mean. if you play that part you will notice tho that this spacing is nothing compared to the rest
    
37. 04:38:539 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^ ^
    
38. 04:36:852 (1) - feel like just making it a long slider (1/1) would be better than reverse slider I dont think so
    
39. 04:39:477 (7) - ^ except that it would be a 1/2 slider, and then on the big white tic, the downbeat add a note Im mapping on the vocals here..
    
40. 04:46:414 (3,4) - make a slider Fixed
    
41. 05:00:477 (1,2,3) - reverse this selection, so that it will be s-c-c No
    
42. 05:04:602 (3,4,5) - decrease distance Fixed
    
43. 05:15:852 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - feels weird, especially the short slider, stream is fine just decrease distance between notes a little I like how you want me to make my entire jumps mopre spaced on every little drum beat but on a increasing stream beat you want to decrease it Not a fan of streams?
    
44. 05:17:914 (4,5,6) - decrease distance ^

Akali wrote:

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00:36:104 (4,4) - lead guitar is kinda long and whole things keeps flowing, would just 1/2 sliders so there is no empty space Okay since several people mentioned this now I will change it

00:39:479 (5) - ^ Changed it

02:47:164 (7,8) - missing drums Fixed

03:31:414 (4,5) - ^ + no real reason for 03:31:320 (3) - vocals have 2 syllables not free and this background noise doesn't sound like it should be mapped Fixed (3)

03:50:164 (5) - overmapped Fixed

03:51:664 (3) - overmapped (vocal syllable ENDING not starting shouldn't be mapped as an clickable object) Fixed

04:07:789 (2,3,4) - these are 1/6 dunno about simplifying like that I think I keep them this way

04:35:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - death stream is ok if you really want it, but this part of music is so calm after it that you probably should map it with sliders, this is sort of suprising/hard accuracy wise + it's mapped only to vocals which aren't so selective rhythmically. Also sudden hitsound volume drop is confusing, 04:35:352 (1) - at least have this the volume of the stream before I made the hitsound on 04:35:352 (1) - louder

04:51:477 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this rhythm doesn't make any sense at all here, keep stuff on beat Changed it

05:39:102 (4,3) - this guitar is too strong here to map it with slider ends and have akward space on it Not sure whats wrong with it? I also use it consistent like this on the next parts

1. BG should be 1366x768 not 1300x732.
2. Try lowering the OD to 7 or so, 8 seems like too much.
3. Your tags are rather empty. Add these: "さよならメモリーズ Ryo Today Is A Beautiful Day Sony Music Records" Source.
4. Your hitsounding isn't really that much aside from finishes, try to experiment a little bit, and add some more in, because there are a lot of prominent beats that aren't being hitsounded in this song. Please don't overuse the finish sound. ;w;

1. 00:27:292 - If you're going to follow the kicks at 00:28:042 - to 00:29:167 - , I would suggest making the start of them at 00:27:667 - clickable, or else it seems like you're still following the piano.
2. 00:45:085 - / 00:45:459 - / 00:46:209 - These finishes seem a bit excessive, since they're not emphasizing anything that really stands out, just the middle beats. I'd suggest removing these, but if you wanted to, add a finish at 00:46:397 - to match with the one at 00:45:834 - and follow the build up that's going on here.
3. 00:47:352 - to 00:47:914 - Maybe try a different kind of shape with these circles, because the patterning looks very similar to the stream you just had a moment before at 00:46:585 - to 00:46:866 - , so they could be misread as being the same. Also the fact that they look very close together. zz
4. 00:49:227 - Weird that you used a slider for the held out vocals at 00:48:102 - and 00:48:477 - , but not here.
5. 00:57:852 - This would work out better as a slider than the one you have at 00:58:414 - , since it would actually be following something that's being held out. Something like this might work for you.
6. 00:29:566 - Unsnapped slider end.
7. 01:01:986 - Unsnapped slider start.
8. 01:02:173 - Unsnapped slider end.
9. 02:51:660 - Unsnapped timing point.

Ayyri wrote:

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[General]

1. BG should be 1366x768 not 1300x732. Changed it
2. Try lowering the OD to 7 or so, 8 seems like too much. I think 8 is totally fine for this difficulty
3. Your tags are rather empty. Add these: "さよならメモリーズ Ryo Today Is A Beautiful Day Sony Music Records" Source. Added thanks
4. Your hitsounding isn't really that much aside from finishes, try to experiment a little bit, and add some more in, because there are a lot of prominent beats that aren't being hitsounded in this song. Please don't overuse the finish sound. ;w;

I will ltry to rework the hitsounding

[Sayonara]

1. 00:27:292 - If you're going to follow the kicks at 00:28:042 - to 00:29:167 - , I would suggest making the start of them at 00:27:667 - clickable, or else it seems like you're still following the piano. Fixed
2. 00:45:085 - / 00:45:459 - / 00:46:209 - These finishes seem a bit excessive, since they're not emphasizing anything that really stands out, just the middle beats. I'd suggest removing these, but if you wanted to, add a finish at 00:46:397 - to match with the one at 00:45:834 - and follow the build up that's going on here.Removed it but it will be reowrked anyways~
3. 00:47:352 - to 00:47:914 - Maybe try a different kind of shape with these circles, because the patterning looks very similar to the stream you just had a moment before at 00:46:585 - to 00:46:866 - , so they could be misread as being the same. Also the fact that they look very close together. zz I think its reabable enough. I used a higher spacing on that part
4. 00:49:227 - Weird that you used a slider for the held out vocals at 00:48:102 - and 00:48:477 - , but not here. It felt too boring that way
5. 00:57:852 - This would work out better as a slider than the one you have at 00:58:414 - , since it would actually be following something that's being held out. Something like this might work for you. I see nothing wrong with my version here?
6. 00:29:566 - Unsnapped slider end. Fixed
7. 01:01:986 - Unsnapped slider start. Fixed
8. 01:02:173 - Unsnapped slider end. Fixed
9. 02:51:660 - Unsnapped timing point.Fixed

I'm going to stop here for now, since I have some studying to do. ;w; Sorry. >w<

Sayonara

1. really think you should map the piano intro as that part is intense enough to deserve to be mapped, you probably need flow time it with a lot of red line, but I personally think it would be worth the effort
2. 00:27:480 - you skip a piano and drum sounds here, I think you were trying to add more emphasis on 00:27:667 (1) - through the gap but I think you can better do that with spacing instead of skipping out on your main layer. Skipping 00:28:230 - makes a bit more sense as you seem to switch to drum emphasis after 1, but even here i think adding a circle or slider end would be better
3. 00:33:667 (1,2,3) - 2 gets a lot less emphasis than 3 as it's so close to 1, I think CTRL + G would help emphasize 2 and 3 the same while still keeping your visuals intact
4. 00:38:354 (1,2,3,4) - would recommend stack leniency 6 or lower so 1/1 stacks like these overlap perfectly, looks a bit nicer and adds differentiation from 1/2 stacks
5. 00:40:417 - you skipped a snare sound here which is really important from my perspective: I think a slider end here would fit to not add too much emphasis on it as opposed to the melody.
6. 00:43:586 (1) - has a different sound on it (a tom before that is was cymbals) so add some variation like using 2 circles here, you can do something else ofc
7. 00:44:896 (1,2,3,4,5) - really don't get why these don't have the same 1 2 NC pattern as the rest of the section, I think that would more consistently represent the build up in intensity
8. 00:46:959 (5,1) - 1 is really strong, but spacing into is is really low which feels anti-climactic and adds a sudden break in momentum
9. 00:47:352 (1,2,3,4,5) - all these overlap while rest of the section is spaced, I think making them overlap so much here breaks the momentum too much and feels really inconsistent with the rest of the section. highly suggest using something more spaced to keep everything consistent
10. 00:58:038 (2,3,4) - this might seem odd, but I'd suggest removing these notes to express the lack in instrumentation. In case that seems too odd maybe try something like drastically lower rhythm density something like this for example
11. 01:04:601 (3) - there's a double here in the song which would be worth mapping as there isn't any other layer in the way in terms of emphasis like before 01:04:601 (3) - you could also using something like a sliders to make the double more comfortable rhythm wise
12. 01:38:539 - you skip a strong snare sound here, there aren't any in these 2 01:39:102 (1,1) - so it would make sense to add something there to make it stand out
13. 01:55:602 (4,5,6,8,9,1) - these triples both have different sounds they follow so it would make sense to add some differentiation between them, like making one stacked or one a repeat slider you can do a few things to express that
14. 02:12:102 (3,1,2,3) - there are strong guitar sounds on the end of 3 and these two circles 02:12:852 (2,3) - 1 has a rather weak sound which makes your rhythm here kinda weird. It would make more sense to use something like this would better suit the strong sounds in the music
15. 00:35:355 - is the same as 02:11:352 - but the first one is way less intense and there's a huge difference in SV (1x vs. 1.4x). The Song progressed a bit, but I don't think that justifies one being more or less intense than the other to this degree. Would suggest changing the 2nd part to be more like the first, which would in turn also make the chorus stand out more
16. Similar to above you started using 1 2 NC really consistently in this part 02:26:352 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 02:29:352 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - etc. but the same section earlier in the song doesn't use any 1 2 NC 00:48:851 (1,2,3,4) - 00:50:351 (1,2,3,4) - the 2nd one now is more intense, but nothing really warrants using a different NC system so I suggest you make either of the sections more consistent with the other... also using less 1 2 NC would be better imo to make more special jump sections stand out more
17. 03:05:352 - 1/1 spacing in this transition seems confusing as 1/1 is spaced almost as much as the 1/2 pattern before it. It would make more sense to either make all the 1/1 A LOT more spaced or increase the spacing of the 1/2 pattern while starting the 1/1 jumps with REALLY low spacing so contrast between the 2 rhythms is obvious. You can additionally use sliders or something else to make rhythm clearer
18. 03:46:602 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - I see you're already using NC spam to hint at the 1/3, but I'd also use more spacing to make it more obvious it isn't 1/4 as you use spacing very similar to 1/4 (example 03:22:602 (4,5,6) - )
19. 05:04:602 (3,4,5) - using spaced 1/4 5 minutes into your map isn't a good idea as this can be highly unpredictable without introducing spaced 1/4 earlier in the map. Besides that the intensity isn't much higher than the other kiais in the song so using spacing this high seems inconsistent
20. 05:29:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - intensity drops here a lot, but spacing and rhythm density is still very high compared to previous patterns for example 05:23:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It would make more sense to use lower rhythm density with a lot of sliders
21. 05:54:710 (2) - is a lot more intense than 05:53:270 (3,1) - but they are spaced almost the same, it would make more sense to use higher spacing

Celektus wrote:

Sayonara

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1. really think you should map the piano intro as that part is intense enough to deserve to be mapped, you probably need flow time it with a lot of red line, but I personally think it would be worth the effort | Im not too confident in mapping this intro and I dont think its that intense, so starting the map at my timestamp should be ok
2. 00:27:480 - you skip a piano and drum sounds here, I think you were trying to add more emphasis on 00:27:667 (1) - through the gap but I think you can better do that with spacing instead of skipping out on your main layer. Skipping 00:28:230 - makes a bit more sense as you seem to switch to drum emphasis after 1, but even here i think adding a circle or slider end would be better | I skipped it here to shift the emphazise to the drums and highlight the start of 00:29:355 (1) - a bit more. Imo adding the piano sounds to the drums would overload the flow
3. 00:33:667 (1,2,3) - 2 gets a lot less emphasis than 3 as it's so close to 1, I think CTRL + G would help emphasize 2 and 3 the same while still keeping your visuals intact | Agreed that is better
4. 00:38:354 (1,2,3,4) - would recommend stack leniency 6 or lower so 1/1 stacks like these overlap perfectly, looks a bit nicer and adds differentiation from 1/2 stacks | Yea thats true they do look better now
5. 00:40:417 - you skipped a snare sound here which is really important from my perspective: I think a slider end here would fit to not add too much emphasis on it as opposed to the melody. | Added
6. 00:43:586 (1) - has a different sound on it (a tom before that is was cymbals) so add some variation like using 2 circles here, you can do something else ofc | I dont think that would fit in here. It would kinda break the flow and the difference in sound is very faintly
7. 00:44:896 (1,2,3,4,5) - really don't get why these don't have the same 1 2 NC pattern as the rest of the section, I think that would more consistently represent the build up in intensity @ Imo there is a slight increase there so I went from star to 1,2 jumps to emphazise this. Its faintly but I dont think its hurting the flow like it is.
8. 00:46:959 (5,1) - 1 is really strong, but spacing into is is really low which feels anti-climactic and adds a sudden break in momentum | Hmm well tbh thats exactly what I tried to do
9. 00:47:352 (1,2,3,4,5) - all these overlap while rest of the section is spaced, I think making them overlap so much here breaks the momentum too much and feels really inconsistent with the rest of the section. highly suggest using something more spaced to keep everything consistent | Again from above. Not sure if its tooo anti-climatic, but ye thats what I intended
10. 00:58:038 (2,3,4) - this might seem odd, but I'd suggest removing these notes to express the lack in instrumentation. In case that seems too odd maybe try something like drastically lower rhythm density something like this for example | Sure this is possible but I think my version is fitting aswell. Lowering the density like in your example feels like mapping the vocals tho so I stick with my version for now.
11. 01:04:601 (3) - there's a double here in the song which would be worth mapping as there isn't any other layer in the way in terms of emphasis like before 01:04:601 (3) - you could also using something like a sliders to make the double more comfortable rhythm wise | Im following the guitar/bass here so I dont see how the double on the drum there is worth mapping and breaking the flow for it
12. 01:38:539 - you skip a strong snare sound here, there aren't any in these 2 01:39:102 (1,1) - so it would make sense to add something there to make it stand out | Changed it
13. 01:55:602 (4,5,6,8,9,1) - these triples both have different sounds they follow so it would make sense to add some differentiation between them, like making one stacked or one a repeat slider you can do a few things to express that | I can see what you mean but I dont see a nice and clean solution for it. I could make the second triple into a kickslider+note to kinda keepo the flow there but Im not happy with that either. So unless its a huge mistake, I'd like to keep it this way.
14. 02:12:102 (3,1,2,3) - there are strong guitar sounds on the end of 3 and these two circles 02:12:852 (2,3) - 1 has a rather weak sound which makes your rhythm here kinda weird. It would make more sense to use something like this would better suit the strong sounds in the music | Yes there is a weird rythm in my mapping. I wanted to emphazies the longr guitar stroke here a bit more. Your version doesnt emphazise that tho, so I made a simple longer slider, Not quite happy with it, but its fitting better to the rythm.
15. 00:35:355 - is the same as 02:11:352 - but the first one is way less intense and there's a huge difference in SV (1x vs. 1.4x). The Song progressed a bit, but I don't think that justifies one being more or less intense than the other to this degree. Would suggest changing the 2nd part to be more like the first, which would in turn also make the chorus stand out more | imo this part is a lot more intense than the first part at 0.35.. not sure if Im mistaken here but I think its clear, I even put the kiai there
16. Similar to above you started using 1 2 NC really consistently in this part 02:26:352 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 02:29:352 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - etc. but the same section earlier in the song doesn't use any 1 2 NC 00:48:851 (1,2,3,4) - 00:50:351 (1,2,3,4) - the 2nd one now is more intense, but nothing really warrants using a different NC system so I suggest you make either of the sections more consistent with the other... also using less 1 2 NC would be better imo to make more special jump sections stand out more | I would not agree that they are the same. THe vocal on the first part is way more intense. The only inconsistzency I could give you here would be the one 1,2 jump here 02:30:477 (1,2) - I could rearange this to a star pattern but I dsont think its such a throw off.
17. 03:05:352 - 1/1 spacing in this transition seems confusing as 1/1 is spaced almost as much as the 1/2 pattern before it. It would make more sense to either make all the 1/1 A LOT more spaced or increase the spacing of the 1/2 pattern while starting the 1/1 jumps with REALLY low spacing so contrast between the 2 rhythms is obvious. You can additionally use sliders or something else to make rhythm clearer | I increased the spacing
18. 03:46:602 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - I see you're already using NC spam to hint at the 1/3, but I'd also use more spacing to make it more obvious it isn't 1/4 as you use spacing very similar to 1/4 (example 03:22:602 (4,5,6) - ) | I think the previous sliders and the NC spam are hinting the change clearly enough.
19. 05:04:602 (3,4,5) - using spaced 1/4 5 minutes into your map isn't a good idea as this can be highly unpredictable without introducing spaced 1/4 earlier in the map. Besides that the intensity isn't much higher than the other kiais in the song so using spacing this high seems inconsistent | Changed it and made it more consistent with the other kiais
20. 05:29:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - intensity drops here a lot, but spacing and rhythm density is still very high compared to previous patterns for example 05:23:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - It would make more sense to use lower rhythm density with a lot of sliders | I prefer the singles here to keep the tension up and its also follwing the guitar
21. 05:54:710 (2) - is a lot more intense than 05:53:270 (3,1) - but they are spaced almost the same, it would make more sense to use higher spacing | Changed it.