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Krfawy

Joined March 2012

Krfawy 2017-08-03T19:02:49+00:00

Milar001 wrote:
Siemka wjeżdża modzik Dzieeeeń dooooobryyyyyy

[Krfawego Normalny]

00:15:642 (5) - Obróć trochę w lewo (anticlockwise), jako równoległe to nie wygląda dobrze Moim zdaniem mój pattern dobrze się i gra i dobrze też wygląda, zachowuję tak jak jest.
00:23:642 (1) - W ten sposób omijasz 00:24:531 , reszty sylab nie opuszczasz więc tu też coś daj Omijam część dźwięków tak aby było rytmicznie i nie za ciężko. To jest normal, nie mogę mapować każdego możliwego dźwięku i jakichś ofiar takie mapowanie wymaga. D:
00:28:087 (2) - ^ ^
00:30:753 (1) - ^ ^
00:32:531 (2) - Nie mam pojęcie do czego nawiązuje 00:33:198 Czuję o co chodzi ale na razie chcę zostawić to tak jak jest bo wzorek wygląda bardzo ładnie jak jest taka symetria a brzmi nie najgorzej. ;_; Ale jak faktycznie kolejna osoba to zgłosi to zmienię.
00:36:087 (4) - No nakręciłeś się na te półtorabeatowe slidery a na red tickach tam nic nie ma Tutaj trzymam rytmikę która brzmi dobrze ale również podkreśla zmianę na bardziej "dramatyczną" między innymi hitsoundami. No i mimo wszystko akurat ten rewers bardzo dobrze podkreśla dźwięki perkusji (kicki) które zaczynają się od tego momentu.
00:41:864 (5) - Od tego momentu do 00:44:531 (4) pakujesz za dużo w jedno miejsce Ym, a czy można to jakoś jaśniej określić, bo nie rozumiem co dokładnie masz na myśli. Jeżeli chodzi o to że kółka/slajdery są na tych samych wartościach na siatce to to akurat problem nie jest, gęstość obiektów też jest większa niż poprzednio ale moim zdaniem jeszcze da się znieść.
00:50:976 (3) - Nieczytelne Naprawione!
00:52:087 - Kolejny silny dźwięk ominięty No tutaj to też byłoby chamskie jakbym spamował ciągle obiektami no i do tego tutaj podkreślam wokal który jest narzędziem głównym.
00:53:642 - Tu też mógłbyś coś dać ^
00:55:643 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - Proste kopiuj wklej? Można to zrobić ciekawiej .3.
01:06:309 - Daj tu coś ^

Mam nadzieję że pomogłem Powodzenia Dziękuję za moda! :3

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XVoIR

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Topic Starter

XVoIR 2017-08-03T19:41:41+00:00

Milar001 wrote:
[Andrzej]

00:15:642 (4) -https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8736911 Może taki mniej zaokrąglony Tutaj to akurat bardzo ładny blankecik jest to no change
00:16:531 (1) - Robienie identycznego slidera kiepsko wygląda, obróć go trochę To nie jest identyczne, by było ale nie chciałem nagle wrzucać 2.0 SV
00:18:309 (1) - Zmień ten white tick na red Nie widzę powodu by to zmienić
00:19:864 (8) - Przy AR 8 jest to trochę mało widoczne Zmieniłem spacing
00:20:976 (3) - Łamie flow Not sure czy spacing teraz nie jest nieco błędny, ale zmieniłem lekko
00:23:531 - Daj tu kółko żeby pasowało do 00:19:864 (8,9,1) Teraz jest dobrze, odpowiednie wybicie słowa PRZEPRASZAM
00:30:087 (5,6) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8736948 Może tak? Flow będzie lepsze IMO teraz jest dobrze, grając to naturalnie wyczuwałem ten movement
00:48:531 (1) - Trochę to kiepsko wygląda imo, przesuń w prawo Jasne!
00:54:753 (4,5,1,2) - Fajny pattern No najlepszy na świecie!

Tak ogólnie popracuj nad estetyką diffa Teraz jest dobrze, nie ma żadnych overlapów które są brzydkie czy coś

[Ikswuar]

Mam nadzieję że pomogłem Powodzenia

Maxylan

242 posts

Joined May 2014

Maxylan 2017-08-05T18:35:48+00:00

I, don't really know polish... But let's hope we all know english because that's what this mod will be in!
Thanks for applying to my queue!

I'm going to mod the 3.15* difficulty here. This map is unfortunately quite bland... It's actually not a bad map for someone that's aspiring like yourself! Flow works and the sound emphasis is above average! What could use some work is the repetitive patterns, which could quite easily be solved through variation in jumps and sliders instead of having the same linear pattern.
For a start, you should introduce slider velocities into the map with green lines, you should also make sure that the sliders don't start and end on important sounds in the song, because that takes away all the power of the slider.
Here's a video of someone who can explain this 10x better than me
You should also introduce more variant in the patterns of your jumps and circles, creating more or less length in between circles/sliders depending on the intensity of the sound the circles are representing, this is also explained in the video above (I think).
00:11:864 (2,3) - This is a good example of something that breaks the common pattern you've used, but it's done in a way that breaks flow in an unnatural way.

Secondly, you should in the future not just map a song you like. But also think about how practical the song you wish to map really is!
Songs with less than 150 BPM can be really tricky for someone who's just starting out to actually map, because it's generally slower it's more difficult to introduce patterns and gameplay that doesn't turn out boring to play. Of course, this does not apply to all songs that are less than 150 BPM, but it's a good rule of thumb to avoid the maps regardless. Same goes for songs like this one where it sounds exactly the same throughout the entire song. This could've been 180BPM+ and still, it would be insanely difficult to map this song because it's so, repetitive.

This turned out more like an explanation. But since you're an aspiring mapper I think this will benefit you more rather than me highlighting every single note. Keep working hard on this map!!

ReFaller

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Joined August 2014

ReFaller 2017-09-07T11:21:25+00:00

Zupdatuj mojego diffa z reply na mod Bakarjego.

Justysuwu

184 posts

Joined July 2016

Justysuwu 2017-09-28T02:13:52+00:00

Siema

Coś na szybko

[Batorego Prosty]
00:36:087 (2) - skróć ten slider trochę i daj 3 powtórzenia

[Krfawego Normalny]
00:12:753 (5) - usuń bo to niepotrzebne
00:34:087 (3) - daj to kułko przed slider
01:07:198 (7,1) - zrób z tego jeden slider

[ReFallera Trudny]
00:55:198 (5,1) - dwa slidery po 1 beat zamiast tego slidera z kółkiem
00:40:976 (5,1) - ^

[Andrzej]
Prędkość slidera daj na 2,00 bo troche za wolne to jest
00:23:642 (1) - troszkę wyżej (około y:180)

ReFaller

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Joined August 2014

ReFaller 2017-09-28T10:42:21+00:00

MyAngelMeinter wrote:
Siema
Coś na szybko
[ReFallera Trudny]
00:55:198 (5,1) - dwa slidery po 1 beat zamiast tego slidera z kółkiem
00:40:976 (5,1) - ^

Te momenty followują za tym najbardziej słyszalnym poza wokalem synthem czy jak dokłądnie to sie zwie. Nie napisałeś mi również jakiej długości miałyby być te slidery.

Justysuwu

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Justysuwu 2017-09-28T14:00:22+00:00

ReFaller wrote:
Te momenty followują za tym najbardziej słyszalnym poza wokalem synthem czy jak dokłądnie to sie zwie. Nie napisałeś mi również jakiej długości miałyby być te slidery.

Sry źle napisałem chodziło mi o pół beatu slidery (coś takiego)

coś takiego

ReFaller

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Joined August 2014

ReFaller 2017-09-28T23:32:30+00:00

akurat na tej mapie tych syntów w takich sposób nie followuje

Voli

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Joined April 2013

Voli 2017-12-04T12:33:54+00:00

Hey, you requested sometime ago! ~~(or was it krfawy)~~

General

Is there any way you could make the difficulty names understandable for everyone?
I understand that they're themed and all, but I simply have to follow the rc: these difficulty names don't really indicate progression for anyone other than Polish speakers, sadly
Tags are inconsistent, please check that! (aimod)

Batorego Prosty

00:46:309 (4,5) - Triples like that have too complex rhythms for the lowest diff, I recommend leaving 00:46:531 (5) - out. Same for 01:00:753 (5) -

Krfawego Normalny

00:23:642 (1) - Cool symmetry but i really don't like how the reverse lands on such a passive vocal and then completely misses 00:24:531 - . Is there a way you could make the rhythm more truthful to the song here? Same goes for 00:30:753 (1) -, 00:32:531 (2) - , 00:36:087 (4) -, 01:03:198 (5) -
00:51:198 (4) - How about ctrl+j on this slider so the movement is more natural from 00:50:976 (3) - ? example: https://voli.s-ul.eu/qi3G8H7d.png

Refallera Trudny

00:13:642 (2,3) - Consider removing the stack? You rarely use them in this part, so you might as well stack the note with 00:12:753 (4) - so it has similar movement to 00:15:642 (3) -
00:17:420 - Wouldn't you want to make the first vocal here clickable too, just as 00:20:976 (2) - ?
00:38:309 (2) - Personal point, but imo it would be cool if you could make the wave a little more evident like this: https://voli.s-ul.eu/5vfdDoQq.png
00:50:309 (1) - 2 sliders would fit better with both the vocals and the underlying melody, imo

Andrzej

00:48:309 (4) - I understand you want to stack this for visual purposes, but imo the movement is rather unnatural. Consider blanket with 00:47:642 (3) - instead?
00:54:531 (3,4) - I don't think this stack follows the correct logic, holding momentum is rather strange when 00:54:753 (4) - is stronger/new vocal

Call me back!

deadpon3

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deadpon3 2017-12-04T13:48:18+00:00

Hype w chuj

XVoIR

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Topic Starter

XVoIR 2017-12-04T15:21:56+00:00

Voli wrote:
Hey, you requested sometime ago! ~~(or was it krfawy)~~ it was krfawy

General
Is there any way you could make the difficulty names understandable for everyone?
I understand that they're themed and all, but I simply have to follow the rc: these difficulty names don't really indicate progression for anyone other than Polish speakers, sadly Krfawy did the same thing in this mapset, so I think i'll put translations in the description
Tags are inconsistent, please check that! (aimod) Fixed!
Andrzej
00:48:309 (4) - I understand you want to stack this for visual purposes, but imo the movement is rather unnatural. Consider blanket with 00:47:642 (3) - instead? I guess it's blanketed (?) fine, not sure about DS but seems good.
00:54:531 (3,4) - I don't think this stack follows the correct logic, holding momentum is rather strange when 00:54:753 (4) - is stronger/new vocal Also fixed, but might change the pattern if needed
Call me back!

now i'm waiting for other responses

_handholding

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_handholding 2017-12-04T16:49:32+00:00

I love these Japanese diff names \ ( >w<)/

XVoIR

851 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

XVoIR 2017-12-04T17:18:02+00:00

ore wa ochinchin desu

ReFaller

1,233 posts

Joined August 2014

ReFaller 2017-12-04T21:05:36+00:00

Voli wrote:
ReFallera Trudny
00:13:642 (2,3) - Consider removing the stack? You rarely use them in this part, so you might as well stack the note with 00:12:753 (4) - so it has similar movement to 00:15:642 (3) - even if they are rare, i'm still open for using them
00:17:420 - Wouldn't you want to make the first vocal here clickable too, just as 00:20:976 (2) - ? in hards i don't make every vocal note as clickable and usually i'm not consistent with that
00:38:309 (2) - Personal point, but imo it would be cool if you could make the wave a little more evident like this: https://voli.s-ul.eu/5vfdDoQq.png i kept it as flat as it is, but i reshaped into standard wave
00:50:309 (1) - 2 sliders would fit better with both the vocals and the underlying melody, imo it could break my every sense of mapping that "secondary" sounds

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deadpon3

531 posts

Joined April 2013

deadpon3 2017-12-05T16:46:05+00:00

XVoIR wrote:
ore wa ochinchin desu

omae wa mou shindeiru

Voli

811 posts

Joined April 2013

Voli 2017-12-06T01:57:42+00:00

Alright, I discussed with multiple BN/QAT and we mutually agreed the difficulty names are fine to keep.

Krfawy

1,374 posts

Joined March 2012

Krfawy 2017-12-06T16:21:22+00:00

Voli plizu I can't make them clickable if I want to keep the difficulty normalish, the difficulty is already quite hardcore and I don't want to make it more of an advanced diff than it already is. XD The placement of the notes surely is not the most active from the clicking point but please keep in mind that we are talking about the noobs that are going to click and hold their mouse or keyboard buttons interchangeably which is a difficult thing for noobs if you ask me. If you ask me the 00:24:309 - reversing arrow here works fine from the rhythmical pov and the slidertick 00:24:531 - here fulfills its job too as it makes a coherent pattern that is not too hard but not too easy so I am sure it works just fine. Sure, there is not much clicking left but the kiai is denser and now I want to make it easier so there is a relative comparison between the moments in the music and not to mention that these patterns work nicely with the music (in my opinion ;3;). So I reaaaaaaally want to leave it as it is as it works fine. =3=

Buuuut your point on the sliders' direction 00:51:198 (4) - and 01:05:420 (4) - is way too real so I've changed that. Tanksu! o/

Also Bathwory Bitch let me to do anything I want with his stuff so I changed the inconvenient hidden reverses from Bakari's mod and also I simplified the rhythms in his diffu, tanksu no pantsu again Voli aka Mariah! o/

KRFAWY

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pishifat 2017-12-23T10:19:40+00:00

mapping is fine, but you're missing video on refaller's diff

call me/voli back!!

XVoIR

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XVoIR 2017-12-23T10:48:45+00:00

uhhhhhhhh fixed

ReFaller

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ReFaller 2017-12-23T21:18:19+00:00

lmao

pishifat

osu! Paragon

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pishifat 2017-12-23T22:16:12+00:00

rebub

XVoIR

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XVoIR 2017-12-23T22:27:27+00:00

owo

deadpon3

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deadpon3 2017-12-24T08:45:20+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDwjJFxPsUw

cofnijmy się wstecz aby przypomnieć sobie jak to się wszystko zaczęło

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2017-12-25T16:34:45+00:00

NIE BEDZIE!!

Rechecked all diffs, the map seemed fine as is.

XVoIR

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XVoIR 2017-12-25T16:58:59+00:00

i hope it will stay this way

if it sounded offensive then i didnt mean to omg

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Nevo

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Nevo 2017-12-25T19:28:28+00:00

XVoIR wrote:
i hope it will stay this way

deadpon3

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deadpon3 2017-12-25T19:30:02+00:00

Nevo wrote:
XVoIR wrote:
i hope it will stay this way

Chalwa

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Chalwa 2017-12-25T21:39:09+00:00

Zgodnie z tradycją:

1. Nie rzucim ziemi skąd nasz ród,
nie damy pogrześć mowy.
Polski my naród, polski ród,
królewski szczep piastowy.
Nie damy by nas zgnębił wróg.
Tak nam dopomóż Bóg !
Tak nam dopomóż Bóg !

2. Do krwi ostatniej kropli z żył,
bronić będziemy ducha,
aż się rozpadnie w proch i w pył
krzyżacka zawierucha.
Twierdzą nam będzie każdy próg.
Tak nam dopomóż Bóg !
Tak nam dopomóż Bóg !

3. Nie będzie Niemiec pluł nam w twarz,
ni dzieci nam germanił.
Orężem stanie hufiec nasz,
duch będzie nam hetmanił.
Pójdziem, gdy zabrzmi złoty róg.
Tak nam dopomóż Bóg !
Tak nam dopomóż Bóg !

4.Nie damy miana Polski zgnieść,
nie pudziem żywo w trumne
Ojczyzny honor i jej cześć,
podniesiem czoło dumne
Ziemie odzyska ojców wnuk
Tak nam dopomóż Bóg!
Tak nam dopomóż Bóg!

Wesołych Świąt i gratulacje! <3

ReFaller

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ReFaller 2017-12-26T10:12:02+00:00

No i wygrana po raz kolejny

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