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ReFaller

Joined August 2014

ReFaller 2016-11-06T14:18:49+00:00

Zapomniałem o pewnej rzeczy, nie dawaj już KD.
Tak se słucham podgląd i w takim dziwnym miejscu umieszczony, ja bym polecił ustawić w tym samym miejscu gdzie masz czerwony timing.
Dla mnie po prostu BEST OF podgląd dla utworu.

Venix

Global Moderator

1,927 posts

Joined February 2015

Venix 2016-11-07T22:56:14+00:00

elo elo

2 irc jednego dnia, ALEŻ KOMBO!!!!

23:33 *Venix is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1083220 Perfect & JJayJoker - Tarzan JJayJoker [Andrzej]]
23:33 Venix: XD
23:34 Venix: 00:06:309 (2,4) - wiem, że tego nie lubisz, ale tu kurwa musi być blanket
23:34 Venix: i chuj XD
23:34 XVoIR: TO NIE MIAŁ BYĆ PATTERN DO BLANKETU XD
23:34 Venix: 00:07:420 (5,1) - to daj troszke w dół
23:34 Venix: 00:06:753 (4,1) - 
23:34 Venix: bo jest tu lekkie antyflow
23:34 Venix: xd
23:35 XVoIR: dałem tylko 5,1 bo 4,1 to mi zepsuje blanket ://////////
23:36 Venix: 00:06:753 (4,1) - 
23:36 Venix: gdzie ty tu masz do chuja blanket? XDDDDD
23:36 XVoIR: 00:05:865 (1,4) -
23:36 Venix: ty chyba mnie nie zrozumiałeś
23:36 Venix: XD
23:36 XVoIR: no nie
23:37 Venix: 00:07:420 (5,1) - to daj niżej, bo jest antyflow z 00:06:753 (4) - 
23:37 Venix: 4 nie dawaj na dół xD
23:37 XVoIR: no to dałem
23:37 XVoIR: TO CZEGO ZAZNACZYŁEŚ 4 XD
23:37 Venix: bo kurwa z 4 jest antyflow XD
23:38 XVoIR: no to trzeba było tak odrazu!!
23:38 Venix: 00:13:642 (3,4) - tutaj można dać tripla
23:38 Venix: 00:13:753 - bo tu jest taki bardzo cichutki 1/4
23:38 XVoIR: nie ma żadnego dźwięku
23:38 XVoIR: lol
23:39 Venix: słuchawki studyjne polecam XDDDDD
23:40 XVoIR: ja tu mam audio technica m30x i nic nie słysze
23:40 XVoIR: XD
23:40 Venix: pasmo przenoszenia? XD
23:41 Venix: 00:13:753 - ale zobacz jakby brzmiało, gdybyś dał tu kółko i walnął do tego hitsounda tam w lewym górnym rogu samplest drum xd
23:42 XVoIR: według irreversible potrzebuję easy diffa XD
23:43 Venix: wiesz kto ci go zrobi?
23:43 Venix: ODPOWIEDŹ JEST PROSTA XD
23:43 XVoIR: adam małysz?
23:43 Venix: DOKŁADNIE
23:43 XVoIR: wiem!!
23:43 Venix: XD
23:43 XVoIR: możesz zrobić
23:43 Venix: 00:17:864 (4,1) - tutaj sie zrobiło ostro chujowe flow XD
23:44 XVoIR: sam jesteś ostro chujowe flow :/
23:44 Venix: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6517356
23:44 Venix: daj coś takiego XD
23:45 XVoIR: czej
23:45 XVoIR: bo to trudno wykombinować będzie
23:45 XVoIR: XD
23:46 Venix: 00:30:309 (6) - tu obróć ten slider horyzontalnie
23:46 Venix: i umieść z dsem 1/2 xd
23:46 XVoIR: kur
23:46 XVoIR: które to jest horyzontalnie
23:46 XVoIR: XDD
23:47 XVoIR: https://vorithesecond.s-ul.eu/Eox8vTIm.png
23:47 Venix: 00:31:642 (3) - tu masz hitsound faila
23:47 Venix: ctrl+h lol xD
23:47 XVoIR: ?
23:48 Venix: dwa whistle
23:48 Venix: powinien być jeden XD
23:48 XVoIR: już wiem czemu sie tak zrobiło
23:49 Venix: 00:39:642 - no no, byłeś XD
23:49 XVoIR: bo myślałem że to się zmienia xD
23:49 XVoIR: ??
23:49 Venix: odpałzuj nute lo
23:49 Venix: l
23:49 XVoIR: zrób easy collab z deadpon3 Kapa
23:49 XVoIR: wiem
23:49 XVoIR: XD
23:49 Venix: poradze sb sam xD
23:50 XVoIR: ok!
23:50 Venix: 00:44:976 (1) - na tym sliderze
23:50 XVoIR: ps jakby co to możesz skopiować moje hitsoundy jak ci sie nie chce robić własnych
23:50 XVoIR: XD
23:50 Venix: nie
23:50 Venix: ty zrobisz
23:50 Venix: XDDDDD
23:50 XVoIR: wtf!!!!
23:50 XVoIR: co to za problem użyć osu!hitsoundcopier
23:50 Venix: 00:44:976 (1) - wracając, tu możesz walnąć większe sv
23:51 XVoIR: btw co na tym sliderze
23:51 Venix: będzie ładniej wyglądało
23:51 Venix: xd
23:51 XVoIR: e tam teraz jest gites XD
23:51 XVoIR: nie lubie za bardzo SV zmieniać tak często
23:51 XVoIR: nie jestem kurde raikozen!!
23:51 Venix: 00:47:198 (2,4) - może to zestackować? xd
23:52 XVoIR: a to nie jest/
23:52 XVoIR: a
23:52 XVoIR: 2 i 4
23:52 XVoIR: trochę duży DS mi się zdaje
23:52 Venix: 00:45:420 (2,3) - 
23:52 Venix: tu jest taki sam
23:52 Venix: XD
23:52 XVoIR: CHICHO
23:52 XVoIR: XD
23:54 Venix: no to tyle w temacie

ReFaller

1,233 posts

Joined August 2014

ReFaller 2016-11-08T02:29:35+00:00

Nadchodzi Trudny od ReFallerka

Moja specjalna technika - 2011 slidery XD

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Dla niewiedzących - widać w HitObjects literkę B zamiast P
Nie dotyczy to sliderów które mają czerwony punkt.

ReFaller

1,233 posts

Joined August 2014

ReFaller 2016-11-29T23:27:27+00:00

30 listopada - dzień Św. Andrzeja, dobry moment aby ruszyć ten mapsecik.

*ups dołble posta walnąłem :3 *

XVoIR

851 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

XVoIR 2016-11-30T14:48:39+00:00

chyba ruszyć do grobu :/

ReFaller

1,233 posts

Joined August 2014

ReFaller 2016-12-18T14:17:56+00:00

no nareszcie kurwa sie dzieje

XVoIR

851 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

XVoIR 2016-12-18T14:58:40+00:00

no tak średnio jak tak patrzę

ReFaller

1,233 posts

Joined August 2014

ReFaller 2016-12-20T01:53:43+00:00

Jakie to szczęście że zagrałem tego Easy bo jest PRZYPAŁ
[Batorego Prosty]
Pominę kilka brzydkich blanketów bo nie to jest moim celem XD
00:50:309 (1) - Slider jest unrankable, jego reverse jest załonięty poprzednim sliderem. Zmień pattern 00:48:531 (3,1) - tej dwójki
01:02:753 (3,1) - No i że zwolennicy Andrei (Ja, Krfawy i ty XD) lubią copy/paste, to tu też zrób copy/paste poprawionego wyżej.

OK diff uratowany przed DQ.

Krfawy

1,374 posts

Joined March 2012

Krfawy 2016-12-22T17:54:41+00:00

Strzałki można zasłaniać tylko i wyłącznie innymi strzałkami. Tak, oznacza to że jest teraz okej tak jak jest. W izi jakoś nie widziałem żeby ludzie to stosowali, ale sama technika jest zdatna do użycia, że to tak określę.

Ej, w ogóle dopiero zauważyłem że w twoim diffie są takie wyciszenia Faller, dałoby się je usunąć? Ledwo słychać dźwięki. X'D 00:38:309 (2) - I weźże zrób tego slajdera porządnie, bo wygląda jak *KAKTUS* i jest płaski i no sam rozumiesz no, nieładny jest. Weź go zrób takiego bardziej krągłego, dobrze? ;_;

XWoreK, dasz może OD7.5 w swoim poziomie? Przecież i tak z haerką to będzie dawało dziesiątkę, ale bez użycia mutatorów będzie troszkę lżej a nadal tyle samo punktów, hehehe. 01:03:531 - Poza tym tutaj mógłbyś walnąć kółko żeby były trojaczki fajne (no i może nawet więcej pączków będzie dzięki większej ilości kółek, a tak zawsze dajesz do tego "za-ro-słem" więc jest wytłumaczenie). XD

Kudosu dla mnie i ReFallera, pażałsta.
Trzeba wspierać modderów, a ostatnio kudosu dostałem trzy miesiące temu na tej mapie, a ReFaller zmodował nowy poziom! \:v /

EDIT: Po rozmowie z BNG i QATem okazało się że jednak wszelkie mapy które mają taki patterning to pomyłki i niedopatrzenia i to nie jest rankable i kazali to zmienić ja waleu... Batory powiedział żebym zajął się zmianami w jego poziomie, więc daję kod z poprawionym diffem:

IZI

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TitleUnicode:Tarzan JJayJoker
Artist:Perfect & JJayJoker
ArtistUnicode:Perfect & JJayJoker
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Source:
Tags:disco polo youtube boy polish poland polska Krfawy ReFaller
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Last edited by Krfawy 2017-01-06T13:03:19+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

ReFaller

1,233 posts

Joined August 2014

ReFaller 2016-12-23T01:12:00+00:00

@Krfawy, shape jest w stu procentach zamieżony. A co do kudosu to nie należy mi sie jak Betory tego nie zmieni, a jak nie zmieni to ide requestować jego usunięcie.

[Nemesis]

[Nemesis] 2017-01-15T12:10:08+00:00

muj mod bo tak

Andrzej
00:12:087 (3,4,5,6,7) - wyprostuj to, imo wyglada nieestetycznie
Hard
00:22:753 (3) - brakuje Finish'a
00:33:198 (2,3,4,1) - nie stackuj, lepiej podloz to jakby bylo czescia triple'a
01:00:975 (1) - popraw blanket
Normal
bez zastrzerzen.
Easy
00:28:087 (2,3) - niech na siebie nie nachodzi w ten sposob, to zle wyglada

tyle.

ReFaller

1,233 posts

Joined August 2014

ReFaller 2017-01-15T21:26:31+00:00

Nemesis wrote:
[muj mod bo tak]
Hard
00:22:753 (3) - brakuje Finish'a nie da rady wstawić bo stawiam na pierwszy moment soft whistle, a nie da sie uzywać soft whistle z drum finishem jednocześnie
00:33:198 (2,3,4,1) - nie stackuj, lepiej podloz to jakby bylo czescia triple'a nie wiem o co chodzi
01:00:975 (1) - popraw blanket to nie jest blanket

muj reply bo tak

riffy

osu! Alumni

8,060 posts

Joined December 2010

riffy 2017-03-17T18:01:22+00:00

Someone requested a mod for you, so yeah, hi

[General]

Pretty sure Bathory Witch is missing from the tags. Also, the word Joker in the tags could help, I guess.

[Batorego Prosty]

The circle size does not quite match the feel of the difficulty and feels a bit over the top. Why not try something like Circle Size 3 as to make this more appropriate for the easiest difficulty.
00:18:309 (3,4) - I don't think this kind of sliders is appropriate for the easiest difficulty as they are quite hard to read and create a glitched feeling to the pattern. Consider replacing them with plain straight sliders?
00:39:642 (1,2,3) - the pointing arrows are nearly invisible and beginners might mistakenly hit (2) and (3)'s tail. On top of that, the flow is very uncommon and confusingfor this difficulty level. Perhaps, you could space them in a more intuitivelyt readable way?
Note: 00:53:864 (1,2,3) - same

I am very uncertain about this one. While it does quite a good job as a Normal it definitely feels as something ovre the top for the easiest difficulty. Consider simplifying listed above elements as to make it appropriate for the spread.

[Krfawego Normalny]

I would disagree with the densitry of the 1/2 beats during the kiai. It feels more like a very solid Advanced, rather than a Normal. try lowering that density during kiais as well as simplifying patterns like 01:05:198 (3,4) - to prevent possible misreadings. Keep in mind that this is a gimmicky pattern and it would be very difficult to read in the middle of a 1/2 chain.
00:34:309 (1,2) - minor - the transition here does't feel very smooth. How about something more circluar? example

I can't agree with the rhythm choice as it does not seem to work well within the spread.

[ReFaller's trudny]

00:19:642 (4) - (4)'s approach rate helps players read the number of reverses on the previous slider. For that reason I would insist on making (4) very readable. Try placing it lower, so it doesn't overlap with anything. a picture

I am not sure I can agree with your decision to ignore the synth beats like 00:29:420 - but since you've been very consistent with this, I guess it could work. Apart from that it is okay.

[Andrzej]

I don't think I can agree with the jump placement you use. For instance, let's assume that 00:06:531 (3,4) - is based on vocals, than 00:08:087 (2,3) - there should be a jump as well, yet, theere is no jump. Why? It happens more often, let's take 00:12:531 (7,1) - 00:14:309 (5,1) - 00:23:420 (8,1) - as examples. Each of those is a downbeat, yet out of all three of them the strongest one 00:23:420 (8,1) - has the lowest spacing values. Why?

I believe that it is either I fail to understand the logic or the jumps are misused. Assuming that this is the latter, I would recommend to re-structure the jumps as to make them consistent and based on the structture of the song, rather than on the patterning as this is the issue that continues through the whole difficulty.
00:19:198 (3,4,5,6,7) - repeating the same loud hitsounds during the stream feels spamme and too loud for the song. Try avoiding using the same hittsound this freqently or lower the volume of it.
Note: 00:19:864 (8,9) - same.

The E/N/H difficulties have half of the kiai copypasted, which really does feel lazy mapped considering that the song is just a minute long. Giving it more variety would've added it some entertaining value, as repeating the same patterns feels boring. Apart from that I disagree with certain decisions/ideas used in the set and believe that there is a lot of space for improvement.

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Best of luck!

ReFaller

1,233 posts

Joined August 2014

ReFaller 2017-03-18T02:35:49+00:00

Okay with fixing overlap...for me it is more stack than overlap, but nvm.

My diffname is Refallera Trudny alt+s

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XVoIR

851 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

XVoIR 2017-07-04T22:22:31+00:00

Bakari wrote:
Someone requested a mod for you, so yeah, hi

[General]
Pretty sure Bathory Witch is missing from the tags. Also, the word Joker in the tags could help, I guess. fixed
[Andrzej]
I don't think I can agree with the jump placement you use. For instance, let's assume that 00:06:531 (3,4) - is based on vocals, than 00:08:087 (2,3) - there should be a jump as well, yet, theere is no jump. Why? It happens more often, let's take 00:12:531 (7,1) - 00:14:309 (5,1) - 00:23:420 (8,1) - as examples. Each of those is a downbeat, yet out of all three of them the strongest one 00:23:420 (8,1) - has the lowest spacing values. Why?

I believe that it is either I fail to understand the logic or the jumps are misused. Assuming that this is the latter, I would recommend to re-structure the jumps as to make them consistent and based on the structture of the song, rather than on the patterning as this is the issue that continues through the whole difficulty. Changed jumps placement where I decided it's wrongly placed, not much changes tho.
00:19:198 (3,4,5,6,7) - repeating the same loud hitsounds during the stream feels spamme and too loud for the song. Try avoiding using the same hittsound this freqently or lower the volume of it. I played it with various skins and it seemed fine, but reduced volume of everything to 55%.
Note: 00:19:864 (8,9) - same.
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Best of luck! better late than never i guess heh

ShinodaYuu

631 posts

Joined May 2016

ShinodaYuu 2017-08-01T16:23:28+00:00

Siemka wjeżdża modzik

[Krfawego Normalny]

00:15:642 (5) - Obróć trochę w lewo (anticlockwise), jako równoległe to nie wygląda dobrze
00:23:642 (1) - W ten sposób omijasz 00:24:531 , reszty sylab nie opuszczasz więc tu też coś daj
00:28:087 (2) - ^
00:30:753 (1) - ^
00:32:531 (2) - Nie mam pojęcie do czego nawiązuje 00:33:198
00:36:087 (4) - No nakręciłeś się na te półtorabeatowe slidery a na red tickach tam nic nie ma
00:41:864 (5) - Od tego momentu do 00:44:531 (4) pakujesz za dużo w jedno miejsce
00:50:976 (3) - Nieczytelne
00:52:087 - Kolejny silny dźwięk ominięty
00:53:642 - Tu też mógłbyś coś dać
00:55:643 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - Proste kopiuj wklej? Można to zrobić ciekawiej

01:06:309 - Daj tu coś

[Krwafy]

[Andrzej]

00:15:642 (4) -https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8736911 Może taki mniej zaokrąglony
00:16:531 (1) - Robienie identycznego slidera kiepsko wygląda, obróć go trochę
00:18:309 (1) - Zmień ten white tick na red
00:19:864 (8) - Przy AR 8 jest to trochę mało widoczne
00:20:976 (3) - Łamie flow
00:23:531 - Daj tu kółko żeby pasowało do 00:19:864 (8,9,1)
00:30:087 (5,6) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8736948 Może tak? Flow będzie lepsze
00:48:531 (1) - Trochę to kiepsko wygląda imo, przesuń w prawo
00:54:753 (4,5,1,2) - Fajny pattern

Tak ogólnie popracuj nad estetyką diffa

[Ikswuar]

Mam nadzieję że pomogłem

Powodzenia

Krfawy

1,374 posts

Joined March 2012

Krfawy 2017-08-03T19:02:49+00:00

Milar001 wrote:
Siemka wjeżdża modzik Dzieeeeń dooooobryyyyyy

[Krfawego Normalny]

00:15:642 (5) - Obróć trochę w lewo (anticlockwise), jako równoległe to nie wygląda dobrze Moim zdaniem mój pattern dobrze się i gra i dobrze też wygląda, zachowuję tak jak jest.
00:23:642 (1) - W ten sposób omijasz 00:24:531 , reszty sylab nie opuszczasz więc tu też coś daj Omijam część dźwięków tak aby było rytmicznie i nie za ciężko. To jest normal, nie mogę mapować każdego możliwego dźwięku i jakichś ofiar takie mapowanie wymaga. D:
00:28:087 (2) - ^ ^
00:30:753 (1) - ^ ^
00:32:531 (2) - Nie mam pojęcie do czego nawiązuje 00:33:198 Czuję o co chodzi ale na razie chcę zostawić to tak jak jest bo wzorek wygląda bardzo ładnie jak jest taka symetria a brzmi nie najgorzej. ;_; Ale jak faktycznie kolejna osoba to zgłosi to zmienię.
00:36:087 (4) - No nakręciłeś się na te półtorabeatowe slidery a na red tickach tam nic nie ma Tutaj trzymam rytmikę która brzmi dobrze ale również podkreśla zmianę na bardziej "dramatyczną" między innymi hitsoundami. No i mimo wszystko akurat ten rewers bardzo dobrze podkreśla dźwięki perkusji (kicki) które zaczynają się od tego momentu.
00:41:864 (5) - Od tego momentu do 00:44:531 (4) pakujesz za dużo w jedno miejsce Ym, a czy można to jakoś jaśniej określić, bo nie rozumiem co dokładnie masz na myśli. Jeżeli chodzi o to że kółka/slajdery są na tych samych wartościach na siatce to to akurat problem nie jest, gęstość obiektów też jest większa niż poprzednio ale moim zdaniem jeszcze da się znieść.
00:50:976 (3) - Nieczytelne Naprawione!
00:52:087 - Kolejny silny dźwięk ominięty No tutaj to też byłoby chamskie jakbym spamował ciągle obiektami no i do tego tutaj podkreślam wokal który jest narzędziem głównym.
00:53:642 - Tu też mógłbyś coś dać ^
00:55:643 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - Proste kopiuj wklej? Można to zrobić ciekawiej .3.
01:06:309 - Daj tu coś ^

Mam nadzieję że pomogłem Powodzenia Dziękuję za moda! :3

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XVoIR

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XVoIR 2017-08-03T19:41:41+00:00

Milar001 wrote:
[Andrzej]

00:15:642 (4) -https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8736911 Może taki mniej zaokrąglony Tutaj to akurat bardzo ładny blankecik jest to no change
00:16:531 (1) - Robienie identycznego slidera kiepsko wygląda, obróć go trochę To nie jest identyczne, by było ale nie chciałem nagle wrzucać 2.0 SV
00:18:309 (1) - Zmień ten white tick na red Nie widzę powodu by to zmienić
00:19:864 (8) - Przy AR 8 jest to trochę mało widoczne Zmieniłem spacing
00:20:976 (3) - Łamie flow Not sure czy spacing teraz nie jest nieco błędny, ale zmieniłem lekko
00:23:531 - Daj tu kółko żeby pasowało do 00:19:864 (8,9,1) Teraz jest dobrze, odpowiednie wybicie słowa PRZEPRASZAM
00:30:087 (5,6) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8736948 Może tak? Flow będzie lepsze IMO teraz jest dobrze, grając to naturalnie wyczuwałem ten movement
00:48:531 (1) - Trochę to kiepsko wygląda imo, przesuń w prawo Jasne!
00:54:753 (4,5,1,2) - Fajny pattern No najlepszy na świecie!

Tak ogólnie popracuj nad estetyką diffa Teraz jest dobrze, nie ma żadnych overlapów które są brzydkie czy coś

[Ikswuar]

Mam nadzieję że pomogłem Powodzenia

Maxylan

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Joined May 2014

Maxylan 2017-08-05T18:35:48+00:00

I, don't really know polish... But let's hope we all know english because that's what this mod will be in!
Thanks for applying to my queue!

I'm going to mod the 3.15* difficulty here. This map is unfortunately quite bland... It's actually not a bad map for someone that's aspiring like yourself! Flow works and the sound emphasis is above average! What could use some work is the repetitive patterns, which could quite easily be solved through variation in jumps and sliders instead of having the same linear pattern.
For a start, you should introduce slider velocities into the map with green lines, you should also make sure that the sliders don't start and end on important sounds in the song, because that takes away all the power of the slider.
Here's a video of someone who can explain this 10x better than me
You should also introduce more variant in the patterns of your jumps and circles, creating more or less length in between circles/sliders depending on the intensity of the sound the circles are representing, this is also explained in the video above (I think).
00:11:864 (2,3) - This is a good example of something that breaks the common pattern you've used, but it's done in a way that breaks flow in an unnatural way.

Secondly, you should in the future not just map a song you like. But also think about how practical the song you wish to map really is!
Songs with less than 150 BPM can be really tricky for someone who's just starting out to actually map, because it's generally slower it's more difficult to introduce patterns and gameplay that doesn't turn out boring to play. Of course, this does not apply to all songs that are less than 150 BPM, but it's a good rule of thumb to avoid the maps regardless. Same goes for songs like this one where it sounds exactly the same throughout the entire song. This could've been 180BPM+ and still, it would be insanely difficult to map this song because it's so, repetitive.

This turned out more like an explanation. But since you're an aspiring mapper I think this will benefit you more rather than me highlighting every single note. Keep working hard on this map!!

ReFaller

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ReFaller 2017-09-07T11:21:25+00:00

Zupdatuj mojego diffa z reply na mod Bakarjego.

Justysuwu

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Justysuwu 2017-09-28T02:13:52+00:00

Siema

Coś na szybko

[Batorego Prosty]
00:36:087 (2) - skróć ten slider trochę i daj 3 powtórzenia

[Krfawego Normalny]
00:12:753 (5) - usuń bo to niepotrzebne
00:34:087 (3) - daj to kułko przed slider
01:07:198 (7,1) - zrób z tego jeden slider

[ReFallera Trudny]
00:55:198 (5,1) - dwa slidery po 1 beat zamiast tego slidera z kółkiem
00:40:976 (5,1) - ^

[Andrzej]
Prędkość slidera daj na 2,00 bo troche za wolne to jest
00:23:642 (1) - troszkę wyżej (około y:180)

ReFaller

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ReFaller 2017-09-28T10:42:21+00:00

MyAngelMeinter wrote:
Siema
Coś na szybko
[ReFallera Trudny]
00:55:198 (5,1) - dwa slidery po 1 beat zamiast tego slidera z kółkiem
00:40:976 (5,1) - ^

Te momenty followują za tym najbardziej słyszalnym poza wokalem synthem czy jak dokłądnie to sie zwie. Nie napisałeś mi również jakiej długości miałyby być te slidery.

Justysuwu

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Justysuwu 2017-09-28T14:00:22+00:00

ReFaller wrote:
Te momenty followują za tym najbardziej słyszalnym poza wokalem synthem czy jak dokłądnie to sie zwie. Nie napisałeś mi również jakiej długości miałyby być te slidery.

Sry źle napisałem chodziło mi o pół beatu slidery (coś takiego)

coś takiego

ReFaller

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ReFaller 2017-09-28T23:32:30+00:00

akurat na tej mapie tych syntów w takich sposób nie followuje

Voli

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Voli 2017-12-04T12:33:54+00:00

Hey, you requested sometime ago! ~~(or was it krfawy)~~

General

Is there any way you could make the difficulty names understandable for everyone?
I understand that they're themed and all, but I simply have to follow the rc: these difficulty names don't really indicate progression for anyone other than Polish speakers, sadly
Tags are inconsistent, please check that! (aimod)

Batorego Prosty

00:46:309 (4,5) - Triples like that have too complex rhythms for the lowest diff, I recommend leaving 00:46:531 (5) - out. Same for 01:00:753 (5) -

Krfawego Normalny

00:23:642 (1) - Cool symmetry but i really don't like how the reverse lands on such a passive vocal and then completely misses 00:24:531 - . Is there a way you could make the rhythm more truthful to the song here? Same goes for 00:30:753 (1) -, 00:32:531 (2) - , 00:36:087 (4) -, 01:03:198 (5) -
00:51:198 (4) - How about ctrl+j on this slider so the movement is more natural from 00:50:976 (3) - ? example: https://voli.s-ul.eu/qi3G8H7d.png

Refallera Trudny

00:13:642 (2,3) - Consider removing the stack? You rarely use them in this part, so you might as well stack the note with 00:12:753 (4) - so it has similar movement to 00:15:642 (3) -
00:17:420 - Wouldn't you want to make the first vocal here clickable too, just as 00:20:976 (2) - ?
00:38:309 (2) - Personal point, but imo it would be cool if you could make the wave a little more evident like this: https://voli.s-ul.eu/5vfdDoQq.png
00:50:309 (1) - 2 sliders would fit better with both the vocals and the underlying melody, imo

Andrzej

00:48:309 (4) - I understand you want to stack this for visual purposes, but imo the movement is rather unnatural. Consider blanket with 00:47:642 (3) - instead?
00:54:531 (3,4) - I don't think this stack follows the correct logic, holding momentum is rather strange when 00:54:753 (4) - is stronger/new vocal

Call me back!

deadpon3

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deadpon3 2017-12-04T13:48:18+00:00

Hype w chuj

XVoIR

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Topic Starter

XVoIR 2017-12-04T15:21:56+00:00

Voli wrote:
Hey, you requested sometime ago! ~~(or was it krfawy)~~ it was krfawy

General
Is there any way you could make the difficulty names understandable for everyone?
I understand that they're themed and all, but I simply have to follow the rc: these difficulty names don't really indicate progression for anyone other than Polish speakers, sadly Krfawy did the same thing in this mapset, so I think i'll put translations in the description
Tags are inconsistent, please check that! (aimod) Fixed!
Andrzej
00:48:309 (4) - I understand you want to stack this for visual purposes, but imo the movement is rather unnatural. Consider blanket with 00:47:642 (3) - instead? I guess it's blanketed (?) fine, not sure about DS but seems good.
00:54:531 (3,4) - I don't think this stack follows the correct logic, holding momentum is rather strange when 00:54:753 (4) - is stronger/new vocal Also fixed, but might change the pattern if needed
Call me back!

now i'm waiting for other responses

_handholding

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_handholding 2017-12-04T16:49:32+00:00

I love these Japanese diff names \ ( >w<)/

XVoIR

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XVoIR 2017-12-04T17:18:02+00:00

ore wa ochinchin desu

ReFaller

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ReFaller 2017-12-04T21:05:36+00:00

Voli wrote:
ReFallera Trudny
00:13:642 (2,3) - Consider removing the stack? You rarely use them in this part, so you might as well stack the note with 00:12:753 (4) - so it has similar movement to 00:15:642 (3) - even if they are rare, i'm still open for using them
00:17:420 - Wouldn't you want to make the first vocal here clickable too, just as 00:20:976 (2) - ? in hards i don't make every vocal note as clickable and usually i'm not consistent with that
00:38:309 (2) - Personal point, but imo it would be cool if you could make the wave a little more evident like this: https://voli.s-ul.eu/5vfdDoQq.png i kept it as flat as it is, but i reshaped into standard wave
00:50:309 (1) - 2 sliders would fit better with both the vocals and the underlying melody, imo it could break my every sense of mapping that "secondary" sounds

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deadpon3

531 posts

Joined April 2013

deadpon3 2017-12-05T16:46:05+00:00

XVoIR wrote:
ore wa ochinchin desu

omae wa mou shindeiru

Voli

811 posts

Joined April 2013

Voli 2017-12-06T01:57:42+00:00

Alright, I discussed with multiple BN/QAT and we mutually agreed the difficulty names are fine to keep.

Krfawy

1,374 posts

Joined March 2012

Krfawy 2017-12-06T16:21:22+00:00

Voli plizu I can't make them clickable if I want to keep the difficulty normalish, the difficulty is already quite hardcore and I don't want to make it more of an advanced diff than it already is. XD The placement of the notes surely is not the most active from the clicking point but please keep in mind that we are talking about the noobs that are going to click and hold their mouse or keyboard buttons interchangeably which is a difficult thing for noobs if you ask me. If you ask me the 00:24:309 - reversing arrow here works fine from the rhythmical pov and the slidertick 00:24:531 - here fulfills its job too as it makes a coherent pattern that is not too hard but not too easy so I am sure it works just fine. Sure, there is not much clicking left but the kiai is denser and now I want to make it easier so there is a relative comparison between the moments in the music and not to mention that these patterns work nicely with the music (in my opinion ;3;). So I reaaaaaaally want to leave it as it is as it works fine. =3=

Buuuut your point on the sliders' direction 00:51:198 (4) - and 01:05:420 (4) - is way too real so I've changed that. Tanksu! o/

Also Bathwory Bitch let me to do anything I want with his stuff so I changed the inconvenient hidden reverses from Bakari's mod and also I simplified the rhythms in his diffu, tanksu no pantsu again Voli aka Mariah! o/

KRFAWY

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