Akiyama Uni - Kaoru Juyouka [CatchTheBeat] · forum

YukaRei

Joined May 2014

YukaRei 2018-01-31T17:29:10+00:00

murutattack wrote:
Some self-modding due to some ZiRoX modding mentioning that I could changed it before its too late

Blooming Flowerss Diff changes:
00:36:006 (2) till 00:49:485 (2) - Maybe cause its too sudden movements, so I turn into something that is not sudden but more like gameplay-wise but more of the "dancing" feeling (idk what im talking about :3)

Some hitsounding fix on beginning song, following how Breathless HS was.

01:02:528 (6) - I buffed a bit to make like Rhythm/beat wise. Now seems way better. Similar pattern after that changed too.
Rain
00:28:833 (1,2) - Lol I forgot to change this back then, fixed.
And tags +YukaRei added just in case I was going to ask you for that XD
and... moved to Pending.

Let's do it!!!

Summerleopard

196 posts

Joined May 2016

Summerleopard 2018-02-09T03:50:43+00:00

What a nice progress Murut-san,good luck for rank.
No kudosu since I not modding anymore but consider to ask me on HS. If you want,pm me in-game likely.

Absolute Zero

595 posts

Joined August 2014

Absolute Zero 2018-02-13T00:00:55+00:00

Unused hitsounds in folder:
normal-hitnormal.wav , normal-hitwhistle.wav

[Cup]
Lookin' sharp my dude.

[Salad]
HP 4 cuz decimal HP makes me sad.
00:33:616 (3,1,2) - Small thing--not sure if these hitsounds are consistent with 00:27:094 (1,2,3,4).
01:23:615 (4,5) - Could use some antiflow here just to make things a little more interesting at the end--consider flipping (5) around its head and placing (1) to the RIGHT of (5).

[Platter]
00:54:920 (1,2,3,4) - (3,4) followed by the hyper seems kind of difficult for a platter to me. Consider making (1,2,3,4) all equal distances.

[Rain]
00:13:470 and 00:13:543 - I think there's a sound here--you hit it at 00:20:354 (2), but ignore it here. Consider hitting these two sounds.
00:37:818 and 00:37:891 - Same as before--you hit 00:44:702 (7).
00:44:702 (7) - Speaking of such--make this a repeat 1/6 slider twice because this is snapped incorrectly.
00:51:767 (4,5) - I don't see a justification for this hyper. Lower distancing. Sorry if I suggested the opposite earlier.
01:22:528 (4,1) - This distance feels a little low for the highest trumpet note. Increase spacing slightly.

[Evanent's Rain]
01:07:093 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Feels kinda weird that you treat these two differently in patterning. I would do the first combo like the second one, but facing the opposite way (I agree with ZiRoX's suggestion).
01:12:093 (4,1) - This is larger than 01:15:572 (6,1) in terms of spacing, even though it's not emphasized in the music as much! Consider respacing both of them in context.

[Blooming Flowers]
01:09:702 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Repattern this so that (5,6) is grouped with (7,8) because the trumpet starts at (5).

YukaRei

201 posts

Joined May 2014

YukaRei 2018-02-13T05:06:53+00:00

Halfsmashed wrote:
[Evanent's Rain]
01:07:093 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Feels kinda weird that you treat these two differently in patterning. I would do the first combo like the second one, but facing the opposite way (I agree with ZiRoX's suggestion). - Well, I think they need to be different because of the "finish sound" in 01:07:963 (3) for example, I want to keep them as they are now because it looks better in my opinion. Also I mirroed these 01:07:093 (1,2,3) -
01:12:093 (4,1) - This is larger than 01:15:572 (6,1) in terms of spacing, even though it's not emphasized in the music as much! Consider respacing both of them in context. - This was quite hard but I fixed the distances and to make them more in context I remapped some of the patterns.

Thank you very much (^ o ^)

UPDATE

SPOILER

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Moeruattack

762 posts

Joined June 2014

Topic Starter

Moeruattack 2018-02-13T10:22:51+00:00

Halfsmashed wrote:
Unused hitsounds in folder:
normal-hitnormal.wav , normal-hitwhistle.wav deleted lol

[Cup]
Lookin' sharp my dude.

[Salad],
HP 4 cuz decimal HP makes me sad. sed :c But OK (3 > 4 > 5 > 6 > 6 (maybe i ask YukaRei change to 6) > 6 )
00:33:616 (3,1,2) - Small thing--not sure if these hitsounds are consistent with 00:27:094 (1,2,3,4). Fixed
01:23:615 (4,5) - Could use some antiflow here just to make things a little more interesting at the end--consider flipping (5) around its head and placing (1) to the RIGHT of (5). I hope this distance ain`t OP xp

[Platter]
00:54:920 (1,2,3,4) - (3,4) followed by the hyper seems kind of difficult for a platter to me. Consider making (1,2,3,4) all equal distances. Okay

[Rain]
00:13:470 and 00:13:543 - I think there's a sound here--you hit it at 00:20:354 (2), but ignore it here. Consider hitting these two sounds. OK fixed
00:37:818 and 00:37:891 - Same as before--you hit 00:44:702 (7). Originally it was Overdose mapset with similar beat sounding, but OK, changed
00:44:702 (7) - Speaking of such--make this a repeat 1/6 slider twice because this is snapped incorrectly. ^
00:51:767 (4,5) - I don't see a justification for this hyper. Lower distancing. Sorry if I suggested the opposite earlier. Its ok :3 Fixed, copy-pasta from 1,2,3,4 to 5,6,7,8.
01:22:528 (4,1) - This distance feels a little low for the highest trumpet note. Increase spacing slightly. Kinda added PP lol, seems better :3

[Evanent's Rain]
01:07:093 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Feels kinda weird that you treat these two differently in patterning. I would do the first combo like the second one, but facing the opposite way (I agree with ZiRoX's suggestion).
01:12:093 (4,1) - This is larger than 01:15:572 (6,1) in terms of spacing, even though it's not emphasized in the music as much! Consider respacing both of them in context.

[Blooming Flowers]
01:09:702 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Repattern this so that (5,6) is grouped with (7,8) because the trumpet starts at (5). Looks better now :3

Done, I already PM about HP on breathless rain btw just in case :p

Absolute Zero

595 posts

Joined August 2014

Absolute Zero 2018-02-13T21:32:33+00:00

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SYAHME

1,072 posts

Joined January 2014

SYAHME 2018-02-14T12:34:06+00:00

Nice, murut

Moeruattack

762 posts

Joined June 2014

Topic Starter

Moeruattack 2018-02-14T13:55:38+00:00

⑨ :q

-Hex-

362 posts

Joined June 2016

-Hex- 2018-02-14T18:03:03+00:00

owo. Hype

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2018-02-14T22:44:03+00:00

rank sennen

metadata: http://www.tasofro.net/touhou105/cd.html (Original Disc track 6)

Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2018-02-15T03:01:12+00:00

I don't think this map is ready to be qualified at all. The top diff has emphasis issues that are all over the place and it feels like an eternal struggle to even play the map.

General

Difficulty settings spread issue

The current difficulty settings are very odd to me. Why are there .5s on all the lower diffs? We normally reserve stuff below or above the standard ARs (6/7/8/9) for songs with low or high BPM respectively, and this is a pretty energetic and fast paced song. A bump up on all of those to standard values is welcomed.
Why is Evanent's Rain CS3.8? It breaks spread pretty heavily here considering the top diff is CS5. Moving this to CS4.5 would fit the gap so much more nicely and create a much better spread. (I don't really agree that the top diff should even be CS5, it doesn't play very well with it.)

Blooming Flowers

Emphasis and structure

The beginning of this map is really really bad. You start HDashing to what everyone expects between 00:01:333 (4,5) - . Suddenly, there's no HDash between the next instance of this, at 00:02:202 (4,5) - , but what's even worse is that there's an HDash between 00:02:419 (6,7) - . Why? There's nothing there that's more powerful than what is already established to the player on the first HDash.
00:03:615 (1,2,3,4,5) - These HDashes are just random really. At first, I was like "oh, these are mapped to the drums, it's fine I guess". Then I realized that the drums are just hitsounds. There's literally nothing there to HDash to. This artificial emphasis is very hard on a player who doesn't play with these hitsounds. This also breaks the standard structure you've been using.
Even if there were sounds there, in the VERY NEXT SEGMENT, you break consistency again and there's no HDashes on any of the previous sounds you were HDashing to 00:05:354 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - .
00:35:789 - This section here follows a barely hearable background instead of the main melody of the map. This (in my opinion) is fundamentally flawed and should be 100% changed. I shouldn't be straining to hear a background melody to play along to the map.
The kiai is pretty nice, but it has some really huge places where jumps are REALLY overemphasized in comparison to jumps of the same sound. Distances of jumps could 100% be made to be more consistent.

Hitsounding

00:49:702 - Hitsounding in this section is BARELY hearable, a different hitsound is recommended here to be able to more clearly hear the music.

Additional Modding (bigger issues only)

00:01:441 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - The spacing in these streams is really awkward. Some places in the stream force the player to dash and that can be uncomfortable when there isn't a consistent basis for those dashes. I'd suggest making these streams more structured.
00:14:050 (1,2) - These are pretty uncomfortable to play due to the angle of 2 and the awkward shape of 00:14:485 (3) - . Curving 3 more and tilting 2 more to the left would be really nice here.
00:17:528 (9,1) - No clue why this is an HDash
00:26:224 (5,6) - Pretty dumb edge dash, try to reduce here.
00:33:072 (4,5) - No HDash here breaks consistency

I'm willing to provide additional modding on all difficulties should this be DQ'd. I think the issues are quite major and are detrimental to the map's quality.

Xinnoh

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Xinnoh 2018-02-15T03:10:14+00:00

00:16:659 (7) - this combo is 20 objects long on the top diff

Sanyi

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Sanyi 2018-02-15T11:08:58+00:00

In the description it still says "breathless", maybe it is better to update it to "YukaRei" since that is his current name?

Moeruattack

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Moeruattack 2018-02-15T12:05:20+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
I don't think this map is ready to be qualified at all. The top diff has emphasis issues that are all over the place and it feels like an eternal struggle to even play the map.

General

Difficulty settings spread issue
The current difficulty settings are very odd to me. Why are there .5s on all the lower diffs? We normally reserve stuff below or above the standard ARs (6/7/8/9) for songs with low or high BPM respectively, and this is a pretty energetic and fast paced song. A bump up on all of those to standard values is welcomed. (I might stick with current AR since BPM is kinda low, but If it gets DQ'ed 6 > 9.4 seems fine)
Why is Evanent's Rain CS3.8? It breaks spread pretty heavily here considering the top diff is CS5. Moving this to CS4.5 would fit the gap so much more nicely and create a much better spread. (I don't really agree that the top diff should even be CS5, it doesn't play very well with it.) (Originally planned for CS5, since CS 4 or 4.5 is too common. 4.5 will do, but still need major remake with H-Dash issues. But still... I stay with CS5 as it was Original Idea since beginning.)

Blooming Flowers

Emphasis and structure
The beginning of this map is really really bad. You start HDashing to what everyone expects between 00:01:333 (4,5) - . Suddenly, there's no HDash between the next instance of this, at 00:02:202 (4,5) - , but what's even worse is that there's an HDash between 00:02:419 (6,7) - . Why? There's nothing there that's more powerful than what is already established to the player on the first HDash. Maybe because back then I never did H-Dash on Stream, so Dashing instead, fixed later on.
00:03:615 (1,2,3,4,5) - These HDashes are just random really. At first, I was like "oh, these are mapped to the drums, it's fine I guess". Then I realized that the drums are just hitsounds. There's literally nothing there to HDash to. This artificial emphasis is very hard on a player who doesn't play with these hitsounds. This also breaks the standard structure you've been using. Hmm... Maybe I take Rain Pattern instead as referrence.
Even if there were sounds there, in the VERY NEXT SEGMENT, you break consistency again and there's no HDashes on any of the previous sounds you were HDashing to 00:05:354 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - . (Hmm, I editted this back, I still remain Stream Pattern but Consistent Version for now.)
00:35:789 - This section here follows a barely hearable background instead of the main melody of the map. This (in my opinion) is fundamentally flawed and should be 100% changed. I shouldn't be straining to hear a background melody to play along to the map. (Oh yea HS issues here, fix later)
The kiai is pretty nice, but it has some really huge places where jumps are REALLY overemphasized in comparison to jumps of the same sound. Distances of jumps could 100% be made to be more consistent. (Maybe Ctrl+C Ctrl+V later, just in-case of inconsistency but after 01:21:007 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - I added more distance as for the last climax so no change on this section. Also, nerfed a bit on 01:02:528 (6) and related..)
Hitsounding
00:49:702 - Hitsounding in this section is BARELY hearable, a different hitsound is recommended here to be able to more clearly hear the music. Lol fixed
Additional Modding (bigger issues only)
00:01:441 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - The spacing in these streams is really awkward. Some places in the stream force the player to dash and that can be uncomfortable when there isn't a consistent basis for those dashes. I'd suggest making these streams more structured. (Originally I map Stream (No H-Dash) but a little bit distance on a stronger beat while keeping distance flow, btw done remap from 00:01:007 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) and also did completely follow the sound on 00:06:767 (6) as it seems fit for this diff. .
00:14:050 (1,2) - These are pretty uncomfortable to play due to the angle of 2 and the awkward shape of 00:14:485 (3) - . Curving 3 more and tilting 2 more to the left would be really nice here. (Fixed)

Some self-mod : 00:20:354 (2,3,4,5) using stream instead.
00:17:528 (9,1) - No clue why this is an HDash ([color=#0000F F]Gameplay wise, removed H-Dash only use Dash.[/color])
00:26:224 (5,6) - Pretty dumb edge dash, try to reduce here. (Fixed alongside similar pattern)
00:33:072 (4,5) - No HDash here breaks consistency (Fixed ^)

I'm willing to provide additional modding on all difficulties should this be DQ'd. I think the issues are quite major and are detrimental to the map's quality.

Seems like I might need a lot of time (maybe 1-2 days) considering ranking this kind of Controversial Map, but back then modder kinda less,
But I took all the suggestion up here, can DQ later on :3

Sinnoh wrote:
00:16:659 (7) - this combo is 20 objects long on the top diff

eh nani!?

Sanyi wrote:
In the description it still says "breathless", maybe it is better to update it to "YukaRei" since that is his current name?

Sure

Last edited by Moeruattack 2018-02-15T20:00:37+00:00, edited 10 times in total.

SYAHME

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SYAHME 2018-02-15T13:45:09+00:00

eh nani!? haha, just want to increase my posts

Raiden

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Raiden 2018-02-15T14:33:33+00:00

it seems you wish to apply some mods, go ahead

YukaRei

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YukaRei 2018-02-15T18:55:45+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
I don't think this map is ready to be qualified at all. The top diff has emphasis issues that are all over the place and it feels like an eternal struggle to even play the map.

Why is Evanent's Rain CS3.8? It breaks spread pretty heavily here considering the top diff is CS5. Moving this to CS4.5 would fit the gap so much more nicely and create a much better spread. (I don't really agree that the top diff should even be CS5, it doesn't play very well with it.) - Well, the original idea was to have a CS2 Overdose in the set, then I made this CS3.8 Rain, I want to keep it like this because I like it.

CS5 maps are fun.

Let's go murumuru!! ♥

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2018-02-15T19:01:33+00:00

As I said @murut the map is pretty good apart from the really glaring issues in the mod. Poke me when you’ve finished fixing the notable sections and I can go through with a full mod to get this back to qualified ASAP

Moeruattack

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Moeruattack 2018-02-15T20:14:38+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
As I said @murut the map is pretty good apart from the really glaring issues in the mod. Poke me when you’ve finished fixing the notable sections and I can go through with a full mod to get this back to qualified ASAP

All done, some edits on previous mod note I left, since it seems like I wanted to stay CS5 as Intended to (idk I felt like something wrong if it was 4 and 4.5), the beginning map already remapped,
I think its done

YukaRei

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YukaRei 2018-02-15T22:44:36+00:00

I like the diff with CS5, I like all the mapset, It feels really frustrating that because someone doesn't like it makes murumuru to remap the highest diff or makes changes that could be made long time ago, the diff was modded in base of that CS, remapping now is what doesn't make any sense. Ctb mapping is really getting standardized, this is dissapointing.

It seems like someone is only coming to mapsets to get them disqualified...

S U B J E C T I V E

SYAHME

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SYAHME 2018-02-18T17:05:56+00:00

I think this maps can re-qualified

Moeruattack

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Moeruattack 2018-02-18T17:16:27+00:00

YukaRei wrote:
I like the diff with CS5, I like all the mapset, It feels really frustrating that because someone doesn't like it makes murumuru to remap the highest diff or makes changes that could be made long time ago, the diff was modded in base of that CS, remapping now is what doesn't make any sense. Ctb mapping is really getting standardized, this is dissapointing.

It seems like someone is only coming to mapsets to get them disqualified...

S U B J E C T I V E

Different mapper have different opinion I guess, but yes, remapping could be frustrating if others have no problem with it.
As if CS5 not fit to the map, but it was already in my intention to map CS5 since beginning.

Mappers strive to find new ideas so they have their own identity, but some are half-baked or might just improvise old idea and make it different or just make something copy-paste and done, which they became a barrier to old/new mapper nowdays. I did map just for fun, but I did a lot of test-play, finding ways to find appropriate pattern, and as the result, this is what it came to my mind. I know its half-baked and repetitive stuff, but thats how mod works.

I accept modders opinion and players opinion, but sometimes I tend to accept something that makes it breaks original purpose, but that also give something for future mapping I could do some...years.

For now, lets just see how it goes

SYAHME wrote:
I think this maps can re-qualified

It can already, but since I already poke Ascendance, i wait for this week :p

Ascendance

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Ascendance 2018-02-19T17:19:14+00:00

YukaRei wrote:
I like the diff with CS5, I like all the mapset, It feels really frustrating that because someone doesn't like it makes murumuru to remap the highest diff or makes changes that could be made long time ago, the diff was modded in base of that CS, remapping now is what doesn't make any sense. Ctb mapping is really getting standardized, this is dissapointing.

It seems like someone is only coming to mapsets to get them disqualified...

S U B J E C T I V E

I'd appreciate if you didn't make such accusatory statements towards me. If I wanted to only DQ this map, I wouldn't have offered to come back and help it be pushed back into qualified. Also, I definitely was not the only one who had issue with the set, in fact, someone else who had an issue with the set was the one who approached me about it. All of your points really make me upset because it makes me think you really don't understand anything about the modding or mapping process. Just relax and stop throwing out needless stuff, we're working hard to move this back to qualified.

Top diff looks nicer now, here's some distance stuff i noticed while playing:

00:18:181 (1) - Useless NC, remove it
00:17:528 (9,1) - pretty hard jump, increase it to an hdash!
00:19:267 (5,6) - this would feel much nicer with an hdash for such a strong sound.
00:20:137 (1,2) - pretty far also, reduce or make into an hdash
00:21:224 (2) - tilt more towards 3 for a more natural movement?
00:33:181 (5,6) - decrease distance or make it into an hdash
00:34:050 (1,2) - depending on what you do with the earlier mod of this pattern, change it to be consistent
00:58:833 (5) - x:199 makes the pattern a bit more smooth here
01:05:354 (1,2) - really squished pattern here, try 01:05:572 (2) - x:394!
01:10:572 - I'm pretty upset that you copypasted the previous kiai :/ it makes the map not as fun as it could be. I hate when mappers do this so I can't really help if you don't want to change this. Just try to apply suggestions from the previous kiai if you decide to keep that.

After he applies these, I'm okay with the mapset going forward again @BNs. Good luck from here on out

Moeruattack

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Moeruattack 2018-02-19T18:16:14+00:00

Ascendance wrote:
YukaRei wrote:
I like the diff with CS5, I like all the mapset, It feels really frustrating that because someone doesn't like it makes murumuru to remap the highest diff or makes changes that could be made long time ago, the diff was modded in base of that CS, remapping now is what doesn't make any sense. Ctb mapping is really getting standardized, this is dissapointing.

It seems like someone is only coming to mapsets to get them disqualified...

S U B J E C T I V E
I'd appreciate if you didn't make such accusatory statements towards me. If I wanted to only DQ this map, I wouldn't have offered to come back and help it be pushed back into qualified. Also, I definitely was not the only one who had issue with the set, in fact, someone else who had an issue with the set was the one who approached me about it. All of your points really make me upset because it makes me think you really don't understand anything about the modding or mapping process. Just relax and stop throwing out needless stuff, we're working hard to move this back to qualified.

Top diff looks nicer now, here's some distance stuff i noticed while playing:

00:18:181 (1) - Useless NC, remove it Sure
00:17:528 (9,1) - pretty hard jump, increase it to an hdash! Told ya, thats why I keep H-Dash. Revert but more easy one lol.
00:19:267 (5,6) - this would feel much nicer with an hdash for such a strong sound. Cool
00:20:137 (1,2) - pretty far also, reduce or make into an hdash H-Dash
00:21:224 (2) - tilt more towards 3 for a more natural movement? Done
00:33:181 (5,6) - decrease distance or make it into an hdash H-Dash seems ok since its on second beat.
00:34:050 (1,2) - depending on what you do with the earlier mod of this pattern, change it to be consistent Consistent... seems like it adds PP but hope it works fine, pretty nice flow though.
00:58:833 (5) - x:199 makes the pattern a bit more smooth here Sure
01:05:354 (1,2) - really squished pattern here, try 01:05:572 (2) - x:394! Sure
01:10:572 - I'm pretty upset that you copypasted the previous kiai :/ it makes the map not as fun as it could be. I hate when mappers do this so I can't really help if you don't want to change this. Just try to apply suggestions from the previous kiai if you decide to keep that. I think I keep it, maybe I already mind about making something a little bit different with different hitsoundings but that might remapping whole mapset (and *uhuk* i don`t like make bn/qat do more stuff *uhuk*), since it fits the song and pattern, so repeating pattern is fine. But next time on future will be no more lazy mapping :3
After he applies these, I'm okay with the mapset going forward again @BNs. Good luck from here on out

OK Done, now mapset ready. Now relax XD

YukaRei

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YukaRei 2018-02-23T01:49:26+00:00

Sorry for all the troubles I caused to you murumuru uwu

It seems like now is ready

JBHyperion

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JBHyperion 2018-02-25T13:59:15+00:00

Why doesn't 00:49:920 (1) - start on the downbeat at 00:49:702 - for the strong wind instrument sound like 00:53:180 (1) - does?

Otherwise fine, call me back

Moeruattack

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Moeruattack 2018-02-25T14:50:14+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Why doesn't 00:49:920 (1) - start on the downbeat at 00:49:702 - for the strong wind instrument sound like 00:53:180 (1) - does?

Otherwise fine, call me back

Hmm somewhat ok with current but seems like I done change like how 00:53:180 (1) was
Maybe i had no idea xd

*editted* Its cup diff, no wonder xd

fixed

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JBHyperion 2018-02-26T00:59:06+00:00

Whoops, I thought I wrote that it was in Cup but guess I forgot. Fixed now anyway so let's give this another go.

Rebubbled~

YukaRei

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YukaRei 2018-02-26T03:17:06+00:00

Owo

Moeruattack

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Moeruattack 2018-02-28T08:25:48+00:00

umu

celerih

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celerih 2018-02-28T23:38:56+00:00

[

Cup]

00:47:094 (2) - has higher pitch so can you make it so this one is more horizontal than 00:46:224 (1) -
00:48:833 (4,1) - and distance here is particularly small, can you increase it?

[

Salad]

00:21:007 (3,1) - dash here is way weaker than all the other ones of the start of the map see 00:14:050 (3,1) - 00:07:094 (3,1) - I'd recommend making it a dash that's close in distance to the other ones, since this is all on the same sound
00:34:920 (3) - on this drum hit sound 00:35:354 - you always had dashes, would be cool to have one here too for consistency. Would rather nicely tie up the entire start of the map imo

Other diffs look good to me, call me once you've replied to these couple of points ^^

Moeruattack

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Moeruattack 2018-03-01T14:40:53+00:00

celerih wrote:
[ Cup]

00:47:094 (2) - has higher pitch so can you make it so this one is more horizontal than 00:46:224 (1) - Look kinda fractional changes but sure
00:48:833 (4,1) - and distance here is particularly small, can you increase it? Hmm, since it changes that, I might added a bit distance on all of the 00:49:702 (1,2,3,4,1). The second (1) i turned to 2x instead since it has high pitch.

[ Salad]

00:21:007 (3,1) - dash here is way weaker than all the other ones of the start of the map see 00:14:050 (3,1) - 00:07:094 (3,1) - I'd recommend making it a dash that's close in distance to the other ones, since this is all on the same sound I think I used a bit anti-flow to make something a little different, so lesser distance on 00:21:007 seems a bit fair, 00:07:963 (1) and 00:14:050 (3,1) have different stronger distance since its not really anti-flow.
00:34:920 (3) - on this drum hit sound 00:35:354 - you always had dashes, would be cool to have one here too for consistency. Would rather nicely tie up the entire start of the map imo Ok removed repeated and making different movements

Other diffs look good to me, call me once you've replied to these couple of points ^^

Done updated :p

celerih

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celerih 2018-03-02T16:36:11+00:00

(:

Rebubbling due to change in metadata. Removed the space in the artist field and changed source to "東方緋想天　～ Scarlet Weather Rhapsody"
Before I get screamed at because of the dot, I was able to find no official sources that use the dot in the game's name, so that's what we're going with for now

Sources:
https://www.tasofro.net/touhou105/cd.html
https://kourindou.exblog.jp/5695435/

Moeruattack

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Moeruattack 2018-03-03T06:35:57+00:00

hope i dont mess up small stuff lul, 2 many bub and pop

JBHyperion

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JBHyperion 2018-03-04T01:16:16+00:00

channelling my inner cirno