ROUND TABLE featuring Nino - Puzzle [CatchTheBeat|Osu] · forum

Foxy Grandpa

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Foxy Grandpa 2016-09-26T04:08:43+00:00

depzdai wrote:
#modreqs
[Hallucinations]
- 00:15:427 (2,3,4,5) - I found that 00:15:427 (2,3) wasn't symmetric with 00:15:969 (4,5). You should fix the blanket at 00:15:427 (2,3) like this: https://puu.sh/rn6Tf/4b93aa064a.png. After that, copy 00:15:607 (3) to 00:15:969 (4), ctrl+h, ctrl+j and move it to x:346 y:78 then 00:15:969 (4,5) will appear like this: https://puu.sh/rn6TL/0e9e3b02df.png. Of course you can also 00:15:607 (3,4) symmetric through 00:15:427 (2) but I don't prefer this since it would break the blanket at 00:15:969 (4,5).
- 00:17:776 (1,2,3,4) - 00:17:776 (1,3) isn't symmetric with 00:18:138 (2,4). Move 00:18:499 (3) to x:418 y:216.
- 00:18:861 (4,1) - Though you have fixed this blanket one time before, it still has error (here's your fix: https://puu.sh/rn7bj/f504a258ea.png). Compare with my fix (https://puu.sh/rn79Z/eb22019994.png) and come to the conclusion: A perfect blanket is hard.
- 00:21:752 (4,1) - Blanket: https://puu.sh/rn7FH/bc0c0b12ef.png. You can make a (nearly) perfect blanket by only using approach circles (a modder with 72 kudosus must have known this, so this tip isn't necessary).
- 00:22:836 (2,3) - Blanket (?, I'm not sure if it's your intention to make them like this).
- 00:25:186 (1,3) - Wrong blanket.
- 00:29:342 (1,2) - Like above.
- 00:30:788 (1,2,3) - I test played it but this pattern wasn't smooth. Consider trying another pattern like this: https://puu.sh/rn85O/2fb3105114.png
- 00:34:764 (5,1) - Improve the blanket and the symmetry: https://puu.sh/rn9is/0ad9fe1226.png
- 00:42:174 (4,1) - Blanket.
- 00:45:607 (2,3,4,5,6) - The pattern here isn't aesthetic. Take advantage of ctrl+h to enhance it: https://puu.sh/rn9tc/82b122f0f1.png.
- 00:55:547 (1,2) - Blanket.
- 00:56:270 (4,5,6) - Make them more symmetric like this: https://puu.sh/rn9Dr/7ad9298cf7.png.
- 01:07:114 (1,2,3,4) - You can exploit the rhythm to make such a better blanket like this: https://puu.sh/rn9Oe/c262a6ba3a.png
- 01:08:379 (1,2,3) - Copy 01:09:101 (3) to 01:08:379 for replacing 01:08:379 (1), ctrl+g, make these sliders 01:08:379 (1,1) have their tails in the same place. It will increase the symmetry at 01:08:379 (1,3) and more suitable to the rhythm (01:08:379 (1,2) - anti-jump --> 01:08:921 (2,3) - jump when the tone goes up).
- 01:10:909 (4,2) - Make a slider bow here.
- 01:14:885 (2) - Move it to x:224 y:152 to keep the blanket and better linear flow.

Fixed all, thanks so much

Xenok

159 posts

Joined September 2013

Xenok 2016-09-26T21:38:45+00:00

Hey my FoxyGrandpa

[Hallucinations]

00:00:608 (1,2) - maybe stack them, this way, by spacing, we know that those two notes are being played faster than the jump. It's all about reading here
kiai should start at 00:01:873 - because the strong beat anouncing the kiai hit here and not after where you placed it
00:06:210 (1,2,3) - this should be more spaced, even if you follow the bells instead of drums, the music is still really intense at this part
00:10:728 (1,2,3,4) - same as ^
00:13:620 (1) - last note being not at the same spacing make it akward I missreaded it twice while testplaying
00:14:162 (3) - you can maybe stack it at 00:13:348 (4) - or 00:13:439 (5) - this way they won't overlap and it'll look more clean
00:16:873 (3,4,5) - this look very close, but if you want to space it a bit more you should change pattern because this one will totally break the flow
00:22:836 (2,3) - this blanket should be improved a bit (omg nazi mod blanket)
00:23:379 (4) - it's very close from 00:22:836 (2) - , it's even touching it, for some aestethics and spacing emphasis (since the notes almost never touch slider in your map) you should make it not touching the slider
00:27:535 (1,2,3) - shouldn't that be more spaced instead of less? the noises sound louder than softer
00:38:379 (2,3) - those elements are touching
00:39:463 (5,1) - maybe this could be improved a bit too :c
00:46:692 (8) - shouldn't it be more directed to the sliderbegin according to this one? 00:25:005 (5) -
00:54:644 (3,5) - this touch
01:05:848 (2,3) - the circles have never started that proche to the sliderEnd
01:15:810 (1) - the offset change here, so you can't put it at the end of a stream like this. Instead, you should do some kicksliders instead of stream, and then it would be more easy so focus on new offset

[KKip's Hard]

00:53:921 (1) - you could improve this blanket a bit
00:55:547 (1) - since it's a strong beat it shouldn't be stacked with the previous single
00:07:836 (1,2) - they touch strangely

[Rizen's Easy]
So well made! nothing that I could reveal has been fund :c

This map is really cool, hope you can rank it!

KKipalt

129 posts

Joined August 2015

KKipalt 2016-09-26T23:38:24+00:00

Xenok wrote:
[KKip's Hard]

00:53:921 (1) - you could improve this blanket a bit
00:55:547 (1) - since it's a strong beat it shouldn't be stacked with the previous single
00:07:836 (1,2) - they touch strangely

all changed :L

gd updejt

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Cowboy

472 posts

Joined November 2011

Cowboy 2016-09-27T00:51:24+00:00

Nobody asked for a mod, but i want to help a bit.

[General]

Turn off Widescreen Support, It does not matter much, but to avoid future problems.

[Ascendance's Rain]

00:07:836 (1) - Move it a little to the left, to avoid problems when you get to the note.
00:19:041 (4,1) - It would look better if to emphasize with an h-dash. As you did 00:20:306 (3,1) - here.
01:22:859 (1) - Switching from one sound to another so suddenly sounds bad, try to keep up, it looks good.
Well, nothing else to say, the map itself is very good luck with the ranking!

[Kkip's Hard]

Just a unsnapping timming line: 00:49:503 - .

Foxy Grandpa

709 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Foxy Grandpa 2016-09-27T05:17:33+00:00

Xenok wrote:
Hey my FoxyGrandpa

[Hallucinations]

00:00:608 (1,2) - maybe stack them, this way, by spacing, we know that those two notes are being played faster than the jump. It's all about reading here
kiai should start at 00:01:873 - because the strong beat anouncing the kiai hit here and not after where you placed it
00:06:210 (1,2,3) - this should be more spaced, even if you follow the bells instead of drums, the music is still really intense at this part
00:10:728 (1,2,3,4) - same as ^
00:13:620 (1) - last note being not at the same spacing make it akward I missreaded it twice while testplaying
00:14:162 (3) - you can maybe stack it at 00:13:348 (4) - or 00:13:439 (5) - this way they won't overlap and it'll look more clean
00:16:873 (3,4,5) - this look very close, but if you want to space it a bit more you should change pattern because this one will totally break the flow
00:22:836 (2,3) - this blanket should be improved a bit (omg nazi mod blanket)
00:23:379 (4) - it's very close from 00:22:836 (2) - , it's even touching it, for some aestethics and spacing emphasis (since the notes almost never touch slider in your map) you should make it not touching the slider
00:27:535 (1,2,3) - shouldn't that be more spaced instead of less? the noises sound louder than softer
00:38:379 (2,3) - those elements are touching
00:39:463 (5,1) - maybe this could be improved a bit too :c
00:46:692 (8) - shouldn't it be more directed to the sliderbegin according to this one? 00:25:005 (5) -
00:54:644 (3,5) - this touch
01:05:848 (2,3) - the circles have never started that proche to the sliderEnd
01:15:810 (1) - the offset change here, so you can't put it at the end of a stream like this. Instead, you should do some kicksliders instead of stream, and then it would be more easy so focus on new offset

This map is really cool, hope you can rank it!

Applied all

thanks for the really good mod!

@Jusenkyo I fixed the unsnapped line :/

EDIT: I actually declined the first point, if i have it like that then i have to re-scructure the jumps i have every time that sound pops up ):

Last edited by Foxy Grandpa 2016-09-27T18:50:28+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

William K

694 posts

Joined January 2013

William K 2016-09-27T11:10:38+00:00

Hi, from my modding queue

[Hallucinations]

00:01:873 - Actually, the kiai should have started here instead of the downbeat.
00:04:764 (4) - The jump here is actually pretty big for a part that's still in the beginning, and there is no serious sound there, like drums or something else, consider reducing the spacing or you may try my suggestion to put the note stacked with 00:03:861 (3) - .
00:07:475 (5) - I think try moving it diagonal up a bit would be some help to the aesthetics since it overlapped 00:06:571 (2) - in a pretty not good way.
00:18:138 (2,3,4) - How about CTRL+G-ing the one at 00:18:861 (4) - to make it have a good patterning with the others to start from the corner of the screen, and it gives a good emphasize for the vocals there too.
01:25:931 (1,2) - I think you could make these two have a much more larger spacing because of the strong sound here.

GL~

Foxy Grandpa

709 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Foxy Grandpa 2016-09-28T01:19:18+00:00

William K wrote:
Hi, from my modding queue

[Hallucinations]

00:01:873 - Actually, the kiai should have started here instead of the downbeat. oops
00:04:764 (4) - The jump here is actually pretty big for a part that's still in the beginning, and there is no serious sound there, like drums or something else, consider reducing the spacing or you may try my suggestion to put the note stacked with 00:03:861 (3) - . Fixed sorta, I guess
00:07:475 (5) - I think try moving it diagonal up a bit would be some help to the aesthetics since it overlapped 00:06:571 (2) - in a pretty not good way. I just overlapped it
00:18:138 (2,3,4) - How about CTRL+G-ing the one at 00:18:861 (4) - to make it have a good patterning with the others to start from the corner of the screen, and it gives a good emphasize for the vocals there too. I guess ya
01:25:931 (1,2) - I think you could make these two have a much more larger spacing because of the strong sound here. But, It's still in the same pattern as the vertical jumps before it, and it's larger than all of them, and it's sitll a 4* map, sorta

GL~

Thanks!

Gordon123

1,038 posts

Joined June 2013

Gordon123 2016-10-02T19:00:15+00:00

hello m4m owo
[General]

Hitsound file is not 100 ms length:
for example normal-hitfinish.wav (u can write about it in wiki_Ranking_Criteria )
+idk what the random nake for hitsound : normal-hitclap73 etc[list:1337]
[Rizen's Easy]
[list:1337]
just ask : why u not use Kiai Time in first plase ur diff how in Normal etc?

[KKip's Hard]
00:10:547 (5) - move it to x:224 y:324
00:10:728 (1) - move it to x:300 y:352
^ for better flow
00:57:174 (2) - move it to x:320 y:180
00:57:535 (3) - move it to x:296 y:160
^ same
01:21:323 - idk,but u can add here a circle couse here a miss hit[Ascendance's Rain]

lol nice diff)
00:50:397 (4) - move it to x:144 y:112
00:50:486 (5) - move it to x:112 y:80
^ i think here better jump lol
00:59:071 (4) - move it to x:136 y:328
00:59:161 (5) - move it to x:176 y:296
^ better to have been sent to the 00:59:342 (6) - )

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

testplay for ctb diff

nice map

Good Luck

Rizen

1,662 posts

Joined August 2013

Rizen 2016-10-02T20:43:26+00:00

Gordon123 wrote:
hello m4m owo
[General]
Hitsound file is not 100 ms length:
for example normal-hitfinish.wav (u can write about it in wiki_Ranking_Criteria )
actually, they are all >100ms (Except for sliderslide which is meant to be a silent hitsound
proof
+idk what the random nake for hitsound : normal-hitclap73 etc
assuming you meant "name", they are named that since they are custom hitsounds for the difficulty "Rizen's Easy"
[Rizen's Easy]
just ask : why u not use Kiai Time in first plase ur diff how in Normal etc?
Because this is an easy difficulty, mostly beginners to the game will be playing this map. As such, I do not want to blind them at the very start of the song with kiai flashes. That is why I have disabled them.
also;
Ranking Criteria wrote:
Kiai should be consistent throughout difficulties of your mapset (especially since it is shown on the main menu). If you have a guest difficulty from another mapper that uses different kiai, then it's fine as long as it still makes sense.

KKipalt

129 posts

Joined August 2015

KKipalt 2016-10-02T21:56:36+00:00

reply

Gordon123 wrote:
[KKip's Hard]
00:10:547 (5) - move it to x:224 y:324 kills ds and overlap
00:10:728 (1) - move it to x:300 y:352 awkward overlap with next combo
^ for better flow honestly the suggestion doesnt flow that well either imo since u would naturally try to move to the left after the first circle there
00:57:174 (2) - move it to x:320 y:180 done but differently
00:57:535 (3) - move it to x:296 y:160 ^
^ same
01:21:323 - idk,but u can add here a circle couse here a miss hit made a 5note stack

update

osu file format v14

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Creator:FoxyGrandpa
Version:KKip's Hard
Source:N・H・Kにようこそ！
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Battle

2,862 posts

Joined February 2014

Battle 2016-10-04T17:10:51+00:00

M4M

[General]
You should get more opinions on whether or not the video should be included, or at least censor it, because 01:16:714 - 01:18:702 - have pretty provocative angles on things lmao
I think you should find another hitsound for the normal-hitwhistle instead of using the default one, it feels like it clashes a bit too much with the calmness of the music imo

[Easy]
00:25:186 (1,2,3) - This pause kinda feels more awkward than the last one, the last one had it flow into the the next note whereas this just has cutoff flow entirely, maybe find a way to make this a bit smoother?
00:53:921 (3,4) - This could be better lol
00:51:029 (3,4,1) - The angle here is kinda awkward, maybe make it a little less sharp?
01:02:054 (2,3) - I can see this as being somewhat ambiguous to newer players, 3's end it in the place where something would be if it were 1/1 away, try to make it a little more clear if possible

[Hard]
No video?
00:02:415 (2,3) - Having a pause here is really confusing, especially since you stack 00:04:222 (4,5) - which is 1/2 while this is 1/1 zz
00:21:391 (3,4,1) - This is pretty inconsistent with the way that you had the 1/1 gap before, the space between 00:17:053 (2,1) - is extremely large where this is just ds'd, make it consistent or it'll just confuse people
00:27:535 (3) - Having these three beats just fall on a repeat slider is feels really "empty" in terms of emphasis, considering you've been giving technical emphasis on lesser beats by having them clickable
00:29:342 (1,2) - This extended slider feels awkward, especially since there's a beat on the downbeat, as well as it feeling generally out of place
00:40:728 (4,1,2,3) - Having two stacks in the row feel awkward imo, especially since the hitsounding w/ 3 makes it feel like there should be movement, stack on 4 instead maybe?
00:48:861 (3,4) - It's not exactly clear that there's a 1/1 pause here since it's the same combo color and stuff, perhaps using an NC would clearly convey that there's a 1/1 pause
00:56:993 (1,2) - This is a rather big jump for a 1/2, especially since you never did anything like this before
00:57:174 (2,3,4) - Your stack is off lol, if you want to do like a manual stack thing, make sure 4 is consistent with it then
00:57:897 (4,1) - I'm pretty sure this is going to confuse people, not because the concept itself is really confusing, but the fact that 1/2 in the green combo exists, so players might be expecting a 1/2 jump here instead of a 1/1 jump, so yeah, the green combo rly messes with things lol

[Hallucination]
00:02:415 (2,3,1) - The sharp angle here really takes away any emphasis you would want to have on 1
00:04:222 (1,2,3,4,1) - this shape is pretty sharp, which is okay, but then 4 -> 1 feels really awkward as 1 isn't really emphasized at all and has an awkward anti-jump feeling
00:08:198 (2,1) - Emphasis is awkward here as well, it looks as if it's 1/4 apart rn but it's 1/2 apart aaaa
00:14:885 (7) - this should definitely have more emphasis here, the music is pretty strong here
00:18:861 (4) - It feels awkward to have one of those main clap things going on in the background land on a repeat
00:26:270 (5,1) - Same emphasis kinda thing
00:27:535 (1,2,3) - Well you have them clickable, but they don't really feel unique, they feel the same as the other ds'd things so it lacks emphasis and uniqueness to the sound
00:56:451 (5,6,1) - Emphasis is awkward here as well
01:04:041 (1) - The switch from normal sampleset to soft sampleset is extremely noticeable, and awkward
01:09:644 (1) - Skipping the downbeat in this case isn't too great of a choice, there's a pretty noticeable beat there

It's a nice song, unfortunately I don't think I would like to GD the normal for this ;w;

Foxy Grandpa

709 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Foxy Grandpa 2016-10-04T18:52:33+00:00

Battle wrote:

M4M

[General]
You should get more opinions on whether or not the video should be included, or at least censor it, because 01:16:714 - 01:18:702 - have pretty provocative angles on things lmao Yea, there has been a lot of comments on it. The problem is I would really like to keep the video but i have no fucking idea how to edit shit .-. But the video gets pretty deep. But i'll definetly try to fix it
I think you should find another hitsound for the normal-hitwhistle instead of using the default one, it feels like it clashes a bit too much with the calmness of the music imo Yea, I'll try to look for something.

[Hard]
No video? SHIT

[Hallucination]
00:02:415 (2,3,1) - The sharp angle here really takes away any emphasis you would want to have on 1 Fixed this up
00:04:222 (1,2,3,4,1) - this shape is pretty sharp, which is okay, but then 4 -> 1 feels really awkward as 1 isn't really emphasized at all and has an awkward anti-jump feeling I changed this to something easier
00:08:198 (2,1) - Emphasis is awkward here as well, it looks as if it's 1/4 apart rn but it's 1/2 apart aaaa Fixed aaaa
00:14:885 (7) - this should definitely have more emphasis here, the music is pretty strong here Ya, i emphasized it a bit
00:18:861 (4) - It feels awkward to have one of those main clap things going on in the background land on a repeat Changed
00:26:270 (5,1) - Same emphasis kinda thing Fixed kinda thing
00:27:535 (1,2,3) - Well you have them clickable, but they don't really feel unique, they feel the same as the other ds'd things so it lacks emphasis and uniqueness to the sound I agree, i changed it to something more speratic
00:56:451 (5,6,1) - Emphasis is awkward here as well Changed
01:04:041 (1) - The switch from normal sampleset to soft sampleset is extremely noticeable, and awkward Whoops
01:09:644 (1) - Skipping the downbeat in this case isn't too great of a choice, there's a pretty noticeable beat there Ive had this thought in the back of my mind for a while, fixed it

It's a nice song, unfortunately I don't think I would like to GD the normal for this ;w; orip

Thanks battle!

Rizen

1,662 posts

Joined August 2013

Rizen 2016-10-04T22:21:58+00:00

@Battle applied all, thanks!

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Source:N・H・Kにようこそ！
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Foxy Grandpa

709 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Foxy Grandpa 2016-10-05T17:47:34+00:00

Update on the video, Rizen has cencored the suggestive parts, so everything should be fine now

celerih

617 posts

Joined July 2014

celerih 2016-10-05T19:05:00+00:00

Another magical roasty chat log modding banter extravaganza

2016-10-05 14:51 FoxyGrandpa: fuck yea got someone doing normal for sure now
2016-10-05 14:52 celerih: Litteraly perfect symmetry
2016-10-05 14:52 celerih: http://puu.sh/ryPiI/fcee86998a.jpg
2016-10-05 14:53 FoxyGrandpa: where wtf
2016-10-05 14:53 FoxyGrandpa: is this a prank
2016-10-05 14:53 celerih: perrrrrrrrrfeecccccccccccccccttttt http://puu.sh/ryPnS/0b37dd39c2.jpg
2016-10-05 14:53 FoxyGrandpa: WHEREEEEEEEEE
2016-10-05 14:53 FoxyGrandpa: HIGIH
2016-10-05 14:53 FoxyGrandpa: LIGHT
2016-10-05 14:53 celerih: 00:38:017 (1,2,3,4) -
2016-10-05 14:54 FoxyGrandpa: motherfuck
2016-10-05 14:54 celerih: 00:07:836 (1,2) -
2016-10-05 14:54 celerih: 00:06:933 (3) - Also this is crokked
2016-10-05 14:54 FoxyGrandpa: FUCK
2016-10-05 14:54 celerih: 00:50:306 (3,4,5) - Pattern here is quite ugly
2016-10-05 14:55 celerih: overlap doesn't work too well
2016-10-05 14:55 celerih: 00:51:029 (1,2,3,4) - This couldn't be further from symmetry
2016-10-05 14:55 celerih: you need some glasses
2016-10-05 14:55 celerih: Or you need to stop the drugs
2016-10-05 14:55 celerih: oh wait what
2016-10-05 14:56 celerih: Ok it is the same sliders, but it,s not organized correctly
2016-10-05 14:56 FoxyGrandpa: okay
2016-10-05 14:56 FoxyGrandpa: like
2016-10-05 14:56 FoxyGrandpa: write these down cause i gotta go back to class
2016-10-05 14:56 celerih: I have log
2016-10-05 14:56 celerih: 00:51:029 (1,2,3,4) -
2016-10-05 14:57 celerih: sliders are the same but pattern is off
2016-10-05 14:57 celerih: 1 degree off sliders aren't cool 01:02:595 (1,2,3,4) -
2016-10-05 14:58 celerih: 01:05:487 (1,2) - You concentrate so much on symmetry, so why are sliders like these all over the map not the same?
2016-10-05 14:58 celerih: It's like super basic stuff
2016-10-05 14:59 FoxyGrandpa: :c
2016-10-05 14:59 celerih: 01:10:909 (4) - This slider is sad
2016-10-05 14:59 celerih: Take it out of it's misery
2016-10-05 14:59 FoxyGrandpa: ur sad
2016-10-05 14:59 celerih: nathan would cry at it
2016-10-05 14:59 FoxyGrandpa: roasted
2016-10-05 15:00 celerih: Maybe I'm roasted but it's cuz my maps are fire
2016-10-05 15:00 FoxyGrandpa: ohSHIT
2016-10-05 15:00 celerih: *drops mic*
2016-10-05 15:00 celerih: *leaves*
2016-10-05 15:00 celerih: Nice kneesocks jumps at the end
2016-10-05 15:01 FoxyGrandpa: its not kneesocks tier
2016-10-05 15:01 FoxyGrandpa: but its basically that but building up
2016-10-05 15:01 celerih: It's insane diff on kneesocks level
2016-10-05 15:01 celerih: But it's fine
2016-10-05 15:01 celerih: I just wanted to say they were fun
2016-10-05 15:01 FoxyGrandpa: they play fine
2016-10-05 15:01 FoxyGrandpa: yeh
2016-10-05 15:01 FoxyGrandpa: yeh
2016-10-05 15:01 celerih: They are fun to play even if they are PP magic
2016-10-05 15:02 celerih: This is it
2016-10-05 15:02 FoxyGrandpa: okay sik
2016-10-05 15:02 celerih: 00:04:945 (1,2,3) -
2016-10-05 15:02 FoxyGrandpa: thanks my dude
2016-10-05 15:02 celerih: Wait
2016-10-05 15:02 celerih: this is kinda ehhhhhhhh
2016-10-05 15:02 celerih: 00:05:668 (3) -
2016-10-05 15:02 FoxyGrandpa: ehhhhhh
2016-10-05 15:02 FoxyGrandpa: ill fix it later
2016-10-05 15:02 celerih: Move this slider to make it more intersting
2016-10-05 15:03 celerih: I'll put log in thread so you can come back and fix
2016-10-05 15:03 FoxyGrandpa: tyty

Cheesecake

729 posts

Joined December 2013

Cheesecake 2016-10-05T19:19:20+00:00

discord

[Rizen's Easy]

01:12:102 - yo the border goes off screen

[KKips' Hard]

00:08:559 (2,3) - These underlaps are pretty ugly
00:19:403 (1) - Raise the first white node a bit to make that kink less severe
00:25:005 (1) - I think it might be better to have the downbeat be clickable, since that sustained note is a lot stronger than the one currently being followed

[Hallucinations]

00:05:306 (2,3) - Since you seem to like mapping with symmetry something like this would play better
00:14:523 (5,6) - Having this just be two circles is pretty boring, make it a slider instead to fit the vocals better
00:46:511 (7) - ok but stack
01:13:077 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This plays weirdly cos you have varying jump angles within the same jump combo, (2,3,4) is a triangle and then later (5,6,7) is close to a right angle which can be pretty ehhhh. With the long jump patterns you have else where in the map jump angles aren't QUITE so important because you're resetting the combo but it can be something to bear in mind
01:27:196 (1) - ok but put it on the Y-axis

not a lot to mod sorry needs more diffs zz

KKipalt

129 posts

Joined August 2015

KKipalt 2016-10-06T00:21:08+00:00

mod 1

Battle wrote:
[Hard]
No video?
00:02:415 (2,3) - Having a pause here is really confusing, especially since you stack 00:04:222 (4,5) - which is 1/2 while this is 1/1 zz chanjd 4:222
00:21:391 (3,4,1) - This is pretty inconsistent with the way that you had the 1/1 gap before, the space between 00:17:053 (2,1) - is extremely large where this is just ds'd, make it consistent or it'll just confuse people ye
00:27:535 (3) - Having these three beats just fall on a repeat slider is feels really "empty" in terms of emphasis, considering you've been giving technical emphasis on lesser beats by having them clickable k
00:29:342 (1,2) - This extended slider feels awkward, especially since there's a beat on the downbeat, as well as it feeling generally out of place downbeat not very noticabl, does feel outta place tho so chanjd
00:40:728 (4,1,2,3) - Having two stacks in the row feel awkward imo, especially since the hitsounding w/ 3 makes it feel like there should be movement, stack on 4 instead maybe? k
00:48:861 (3,4) - It's not exactly clear that there's a 1/1 pause here since it's the same combo color and stuff, perhaps using an NC would clearly convey that there's a 1/1 pause ncd
00:56:993 (1,2) - This is a rather big jump for a 1/2, especially since you never did anything like this before sound has a lot more impact imo
00:57:174 (2,3,4) - Your stack is off lol, if you want to do like a manual stack thing, make sure 4 is consistent with it then doesnt look off, restacked just in case
00:57:897 (4,1) - I'm pretty sure this is going to confuse people, not because the concept itself is really confusing, but the fact that 1/2 in the green combo exists, so players might be expecting a 1/2 jump here instead of a 1/1 jump, so yeah, the green combo rly messes with things lol might, its readable at that bpm and ar + ds

mod 2

Cheesecake wrote:
[KKips' Hard]

00:08:559 (2,3) - These underlaps are pretty ugly i cuda sworn that i did that like 90 years ago xd
00:19:403 (1) - Raise the first white node a bit to make that kink less severe idk if i did it correctly, tried
00:25:005 (1) - I think it might be better to have the downbeat be clickable, since that sustained note is a lot stronger than the one currently being followed i dont have ears.

code xd

osu file format v14

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TitleUnicode:Puzzle (TV size)
Artist:ROUND TABLE feat. Nino
ArtistUnicode:ROUND TABLE feat. Nino
Creator:FoxyGrandpa
Version:KKip's Hard
Source:N・H・Kにようこそ！
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vague responses cus still busy xd

Rizen

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Joined August 2013

Rizen 2016-10-06T00:30:32+00:00

Cheesecake wrote:
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[Rizen's Easy]

01:12:102 - yo the border goes off screen end me (fixed)

Thanks!

zzz

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Ascendance

Elite Mapper

4,225 posts

Joined July 2013

Ascendance 2016-10-06T20:18:07+00:00

Jusenkyo wrote:
Nobody asked for a mod, but i want to help a bit.

[General]
Turn off Widescreen Support, It does not matter much, but to avoid future problems.

[Ascendance's Rain]
00:07:836 (1) - Move it a little to the left, to avoid problems when you get to the note. okay w
00:19:041 (4,1) - It would look better if to emphasize with an h-dash. As you did 00:20:306 (3,1) - here. hmm, I think the lower vocals is fine for this
01:22:859 (1) - Switching from one sound to another so suddenly sounds bad, try to keep up, it looks good. idk why it was like that, i'm an idiot
Well, nothing else to say, the map itself is very good luck with the ranking!

Thank you, Jusen!

late

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 49579
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 2.3

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Title:Puzzle (TV size)
TitleUnicode:Puzzle (TV size)
Artist:ROUND TABLE feat. Nino
ArtistUnicode:ROUND TABLE feat. Nino
Creator:FoxyGrandpa
Version:Ascendance's Rain
Source:N・H・Kにようこそ！
Tags:Opening Welcome To The NHK Nihon Hikikomori Kyōkai パズル　「N・H・Kにようこそ！」OPテーマ N.H.K. ni Yōkoso! Puzzle! OP theme Ascendance KKipalt Rizen
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[Difficulty]
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Foxy Grandpa

709 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Foxy Grandpa 2016-10-06T20:37:08+00:00

All GDs updated and fixed all of cheesecakes suggestions ~~except for the one on 01:13:077 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - because im busy rn ;-;~~
EDIT: I changed around a lot of the jump sections to make them flow better, at the cost of increasing the SR

celerih

617 posts

Joined July 2014

celerih 2016-10-10T03:16:23+00:00

Chat log, because Foxy doesn't know how to copypaste

2016-10-09 22:56 celerih: 00:07:836 (1,2) - 
2016-10-09 22:56 celerih: Fix
2016-10-09 22:56 celerih: 00:07:836 (1,2) - 
2016-10-09 22:56 celerih: Overlay here is kinda ugly, try and avoid stuff like that
2016-10-09 22:57 celerih: 00:10:728 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/rDHOq/fb9ca4a085.jpg
2016-10-09 22:57 celerih: 00:11:451 (3,4) - http://puu.sh/rDHOC/b08532f50a.jpg
2016-10-09 22:58 celerih: 00:12:174 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/rDHRn/ec0d6c3bdb.jpg
2016-10-09 22:59 celerih: 00:25:005 (5,1) - They go weirdly one into another
2016-10-09 23:00 celerih: 00:26:451 (1,2) - These sliders are ugly as hell
2016-10-09 23:00 FoxyGrandpa: FUCK
2016-10-09 23:00 FoxyGrandpa: WHAT
2016-10-09 23:00 FoxyGrandpa: WHAT
2016-10-09 23:00 FoxyGrandpa: WHAZWT
2016-10-09 23:00 FoxyGrandpa: WHATS HAPPENING
2016-10-09 23:00 FoxyGrandpa: HOLD UP
2016-10-09 23:00 celerih: Even when playing your maps makes me angry
2016-10-09 23:00 celerih: so I'm modding
2016-10-09 23:01 celerih: It's a fun map
2016-10-09 23:01 celerih: But it has errors that make me sad
2016-10-09 23:01 FoxyGrandpa: hell yea
2016-10-09 23:01 FoxyGrandpa: okay let me fix all these
2016-10-09 23:01 celerih: 00:29:342 (1,2) - BLANKEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTT
2016-10-09 23:01 FoxyGrandpa: and watch mew2king body armada
2016-10-09 23:01 celerih: I'm a mew2king fdan
2016-10-09 23:01 FoxyGrandpa: are you watching big house 6 rn?
2016-10-09 23:01 celerih: but like unless armada ia playing badly M2K will like
2016-10-09 23:01 celerih: lose
2016-10-09 23:02 celerih: I'M watching yee
2016-10-09 23:02 FoxyGrandpa: https://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp
2016-10-09 23:02 FoxyGrandpa: hbox vs armada feelsbadman
2016-10-09 23:02 celerih: B to the L to the A to the N to the K to the E to the T
2016-10-09 23:02 celerih: 00:31:150 (2,3) - BLANKET
2016-10-09 23:03 celerih: 00:31:873 (4) - Space this out more
2016-10-09 23:03 celerih: 00:32:415 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This jump section makes no sense
2016-10-09 23:03 celerih: 00:35:668 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - This part is fun af
2016-10-09 23:04 celerih: It's like the most old map feeling part
2016-10-09 23:04 celerih: 00:35:848 (3,2) - Overlap these two
2016-10-09 23:04 FoxyGrandpa: the point was, with the light combo colors im going for more symmetry / old map stuff
2016-10-09 23:04 FoxyGrandpa: then with the neon its more modern
2016-10-09 23:04 celerih: I don't use custom combo colours
2016-10-09 23:04 celerih: so like
2016-10-09 23:04 celerih: yeah
2016-10-09 23:05 FoxyGrandpa: o
2016-10-09 23:05 celerih: 00:38:017 (1,2,3,4) - Make these into a correct square
2016-10-09 23:05 celerih: 00:42:535 (1) - You could space this slider out like the slider here 00:41:270 (1) - 
2016-10-09 23:06 celerih: 00:42:535 (1,2) - Make these two the same
2016-10-09 23:07 celerih: 00:43:800 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/rDIhd/667021da14.jpg
2016-10-09 23:07 celerih: All you have to do is copy paste and then  ctrl-h
2016-10-09 23:07 celerih: pls
2016-10-09 23:08 FoxyGrandpa: oh fuck did i not fix that
2016-10-09 23:08 FoxyGrandpa: shit
2016-10-09 23:09 celerih: 01:05:487 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/rDIo2/1c0e61b6f9.jpg
2016-10-09 23:09 celerih: If next time I play this map and I still see stuff like this imma cut you bitch
2016-10-09 23:10 FoxyGrandpa: ok dad
2016-10-09 23:10 celerih: 01:21:232 (5) - Why the repeat slider?
2016-10-09 23:10 FoxyGrandpa: i didnt like the way a stream went into the jumps
2016-10-09 23:10 FoxyGrandpa: and kicksliders didnt feel right
2016-10-09 23:11 celerih: But stream into slider is like super fun
2016-10-09 23:11 celerih: stream into jumps I meant

Foxy Grandpa

709 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Foxy Grandpa 2016-10-14T16:26:19+00:00

Updated with Missa's diff, 1 more to go \o/

Saileach

525 posts

Joined November 2014

Saileach 2016-10-14T17:04:34+00:00

#modreqs

Rizen's Easy

- i feel that 01:13:620 (2,3) - would look and play a little better like This
uhh.. thats really all i got... Song is weird, not really sure how you could map an easy diff any better than this.

missa1912's Normal

- Confused as to why 00:39:644 (1) - is slightly curved when all the others are straight
Same as above, nothing else to really add

KKip's Hard

- 00:01:150 (3,4) - Blanket better
- 00:04:583 (6,1) - ^
- 00:12:716 (3,4) - ^

Hallucinations

- Not sure i agree with the spacing here, i feel like something like this would be better though thats just my opinion
- Bring 00:04:945 (1,2) - up a little bit to blanket a little better with 00:04:945 (1,2) - ?
- 00:11:451 (3,4) - swap these 2? feels a little better going right, left, right, left than right, left, left, right
- Try changing the angles ever so slightly on 01:02:595 (1,2,3,4) - , might play better, up to you
- 01:09:644 (1,2) - Blanket Better

Nice song and map, sorry for short mod, 4 am in the morning >.<, gl getting ranked

KKipalt

129 posts

Joined August 2015

KKipalt 2016-10-16T01:41:25+00:00

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applied all for dakini's

Foxy Grandpa

709 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Foxy Grandpa 2016-10-16T05:46:54+00:00

Every difficulty is finished, and hitsounded

Let's get this ranked!!

missa1912

512 posts

Joined July 2015

missa1912 2016-10-16T06:16:23+00:00

DakiniBrave wrote:
#modreqs

missa1912's Normal
- Confused as to why 00:39:644 (1) - is slightly curved when all the others are straight - yeah idk, change it into a straight one
Same as above, nothing else to really add

Nice song and map, sorry for short mod, 4 am in the morning >.<, gl getting ranked

thanks for the mod! :3

updatee

osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 49579
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
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Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
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[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1.4

[Metadata]
Title:Puzzle (TV size)
TitleUnicode:Puzzle (TV size)
Artist:ROUND TABLE feat. Nino
ArtistUnicode:ROUND TABLE feat. Nino
Creator:FoxyGrandpa
Version:missa1912's Normal
Source:N・H・Kにようこそ！
Tags:Opening Welcome To The NHK Nihon Hikikomori Kyōkai パズル　「N・H・Kにようこそ！」OPテーマ N.H.K. ni Yōkoso! Puzzle! OP theme Ascendance KKipalt Rizen missa1912
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[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3.5
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Rizen

1,662 posts

Joined August 2013

Rizen 2016-10-16T07:26:03+00:00

DakiniBrave wrote:
Rizen's Easy
- i feel that 01:13:620 (2,3) - would look and play a little better like This
uhh.. thats really all i got... Song is weird, not really sure how you could map an easy diff any better than this.

I prefer the current pattern as the symmetry is both appealing to the eye and easy enough to read. Also using the blanketing sliders pattern would mess up my 'flow pattern' at that point

Thanks!

Foxy Grandpa

709 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Foxy Grandpa 2016-10-16T09:42:53+00:00

DakiniBrave wrote:
#modreqs

Hallucinations
- Not sure i agree with the spacing here, i feel like something like this would be better though thats just my opinion mmm, I've explained this a couple times but if i change that, then i have to change every other time that pattern pops up
- Bring 00:04:945 (1,2) - up a little bit to blanket a little better with 00:04:945 (1,2) - ? wut you highlighted the same thing
- 00:11:451 (3,4) - swap these 2? feels a little better going right, left, right, left than right, left, left, right Fixed
- Try changing the angles ever so slightly on 01:02:595 (1,2,3,4) - , might play better, up to you Im gonna leave to keep the vertical angle flow
- 01:09:644 (1,2) - Blanket Better no u

Nice song and map, sorry for short mod, 4 am in the morning >.<, gl getting ranked

'

Thanks!

KKipalt

129 posts

Joined August 2015

KKipalt 2016-10-18T07:09:03+00:00

agen.

ok then

2016-10-17 23:40 FoxyGrandpa: kipp
2016-10-17 23:40 FoxyGrandpa: can you look at my diff for puzzle
2016-10-17 23:40 KKipalt: kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2016-10-17 23:40 KKipalt: k
2016-10-17 23:40 FoxyGrandpa: and tell me if its bad or not
2016-10-17 23:40 FoxyGrandpa: thanks mom
2016-10-17 23:41 KKipalt: its
2016-10-17 23:41 KKipalt: way
2016-10-17 23:41 KKipalt: toooooo
2016-10-17 23:41 KKipalt: 2012 symetrical
2016-10-17 23:41 FoxyGrandpa: thats the entire point
2016-10-17 23:41 KKipalt: WAYYY TOOO
2016-10-17 23:41 FoxyGrandpa: THATS THE POINT
2016-10-17 23:42 KKipalt: 00:04:945 (1) - 
2016-10-17 23:42 KKipalt: starting here it 
2016-10-17 23:42 KKipalt: like
2016-10-17 23:42 KKipalt: dies
2016-10-17 23:42 FoxyGrandpa: i fixed that
2016-10-17 23:42 FoxyGrandpa: update it in a sec
2016-10-17 23:42 KKipalt: k 
2016-10-17 23:42 FoxyGrandpa: k go for it
2016-10-17 23:43 KKipalt: ok foxy y is it so symetrical
2016-10-17 23:43 FoxyGrandpa: because the song is from 2006, and i wanted it to be as old map like as possible
2016-10-17 23:44 KKipalt: 00:09:282 (1,2,3,4) - 
2016-10-17 23:44 KKipalt: this looks pretty off
2016-10-17 23:44 FoxyGrandpa: whoops
2016-10-17 23:46 KKipalt: 00:10:728 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern triggers me
2016-10-17 23:46 KKipalt: mainly cus top 2 dont go with bottom 2 that well
2016-10-17 23:46 KKipalt: lemme play thru the map once
2016-10-17 23:46 FoxyGrandpa: alright
2016-10-17 23:46 FoxyGrandpa: just know that i went for playability over aesthetics
2016-10-17 23:48 KKipalt: aesthetics are part of quality
2016-10-17 23:48 KKipalt: :L
2016-10-17 23:48 FoxyGrandpa: how does it play?
2016-10-17 23:48 KKipalt: ok while playingf
2016-10-17 23:48 KKipalt: 01:15:607 (7,1) - 
2016-10-17 23:48 KKipalt: this part
2016-10-17 23:48 KKipalt: stood out a lot
2016-10-17 23:48 KKipalt: as in
2016-10-17 23:48 KKipalt: it made no sense to my brain
2016-10-17 23:48 FoxyGrandpa: >how
2016-10-17 23:48 FoxyGrandpa: like
2016-10-17 23:48 FoxyGrandpa: i can see why
2016-10-17 23:49 FoxyGrandpa: but if you look at the video / the song itself, it changes pace very suddenly and stylistically very whacky and different
2016-10-17 23:49 FoxyGrandpa: theres a lot of deep shit going on in this map
2016-10-17 23:49 FoxyGrandpa: even if it's just tv size
2016-10-17 23:49 FoxyGrandpa: it's probably the most effort i've put into a map yet
2016-10-17 23:49 KKipalt: its
2016-10-17 23:49 KKipalt: uh
2016-10-17 23:49 KKipalt: too close
2016-10-17 23:49 KKipalt: lmao
2016-10-17 23:50 FoxyGrandpa: youwerenttalkingaboutthatjumpsection
2016-10-17 23:50 FoxyGrandpa: wereyou
2016-10-17 23:50 FoxyGrandpa: justthatnote
2016-10-17 23:50 KKipalt: yep
2016-10-17 23:50 KKipalt: lmao
2016-10-17 23:50 FoxyGrandpa: brb
2016-10-17 23:50 FoxyGrandpa: killing myself
2016-10-17 23:51 FoxyGrandpa: changed it
2016-10-17 23:51 KKipalt: in fact
2016-10-17 23:51 KKipalt: a good amount of the jump into slider parts feel pretty strange
2016-10-17 23:51 KKipalt: xd
2016-10-17 23:52 FoxyGrandpa: well overall
2016-10-17 23:52 FoxyGrandpa: how does it play
2016-10-17 23:52 KKipalt: ok.
2016-10-17 23:52 FoxyGrandpa: like, was it fun?
2016-10-17 23:53 KKipalt: i usually dont find maps like these fun
2016-10-17 23:53 KKipalt: so the answer wud be no
2016-10-17 23:53 KKipalt: but
2016-10-17 23:53 KKipalt: i wasnt not fun
2016-10-17 23:53 KKipalt: if u know wat i mean
2016-10-17 23:53 FoxyGrandpa: yea i feel u
2016-10-17 23:53 FoxyGrandpa: okay final question 4 u
2016-10-17 23:53 FoxyGrandpa: is it rankable
2016-10-17 23:53 KKipalt: n o atm
2016-10-17 23:54 FoxyGrandpa: okay, what would you change
2016-10-17 23:54 KKipalt: not bcus of criteria
2016-10-17 23:54 KKipalt: more because of aesthetics
2016-10-17 23:54 KKipalt: xd
2016-10-17 23:54 FoxyGrandpa: yea ik
2016-10-17 23:54 FoxyGrandpa: like
2016-10-17 23:54 FoxyGrandpa: which aesthetics stood out
2016-10-17 23:54 KKipalt: if u wanna know which one stood out the most
2016-10-17 23:54 KKipalt: 01:06:933 (7,1,3) - 
2016-10-17 23:55 KKipalt: WIW LAD WAT IS THAT
2016-10-17 23:55 FoxyGrandpa: those arent the same fucking shape
2016-10-17 23:55 KKipalt: also the angles seem to trigger my 3-8degree senses
2016-10-17 23:56 KKipalt: about 1:06
2016-10-17 23:56 KKipalt: u shud blanket one slider around the other one lmao
2016-10-17 23:56 KKipalt: 00:36:210 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - things like this
2016-10-17 23:57 KKipalt: 00:38:017 (1,2,3,4) - this is off 
2016-10-17 23:57 KKipalt: 00:40:547 (4,5) - ur structure doesnt support this kind of overlapping for most of the song
2016-10-17 23:58 KKipalt: k?
2016-10-17 23:58 FoxyGrandpa: yea, im fixing them
2016-10-17 23:59 KKipalt: also generally if feels like theres specific sections for sliders and specific sections for circles
2016-10-17 23:59 KKipalt: the placement seems uneven
2016-10-17 23:59 KKipalt: also visual spacing is pretty important imo
2016-10-18 00:00 FoxyGrandpa: what do you mean
2016-10-18 00:00 KKipalt: which sentenc
2016-10-18 00:00 KKipalt: xd
2016-10-18 00:00 FoxyGrandpa: first one
2016-10-18 00:00 KKipalt: ur not blending the 2 concepts well enough
2016-10-18 00:00 KKipalt: also i gtg soon
2016-10-18 00:01 FoxyGrandpa: https://puu.sh/rMV95/563c7f88db.png
2016-10-18 00:01 FoxyGrandpa: boi
2016-10-18 00:01 KKipalt: lmao
2016-10-18 00:01 KKipalt: idk i hav ur original parts
2016-10-18 00:02 FoxyGrandpa: WHY
2016-10-18 00:02 FoxyGrandpa: UPDATE YOUR DIFF
2016-10-18 00:02 KKipalt: like
2016-10-18 00:02 KKipalt: i updated to mod
2016-10-18 00:02 KKipalt: but like
2016-10-18 00:02 FoxyGrandpa: HOLY SHIT KIPP YOU'RE SO BADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2016-10-18 00:02 KKipalt: i usd my own osz backup to updat
2016-10-18 00:02 KKipalt: lmao
2016-10-18 00:03 KKipalt: i got a fc on my own map
2016-10-18 00:03 KKipalt: with 80acc
2016-10-18 00:03 KKipalt: im proud
2016-10-18 00:03 FoxyGrandpa: post this in the thread
2016-10-18 00:03 KKipalt: 355ur hel yea

Mun

468 posts

Joined July 2015

Mun 2016-10-19T01:02:46+00:00

rank daze

Hallucinations

00:13:620 (1) - Move this back a bit, there's no real reason for SV change to affect this distance
00:19:945 (2,3,4,5,1) - The slider at the end of this has terribly inconsistent distance from the square
00:30:246 (4,5,6) - This looks terribly ugly
01:09:101 (3,1) - Either they're stacked or not. It looks weird when it's just a tiny bit off like this
01:27:196 (1) - Personally I think this is cooler in the exact center of the playfield, but your choice.
http://puu.sh/rNK0G/79529a3e06.osr why-i-don't-playtest-when-not-warmed-up.osr

Ultima Fox's Insane

UNRANKABLE: The drain does not start at the same time as Hallucinations. All difficulties should start and end at the same time.
Gonna start with: 01:16:533 (3,4,5,6) - Looks like you dragged these a bit. Protip: when hitsounding, lock notes
00:02:957 (4,3) - These two notes aren't properly overlapped.
00:10:367 (5,1,2) - This sort of movement is a little bit snappier than it should be. Space out the double just a bit more.
00:11:270 (3,4) - If you were trying to blanket this, you sure didn't. In the case that you weren't, however, its spacing is good.
00:16:511 (2,4) - These two aren't overlapped either
00:36:210 (5,6,7,8,9) - this burst is just a tiny bit skewed and it bothers me.
01:15:811 (1) - Same problem that exists with one burst in Hallucinations diff, this last note is just a little overspaced and it is mildly disorienting.

kipp's Hard (short mod)

I'm not experienced with hard diffs at all.
00:46:873 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern is uncomfortable and ugly.
00:48:318 (1,2,1,2) - Intuitive spacing is important. Things like these are hard for new players to read.
honestly that's all I got LOL

the map doesn't have too many flaws, and the big ones that it does I am in no position to fix.
I'll hitsound after these are applied.

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Ultima Fox 2016-10-19T01:16:50+00:00

Mun wrote:
rank daze

Ultima Fox's Insane
UNRANKABLE: The drain does not start at the same time as Hallucinations. All difficulties should start and end at the same time. fucfcsk tsha fuckignbs gamejs i awant tosa diejrti(Fixed)
Gonna start with: 01:16:533 (3,4,5,6) - Looks like you dragged these a bit. Protip: when hitsounding, lock notes Lmao I didnt hitsound foxy did (i think) but yeahj fixed
00:02:957 (4,3) - These two notes aren't properly overlapped. Fixed
00:10:367 (5,1,2) - This sort of movement is a little bit snappier than it should be. Space out the double just a bit more. Fixed
00:11:270 (3,4) - If you were trying to blanket this, you sure didn't. In the case that you weren't, however, its spacing is good. Wasn't trying to blanket lol
00:16:511 (2,4) - These two aren't overlapped either fuk ur right fixed
00:36:210 (5,6,7,8,9) - this burst is just a tiny bit skewed and it bothers me. Fixed.....?
01:15:811 (1) - Same problem that exists with one burst in Hallucinations diff, this last note is just a little overspaced and it is mildly disorienting. Fixed w

the map doesn't have too many flaws, and the big ones that it does I am in no position to fix.
I'll hitsound after these are applied.

thanks lol

EDIT forgot to put update lol

but thats just a theory, a game theory!

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mardoka

235 posts

Joined May 2013

mardoka 2016-10-19T02:42:39+00:00

love this song. I might mod this map later, in the meantime hav a star

Foxy Grandpa

709 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Foxy Grandpa 2016-10-19T04:25:36+00:00

nubery wrote:
love this song. I might mod this map later, in the meantime hav a star

thank you so much!

Battle

2,862 posts

Joined February 2014

Battle 2016-10-21T03:37:06+00:00

Bringing back up an old topic about metadata, the one that was suggested in the first page actually seems correct.

As you can see here, the song is listed as the first thing on the list. However, it does not state "(TV size)" anywhere in the title. Going off metadata of already-ranked maps can be unreliable due to the fact that metadata wasn't extremely scrutinized in the past, therefore you shouldn't rely on previously-ranked maps for reliable metadata

I also believe having it as "featuring" instead of "feat." is much more appropriate due to the fact that I can't seem to find "feat." around.

I'm not an expert at romanizing, but to me the metadata should be:

Artist: ROUND TABLE featuring Nino

Title: パズル

Romanized title: Puzzle

Don't quote me on the romanized part lol
Source: http://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/flyingdog/-/D ... 36097.html

Foxy Grandpa

709 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Foxy Grandpa 2016-10-21T18:52:22+00:00

Battle wrote:
Bringing back up an old topic about metadata, the one that was suggested in the first page actually seems correct.

As you can see here, the song is listed as the first thing on the list. However, it does not state "(TV size)" anywhere in the title. Going off metadata of already-ranked maps can be unreliable due to the fact that metadata wasn't extremely scrutinized in the past, therefore you shouldn't rely on previously-ranked maps for reliable metadata

I also believe having it as "featuring" instead of "feat." is much more appropriate due to the fact that I can't seem to find "feat." around.

I'm not an expert at romanizing, but to me the metadata should be:

Artist: ROUND TABLE featuring Nino

Title: パズル

Romanized title: Puzzle

Don't quote me on the romanized part lol
Source: http://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/flyingdog/-/D ... 36097.html

Thanks battle! I'll change this when I get home

EDIT: Updated the metadata and changed some jumps in the beginning'

I also applied everything Mun suggested

KKipalt

129 posts

Joined August 2015

KKipalt 2016-10-23T06:25:34+00:00

changd all on muns mod

xd

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squirrelpascals

982 posts

Joined March 2015

squirrelpascals 2016-10-23T07:22:00+00:00

meaningless kudoos

boop

00:48 FoxyGrandpa: ayeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
00:48 FoxyGrandpa: can i bug u to look at my map for a sec
00:50 squirrelpascals: when im done with mods sure
00:50 squirrelpascals: we can do irc
00:50 FoxyGrandpa: yeeeeeeeeeeee
00:51 squirrelpascals: eet
00:55 squirrelpascals: what song, just curious
00:55 FoxyGrandpa: puzzle
00:55 squirrelpascals: i know you have good taste
00:55 FoxyGrandpa: xd
00:55 squirrelpascals: ?
00:55 *FoxyGrandpa is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1080030 ROUND TABLE featuring Nino - Puzzle]
00:56 squirrelpascals: mkay
00:56 FoxyGrandpa: nhk opening
00:56 FoxyGrandpa: yeye
00:56 squirrelpascals: yeeeyeae
00:56 FoxyGrandpa: (im too lazy to try and rank anything longer)
00:57 squirrelpascals: im too lazy to rank anything
00:57 FoxyGrandpa: the follower looked good enough for rank tbh
00:58 squirrelpascals: bns rejected it for stupidest reasons
00:58 squirrelpascals: i bascially lost my patience
00:58 FoxyGrandpa: i feel you
00:59 FoxyGrandpa: i got that way with daze after i realized like
00:59 FoxyGrandpa: wow
00:59 FoxyGrandpa: this sucks
01:00 squirrelpascals: yeah
01:00 squirrelpascals: waiting for osu next like
01:00 squirrelpascals: new system plES
01:01 FoxyGrandpa: loved is the next step
01:35 squirrelpascals: hey
01:36 squirrelpascals: ill check that map
01:36 FoxyGrandpa: hey
01:36 FoxyGrandpa: neat
01:37 *FoxyGrandpa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1080030 ROUND TABLE featuring Nino - Puzzle [Hallucinations]]
01:38 squirrelpascals: k
01:38 squirrelpascals: hallucinations diff?
01:38 FoxyGrandpa: ye
01:38 squirrelpascals: k
01:38 squirrelpascals: spec
01:40 squirrelpascals: cool
01:40 FoxyGrandpa: perfect alternating
01:40 FoxyGrandpa: wtf
01:41 FoxyGrandpa: r u sure about that
01:41 squirrelpascals: damn
01:41 FoxyGrandpa: hold up
01:41 FoxyGrandpa: i havent actually tried it
01:41 FoxyGrandpa: on dt
01:41 squirrelpascals: k
01:42 FoxyGrandpa: anyways
01:43 FoxyGrandpa: lo
01:43 FoxyGrandpa: what do you think
01:43 squirrelpascals: its a nice concept
01:43 squirrelpascals: can be excecuted better imo
01:43 FoxyGrandpa: like, the part i feel is the weakest rn is the last jump section
01:43 squirrelpascals: first, give ti higher ar
01:43 squirrelpascals: ill get to taht
01:44 FoxyGrandpa: ill bump it to 9.2
01:44 squirrelpascals: mm
01:44 squirrelpascals: 9.5
01:44 FoxyGrandpa: :/
01:44 FoxyGrandpa: thats kinda pushing it since it's 4.5 stars :/
01:44 FoxyGrandpa: err
01:44 squirrelpascals: okay 9.3 or 9.4
01:44 FoxyGrandpa: 4.8
01:44 squirrelpascals: yeah
01:44 squirrelpascals: okay second
01:44 FoxyGrandpa: 9.3 it is
01:44 squirrelpascals: i dont like these combo colors
01:45 squirrelpascals: 00:08:559 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -  the ones used here
01:45 FoxyGrandpa: :////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
01:45 FoxyGrandpa: oh right
01:45 FoxyGrandpa: those are fucked up
01:45 squirrelpascals: they dont fit the bg or the other colors
01:45 FoxyGrandpa: shit
01:45 squirrelpascals: okay 
01:46 FoxyGrandpa: i was going for something to fit with the video instead
01:46 squirrelpascals: oh okya
01:46 squirrelpascals: i cant see video due to potato so thats fine
01:46 squirrelpascals: 00:15:246 (2,3,4) - obtuse angle doesnt fit with map
01:47 squirrelpascals:  00:15:969 (5,6,1,2) - ctrl+s and make it bigger imo
01:47 squirrelpascals: your use of symmetry is quite nice
01:47 squirrelpascals: 00:23:559 (5,1) - Overlapping with the reverse arrow is currently unrankable ------------------------------------------
01:48 squirrelpascals: 00:27:897 (3,1,2,3) - transition with 2 feels quite weird
01:48 squirrelpascals: but for that you can just ctrl g 00:28:439 (2,3) -  and move 4
01:48 squirrelpascals: 00:29:885 (2) - if youre trying to blanket its off
01:49 squirrelpascals: 00:32:415 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i see where this consolation is going but make the triangle pattern thing more recognizable
01:49 squirrelpascals: and space 00:31:330 (3,4,1) -  mroe
01:50 squirrelpascals: 00:33:861 (1) - put it on 00:32:776 (3) -  for structure
01:51 squirrelpascals: did you play andrea before you played this map wtf
01:51 FoxyGrandpa: the thing is
01:52 squirrelpascals: 00:48:318 (1) - 240 y60 imo shows more strucure imo
01:52 squirrelpascals: yes?
01:52 FoxyGrandpa: i tried to go for perfect symmetry, since the song is so old i wanted to try something completely different
01:52 squirrelpascals: okay thats cool
01:52 squirrelpascals: oh yeah something i noticed when playing
01:53 squirrelpascals: 00:46:692 (8,1) - youre going to want to space this slider a little mroe since it plays like a 1/2
01:53 squirrelpascals: or actually
01:53 squirrelpascals: nvm its fine
01:53 squirrelpascals: since its consistently done throughout the map
01:54 FoxyGrandpa: i just made it a circle
01:54 squirrelpascals: no dont i like it :<
01:54 squirrelpascals: 00:53:017 (2) - ctrl+g
01:54 FoxyGrandpa: done
01:55 squirrelpascals: 01:01:873 (4,5,6,7,1) - ctrl+s expand
01:55 squirrelpascals: the objects get close and it would be nicer if spaced more
01:55 squirrelpascals: 01:03:680 (4,1) - the tails arent overlap liek you probably intended
01:56 FoxyGrandpa: OMG
01:56 FoxyGrandpa: FUCK
01:56 squirrelpascals: 01:04:945 (2,3,4,1) - 234 isnt perfectly symmetrical, 1 is badly placed. space it more
01:56 squirrelpascals: what
01:56 FoxyGrandpa: EVERYTIME I FIX THAT IT DOESNT WORK
01:56 squirrelpascals: move it one pixel tot he right for the best possible solution
01:57 squirrelpascals: 01:09:644 (1,2,3,4) - this is fine but space it evenly
01:57 FoxyGrandpa: oka
01:57 FoxyGrandpa: i read the 2 as a 3
01:58 FoxyGrandpa: im actually retarded
01:58 squirrelpascals: 01:13:077 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - is cool but 01:12:716 (1) - and 01:14:342 (1) - heavily interfere with it. just move them entirley from the pattern to be safest
01:58 squirrelpascals: lol
01:58 squirrelpascals: tell me when youre done so we can talk out the final jumps
01:59 FoxyGrandpa: sounds good
02:01 FoxyGrandpa: i fixed everything but im gonna get some food real quick
02:01 FoxyGrandpa: brb
02:01 FoxyGrandpa: lol
02:01 squirrelpascals: ok
02:08 squirrelpascals: reafs
02:08 FoxyGrandpa: OKAY
02:08 FoxyGrandpa: fuck
02:08 FoxyGrandpa: theres like some bug in my kitcahen'
02:08 squirrelpascals: adsjf
02:08 squirrelpascals: lol
02:09 squirrelpascals: i need to slep
02:09 FoxyGrandpa: but idfk where
02:10 FoxyGrandpa: mod my jump section
02:10 FoxyGrandpa: then sleep
02:10 FoxyGrandpa: w
02:10 squirrelpascals: fadjh
02:10 squirrelpascals: fine
02:10 squirrelpascals: 01:15:811 - 
02:10 squirrelpascals: so i think i see the problem
02:11 squirrelpascals: you make good patterns but you dont connect them well enough
02:11 FoxyGrandpa: mmm
02:11 FoxyGrandpa: yea
02:11 squirrelpascals: 01:15:810 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 
02:11 squirrelpascals: both combos are good, but the jump from 4 to 1 is very awkward and lacking
02:12 squirrelpascals: you could just probably move 4 
02:12 squirrelpascals: 01:17:798 (4,1) - same here
02:12 squirrelpascals: 01:18:340 (3,4,1,2) -  unless the square is on puropse it plays weirdly
02:13 FoxyGrandpa: yea i just noticed that too
02:13 squirrelpascals: since squared are a strange shape they only play well if they were made on puropse
02:13 squirrelpascals: so if thats the case 01:18:702 (1,2) - ctrl+g
02:13 FoxyGrandpa: did that and rotated a bit
02:14 squirrelpascals: 01:19:244 (4,1) - bad transition and 01:18:883 (2,4,2) - this cluster. just redo that green pattern i guess
02:14 squirrelpascals: the pattern itself is fine. its just the placement
02:14 squirrelpascals: 01:21:594 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - better, but 01:21:232 (5,1,1) - space
02:15 squirrelpascals: 01:24:304 (4,1) - transition
02:15 squirrelpascals: okay thats it
02:15 squirrelpascals: but notice how i say the work transition a lot
02:15 FoxyGrandpa: yea
02:15 FoxyGrandpa: thats a problem i have a lot
02:16 squirrelpascals: that means you're making jumps wrong entirley
02:16 FoxyGrandpa: like every week i get sorta better at mapping and structure
02:16 FoxyGrandpa: so a lot of these have been from older versions of the map that i havent changed
02:17 squirrelpascals: instead of making sections of a jump sections and putting them together, just map the jumps all at once, and think about shapes, etc. at the same time
02:17 squirrelpascals:  01:23:039 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - patterns like this look well organized becuase their spacing is harmonious
02:17 squirrelpascals: you can say that just based off the hl too
02:18 squirrelpascals: but yeah
02:18 squirrelpascals: any questinos?
02:18 FoxyGrandpa: nope, i fixed just about everything
02:18 FoxyGrandpa: helped a lot \o/ thanks squirrel
02:19 squirrelpascals: np
02:19 squirrelpascals: call me
02:19 FoxyGrandpa: post in the thread
02:19 FoxyGrandpa: cause meaningless kudos
02:20 squirrelpascals: k

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Ultima Fox 2016-10-23T21:44:19+00:00

squirrelpascals wrote:
meaningless kudoos

Foxy Grandpa

709 posts

Joined January 2015

Topic Starter

Foxy Grandpa 2016-10-23T21:45:58+00:00

squirrelpascals wrote:
boop

Ultima Fox

621 posts

Joined August 2013

Ultima Fox 2016-10-25T01:04:50+00:00

hell to the yeahj

memes

20:27 FoxyGrandpa: .
20:27 Ultima Fox: is your body ready for this
20:27 FoxyGrandpa: no
20:27 Ultima Fox: do you wantme to do it another time
20:27 FoxyGrandpa: no
20:27 FoxyGrandpa: im ready
20:27 Ultima Fox: 00:05:306 (2) - 
20:27 Ultima Fox: ctrl g that shit
20:28 FoxyGrandpa: but muh symmetry
20:28 Ultima Fox: .
20:28 FoxyGrandpa: i fixed it
20:28 Ultima Fox: lol
20:28 FoxyGrandpa: and ctrl + gd 00:06:571 (2) -
20:29 Ultima Fox: oo savage
20:29 FoxyGrandpa: yea boi
20:29 Ultima Fox: 00:16:511 (1,2) - this anti jump is awkward
20:29 Ultima Fox: maybe move 2 up
20:30 FoxyGrandpa: hmm
20:30 FoxyGrandpa: im trying to fix that in a way to make it symmetrical
20:30 FoxyGrandpa: because i like the pattern going along with the lyrics
20:30 Ultima Fox: up
20:31 FoxyGrandpa: if i move it up then the follow points look weird ):
20:31 Ultima Fox: hmm
20:32 Ultima Fox: stack with 4?
20:32 FoxyGrandpa: yea that works
20:33 Ultima Fox: 00:24:463 (2,3,4,5) - uh
20:33 Ultima Fox: i mean
20:33 Ultima Fox: its fine 
20:33 Ultima Fox: but like
20:33 Ultima Fox: its kinda ugly
20:33 Ultima Fox: nvm
20:33 FoxyGrandpa: it's expressing the buildup in the violin
20:33 FoxyGrandpa: ill make it symmetrical
20:33 Ultima Fox: .
20:34 Ultima Fox: 00:26:089 (4,5,1) - Did you watch pishis video on flow and angles
20:34 Ultima Fox: because that angle seems really wide
20:35 FoxyGrandpa: i changed that
20:35 Ultima Fox: o shit
20:35 Ultima Fox: well fuck me then
20:35 FoxyGrandpa: https://puu.sh/rUxCL/3009f4f268.png
20:35 Ultima Fox: huh
20:36 Ultima Fox: 00:27:897 (3,1) - 
20:36 Ultima Fox: http://puu.sh/rUxHW/9e37fde6be.jpg
20:36 Ultima Fox: maybe
20:37 FoxyGrandpa: ye
20:37 Ultima Fox: youll have to adjust the green 3 too
20:38 Ultima Fox: 00:32:415 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - whyantijumpsliterallymakemewanttodiewhatwereyouthinking
20:38 FoxyGrandpa: 00:28:620 (3) -
20:38 FoxyGrandpa: this one
20:38 Ultima Fox: yes
20:38 FoxyGrandpa: i like the way it plays for the triangles
20:39 Ultima Fox: w/e
20:39 Ultima Fox: 00:37:294 (2,3,4,5) - no
20:39 FoxyGrandpa: if someone else brings it up ill change it tho
20:40 FoxyGrandpa: por que
20:41 Ultima Fox: http://puu.sh/rUxV8/0508e41140.jpg
20:41 Ultima Fox: for the sake of my sanity
20:42 FoxyGrandpa: ok
20:42 FoxyGrandpa: done
20:42 FoxyGrandpa: mom
20:43 Ultima Fox: 00:40:186 (3,4,5) - at least make this look a little better
20:45 FoxyGrandpa: https://puu.sh/rUy8l/986372a291.png
20:45 FoxyGrandpa: S Y M M E T R Y
20:46 Ultima Fox: wtrf
20:47 Ultima Fox: 00:50:668 (5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 
20:47 Ultima Fox: try not to have strong sounds/downbeats on sliderends
20:48 FoxyGrandpa: where exactly?
20:48 FoxyGrandpa: i had all the sliders hit on the start of the vocals
20:48 Ultima Fox: i guess
20:48 FoxyGrandpa: like
20:49 FoxyGrandpa: the timing line is kinda fucked with the chorus
20:49 Ultima Fox: at least make a triangle or smth 00:50:306 (3,4,5) - 
20:49 Ultima Fox: and yehaj
20:49 FoxyGrandpa: okay i changed that
20:50 Ultima Fox: 00:59:342 (4,5,1) - pls no linear jumps
20:50 FoxyGrandpa: but
20:50 FoxyGrandpa: 00:59:704 (1,2,3,4) -
20:50 Ultima Fox: wah
20:50 Ultima Fox: t
20:51 Ultima Fox: wait
20:51 FoxyGrandpa: idkkk
20:51 FoxyGrandpa: i like it but ill fix it somehow
20:51 Ultima Fox: what was i just looking at
20:51 Ultima Fox: i couldve sworn i was just triggered
20:51 FoxyGrandpa: 00:58:981 (2,3,4,5,1) -
20:51 Ultima Fox: oh yehajfgf
20:51 Ultima Fox: 451
20:51 Ultima Fox: it literally in a straight line
20:52 Ultima Fox: maybe rotate 2345 a little bit
20:52 Ultima Fox: so that even 123 can also be a better angle
20:52 Ultima Fox: and itll fix all the worlds problems
20:52 FoxyGrandpa: will it fix my crippling depression
20:53 Ultima Fox: hell to the yea
20:53 Ultima Fox: h
20:53 Ultima Fox: 01:05:306 (4,1) - spare me
20:53 FoxyGrandpa: hell yea
20:53 FoxyGrandpa: waht
20:54 Ultima Fox: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6404265 change to this]
20:54 Ultima Fox: itll be more comfortable
20:54 Ultima Fox: probably
20:55 FoxyGrandpa: i ctrl gd 3 and 4
20:55 Ultima Fox: fix the hitsound while your at it
20:55 Ultima Fox: if you ctrl gd
20:56 FoxyGrandpa: way ahead of u
20:56 Ultima Fox: 01:15:810 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - fycho is that you
20:56 FoxyGrandpa: yea
20:56 Ultima Fox: dad?
20:56 FoxyGrandpa: yea
20:57 Ultima Fox: 01:17:617 (3,4,1) - ..
20:57 Ultima Fox: im trying to find a way to fix it
20:57 Ultima Fox: lol
20:58 FoxyGrandpa: same
20:59 Ultima Fox: what you can do
20:59 Ultima Fox: is move 1 to 67,292
20:59 Ultima Fox: 2 to 176,56
20:59 FoxyGrandpa: i did this
20:59 FoxyGrandpa: one sec
20:59 Ultima Fox: 3 to 168,256
20:59 FoxyGrandpa: https://puu.sh/rUyUp/48770685a6.png
20:59 Ultima Fox: and 4 to 72,108
20:59 FoxyGrandpa: ill try that tho
21:02 FoxyGrandpa: yea
21:02 FoxyGrandpa: ill go with that
21:02 Ultima Fox: i think thats it
21:02 FoxyGrandpa: helly ea
21:02 Ultima Fox: !savelog
21:02 Ultima Fox: i 
21:02 Ultima Fox: tried
21:02 FoxyGrandpa: post in thread
21:02 FoxyGrandpa: so i can kudose

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