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Jabba

Joined February 2015

Jabba 2016-10-15T22:21:26+00:00

hey, m4m

easy
00:03:851 (2,1) - this blanket looks a bit off
00:11:432 (2,3) - so does this
00:17:967 (1) - I'd move this a bit higher for the better flow
00:22:719 (1) - curving it down like this would work much better imo
00:43:511 (4) - not a fan of such patterns but I guess it's acceptable since 00:44:402 - is emphasized much more than 00:44:105 -
01:14:996 (3,1,2) - uhh is it just me or it's broken a bit
01:28:066 (1) - wouldn't it be more logical to put the first anchor point at 01:28:511 - when the music has a strong beat? smth like this (or you can do the same thing and put the anchor point at 01:28:660 - depends on what you want to emphasize more, I prefer the former)
nice

normal
OD4 to fit the spread better (2-4-6)
00:09:798 - y u no map this
00:10:689 (1) - I'd curve this a bit more for teh flow
00:23:313 (2,3) - uuhhhh something like this looks much better IMO
00:24:947 (1,2,3,4,5) - this follows the music perfectly but I feel like it's more dense than the rest of this part which is not really that good but w/e
00:36:977 (1,2) - same as 00:23:313 (2,3) -
00:47:670 (3) - doesn't really fit in there, an 1/1 slider starting at 00:47:521 - would be better cause you won't miss a vocal and at the same time would have an object at 00:47:818 - which is a drum hit
00:49:897 (3,4) - kinda same as above, (4) being an 1/2 slider sounds really meh (and 00:50:343 - is stronger than 00:50:194 - so having it as a sliderend when there's a possibility to not do that doesn't help) so I'd suggest changing (3) to a 1/1 slider and putting a circle at 00:50:343 -
01:09:650 (2,3) - mentioned this already
01:10:838 (4) - this sounds out of place yet again, the only place where such a slider could fit in this part is 01:10:392 - but you already mapped it. smth like this is better
01:14:254 (2,3) - same as 00:49:897 (3,4) -
01:28:066 (1,2) - idk I'd do something like this instead

hard
00:00:614 (1,2,3) - the distance between those three objects looks uneven, mind fixing that?
00:10:392 (3,2) - I'd make those two parallel, looks better imo
00:19:303 (4) - moving this a bit to the right would help the flow
00:24:650 (3,4) - those aren't making a perfect triangle with 00:23:462 (2) - , fix plx
00:31:779 (6,7,8,9) - rip stacks idk move the stack a bit further from (6) cause this looks sad
00:37:868 (3,4,5,1,2) - same
00:39:650 (2,3,4) - uneven distance yet again
00:42:323 (3,1) - those two should blanket each other pls
01:06:383 (3,4,5,1) - ^^^
01:11:878 (2,3) - the transition between those two is weird somehow, idk maybe it's because of the blanket
01:14:699 (3,4,5,1) - y'know
fun diff

lgv
00:01:902 (4) - any reason for a jump this big? the sound on this one is pretty much weak
00:07:125 (4) - ^
00:08:313 (4) - you got the idea
00:11:284 (3) - why is it a slider? you basically ignore 00:11:432 - with this and if you want to follow that noise in the background (I think you understand what I mean) 00:11:432 is still stronger
00:16:185 (3,4,5) - y u make the distance between those equal? cause they're not similar lol
00:17:076 (2,3) - I get the idea behind those but can you make (2) a bit more spaced from (1)? cause having such low spacing on a strong beat is literally triggering me
00:23:462 (2,3) - ok I don't get this, why do you space (2) more than (3)? cause (3) is stronger as it's a clap and it also has a new vocal line on it. this applies to the whole section - I have no idea why would you do that
00:26:284 (1) - mind curving it a bit more and making (2) the same so it'd flow nicer?
00:28:363 (4) - again, why is it spaced the same as (2) and (3)?
00:32:967 (3) - ok this one's spacing can be justified as 'it's having a new vocal line' but anyway 3x DS is an overkill
00:36:680 (3) - ctrl-g this. would help the flow a bit, increase the emphasis on this object and reduce the jump between this and (1) a bit - now it's a bit too much
00:39:798 (2) - uuuuhhhh why, this has almost no sound at all
00:39:947 (3) - and then you do 1.2x DS on both a vocal line and a beat.
00:42:175 (2) - ^^
00:44:848 (2) - you got the idea, mentioned this already
00:49:600 (2) - and for some reason you don't use that gigantic DS here, this is much better!
00:53:462 (7) - please no
00:58:957 (1,2,3) - idk this is fine but I'd rather make 2-3-4 a triangle since they're all vocals
01:00:442 (2,3) - aaand those two could use bigger DS since they're more emphasized in the music
01:05:491 (5) - y u no NC?
01:05:788 (7) - y u the same spacing pls
01:10:838 (4) - this has almost no sound but you still space it
01:11:358 (6,1) - this transition looks bad but I'll let it pass lol
01:11:729 (2) - this could use a bit more spacing
01:13:066 (1) - same, no idea why didn't you space it more
01:13:511 (2) - uh. IMO this vocal is much stronger than 01:13:660 (3) - and thus should have more spacing
01:14:699 (5) - y'know

beom
00:02:800 (5,6,7,8) - I get this kind of pattern but why'd you do that if you always space them in groups of 4 or 2?
00:11:432 (3,4,5) - uh I already mentioned this in the previous diff. first of all, why won't you space (3)? and then, why do you have the same spacing between those? I can get it if it was a hard diff or lower, where having the same DS is pretty much fine, but you're mapping an insane and have the same DS between different beats. that's no good
00:12:472 (2,3,4,5) - idk if you're following that noise in the background, why won't you space (2) out cause it has the same sound and (5) doesn't; if you're following the beats and decide to not space (2) that much, why does (5) have such low spacing?
00:16:630 (4,1) - I don't get those, (1) is clearly overmapped and the NCs are switched ((4) is much stronger than (1) and you've NCd such things correctly before)
00:27:472 (1) - I remember how you told me in your mod for my Setsuna that I can create good slidershapes using only basic sliders and then you use those by yourself. хDDD oh and yes the flow between this one and (2) is meh, mind changing it somehow?
00:32:521 (3) - ok I like big spacing on claps but this is a bit overkill
00:36:680 (3) - using two circles instead of a slider would put more emphasis on vocals, it'd fit better I think
00:37:571 (3) - rotating it like that would improve the flow
00:38:016 (4,1) - uuuuhh make this one bigger please! (1) and (2) are both strong notes but for some reason (1) has such low spacing
00:41:729 (1,3) - those two are not parallel enough, fix pls
00:42:769 (1,2) - uhhhh
00:46:927 (2,3) - I'd rotate those two to improve the flow but it's fine already I guess
00:47:224 (4,5,6) - meh, same spacing :< (5) and (6) could use higher spacing cause they're vocals y'know
00:47:521 (6,1) - swap NCs
00:50:343 (3) - nice pattern y'got there but this particular note needs more emphasis :>
00:52:719 (4) - pretty much same
01:07:125 (2,3,4,5) - you've been following the vocals until now (or at least I suppose you've been cause that's the most logical explanation for your object placement) and then you're overmapping everything. in the next part, which is basically the same, you go back to the vocals.
01:10:838 (4) - I've mentioned this in the previous diff that this object shouldn't have such high spacing cause it's almost silent

david
00:01:902 (5) - y u do this, it's not a strong beat nor a strong vocal so putting a 2.5x DS jump there when you've used 1.2x before is just meh
00:04:525 (5) - and if we're talking about changing the spacing, e.g. this one can be spaced a bit more, but w/e - it's fine as it is
00:19:303 (1,2,3,4,5) - 'o' is for 'overmapping', plsno
00:23:610 (5) - y u no space this, it's both a clap and a new vocal line
00:29:551 (4,5,6,7,1) - ^^ meh
00:55:986 (1,2,3) - for this whole part - why won't you map this? it's a buildup, one of the strongest parts of the song and you just spam 1/1 sliders. at least throw in some circles!
01:04:006 (5,6) - I don't really think that (6) deserves higher spacing than (5) since (5) is a stronger vocal
01:08:759 (7) - space this more pls, both a strong vocal and a clap
01:09:947 (5) - ^
01:10:838 (4) - mentioned it two times already, why is it spaced like that if it's almost silent?
01:13:363 (4) - moving it to smth like 478 202 would both improve the flow a bit and emphasize (4) and (5) more
01:18:561 (1) - I'd end this a bit earlier and put a circle on 01:20:937 -
01:27:175 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - PLEASE NO. this is hella overmapped, at least use sliders and not circles there, cause right now it's literally mapped to nothing
nice diff overall

karia
I'd bump the OD to smth like 8.5, 8.2 feels a bit low for a 5.6* map
00:02:264 - I can understand why don't you map 00:05:015 - but this has a clear sound
00:15:887 (2,3) - this is actually misleading cause you only used such things for 3/4 + circle type of patterns before, spacing (3) out would fix this
00:56:432 (3) - this one needs more spacing huh, it's a strong beat
00:56:581 (4,5,6) - don't use this kind of a flow plx, cause that's the only place in this section where you do that and it doesn't really fit. also I'd suggest to split (6,7) using the same reasoning
01:07:274 (3) - splitting this into two circles is better IMO, it's not really the same as (1) and (2) so I don't see much reason for it to be a slider but I get your idea
01:20:343 (5,6,7,8) - meh, boring stack. you can do smth better than this! even back-and-forths would fit more
01:21:977 - uh why didn't you map this? it's a strong beat and not mapping it kinda ruins the NC structure cause the new section starts here
nice! enjoyed this one

lasse
applies to the whole diff: ugh, those sliders. I know that you use those in literally every map but I still don't get it - why'd you use such sliders in tv size jump maps LOL
OD 8.2 is kinda low for a 5.8* map
00:01:718 (4,5) - I can see the reasoning behind this one but it'd be much more logical to map 00:02:264 - then which you didn't (though you did it on 00:03:335 (4,1) - )
00:06:086 (1,2,3,4) - I have no idea why those have decreasing spacing tbh, mind explaining it? cause as for me it'd be better to keep increasing the DS
00:08:462 (7) - spacing this out would be a good idea cause a new section starts here. otherwise it's pretty much hard to read
00:28:066 (4,5) - those are the same yet you have much bigger distance between 4 and 5 rather than 3 and 4, fix pls
01:04:006 (5,6) - why is (6) spaced more? (5) is both a strong beat and a strong vocal and (6) is just a strong vocal
01:07:274 (3) - same as karia's diff, I think that splitting those into two would be better cause this slider differs from the previous two
01:13:511 (5,6) - ^^
01:16:482 (1) - when testplaying this was pretty much hard to hit cause the most convenient way to go after (2) would be in the direction of 01:16:630 (2,3,4) - and having (1) covered by a slider doesn't help at all. so I'd do something like this instead
01:20:046 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - PLEASE NO I'M TRIGGERED this is like the most retarded thing you could ever do in that place. you probably want to do this cause all of those notes are somehow similar so they should form some kind of a polygon shape - nope, doesn't work. first of all, it plays bad, second, they're not that similar, something like back-and-forth motion like you did before the kiai would be much better.
01:28:066 (1,2,3,4,1) - ok I'm triggered again. first of all, 1-2-3-4 being a square doesn't make any sense for me - if in the previous case I could've said that they're somehow similar to each other, those four beats are completely different - there's zero reason to arrange them like that. then, this 1/2 slider - using it is perfectly fine cause 01:28:808 - is somehow weaker than the other beats, but why the low SV? completely unsightreadable, looks like 1/4 or even 1/8. also what is this hitsound LOL

perfect world
OD 8.5 is sure too low, 9 or even smth like 9.2 would work better
00:28:660 (1,2,3) - why the low spacing? those three beats are more emphasized in the music than the previous three
01:01:482 (1,2) - this plays weird as hell cause you have to go back to where (2) was and I personally was expecting (1) to be under (3)
01:10:838 (4) - mentioned this, idk, three times - there's no reason to space this one that much cause it's almost silent
neat diff, can't find much there or maybe i'm just tired already orz

good luck~

_Meep_

1,707 posts

Joined April 2014

_Meep_ 2016-10-15T23:45:52+00:00

m4m

ze mods by ze meep

perfectooo worldo
01:20:343 (6,10) - NC either of these to prevent the combo from rising too high
01:21:086 - Why not add a note here like how you did in 01:22:274 (2) - ? You could always simulate another drum sound,either that or you just delete 01:22:274 (2) - to make it the same
01:25:392 (7) - I feel like this note isn't needed,since the difficulty contains alot of parts,and that 01:25:392 - you cant hear anything without the hitsound
Karia's extraa
00:50:640 (5) - NC?
LGV's Insane
01:15:442 (1) - remove NC
01:15:887 (2) - NC

Can't find anything else,sorry. Hope this helps

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-10-16T08:46:15+00:00

lami: fixed first thing
didn't apply second cause I follow vocals and there is no vocal where your suggestion would place a circle

MadHypnofrog

MadHypnofrog wrote:
lasse
applies to the whole diff: ugh, those sliders. I know that you use those in literally every map but I still don't get it - why'd you use such sliders in tv size jump maps LOL tv size jump map is a genre? me too thanks
OD 8.2 is kinda low for a 5.8* map adjusted according to top diff, anything >=8 is fine for extra so idc
00:01:718 (4,5) - I can see the reasoning behind this one but it'd be much more logical to map 00:02:264 - then which you didn't (though you did it on 00:03:335 (4,1) - ) sound yes, but not a detrimental part of the main melody I'm following here
00:06:086 (1,2,3,4) - I have no idea why those have decreasing spacing tbh, mind explaining it? cause as for me it'd be better to keep increasing the DS 00:05:933 (7,1) - are supposed to stand out most here which is currently the case, other placement is mainly visuals/doesnt matter much
00:08:462 (7) - spacing this out would be a good idea cause a new section starts here. otherwise it's pretty much hard to read what. musically it still belongs to the pattern before, song still repeats the same thing, change in music is on 00:08:610 (1) -
00:28:066 (4,5) - those are the same yet you have much bigger distance between 4 and 5 rather than 3 and 4, fix pls overall placement/pattern matters much more for how players perceive this than a 10% spacing difference
01:04:006 (5,6) - why is (6) spaced more? (5) is both a strong beat and a strong vocal and (6) is just a strong vocal focused too much on single beats/objects. 01:03:858 (4,5,6,1) - increasing intensity pattern/buildin up pressure as I see vocal intensity as risisng over throughout this pattern
01:07:274 (3) - same as karia's diff, I think that splitting those into two would be better cause this slider differs from the previous two 01:06:680 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - is all focusing vocals, breaking that here doesnt make sense
01:13:511 (5,6) - ^^ vocals
01:16:482 (1) - when testplaying this was pretty much hard to hit cause the most convenient way to go after (2) would be in the direction of 01:16:630 (2,3,4) - and having (1) covered by a slider doesn't help at all. so I'd do something like this instead
it's pretty much where you would expect it if you paid attention to the movement on 01:14:996 (1,1,1,1,2) -
01:20:046 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - PLEASE NO I'M TRIGGERED this is like the most retarded thing you could ever do in that place. you probably want to do this cause all of those notes are somehow similar so they should form some kind of a polygon shape - nope, doesn't work. first of all, it plays bad, second, they're not that similar, something like back-and-forth motion like you did before the kiai would be much better. focusing the held vocal during this, so none of the objects except the start on 01:19:600 (1) - is supposed to stand out
01:28:066 (1,2,3,4,1) - ok I'm triggered again. first of all, 1-2-3-4 being a square doesn't make any sense for me - if in the previous case I could've said that they're somehow similar to each other, those four beats are completely different - there's zero reason to arrange them like that. then, this 1/2 slider - using music clearly puts these in a group of 4/follow the synth perfectly fine + a fun pattern it is perfectly fine cause 01:28:808 - is somehow weaker than the other beats, but why the low SV? completely unsightreadable, looks like 1/4 or even 1/8. cause I found it very fitting for this type of sound. if you don't mistime the head (which is not related to length/sv you won't break here anyways due to leniency, also even if you did you would miss like 3 combo for an fc and get no miss so whatever also what is this hitsound LOL

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lolia

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lolia 2016-10-16T12:37:03+00:00

MadHypnofrog wrote:
karia
I'd bump the OD to smth like 8.5, 8.2 feels a bit low for a 5.6* map I will fix this if ODs of the higher diffs are increased
00:02:264 - I can understand why don't you map 00:05:015 - but this has a clear sound idk, I just followed the music
00:15:887 (2,3) - this is actually misleading cause you only used such things for 3/4 + circle type of patterns before, spacing (3) out would fix this 1/2 stack can be read with a approachcircle :3
01:07:274 (3) - splitting this into two circles is better IMO, it's not really the same as (1) and (2) so I don't see much reason for it to be a slider but I get your idea Surely, the instrument sound is not same, but these three sliders are holding vocal :3
01:20:343 (5,6,7,8) - meh, boring stack. you can do smth better than this! even back-and-forths would fit more For now, stack is best to me
01:21:977 - uh why didn't you map this? it's a strong beat and not mapping it kinda ruins the NC structure cause the new section starts here This is for consistent rhyrhm
nice! enjoyed this one

@_Meep_ : It doesn't need NC :p

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Thanks for moddings!

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lit120

3,251 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2016-10-16T13:15:13+00:00

_Meep_ wrote:
m4m
ze mods by ze meep
perfectooo worldo
01:20:343 (6,10) - NC either of these to prevent the combo from rising too high no
01:21:086 - Why not add a note here like how you did in 01:22:274 (2) - ? You could always simulate another drum sound,either that or you just delete 01:22:274 (2) - to make it the same nah
01:25:392 (7) - I feel like this note isn't needed,since the difficulty contains alot of parts,and that 01:25:392 - you cant hear anything without the hitsound hue

Can't find anything else,sorry. Hope this helps

MadHypnofrog wrote:
hey, m4m

easy
00:03:851 (2,1) - this blanket looks a bit off k
00:11:432 (2,3) - so does this meh
00:17:967 (1) - I'd move this a bit higher for the better flow flow's ok here
00:22:719 (1) - curving it down like this would work much better imo this one's ok
00:43:511 (4) - not a fan of such patterns but I guess it's acceptable since 00:44:402 - is emphasized much more than 00:44:105 - wat
01:14:996 (3,1,2) - uhh is it just me or it's broken a bit fixed 01:14:996 (3) -
01:28:066 (1) - wouldn't it be more logical to put the first anchor point at 01:28:511 - when the music has a strong beat? smth like this (or you can do the same thing and put the anchor point at 01:28:660 - depends on what you want to emphasize more, I prefer the former) keep
nice

normal
OD4 to fit the spread better (2-4-6) no
00:09:798 - y u no map this don't want to add a note there, but i had to map the drums there only
00:10:689 (1) - I'd curve this a bit more for teh flow nah
00:23:313 (2,3) - uuhhhh something like this looks much better IMO changed 00:23:313 (2) - angle
00:24:947 (1,2,3,4,5) - this follows the music perfectly but I feel like it's more dense than the rest of this part which is not really that good but w/e not a big deal here
00:36:977 (1,2) - same as 00:23:313 (2,3) - it's ok
00:47:670 (3) - doesn't really fit in there, an 1/1 slider starting at 00:47:521 - would be better cause you won't miss a vocal and at the same time would have an object at 00:47:818 - which is a drum hit keep
00:49:897 (3,4) - kinda same as above, (4) being an 1/2 slider sounds really meh (and 00:50:343 - is stronger than 00:50:194 - so having it as a sliderend when there's a possibility to not do that doesn't help) so I'd suggest changing (3) to a 1/1 slider and putting a circle at 00:50:343 - doesn't have to play emphasizing stuff here
01:09:650 (2,3) - mentioned this already same answer
01:10:838 (4) - this sounds out of place yet again, the only place where such a slider could fit in this part is 01:10:392 - but you already mapped it. smth like this is better why would u think that it is out of place, even that the note is present there?
01:14:254 (2,3) - same as 00:49:897 (3,4) - same answer
01:28:066 (1,2) - idk I'd do something like this instead keep

hard
00:00:614 (1,2,3) - the distance between those three objects looks uneven, mind fixing that? have u learned sth about "estimation" about the spacing stuff?
00:10:392 (3,2) - I'd make those two parallel, looks better imo i'd rather not
00:19:303 (4) - moving this a bit to the right would help the flow it's flowable enough
00:24:650 (3,4) - those aren't making a perfect triangle with 00:23:462 (2) - , fix plx did it
00:31:779 (6,7,8,9) - rip stacks idk move the stack a bit further from (6) cause this looks sad .-.
00:37:868 (3,4,5,1,2) - same ^
00:39:650 (2,3,4) - uneven distance yet again same answer
00:42:323 (3,1) - those two should blanket each other pls did it
01:06:383 (3,4,5,1) - ^^^ same answer
01:11:878 (2,3) - the transition between those two is weird somehow, idk maybe it's because of the blanket looks ok
01:14:699 (3,4,5,1) - y'know i know
fun diff

perfect world
OD 8.5 is sure too low, 9 or even smth like 9.2 would work better 9 will do
00:28:660 (1,2,3) - why the low spacing? those three beats are more emphasized in the music than the previous three well this looks ok for me, since the vocal is getting softer and the piano pitch is rly that low
01:01:482 (1,2) - this plays weird as hell cause you have to go back to where (2) was and I personally was expecting (1) to be under (3) readable enough
01:10:838 (4) - mentioned this, idk, three times - there's no reason to space this one that much cause it's almost silent it's fine
neat diff, can't find much there or maybe i'm just tired already orz

good luck~

thx for mod!

updated karia's and lasse's

Rizia

3,114 posts

Joined January 2012

Rizia 2016-10-24T13:39:12+00:00

[Normal]

01:03:115 (4) - it feel empty cuz your normal have many 1/2 and it suddenly have a long slider especially in kiai
SPOILER
01:11:878 (2) - same

[Beom's Extra]

missing video

[DavidEd's Extra]

00:04:862 (1,2,3,4) - isnt the slider speed should be low to high?
00:12:026 (1) - suggest to ctrl+g to get smooth flow with 00:11:729 (5) - and 00:12:323 (2) -
00:29:625 (5,6,7) - it kinda overlap since the part sounds should be a slow part and there are no drum sounds to support 1/4 from the background

[Perfect World]

00:25:986 (4) - how about change to a circle here, for vocal,
SPOILER

that's all
not bad overall

lit120

3,251 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2016-10-24T14:22:15+00:00

Rizia wrote:
[Normal]
01:03:115 (4) - it feel empty cuz your normal have many 1/2 and it suddenly have a long slider especially in kiai woopsy daisy
SPOILER
01:11:878 (2) - same ^
[Beom's Extra]
missing video did it for him
[Perfect World]
00:25:986 (4) - how about change to a circle here, for vocal, wanna keep this one though
SPOILER
that's all
not bad overall

thx riziachankun xd

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Dilectus 2016-10-24T14:57:41+00:00

fixed most of the things mentioned

fixes

osu file format v14

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Title:Setsuna no Kajitsu
TitleUnicode:刹那の果実
Artist:Maon Kurosaki
ArtistUnicode:黒崎真音
Creator:lit120
Version:DavidEd's Extra
Source:グリザイアの楽園 - LE EDEN DE LA GRISAIA -
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lit120

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Topic Starter

lit120 2016-10-24T15:07:38+00:00

updated david's

LGV894

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Joined May 2013

LGV894 2016-10-29T10:34:10+00:00

MadHypnofrog wrote:
hey, m4m
lgv
00:01:902 (4) - any reason for a jump this big? the sound on this one is pretty much weak Not really that big considering that it came from a slider end. But fine, it's fixed due to inconsistency.
00:07:125 (4) - ^ hm
00:08:313 (4) - you got the idea k fine, reverted changes. It'd just make everything less consistent.
00:11:284 (3) - why is it a slider? you basically ignore 00:11:432 - with this and if you want to follow that noise in the background (I think you understand what I mean) 00:11:432 is still stronger because ~difficulty.
00:16:185 (3,4,5) - y u make the distance between those equal? cause they're not similar lol Because ~difficulty. If you can suggest a replacement that would still look aesthetically decent, then I'll change it.
00:17:076 (2,3) - I get the idea behind those but can you make (2) a bit more spaced from (1)? cause having such low spacing on a strong beat is literally triggering me Please suggest a pattern. I chose to emphasize those other instruments other than the drums at those points. Not sure why everyone should just base mapping according to drum beats and drum everything...
00:23:462 (2,3) - ok I don't get this, why do you space (2) more than (3)? cause (3) is stronger as it's a clap and it also has a new vocal line on it. this applies to the whole section - I have no idea why would you do that Because slider ends aren't necessarily as intense as actual hitcircles. I chose to space it like that because (1) - the new combo, needed more emphasis.
00:26:284 (1) - mind curving it a bit more and making (2) the same so it'd flow nicer? I don't understand how that would make it flow 'nicer.'
00:28:363 (4) - again, why is it spaced the same as (2) and (3)? bcs slider end mapping. Don't you just notice how jump streams are more difficult than high DS 1/4 sliders? See One For All, All For One.
00:32:967 (3) - ok this one's spacing can be justified as 'it's having a new vocal line' but anyway 3x DS is an overkill Originated from slider end.
00:36:680 (3) - ctrl-g this. would help the flow a bit, increase the emphasis on this object and reduce the jump between this and (1) a bit - now it's a bit too much That would imply that it is also disconnected to (2). I actually mapped it that way so that it is perceived as it is disconnected from (1)
00:39:798 (2) - uuuuhhhh why, this has almost no sound at all So how should I map it?
00:39:947 (3) - and then you do 1.2x DS on both a vocal line and a beat.
00:42:175 (2) - ^^ *decides to not touch it bcs suggestions?
00:44:848 (2) - you got the idea, mentioned this already Slider end
00:49:600 (2) - and for some reason you don't use that gigantic DS here, this is much better! Because if I mapped it all as high ds hit circles, then this would be 5 stars
00:53:462 (7) - please no Works great for circling the flow considering that next object is also high DS.
00:58:957 (1,2,3) - idk this is fine but I'd rather make 2-3-4 a triangle since they're all vocals ? What?
01:00:442 (2,3) - aaand those two could use bigger DS since they're more emphasized in the music Would be overkill once the player moves on to next patterns. Bcs accumulated difficulty. Ever tried playing it?
01:05:491 (5) - y u no NC? Whoops
01:05:788 (7) - y u the same spacing pls Even high spacing felt the same. Those are just pseudo editor numbers, actually. I chose to map by feel rather than numbers on the editor.
01:10:838 (4) - this has almost no sound but you still space it Map (2) (3) (4) as an equilateral triangle and the flow goes way off.
01:11:358 (6,1) - this transition looks bad but I'll let it pass lol lol ikr still couldn't find a way to remap that or smth
01:11:729 (2) - this could use a bit more spacing Tried a fix
01:13:066 (1) - same, no idea why didn't you space it more Uh, you once told me to space the snare more than the finish so idk w/ u doe.
01:13:511 (2) - uh. IMO this vocal is much stronger than 01:13:660 (3) - and thus should have more spacing I'm still spectical about the emphasis of the DS after slider ends... I emphasized the triangle more for some reason. I can't really find a way to space that more without making it uncomfortable to play.
01:14:699 (5) - y'know I don't know.

_Meep_ wrote:
LGV's Insane
01:15:442 (1) - remove NC
01:15:887 (2) - NC
lol just NC it all

8/5 mods

k thanks for mods!

kk update again

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lit120

3,251 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2016-10-30T15:51:15+00:00

updated LGV's

Rizia

3,114 posts

Joined January 2012

Rizia 2016-11-06T10:54:02+00:00

Found unused .wav files:
- normal-sliderslide23.wav

other is fine

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-11-06T11:13:53+00:00

oh, that's from my hitsounding
Had wrong sampleset somewhere, it's used on 01:28:660 (1) - now, don't remove it!

also 00:06:086 - has red/green timing points with different volume settings for
Beom's Extra, Perfect World and Karia's Extra. should be fixed
seems like the red line should also be 60% like the green one

SPOILER

osu file format v14

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lit120

3,251 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2016-11-06T11:52:43+00:00

updated lasse's

Rizia

3,114 posts

Joined January 2012

Rizia 2016-11-06T15:19:44+00:00

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LGV894

355 posts

Joined May 2013

LGV894 2016-11-09T10:55:20+00:00

Rizia wrote:
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Kujinn

1,382 posts

Joined December 2013

Kujinn 2017-10-01T20:01:00+00:00

LGV894 wrote:
Rizia wrote:
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pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2017-12-23T10:23:56+00:00

>1 year ago
do u hate this map yet

top diff
many thoughts on Contrast
00:20:343 (1,2,3,4) - should have lower intensity than 00:22:719 (1) - this section. proper drum beat doesn't come in until there, so it feels less intense. spacing or sv should complement that. karia/boem/david diffs do this well, so maybe reference them.
00:29:848 (1,2,3) - similar idea but more buildup. gives more room for contrast that you're not utilizing

00:53:610 (1) - drums go into half tempo, showing that with mapping would be good (lowering sv = easiest way, around .8x is ok)
00:55:986 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - start with slightly smaller spacing then build up more. your spacing is going from hype to really hype while song goes from calm to really hype. need more of that ConTrast
01:16:185 (1,1,2,3) - check how stacks are affecting visuals here. assuming not intentional
01:18:412 (1,2,3) - the small spacing works well, would be even better with slightly lower sv (like .9x) which could be bumped up again on 01:19:600 -
01:20:937 - same as 00:53:610 (1) -

your newer maps show you know how to fix this stuff

karia
01:16:333 (2,1,2,3) - check how stacks are affecting visuals here. assuming not intentional

boem
00:16:630 (4,1) - should swap ncs. importnat sound is beofre the big white tick

david
01:26:729 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - can you do something to differentiate this from the section right before it? vocals only feels a lot different than vocals + drums but your mapping is the same. lower sv/spacing would work, or less dense rhythm like everyone else

hard
00:01:902 (4,1) - should raise stack leniency so this stacks properly
00:31:779 (6,7,8,9) - 00:37:868 (3,4,5,1) - 01:06:383 (3,4,5,1) - check how stacks are affecting visuals here. assuming not intentional

normal
00:44:105 (1,2) - should swap combos. will have the same effect as sliderend on big white tick like 00:48:561 (6,1) - 00:50:640 (5,1) -

easy
00:00:614 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - uhhhhhhh use a normal comboing pattern. timing changes on an easy diff wont be more readable if every object is a 1

call me back if you improve the top diff!!

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-12-23T12:09:58+00:00

1 insane 5 extras 😩😩😩😩😩😩

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2017-12-23T12:25:25+00:00

the extras are just overspaced insanes anyways 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀

http://puu.sh/yMouv/2c11356c92.zip
made some bigger changes that should make the map much nicer overall while still keeping the main ideas I had when I mapped this over a year ago
also 5.8 => 5.63* lol

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2017-12-26T05:00:02+00:00

applied that pishifat said
and fixed some parts

thanks!

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lit120

3,251 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2017-12-27T01:55:38+00:00

oh look! i got a mod that's about to qualified soon after a year!

easy's done
normal's done
hard's done (increased to SL4 instead) (discussed with Lasse about stacks it ruined my DS mapping style, but it's a worth to try, as i do know the reason why he did it lol)
fixed for beomsan's instead (it's not even that big problem, so it won't affect his way in mapping, unless he forgot about it lol)

regarding about top diff, i decided to delete it, cuz i don't have a good mood to remap and change stuff. plus, i hate my old mapping style there, as i never did a good aesthetically looking and such with a better flow and mapping for a song lmao

thanks!

updated lasse's and karia's

Kisses wrote:
1 insane 5 extras 😩😩😩😩😩😩

well sorry xd

Dilectus

1,727 posts

Joined April 2014

Dilectus 2017-12-27T15:59:29+00:00

thanks pishi! lowered note density and sv

https://pastebin.com/ktKa1kTQ

lit120

3,251 posts

Joined August 2013

Topic Starter

lit120 2017-12-27T16:03:56+00:00

updated david's

Uta

963 posts

Joined December 2016

Uta 2017-12-28T02:42:31+00:00

Kisses wrote:
1 Insane 5 Extras

>2016 mapping xd

Beomsan

1,878 posts

Joined November 2013

Beomsan 2018-01-05T00:29:35+00:00

is it still going? waaa
fixed pishifat's mod and something strange to me

osu file format v14

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pishifat

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pishifat 2018-02-01T07:41:35+00:00

qats are unable to access the old site for graveyarded maps so i can't bubble until you make this pending

lit120

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lit120 2018-02-03T20:35:57+00:00

pishifat wrote:
qats are unable to access the old site for graveyarded maps so i can't bubble until you make this pending

woops. reviving it now!

updated Beomsan's

pishifat

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pishifat 2018-02-04T08:10:11+00:00

looking forward to rank in 2019

lit120

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lit120 2018-03-03T15:41:16+00:00

had a mod from frontier's before, so here

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22:17 lit120: hey uh
22:17 *- Frontier - is away: afk
22:17 lit120: can u qualify maps now as a probation BN after rules went changed?
22:17 - Frontier -: nani
22:17 - Frontier -: ya
22:17 lit120: ohhh
22:17 - Frontier -: if a full nominator bubbled
22:18 lit120: PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS 2016 MAP
22:18 - Frontier -: send me then!!!!!!!!!!
22:18 lit120: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/506544 adiawjdoiajdiawodjawio
22:18 lit120: bubbled by a QAT btw
22:18 - Frontier -: can i just directly qual without checking?
22:19 lit120: too risky
22:35 - Frontier -: um
22:35 - Frontier -: found no issue
22:35 - Frontier -: only one thing
22:35 lit120: let's see
22:36 - Frontier -: on beomsan's
22:36 - Frontier -: 00:22:645 - is this intentional to add clap?
22:36 - Frontier -: cuz it's irritating af lol
22:36 lit120: uhhh
22:36 lit120: heard that drum roll there
22:36 lit120: hmmm
22:37 lit120: hold on
22:37 lit120: also fixed 00:21:234 (1,2) - stack (wait, lemme think about the hitsound there)
22:38 lit120: ok, yep, intentional
22:38 lit120: cuz drum rolls
22:38 lit120: Karia's and Lasse's did that
22:38 lit120: lemme update this
22:40 - Frontier -: o

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- Frontier - 2018-03-03T15:42:57+00:00

but now is 2018

lit120

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lit120 2018-03-03T15:43:27+00:00

pishifat wrote:
looking forward to rank in 2019

not anymore!

Noffy

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Noffy 2018-03-03T16:48:19+00:00

Hi, metadata check here.

Regarding your source, the only references I found to a full title of "グリザイアの楽園 - LE EDEN DE LA GRISAIA -" was in reference to the games, not the anime which this song is from. On both the artist's and the anime's websites, the anime is always referred to as only "グリザイアの楽園" . If there was something I missed for the anime being referred to with the subtitle, or something showing that the song was also featured in a game with that title, please let me know. Otherwise, please let either a QAT, me, or another metadata helper know so we can get this fixed as soon as possible.

- Unicode Title: 刹那の果実
- Romanised Title: Setsuna no Kajitsu
- Unicode Artist: 黒崎真音
- Romanised Artist: Maon Kurosaki
- Source: グリザイアの楽園

- References:
+ http://nbcuni-music.com/maon/contents/h ... 50000.html
+ http://www.grisaia-anime.com/cd/opening_theme.html
+ http://nbcuni-music.com/maon/contents/h ... 90000.html
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lit120

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lit120 2018-03-03T17:11:01+00:00

uhhhh, i took it from a ranked map about the source right here at first while mapping this back then https://osu.ppy.sh/s/322076

i just had a look from https://vndb.org/v7724#main and seems that there isn't a vocal named "Maon Kurosaki" and had a search on it somewhere and found this op from the current source here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7eq3Z_g3JE

let's get things over it now hm

Doyak

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Doyak 2018-03-03T17:18:50+00:00