Yamanote Line - Yamanoted heaven [Yamanote Line x Second_hea · forum

Stefan

Global Moderator

10,393 posts

Joined January 2011

Stefan 2016-09-12T14:27:08+00:00

jesus, you both speak german. So do that.

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-09-12T14:32:28+00:00

Stefan wrote:
jesus, you both speak german. So do that.

SPATIONIERE NUR DIE LETZTE NOTE DES DRILLINGS

Shmiklak

Elite Storyboarder

3,218 posts

Joined January 2015

Shmiklak 2016-09-13T16:08:47+00:00

m4m from your q

[general]

tags are conflicting
i think your kiais here 00:20:217 - are bust. please make less kiai.
please dissable widescreen support. you haven't sb

[easy]

00:20:217 (3) - this can be nced to distinguish a-a-a-a-a sound like was made on adv diff.

[normal]

this 00:20:217 (1) - can be nced to distinguish A-A-a-a-a-a sound like was made in adv diff.

[advanced]

you didn't stack anything with sliderends before 00:25:454 (3,4) - and i don't think that you should do it. please avoid this stack.

[Irrtgster's Second Heaven]

i'm really not sure that it's passable lol. mostly i can pass small cs maps, but this was impossible for me.
00:14:578 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - combo from 19 objects seems too big. what about adding another NC here 00:16:189 (11) - on downbeat?
00:19:412 (11) - same with this one
i think stacking these 00:20:721 (2,3) - on same place as 00:20:217 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - will confuse players, since they will should change their tapping rythm. what about making jumps for 1/4 rythms here?

[Kyshiro']

why did you make kick slider here? 00:26:864 (5) - i don't hear any changes on sound. i think this can be changed to stream

[feb]

what about putting circles here 00:05:414 - and here 00:06:018 - you didn't make anything like this in all diff, so it can be inconsistent.
why did you make NCs on 00:06:622 (1) - and 00:06:924 (1) - ? what did you follow. i just want to know.
i don't see reasons for 1/8 repeat sliders here 00:07:327 (1,2,1,2) - i think this can be a bit more logical if you make slider from 00:07:327 - to 00:08:032 - since it has really strong and long train sound.
00:09:744 (1,2) - they are overlaping too much so reverse arrow on 00:10:248 (2) - is really hard to notice. i suggest to make this overlap a bit less.
same goes for 00:11:758 (3,1,1) -

[your insane]

why does it have another hitsounds as your easy diff? also your hitnormals really hard to be heareable. what about making them stronger?
it's also too straight. i think you should add a bit more curves, since just straight sliders are really boring ;w; i understand that it was special meming style, but please, less memes ;w; (well maybe it's not meme, idk)
that's only one stack 00:03:903 (4,5,1) - for sounds like this. you didn't stack anything in this map on same sounds, so this shouldn't be stacked too imo.
what about putting circle here 00:12:866 - to making triplet? i htink it should work fine, since it has noticeable sound.
same for this sound 00:20:922 -

[bonsai]

seems clean

[lasse]

same suggestion for hises as at stjpa's ins
kaii on this diff seems really strange. stars fountain on 00:09:341 - seems very randomly due playing. i suggest you make same kiai as other diffs, or make it better.

really nice map. shooted 2 stars. best of luck, stjpa ♥

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2016-09-13T22:01:32+00:00

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Fixed last point, I'd actually like to keep the NC though. Thx! Can someone add hitsounds to our diff? xD

Some things about Feb's Diff I'd consider highly disapprovable:

The rhythm in the first part is really offputting in my opinion. It has breaks where there shouldn't be any, and has just an ongoing rhythm where it doesn't fit at all imo.
00:03:500 - Could use a small break (only 1 circle), since there's nothing outstanding on blue
00:05:313 (3) - This however does not need this small break, what is it good for?
00:07:025 - Overmapped.
00:07:327 (1,2,1,2) - Where did you hear those?
00:10:248 (2) - Unreadable
00:11:758 (3,1,1) - Less readable than that unreadable thing above
00:16:390 - One circle would be fine here, because having 00:16:592 - unclickable does not really seem that emphasizing.
00:20:217 (1) - CTRL + G would really help getting some movement into it, not necessary tho
00:22:634 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - I didn't hear one of these 1/8

The hitsounds, well, make them a bit more quiet or less only-whistly because all i hear are these whistles and that doesn't fit the song at all.

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-09-13T22:16:22+00:00

Shmiklak:
I think the hitsounds on my diff/insane and whatever other diffs use them are audible enough
changed kiai settings though, since idk why I made them like that in the first place

update => copy my hitsounding, it has trains

fix tags on taiko diffs

Underforest

5,895 posts

Joined July 2015

Underforest 2016-09-14T02:45:07+00:00

m4m from your queue (since mexico is in america, if you was refering to usa friends then take this as a NM www)

generally
i know it's 30 seconds map but overusing kiai is not rankable, just make 2/4 kiais

easy
00:11:355 (3,1) - DS?

normal
00:08:536 - add a circle here?

advanced
00:09:744 (1,3) - you didn't blanket it correctly
00:15:988 - add a circle here?

hard
fine

hyper
fine

insane
00:00:077 - finish
00:09:341 (5) - pls buffer this so player can get into next object or at least do it more close with the slider
00:27:468 (1) - finish

kyshiro
00:00:077 - finish
00:27:468 (1) - finish

feb
i need to agree with irre, some things on your diff could be improved like rhythm and some overmaps

irre and ktrgster
can't mod cs7 www

good luck owo

Lyawi

Global Moderator

3,336 posts

Joined February 2015

Lyawi 2016-09-14T11:48:19+00:00

Shmiklak wrote:
[normal]
this 00:20:217 (1) - can be nced to distinguish A-A-a-a-a-a sound like was made in adv diff. / A-A-a-a-a-a oki

Underforest wrote:
normal
00:08:536 - add a circle here? / mmmm no, I see no reason for that

Thanks

it's just one NC from Shmiklak's mod, otherwise:

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Lama Poluna

796 posts

Joined June 2014

Lama Poluna 2016-09-14T13:08:01+00:00

hey, m4m

All diffs

00:29:885 - end of spinner or 00:30:288 - .

Easy

00:13:772 (2) - To change the form? http://puu.sh/raV1y.jpg . Look better.
00:17:800 (1) - He didn't seem perfectly flat. http://puu.sh/raV70.jpg .
00:20:217 (3) - I don't know, but maybe NC?
00:26:662 (3) - Why only here clap? You can add it in different places. 00:00:077 (1) - , The strong bits by type - 00:04:910 (3) - 00:20:217 (3) - .
00:27:468 (1) - Part of spinner is empty sound. 00:29:885 - Then it needs to end.

Lyawi's Normal

00:03:702 - I think it is possible to add a note. http://puu.sh/raVmf.jpg .
00:08:133 (3) - NC, remove 00:08:737 (1) - ?
00:16:189 (2) - http://puu.sh/raVqJ.jpg ? Add 1 white square for curvature.
00:16:189 (2) - Whistle At the end ?
00:20:217 (3) - NС?

MrSergio's Advanced

00:10:550 (3) - Although it is stupid, but this blanket is terrible.
00:14:578 (1,2,3,4) - Here you map sounds, but 00:16:189 (1,2,3) - here they are omitted. Why? 00:17:196 - Atleast here note.
00:19:814 (1) - Remove NC?
00:22:231 (1) - Remove Nc, 00:22:836 (2) - NC.
00:23:440 (1) - R NC, 00:24:245 - NC.

Lasse's Hard

00:01:688 (1,2) - Do not look in one direction. http://puu.sh/raVOj.jpg Look better.
00:05:514 (2,3,4) - 00:03:098 (1,2,3) - Why not replace to stack?
00:14:578 - 00:20:217 - There is nothing to change. 00:15:182 (2,3,4) - Here it looks better in this part.

Bonsai's Hyper

00:07:730 (8,9) - http://puu.sh/raVZN.jpg Its better.
00:09:340 (9) - NC?
00:13:772 (5) - This line is too boring. This line is too boring. Its better?
00:16:693 (5) - NС*

Insane

00:20:922 - Miss note?

Feb's Extra

00:02:896 (1) - 00:01:889 (2) - stack?
00:06:622 (5) - - Lol Nc, remove.
The last chorus is good, but another think you need to remap.

Kyshiro's Extreme

00:04:709 (4) - http://puu.sh/raWrU.jpg ?
00:10:550 (1,2,3,4) - - Here it is necessary or to do smoother or to increase gradually the distance?
00:14:376 (5) - x440 y40?
00:26:662 (1,2,3,4,5) - It rankable?

Irrtgster's Second Heaven

It's too cool, can't mod it sry. 10/10 but im so want 00:22:332 (4) - x168 y196.

gl :з
nice

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-09-14T13:56:48+00:00

Lama Poluna wrote:
Bonsai's Hyper

00:07:730 (8,9) - http://puu.sh/raVZN.jpg Its better. Why though? That wouldn't fit the overall style of the diff
00:09:340 (9) - NC? nah, I generally only NC once per measure, and this doesn't feel special enough for an additional NC, also it would look kinda weird
00:13:772 (5) - This line is too boring. This line is too boring. Its better? taste
00:16:693 (5) - NС* nope

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-09-14T13:57:56+00:00

fixed the first point, I don't really get the others, seems like you got triggered by manual stacks or something lol

https://0paste.com/9148.txt

Stjpa

886 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Stjpa 2016-09-14T16:02:40+00:00

Shmiklak wrote:
m4m from your q

[easy]
00:20:217 (3) - this can be nced to distinguish a-a-a-a-a sound like was made on adv diff. NC emphasis in an Easy wew.

[your insane]
why does it have another hitsounds as your easy diff? also your hitnormals really hard to be heareable. what about making them stronger? What's wrong with it though? Easy has more audible ones that makes it easier for beginners, and Insane has funnier hitsounds while still giving enough feedback.
it's also too straight. i think you should add a bit more curves, since just straight sliders are really boring ;w; i understand that it was special meming style, but please, less memes ;w; (well maybe it's not meme, idk) Since when are mapping styles memes...
that's only one stack 00:03:903 (4,5,1) - for sounds like this. you didn't stack anything in this map on same sounds, so this shouldn't be stacked too imo. K.
what about putting circle here 00:12:866 - to making triplet? i htink it should work fine, since it has noticeable sound.
same for this sound 00:20:922 - Both are focused on the other vocals to fully emphasize them. With a triplet that wouldn't be possible, at least not as good as now.

Underforest wrote:
m4m from your queue (since mexico is in america, if you was refering to usa friends then take this as a NM www)

easy
00:11:355 (3,1) - DS? d

insane
00:00:077 - finish You can't hitsound the start of the spinner, and the end has nothing that justifies a hitsound.
00:09:341 (5) - pls buffer this so player can get into next object or at least do it more close with the slider Removed 1 repeat.
00:27:468 (1) - finish

Lama Poluna wrote:
hey, m4m

All diffs

00:29:885 - end of spinner or 00:30:288 - . Not a problem at all, also it's needed for drain.
Easy

00:13:772 (2) - To change the form? http://puu.sh/raV1y.jpg . Look better. Made it on purpose though.
00:17:800 (1) - He didn't seem perfectly flat. http://puu.sh/raV70.jpg . I like mine more.
00:20:217 (3) - I don't know, but maybe NC? I don't like NC emphasis in easier diffs.
00:26:662 (3) - Why only here clap? You can add it in different places. 00:00:077 (1) - , The strong bits by type - 00:04:910 (3) - 00:20:217 (3) - . Just copied them from another diff, but I guess it's because the end of the map, nothing special.
00:27:468 (1) - Part of spinner is empty sound. 00:29:885 - Then it needs to end.

Insane

00:20:922 - Miss note? Explained it in a mod above.

Feb

1,027 posts

Joined June 2014

Feb 2016-09-16T14:54:10+00:00

Shmiklak wrote:
[feb]
what about putting circles here 00:05:414 - and here 00:06:018 - you didn't make anything like this in all diff, so it can be inconsistent.
why did you make NCs on 00:06:622 (1) - and 00:06:924 (1) - ? what did you follow. i just want to know.
i don't see reasons for 1/8 repeat sliders here 00:07:327 (1,2,1,2) - i think this can be a bit more logical if you make slider from 00:07:327 - to 00:08:032 - since it has really strong and long train sound.
00:09:744 (1,2) - they are overlaping too much so reverse arrow on 00:10:248 (2) - is really hard to notice. i suggest to make this overlap a bit less. see irres mod.
same goes for 00:11:758 (3,1,1) - thought about it in irres mod and denied it, but i changed my mind now. aaaa

can't really answer to your mod since i have remapped alot of the suggestions prolly (if i didn't mention sth on one point i prolly don't have it this way any longer.)

Some things about Feb's Diff I'd consider highly disapprovable:

The rhythm in the first part is really offputting in my opinion. It has breaks where there shouldn't be any, and has just an ongoing rhythm where it doesn't fit at all imo.
00:03:500 - Could use a small break (only 1 circle), since there's nothing outstanding on blue prolly mapped it with a 1/4 here because of the vocal, i kinda find it not necessary to change here, however i changed this part already a bit up.
00:05:313 (3) - This however does not need this small break, what is it good for? gone.
00:07:025 - Overmapped. gone
00:07:327 (1,2,1,2) - Where did you hear those? ^
00:10:248 (2) - Unreadable moved it more to the right so the arrow is seen.
00:11:758 (3,1,1) - Less readable than that unreadable thing above not as hard as it looks imo, maybe cud use some testing tho.
00:16:390 - One circle would be fine here, because having 00:16:592 - unclickable does not really seem that emphasizing. aaa 00:16:693 - deleted the single note and extended the slider instead, dunno i like to have the movement here in this section.
00:20:217 (1) - CTRL + G would really help getting some movement into it, not necessary tho hmm i kinda like the pause i create stopping the movement here for the player.
00:22:634 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - I didn't hear one of these 1/8 same

The hitsounds, well, make them a bit more quiet or less only-whistly because all i hear are these whistles and that doesn't fit the song at all. using the sets hitsounds then aaaaaa

Underforest wrote:
feb
i need to agree with irre, some things on your diff could be improved like rhythm and some overmaps

well thank god you can agree with people and not come up with your own suggestions like normal people would.

@lama

stack: sure
second one changed during irres mod (remap)

btw. 00:04:105 (1,2,3,4) - I undermap these on purpose.

hope ppl are agreeing with it more now.

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snowball112

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Joined February 2013

snowball112 2016-09-16T20:17:40+00:00

Heya, random taiko mod

Stefan's Muzukashii

You could move 00:06:119 to 00:05:917 and change to k, would fit better to what you've been following up until now imo. Similar with 00:12:564.
Would look better if you make 00:14:578 (49,50) and 00:17:800 (59) d, this would give a nice overall dkdk structure on the downbeats in this part and also looks better for the pattern of 00:14:578 (49,50,51,52,53) imo to make it the exact opposite to 00:16:189 (54,55,56,57,58).
I think you could move 00:22:131 to 00:21:728 and change both this note and 00:21:828 to k, would be more similar to stuff like 00:03:903 (11,12,13) where you used 1/4 and far more audible 1/4 at this point as well.
Similar to ^, I'd suggest you move 00:25:353 to 00:24:950 and change 00:24:850 to d and 00:25:252 to k. It just sounds really odd to have 1/4 right in the middle of far stronger 1/4 instrument sounds starting at 00:24:850 and 00:25:454.
Even though 00:22:634 is for vocal, I'd suggest you make this d, is far nicer for structure within 00:22:634 (73,74,75,76).
I'd suggest you make 00:27:266 d as well, the vocal is not that strong and you have low background instruments as well.

Stefan's Oni

00:14:578 (70,71) and 00:17:800 (84,85) would sound much better as d, the sound is fairly low and would give better structure to this section. I'd also suggest you make 00:16:793 (79,80,81,82,83) kkd kk for the high sounds on 00:17:196 (82,83) and also looks better in this part overall imo.
00:21:627 (98,99,100,101,102,103) sounds better as kkd k d d or ddk k d d imo, if you're going for the vocal sounds then 00:21:627 (98,99) should be the same, and 00:22:433 feels much weaker than the following note so d would fit better.
It would make more sense to have a 1/4 dkdkd starting from 00:25:454 instead of using doubles on 00:25:857 (119,120,121,122) because the vocal on the doubles is far less intense. A d on 00:26:058 would work fine instead of the doubles.
00:24:850 (113,114,115) would sound much better as ddk, the vocal on the last note + instrument is relatively strong.
00:04:709 (19,20,21) kd k would work better for vocal and instruments, k for similar sounds of 00:04:508 (18,19) would be good.
Remove 00:01:788 feels nicer spacing-wise, and 00:01:889 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) would work better as ddk kkd k d for both instruments and the low vocal on 00:02:493.

Good luck

Stefan

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Stefan 2016-09-17T16:49:25+00:00

snowball112 wrote:
Heya, random taiko mod

Stefan's Muzukashii
You could move 00:06:119 to 00:05:917 and change to k, would fit better to what you've been following up until now imo. Similar with 00:12:564. This actually sounds legit if I had a note on 00:05:917 - and 00:06:119 - at the same time. kd instead of k d is imo the worse decision. No changes here.
Would look better if you make 00:14:578 (49,50) and 00:17:800 (59) d, this would give a nice overall dkdk structure on the downbeats in this part and also looks better for the pattern of 00:14:578 (49,50,51,52,53) imo to make it the exact opposite to 00:16:189 (54,55,56,57,58). Hmkay.
I think you could move 00:22:131 to 00:21:728 and change both this note and 00:21:828 to k, would be more similar to stuff like 00:03:903 (11,12,13) where you used 1/4 and far more audible 1/4 at this point as well. Aye aye.
Similar to ^, I'd suggest you move 00:25:353 to 00:24:950 and change 00:24:850 to d and 00:25:252 to k. It just sounds really odd to have 1/4 right in the middle of far stronger 1/4 instrument sounds starting at 00:24:850 and 00:25:454. ~
Even though 00:22:634 is for vocal, I'd suggest you make this d, is far nicer for structure within 00:22:634 (73,74,75,76). Okay.
I'd suggest you make 00:27:266 d as well, the vocal is not that strong and you have low background instruments as well. I don't really find that k sounds too low.

Stefan's Oni
00:14:578 (70,71) and 00:17:800 (84,85) would sound much better as d, the sound is fairly low and would give better structure to this section. Yup.
I'd also suggest you make 00:16:793 (79,80,81,82,83) kkd kk for the high sounds on 00:17:196 (82,83) and also looks better in this part overall imo. I don't feel like throwing away my idea of kdk.
00:21:627 (98,99,100,101,102,103) sounds better as kkd k d d or ddk k d d imo, if you're going for the vocal sounds then 00:21:627 (98,99) should be the same, and 00:22:433 feels much weaker than the following note so d would fit better. kkd k d k sounds okay for me.
It would make more sense to have a 1/4 dkdkd starting from 00:25:454 instead of using doubles on 00:25:857 (119,120,121,122) because the vocal on the doubles is far less intense. A d on 00:26:058 would work fine instead of the doubles. I decided to map like that since it suits well to the music and effects.
00:24:850 (113,114,115) would sound much better as ddk, the vocal on the last note + instrument is relatively strong. Really? I think using kkd here as well fits well.
00:04:709 (19,20,21) kd k would work better for vocal and instruments, k for similar sounds of 00:04:508 (18,19) would be good. Dunno.. I couldn't really do something with that.
Remove 00:01:788 feels nicer spacing-wise, and 00:01:889 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) would work better as ddk kkd k d for both instruments and the low vocal on 00:02:493. Tried but I came to the conclusion I prefer the kdkdk much more.

Good luck

w~

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Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2016-09-18T15:25:13+00:00

i think you asked me to mod this or something??????

[general]

what the fuck are these airhorns they throw me off so much when playing this ;_______________________;
I've always wanted to add that Tickrate 2 fits the song best to one of my mods, because for everything up from advanced, it does.

[easy]

00:00:077 (1) - meh the recovery time makes the entire thing so not woth it. with a song this short you may as well just throw a circle into 00:00:077 - for the cymbal and then start mapping from 00:01:688 - because just having song start exploding while playarea is empty is :c
also i think SV 1.0 would fit better. the 1/1 spacing at 0.8x base sv with 1.0 ds is so tiny that i thought it's 1/2 at first and panickhit stuff
00:14:578 - what kind of rhythm are these 3/1 sliders even following? would suggest to follow the flute the following way:
00:14:578 (1) - 2/1
00:16:189 (2) - 2/1 + circle in 00:17:398 -
00:17:800 (1) - 2/1
00:19:412 (2) - just a circle for rhythm variety maybe
00:27:468 - maybe map this as a circle? seems kinda underwhelming

[lyawi's normal]

the stuff for easy can be applied to this diff as is (given you agree with the stuff on easy)
00:03:500 - since you're mapping to the melody here, i think this should not be left out (+ polarity would be nice if this was mapped), might require just deleting 00:03:098 (2) - or something
00:04:105 (3) - would fit melody better if it ended in 00:04:507 - ?
00:08:133 (3) - polarity to next circle could be better off if this was an 1/1 slider (may want to swap combos if you do this)
00:10:550 (2) - vocals would be better represented if this was a 3/4 repeat, feels kinda weird to be clicking something for 1/1 and hear 3/4 really really clearly. may requrie adjusting next combo if you do this (maybe deletion of 00:11:960 (2) - workds)
00:20:217 - idk these kind of kiai toggles work only if there's like stuff that fits the toggles, right now it's just YAY PARTY and no clicking, may just want to adjust this to be one continuous thing, a toggle like http://puu.sh/rfsw5/3ab0df3068.jpg (http://puu.sh/rfswJ/9517ca53e8.jpg ) could work
00:27:569 (1) - spinner appears kinda early encouraging people to leave the slider in panick for it, may move the start of it back to the red tick

[feb]

ar 9 would be the absolute maximum i would put on a diff with this density and pattern complexity
00:20:217 (1) - pls wiggle at a constant speed the thing you're doing currently is mapping intestines
00:03:702 (1,2,3,4,1) - rhythm in this would be way clearer if 00:03:803 (2) - was a passive rhythm because then melody would me more clearly emphasised
00:10:248 (2) - blue tick start of this is kind of not suppported by anything, besides i think 00:10:348 - these two 1/4 sounds deserve clicks
00:10:852 - seems way more worth mapping with a sliderhead than the rest since the song actually supports it here
00:11:960 (1,1) - 1/4 slider + 4 circles would be what the song is doing, the problem i have with this is that 00:12:161 - to 00:12:463 - are all repeated vocal sounds and the one which goes offbeat is the one you have to click
00:17:196 (2,3) - 00:17:599 (5,6) - mapping these out contradicts 1. pacing of the part and the way you followed the melody with 00:14:578 (1,2,3) - making everything unpredictable
00:24:648 (3,4) - you buffered 00:09:341 (1,2) - but not these? kinda unfair.
00:26:662 (1,1) - tbh just doing http://puu.sh/rft7m/948585a159.jpg would be way easier to interpret

?_? this diff is like a collection of patterns and like half of these patterns don't really try to follow the song for me so the thing becomes way harder to interpret than what the song suggests

[Oni]

Any reason for od 5.4 in particular? i'd just suggest go OD 6 and HP 8 (and hp 8 since since rn a play like this is a legit pass :/)
00:03:500 - unlike the other doubles in the entire rest of the diff, vocals don't really support them so i'd suggest going http://puu.sh/rftqg/f3c44c3684.jpg or something like 00:03:702 - ddkdk
00:17:800 (84,85) - d d ? then you'd have a A B A structure instead of A B B for 00:14:578 - d d 00:16:189 - k k 00:17:800 - d d or something, or make 00:14:578 - k k to just repeat the same thing (which would be more boring than the other suggestion here)
Idk if wording of the previous suggestion is understandable at all l o l

[Sergio]

00:14:578 - may want to toggle off kiai exactly here ??
00:01:285 - could end the first spinner here to map the downbeat which kind of seems worth mapping
00:14:578 - to not lower spacing hereat least or sv even is kinda
00:14:578 (1,2,3,4) - you're mixxing too many layers here. With the instruments you mapped you'd expect a triple on 00:15:988 - instead of just blank. if you're following the main flute like 00:16:189 (1,2,3) - then 00:15:383 (3) - would be better off as 3/2 slider
00:17:800 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - no idea what this is prioritising, rhythm is all over the place between both instruments.
http://puu.sh/rfu72/9487e639dd.jpg would be way clearer with what's being followed
how about a 3/2 slider for 00:20:217 (1) - to map 00:21:023 - ? also about the kiai flashes, may want to have a look at what i said about them on lyawi's diff
00:26:662 (2) - somehow downwards movement woudl make for more of a difference i guess.

[Lasse]
AAAA Airhorns

i dont get the system to when stuff stacks upwards and when it just does customs downwards, besides i don't really find the custom stacks all over the place aesthetically pleasing to look at, to be honest.
00:01:688 (1) - starting your map with a 3/4 slider right off may feel super weird, try taking off one reverse and see if that feels better.
00:03:903 (4) - i feel like these should be circles
00:21:023 - doing the same thing for the melody hereafter is just really really boring to play. the song offers so many more batshit sounds and even gets more intense than the first half and you throwing jsut the exact same concept at it is kind of underwhelming

God i hate the airhorn

[Muzukashii]

just go with od 5??? HP 8 or 8.5 for similar reasons as oni
00:05:917 - 00:12:362 - i feel like this would be way more interesting if you mapped these out
00:17:800 - is there any reason to suddenly go away from the concept you had for the past 2 measures? would rather delete 00:19:009 - for the rest moment instead of forcing one in that spot.

[:deciduous_tree:]

YAY, NO AIRHORN
00:03:702 (5) - idk maybe rhythm might be clearer if you deleted this
00:07:327 (6,7,8,9) - i think 00:13:369 (3,4,5) - and 00:26:763 (5) - is so much cooler for the backghround sound
00:08:938 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - are you sure you wanna throw like 4 different things into one stream? i just think there's better ways to reflect this
00:21:627 (4,5) - this is a pain in the ass to comprehend, maybe if the first one wasnt an 1/8 repeat, this would be way easier?

yay

[insane]

00:03:299 (1,2) - i think these should get the same kind of objects since the melody doesn't change much
00:10:550 - Baumi's rhythm in this point is way easier to comprehend and arguably more fitting, you jsut throw 2 layers together and emphasise clicks while the song would suggest 3/4 rhythm for these really dominant vocals
00:12:564 - somehow would represent better if this was a click instead of 00:12:765 (4) -
00:20:922 - kinda weird that you didn't map this but the sounds before, also may want to buffer your 1/8 sliders
00:26:259 (4,1) - nothing on that blue tick really calls for this jump, so maybe don't map the blue tick as the focus of attention?

[kyshiro]

00:03:299 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this rhythm, especially the jump from 2 - 3 doesn't feel representative of what's going on in the song melody-wise, i think 00:03:803 (4) - should have the bigger spacing
00:07:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - kinda anticlimactic to have loud hitsound and baybspacing like 00:14:981 (2,3,4,5) - going on here
00:10:550 (1,2,3,4) - a rhythm like http://puu.sh/rfvE5/10afe50863.jpg would reflect what vocals are doing better, this matters because you decide to map them just before in 00:08:938 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - so vocal focus is kind of expected
00:15:081 (3) - might either delete or have this as a sliderend, would fit the instrument you focus in this part way better
00:26:662 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - i don't hear any 1/8 drumroll here, are you sure there is even anything that suggests 1/8?

cool B)

not modding the diff that i can complete on 40% with NF

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-09-18T15:39:49+00:00

Lasse
AAAA Airhorns
they are supposed to be train horns : (
i dont get the system to when stuff stacks upwards and when it just does customs downwards, besides i don't really find the custom stacks all over the place aesthetically pleasing to look at, to be honest.
initial direction of each stack is based on cursor movevent into it, then the direction stays for the whole stack. I think they are cute :c
00:01:688 (1) - starting your map with a 3/4 slider right off may feel super weird, try taking off one reverse and see if that feels better. will try that for now
00:03:903 (4) - i feel like these should be circles yes, also changed 00:23:238 (4) -
00:21:023 - doing the same thing for the melody hereafter is just really really boring to play. the song offers so many more batshit sounds and even gets more intense than the first half and you throwing jsut the exact same concept at it is kind of underwhelming totally get your point, but considering how advanced and hyper are mapped I don't think that would fit quite well ; / If I mapped like an Insane+ I would've done that

God i hate the airhorn

thanks!
I personally don't like str 2 at all, but if the other diffs end up using that I'd put it too

https://0paste.com/9167.txt

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-09-18T15:42:50+00:00

OMG HI OKO

Okorin wrote:
[:deciduous_tree:]
YAY, NO AIRHORN
00:03:702 (5) - idk maybe rhythm might be clearer if you deleted this I wanted to include the vocals too a bit, but since someone else didn't get that either I now made 00:03:299 (3,4) a reverse-1/4-slider so there are more vocals in the section in general, shouldn't feel so out-of-place anymore
00:07:327 (6,7,8,9) - i think 00:13:369 (3,4,5) - and 00:26:763 (5) - is so much cooler for the backghround sound But that's kinda my transition to the more vocal-heavy half of the Kiai, idk the background-sound didn't really get to me here and the vocals seem so much more prominent
00:08:938 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,1) - are you sure you wanna throw like 4 different things into one stream? i just think there's better ways to reflect this uhh it's just two things, the frist four female vocals and then the second four male vocals, and they're kinda differentiated by the edge/shape of the stream, imo that's enough :/ (I like the aesthetics of this combo-wombo)
00:21:627 (4,5) - this is a pain in the ass to comprehend, maybe if the first one wasnt an 1/8 repeat, this would be way easier? true, changed it to a 1/4-triplet
yay

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Hollow Delta

793 posts

Joined March 2015

Hollow Delta 2016-09-18T17:14:09+00:00

Modding cause I want to.

Easy

SPOILER

00:02:493 - I know it's an easy, so you need a breather when it comes to spinners. But can a note be placed here? The song's already gotten very intense, yet their's no note.
00:09:341 - ^

Lyawi's Normal

SPOILER

00:03:702 - Under map?
00:19:412 (2) - Not a very good flow, especially for a Normal. I'd suggest changing it to a straight slider so it looks parallel to 00:20:217 (1) -
00:20:620 - Is this much Kiai spam allowed? Wouldn't this lag a lot of computers? XD

Feb's Extra

SPOILER

:O Interesting diff.
00:21:828 (8) - I feel like this needs an NC.
00:23:641 (2) - To continue the swirly-flow of the beatmap, why not ctrl + g this?

Irrtgster's Second Heaven

SPOILER

00:05:917 (2) - ctrl + g to continue the flow?
00:14:578 - through 00:20:016 - is very easy for such a high-rated map. I can't tell you how to map it, but I'd definitely do something creative rather than just a simple stack.

MrSergio's Advanced

SPOILER

00:20:620 - I wasn't paying attention to see if this Kiai spam was in the other diffs, but I'd take this into consideration.

Stefan's Muzukashii

SPOILER

00:01:889 (2) - I feel it'd make a more interesting rhythm if you moved this note over to 00:01:990 -
00:22:936 - Why not put a don here?

Stjpa

886 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Stjpa 2016-09-18T20:14:10+00:00

Okorin wrote:
[insane]
00:03:299 (1,2) - i think these should get the same kind of objects since the melody doesn't change much Just wanna emphasize the short break of the vocals there like I did 00:04:709 (5,1) - here
00:10:550 - Baumi's rhythm in this point is way easier to comprehend and arguably more fitting, you jsut throw 2 layers together and emphasise clicks while the song would suggest 3/4 rhythm for these really dominant vocals Alright.
00:12:564 - somehow would represent better if this was a click instead of 00:12:765 (4) - Done.
00:20:922 - kinda weird that you didn't map this but the sounds before, also may want to buffer your 1/8 sliders Also because of vocal emphasis, but gonna change it if someone else points it out I guess. Also I have no idea what you mean by "buffer 1/8 sliders"
00:26:259 (4,1) - nothing on that blue tick really calls for this jump, so maybe don't map the blue tick as the focus of attention? Tbh I thought they were 1/2 when I had to re-arrange some things because of a little remap.

Also did pmuch everything for Easy except the spinner thing at the end because imo it doesn't deserve a clickable object as it's not that audible.

@Bubblun: I already changed the beginning of Easy from Oko's mod, and I don't wanna place something on 00:09:341 because I'm following a simple rhythm scheme. Thanks for checking though!

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

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Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2016-09-18T22:52:41+00:00

what i meant was using 1/4 buffertime between 1/8 repeats and circles, this applies to 00:20:217 (1) - 00:21:627 (4) -
refer to 00:25:454 (3,4) - 00:09:341 (5) - , they already do that
as for 00:26:259 (4,1,2) - i was suggesting making 00:26:662 - clickable and doing sth like http://puu.sh/rfXKN/48ec7f5675.jpg or anything more passive for that bluetick lol

Lust

osu! Alumni

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Joined January 2013

Lust 2016-09-18T22:56:48+00:00

who wouldve thought someone would map another set of this lol

Zyl

520 posts

Joined October 2013

Zyl 2016-09-19T00:04:55+00:00

Is this legal xDD?

Stjpa

886 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Stjpa 2016-09-19T00:45:15+00:00

Okorin wrote:
what i meant was using 1/4 buffertime between 1/8 repeats and circles, this applies to 00:20:217 (1) - 00:21:627 (4) -
refer to 00:25:454 (3,4) - 00:09:341 (5) - , they already do that
as for 00:26:259 (4,1,2) - i was suggesting making 00:26:662 - clickable and doing sth like http://puu.sh/rfXKN/48ec7f5675.jpg or anything more passive for that bluetick lol

done

Lust wrote:
who wouldve thought someone would map another set of this lol

KittyAdventure wanted to threw away diffs for some reason, Stefan took them into his set and got lazy, so I'm doing it now and I don't even know why.

Seijiro

osu! Alumni

3,438 posts

Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2016-09-19T19:39:30+00:00

@iYiyo
00:25:454 (3,4) - unstacked
00:26:662 (2) - considering the note there, it is fine to be plain actually

@Shmiklak
fixed with above mod

@underforest
00:09:744 (1,3) - the blanket looks fine for me tho o.O
00:15:988 - I wanted to avoid heavy stuff since this part is calmer

@Lama Poluma
00:10:550 (3) - how is this terrible, lmao
00:14:578 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:16:189 (1,2,3) - . The difference there is in emphasis of the song. With the second combo the song is calmer, hence less notes
00:19:814 (1) - yep
00:22:231 (1) - nope
00:23:440 (1) - managed NCs on my own here since you are ignoring strong beats

@Oko
00:23:440 (1) - it's already toggled off there o.O (did someone change this before I checked...?
00:01:285 - but is it worth mapping this beat instead with the end of the spinner?
00:14:578 - I thought note density would be enough D: Tell me I don't have to fix a bunch of micro DS errors now just to add a small SV for 5 seconds D:
00:15:383 (3) - converted it into 1/1 slider
00:17:800 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - it had a meaning before you ruined me the pattern above >.< Tried to fix using your rhythm
00:20:217 (1) - like the spinner, I can't bring myself to map a non-existent beat at 00:20:821 - tho. No idea how those flashes are there. Probably from other old mapsets LOL
00:26:662 (1) - heh, I honestly placed that with no particular emphasis but downwards doesn't feel so great imo :/

@Bubblun
kiai removed from Oko's mod

Thanks all for the mods and sorry for late reply.

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Stefan

Global Moderator

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Joined January 2011

Stefan 2016-09-19T19:46:11+00:00

Stjpa wrote:
Lust wrote:
who wouldve thought someone would map another set of this lol
KittyAdventure wanted to threw away diffs for some reason, Stefan took them into his set and got lazy, so I'm doing it now and I don't even know why.

how mean, that's totally... correct.

~~I take care for oko's mod later.~~
accepted everything.

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Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2016-09-21T21:50:14+00:00

the taikos are fine for me

Vespirit

350 posts

Joined December 2014

Vespirit 2016-09-23T15:40:52+00:00

ok sorry for late mod :/

[

Easy]

00:13:772 (3) - could centre the anchor for aesthetics

[

Lyawi's Normal]

00:03:702 - why skip this beat? cant find any reason that you did
00:23:440 (2,3,1) - could make this a straighter line
00:26:662 (1) - ctrl+h? this way it follows the flow from the previous slider

[

MrSergio's Advanced]

00:19:009 (4) - slider curves down, but then the next circle is much higher up
00:25:454 (1,3) - blanket?

[

Insane]

00:08:334 (3) - dont know if a circle should be here if you are following the vocals, a better idea imo would be to have (2) be a slider head and (3) be a slider end
00:22:030 (3) - why such large spacing to the next circle? to me it looked like a 1/2 gap even though its 1/4

[

Feb's Extra]

00:27:367 (1) - maybe just me, but i have no idea what sound this is for, like it would be better imo to have the spinner start without the object because really there isnt any strong sound there its just the beginning of the fade out

[

Irrtgster's Second Heaven]

00:04:608 (13) - move this to the other side of the line created by (12) and (14)? this way the curve from the 3 circles leads into the next slider and out from the previous one
00:12:161 (1,2,3,4) - try something like below? more readable, flows nicer and overall looks better imo
00:27:468 (2) - same thing i said from feb's diff

short mod for a short map, the diffs i skipped because i couldnt find anything (and i also cant mod taiko.) gl

Stjpa

886 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Stjpa 2016-09-25T14:35:58+00:00

Will answer to the mod after ktg gave his mod.

Also deleted Lyawi's Normal on request and mapped my own Normal diff.

ktgster

Elite Mapper

482 posts

Joined November 2008

ktgster 2016-10-02T04:10:37+00:00

It's a bit late and I'm tired, but here it is.

General

[General]

Imo, I really don't like the horn sound and they seem to distract more than fit to the song. I would honestly suggest you to remove it. A few other difficulties don't have the SB sound. Is that intentional?

Remove lyawi in tags.

Kyshiro's Extreme

[Kyshiro's Extreme]

1/8 Strings:

00:23:037 (3,4,5,6,1) - this is the only instance you do not ever map the 1/8, why?
00:24:850 (8,9,1) - these are also 1/8. Also trying to alternate back from 297.9 bpm streams to 148.95 bpm streams is a huge pain. Use 5 notes and an 1/8 repeat slider instead similar to 00:20:217 (1,2,3,4,5) -
00:25:454 (3,4) - Also 1/8 and the shift from this stream to the next jump pattern plainly just suck. The shift from a fast stream to alternating is simply too much for the player to handle

Other things:

00:03:803 (4,5,6,1) - the square strucuture is awkward to play and it seems a bit out of place due to the amount of round edges you used in the beginning. Change this to fit something similar to that.
00:06:522 (1) - shouldn't this be 1/4?
00:07:327 (1,2,3,4,5) - Unsure why you lowered the spacing down here, it's pretty random with all your spaced notes before this.
00:12:161 (1) - again, should be 1/4
00:13:873 (2) - ^
00:15:081 (3) - overmapped note, theres no sound here
00:22:634 (1,2) - space these more to emphasize the voice better.

Feb's Extra

[Feb's Extra]

00:09:341 (1,2) - these aren't 1/8's. There's nothing on the yellow ticks

00:04:105 (1,2,3,4) - there are actually hearable 1/4's here. Why didn't you map the blue ticks either by 1/4 slider or circles
00:06:320 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - exactly why is this stream spaced. This is the only one like this. Out of place and the jump on 00:06:824 (3,1) - is unnecessary and also not even readable at a glance
00:09:744 (1,2) - I am not really understanding why this is hidden behind the slider. It seems like it's like that just to be like that
00:11:758 (3,1,1) - ^ and this doesn't fit rhythmically. Object 2 ends on a white tick and the red basically starts on nothing significant making it hard to predict and also annoying.
00:17:297 (3,6) - there aren't any sounds on these notes.
00:19:210 (4,5) - Unsure why this is spaced out compared to the rest of the doubles in this section

Insane

[Insane]

This is awkward...

00:01:688 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - breaks theme of using only vertical and horizontal movement
00:02:896 (3,4,5,6,1) - ^
00:06:522 (1,2,3,4,1) - Unsure why these aren't 1/4. It's also a bit out of place to be using jumps here instead of streams.
00:08:133 (1,2,3,4) - Awkward to play and a bit unfitting, just stack 3 on 4 and make these doubles instead of just a triple
00:12:161 (1,2,3) - Ctrl+G this. Starting with a slider and ending with two notes is a bit annoying to do and honestly, I would also suggest you to use 5 circles instead
00:13:772 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - space these out from the previous object more due to the swift speed changes on 00:13:369 (3,4) - to this pattern.
00:19:412 (1) - why a reverse slider, use circles and map the second red tick too while you're at it
00:20:217 (1) - First, the 1/8 ends on the white tick. Second, ending a sliderend on a white tick can have the player slip up pretty easily, especially on an insane
00:21:828 (1,2,3) - space these farther from the previous object
00:22:433 (6,7,1,2) - For players of this caliber, the doubles here are not very friendly overall and it would be more suitable to use a simple stream despite it fitting less to the song
00:25:454 (3,4) - not sure why you mapped this as 1/8 when this simiar section is mapped as 1/4 00:24:648 (3,4,5,6,1) -

Bonsai's Hard

[Bonsai's Hard]

This is missing SB hitsounds

00:03:903 (5,6,7) - stack these instead simiar to the pattern used at the very beginning
00:07:730 (8,9) - it's a bit hard to read these especially since this is coming out of a stack and the low AR doesn't help either. Also it would probably fit better to use circles instead

Not much here.

Lasse's Hard

[Lasse's Hard]

Abuse of kiai:

Unsure about its rankability, but there are several 1 second kiai parts that seem to just start and abruptly end overall to fit with the SB hitsounds. This can be considered as an unintended use of kiai and can be a factor into a DQ. Please change this.

00:07:327 -
00:13:772 -
00:20:217 -

Other things:

00:10:348 (4) - this is the only 1/4 slider in the whole map. Use a triple instead to be consistent.

MrSergio's Advanced

[MrSergio's Advanced]

New Combo's

From 00:20:217 - to the end, the NCing seems kind of random. There's no real sense of logic behind them and feel random as a result. You may want to redo this section instead as you have a lot of sliderends ending on downbeats and it just feels strange to play overall.

00:21:224 (1) -
00:22:231 (1) -
00:23:440 (1) -
00:24:648 (1) -
00:25:454 (1) -

Other things:

00:05:514 (3) - should stack on object 2

The rest of the difficulties are fine.

Bonsai

1,212 posts

Joined July 2011

Bonsai 2016-10-02T11:59:48+00:00

ktgster wrote:
Bonsai's Hard
[Bonsai's Hard]

This is missing SB hitsounds I don't even know what hitsounds those are, but I think I'm fine without them lel

00:03:903 (5,6,7) - stack these instead simiar to the pattern used at the very beginning haihai
00:07:730 (8,9) - it's a bit hard to read these especially since this is coming out of a stack and the low AR doesn't help either. Also it would probably fit better to use circles instead Ehh, making them circles too would be rather bland since everything before thatis circles too and I don't wanna change those, also I'm extremely in love with 00:07:730 (8,9,1,2,3,4) bc it kinda resembles railroads, so I'd rather accept people retrying a 30s-map (I don't think any player of that level will sightread-FC it anyways) than changing it bc of readability :/

Not much here.

thx!

diff in a box

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Also I had a random look into your & Irre's diff again, being delighted that 00:19:814 (13,1) isn't stacked anymore, but 1) I don't see why (14) is not stacked anymore as it doesn't seem different or special in any way to me and kinda takes away the emphasis / specialness from the following 1/8-stream, and 2) I don't really understand why you guys extend that 1/8-stream until 00:20:670 (10,1) since there is no 1/8 at (1) anymore making it overmapped and it seems quite unintuitive to play to me, why not end it on the white tick and have five spaced 1/4s there?

Lasse

Beatmap Nominator

3,596 posts

Joined June 2011

Lasse 2016-10-02T12:06:35+00:00

The horns are no sb hitsounds, they are simple additions I used when hitsounding my diff, so all diffs that copied my hitsounding probably have them lol.
I think they fit with the other noises and train sounds at those spots.
So do the kiais I put on the corresponding sliders, don't think they are an issue at all, kiai is used to make them stand out more.
I'll check that 1/4 slider thing on Monday or Tuesday when I'm back home

Stjpa

886 posts

Joined July 2013

Topic Starter

Stjpa 2016-10-02T15:24:52+00:00

@Hydrocannon13: Only changed that slider suggestion thingy. That 1/4 gap thing you mentioned was a simple misread from yourself as I have plenty of such patterns in the map.

ktgster wrote:
Insane
[Insane]

This is awkward...

00:01:688 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - breaks theme of using only vertical and horizontal movement On purpose though. They are the first objects so I thought making it a little different would be cooler, which is also why it's a perfect circle and not just a curved stream. Hard to explain tbh.
00:02:896 (3,4,5,6,1) - ^ Changed those though.
00:06:522 (1,2,3,4,1) - Unsure why these aren't 1/4. It's also a bit out of place to be using jumps here instead of streams. I was against it as the music is quite different there than usual, but did some changes there.
00:08:133 (1,2,3,4) - Awkward to play and a bit unfitting, just stack 3 on 4 and make these doubles instead of just a triple Well I changed this pattern based on the previous mod, but should more comfortable to play now anyway.
00:12:161 (1,2,3) - Ctrl+G this. Starting with a slider and ending with two notes is a bit annoying to do and honestly, I would also suggest you to use 5 circles instead It used to be like you suggested, but like this it follows the music (or more like vocals) way better, so I keep it for now.
00:13:772 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - space these out from the previous object more due to the swift speed changes on 00:13:369 (3,4) - to this pattern. Spaced them out a little more but still less than usual triplets because it feels way too hard then.
00:19:412 (1) - why a reverse slider, use circles and map the second red tick too while you're at it It's mapped like all the other similar sounds, I don't see a problem there.
00:20:217 (1) - First, the 1/8 ends on the white tick. Second, ending a sliderend on a white tick can have the player slip up pretty easily, especially on an insane I'm aware that the 1/8 ends on the white tick, but having a 1/8 gap between a sliderend and a circle is just a pain in the ass, so I keep a 1/4 gap to make the playability smoother (and the missing 1/8 is not really audible as well).
00:21:828 (1,2,3) - space these farther from the previous object Oops didn't realize they are inconsistent lol.
00:22:433 (6,7,1,2) - For players of this caliber, the doubles here are not very friendly overall and it would be more suitable to use a simple stream despite it fitting less to the song Changed it differently.
00:25:454 (3,4) - not sure why you mapped this as 1/8 when this simiar section is mapped as 1/4 00:24:648 (3,4,5,6,1) - They are actually quite different, but when checking it I realized that I mapped the 1/8 wrongly, so it should be correct now.

Thanks a lot for the mods.

Lasse

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Lasse 2016-10-04T17:41:01+00:00

https://0paste.com/9267.txt

ktg:
removed that last 1/4 slider, missed it when I applied oko's mod

Feb

1,027 posts

Joined June 2014

Feb 2016-10-09T08:56:36+00:00

Okorin wrote:
i think you asked me to mod this or something?????? lol i am didn't reply but it seems i wrote a answer on my old pc, so the diff looks already more like i added ur suggestions. uhh anyway...

[feb]
ar 9 would be the absolute maximum i would put on a diff with this density and pattern complexity ya
00:20:217 (1) - pls wiggle at a constant speed the thing you're doing currently is mapping intestines +
00:03:702 (1,2,3,4,1) - rhythm in this would be way clearer if 00:03:803 (2) - was a passive rhythm because then melody would me more clearly emphasised i tho this way at first too, however maybe its bcs i suck dick or it plays easier as a 5 stream, meh i leave it like this i think
00:10:248 (2) - blue tick start of this is kind of not suppported by anything, besides i think 00:10:348 - these two 1/4 sounds deserve clicks well it seems i changed it.
00:10:852 - seems way more worth mapping with a sliderhead than the rest since the song actually supports it here following the basic rhythm here, even tho theres a vocal sound on the blue tick dunno.
00:11:960 (1,1) - 1/4 slider + 4 circles would be what the song is doing, the problem i have with this is that 00:12:161 - to 00:12:463 - are all repeated vocal sounds and the one which goes offbeat is the one you have to click changed.
00:17:196 (2,3) - 00:17:599 (5,6) - mapping these out contradicts 1. pacing of the part and the way you followed the melody with 00:14:578 (1,2,3) - making everything unpredictable changed.
00:24:648 (3,4) - you buffered 00:09:341 (1,2) - but not these? kinda unfair. ^
00:26:662 (1,1) - tbh just doing http://puu.sh/rft7m/948585a159.jpg would be way easier to interpret
ya
?_? this diff is like a collection of patterns and like half of these patterns don't really try to follow the song for me so the thing becomes way harder to interpret than what the song suggests changed so much in this diff that it might look confusing to ppl dunno. I still think if it plays out fine thooo :/

@ktgster: 00:06:320 (2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - vocal starts to gets stronger there. How is the jump not readable? it's circular flow :/

rest was either changed earlier by myself or done during oko's mod.

readd sound samples. had to take em off for mod.

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Bearizm

1,213 posts

Joined October 2013

Bearizm 2016-10-20T15:26:51+00:00

Easy

00:10:550 (3) - Slider end missing hitsound?
00:13:772 (3) - ^ & also, you can make it curve the same way like 00:12:967 (2) - so it's consistent with 00:09:744 (2,3) -
00:19:009 (2) - drum htinormal?
00:21:023 (1) - ctrl+h? much smoother movement and makes a nice "blanket"
SPOILER
00:23:037 (3,4) - change it to circle then a slider? the click rhythm feels better that way

Normal

00:17:800 (1,3) - would be better if this was blanket'd

MrSergio

00:08:536 (3) - missing a hitsound on head
00:10:550 (3) - missing a hitsound on tail
00:13:772 (3) - ^
00:20:217 (1) - kinda awkward that this lands at a strong downbeat. land it here maybe 00:20:821 - ?

Lasse

Not much to say... pretty straight forward difficulty.

Bonsai

x I don't understand this enough to be able to judge it, sorry xd. I'm trying, and don't take this as an offense lolz

Insane

same case with Bonsai, I don't really know how to mod maps with exact horizontal/vertical patterns so yea.
00:20:016 - are you going to leave this empty? :c

Feb

00:08:133 (1,2,1,2,1) - you can make this into something like this for better flow and aesthetics imo
SPOILER
00:15:283 (5,1) - this type of jumps in the calm part is probably the hardest sections to get through in the map despite being less intense. I think you shouldn't use these patterns at all because even the intense parts doesn't have stream jumps. Or if you want to use it, use it in the second kiai where it might just be suitable instead of here.

Kyshiro

00:05:112 (2,3,4,5,6) - I don't quite understand the rhythm for this. I'll just assume you're trying to follow the vocal chops or whatever that is. 00:04:910 (1) - you should just change this to a repeat slider and remove 00:05:112 (2) - because it doesn't have anything backing it up. 00:05:212 (3,4,5,6) - is fine because there's the vocal.
00:20:217 - I feel like this kiai spam is unnecessary...
00:25:857 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - idk man.. might be too harsh. this movement is insanely difficult to pull off especially with this CS, no matter who you are or what your rank is. also, what follows up after this is a 1/8 stream burst... x.x

Irredfwygidbfaj

i give up tbh. the real question is, have you gotten any testplays on this? are these kinds of patterns playable with this CS?
00:20:217 - same with kyshiro's, I feel like this kiai spam is unnecessary...

sorry lol I'm bad at this.

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2016-10-23T23:05:43+00:00

Hii! I've adjusted that pattern everyone was pointing out, restacked the stack and the 1/8 stays cuz it's following the vocals. Kiai spam was removed

Yes, I've gotten testplays (MilhioreF, for example), and we've adjusted the diff accordingly. Thanks!

"hi"

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Irreversible

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Irreversible 2016-10-23T23:12:35+00:00

http://puu.sh/rTjCj/1e045dc934.txt

fixed the 1/8 neverthleess

Bonsai

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Bonsai 2016-10-23T23:13:21+00:00

Irreversible wrote:
http://puu.sh/rTjCj/1e045dc934.txt

fixed the 1/8 neverthleess

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

@Bearizm: I guess I'll take that as a compliment lol

Stjpa

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Stjpa 2016-10-26T00:09:18+00:00

Bearizm wrote:
Easy
00:10:550 (3) - Slider end missing hitsound? Adjusted all hitsounds in this diff.
00:13:772 (3) - ^ & also, you can make it curve the same way like 00:12:967 (2) - so it's consistent with 00:09:744 (2,3) -
00:19:009 (2) - drum htinormal?
00:21:023 (1) - ctrl+h? much smoother movement and makes a nice "blanket"
SPOILER
I like how it is, doesn't make a big difference because of the break anyway.
00:23:037 (3,4) - change it to circle then a slider? the click rhythm feels better that way Yes.

Normal
00:17:800 (1,3) - would be better if this was blanket'd How tho. :v

Insane
same case with Bonsai, I don't really know how to mod maps with exact horizontal/vertical patterns so yea.
00:20:016 - are you going to leave this empty? :c For emphasis yup.

Karen

2,860 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 2016-11-15T06:52:15+00:00

m4m as promised in-game

Kyshiro's Extreme

00:15:081 (3) - this note sounds not necessary as you didn't follow this sound in other parts
00:20:419 (5) - reduce the length by 1/8 since 00:20:419 (5,6) - this is really easy to choke, and this wouldn't affect much gameplay
00:25:706 (7) - not a good overmapping choice to me

Feb's Extra

fix tag conflicts
00:21:627 (4) - NC this to make this more readable? also the combo is too long
00:25:051 (5) - consider nc
nice

Bonsai's Hyper

00:03:903 (5,6,7) - i assume you wanted to stack them?
00:13:772 (5) - it's better to make this slider end 00:14:376 - here instead to follow the vocal thing, i can't hear anything on the slider tail

Normal

00:15:786 - add circle here for consistency with 00:19:009 (2) -

nothing to complain on other diffs
gl with this xd

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