1. Kyacchi Ni-Ju Ni (6,31 stars, 1124 notes)

General

sick song about martial arts

sadly, this slider is a burai slider, and is unrankable, even if it looks cool

Spork Lover wrote:

Yo M4M from Scandi discord <3 (IKEA MEATBALLS ARE THE BEST)
(I'll state the obvious things too btw in the mod as a reminder for you) Meatballs are love, Meatballs are life!

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General

02:16:542 - Unrankable inherited points (There's two inherited points on the same spot, which is not allowed)
03:26:459 - Unrankable inherited points (There's, again, two inherited points on the same spot.)

The background resolution is too high (1734x767!) Resize it to 1366x768, 1080x720, or a 16:10 resolution that is smaller than that one lol xd [/color] Fixed

Hitsounds, but you know that lolI'm not the one hitsounding, so that's why it's not done.

Is there a reason why the volume is the exact same for the first 4 minutes? xd Same as above. Only reason I change the volume until the spinner is because I wanted the spinner to get lower and lower since that's basically that the music is doing. The volume on the rest of the map is up to the hitsounder.

Small thing, but about the combo colors, there seems to be a smooth color transition from colors 1-4. But when we get to 5-6 and back to 1, it seems a bit more sudden. Maybe doing a smooth transition like... this (<---) would work? Fixed

You could add a special custom hitsound to the spinner if you want so it's like "long held note in the song ish" lol I hope I make any sense lol good idea i' try to think of something

Full spread or extend the song, 'cause unrankable alone xd Gonna extend it!

sick song about martial arts

00:20:792 (4) - Considering that you're going to do a 1/3 stream here, I would highly advice to make the sliderend clickable and NC that note so it's way easier to spot (You do it consistently so I'm not mentioning it for the other similar ones) Would break what I tried to accomplish by not stacking the first 1/3. It would force the player to a halt, to then full speed ahead again due to the spacing of the 1/3's which would imo play worse.

01:07:625 (2,4,5) - Because of the vocals, I'd make both a reverse slider tbh Fixed

01:20:459 (4) - Like before, nothing really indicates a 1/3 in the spacing, so it becomes really hard to sightread/predict, which doesn't look like is your intention considering the map is really flowy and straight forward. You could change some angle to make the 1/3 a bit more noticeable if you didn't do the clickable thing. Same reasoning as earlier

01:30:125 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I think the end part of this 1/3 stream would look a LOT better like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6072297 (10 blankets the stream) Fixed

01:42:292 (4) - Because of the different pitch in the song, a ctrl+G on this would be cool (or SOME other aesthetic, doesn't necessarily have to be a ctrl+G) (Could even be 2 singletaps or something lol fixed

01:43:542 (9,10,1,2,3) - This overlap seems too complex for what the map is tbh xd (If you don't wanna remove the overlap completely, make it the same as 01:49:292 (1,2,3,1,2) -. They are the same?

02:14:292 (2,4,5) - Same thing as in the first chorus. (Vocals consistency = 2 reverses yadda yadda lol) Fixed

02:27:792 (5) - sadly, this slider is a burai slider, and is unrankable, even if it looks cool Fixed

02:43:792 (5) - I think you should add an NC here, because the HP will drain pretty hard with HR if you fuck up the kickslider section before the long slider. fixed

03:02:459 (5) - Same with this one fixed

03:07:625 (8,1,2) - Seems like a tough transition because of the stream angle, but I need to play that part to make sure lol I personally find it easy to play, I might just be weird

03:08:958 (7) - The vocals start here I would be skipping the drum hits if i did that which isn't the intention, the whole slow slider following the vocals used to be a a SUPER spaced stream instead but people whined about it not fitting, and that adding a slow slider at the exact point would be better.

03:12:125 (8,9) - I'd buff the spacing on this a bit instead of the blanket tbh because this chorus start is really intense Fixed

03:18:292 (2,4,5) - You know the drill lol Fixed

03:26:459 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Can you give an explanation as to why this is 1/3? (1/8 or 1/2 is more fitting if you're trying to apply a more "sudden" beat) Uhh I dont quite understand what you mean

03:39:625 (2,4,5) - Hi Fixed

03:50:458 (9) - I'd HIGHLY recommend NC'ing this because another stream is coming up (also remove the NC on 03:50:625 (1) - ) Fixed

03:51:125 (1,2,3,4) - You're so rude xD (If you want it to be less rude but higher spacing, you COULD ctrl+g 03:51:459 (3,4) - , but I expect you to deny this xd I made a compromise, so it's no longer a pure square

03:53:125 (1) - I hate to say that this is unrankable too, 'cause it's so fucking cool Fixed

About the 1/3's, there's nothing wrong about them, but expect those to be the choke points in the song.
It's a really cool map, I fucking hate that the burai sliders are unrankable but meh what can you do xd Well that in itself was kinda the point, the 1/3s are intense, which requires a high spacing that by default will be harder to hit.

Good luck <3 Thanks!

Spork Lover wrote:

You didn't add the metadata LINK that had the ACTUAL name on it mate xD http://www.toysfactory.co.jp/artist/bab ... disco/1553 Just paste in the link in the desc xd
https://gyazo.com/8a3c602b72c80914d9412643d4e06ccf <--- that's the part that we need

lazyboy007 wrote:

Gday m8 I'm definitely not here for NM

00:00:367 (1) - this is fun af to see :p Uuh,I don't know if that's good or bad
00:39:569 (4) - this ends on the first beat of the measure, which isn't an issue, but i feel like you should NC 00:39:985 (5) - instead of 00:40:235 (1) - as a consequence fixed
00:43:902 (1) - you can getter better blanketting if you do this S shape with a red tick in the middle I find S-shapes with red anchors to be way uglier than just without so that's why i never use it. Shouldn't be a rankable issue either so i'll keep it as it is.

something along these lines (yeah i know mine is ugly but if you tweak it it gets better)

00:44:902 (4) - same story as two above (applias to a few other patterns later in the map too) fixed
00:54:569 (4) - this should be an NC, first beat of a measure fixed
01:00:569 (6) - you're ignoring a snare in the middle, looks on purpose though so i'll just point it out :p (since you did it a few times later I guess it's fine but still that snare's relatively strong) Yea it's on purpose. Mapping the vocals solely and decided that the snare isnt as important as the rythm i was going for. 1/2 and next time its a stream and repeat. I like the structure and find it fun to play.
02:51:902 (1) - rip burai sliders, 2016-2016 Rip in piece my old friend
The end gets a little repetitive, so I suggest mapping the "oh-oh" of the vocals, break the repetitiveness a bit That means I would have to end the long slider before that section on a different beat, since now it lines up with the piano. But I decided to map both at the same time instead.
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Also, I may have missed some stuff as I'm not used to mapping high difficulty maps. Also, most of what I pointed out repeats a few times in the map, and I have nothing else to add ^^ It's fine, you found some NC issues which is a big help since i hate to check that myself.

Great map doe, hope you get it approved.

Liiraye wrote:

http://puu.sh/rlNaM/d805b71325.txt

did a mod during a skype call, didnt write all of it in irc

might do this another time too

Akali wrote:

m4m

General

128kbps is sort of meh quality but I understand this is extended and edited out. If you have audacity/fl project file still, maybe export in higher quality, if it would require doing the edit again don't bother Fixed

I see this is not hitsounded, use higher volume on average though (65% at least) + I wouldn't reccomend drum set on everything, Hitsounding will be done by someone else as soon as that person feel motivated enough, so it will eventually be fixed.


osu!

00:09:783 (1,1,1) - this doesn't sounds like 3 circles material at all, especially a stack that's totally undreadable on hidden (irregular rhythm) make it one slider that turns when the sound hits or something I don't think a long slider fixes it either, so I ended the spinner on the first note, 1/2 slider on the next two notes and started the spinner on the last. Should be a good enough compromise.

00:11:283 (1) - same for this tbh, just start spinner earlier, it's hard to time without rhythmical context of any sort and with sounds being so feint Fixed

00:28:902 - if you decide to follow kick - snare in this stanza should map this Fixed

00:39:569 (4) - I think it would be ok to make this slider 1/2 (there is a hihat on red tick so the end wouldn't be overmapped) just for the sake of starting 00:39:902 - triple here and making it clickable, not passive. Could make 3/4 slider with muted end but that plays a bit awkward I see where you're coming from and I would agree if the map wasn't intentionally going for the passive start of the triples. It's also consistently like that throughout the map so ultimately it should be fine.

00:44:902 (4) - similar thing here, a bit different because it's 1/3, but I don't think this helps readability at all. +sound on redtick again so 1/2 slider would be fine Tried this on the first version of the map but ended up not liking it at all, it didnt fit with how the prior sliders are done consistently and broke the structure.

00:57:235 (1) - can be 1/4 repeat, guitar djents 3 times here Fixed

01:00:569 (6) - would be better as 1/2 for the reason like before + vocals don't last for that long (syllables are short and sort of "rapped") so would fit them better too, also 01:00:735 - is quite audible. Rest time isn't an issue and there is no real long and standing out 1/1 sound to make those, slidertick is too passive and not enough to represent music here It's the last "rap" of the vocal sentence with a break before the next vocal section starts. The 1/1 slider is there to be overly explicit of that pause.

01:03:235 (4) - like before, just feels weak and kills rhythmical flow of the song on this part ^ and to make the section more rythmically complex when it's one of the middle ground intense parts of the song would make it feel overly done imo.

01:05:902 (6) - 01:08:569 (6) - ^

01:44:569 (4) - like before, 01:45:013 (5,6) - would feel better if first of the sequence wasn't passive. if you don't want to change this, NC 01:45:013 (5) - NC'd, so fixed

01:48:902 (4) - ^

01:54:235 (4) - 01:54:235 (4) - ^

01:59:569 (4,5,1) - you mapped this without using a slider before, would do the same here Fixed

02:06:402 (4) - should be 2 notes Fixed, but it may have ended up being too gimmicky.

02:09:736 (5,6,7,8,9) - weird ds change, sounds are the same keep it consistent Fixed

02:10:402 (2,3,4) - a bit different spot than before, but would use 3/4 here Wouldn't accomplish much if you view the map as a whole, the passive start of the triple is as intentional as the others.

02:15:069 (5,6,7,8,9) - like before, it doesn't make sense Fixed

02:21:569 (5) - could use 1/2 but vocal is longer here so understandable Either one works as you said. Gonna keep it as it is for now.

02:26:569 (1) - pretty hard to hit and maintain control on stream (it's in the corner too) , don't think music is hype enough at this point to put it so far away Fixed it by changing the spacing of the three notes beforehand, should now be easier to hit.

03:02:235 (1) - remove NC (you don't do this later and doesn't help much reading in any way) Wasn't supposed to be a NC, fixed.

03:17:235 - skipping some mappable 1/4s in this section, return sliders would be nice for variety but it's ok 1/4's were ignored since I thought they would add unnecessary complexity to such a slow and relaxing part of the song. Might check into it later though.

03:44:402 (1,2,3) - turn the stacking on and move to 316:212, 323:219 with stacking off Fixed on all choruses so that it's also consistent.

04:11:902 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this really seems like an overkill for what's happening in the music (it's kinda epic crescendo but on the other hand it's pretty chill) + doesn't fit the maps structure, even if you can play rest of the song comfortably well this might be a failing point. I would say to keep 04:12:569 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - spacing throughout the stream and increase it on 04:14:735 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - and 04:15:902 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - as drums play differently. -The vocals are chill, but the stream isn't following the vocals at all. The intensity of the guitar, and the extreme pitch really begs for extreme spacing imo. Have had some playtesters even fc it sightread with hidden, which I didnt even expect would be possible except for the top of the top. So playability-wise it's fine, and the thoughtprocess behind why it is like it is should be enough to justify it. Also tbf all other longer streams throughout the map that is before or after the chorus are all similar to eachother. How the spacing changes, the sharp turns etc, so it's a consistent trend in the map. First stream of the entire map is a good example. And I would never dumb down something for the sole reason of making it easer, ever. I find that to be a flawed way of mapping. It is the most intense part of the entire song, it's reflected by being the most difficult part. If it fits, it sticks.

04:17:235 (1) - this is too much offgrid (http://puu.sh/rtZLv.jpg shouldn't go further than this sliderbody) + initial direction after super spaced stream (if you decide to keep it) is awkward to play especially with SV change, at least make it follow the streams direction OR make it sharp, 90 degrees is the worst possible one. Fixed the slider being out of bounds by moving the entire stream. Ended up with a less sharp angle as well, which makes the stream flow nicer into the last slider.

gl Thanks! Solid mod, appreciate it a lot!

Kite wrote:

SPOILER

10:23 Kite: okay
10:29 Kite: first of all i think you need a slidertick hitsound
10:29 Kite: the regular one is too obnoxious
10:29 Kite: especially since you go with tickrate 2
10:30 Hysteria: tickrate can be changed, it's only 2 since it's easier to make fancy sliders for me by using the tick in the middle of the slider for judging distance n shizz
10:30 Kite: nah i think it fits
10:30 Hysteria: aigh
10:31 Kite: 00:37:902 (6,7) - this is underwhelming
10:31 Kite: could either make a slight speed up or higher spacing on them
10:31 Hysteria: and Gowo is boss over hitsounding on it when he get's motivated enough
10:31 Hysteria: can increase spacing of
10:31 Hysteria: 00:38:235 (7) -
10:32 Kite: 00:43:235 (6,7) - this is better compared to before
10:33 Hysteria: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6227703
10:33 Hysteria: would this be any better?
10:34 Hysteria: still low spacing
10:34 Hysteria: but intentional awkward movement makes it equally difficult as the later one
10:34 Kite: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6227707
10:34 Kite: maybe this
10:35 Hysteria: combo 6 slider end isn't blanket by combo 5
10:35 Hysteria: D:
10:36 Kite: 01:26:402 (2,3) - ctrl g and move 01:26:902 (5) - to x469 y192
10:38 Hysteria: You sure? That would make it quite repetetive due to how the next pattern looks like
10:38 Kite: 01:45:013 (5) - x319 y40 01:45:124 (6) - x223 y74 cuz right now it feels too jagged to play comfortably
10:38 Hysteria: would basically be the same movement twice in a row
10:38 Kite: yea atm it feels sorta stiff to play and the sharp angle from 4 to 5 is weird
10:40 Hysteria: hmm
10:40 Kite: 02:06:402 (4) - should probably make 2 1/8 sliders here to keep it consistent to the sound
10:41 Kite: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6227738
10:42 Hysteria: Yea Akali pointed that out too, but I didnt agree with changing it to two active objects solely bcs it adds too much complexity for what it is
10:42 Kite: 02:41:069 (6) - should move this further away, feels cramped especially for what you are mapping to
10:43 Kite: idk it just sticks out because there are 2 sounds that land on the slider
10:43 Kite: compared to the rest where its only one
10:45 Hysteria: Yea, but they are all mapped to the guitar tbf
10:45 Hysteria: so even tho it's a snare on the last one
10:45 Hysteria: it follows the patter of the rest
10:46 Hysteria: while changing it up due to the increase in pitch
10:46 Hysteria: on the guitar
10:46 Hysteria: should be fine imo
10:46 Kite: thats all

Naxess wrote:

No hitsounds, so can't mod them.

GoldenWolf wrote:

Naxess wrote:

No hitsounds, so can't mod them.

Not YET.

cough

Naxess wrote:

Saw this on the offline #modreqs thread
Some people from the Scandinavian discord server have wanted me to mod this as well, so thought I'd address some issues shortly.

General

1. The song folder is exceeding 10 MB, and this is not recommended for maps without storyboards or videos. This is mostly because of the bitrate on your mp3.
   
   
   1. Your audio bitrate is too high. Bitrates should be within a range of 128 kbps and 192 kbps, this is for the sake of filesize and also partly to respect the composer of the song due to the way distribution works. I think what Akali meant was that you should use 192 kbps instead if possible. Consider compressing it or finding another version with a more fitting bitrate. Otherwise I could compress it for you if the need arises. Fixed
      

      Ranking Criteria - Audio wrote:

      The song's audio file must be of reasonable quality. Try and source mp3 files yourself; ripping them from a streaming video site often results in low quality audio with high file sizes. The bitrate of a beatmap's audio file must be no lower than 128kbps and no higher than 192kbps. If you are having trouble acquiring an appropriate audio file, contact one of the more audio-savvy BN; they will be more than happy to help find an mp3 for you.

2. Your usage of kiai is not rankable. Refer to 02:50:485 - . You'll notice a lot of on and offs in a very short interval of time. It was more of an experiment and I knew it was unrankable due to the fountain-spam. It is now fixed in a way that should keep it rankable, while still keeping the idea.
   

   Ranking Criteria - General wrote:

   Do not overuse kiai time. The general rule of thumb is one toggle per minute of playtime. Kiai is meant to accent chorus sections, so don't use it just for fountains unless you're doing this rarely. You can toggle kiai off and back on halfway through the chorus if it fits, but using it constantly every few beats/measures is just ridiculous and can distract players.

   
   
   
3. Your tags can be expanded upon slightly. Fixed
   
   
   1. resistance (album is "METAL RESISTANCE", but you already have metal in your tags)
   2. j-pop kawaii (genre) sources: wikipedia, biography, kawaii metal
4. Perhaps you could clarify where you got some of your tags from, for example "yuyouppe". Then add them to your metadata box in the description.
   Some additional official sources you could add are http://www.babymetal.com/home/ and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvD3CHA48pA Fixed
   
   
5. You must hitsound your map. This is for the sake of audio feedback to the player. Simply using hit-normals for everything won't do. Add some claps, whistles and finishes where they fit. If you need help with hitsounding, consider asking someone to hitsound it for you.
   

   Ranking Criteria - Audio wrote:

   You must use hitsounds. Without these, things get way too monotonous as you are throwing away one of the main elements of variation present in mapping. You don't need to place them on every note (and are discouraged from doing so), but they must at least be frequently heard when playing.

   
   

   Hysteria wrote:

   Hitsounding will be done by someone else as soon as that person feel motivated enough, so it will eventually be fixed.

   This must be addressed before you call BNs, and preferably as soon as possible so people can mod them. This is on it's way of being done. GoldenWolf is starting to realize that hitsounding is soon the last thing on the chopping block, and hopefully that will be enough to motivate him to finish it.
   
   
   
6. I'd have silenced the sliderslide with a blank 44 byte wav file in order to prevent it from disrupting the song at any point.Will be fixed when hitsounding is getting done.

Kyacchi Ni-Ju Ni

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  Hit Objects

1. Consider reducing the volume on your timing sections to match the song's own volume. This is to ensure that nothing disrupts the song itself too much, especially if a part of the song is very quiet. The beginning, 00:00:771 - , is really quiet for example, but your volume is still quite high. Things like sliderticks and sliderslides can really destroy the mood that the song is trying to bring forth. I've suggested you to silence the sliderslides. Then for sliderticks, reduce the volume to 5%. Do not silence sliderticks with blank wav files as well, because it's unrankable. Only one of the two can be completely silenced. Will be fixed when hitsounding is getting done.
   
   
2. There are many NCs I feel are a bit unnecessary. Keep in mind that this is a 6 SR difficulty, not an insane of 4 stars. Players at this skill level would likely be able to handle most streams fine without an additional NC every 4 notes. This applies to most streams where this occurs throughout the map.
   
   An example would be 00:54:902 (1) - and 00:55:234 (1) - . Consider removing these two and NCing 00:55:069 - instead in order to follow the guitar as well. This way there are more circles for each combo and things would be somewhat more pleasant to look at. Do the same for 00:56:236 (1,1) - 00:56:402 - etc.
   I'll just NC every two snare's instead of all of them, should fix the issue.
   
   
3. 02:32:902 (1,2,3,4) - Right-angle jumps like these are generally very awkward to snap to due to the circular acceleration it causes. Try sharpening some of the angles and avoid going above 70 or 80 degree angles. Fixed by CTRL+G 3 & 4
   
   
4. 03:33:902 (1,2,3,4) - These jumps are a bit too large in my opinion. It would better reflect this transition is they were spaced less, since there are no beats, and then when the beats kick in the spacing would be larger in comparison. Would emphasize things nicely I think. Dissagree, due to how the buildup is done the vocals are the final part before the chorus. Just by being a part of the buildup warrants a bigger spacing especially since it's the last beats in the buildup itself. I see your point though and it's reasonable to do that normally, but I feel like it wouldn't end up making it any better than it is now./color]
   
   
5. 04:38:548 - This pattern has been going for quite a while and... 04:49:193 - This is not normal. The song shouldn't be this repetitive. It's very likely that the mp3 has been edited to reach above 5 minutes like this, and it's really noticeable. There's even inherited sections where parts were pasted together.
   
   I'm aware that making your map over 5 minutes might be hard, but please, don't ruin the playing experience and overall quality as sacrifice to it. Get someone to edit the mp3 in a way that doesn't make parts overly repetitive, and preferably without another inherited section. You're very likely going to have to remap the part after 04:23:902 - , but it'll be well worth it to improve the quality of the mapset, as long as the mp3 is cut well.
   It's most definitely easier said than done, but for the sake of your mapset, do all that you can to make it the best it can be.
   
   To the person doing the editing, try using the sound at 02:51:902 - to fade out of the inevitable slow-down from 04:17:235 - in order to speed up the song for just a bit longer. Then, right before the beat at 03:13:235 - , or some place around 03:07:902 - , fade (will probably need a bit more editing here though to make it sound smooth, assuming you went with the beat part) into the part that was copied previously, 04:38:548 - , but only one instance of it, not three. Follow it up with the fade out at 04:59:859 - . After that it's pretty much done. Try to make sure you cut with the exact BPM positions to avoid having to use more inherited sections. I believe one of the BNs has a tutorial on how to do this in Audacity.
   
   
   
6. 05:05:193 - Stop the spinner here. It's time to stop. It doesn't reflect the music at all by spinning 400 spins per minute to complete silence. Even without editing the mp3, you can still cut here to have above 5 minutes of drain time.Fixed, but to be completely fair the guitar is still going on in the background if you blast 100% volume!
   
   
7. 05:07:859 - Silence the end of the spinner. Basically make it the regular soft sampleset and just reduce volume to 5%.

Fixed

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  Hitsounds

1. No hitsounds, so can't mod them. *Cough cough blame Gowo cough cough*

Good luck! Thanks!