15:47 Monstrata: you're not following main melody in the intro huh
15:47 Irreversible: Where?
15:47 Monstrata: 00:01:772 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - etc..
15:48 Monstrata: 00:02:356 - vs 00:04:499 -
15:48 Irreversible: I think i followed whatever was like in the background
15:48 Monstrata: one's clickableone isnt
15:48 Irreversible: with the
15:48 Irreversible: uhm
15:48 Irreversible: foreground thing keeping in mind
15:48 Irreversible: Yeah, like
15:49 Irreversible: Lol, you hear that foreground noise right
15:49 Irreversible: which gets higher and higher
15:49 Monstrata: yep
15:49 Irreversible: I felt like if I followed it all the time, it really wouldn't emphasize it enough
15:49 Irreversible: when it's actually outstanding
15:49 Monstrata: 00:07:421 (2,1,2) - what about parts like here then
15:49 Irreversible: lead in to new part
15:49 Monstrata: where you're missing audible uh 00:07:713 - 1/4's
15:50 Monstrata: 00:07:226 (1,2) - like, these two sliders follow really different sounds if you consider their primary layer (like what's most noticeable)
15:50 Irreversible: don't you think it's really weird to have continous 1/4 if you can make a better transition between parts to keep some variation?
15:50 Irreversible: That's true actually
15:50 Monstrata: yea. but well
15:51 Monstrata: i need to raise these just in case xD
15:51 Monstrata: cuz legit this is what i got from quaver haha
15:51 Irreversible: I actually want to change that one
15:51 Monstrata: ok
15:51 Irreversible: as it makes no sense
15:51 Irreversible: musically
15:51 Irreversible: 00:07:216 (1) - is something
15:51 Irreversible: 00:07:411 (2) - is smth else
15:51 Irreversible: but i've made it as one pattern which is .. wrooong
15:51 Monstrata: 00:12:681 (3,1) - another would be here, maybe using streams instead since the main melody is the highest here
15:51 Monstrata: ye
15:52 Irreversible: 00:12:671 (3,1,2) - I think that one makes sense though
15:52 Irreversible: as it follows the most noticable thing entirely
15:53 Monstrata: hm
15:53 Irreversible: maybe the nc can be changed
15:53 Monstrata: yea
15:53 Irreversible: to make it more .. logical
15:53 Irreversible: done!
15:53 Monstrata: but just curious, would you consider that a reasonable enough explanation if it were in a dq post or something?
15:53 Monstrata: xd
15:54 Monstrata: like "rhythm makes sense since it follows the most noticeable layer"
15:54 Monstrata: or something like that
15:54 Monstrata: im just curious cuz maybe i can stop writing essays xD
15:54 Irreversible: I think you should explain it differently
15:54 Irreversible: wait
15:54 Irreversible: 00:01:762 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - this is let's call it A
15:55 Irreversible: 00:03:320 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this is B, but B has another transition than A 00:04:489 (3,4) - compare this)
15:55 Monstrata:
p/5429879 i had to write all that to basically say "i dont want a stream here" xD
15:55 Irreversible: then we go back to rhythm A
15:55 Irreversible: 00:04:878 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) -
15:55 Monstrata: ok
15:55 Irreversible: 00:06:437 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - then rhythm C
15:55 Irreversible: because transition
15:55 Irreversible: A B A C
15:55 Irreversible: you can maybe explain it with rhythm.. and variation..
16:00 Monstrata: ye lp
16:01 Irreversible: fixed the first one btw
16:01 Irreversible: don't even want to see how much the sr skyrocketed
16:01 Monstrata: btw 00:05:278 (1,2) - NC
16:01 Irreversible: oh well 7,93
16:01 Monstrata: is this n ecessary?
16:01 Monstrata: the NC' rhythm differs
16:01 Monstrata: 00:01:772 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - like
16:01 Monstrata: it becomes every white tick insteadoof every two
16:03 Monstrata: 00:41:122 (3,7) - symmetry kinda got messed up here, fix stack
16:04 Irreversible: fixed the ncs
16:04 Monstrata: okay
16:04 Irreversible: fixed symmetry
16:05 Monstrata: 00:52:616 (2) - what do you think of Ctrl+G'ing this. I think having the slider going leftward flows better since you'll be moving more to the right of the screen
16:05 Monstrata: so the angle going into the pentagon stream isn't as sharp too
16:06 Irreversible: cool
16:06 Irreversible: 00:52:800 (1) - gives a nice flow change too
16:07 Monstrata: ye
16:08 Monstrata: 00:59:823 (5) - doesn't really feel emphasized
16:08 Monstrata: idk i was thinking:
http://puu.sh/r4DEi.jpg16:09 Monstrata: putting it in the center to emphasize using angle change
16:10 Irreversible: thinking
16:11 Irreversible: gotta be a bit careful because this cs is deadly already
16:11 Monstrata: yea
16:11 Irreversible: maybe 379 139
16:12 Irreversible: (which is ctrl g of current position)
16:12 Monstrata: o that could work too
16:12 Irreversible: ...........
16:12 Irreversible: Q_Q?
16:12 Irreversible: i'm sad
16:12 Irreversible: i just changed 1 note -> 8.05 sv
16:13 Irreversible: 01:00:008 (1,2) - i think i have to change this now
16:13 Irreversible: because gaining speed from this is impossible
16:13 Irreversible: and probably plays bad
16:13 Monstrata: m
16:13 Monstrata: yea
16:13 Monstrata: xd
16:13 Monstrata: damn lol
16:16 Irreversible: I'll talk with kyshiro about it
16:16 Monstrata: ok
16:16 Irreversible: and see and let you know
16:16 Monstrata: i'll uh
16:16 Irreversible: Because I think an antijump isn't so good here
16:16 Monstrata: write down stuff for kyshiro's stuff then
16:16 Monstrata: in forums
16:16 Irreversible: ok!
16:24 Irreversible: thx for helping out btw o.o i bet u got loads o' request
16:24 Irreversible: s
16:25 Monstrata: 00:31:177 (1,2) - blankets off
16:25 Monstrata: Extreme
16:25 Monstrata: wait who did which parts
16:25 Irreversible: could you also post it?
16:26 Monstrata: 00:50:658 (1) - random NC
16:26 Monstrata: sure sure
16:26 Monstrata: i'll just mention the obvious stuff
16:26 Monstrata: here
16:26 Monstrata: and other stuff in forums
16:28 Irreversible: ahh ok
16:28 Monstrata: okay
16:28 Monstrata: Extra
16:28 Monstrata: 00:13:839 (1,2,3) - this felt kinda uh... simple idk
16:28 Monstrata: i guess its fine, but didnt you emphasize this on higher diffs
16:29 Monstrata: 00:39:164 (1,1) - blankets kinda off
16:30 Irreversible: 00:15:842 - never that much tbh
16:30 Irreversible: at least not my parts; will declare them after
16:30 Irreversible: fixed the other 2 things btw
16:30 Irreversible: kinda fixed
16:31 Monstrata: okay Extra's pretty good
16:35 Monstrata: Hard
16:35 Monstrata: 00:34:878 (2,3) - Personally, I thin kthe overlap here just doesn't look nice lol
16:35 Monstrata: Like, slider-border overlaps in general trigger me tho xD
16:36 Monstrata: I think a simple blanket would be cleaner
16:36 Monstrata: 00:43:645 (1,3) - these two sliders aren't actually symmetrical btw
16:37 Monstrata: 00:43:645 (1) - You have to Ctrl+G sliders like these twice, before flipping them
16:37 Irreversible: done
16:37 Monstrata: that way the slider-notes get reduced to their lowest possible settings
16:37 Monstrata: 00:48:515 (1,2,1,2) - felt quite empty tbh xP
16:37 Irreversible: ohhh
16:37 Irreversible: thanks for letting me know that
16:37 Irreversible: LOL i was wondering why it's always stupid
16:37 Monstrata: ye xD
16:37 Monstrata: Ctrl+G x2 works wonders xD
16:38 Monstrata: 01:01:762 (3,4) - I don't think this rhythm is appropriate for Hard xP. doublet rhythms are legit so difficult to catch tbh xP
16:39 Monstrata: okay rest is good
16:39 Irreversible: fixed all
16:39 Monstrata: okay
16:39 Monstrata: howd you fix the empty thing
16:39 Monstrata: added more stuff?
16:40 Irreversible: yea
16:40 Irreversible: XD
16:40 Monstrata: okay xD
16:40 Monstrata: Normal
16:40 Irreversible: how else would you fix emptyness
16:40 Monstrata: 00:06:437 (1,3) - This just seems hard to read hmm..
16:40 Monstrata: but ehh its not a slider-end overlap so i think it might still be okay
16:41 Irreversible: or maybe the people are just too weak?
16:41 Irreversible: no one knows....
16:41 Irreversible: loljk lemme check
16:41 Irreversible: hmm..
16:41 Irreversible: Yeah i tried not to use that stuff in easy
16:42 Monstrata: its a bit shady but im okay with it
16:42 Monstrata: 01:02:541 (1,2,3) - spacing between sliders is pretty uneven
16:42 Monstrata: talking about those blankets xD
16:42 Monstrata: 01:07:216 (1,2,3) - Here too
16:42 Irreversible: fix
16:43 Monstrata: Easy
16:43 Irreversible: fixed both*
16:43 Monstrata: Why are SV's so low wat
16:43 Monstrata: why do you have SV changes from 0.50 to 1.00x
16:43 Monstrata: xdd
16:43 Irreversible: uhm
16:43 Monstrata: 00:36:242 (1,1) - not enough recovery time xd
16:43 Irreversible: lagg
16:43 *Irreversible runs far
16:43 Irreversible: OMFG
16:44 Irreversible: DAT BAD JOKE
16:44 Irreversible: I HAD 308 BPM FIRST AND THERE IT WAS OK
16:44 Irreversible: ....................
16:44 Irreversible: god bless
16:44 Monstrata: tbh even if it was 308 bpm
16:44 Irreversible: hahaha noooo
16:44 Monstrata: it would have been too low xD
16:44 Irreversible: rly?
16:44 Irreversible: i thought 4 beats
16:44 Monstrata: yea
16:44 Monstrata: well, uh
16:44 Monstrata: it depends
16:44 Irreversible: where to pend it
16:44 Irreversible: end
16:44 Monstrata: for example, if it were 75 bpm, you wouldn't need 4 beats right?
16:44 Monstrata: it could be 2 beats
16:46 Monstrata:
http://puu.sh/r4FGc.png16:46 Monstrata: we're reworking that cuz "bars" is incorrect
16:46 Monstrata: but yea
16:46 Monstrata: <120 bpm "2 beats" is fine
16:46 Irreversible: makes sense
16:46 Irreversible: :3
16:46 Monstrata: yea
16:47 Irreversible: altho i think like
16:47 Irreversible: 120 to 240 is quite much
16:47 Monstrata: general rule of thumb is 1500 ms for Easy 750 ms for Normal, which just converts pretty well to 4 / 2 beats
16:47 Irreversible: maybe i would already change it at like 180 lol idk
16:47 Monstrata: yea ;P its a pretty big range
16:47 Monstrata: mmhmm
16:47 Irreversible: or 200
16:47 Irreversible: anyway, somehow changed
16:47 Monstrata: kk
16:47 Monstrata: 00:55:528 (2,1) - blanket is off
16:48 Monstrata: 01:02:541 (1) - can you make this even, and less of a bump? It feels a bit scruched up for an Easy slider
16:48 Irreversible: ya
16:48 Monstrata: 01:07:216 (1,2) - i think you should use a 3/2 repeating slider instead... those sliders like barely follow the layer you wanted to follow
16:48 Monstrata: cuz 1/2 on Easy is taboo ;c
16:50 Monstrata: okay, uh fix the SV pls, xd
16:50 Monstrata: and thats all
16:50 Monstrata: o wait
16:50 Monstrata: HP 6.3 on Hard is too high
16:50 Monstrata: HP 5 pls
16:50 Monstrata: Also you can use AR 7.5 i think, or increase the Insane's AR
16:50 Monstrata: actually increase Insane's AR
16:51 Monstrata: since you use a lot of 1/4's
16:51 Monstrata: AR 8.5 - AR 9 is a better range
16:51 Monstrata: okay
16:51 Irreversible: dat settings ?_?
16:51 Monstrata: update after the rest is fixed i'll post logs and mods for kyshiro's stuff
16:51 Monstrata: lol
16:52 Irreversible: ar 7
16:52 Irreversible: for hard o.o
16:52 Irreversible: hmm
16:52 Monstrata: AR 7 is okay too i think
16:52 Irreversible: yeah that should be fine
16:52 Monstrata: Hard doesn't use a lot of 1/4's
16:52 Monstrata: assuming you fixed that single 1/4 doublet
16:52 Monstrata: k
16:52 Irreversible: yea
16:53 Irreversible: about easy
16:53 Irreversible: need to change the sv? because look
16:53 Irreversible: it's not a sudden slowdown
16:53 Monstrata: Insane can still use a buff in AR tho
16:53 Irreversible: i've always put a spinner between it
16:53 Irreversible: I personally think that would be ok but
16:53 Irreversible: yeah i buffed it
16:53 Monstrata: i think you can at least make the range smaller because
16:54 Monstrata: like the thing about sliders on easy is that people make a reference of slider length like if slider is this length, then its a 1/2 slider etc...
16:55 Monstrata: but SV's make it so you can't clearly tell what the slider is, and changing SV's means players have to keep changing their defnition of slider-length
16:55 Monstrata: its why i think SV changes on low diffs aren't good... but if you want to keep, then at least don't make the range like
16:55 Monstrata: 0.50 > 1.00 cuz that's literally doubling slider length xP
16:55 Irreversible: yeah i'll make 0.67
16:55 Irreversible: everywhere
16:55 Monstrata: that might be a bit slow
16:55 Monstrata: nvm
16:55 Monstrata: thats fine
16:56 Irreversible: it's pretty fast
16:56 Monstrata: yea i forgot your base SV on Easy was 1.04 xD
16:56 Monstrata: thought it was like 0.7 or something