r u god
이미 꽉참Cellina wrote:
님 아기낳고싶은데 겟난 만들어도됨?
01:08 Momoka: moddingおねがいなのです
01:08 Sylphi: np
01:08 Momoka: ・んp
01:08 Momoka: 으잌
01:08 *Momoka is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1074378 KOTOKO - Koi Kou Enishi]
01:09 Sylphi: 노답님 맵은 잡을거 별로 없어서
01:11 Sylphi: 왜 AR 8.5죠?
01:12 Momoka: ar10 ㄱ?
01:12 Sylphi: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
01:12 Momoka: ar 8하기엔
01:12 Momoka: bpm 이 좀 빠르고
01:12 Momoka: 9하기엔 느려서
01:12 Momoka: 좀더 낮추는게 좋나
01:13 Sylphi: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6192890 아뇨 그대로 해도 상관은 없어보여요
01:14 Momoka: ㄹㅇ?
01:15 Sylphi: 영어는 그닥 자신없으니 IRC로 Insane만 모딩 ㄱ?
01:15 Momoka: ㄱ?
01:16 Sylphi: 일단 soft-hitnormal.wav 파일 5ms 딜레이 있어요
01:18 Sylphi: 그리고 soft-sliderslide2.wav 안쓰는 파일
01:18 Momoka: 아니
01:18 Momoka: audacity 삭제했는데 흠.
01:21 Sylphi: 01:14:601 (7,8,1,2) - 흐름 좀 미묘해요
01:22 Sylphi: 솔직히 2번 위치 좀더 아래쪽에 있어야 할것 같은 느낌이 강한
01:22 Momoka: 이거 메뉴얼 스택 못하게 바꿧나?
01:23 Momoka: 아 다음 노트가 겹쳐있어서 스택 됬군..
01:24 Momoka: 더 내렸음
01:25 Sylphi: 00:34:184 (3,4,5,6) - 이거 전체적인 패턴 느낌으로는 그닥 어울리는 것 같진 않은데
01:25 Sylphi: 이건 극히 개인적인 거라...
01:25 Momoka: 흠
01:25 Momoka: 왜죠?
01:26 Sylphi: 5 -> 6으로 이동하는 각도라던가, 거리가 좀 맘에 안듬
01:27 Momoka: 흠
01:27 Sylphi: 268, 184쪽으로 옮겨보는건 어떰?
01:27 Momoka: ㅇㅋ
01:28 Sylphi: 01:25:226 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - 이거에 대해서 말입니다만
01:29 Momoka: 네
01:29 Sylphi: 2,3,4랑 1,2,3이랑 힛사 지워보고 들어보니까 음은 비슷한것 같은데, 힛사가 다른데엔 이유가 있나요?
01:29 Momoka: 실수임 xd
01:30 Momoka: 어쩐지 저부분 뭔가 소리가 이상했음 매번
01:30 Sylphi: ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
01:32 Sylphi: 01:32:726 (1) - 여기 뉴콤보 있는 특별한 이유가 있는건가요?
01:33 Momoka: xd
01:33 Momoka: 뺏음
01:33 Momoka: 오랜만에 매핑해서 자잘자잘한 미스가 많네
01:33 Sylphi: 나머지는 다 괜찮은것 같네요
01:34 Momoka: ㄹㅇ?
01:34 Sylphi: 있다고 해도 가끔 자잘한게 몇개 있는 정도라
01:34 Momoka: 쿠도스 받고 오버워치각
01:34 Sylphi: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
overall I using unfamiliar movement like your point.HallidayASR wrote:
A M4M as you requested in #modreqsBeom's Normal00:06:476 (1,2,3) -
Not necessarily wrong, but I would move 00:07:309 (3) - to the left so It could flow like this:
00:23:351 (1,2,3) - Again, I recommend a flow like this
00:39:809 (1,2,3) - And same here xD But these are just suggestions, as I said, I dont think it's wrong, the choice is up to you c:
00:47:518 (3,4,1) - Hey, I think it does fit here! So if you take my previous advice, don't do it in this one case.
00:55:018 (1,2) - Imperfect blanket... Just improve it ;D
01:27:101 - 01:26:684 - I think those are some really notorious white tick you are missing, feels very empty, I suggest placing a rhytm there, maybe this?
(Not so hard and fits with your mapping) yes, this is really good point. but I have no idea about this for now. I need more suggestions about this
But that wouldn't give the player a chance to recover from the spinners D: Idk, Find a way to make it work xD
01:28:142 (1,2,3) - Same, I would make this flow like:
01:39:809 (1,2,3) - Maybe like this instead? :O ok :O
Good luck!
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[XV] wrote:
Insane
- You can make a better build up here, 01:20:018 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - Reducing the jumps here 01:20:018 (1,2) - and increasing DS a bit here 01:21:268 (5,6) - and here 01:22:101 (2,3,4) - is one way to do it, but I'll leave the creativity to you :3 ill try
fixed all the general stuff. thanks[C u r i] wrote:
[Insane]
01:31:268 (6,1) - 두개 ds조금 벌리는건 어떨까요 01:31:059 (5,6) - 이거에 비해 상대적으로 작아서 팔로우가 자연스럽지 않은거같음 흠.. 전 ㄱㅊ다고 봄
제 모딩력은 여기까지..
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Whirl wrote:
hey tehre
[insane]
00:07:726 (5,6,7,1,2,3) - wouldn't it make sense if (1) (2) and (3) had more spacing as the pitch rises? i don't really care about minor things
00:43:351 (1) - I can see that the middle anchor is barely doing anything, kind of weird for it to be there imo, by barely doing anything I mean that if you were to remove it, it wouldn't make much of a difference, almost no difference to the naked eye if it doesnt make any difference anyway, why bother
00:51:684 (1,2,3) - I think spacing should be consistent here, these isn't anything to emphasize so why increase spacing? it's a pattern
00:54:809 (4,1) - sorry, but I would suggest fixing this blanket NAZI i think it's fine
00:58:768 (3,2) - I would suggest putting (3) on the anchor of (2) for consistency reasons don't really want to do that
for a map thats being bubbled, there isn't much to say, also you probably are going to deny lots of this
[C u r i] wrote:
[Beom's Normal]
00:07:309 (3,4) - 이렇게 바꿔보는건 어떨까요 지금은 뭔가 흐름이 끊긴다는 느낌이 든다는 동선같아요 원래 제가 이런거 안쓰는건 말 안해도 아실테지만 빈도를 보시면 제가 어울린다고 생각해서 썼다는걸 아실 수 있을 거 같아요. 그런 이유에서 고치진 않겠습니다00:11:268 (4) - 커브 넣어보는건 어떨까요 00:11:268 (4,1) - 서로 좌우 대칭느낌 나게끔 지금이 더 좋은 거 같네요
00:12:309 (2) - DS체크 이미 0.81x로 크게 벗어나지 않았습니다.
00:26:893 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 열차가 조금 길다고 생각되는데 1/1슬라 몇개를 노트로 바꾸는건 어떨까요?
00:48:143 (4,1) - 외관상으로 별로 좋지 못한 흐름이라고 생각했습니다. 00:48:351 (1) - 이걸 조금 아래로 내리는건 어떨까요?
01:02:934 (4) - 01:02:934 - 이부분을 노트로 바꾸고 01:03:351 - 여기서 슬라이더를 시작하는건 어떨까요? 굿포인트 같은 부분도 같이 바꿨습니다
맵전체적으로 열차가 조금 길게 이어진다는 느낌을 적지않게 받았는데 중간중간에 조금 끊는게 좋을거 같아 보이네요 열차에 대해서는 밑에서 설명하겠습니다.
제 모딩력은 여기까지..
W h i t e wrote:
디스코드는 위대했다.
[범산님 노말]굳럭!
- 01:23:351 (1,1) - 스핀보다는 슬라이더로 하시는게 어떨까요? 흰 틱에 노트가 없는 것이어색해도 너무 어색해서... 스피너 다 지우고 노트좀 넣었습니다. 슬라이더 모양을 잘 못내서 결국 3점 ㅠㅠ
- 맵에 큰 문제는 없습니다.
다만 클랩, 휘슬 같은 힛사가 안 찍혀있고, 기차가 긴 것들이 꽤나 많은 것 같습니다.
저는 머 쥐뿔도 없지만 한 스타일같은걸 고집하지는 않고 곡에 따라서 많이 바뀌는데, 이 곡 같은 경우엔 통통거리는 배경음이 저한테 인상이 깊었고, 그래서 패턴적으로 변화를 준다 그런건 좀 부적절해보였고 리듬을 적극 활용해서 맵을 만들자는 그런 설계가 있었습니다.Sonnyc wrote:
~ Beom's Normal ~
- 01:23:351 (1,1) - 더블 스피너는 각 스피너 마다의 길이도 짧거니와 낮은 난이도일수록 유저들이 반응이 탁월하지 못한 경우가 많아서 권장하지 않는 편입니다. 노말 난이도인만큼 단일 스피너로 처리하는건 어떨까요?
- 01:25:018 (1,1) - 느끼고 계시는지 모르겠습니다만 현재 01:26:684의 강렬한 음을 표현하지 않은 상태로 스피너와 다음 노트로의 전환이 일어나서 연결이 상당히 부자연스럽습니다. 일단 스피너를 저 강한 음까지 늘려주시고, 회복 시간을 위해서 01:27:309 (1,2)를 아예 지우는게 연결상으로는 훨씬 매끄러워질거라고 봅니다. 처음엔 단일 스피너였는데 그 것도 지금 생각해보니 별로같아서 스피너 지우고 노트 몇 개 추가했습니다.
- 힛사 추가해주시고
- 전반적으로 랭크 가능 그 이상은 아닌거 같은 느낌이었습니다. 주로 흐름 위주로 디자인되어있어서 표현된 패턴들이 많지 않다고 느껴져서 그랬던 것 같습니다. 배치를 흐름 따라서만 하는 것에서 더 나아가 노트들이 패턴감을 형성할 수 있게 패턴 짜는 연습해보시면 나쁘지 않을 듯 하네요. 유사한 이야기가 될 것 같습니다만 가령 01:38:143 (1,2,3,4,5)의 경우 음악이 두드러지게 달랐음에도 다른 부분들과 큰 차이가 없어서 큰 감흥이 없었네요. 이게 제 생각에는 기차패턴 지적이랑 일맥상통하는 부분이라고 생각되네요. 다음부터는 그런 부분들 생각하면서 해보겠습니다.
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cute remMei wrote:
metadata ->nsfw video, click at your own risk.Karen wrote:
metadata?
I
00:17:309 (3,4) - this 3/4 rhythm sounds weird, the music here sounds consistent with 00:13:976 (4) - so you'd better make it 1/2 or 1/1 i think I was trying to emphasize the snare here 00:17:726 (4) -
01:00:434 (2,7) - you can make the stack better :3 ok :333
nothing to mod orz
yay thanks :3//Karen wrote:
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