Tia - The Glory Days · forum

Sonnyc

Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2016-09-25T16:54:46+00:00

Replies:
-- To start with the mapping style itself.. Close spacing & fast slider velocity is one mapping meta, but something that isn't normally used these days. Perhaps it's because there are way too many players that are adapted to wide spacing mapping metas along their tablets, but anyways the way I made is clearly an existing method. As it exists, there will be players who would be familiar with this, and players who are unfamiliar with this. Perhaps those who are unfamiliar will feel it awkward, but I only see that as an other sort of a difficulty of the beatmap regardless of quality.
-- 01:14:931 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I think this pattern would be one of the most controversial element in this difficulty. First of all, the rhythms are based on the high background instrument sound. Maybe some would be curious why the first part of the stream is much wider than the second part. It's because of the weight of the sound that I felt. The first part is mainly consisted of high instruments and gave me a light feeling. Not sure if this is the right term, but something like a glissando on the piano was what I wanted here. Then the second part of the stream is along a drum which has a heavier feeling. That's why the movement gets dense, and having a close spacing. At least I'd want to make sure this wasn't an overmap. The appearance itself will be similar with 01:17:703 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8), but I feel the approach rate is clearly different. Maybe there could be more opinion regarding that.
-- 01:17:703 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - It may feel like this pattern is ignoring several elements in the song, and I can partially agree that the transition from the vocal to drums at 01:18:192 (5) could be done in another way. But the concept I wanted to bring here was a little break. Indeed players who aren't familiar to close spacings will confront some difficulties dealing this pattern, but anyways technically this is an easy pattern and actually is at least for me. Why? It was a relative interval to give a bigger emphasis on the slider speed ups on 01:18:844 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,1). If you compare with the first section of the kiai, you'll notice the composition of the map is a little different. The difficulty on the first part is made by wide notes of 01:09:714 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) while the same section is done differently as a speed up slider. This variation was done due to the song being a cut version, and because I wanted to express diverse feelings of mine. Then are these notes not expressing anything..? Well, at least they are forming a 33 degree rotation pattern along the song.

Replied only ones that I felt worth mentioning. Let me know if there are additional replies you want to hear.

Fixed:
-- Added C:1 at 01:26:670
-- Changed cs to 4.5 since I found it possible enough, and that it expresses the map better.

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태그에 제 이름 넣어주시고,, 콤보3이 좀 어두워서 BG랑 어울리려나 모르겠네요.

Len

2,812 posts

Joined June 2012

Len 2016-10-04T09:10:29+00:00

i talked with sonnyc and mapsets creator about patterns in sonnycs.
gj

Beomsan

1,878 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Beomsan 2016-10-04T10:50:07+00:00

crazy

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2016-10-06T06:24:38+00:00

안녕~~As requested by Len

[General]

Can you make spinner consistent at the beginning? It will look better.

[Normal]

00:22:594 (1) - cancel NC.
00:44:931 - so lazy not to map this part...come on this is just tv size, and all other diffs mapped here. I think you need to map it.
One way is actually to place notes on 00:47:540 - 00:50:149 - 00:52:757 - and put sth from 00:54:388 - .
00:43:627 (1,3) - switch NC
01:13:790 - 01:14:116 - 01:15:747 - 01:16:073 - should be mapped as a Normal. It's just too easy now with 1/1 and the beats are ignored.

[Hard]

OD5.5
00:41:018 (1,2) - give them a small overlap. You stack to indicate 1/1 gap before, the stack here is really confusing tbh. Try 00:43:953 (2,3) - .
01:00:828 - 01:02:132 - why not map them? There're noticable sounds.
01:15:910 - slider ends here may be better

[Dailycare's Insane]

00:46:562 (1,1) - more than half of reverse slider was overlapped,this would be considered as unrankable...pls fix it by changing shape to a normal one.
01:10:040 (2) - ctrl+G? then the sudden raise in vocal can be emphasised by 01:10:040 (2,3) -

[Down]

00:18:192 (4,5) - small overlap to cause less confusion.
00:38:980 (5) - delete this note,it's unnecessary.

[Sonnyc]

00:53:247 (4,5) - seems a bit messy imo.
I'm ok with the stream...the community may be not (x

[Glory]

01:04:497 (1) - how about using a slider as the previous one?that will be much better imo. spinner is too blank lol
01:17:214 (3,4,1) - increase spacing here.it's kiai and too easy compared to the rest..
01:24:714 (1) - cancel NC
So similar to Nara's diff...lol

Call me back.

Beomsan

1,878 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Beomsan 2016-10-06T08:59:43+00:00

sahuang wrote:
안녕~~As requested by Len

[General]
Can you make spinner consistent at the beginning? It will look better. I was thinking the same thing. but I want to keep 00:03:192 - this start point so I've given up spinner xd

[Normal]
00:22:594 (1) - cancel NC.
00:44:931 - so lazy not to map this part...come on this is just tv size, and all other diffs mapped here. I think you need to map it.
One way is actually to place notes on 00:47:540 - 00:50:149 - 00:52:757 - and put sth from 00:54:388 - . now is fine? idk well lmao
00:43:627 (1,3) - switch NC
01:13:790 - 01:14:116 - 01:15:747 - 01:16:073 - should be mapped as a Normal. It's just too easy now with 1/1 and the beats are ignored. remapped kiai part.

[Glory]
01:04:497 (1) - how about using a slider as the previous one?that will be much better imo. spinner is too blank lol spinner also fine imo xd
01:17:214 (3,4,1) - increase spacing here.it's kiai and too easy compared to the rest..
01:24:714 (1) - cancel NC I think it's fine. 01:24:062 (1) - 01:24:714 (1) - this two part is distinct from vocal.
So similar to Nara's diff...lol seriously? :::(((( lol

Call me back.

Sonnyc

7,753 posts

Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2016-10-06T11:16:14+00:00

sahuang wrote:
[Sonnyc]
00:53:247 (4,5) - seems a bit messy imo. // Perhaps, but I wanted to use the same slider shape with the intro at these parts. 00:07:105 (3) - 00:48:518 (5) - and 00:06:453 (2) - 00:53:736 (5) for personal structure reasons. Fixed 00:54:388 (1,2,3) instead which felt more messier x,x
I'm ok with the stream...the community may be not (x

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Sonnyc 2016-10-06T11:42:27+00:00

아 글고 델케님 인센 관련해서

00:24:062 (1,2,3) - 00:26:670 (1,2,3) - 00:29:279 (1,2,3) - 00:31:888 (1) - 뭐 마지막 껀 그렇다 쳐도, 앞의 패턴들은 전부 120도 삼단 회전 패턴을 사용한 3/2 슬라들인데 어떤거는 틱이 인게임중에 보이고 어떤건 안보여서 조금 완성도가 낮아보이네요. 차라리 00:26:670 (1,2,3) 슬라 배속을 좀더 느리게 하는 한이 있더라도 다 통일된 설정을 유지하는게 더 퀄리티가 높을듯 합니다.
00:46:562 (1) - 00:49:171 (1) - 일단 슬라 자체는 리버스 화살표가 보여서 랭커블합니다만 이런 고곡률 리버스 슬라의 사용은 사실 재고해보시길 바랍니다. 우선 이런 식으로 짧은 슬라이더의 곡률을 매우 높게 가져간 경우, 화면에서 확인 가능하시겠지만 곡선 슬라임에도 불구하고 테두리가 울퉁불퉁하다는 점을 보실 수 있을 겁니다. 이거랑 더불어서 앞에 언급했듯이 리버스랑 숫자 (1)이랑 너무 많이 겹쳐서 시각적으로도 탁월하지는 않고.. 여러모로 득보다는 실이 많다고 생각되는 슬라이더였습니다.

Down

Featured Artist

643 posts

Joined July 2014

Down 2016-10-06T13:30:21+00:00

sahuang wrote:
안녕~~As requested by Len

[Down]
00:18:192 (4,5) - small overlap to cause less confusion. Fixed.
00:38:980 (5) - delete this note,it's unnecessary. Yes, 00:38:980 (5) - this sound is very weak, but I want to keep it for playability. If removed, it would be more confusing imo..

Call me back.

Thanks!!
http://puu.sh/rzEgC/17173c5ebe.zip

Dailycare

Beatmap Nominator

1,071 posts

Joined May 2012

Dailycare 2016-10-06T13:57:13+00:00

sahuang wrote:
[Hard]
OD5.5 k
00:41:018 (1,2) - give them a small overlap. You stack to indicate 1/1 gap before, the stack here is really confusing tbh. Try 00:43:953 (2,3) - . did it
01:00:828 - 01:02:132 - why not map them? There're noticable sounds. for emphasizing 01:00:583 - 01:01:236 - those sounds and diff spread
01:15:910 - slider ends here may be better k.. only i and w h i t e didn't want to map 01:15:910 - :p

[Dailycare's Insane]
00:46:562 (1,1) - more than half of reverse slider was overlapped,this would be considered as unrankable...pls fix it by changing shape to a normal one. kk
01:10:040 (2) - ctrl+G? then the sudden raise in vocal can be emphasised by 01:10:040 (2,3) - i just changed placements of those 1,2,3

I replied to Sonnyc via irc, thanks for mods~

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