1. The End - 4Key (2.58 stars, 1546 notes)

Hydria wrote:

The End

General Note: interesting LN endings, gl getting those through BNs and make sure to pay attention to PR overall, also, some of my mod might conflict with itself, just choose whatever you feel best

00:06:621 (6621|1,6934|2,7246|3) - and any other following 3-note angelic sound should prob be 2/3 LNs instead of just single notes I feel - I want the focus on the long notes 00:11:309 (11309|2), I might change it if others feel the same way as you

00:21:621 (21621|3,21934|2,22246|1) - 1/2/3 instead? - I agree

00:28:184 (28184|2) - 1 for PR along with 00:30:059 (30059|3) - ^

00:32:871 (32871|3,32871|1,33184|2,33184|0,33496|0,33496|1) - should be increasing? - I want the increase here 01:00:059 (60059|1), since it really changes here

00:33:809 (33809|2,34746|0) - switch? same 00:36:621 (36621|3,36621|1,36934|2,36934|0,37246|0,37246|1) - Fixed

00:45:059 (45059|1,45996|0) - again PR - ^

00:47:871 (47871|2,47871|0,48184|2,48184|1,48496|1,48496|0) - [12][13][23] (PR) - ^

00:56:621 (56621|2,56934|0,57246|2,57559|1,57871|0,58184|2,58496|1,58809|0,59121|2,59434|1,59746|0) - literally all declining when should be going up - See previous comments regarding increasing

01:41:309 (101309|2,102090|1) - what's this LN switch? - Who knows

01:43:652 - to 01:44:121 - this LN section feels weird, should prob match the LN behind it - Not going to add LN's, but I did fix the SV's

01:53:184 (113184|3,113340|2) - jack? Yes

02:03:496 (123496|1) - two different LNs because pitch shift? - I see where you're going, but switching would be really awkward. Unless someone finds a good alternative, I'm keeping it

02:04:590 (124590|3) - should start 1/3 later (end in same place) - Blame auto-snap

02:06:777 (126777|2,126934|1) - move up 1/3 - ^

02:15:059 (135059|3,135840|1,135996|2) - switch for PR? same 02:18:809 (138809|2,139746|1) - 02:30:059 (150059|1,150996|2,150996|0) -

02:35:996 (155996|2,156309|1,156621|2,156934|0,157246|2) - should prob all be LNs - Mmh, they're all very short, I'll think about it

02:45:059 (165059|3,165059|2,165059|1,165996|2,165996|1,165996|0,166934|1,166934|3,166934|2,167871|2,167871|1,167871|0,168809|0,168809|2,168809|3) - this hurts my PR soul (same for the other 3 note chords in this section) - Seems fine by me

02:49:746 (169746|3,169746|1,170059|0,170059|2,170371|3,170371|1) - music is declining whilst these are going up

with that mini LN you could prob put a note 02:52:246 - Eeeeeeehhhhh, I think it's fine as is

03:04:746 (184746|2,184746|0,185059|3,185059|1,185371|2,185371|0) - wrong way - 03:03:809 (183809|3,184746|0,185059|1,185371|2,185684|3) seems fine by me

03:15:059 - the note on the 3rd column consistently can actually cause mindblocks quite quickly - I just noticed that's a really gay anchor, I might change it (the sound is really repetative anyways)

03:34:277 (214277|3,214277|0,214277|2,214434|1) - I feel like these should start 1/2 bar earlier, it feels weird showing up on an offtick - Then they would be snapped wrong, not gonna do that

03:43:184 - I just played this bit on 6 speeds lower than usual and most of these SVs just don't really do anything visually - I'm not sure if it's an issue, I just have it because SV-tools

03:59:590 (239590|0,239590|2,239590|3,239746|1,239902|0,239902|3) - I feel like this section would play 10,000x better if the SVs weren't there - :( Maybe Evening can help me with these SV's

04:15:059 - until 04:45:059 - more or less needs a remap, this part really sticks out compared to the rest of the map, and is just a really unnecessary difficulty spike, considering that people playing at 2.84* will barely be able to do 85bpm jacks, prob want to just keep it in a JS fashion imo - Artifact of the tourney I made this map for, made it easier

05:08:105 (308105|1) - 2 different syllables = 2 different LNs - It changes, like, 3 times or something. I'll change it if needed

Protastic101 wrote:

*format edit boop*

[General]

1. Drum-hitfinish has some unnecessary silence at the end, so here's a fix http://puu.sh/uCUQL.wav
2. Bit of a delay to the start of Normal-hitclap. Fix http://puu.sh/uCV5b.wav
3. Soft-hitwhistle is super quiet and makes it really hard to hear over the hitnormal, so I increased the volume by quite a bit http://puu.sh/uCVGB.wav
4. Why OD 9? The chart isn't difficult at all and it's not like there are any mashable bursts that might make accuracy more of a challenge. I would use 8 instead

Wew, fixed, OD is a remnant of the original file, fixed as well

[Hitsounds]
00:00:059 (59|0,3809|0,7559|0,11309|0,15059|3,18809|0,22559|0,26309|3,30059|1) - And so on. I don't think using the default normal-hitnormal here sounds that good with the music imo. It's kind of annoying to hear a pretty loud drum hit. Imo, I'd just stick to using the soft-hitnormal here instead
00:45:059 (45059|3) - If you don't do the above, at least set this to the soft sampleset cause there's two hitnormals here and aaaa
00:53:965 (53965|1) - random normal-hitnormal imo
01:45:059 - Seriously, I would recommend just using something that sounds a bit softer for the normal-hitnormal, like a tambourine or something. The section here is so quiet and focused on the vocals, then you add this loud drum hit like noooooo, stop
03:13:184 - Set this SV's volume to 40% to have a consistent sample vol for the finishes (see 01:43:184 - , where the finishes added to a total vol of 40%)
03:15:059 - Increase volume to 20% here as it's too quiet just using 10%
03:29:590 - use a green line to set the volume to 40% to make it consistent with the rest of the double finishes
03:29:746 - change it back to 20% here
03:33:809 (213809|0,213809|1) - Set to drum sampleset
03:34:277 - it's so louddddddddddd
03:50:059 (230059|2,230215|3,230215|0,230371|1) - Inconsistent volumes with the rest of the section because there's less notes being hitsounded here, so the first note is 20%, then the jump plays at 40%, and the single note plays at 20% again and aaaaa
03:55:684 (235684|1,235840|3,235840|0,235996|2) - ^
04:14:590 (254590|2) - Double hitsound, remove whistle
04:15:527 (255527|1,256465|2,257402|1,258340|2) - and so on. These need to be at double their current volume in order to be consistent with the jumps at 04:15:996 (255996|0,255996|3,256934|0,256934|3,257871|0,257871|3) - and their volume
Currently reset HS to 40% softl, will redo

[Chart]
00:11:309 (11309|2,13184|1) - Imo, would be better to switch hands so that the first LN is in 2 and the second LN in 3 - Fixed
00:15:996 (15996|1,16309|2,16934|2,17559|2) - Similarly, I think it would be easier to play if you isolated the different patterns onto different hands, so LN in 3 and short notes in 2? - ^
00:32:871 (32871|3,32871|1,33184|2,33184|0,33496|0,33496|1) - Shouldn't these be single notes since the notes in the beginning at 00:06:621 (6621|1,6934|2,7246|3) - were singles too? The intensity of the sound doesn't seem to have increased so I don't see a reason for making them into jumps now -Double because the music is more "intense" here. You can hear the 1/6 snaps, plus I want to break up the repetition
00:40:371 (40371|2,40371|0,40684|1,40684|3,40996|2,40996|3) - Similarly ^ - ^
01:00:684 (60684|0,60684|2) - Don't see why you put the emphasis on the 1/3 after the downbeat. - 01:00:059 (60059|1) - You can hear the filter being removed at this note, therefore I add more emphasis
01:00:059 - I think you're missing a note here for the downbeat. - Whoops
01:08:496 - Imo, I don't really think you should suddenly start adding jumps every 2/3 since there hasn't been a clear change from the music to indicate a change in the structure of the map yet. I'd wait to increase the note density at 01:15:059 - instead - See previous comment
01:15:059 - Going off the above, the music is building but you dropped note density here instead, which is like ??? ??? because all you've done is add an LN, but the section is still easier than the previous one. - Due to the vocals being introduced, and the difficulty of the map, I don't want streams combined with LN's (plus I kinda feel like this section is the eye of the storm, with the vocals and everything)
01:43:496 - Lord help us on these SVs. This is unreadable imo, because the player's probably expecting a speed up here since you used a slower SV at 01:43:184 - . If you want to average the SV to be 1x, then the value at 01:43:496 - should be 2.4x. Buttttt, that's pretty unreadable imo, so what I would do is this instead

1. 01:43:184 - 01:43:652 - 1.3x
2. 01:43:496 - 01:43:965 - .4x
3. 01:44:121 - 01:44:277 - 01:44:434 - 1.5x
4. 01:44:199 - 01:44:355 - 01:44:512 - .5x
5. 01:44:590 - 1x

- MY PRECIOUS SV's D:
02:00:996 (120996|0) - I would make this an LN since it's part of the vocal. - But, 02:00:059 (120059|3,120996|0,121934|1) , bell?
02:00:840 (120840|3) - I would also end this at 02:01:934 - and add another note there in 3 for the piano, so that the LN ends are capped. - I hate this, but I have to, due to the difficulty of the map ;w;
02:23:184 (143184|1) - Move this to 4 since it's the same pitch as 02:23:340 (143340|3) - 1/3 minijacks '_>'
02:33:965 (153965|2) - I don't see why you wouldn't end this at 02:34:746 - for a clean cap - Because clean caps are not anti-meta
02:43:184 - For this, to represent the gliss of the synth, I think it would be better to overlap a lot of the LNs, like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7530275 - Thank you very much! I've been struggling how to recreate the gliss with the LN's, perfect!
02:45:059 - In this section, I feel like using quads is overdoing it because the sounds aren't even that emphasized. It's only the synth here, so imo, just using jumps would be fine, hands at most. Doing that would allow you to connect the ending of the LNs like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7530299 - But, that destroys the jumps AND makes it awkward to play, so no
02:58:184 - And to add to the above, you stop using quads here and Im confused as to how you're supposed to be chording this *sobs* - Wew, nice consistency Chrono!
03:29:121 - 03:29:434 - Since there are two low kick sounds here, I'd make these jumps, like so http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7530309 - Thank youuuu, another sound I couldn't quite figure out!
02:52:207 - Why are the SVs here 1/4 when the Svs have all been in 1/3 or 1/6? -
02:52:090 (172090|3) - The sound this note is for feels really short, so I think using a simple short note would be better for it. - With the fixed SV, it works
03:52:090 - 03:52:324 - 03:52:559 - SV here feels redundant cause there's no pause in the synth or anything to warrant a jump between notes here. And since you haven't used SVs like this for the entire time that you've had the triple spam - There's a gritty sound, plus the LN's disconnect, hence I put it there. I might remove it if players feel the same way (if it's too "random")
04:00:293 - 04:01:230 - 04:02:168 - and so on. I don't think having an SV sequence end before the LNs do is a good idea. Rather, I'd put them at 04:00:371 - 04:01:309 - 04:02:246 - and so on, and make the value 2.8 to average to a 1x SV - Remnants of the original file, fixed, but different
03:43:184 - Don't really get the point of these gradually speeding SVs. I would just leave it at one value and then use a bump right at 03:44:434 - or so, then go from there. - Just for style, shouldn't be an ranking issue, right?
03:44:590 - As for this, I would try using a glitchy kind of effect here that averages to 1x. So stuff like this

1. 03:44:590 - 03:44:746 - 03:44:902 - .5
2. 03:44:668 - 03:44:824 - 03:44:980 - 1.5x
3. 03:45:059 - 1x

03:59:590 (239590|3) - Fixed these as well with previous SV suggestion

Pretty much everything beyond that is kind of a repeat of what I've said already. Imo, this map isn't ready for rank yet. Tbh, it feels like you tried too hard to make this map something unique, and you could, but the song choice just doesn't give you that much to work with, so you end up doing stuff that just doesn't make sense in the context of the music.