1. Malefaction (6.47 stars, 1354 notes)

-Mo- wrote:

Hello, M4M thing.

Edgy Temporary Diff Name That I Have No Suggestions For
- 00:38:994 (1) - You might aswell end this slider of the downbeat (large white tick) since there is a significant beat there and there's no reason not to map it. Mistake, i put a note tho
- 00:45:467 (7,8) - You could extend the spacing between these since there's no reason to reduce spacing as the intensity is still constant. fixed
- 01:58:888 (1,2) - This might possibly be confusing since this has similar spacing to 01:58:573 (2,3) but the timing is different, and there is fairly little lead in from the music to suggest the music is about to slow down. It should be fine to increase this spacing a bit. I think its fine, i might wait for more opinions on it
- 02:00:151 (5,6,7) - No need to reduce the spacing here in my opinion. fixed
- 02:08:046 (1,1,1) - These NCs aren't necessary. mistake
- 02:17:362 (2) - Ideally, when you do one of these stream corners, the beat that's directly on the corner should be a significant beat in the music (Like you would a NC), since it makes more sense for the player to add more input and change direction on a stronger beat. There is nothing in the music to support having the corner on this beat, so it would be better if it was on the 1 just before it. I dont even know why i did that
- 02:41:836 (6,7) - This spacing doesn't make sense since 7 is a pretty strong beat, but the spacing is really small compared to the rest of the combo. fixed
- 02:53:994 (4,5) - Similar thing here, this combo has constant intensity so you don't need to reduce the spacing. fixed
- 03:05:599 (2,4) - I feel like a stream isn't necessary here since there is little in the music supporting a stream, and feels like an overmap considering the beats you are trying to prioritise for this section. replaced with sliders
- 03:18:467 (1) - If you stick with the theme you're going here, you should make this a triple to make it follow the rhythm better. fixed
- 03:20:362 (5) - I would suggest keeping this at one repeat and adding a circle at the end, since that is what the play usually expects and allows mapping of the white tick to an active beat for better emphasis. fixed
- 03:37:415 (1) - I wouldn't recommend using 1/2 double repeat sliders like this since the player has very little time to read the second reverse arrow making this awkward to play. ill keep it, this entire section is supposed to be very very very awkward to play.
- 04:20:835 (1) - Having a single note combo in the middle of a stream doesn't really make sense technically. Nice attempt at making it look interesting with combo colours, but I would personally put technicality over aesthetics. I did that to make them even but I didnt realize that both sides are 7 without the 1, fixed
- 04:22:887 - Missing this beat doesn't seem appropriate since there's a significant bass beat here. all 4 incidents fixed
- 04:27:940 - Same thing here.
- 04:38:045 - And here.
- 04:39:624 (2) - 04:40:571 (6) - 04:40:887 (7) - I would NC these so that the sudden SV changes are a little easlier to read and follow. good call
- 04:41:677 (4) - I would place this at around 28:144 for a better flow since 2-3-4 currently makes a fairly wide angle with differing spacing that could be awkward for players to follow. I dont know about that but ill do it
- 04:58:256 - Missing beat thing.

Good luck.

Nherantelon wrote:

well from you mod queue^^
Im not the best modder but i hope my contribution will be useful

General Suggestions

Ive little things that disturb me :

1. Ist hard to read, perhars increase AR ? its supposed to be really hard to read.
2. CS3 ? Okay but combined to the low AR (low ar 9.3 lol) and the fast rythm, im not convinced :/ raised to 9.8
3. Diff name = TimeLapse (or Nheran's TimeLapse because i am) ?

Edgy Diff Name

00:00:152 (1) : the slider end should be more rounded, it'll look nicer it bends to the music
00:10:257 (1) : same
00:18:783 (6, 1) : personnaly i would put a circle here and put a slider from 00:18:941 to 00:19:257; but its my opinion : the music begin slowly and the (1) breaks a little bit the calm this part follows the melody and the melody alone.
00:42:309 (3) : the slider is useless, its put there like if you want to pitch up the diff :/ its the same thing as putting a triple for no reason, this part isnt particularly interesting so adding triples keeps the player engaged.
00:45:783 (8) : same, and you can put the NC there instead of the next note
00:49:888 (5) : same but i wont point all the note i think^^
00:48:152 (7, 1) : however this pattern looks nice
01:00:625 (8, 9) : a repeater should be better because (9) isnt really in the flow (there is a note in the music, but i feel its agains the flow) it flows perfectly, its following the pattern of every note before it
01:15:625 (5, 1) : you should align it better all fixed
01:19:099 (2, 3) : same
01:20:678 (5, 6) : same [btw i discover clicking the time, i can copy it^^]
02:17:757 (1, 1, 1, ...) : its nicer to play when reapeater repeat twice (hard to explain : when you have 2 arrows) after a stream. You could also make a longer stream because your map has the SR for it^^ the map doesnt have the audio for a longer stream, after the stream the beats become more obvious and the breaks are more silent, so you need to use sliders to avoid overmapping.
02:21:625 (1, 2) : invert the slider and the circle in the timeline, the (1) is a long note but the slider is the (2) every slider in this section emphasizes the bass, not cymbals
02:37:415 (1) : remove NC ? fixed
03:11:204 (1, 2) : you should increase spacing for a better look its not about look its about emphasis, the close ones are the same pitch, and the farther one is a higher pitch.
03:21:309 (1, 2) : same
03:35:836 : this part is REALLY weird, spacing is quite too much like 03:35:915 (5, 6), time spacing dont match with distance spacing, it looks weird to see, its much harder than you guess. I can play it perfectly, im a lot better than my rank suggests.
If a least combo would match with streams, but not really fixed
-> Rework it please (to the spinner) the sliders match the ds perfectly, theyre 1/4 sliders and normally 1/4 sliders are treated with the same ds as normal notes. This is also a breakcore section, which does all the explaining for me, the sliders are mapped to quiet hits and the notes are on loud ones.
03:47:519 (1, 1) : little overlap, with your slider design its strange cant do anything about it since the entire slider section there makes the savant logo
04:37:098 (2, 3, 4, 5, 6) : too hard to play, you dont map 8.5* x) there are hundreds of these in ambers marble, and thats a 5* map, this is also the hard part of the map, and the square stream emphasizes the zipping noises.
04:37:729 (8, 9) : same, there you should replace (9) near (8) because the stacking on (9) is hardly readable once again, hard part, this is the part thats the hardest to read, hardest to play, biggest jumps, longest streams, papa johns.
04:50:835 (8) : this note is way harder to play due to your stacking, you should put it near x=374; y=311 for co-ords you would do it like 374:311 (and obviously replace (7) before it) thats a pattern used throughout the map, by this point the player recognizes it, but ill get more opinions.
05:12:940 (6, 7, 8) : not so far from (5) i think^^ the drum pitch changes thats when you put stream spaces, like in furioso melodia.

[ Eon Fox ] wrote:

Diff name suggestions:

Transmogrification
Eviscerating Womb of Nihilistic Anguish
Lacriment of Defiled Angels
Baleful Putrescence
Ruination's Womb
Knife of Everlasting Sadness
Despairing Filth
Gnarled Wolf Of Iron
Lovelessness
Malefaction
Ashen Coil Wounds
Bestial Woe
Depression Of The Soul
Domination Of Worth
Insatiable Rage
Bloodied Pavement
Nails Within The Forehead
Coagulated Terror
The Pariah
Extiguishing of Hope
Filthy Divisive Wormwood
Nacre Lying In Chains Of Hate
Manacled By The Neck To The Wall
Obfuscated Entrails of Ever-Devolving Fire
Choked By Societal Lies

Also, you want unique? CS5.6, AR 9.8, OD9.9, HP6.

MisterDinner wrote:

[ Eon Fox ] wrote:

Diff name suggestions:

Transmogrification
Eviscerating Womb of Nihilistic Anguish
Lacriment of Defiled Angels
Baleful Putrescence
Ruination's Womb
Knife of Everlasting Sadness
Despairing Filth
Gnarled Wolf Of Iron
Lovelessness
Malefaction
Ashen Coil Wounds
Bestial Woe
Depression Of The Soul
Domination Of Worth
Insatiable Rage
Bloodied Pavement
Nails Within The Forehead
Coagulated Terror
The Pariah
Extiguishing of Hope
Filthy Divisive Wormwood
Nacre Lying In Chains Of Hate
Manacled By The Neck To The Wall
Obfuscated Entrails of Ever-Devolving Fire
Choked By Societal Lies

Also, you want unique? CS5.6, AR 9.8, OD9.9, HP6.

My god dude, did you ask mazzerin for these?
Theyre all pretty edgy, like dying your hair cyan and red edgy, most of these seem like death metal diff names tho, but dude malefaction sounds edgy, isnt a 9/11 joke, and its related since a desperado is basically an outlaw, thx m8. ill use that (ik its supposed to be a contest but ur edgier than the downtown core of a city)

[ Eon Fox ] wrote:

ALSO, UP THE OD TO AT LEAST 9. IT'S FAR TOO EASY TO DO AT OD7. I MEAN, OD7 MAKES THIS WORTH LESS THAN 300PP FOR NOMOD SS.

TheLeviathan wrote:

Hi, M4M Stuff

00:21:309 (4,4,4,3,4,4,3,4) - starting of, these sounds are emphasized, so they should be spaced a bit more from previous notes the section is really calm, no need for emphasis
00:50:362 (1) - this should be a part of previous combo, and NC need to start here 00:50:678 (3) - makes much more sense with the changes of music fixed
00:56:362 (1,2,1,2) - if ur doing this, then make 00:56:994 (3) - start with NC fixed
00:57:625 (5,6) - this is confusing and not comfortable to play/read , but that's can be my personal opinion changed, i was waiting for someone to point that out again.
01:00:625 (8,9) - so 2 things i think must be changed here, first of all, slider ends on very strong hard beat, which should be a single note i'm sure, and second thing is length of combo, there must be a new combo starting from the point of slider end, consider remaking this part and you'll see it's much better i just used a 1/4 slider with a note directly after since the slider was emphasizing the bass like everything else.
01:10:888 (6) - add some drum clap hitsound here the hs isnt done yet
01:10:967 (1) - also low the volume at the spinner end fixed
01:40:730 (6) - move top point of this a bit to left, just a tiny bit, to be in straight line with followup stream fixed
03:11:204 (1,2) - make those be spaced like 03:11:836 (4,5) - these, might be a tiny bit less, but there definitely need to be some space in between them changed but i needed to make the third note in the pattern space way out because its emphasized.
03:21:309 (1,2) - ^
03:30:862 - insert a break time, yes this part is not huge, but if someone plays with HR lets say and he is low on hp, then he just may die at this part if youre good enough to play this HR then i dont think youre gonna have any hp problems but i added it anyways
05:12:861 (5,6) - not sure about this, this is very unexpected jump in stream, and tbh i don't see the reason why it is even there at the space the drum changes pitch, i made it smaller though

Don't know what else to add, in other aspects map is pretty solid

Good luck further

MisterDinner wrote:

[ Eon Fox ] wrote:

ALSO, UP THE OD TO AT LEAST 9. IT'S FAR TOO EASY TO DO AT OD7. I MEAN, OD7 MAKES THIS WORTH LESS THAN 300PP FOR NOMOD SS.

Im not doing anything if pp is mentioned.
This is already hard enough to read, and this is doable with mods for anyone less than 2k from what ive seen.
This isnt a streaming map or a pp jump map, its a map, that has a lot of sliders, which is why its worth barely anything.
The big black is less than 400 to put it in perspective.
But I raised it to 8 anyways, im not monstrata, making maps to have a high pp right now will 1. get me a bad rep 2. it will not be fun with my current skill.

Deramok wrote:

here's your m4m delivery

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1. 00:34:257 (1,2,3,4) - this is ignoring the irregular rhythm goign on there, would be nice to click it since it gives the player something to pay attention to http://puu.sh/rdJ9S/fe0bfcf7ff.jpg would be one way of doing it nah, the rhythm changes so its following the subtle change going into the buildup
2. 00:49:888 (5) - i really dont' see why you have 1/4 sliders on parts like these. they're not mapped on anything as far as i hear and you do and don't use them in other, same sounding places. i get you have them for variation but.. it's still overmapping and inconsistent. i'd check every one of them on their viability. well theyre mapped bass noises, but you arent the first one to complain so i silenced the ends
3. 01:05:441 (5,8) - same goes for these, at least there's some sound in the background now but.. they still pop arbitrarily from what i get. they're not even anywhere else on those places in that kiai replaced with normal sliders
4. 01:36:783 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - 5 should be there, the sounds you mapped as streams take a 1/2 break there but instead it continues through this gap 01:37:415 (12,1) - (here you got it right 01:39:309 (3) - ) uh, what?
5. 01:47:836 (2,3) - since you map those sound through the whole part, here is one missing and this is too much 01:51:546 (2) - fixed
6. 02:10:573 (6,7,8) - the transition from 5 feels really awkward. you gould just ctrl+g all 3 sliders or just 6 as well well this is something called drop off flow, you dont even need to move the cursor you just need to place it at the next note
7. 02:12:941 (2) - might wanna skip this on since you also skippe dit with 02:11:520 (1) - well its transitioning to a new section
8. 02:16:573 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - would be cool if you made something more out of that 3/4 beat going on there other than jsut the ncs, oh well, nothing wrong with it, just felt like pointing it out. well every other build up has a flowing stream, no reason to make it weird now.
9. 03:00:467 (6) - should probably just be a single to express that the one you map as 1/4 takes a break. fixed
10. 03:10:257 (1,2) - should probably either stick to 1/3 or 1/2 here. preferably 1/3.. except you find a good way to map it 1/3 1/6 1/6 1/3 for both. but 1/4 is definitely not the way i used a 1/3 slider
11. 03:13:257 (3,4,5) - the tripple is too early fixed
12. 03:14:520 (4) - probably not necessary since there still is a sound there, but i'd change it up with a 1/1 since it is an irregularity in the song kept it
13. 03:19:573 (6) - this one does need to go tho fixed
14. 03:20:362 (5,6) - i think the ranking criteria doesn't allow this sort of playing under repeats of short repeat sliders. so if you want it to be rankable, look into this one it should be fine, the criteria hasnt been updated in a long time some things might not be accurate
15. 03:22:652 (2) - 03:25:178 (1,3) - 03:25:573 (1) - 03:27:704 (2) - 03:28:099 (1) - 03:28:573 (5,6) - 03:28:888 (1) - (you get the idea) i don't think there is 1/4 here there is its just very subtle
16. 03:28:888 (1) - ctrl+g? spacing problems
17. 04:17:361 maybe add a note here to imply the end of the long break so the the player starts paying attention again before the pattern pops. could put it in the center of the squares. it also already suggests on which sound the pattern will be playing well its a 6* map, they should have the reflexes of a cat now
18. 04:32:124 (2) - you should either remove this or have a note between 04:32:203 (3,1) - as well added a note
19. 04:32:361 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is not a nice looking curve its not a nice group of sounds playing but i still made it slightly more round
20. 04:47:361 (3) - i don't see why you'd use this while no using it on the same sounds on the very same beat i dont know what you mean but i used the slider note combo because the triple isnt a main sound
21. 04:58:256 (2,3,4) - 04:58:729 (5,6) - you didn't map the streams here which you mapped on the other pinstances in the kiai the song transitioned to a new section
22. 05:17:203 (1) - you should start the slow down bit on the big white instead i started it right when the dirty, disgusting noise started

many patterns are quite nicely constructed holy shit its a miracle, i like it. too bad i don't like the song to go with it well keep an open mind and learn to appreciate more wide varieties of music and their components, ur life will be better

KuroNeko1509 wrote:

Hai hai ~ sorry for late NM lol
Vert fun map, and song so good mmmm
Good luck ranking it!

changed
Meh
Maybe
Im too fukkin lazy to add colour
[Malefaction]

1. 00:16:573 - 00:17:836 - i think you should add sliders there as well, i mean the way it is now is ok but i feel like with slider at those tics it will follow music better ?
   
   
2. 00:44:836 (2,3) - feels weird but i dont know how to fix it so that it wont feel so weird ;-; yeah i have no idea, and ive tried to fix it before and failed every time so i just made it a note.
   
   
3. 00:44:836 (2,3,5) - also move overlap to make it look neater or just try to avoid it completely yeh
   
   
4. 00:48:783 (1,2,4) - this overlap also feels a bit messy, id suggest avoiding this kind of overlaps, it wont harm the flow and will look neater imo; and if you agree with this then change the rest of the messy overlaps as well. 02:24:941 (5,7,2) - like here.... just try staying consistent and it will definitely help in terms of aesthetics and wont harm the flow at alll..... well this overlap is only visible in the editor with the animations off, it isnt noticeable during play since the map is ar 9.4 or something, and i cant remember if I changed this or not
   
   
5. 00:54:941 (3,4) - looks confusing, either reverse those notes so its note->slider or just change the placement of these 2 notes well i changed placement but the slider is mapped to a bass hit so it cant change
   
   
6. 00:55:888 (8,1) - ^
   
   
7. 01:22:573 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think you could make these notes a bit more interesting like this for example -> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6179993 sure
   
   
8. 01:36:073 (4) - this note isnt stacked or whatever correctly, i think you should move this stream a bit to the right for aesthetics, will look wayyyy neater :3 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6180019 this look way better than http://puu.sh/rnvRm/691452584b.jpg fixed
   
   
9. 01:37:730 - sound here is too loud to be ignored imo, i think it should be clickable ? and it shall
   
   
10. 01:38:994 (2) - i think you should reverse this so that when this slider is done reversing you can smoothly proceed onto the long slider, like make the head of this slider a tail so its like this -> http://puu.sh/rnwbq/2d9f6ea61e.jpg fixed
    
    
11. 01:53:362 (7) - I think you should replace this with just stream notes because imo it plays better that way well the hits the sliders start on are much louder than the background noise
    
    
12. 02:17:757 (1,2,3,4,5) - this too ^, like streams will be more fun imo and sounds is just so perfect, i mean sliders look OK, but stream will be better imo ~_~
    
    
13. 02:16:573 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - why NC every 3 notes? I think you should remove NC in places where it normally wouldnt be, try sticking to NC on downbeats only crap
    
    
14. 02:45:625 (1,2) - hmm idk what but something feels off about these 2 sliders, maybe you could make it into 1/2 slider thats going reverse? i just reversed them
    
    
15. 02:51:625 (1,2,3) - feels off as well, what I'd suggest doing is delete note 1 and move slider 2 to the time where note 1 was, then move slider 3 to the tic after the slider 2 - the downbeat, or you could place a note there.. anyways you'd also need to add another note in thsi section because of the moving and all. so in case if it doesn't make sense, here are the screenshots -> http://puu.sh/rnxtR/3ff2edb991.jpg s->s->c or http://puu.sh/rnxtR/3ff2edb991.jpg s->c->s; but imo slider slider circle is better. thx for the math equasion
    
    
16. 03:05:204 (1,2,3) - I think you should delete slider 2 and make slider 1 reverse 2 times, so this section should look like this -> http://puu.sh/rnxIU/b975791504.jpg this way, it follows music way better imo i just made it a note
    
    
17. 03:13:099 (2,3) - i think placement of these notes could be more interesting, also because note 3 before the triple, it feels a little confusing triangles
    
    
18. 03:23:836 (3,4,5,6) - looks very confusing and messy, fix overlap....to make it neater yes, i think
    
    
19. 03:33:309 (5,6,7) - decrease distance a little? im too lazy to keep typing ill just point out flaws in your criticisms from now on
    
    
    
20. 03:36:073 (1,2,3,4) - ^ 03:36:704 (2,3,4,5) - ^ but i mean its fine, it just makes the stream look slower and gives false advertisement lol, it looks like its not 1/4 stream but maybe like 1/2 notes....
    
    
    
21. 04:22:729 (1,2,3) - maybe move note 3 somewhere else so that it will a bit more fun? like maybe make a triangle...
    
    
    
22. 04:27:940 - dont forget NC
    
    
23. 04:32:045 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - again, this looks confusing, lol they are placed so far apart making it looks like some completely different things from what they actually are
    
    
24. 04:54:466 (1,2,3,4) - ^
    
    
    
25. 04:34:571 (2) - nice slider, always wondered how people make these sliders, now i know lol
    
    
    
26. 04:37:098 (2,3,4,5,6) - decrease distance, nearly impossible to hit this notes, well a rank 500 player i know passed this with only 3 misses and he SSed this pattern, but did dub it evil after, but fine
    
    
27. 04:42:466 (2,3) - emmm something feels off about this part, i think its the fact that i hear loud drum sound or whatever the loud sound is, and i feel like 2 1/4 sliders dont follow the sound so well, so if youll come up with something different maybe consider changing this part well its following the pattern of jumps while filling in the 1/4 notes
    
    
28. 04:48:466 (1,2,3,4) - sliders, and in other previous parts with this sound you used sliders, but why jumps here tho 04:44:519 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 04:45:782 (1,2,3,4,5) - i feel like jumps dont follow the sound as well as sliders would.
    
    
    
29. 04:52:098 (2) - I think you should move this note somewhere else because of the stream thats following right after
    
    
30. 04:55:729 (1,2,3) - although I do hear the sound behind 2 and 3, i feel like the weird pew sound is standing out much more, so Id suggest make note1 into a slider that ends where note 3 was.
    
    
31. 04:56:992 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6180469 i feel like you should make this section look something like http://puu.sh/rnAJU/caa5d728f8.jpg because the sound isnt too outstanding to be a stream.. but if you dont want sliders this long you could make them 1/4 sliders, i think it will work as well, but i really feel like stream isnt the best option in this case despite the fact that i really like streams lol well its following the pattern of the ticking noises in the back
    
    
32. 04:59:519 (1,2,3,4,5) - this can be a slider too like here -> 04:34:571 (2) - ; the reason why i feel like stream isnt good here either is that this song has the same repeating sound that would make streams like here 04:59:519 (1,2,3,4,5) - but... because of the fact that the sound is very repeating I think its a good idea to try to follow other sounds beside tiny beat sounds. But i mean its your choice lol either one works imo
    
    
33. 05:05:835 - and 05:07:098 - have identical sounds, maybe try to stay consistent and make a slider like in 5:05 here as well to make this sound sort of recognizable for player
    
    
34. 05:12:624 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I dont see a reason to have spacing between first 5 notes and following 3, pls combine them the drum pitch changes
    
    
35. 05:14:677 (1) - and 05:15:940 (1) - have same exact sounds, but shapes are completely different lol, something i learned recently is that you should kinda try to stick with same or similar shapes for sounds that are pretty much the same or alike, that is because it will be more consistent and recognizable for players when we play, otherwise its not recognizable. It is also for aesthetic reasons
    
    
36. 05:19:729 (1,8) - ^
    
    
37. 05:23:361 (1,2,3) - I think the ending is a little awkward with these notes, it would be better if you repalce them with 2 1/2 sliders -> http://puu.sh/rnBD9/3f3199fda9.jpg