Considering the Taiko interface is essentially a timeline, yeah. You could just move the timeline to the centre and allow for don/ka/denden/slider icons to replace standard osu! icons on the already existing one.
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I made a description of the "my" taiko editor, if someone, somewhere, something is not understood.
Extra descriptions:
1) Keys "Space", "left" and "right", "Shift" and "F1 ~ F12" and some other keys will have the same features as the regular osu! Editor.
2) For each circle type is a key shortcut. It seems to me, but I can not come up with easy-key shortcut. That's what I came up with:
1 - select.
2 - denden.
q- don.
w- kat.
a- "big" don. (Yeah, I don't know taiko's glossary. ;3)
s-" big" kat.
z- roll.
x- "big" roll.
3) With a scalable timeline you can do the same steps as with the non-scalable: select, place or remove the circles.
4) When installing the circles in the editor and try to open .osu file in the default editor, all the circles will be installed at the point x:256 y:192. Immediately, however, raises the question: "What about rolls? And if they are long, how to portray this long slider in the normal editor?". But I think that knowing the coder will be able to resolve this issue. 3
5) AIMod should be aware that this is an editor for taiko, but not for osu!standart.
6) Tips for creating in taiko Beatmaps editor should be on the topic. Text tips should be shifted down. At non scalable timeline should not be anything extra.
I have translated the entire text through Google Translate. Below is the text in my native language, which I put in translator.
Extra descriptions:
1) Keys "Space", "left" and "right", "Shift" and "F1 ~ F12" and some other keys will have the same features as the regular osu! Editor.
2) For each circle type is a key shortcut. It seems to me, but I can not come up with easy-key shortcut. That's what I came up with:
1 - select.
2 - denden.
q- don.
w- kat.
a- "big" don. (Yeah, I don't know taiko's glossary. ;3)
s-" big" kat.
z- roll.
x- "big" roll.
3) With a scalable timeline you can do the same steps as with the non-scalable: select, place or remove the circles.
4) When installing the circles in the editor and try to open .osu file in the default editor, all the circles will be installed at the point x:256 y:192. Immediately, however, raises the question: "What about rolls? And if they are long, how to portray this long slider in the normal editor?". But I think that knowing the coder will be able to resolve this issue. 3
5) AIMod should be aware that this is an editor for taiko, but not for osu!standart.
6) Tips for creating in taiko Beatmaps editor should be on the topic. Text tips should be shifted down. At non scalable timeline should not be anything extra.
I have translated the entire text through Google Translate. Below is the text in my native language, which I put in translator.
On Russian
1) Клавиши "Space", "влево", "вправо", "Shift" и "F1~F12" и некоторые другие клавиши будут иметь те же функции, что и обычном osu!editor.
2) Для каждого circle type будет свой key shortcut. Мне кажется, но у меня не получается придумать удобные key shortcut. Вот что я придумал:
1- select.
2- denden.
q- don.
w- kat.
a- "big" don. (Yeah, I don't know taiko's glossary. :3 )
s- "big" kat.
z- roll.
x- "big" roll.
3) С масштабируемым таймлайном можно делать все те же действия, что и с немасштабируемым: выделять, ставить или удалять круги.
4) При установке кругов в этом редакторе и попытке открыть .osu файл в стандартном редакторе, все круги будут установлены в точке x:256 y:192. Сразу, правда, встаёт вопрос: "А что делать с роллами? А если они длинные? Как изобразить этот длинный слайдер в обычном редакторе?". Но, мне кажется, что знающий кодер сможет решить этот вопрос. ;3
5) AIMod должен знать, что это редактор для тайко, а не для osu!standart.
6) Советы по созданию Beatmaps в тайко редакторе должны быть по теме. Текст советов должен быть смещён вниз. На немаштабируемом таймлайне не должно быть ничего лишнего.
2) Для каждого circle type будет свой key shortcut. Мне кажется, но у меня не получается придумать удобные key shortcut. Вот что я придумал:
1- select.
2- denden.
q- don.
w- kat.
a- "big" don. (Yeah, I don't know taiko's glossary. :3 )
s- "big" kat.
z- roll.
x- "big" roll.
3) С масштабируемым таймлайном можно делать все те же действия, что и с немасштабируемым: выделять, ставить или удалять круги.
4) При установке кругов в этом редакторе и попытке открыть .osu файл в стандартном редакторе, все круги будут установлены в точке x:256 y:192. Сразу, правда, встаёт вопрос: "А что делать с роллами? А если они длинные? Как изобразить этот длинный слайдер в обычном редакторе?". Но, мне кажется, что знающий кодер сможет решить этот вопрос. ;3
5) AIMod должен знать, что это редактор для тайко, а не для osu!standart.
6) Советы по созданию Beatmaps в тайко редакторе должны быть по теме. Текст советов должен быть смещён вниз. На немаштабируемом таймлайне не должно быть ничего лишнего.
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I think the Taiko bar should be placed somewhere near the center, so that it's right above the black name bar in Taiko-diff backgrounds
and BG, video and SB stay as they are
I think the Taiko bar should be placed somewhere near the center, so that it's right above the black name bar in Taiko-diff backgrounds
and BG, video and SB stay as they are
what's wrong with the current editor?
Wait, nothing.
Wait, nothing.
Same idea, but I think it is possible for action to "previous" circles, you can use a scalable timeline.XK2238 wrote:
I think the Taiko bar should be placed somewhere near the center, so that it's right above the black name bar in Taiko-diff backgrounds
and BG, video and SB stay as they are
If something like this appears in osu! I may com back in the taiko mapping world 
(the osu! editor in its current state is awful IMO for taiko mapping)
(the osu! editor in its current state is awful IMO for taiko mapping)
hitsounds for don/kat/doublesMMzz wrote:
what's wrong with the current editor?
Wait, nothing.
unable to preview how the song will look in the editor, must go into testing mode (thus forcing saves for slight changes)
it was made for a different rhythm game
some other stuff
Bumping and adding tetsutaro's sugestion for Taiko Editor GUI.
I've this in my mind for long time but i tough no one would be interesting on my idea...
This is more fun to map and totally support this idea.
This is more fun to map and totally support this idea.
Since it's bumped, more support.
Support~
Support this feature :3
Bumping again to give a more detailed explanation on how this could work (sorry I find tetsutaro's a bit confusing to understand):
I'll edit this in the OP. Feel free to give suggestions/improvements and I'll update accordingly.
Taiko Editor GUI
- Like osu!mania, the editor for taiko specific difficulties automatically changes when this mode is set.
- For difficulty settings, you should only have 2 options: HP drain, and overall difficulty.
- Maybe add a cap with a max of 7 due to ranking criteria rules?
- CS/AR should not show, since they don't affect difficulty. They will be defaulted to 5.
- Slider Velocity is set in the timing tab like always, but perhaps there could be slight modifications if it's possible:
- Change "Slider Velocity" string to "Scroll Speed"
- The description when hovering over it with the mouse should change to fit this. For example, "The scrolling speed of the notes. 1.4 or 1.6 is recommended."
- When changing SV via timing tab or timing setup, adjust drumrolls (sliders) to retain the length (time) automatically.
- In the compose tab, a taiko bar will show (much like the one that shows when playing) with grid-lines like the osu!mania editor.
- The user will have 4 toggles on the left like it is now: Select, Circle, Drumroll (Slider), and Shaker (spinner).
- On the right, there will be 2 toggles: Don/Katsu toggle and "Big" toggle (for big don/kat/drumroll)
- On the grid, you can scroll left and right with distance determined by the Beat Snap Divisor (like osu!mania)
- On the timeline at the top, it will display like normal, but without the notes (like osu!mania)
- Place notes like normal, using the mouse and appropriate toggles
- Maybe add a feature to hotkey don or kat placement (ex, press x to place and don and z to place a kat)
- Adjust free mapping feature to support big don/kat
- Distance snap will not be visible, since it is not used in taiko.
- The zoom function will zoom in/out on the notes on the grid and timeline (like osu!mania)
- In the editor, the sounds for notes will automatically use the taiko hitsounds for your skin.
Benefits
- Much more user friendly
- Quick and Easy mapping experience
- Less prone to mistakes
- Makes taiko much easier to read in the editor (useful for modding)
- People don't have to learn before hand that adding special hitsounds affects what the note is (goes with user friendly).
I'll edit this in the OP. Feel free to give suggestions/improvements and I'll update accordingly.
Popping in one of my only stars left.
Support! \*O*/
No thanks.
I have suggestion for this
for the hotkeys : z,v for kat in default hotkey
[google:0c8fd][/google:0c8fd] : x,c for don in default hotkey
[google:0c8fd][/google:0c8fd] : x,c for don in default hotkey
hotkeys would be customize-able in options.vahn10 wrote:
I have suggestion for thisfor the hotkeys : z,v for kat in default hotkey
[google:183af][/google:183af] : x,c for don in default hotkey
yeah this can be customized, you can even set it as your taiko key bindings while you playMakar wrote:
hotkeys would be customize-able in options.vahn10 wrote:
I have suggestion for thisfor the hotkeys : z,v for kat in default hotkey
[google:335a4][/google:335a4] : x,c for don in default hotkey
Support, would love to see this get implemented.
Would be much easier than just clicking on the screen and changing sound effects for the circles.
Would be much easier than just clicking on the screen and changing sound effects for the circles.
Bumpity bump.
How about adding the balloon notes? those work different from shakers and drumrolls :I
How about adding the balloon notes? those work different from shakers and drumrolls :I
I'm absolutely satisfied with the current Method. Very simple, very efficient. I am not stubborn about this but it's really not needed.
this problem is solved.Mithost wrote:
hitsounds for don/kat/doublesMMzz wrote:
what's wrong with the current editor?
Wait, nothing.
I requested this a few hours ago, with the exact same things >.<
There was one other thing I said, which you didn't say, maybe add that to the OP?
Add an add stream button, You select number of notes, and the pattern, and say how many times it will happen again (Just like polygonal circles)
So, you have a stream kdddkdddkdddkddd etc. You can just set it to 4 notes with KDDD, 4 times
I wish I had stars left >.<
There was one other thing I said, which you didn't say, maybe add that to the OP?
Add an add stream button, You select number of notes, and the pattern, and say how many times it will happen again (Just like polygonal circles)
So, you have a stream kdddkdddkdddkddd etc. You can just set it to 4 notes with KDDD, 4 times
I wish I had stars left >.<
I gave you all my stars. I hope this gets implemented. Those that keep saying "there's nothing wrong with the current editor" fail to see with the eyes of progress. This isn't anything actually wrong with the current editor, but that doesn't mean you should just give up and say it's perfection when it's clearly not.
BUMP
I want this
This'll make taiko mapping more nice
I want this
This'll make taiko mapping more nice
Bump
I just came across this searching for an other thread
Time to bring this back up
I just came across this searching for an other thread
Time to bring this back up
I don't do mapping in taiko (probably never will) but I wanna say that the editor mode for other modes (than STD) are kinda "undeveloped" or have some things missing. It doesn't have to be anything wrong with the editor, but there shall be room for improvement thoughMMzz wrote:
what's wrong with the current editor?
Wait, nothing.
I'm bumping this everytime xDbaraatje123 wrote:
BUMP
I want this
This'll make taiko mapping more nice
BUMP with an idea:
What about having the ability to view multiple difficulties (K/F/M/O) at once? Similar to this video:
This would help SO MUCH to create a professional difficulty spread. Because difficulty spread and structure between the difficulties is strict for ranking Taiko maps.
I know this would be difficult to create and will not happen soon (I will have to fix my taiko spread manually while switching between the diffs...), but I'm dreaming ;-;
What about having the ability to view multiple difficulties (K/F/M/O) at once? Similar to this video:
This would help SO MUCH to create a professional difficulty spread. Because difficulty spread and structure between the difficulties is strict for ranking Taiko maps.
I know this would be difficult to create and will not happen soon (I will have to fix my taiko spread manually while switching between the diffs...), but I'm dreaming ;-;
Yes, please.
And yes, please.Desperate-kun wrote:
BUMP with an idea:
What about having the ability to view multiple difficulties (K/F/M/O) at once? Similar to this video:
This would help SO MUCH to create a professional difficulty spread. Because difficulty spread and structure between the difficulties is strict for ranking Taiko maps.
I know this would be difficult to create and will not happen soon (I will have to fix my taiko spread manually while switching between the diffs...), but I'm dreaming ;-;
Oh god yes.
Also tweak the live-mapping tool,it lags enough to make mapping impossible
(you can put down the basic rhythm with live-mapping I suppose,but beyond that you'll have to put in your notes manually)
Also tweak the live-mapping tool,it lags enough to make mapping impossible
(you can put down the basic rhythm with live-mapping I suppose,but beyond that you'll have to put in your notes manually)