posting logs for reference here, thanks again Strategas
23:14 Pho: can you evaluate on 6.5* maps by any chance? xD
23:16 Strategas: I think I can
23:16 Strategas: dunno what you mean by evaluate lol
23:18 Pho: i could need some high-level player opinions on the map
23:18 Pho: might have pushed it too far at times so i need people who can pass the map and give me feedback on a few critical patterns
23:19 Strategas: I can try
23:21 Pho: [http://puu.sh/qHiBJ/e45cdd86ef.osz awesome]
23:23 Strategas: 210 ><><<
23:23 Pho: only for hardcore players
23:24 Strategas: ye I can't stream
23:24 Strategas: z
23:24 Strategas: also
23:24 Strategas: disclaimer
23:24 Strategas: if I miss tripples it's because of my hand not of map
23:26 Pho: allright
23:27 Strategas: xd
23:27 Strategas: drain
23:27 Strategas: it's hp 5
23:27 Strategas: but miss stream adn rip
23:27 Pho: that's pretty much the essence of the map lol
23:31 Pho: yea this map is pretty overkill xd
23:31 Strategas: it hurts
23:31 Strategas: I think spacing is ok
23:31 Strategas: even if it's overkill
23:31 Strategas: if you just make it easier to read
23:31 Strategas: it's fine
23:32 Strategas: for me atleast
23:32 Strategas: 00:59:358 (1) -
23:32 Pho: sure, any specific timestamp you want to point out?
23:32 Strategas: and these shiirn sliders trigger me
23:32 Pho: what's a shiirn slider
23:33 Strategas: http://image.prntscr.com/image/39bb3793 ... 5a675b.png
23:33 Strategas: this
23:34 Pho: i just know these as snake sliders tbh
23:34 Strategas: http://image.prntscr.com/image/b60b72d1 ... 8c0804.png
23:34 Strategas: and this is cool mappers slider
23:34 Strategas: just need correct white node placement lol
23:34 Strategas: it looks so much better
23:34 Strategas: if it's curved like that
23:34 Pho: so you want them more curved
23:35 Strategas: YES
23:35 Pho: allright, i prefer that kind more anyway xd
23:35 Strategas: ok now lets get to the map lol
23:36 Strategas: I guess I'm suppose to say only playability stuff so
23:36 Strategas: well for me
23:36 Strategas: 00:19:358 (7,1) -
23:36 Strategas: was easy to tell it's 1/1
23:36 Strategas: but can still mislead
23:37 Strategas: 00:24:073 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) -
23:37 Strategas: etc this is cool
23:37 Strategas: but then you have
23:37 Strategas: 00:24:644 (2,3,1,2) -
23:37 Strategas: flow
23:37 Strategas: it's not that noticable because the later combo is low spaced
23:37 Strategas: just so that you keep in mind
23:37 Pho: i believe that 7,1 part is good enough to read, wouldn't fix that
23:38 Strategas: ye nvm I just noticed ar 9.6
23:38 Strategas: so it's not problem
23:38 Pho: 00:24:644 (2,3,1,2) - i suppose due to broad angles into the pentagon pattern
23:39 Strategas: yeah
23:39 Strategas: mb you can make it so
23:39 Strategas: it goes the otherway
23:39 Strategas: starts from
23:39 Strategas: 00:25:358 (4) -
23:39 Strategas: or
23:39 Strategas: no or
23:39 Strategas:
23:39 Pho: http://puu.sh/qHjLG/66703fff31.jpg
23:40 Strategas: works
23:40 Strategas: ok then
23:40 Strategas: 00:25:358 (4) -
23:40 Strategas: fuck
23:40 Strategas: rip old copy sec
23:40 Strategas: 00:30:358 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) -
23:40 Strategas: flow goes very circular here
23:40 Strategas: the higher bpm the more awkward it gets
23:41 Strategas: you remember that the kick sliders play as single tap so
23:42 Pho: yea. i tried to make the spacing as high enough as necessary to make it play comfortable without distancing objects too much
23:42 Pho: not sure if it should be higher between the low-spaced kickslider
23:43 Strategas: well the kickslider part is easy
23:43 Strategas: 00:31:215 (1,2,3,4) -
23:43 Strategas: this is the hard part
23:43 Strategas: like tripple spacing?
23:43 Strategas: than the kick sliders
23:44 Pho: yes, i think there was more than enough momentum being brought up by those kicksliders to enhance the spacing there
23:45 Pho: it felt more natural to play, lower spacing would make it somewhat uncomfortable
23:45 Pho: at least that's how it felt to me when i tried
23:45 Strategas: well the thing you can improve here is
23:45 Strategas: make it go atleast a bit more angled
23:46 Strategas: it's not that important tho
23:46 Strategas: just that I know many people usually have problems
23:46 Strategas: with paterns like this
23:46 Pho: i don't like snapped movement that much at this point. i mean it's also an important skill to have control over your movement
23:46 Strategas: alright
23:46 Strategas: then I can move on
23:46 Strategas: 00:46:358 (1) -
23:47 Strategas: you probably noticed how I miserably failed this everytime
23:47 Strategas: lol
23:47 Pho: oh ya, i saw you had issues with that one xD
23:47 Strategas: I think it's not hard to fix
23:47 Pho: i just recently changed that one because the previous version was super-high circular flow only
23:48 Strategas: I feel like the problem here is
23:48 Strategas: that you have back and forth
23:48 Strategas: and the it's more intuitive to go up
23:48 Strategas: but you go down
23:48 Strategas: after the 6
23:48 Strategas: you can just swap it so it starts from up
23:48 Strategas: wait no
23:49 Strategas: from down
23:50 Pho: how about pushing the stream more to the right: http://puu.sh/qHkpk/ca3e8ee0e4.jpg
23:50 Pho: would narrow down the angle between 5-6-1 a bit
23:50 Pho: and easier to get into the stream
23:53 Strategas: zz I still can't get it
23:53 Strategas: my cursor goes like
23:54 Strategas: http://image.prntscr.com/image/e4a3a831 ... a2617d.png
23:54 Strategas: and I dunno why
23:54 Strategas: the up motion seems to sudden or something
23:54 Strategas: but in editor looks fine
23:56 Pho: i actually think pushing it more to the right and lowering the distance into the stream actually helps. i just tried it out
23:56 Strategas: you can try
23:56 Strategas: mb I'm just too noob for this patern idk
23:57 Pho: i'll leave it for now yup xd
23:58 Strategas: 01:37:215 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) -
23:58 Strategas: this played really cool
23:58 Strategas: and I'm sure that you will get complains about
23:58 Strategas: 01:39:501 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
23:58 Strategas: stuff like
23:59 Strategas: 01:39:501 (1,2,3) -
23:59 Strategas: 01:39:787 (3,4,5) -
23:59 Pho: yup, i pretty much reversed the pattern intensity in this part from the one at 00:24:073 - lol
23:59 Pho: i like pair jumps actually
00:00 Pho: is it that uncomfortable?
00:01 Pho: although, yea, spacing changes in a line might be pretty hard to adapt to
00:01 Strategas: since I don't do flow movements it's fine for me
00:01 Strategas: but many people have the
00:01 Strategas: flow movement
00:01 Strategas: and they will have to go in single direction
00:01 Strategas: without stopping
00:01 Strategas: and change speed drastically
00:03 Strategas: 01:43:501 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -
00:03 Strategas: irrelevant but you do this stuff that confuses me
00:03 Strategas: I don't see reason with the music z
00:03 Pho: piano sounds in the background
00:04 Pho: there's a pretty notable stream of them i believe
00:05 Strategas: I can hear yeah, but some of them are really quiet
00:05 Strategas: as said it's irrelevant just wanted to ask your logic
00:05 Strategas: 01:51:073 (1) -
00:05 Strategas: btw this section
00:05 Strategas: thought finally gonna rest a bit
00:05 Strategas: but it was sooo dense
00:06 Strategas: wait no
00:06 Strategas: wrong one
00:06 Strategas: 02:00:358 (2) -
00:06 Strategas: here
00:06 Strategas: so stamina draining
00:06 Pho: 01:59:930 - starting build up at this stage in the music
00:07 Strategas: can still be more forgiving :X
00:07 Pho: i thought the spacing between these 1/4 sliders and the ministreams was reasonable enough :c
00:07 Strategas: but again that might be just my stamina
00:07 Strategas: nothing really wrong
00:07 Strategas: spacing is ok
00:08 Strategas: just no rest sliders
00:08 Strategas: 02:14:644 (6,1) -
00:08 Strategas: emphasis xd
00:09 Pho: it's just when going forward in a song, i don't like lowering density in a part that has been played before already
00:09 Pho: antijump not cool?
00:10 Strategas: wouldn't really call it antijump
00:10 Strategas: if it's antijump then what about
00:10 Strategas: 02:15:787 (6,1) -
00:10 Strategas: vs
00:10 Strategas: 02:15:644 (5,6) -
00:11 Strategas: actually whole patern
00:11 Strategas: has similar spacing here
00:11 Strategas: and you have emphasis only on
00:11 Strategas: 02:16:358 (2) -
00:13 Strategas: 02:26:930 (3,4,5,6,7,8) -
00:13 Strategas: stream allready very spaced
00:13 Strategas: then you add a small jump on the next slider
00:13 Strategas: so evil
00:13 Pho: okay, i tried to differentiate the spacing/pressure a bit more
00:14 Pho: sorry xd
00:14 Strategas: but I kinda noticed how you space stuff
00:14 Strategas: it's the meta spacing stuff
00:15 Strategas: but you don't really get to emphasize certain beats that way imo
00:15 Strategas: only the intensity of the section
00:16 Strategas: 02:19:644 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
00:16 Strategas: is what I mean
00:17 Strategas: 02:20:787 (3,4) -
00:17 Strategas: vs
00:17 Pho: oh, yea. i didn't go into detaily spacing in this kind of song
00:17 Strategas: 02:21:215 (6,7) -
00:17 Strategas: etc
00:18 Strategas: mb I should go back to playability stuff xd
00:19 Pho: im still thinking about whether i should space more according to the individual beats instead of whole section in mind
00:19 Strategas: it's consistant so it's fine I think
00:20 Strategas: and it would take a lot of work to remap
00:20 Pho: yea, should be better this way
00:21 Strategas: 02:46:787 (7,1,2,3) -
00:21 Strategas: but the way you emphasize stuff like this
00:21 Strategas: is cool
00:21 Strategas: but not very consistant xd
00:21 Strategas: 02:47:930 (8,1,2,3) -
00:22 Strategas: unless this
00:22 Strategas: 02:49:073 (10,1,2,3) -
00:22 Strategas: but angle
00:22 Strategas: 2 to 3
00:22 Strategas: z
00:22 Pho: yep, these were supposed to be complimentary
00:22 Pho: sorry i went out of ideas
00:22 Strategas: and it's hard to say where playability suffers because if just play good any patern is playable
00:23 Strategas: but from common stuff I can mention stuff
00:23 Strategas: stuff stuff stuff
00:23 Pho: stuffmaster strategas
00:24 Strategas: 02:23:215 (2,3) -
00:24 Strategas: etc shouldn't play well
00:24 Pho: allright, did something like [http://puu.sh/qHmwV/57ce5abd9f.jpg this]
00:24 Strategas: 02:36:501 (1,2,3,4) -
00:24 Strategas: 2 3 4
00:24 Pho: i thought it was a nice touch xD
00:25 Strategas: it can work if you make distance more even from sliderheads
00:26 Strategas: http://image.prntscr.com/image/17d0fda8 ... 800ed1.png
00:26 Strategas: but you will again have different spaced linear movement
00:27 Strategas: 02:55:358 (3,4,5,6,7,1) -
00:27 Strategas: first time I saw this
00:27 Strategas: I thought I was hallucinating that it had 1/2 gap
00:27 Strategas: but nope
00:27 Strategas: I think patern like this would work better as 1/1 gaps
00:27 Strategas: 1/2 gaps just too confuse
00:28 Strategas: and high bpm and ar
00:28 Strategas: 02:58:359 (1,2) -
00:28 Strategas: rly low spacing
00:28 Pho: i really like that pattern though, it fits soo well into the song :/
00:28 Strategas: can misinterpret as 1/4
00:29 Strategas: I'm just suggesting
00:29 Strategas: it's only hard
00:29 Strategas: not game breaking
00:29 Pho: will keep the pattern for now. fixed the low spacing
00:30 Strategas: 03:07:644 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
00:30 Strategas: I feel like kickslider + circle
00:30 Strategas: follow vocal
00:30 Strategas: nicely
00:30 Strategas: 03:08:787 (2,3,4) -
00:30 Pho: on 4?
00:30 Strategas: uneven
00:30 Strategas: 23 1/4
00:30 Strategas: 4 circle
00:31 Strategas: 45 1/4 slider
00:31 Strategas: dasdasdas
00:31 Strategas: 56*
00:31 Strategas: 7 circle
00:32 Strategas: 03:12:501 (3,6) -
00:32 Strategas: so nasty overlap
00:32 Strategas: 03:16:930 (3,4,5) -
00:32 Strategas: spacing
00:32 Strategas: 03:18:501 (5,6,7,8,1) -
00:32 Pho: that felt somewhat choppy, i think i'll find another way for it
00:33 Pho: 03:12:501 (3,6) - dam
00:33 Strategas: I wanted to suggest this spacing
00:33 Strategas: for the other part
00:33 Strategas: le me find
00:33 Strategas: o ye
00:33 Strategas: 02:22:501 (1,2,3,4,1) -
00:33 Strategas: dunno just inconsistant I guess
00:34 Strategas: 03:25:215 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -
00:34 Strategas: I know it's ending and stuff
00:34 Strategas: but
00:34 Strategas: the music literally
00:34 Strategas: disappears
00:34 Pho: 03:17:073 (4) - fixed. .0.5* lololol
00:34 Strategas: and you put this spacing
00:34 Strategas: z
00:35 Pho: *-0.5*
00:35 Strategas: lol
00:35 Strategas: that's a lot
00:36 Pho: 03:25:215 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - catches the momentum from the previous sliderpart
00:36 Pho: and while it might be a quiet part of the song, it's also one where the song reaches its climax so.. ya
00:36 Strategas: ik still kinda out of the song xd
00:36 Strategas: kkk
00:37 Strategas: 03:28:644 (4,5) -
00:37 Strategas: too close mb?
00:37 Pho: yup
00:38 Strategas: 03:36:430 (3,5) -
00:38 Strategas: don't think these belong
00:38 Strategas: unless they are very quiet
00:39 Strategas: 03:43:787 (5) -
00:39 Pho: they are quiet, but leaving them out would make 03:36:358 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - the stream pretty awkward as it's actually following that instrument
00:39 Strategas: the mp3 cuts off so weirdly
00:39 Pho: IKR
00:40 Pho: i don't know why mafumafu does that, but until this point the song is purely epic
00:40 Strategas: I still can only hear the instrument at 03:36:358 (2,4) -
00:40 Strategas: not the blue ticks
00:40 Strategas: but no maatter
00:40 Strategas: just pointing out
00:40 Strategas: mb I'm deaf
00:40 Strategas: who knows
00:41 Pho: there really is
00:41 Pho: but yes, it's SUPER quiet
00:41 Strategas: hm
00:41 Strategas: now I maxed my volume
00:41 Strategas: to make sure
00:41 Strategas: but
00:41 Strategas: 03:36:358 (2,3,4) -
00:41 Strategas: tripple
00:41 Strategas: 03:36:573 (5) -
00:41 Strategas: this definetely doesn't exist
00:41 Strategas: unless some very faint sound from beat before
00:42 Strategas: but noone is gonna kill you for that anyway so whatever xd
00:42 Pho: 03:36:573 (5) - it does, listen closer, it's a d note
00:42 Strategas: don't hear
00:43 Strategas: only the continous sound from
00:43 Strategas: 4
00:43 Strategas: deaf confirmed
00:43 Pho: xddddd
00:44 Strategas: best part is I don't get kudosu for discussing map for an hour xd
00:44 Pho: yea i think i got influenced too hard from the meta at times orz
00:44 Pho: oh no probs, i just savelog this
23:16 Strategas: I think I can
23:16 Strategas: dunno what you mean by evaluate lol
23:18 Pho: i could need some high-level player opinions on the map
23:18 Pho: might have pushed it too far at times so i need people who can pass the map and give me feedback on a few critical patterns
23:19 Strategas: I can try
23:21 Pho: [http://puu.sh/qHiBJ/e45cdd86ef.osz awesome]
23:23 Strategas: 210 ><><<
23:23 Pho: only for hardcore players
23:24 Strategas: ye I can't stream
23:24 Strategas: z
23:24 Strategas: also
23:24 Strategas: disclaimer
23:24 Strategas: if I miss tripples it's because of my hand not of map
23:26 Pho: allright
23:27 Strategas: xd
23:27 Strategas: drain
23:27 Strategas: it's hp 5
23:27 Strategas: but miss stream adn rip
23:27 Pho: that's pretty much the essence of the map lol
23:31 Pho: yea this map is pretty overkill xd
23:31 Strategas: it hurts
23:31 Strategas: I think spacing is ok
23:31 Strategas: even if it's overkill
23:31 Strategas: if you just make it easier to read
23:31 Strategas: it's fine
23:32 Strategas: for me atleast
23:32 Strategas: 00:59:358 (1) -
23:32 Pho: sure, any specific timestamp you want to point out?
23:32 Strategas: and these shiirn sliders trigger me
23:32 Pho: what's a shiirn slider
23:33 Strategas: http://image.prntscr.com/image/39bb3793 ... 5a675b.png
23:33 Strategas: this
23:34 Pho: i just know these as snake sliders tbh
23:34 Strategas: http://image.prntscr.com/image/b60b72d1 ... 8c0804.png
23:34 Strategas: and this is cool mappers slider
23:34 Strategas: just need correct white node placement lol
23:34 Strategas: it looks so much better
23:34 Strategas: if it's curved like that
23:34 Pho: so you want them more curved
23:35 Strategas: YES
23:35 Pho: allright, i prefer that kind more anyway xd
23:35 Strategas: ok now lets get to the map lol
23:36 Strategas: I guess I'm suppose to say only playability stuff so
23:36 Strategas: well for me
23:36 Strategas: 00:19:358 (7,1) -
23:36 Strategas: was easy to tell it's 1/1
23:36 Strategas: but can still mislead
23:37 Strategas: 00:24:073 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) -
23:37 Strategas: etc this is cool
23:37 Strategas: but then you have
23:37 Strategas: 00:24:644 (2,3,1,2) -
23:37 Strategas: flow
23:37 Strategas: it's not that noticable because the later combo is low spaced
23:37 Strategas: just so that you keep in mind
23:37 Pho: i believe that 7,1 part is good enough to read, wouldn't fix that
23:38 Strategas: ye nvm I just noticed ar 9.6
23:38 Strategas: so it's not problem
23:38 Pho: 00:24:644 (2,3,1,2) - i suppose due to broad angles into the pentagon pattern
23:39 Strategas: yeah
23:39 Strategas: mb you can make it so
23:39 Strategas: it goes the otherway
23:39 Strategas: starts from
23:39 Strategas: 00:25:358 (4) -
23:39 Strategas: or
23:39 Strategas: no or
23:39 Strategas:
23:39 Pho: http://puu.sh/qHjLG/66703fff31.jpg
23:40 Strategas: works
23:40 Strategas: ok then
23:40 Strategas: 00:25:358 (4) -
23:40 Strategas: fuck
23:40 Strategas: rip old copy sec
23:40 Strategas: 00:30:358 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) -
23:40 Strategas: flow goes very circular here
23:40 Strategas: the higher bpm the more awkward it gets
23:41 Strategas: you remember that the kick sliders play as single tap so
23:42 Pho: yea. i tried to make the spacing as high enough as necessary to make it play comfortable without distancing objects too much
23:42 Pho: not sure if it should be higher between the low-spaced kickslider
23:43 Strategas: well the kickslider part is easy
23:43 Strategas: 00:31:215 (1,2,3,4) -
23:43 Strategas: this is the hard part
23:43 Strategas: like tripple spacing?
23:43 Strategas: than the kick sliders
23:44 Pho: yes, i think there was more than enough momentum being brought up by those kicksliders to enhance the spacing there
23:45 Pho: it felt more natural to play, lower spacing would make it somewhat uncomfortable
23:45 Pho: at least that's how it felt to me when i tried
23:45 Strategas: well the thing you can improve here is
23:45 Strategas: make it go atleast a bit more angled
23:46 Strategas: it's not that important tho
23:46 Strategas: just that I know many people usually have problems
23:46 Strategas: with paterns like this
23:46 Pho: i don't like snapped movement that much at this point. i mean it's also an important skill to have control over your movement
23:46 Strategas: alright
23:46 Strategas: then I can move on
23:46 Strategas: 00:46:358 (1) -
23:47 Strategas: you probably noticed how I miserably failed this everytime
23:47 Strategas: lol
23:47 Pho: oh ya, i saw you had issues with that one xD
23:47 Strategas: I think it's not hard to fix
23:47 Pho: i just recently changed that one because the previous version was super-high circular flow only
23:48 Strategas: I feel like the problem here is
23:48 Strategas: that you have back and forth
23:48 Strategas: and the it's more intuitive to go up
23:48 Strategas: but you go down
23:48 Strategas: after the 6
23:48 Strategas: you can just swap it so it starts from up
23:48 Strategas: wait no
23:49 Strategas: from down
23:50 Pho: how about pushing the stream more to the right: http://puu.sh/qHkpk/ca3e8ee0e4.jpg
23:50 Pho: would narrow down the angle between 5-6-1 a bit
23:50 Pho: and easier to get into the stream
23:53 Strategas: zz I still can't get it
23:53 Strategas: my cursor goes like
23:54 Strategas: http://image.prntscr.com/image/e4a3a831 ... a2617d.png
23:54 Strategas: and I dunno why
23:54 Strategas: the up motion seems to sudden or something
23:54 Strategas: but in editor looks fine
23:56 Pho: i actually think pushing it more to the right and lowering the distance into the stream actually helps. i just tried it out
23:56 Strategas: you can try
23:56 Strategas: mb I'm just too noob for this patern idk
23:57 Pho: i'll leave it for now yup xd
23:58 Strategas: 01:37:215 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) -
23:58 Strategas: this played really cool
23:58 Strategas: and I'm sure that you will get complains about
23:58 Strategas: 01:39:501 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -
23:58 Strategas: stuff like
23:59 Strategas: 01:39:501 (1,2,3) -
23:59 Strategas: 01:39:787 (3,4,5) -
23:59 Pho: yup, i pretty much reversed the pattern intensity in this part from the one at 00:24:073 - lol
23:59 Pho: i like pair jumps actually
00:00 Pho: is it that uncomfortable?
00:01 Pho: although, yea, spacing changes in a line might be pretty hard to adapt to
00:01 Strategas: since I don't do flow movements it's fine for me
00:01 Strategas: but many people have the
00:01 Strategas: flow movement
00:01 Strategas: and they will have to go in single direction
00:01 Strategas: without stopping
00:01 Strategas: and change speed drastically
00:03 Strategas: 01:43:501 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -
00:03 Strategas: irrelevant but you do this stuff that confuses me
00:03 Strategas: I don't see reason with the music z
00:03 Pho: piano sounds in the background
00:04 Pho: there's a pretty notable stream of them i believe
00:05 Strategas: I can hear yeah, but some of them are really quiet
00:05 Strategas: as said it's irrelevant just wanted to ask your logic
00:05 Strategas: 01:51:073 (1) -
00:05 Strategas: btw this section
00:05 Strategas: thought finally gonna rest a bit
00:05 Strategas: but it was sooo dense
00:06 Strategas: wait no
00:06 Strategas: wrong one
00:06 Strategas: 02:00:358 (2) -
00:06 Strategas: here
00:06 Strategas: so stamina draining
00:06 Pho: 01:59:930 - starting build up at this stage in the music
00:07 Strategas: can still be more forgiving :X
00:07 Pho: i thought the spacing between these 1/4 sliders and the ministreams was reasonable enough :c
00:07 Strategas: but again that might be just my stamina
00:07 Strategas: nothing really wrong
00:07 Strategas: spacing is ok
00:08 Strategas: just no rest sliders
00:08 Strategas: 02:14:644 (6,1) -
00:08 Strategas: emphasis xd
00:09 Pho: it's just when going forward in a song, i don't like lowering density in a part that has been played before already
00:09 Pho: antijump not cool?
00:10 Strategas: wouldn't really call it antijump
00:10 Strategas: if it's antijump then what about
00:10 Strategas: 02:15:787 (6,1) -
00:10 Strategas: vs
00:10 Strategas: 02:15:644 (5,6) -
00:11 Strategas: actually whole patern
00:11 Strategas: has similar spacing here
00:11 Strategas: and you have emphasis only on
00:11 Strategas: 02:16:358 (2) -
00:13 Strategas: 02:26:930 (3,4,5,6,7,8) -
00:13 Strategas: stream allready very spaced
00:13 Strategas: then you add a small jump on the next slider
00:13 Strategas: so evil
00:13 Pho: okay, i tried to differentiate the spacing/pressure a bit more
00:14 Pho: sorry xd
00:14 Strategas: but I kinda noticed how you space stuff
00:14 Strategas: it's the meta spacing stuff
00:15 Strategas: but you don't really get to emphasize certain beats that way imo
00:15 Strategas: only the intensity of the section
00:16 Strategas: 02:19:644 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
00:16 Strategas: is what I mean
00:17 Strategas: 02:20:787 (3,4) -
00:17 Strategas: vs
00:17 Pho: oh, yea. i didn't go into detaily spacing in this kind of song
00:17 Strategas: 02:21:215 (6,7) -
00:17 Strategas: etc
00:18 Strategas: mb I should go back to playability stuff xd
00:19 Pho: im still thinking about whether i should space more according to the individual beats instead of whole section in mind
00:19 Strategas: it's consistant so it's fine I think
00:20 Strategas: and it would take a lot of work to remap
00:20 Pho: yea, should be better this way
00:21 Strategas: 02:46:787 (7,1,2,3) -
00:21 Strategas: but the way you emphasize stuff like this
00:21 Strategas: is cool
00:21 Strategas: but not very consistant xd
00:21 Strategas: 02:47:930 (8,1,2,3) -
00:22 Strategas: unless this
00:22 Strategas: 02:49:073 (10,1,2,3) -
00:22 Strategas: but angle
00:22 Strategas: 2 to 3
00:22 Strategas: z
00:22 Pho: yep, these were supposed to be complimentary
00:22 Pho: sorry i went out of ideas
00:22 Strategas: and it's hard to say where playability suffers because if just play good any patern is playable
00:23 Strategas: but from common stuff I can mention stuff
00:23 Strategas: stuff stuff stuff
00:23 Pho: stuffmaster strategas
00:24 Strategas: 02:23:215 (2,3) -
00:24 Strategas: etc shouldn't play well
00:24 Pho: allright, did something like [http://puu.sh/qHmwV/57ce5abd9f.jpg this]
00:24 Strategas: 02:36:501 (1,2,3,4) -
00:24 Strategas: 2 3 4
00:24 Pho: i thought it was a nice touch xD
00:25 Strategas: it can work if you make distance more even from sliderheads
00:26 Strategas: http://image.prntscr.com/image/17d0fda8 ... 800ed1.png
00:26 Strategas: but you will again have different spaced linear movement
00:27 Strategas: 02:55:358 (3,4,5,6,7,1) -
00:27 Strategas: first time I saw this
00:27 Strategas: I thought I was hallucinating that it had 1/2 gap
00:27 Strategas: but nope
00:27 Strategas: I think patern like this would work better as 1/1 gaps
00:27 Strategas: 1/2 gaps just too confuse
00:28 Strategas: and high bpm and ar
00:28 Strategas: 02:58:359 (1,2) -
00:28 Strategas: rly low spacing
00:28 Pho: i really like that pattern though, it fits soo well into the song :/
00:28 Strategas: can misinterpret as 1/4
00:29 Strategas: I'm just suggesting
00:29 Strategas: it's only hard
00:29 Strategas: not game breaking
00:29 Pho: will keep the pattern for now. fixed the low spacing
00:30 Strategas: 03:07:644 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
00:30 Strategas: I feel like kickslider + circle
00:30 Strategas: follow vocal
00:30 Strategas: nicely
00:30 Strategas: 03:08:787 (2,3,4) -
00:30 Pho: on 4?
00:30 Strategas: uneven
00:30 Strategas: 23 1/4
00:30 Strategas: 4 circle
00:31 Strategas: 45 1/4 slider
00:31 Strategas: dasdasdas
00:31 Strategas: 56*
00:31 Strategas: 7 circle
00:32 Strategas: 03:12:501 (3,6) -
00:32 Strategas: so nasty overlap
00:32 Strategas: 03:16:930 (3,4,5) -
00:32 Strategas: spacing
00:32 Strategas: 03:18:501 (5,6,7,8,1) -
00:32 Pho: that felt somewhat choppy, i think i'll find another way for it
00:33 Pho: 03:12:501 (3,6) - dam
00:33 Strategas: I wanted to suggest this spacing
00:33 Strategas: for the other part
00:33 Strategas: le me find
00:33 Strategas: o ye
00:33 Strategas: 02:22:501 (1,2,3,4,1) -
00:33 Strategas: dunno just inconsistant I guess
00:34 Strategas: 03:25:215 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) -
00:34 Strategas: I know it's ending and stuff
00:34 Strategas: but
00:34 Strategas: the music literally
00:34 Strategas: disappears
00:34 Pho: 03:17:073 (4) - fixed. .0.5* lololol
00:34 Strategas: and you put this spacing
00:34 Strategas: z
00:35 Pho: *-0.5*
00:35 Strategas: lol
00:35 Strategas: that's a lot
00:36 Pho: 03:25:215 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - catches the momentum from the previous sliderpart
00:36 Pho: and while it might be a quiet part of the song, it's also one where the song reaches its climax so.. ya
00:36 Strategas: ik still kinda out of the song xd
00:36 Strategas: kkk
00:37 Strategas: 03:28:644 (4,5) -
00:37 Strategas: too close mb?
00:37 Pho: yup
00:38 Strategas: 03:36:430 (3,5) -
00:38 Strategas: don't think these belong
00:38 Strategas: unless they are very quiet
00:39 Strategas: 03:43:787 (5) -
00:39 Pho: they are quiet, but leaving them out would make 03:36:358 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - the stream pretty awkward as it's actually following that instrument
00:39 Strategas: the mp3 cuts off so weirdly
00:39 Pho: IKR
00:40 Pho: i don't know why mafumafu does that, but until this point the song is purely epic
00:40 Strategas: I still can only hear the instrument at 03:36:358 (2,4) -
00:40 Strategas: not the blue ticks
00:40 Strategas: but no maatter
00:40 Strategas: just pointing out
00:40 Strategas: mb I'm deaf
00:40 Strategas: who knows
00:41 Pho: there really is
00:41 Pho: but yes, it's SUPER quiet
00:41 Strategas: hm
00:41 Strategas: now I maxed my volume
00:41 Strategas: to make sure
00:41 Strategas: but
00:41 Strategas: 03:36:358 (2,3,4) -
00:41 Strategas: tripple
00:41 Strategas: 03:36:573 (5) -
00:41 Strategas: this definetely doesn't exist
00:41 Strategas: unless some very faint sound from beat before
00:42 Strategas: but noone is gonna kill you for that anyway so whatever xd
00:42 Pho: 03:36:573 (5) - it does, listen closer, it's a d note
00:42 Strategas: don't hear
00:43 Strategas: only the continous sound from
00:43 Strategas: 4
00:43 Strategas: deaf confirmed
00:43 Pho: xddddd
00:44 Strategas: best part is I don't get kudosu for discussing map for an hour xd
00:44 Pho: yea i think i got influenced too hard from the meta at times orz
00:44 Pho: oh no probs, i just savelog this