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toara_fict

1,319 posts

Joined July 2012

toara_fict 2016-12-04T19:58:19+00:00

yuzu__rinrin wrote:
@toara_fict 難易度名「toara」 ? それとも「Toara」 ? (ちょっとだけ疑問に思ったので)

't'oara de okay desu :3

Y O U T A

109 posts

Joined September 2014

Y O U T A 2016-12-14T07:09:36+00:00

JessiChan wrote:
Hello! Sorry for the delay, I have not felt very well. But I'm here. -w-)/ NM request from my queue!

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YOUTA's MUZUKASHII

You can add notes here: 00:25:000 - and here: 00:25:088 - and that they are d l no change
00:30:356 (102,103) - ctrl + g l ok change
Move this: 00:53:302 (192) - to here: 00:53:124 - Because for Muzukashii players it is still difficult to do ddk, kkd, kdd, etc. l ok change
Same here. Move this: 00:56:159 (206) - to here: 00:55:981 - l ^
01:19:106 (302) - d For reasons already mentioned. l changed

Nice Diff! l thank you!

thanks for mod~!

Mrriichi

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Charlotte

1,905 posts

Joined December 2013

Charlotte 2016-12-19T12:55:20+00:00

Hi via m4m

[

about]

d is don note
k is kat note
D is big don note
K is big kat note

[

General]

Good~

[

Kantan]

00:11:606 - dに変更 00:12:320 - スピナー削除して、00:12:320 - と　00:13:034 - にK追加でも良いかと思いました。

[

chaica's Futsuu]

00:02:320 - Finish追加

00:12:320 (25,26) - Finish追加

00:09:641 (18,19) - swap.最初と同様の配色のほうが合います。

00:12:320 (24,25) - Finish追加(?)

00:17:499 (38,39) - swap.00:28:034 (66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73) - のパターンの方が合う感じがします。

00:33:749 (82,83,84,85,86) - ここ一体のリズムを00:34:463 - 1/2左 & 00:34:820 - 1/2左へ移動したほうが、よりfitすると思います

00:43:749 - breakがやや長い..? don追加してもよいかもです。(Option)

01:14:463 - ここは個人的にスピナーよりノーツ拾いたい

01:26:784 (27,28) - swap

[

YOUTA's Muzukashii]

個人的にFinishの使い方がやや気になりました。

いくつか挙げますと

00:24:284 - Finishで強調するような音に感じません。

00:58:034 (214,215,216) - Finish削除、00:58:034 - ここkに変えるだけでも良いのではないかと思いました。

01:13:749 (280,281,282,283) - Finish削除。後のDD Kをより強調できるのではないかと思いました。

Oni2種は他のreqが終わってから見るかもしれません。Good luck

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

yuzu__rinrin 2016-12-20T11:20:36+00:00

Charlotte wrote:
Hi via m4m

[ about]
d is don note
k is kat note
D is big don note
K is big kat note
[ General]

Good~
[ Kantan]

00:11:606 - dに変更 00:12:320 - スピナー削除して、00:12:320 - と　00:13:034 - にK追加でも良いかと思いました。
変えました～
Oni2種は他のreqが終わってから見るかもしれません。Good luck

thank you for modding! Oni二つもやってくれたら嬉しいな...w

Y O U T A

109 posts

Joined September 2014

Y O U T A 2016-12-27T11:02:32+00:00

Charlotte wrote:
[ YOUTA's Muzukashii]

個人的にFinishの使い方がやや気になりました。

いくつか挙げますと

00:24:284 - Finishで強調するような音に感じません。 l その通りです change

00:58:034 (214,215,216) - Finish削除、00:58:034 - ここkに変えるだけでも良いのではないかと思いました。 l 最高です change

01:13:749 (280,281,282,283) - Finish削除。後のDD Kをより強調できるのではないかと思いました。 l 確かに change
Oni2種は他のreqが終わってから見るかもしれません。Good luck

thanks for mod!

ぽきたｗ

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Taka030

62 posts

Joined December 2015

Taka030 2016-12-28T09:35:47+00:00

hi :3

Kantan

00:19:463 (7) - change to k
00:33:749 (23) - change to d
00:43:034 (33) - D change to d,too many big circle,maybe you can reduce some.
00:45:892 (36) - K change to k ^
00:50:177 (41) - K change to k ^
01:16:606 (80,81) - Ctrl + G

Oni

00:12:320 (22) - d change to D
00:17:945 - 00:18:034 - add circle,00:18:392 (22) - delete
00:18:927 (26) - delete
00:21:159 - add d
00:22:499 (15) - add k
00:25:088 (7) - delete
00:29:374 - 00:29:820 same with 00:17:945 - 00:18:034 00:18:392 (22)
00:43:034 (4) - change to K
00:45:534 (3) - change to K
00:54:284 (2) - change to d

hope this can help you ~

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

yuzu__rinrin 2016-12-28T11:43:01+00:00

Taka030 wrote:
hi :3

Kantan
00:19:463 (7) - change to k
no
00:33:749 (23) - change to d
no
00:43:034 (33) - D change to d,too many big circle,maybe you can reduce some.
00:45:892 (36) - K change to k ^
00:50:177 (41) - K change to k ^
u~n... keep
01:16:606 (80,81) - Ctrl + G
ok changed

Oni
00:12:320 (22) - d change to D
ok 00:13:034 (24) - change K
00:17:945 - 00:18:034 - add circle,00:18:392 (22) - delete
ok
00:18:927 (26) - delete
no
00:21:159 - add d
good :3
00:22:499 (15) - add k
no
00:25:088 (7) - delete
no
00:29:374 - 00:29:820 same with 00:17:945 - 00:18:034 00:18:392 (22)
ok
00:43:034 (4) - change to K
00:45:534 (3) - change to K
keep, ;w;
00:54:284 (2) - change to d
ok,changed

hope this can help you ~

Thank you for modding~

Renka

858 posts

Joined May 2014

Renka 2017-01-03T18:23:08+00:00

Charlotte wrote:
Hi via m4m

[ about]
d is don note
k is kat note
D is big don note
K is big kat note
[ General]

Good~
[ chaica's Futsuu]

00:02:320 - Finish追加 - ok

00:12:320 (25,26) - Finish追加 - 00:13:034 (26) - ここだけ追加

00:09:641 (18,19) - swap.最初と同様の配色のほうが合います。 - かえました

00:17:499 (38,39) - swap.00:28:034 (66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73) - のパターンの方が合う感じがします。 - そう思いましたので変えました

00:33:749 (82,83,84,85,86) - ここ一体のリズムを00:34:463 - 1/2左 & 00:34:820 - 1/2左へ移動したほうが、よりfitすると思います - ok.

00:43:749 - breakがやや長い..? don追加してもよいかもです。(Option) - ireta

01:14:463 - ここは個人的にスピナーよりノーツ拾いたい - hirotta

01:26:784 (27,28) - swap - 承諾
Oni2種は他のreqが終わってから見るかもしれません。Good luck

modありがとうございました

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Jonarwhal

1,216 posts

Joined November 2013

Jonarwhal 2017-01-19T23:36:05+00:00

[Kantan]

00:55:534 (50) - / 01:06:963 (65) - I recommend removing these notes because they are inconsistent with your vocal placement patterns in a section where the main focus of the song is the vocals.

[chaica's Futsuu]

00:03:927 (4,5,6,7) - / 00:09:641 (18,19,20,21) - Since these are the same in the music, I recommend you map them more similarly. At least, 00:03:927 (4,5) - / 00:09:641 (18,19) - this part is dk in one section and kd in the other, but I recommend using kd both times because it captures the pitch much better. Same at the end because the pattern repeats.
00:15:713 (33,34) - I recommend ctrl+g here since it seems like you're following vocal emphasis/high pitch and there is more of those 00:15:713 - here rather than 00:15:891 - here. Also do it 00:24:106 (56,57) - / 00:27:141 (64,65) - there for the same reason if you do.
00:43:034 (104) - / 00:45:891 (110) - Switch these to k because these notes are building in emphasis/pitch/anticipation just as the previous note is.
01:03:391 (155,156,157,158,159,160) - Placing this many notes here seems like a little bit of a difficulty spike, consider removing one.

[YOUTA's Muzukashii]

00:36:606 - / 00:42:141 - You should consider removing some notes from this section. You're following the instruments, and this section is relatively calm in terms of the instruments with lost of longer, more held out notes. For example, remove 00:37:320 (129) - this to emphasize the held out guitar 00:37:141 (128) - here, remove 00:38:927 (133) - this to emphasize the held out vocal 00:38:570 - here, 00:40:177 (138) - this for emphasis 00:39:999 (137) - here, etc.

[toara's Oni]

I like this difficulty.
00:33:570 (16) - / 00:34:285 (19) - Switch these to k for emphasis of the vocals.
00:40:356 (45,46) - / 00:43:034 (56,57) - Ctrl+g for emphasis of the vocals.
00:52:320 (99,100) - / 01:03:570 (167,168) - Ctrl+g for emphasis of the vocals.
00:53:391 (107) - Switch this to k for emphasis of the vocals.
00:55:177 (117,118) - Ctrl+g for emphasis of the vocals.

Good Luck~!!

Last edited by Jonarwhal 2017-01-20T21:19:57+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

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Topic Starter

yuzu__rinrin 2017-01-20T10:28:58+00:00

Jonawaga wrote:
[Kantan]

00:55:534 (50) - / 01:06:963 (65) - I recommend removing these notes because they are inconsistent with your vocal placement patterns in a section where the main focus of the song is the vocals.
ok :3
However, I changed it because it is too easy. 00:56:963 - 01:08:391 - add k
Good Luck~!!

thank you for modding !

toara_fict

1,319 posts

Joined July 2012

toara_fict 2017-01-20T16:04:50+00:00

Jonawaga wrote:
[toara's Oni]
I like this difficulty. thank you :3
00:33:570 (16) - / 00:34:285 (19) - Switch these to k for emphasis of the vocals. nope.
00:40:356 (45,46) - / 00:43:034 (56,57) - Ctrl+g for emphasis of the vocals. okay.
00:52:320 (99,100) - / 01:03:570 (167,168) - Ctrl+g for emphasis of the vocals. follow drum sounds.
00:53:391 (107) - Switch this to k for emphasis of the vocals. okay.
00:55:177 (117,118) - Ctrl+g for emphasis of the vocals. okay.
Good Luck~!!

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Renka

858 posts

Joined May 2014

Renka 2017-01-20T17:16:41+00:00

Jonawaga wrote:
[Kantan]
00:55:534 (50) - / 01:06:963 (65) - I recommend removing these notes because they are inconsistent with your vocal placement patterns in a section where the main focus of the song is the vocals.
[chaica's Futsuu]
00:03:927 (4,5,6,7) - / 00:09:641 (18,19,20,21) - Since these are the same in the music, I recommend you map them more similarly. At least, 00:03:927 (4,5) - / 00:09:641 (18,19) - this part is dk in one section and kd in the other, but I recommend using kd both times because it captures the pitch much better. Same at the end because the pattern repeats. - 00:09:641 (18,19) change dk. - ok
00:15:713 (33,34) - I recommend ctrl+g here since it seems like you're following vocal emphasis/high pitch and there is more of those 00:15:713 - here rather than 00:15:891 - here. Also do it 00:24:106 (56,57) - / 00:27:141 (64,65) - there for the same reason if you do. -
00:43:034 (104) - / 00:45:891 (110) - Switch these to k because these notes are building in emphasis/pitch/anticipation just as the previous note is.
01:03:391 (155,156,157,158,159,160) - Placing this many notes here seems like a little bit of a difficulty spike, consider removing one. - nope.It is not fun to be the same as the first kiaitime
Good Luck~!!

thank you for modding.

takenoko

osu file format v14

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Artist:Duca
ArtistUnicode:Duca
Creator:yuzu__rinrin
Version:chaica's Futsuu
Source:恋する気持ちのかさねかた
Tags:Koi Suru Kimochi no Kasanekata Eroge Ending ensemble Visual Novel YOUTA YOUTAEES chaica toara_fict
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Y O U T A

109 posts

Joined September 2014

Y O U T A 2017-01-21T03:51:30+00:00

Jonawaga wrote:
[YOUTA's Muzukashii]
00:36:606 - / 00:42:141 - You should consider removing some notes from this section. You're following the instruments, and this section is relatively calm in terms of the instruments with lost of longer, more held out notes. For example, remove 00:37:320 (129) - this to emphasize the held out guitar 00:37:141 (128) - here, remove 00:38:927 (133) - this to emphasize the held out vocal 00:38:570 - here, 00:40:177 (138) - this for emphasis 00:39:999 (137) - here, etc. l i removed 00:37:320 - and 00:40:177 - 　Thanks for various suggestions
Good Luck~!!

thx for mod~

品種改良をしました

松岡修造

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Smallwu

572 posts

Joined April 2013

Smallwu 2017-01-29T17:51:11+00:00

Hi! ( • ̀ω•́ )
[General]
Nothing wrong, only one thing I want to say : Next time when you update, you can update to Pending Beatmaps >w<
[Oni]
00:18:213 (23) - k I think you should to use same pattern at guitar part, they are too obvious! So use k because 00:17:856 (20) is also k

00:22:320 (15,16) - Ctrl+G Because I think their pitch is Low-High. Maybe you're following voice, but I think follow music will be better

00:22:142 (13,14,17,18) - ( If you do above ) Ctrl+G ~~Just I like >_>~~

00:29:642 (23) - k Reason same as 00:18:213

00:29:999 (24,25,26,27) - k d k k ? Because they sound like that ?o?

01:15:713 (1) - K ? Because the trumpet

01:29:284 - 01:30:712 - They look strange, AiMod no says that but I can move them to the right place. Simply put, move them by yourself

...Well, my painting skill looks like shit. Please let me know if you still can't understand what I mean lol
[toara's Oni]
00:08:034 (35) - k I think it doesn't need to use K. The sound same as like other sounds, so I think use k to keep consistency is better.

00:44:463 (61) - Move to 00:44:641 ? To follow voice

00:59:463 (141) - K to keep consistency, like ( 01:08:035 (195) and 01:09:999 (205) and 01:10:891 (209) )

01:11:249 (210,211,212) - k d k Because cymbals

01:13:749 (223) - D ? I think it's more fit :3

01:14:106 (224,225,226,227,228) - d k d k d ^ :3

01:25:177 (277) - k Reason same as 00:08:034
[YOUTA's Muzukashii]
01:09:999 (264) - K? Because the voice is so high :3 , and the other reason is all of other diffs use K at here, too

Only that ( ×ω× )

=====
Good Luck with Rank!! ヽ(́◕◞౪◟◕‵)ﾉ

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

yuzu__rinrin 2017-01-30T06:09:18+00:00

Smallwu wrote:
Hi! ( • ̀ω•́ ) ( • ̀ω•́ )
[General]
Nothing wrong, only one thing I want to say : Next time when you update, you can update to Pending Beatmaps >w<
ok, This does not really matter much lol
[Oni]
00:18:213 (23) - k I think you should to use same pattern at guitar part, they are too obvious! So use k because 00:17:856 (20) is also k
ok
00:22:320 (15,16) - Ctrl+G Because I think their pitch is Low-High. Maybe you're following voice, but I think follow music will be better
ok
00:22:142 (13,14,17,18) - ( If you do above ) Ctrl+G ~~Just I like >_>~~
ok
00:29:642 (23) - k Reason same as 00:18:213
ok
00:29:999 (24,25,26,27) - k d k k ? Because they sound like that ?o?
ok

01:15:713 (1) - K ? Because the trumpet
ok
01:29:284 - 01:30:712 - They look strange, AiMod no says that but I can move them to the right place. Simply put, move them by yourself
?

...Well, my painting skill looks like shit. Please let me know if you still can't understand what I mean lol
=====
Good Luck with Rank!! ヽ(́◕◞౪◟◕‵)ﾉ

thanks for modding~! ( • ̀ω•́ )
and self modding

Smallwu

572 posts

Joined April 2013

Smallwu 2017-02-01T09:20:42+00:00

yuzu__rinrin wrote:
Smallwu wrote:
Hi! ( • ̀ω•́ ) ( • ̀ω•́ )

01:29:284 - 01:30:712 - They look strange, AiMod no says that but I can move them to the right place. Simply put, move them by yourself
?

>> do like this <<
thanks for modding~! ( • ̀ω•́ )
and self modding what do you mean :3

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

yuzu__rinrin 2017-02-01T13:13:30+00:00

Smallwu wrote:
Hi! ( • ̀ω•́ ) ( • ̀ω•́ )

01:29:284 - 01:30:712 - They look strange, AiMod no says that but I can move them to the right place. Simply put, move them by yourself
?

>> do like this <<
Thank you for redescription . . . (and Thank you for the movie.)
But I did not think it was strange.
01:29:284 - 01:29:641 - 01:29:998 - 01:30:176 - 01:30:355 - 　K
01:30:712 - D
I think that the current state is in good condition.

thanks for modding~! ( • ̀ω•́ )
and self modding what do you mean :3
I just modified myself other than the part that was modded. lol

toara_fict

1,319 posts

Joined July 2012

toara_fict 2017-02-06T23:46:14+00:00

Smallwu wrote:
Hi! ( • ̀ω•́ )

[toara's Oni]
00:08:034 (35) - k I think it doesn't need to use K. The sound same as like other sounds, so I think use k to keep consistency is better.　nope.

00:44:463 (61) - Move to 00:44:641 ? To follow voice ok

00:59:463 (141) - K to keep consistency, like ( 01:08:035 (195) and 01:09:999 (205) and 01:10:891 (209) ) ok

01:11:249 (210,211,212) - k d k Because cymbals ok

01:13:749 (223) - D ? I think it's more fit :3 ok

01:14:106 (224,225,226,227,228) - d k d k d ^ :3 :3

01:25:177 (277) - k Reason same as 00:08:034 ^

thanks ( • ̀ω•́ )

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224,160,58213,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,58391,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,224,58570,1,4,0:0:0:0:
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224,160,59195,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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320,160,64641,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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288,160,69284,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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224,160,69731,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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224,224,69999,1,12,0:0:0:0:
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288,224,90712,1,4,0:0:0:0:

Y O U T A

109 posts

Joined September 2014

Y O U T A 2017-02-07T13:50:37+00:00

Smallwu wrote:
Hi! ( • ̀ω•́ )
[General]
Nothing wrong, only one thing I want to say : Next time when you update, you can update to Pending Beatmaps >w<

[YOUTA's Muzukashii]
01:09:999 (264) - K? Because the voice is so high :3 , and the other reason is all of other diffs use K at here, too l Ok~ change

Only that ( ×ω× ) l no problemヽ(́◕◞౪◟◕‵)ﾉ

=====
Good Luck with Rank!! ヽ(́◕◞౪◟◕‵)ﾉ l thanks!!

thx for mod ╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯
fix point is only one because fix by yuzu__rinrin

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

yuzu__rinrin 2017-02-07T13:53:44+00:00

all diff update~ :3

MidSoul

288 posts

Joined July 2012

MidSoul 2017-03-02T08:57:07+00:00

m4mありがとう！！一度BN様チャレンジしてたと言う事なので結構突っ込んでいった方がよさそうかなと思ったのでちょっとだけ堅めにいきますよ～

一応
d ...ﾄﾞﾝ　　　k ...ｶｯ
D,K ...それぞれ大きいもの
(変化前) > (変化後)　　　です。単独ノーツの場合は省略により変化前の表記がない場合があります。
変化前の形がこちらの表記と違うものであった場合などには私の指摘ミスの可能性が多分にあります。その際はスルーするか考慮していただけると嬉しいです。

気のせいかもしれませんが想定+10ms程度の遅ズレを感じます。
低BPMソングで早い方にずれることはよくあるので一応留意してもらえればと思います。
Muzu
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7462333
GDOni
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7462335
ズレはないものだと思ってプレイした時のMuzuの記録
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7462356

Kantan

00:44:284 (34) - del
00:44:999 (35) - こいつのリズム難感がものすごいので休憩をめっちゃとるのもありかなあと思います。
00:47:320 (38) - del
リズム難が続くので密度を上げなくてもいいかと思います。

00:55:892 (50) - del
01:07:320 (67) - del
定期休憩ポイントにどうでしょうか

00:56:963 (52) - del
00:58:570 - add D
00:56:606 (51,52,53,54) - ここの3連＋1の構成が気に入ってるなら変更するのはキツさあるかもしれないけれど、アクセント強いところに置いた方が良いと感じる人は多いと思う。
やりやすさで言えばこのまま形を変えない方がいいけれど、せっかく曲に合わせた配置ができるのだから使った方が味になるかなぁと思います
00:59:463 (55,56,57,58) - ここも色違いで同様
01:08:034 (68,69,70,71) - 〃

01:13:034 (75) -
1:08～を修正した場合の休憩箇所に

01:18:034 (83) - ここ01:16:606 (81) - よりベース音が上昇しているのでkに戻ってきた方が雰囲気が合うかもしれません。

01:18:749 - add k
ボーカルをとってるのはわかるけどこれは突然現れたリズム難って感じで印象があまりよくないので3連にしちゃったほうがいいかと思う。3連ならばこれまでにもdkdとかのこれより認識難性のあるパターンが普通に使われているから自然かなと思う。

01:28:749 (15) - del
01:30:176 - add K
リズム難を置いておきたいなら最後にもってきた方がアクセントが強い位置に来るのでいいかなと思いました。

chaica's futsuu

パターン中の色変えが非常に多く見受けられます。このような構成は認識難となりやすいのが特徴で、実際の譜面難易度より高難易度の譜面になれたプレイヤーには手の入れ替えが少ない分気楽に叩きやすい反面、適正難易度相当のプレイヤーには難しい印象を与えると予想されるため、色変化に対してやや厳しい指摘があると思います。(正直ここまで色が変わるのはMuzuKashiiレベルだと思う。)この点を予めご了承ください。

00:05:891 (9) - d > k
認識易にもなるし序盤なので色変えの変化が小さい方が自然に導入されやすいかと思います。
前の音に比べベースが上がっているので雰囲気的にもよいかと思います。

00:16:963 (36) - d > k
リズム難が続いているので色変えを減らしたいのとボーカルの流れにkなら沿うかなと思ったためです。

00:20:891 (47) - k > d
次のパート00:21:249 (48,49) - がボーカルから来ていることは明白なのでボーカルの音程に合わせることとdkdkdの流れで予測性を上げてプレイ感の向上になるかと思います。

00:24:284 (57) - k > d
ボーカルの音が下がるところなのでこれまでのながれからはkだと浮いてしまう印象がのこってわずかながらもやもやしました。

00:29:284 (70) - k > d
次の位置00:29:284 (70,71) - で音程が変わらない音が多くそろえた方がいいと思ったためです。

00:32:677 - add notes
やはりここまでの構成上全部2連になっていたところにノーツがないのはちょっとバランスを崩していると感じます。　dでもkでもないよりあった方がいいです

00:33:213 (80) - del
ボーカルとりなのはわかりますが普通譜面での表現箇所には少し厳しいと思うので消した方がいいです。

00:33:391 (81) - k
単純にボーカルが高くそのほかの音も高いのでkの方が響きがいいです。敢えてばらして記述しているのはkdの2連のパターン構成のためにdになっていた箇所だとしても、33:2地点を削除しなかったとしてもここはkの方が響きがいいと感じたためです。

00:33:749 (82,83,84,85,86) - 色反転
このようなボーカルの取り方を進めるなら完全反転した方が響きがよさそうです。

00:39:106 (95,96) - d K > k D
ボーカルに音程を合わせた方が認識易になるしきれいに流れが解消しそうです。

00:43:034 (104) - k
00:45:891 (110) - k
00:49:999 (120,121) - kk
このあたり音が上がっていくイメージがとても強いのでkで終わった方がいいです。

00:52:499 (127) - k
上に書いた理由が強いです。

01:04:106 (158) - del
ここ00:51:963 (125,126,127,128,129) - と同じパターンを使った方がいいです。

01:09:641 (174) - k
ここ01:09:463 (173) - と音をそろえた方が雰囲気が合うと思います。ddでもいいかもしれません。

YOUTA's Muzukashii

00:11:249 (37,38,39,40,41) -
ここまで休憩があまりなく続いている様子だったのでここの構成を1/1ライン上にノーツ置くだけにしても音取りが明確なのでいいかなと思いました。配色は適当で。

00:32:499 (109,110,111,112,113) - d_d_dkk > k_kd_k_
ボーカル取りに変化するのと1/1ライン上からノーツが消えすぎるパターンが合わさっており変化が少し読みづらいかと思ったので、これまでに出できたパターンで流した方がいいと思ったこととカラーリングは変化を与えるためのものです。

00:58:213 (213) - k
音の響きが00:58:034 (212) - と同じこと、ボーカルは上昇しているのであまりkdで下げるのは良くなさそうな気がしました。ここがkだと次のdでのピッチダウンが曲調とよく合います。

01:29:106 (346) - k
・色変えが基本的にパターンマッピングになってるのかなと思うので、次Dでフィニッシュに入るならこの位置01:28:749 (344) - からの音の引き継ぎで響きもきれいですしkでよいかと思います。

toara's Oni

00:21:606 (12,13) - del もしくは　00:21:695 (13) - del
静かなところだから、なくてもいいかもしれません。

00:21:159 - add d
代わりに、00:32:588 (10) - ここと合わせることができるので追加しても良いかも。

Oni

00:15:534 (8) - d > k
00:26:963 (8,9) - 同様
・ここ00:11:963 (21,22) - の音の引っ張り方みて、やっぱりドラムからとっていた方が不自然さが消えるんじゃないかなと思った。ありきたりだけどねｗ

00:16:963 (16) - d > k
これも00:11:963 (21,22) - を根拠にしています。しかしここで00:28:392 (16) - こっちでパターン替えのための手法としてkkを残していて後者のみ採用しているのかという考えに至ったため、またありきたりで申し訳ないけれどパターン替えの提案を加えておきます。
00:16:427 (12,13,14) - を ddd か kkd にする方法だとBN様のウケがいいのではないかなと思いました。

00:30:177 (25,26,27) - kdk > dkd
主観的なものかもしれませんが、ここでパターン替えするならギターの高低に合わせてそのままとっちゃう選択肢はどうでしょうか。現在のkkdkよりは響きが良いように思いました。

00:33:570 (8,9,10,11,12) - ddk k d > ddd d k
ここは大変申し訳ないけどddd d kで一番音に素直になる配置かと思ったので提案させていただきました。。パターン替えでddd k kとか他の形にできないかも考えてみたけど色に偏りができてしまうので一番安直ですが効果のある手入れだと思います。

・00:52:142 (9) - dのベースよりの変化を大事にしたいなら00:52:320 (10) - d
・パターン攻めでよければ00:51:963 (8,9,10) - k k でボーカルの上昇してる9を下げず10で小節頭のdをとると気持ちいいかも。

・上でベース変化のdをとる方向で行くなら00:53:034 (15,16,17,18,19,20) - この辺にd重視のパターンが来ると反転してる感じになってしまうのでk重視でパターンを組んでもっと音を浮かせた方がよさそうです。例として k dkd k d　のようなもの。
・そうでない場合にもこのd dkd d kには若干違和感がありそうなので00:53:213 (16) - k としたほうがいいと思います。

00:54:284 (2,3) - d d > どちらかをkに
主観です。なくてもよいと思います。後方の00:55:534 (9,10,11) - と合わせるのに00:54:284 (2) - kとしたほうが若干良い気がします。

01:00:267 (6) - d > k
ここ01:00:177 (5) - のkはボーカルのアクセントから来ているような気がします。ボーカルはこの位置では長音ですし色変えは長い区間で徐々に行った方が印象的な違和感を与えないといえるでしょう。もしボーカル以外の音から来ているとしてもほとんどの音が長音で構成されているためこの中央のkを悪目立ちさせないためにも重要な箇所だと考えます。
01:11:695 (10) - について同様です。

01:04:642 (15) - k　または　01:04:999 (18,19) - d k > k d
00:51:963 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - この区間での変更に合わせて変更するとよいと思います。もちろん、変更がない場合はそのままの方がパターンバランスを保てると思います。

ノーツが少ない方向でまとめたければ
01:14:463 (3,4) - dd > kk としてかつ
01:14:999 (5) - del
とすることでベースの音に合わせて配色が変化する合理性と浮遊感をとれるんじゃないかなと思います。
もしノーツを増やしてもよいなら一例として
01:14:284 - add d
01:14:463 (3) - d > k
01:14:641 - add d 01:14:731 - add d
01:14:820 (4) - d > k
これでもこの部分のスピード感の演出には足るかと思います。

01:18:213 (13) - k > d
01:18:392 (14) - d > k
01:18:927 (19) - d
それぞれボーカルの高さとドラムアクセントを拾うのに適した形だと思います。

01:20:891 - add d
ドラムの音しか目立つものはありませんが非常に目立つので追加してあげた方がいいと思います。わずかですが01:19:463 (1) - これより後の区間で急激にノーツが減っていてバランスが崩れているような印象の払拭にもなるかと思います。
01:26:606 - について同様です。

01:24:463 - add d
上述同様の理由からなりますが感覚的に別物なので分けました。

少し長くなりました。toara's Oniは取り方が定まってるのでかなり予測しやすい流れができているのですが、ほかの難易度については色の流れが頻繁に変わる印象を受けました。そういったマッピングの方法もあるので一概には言えないのですが、たとえば今後BNに提出した際に考えられることとしてYOUTA'ｓMuzukashiiなどは(場所ごとの統一はできておりまとまりはありましたが、)色の変わり方がドラム寄りの反面主旋律構成重視のノーツ位置パターンが来るところがあり、こういったものをとってる音か流れを明確にするために突っ込んで言われると膨大な数の指摘が来るなんてこともあるかもしれません。
もし何かあれば追加で見ようかなと思うので呼んでくだしあ。

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

yuzu__rinrin 2017-03-02T10:03:01+00:00

MidSoul wrote:
m4mありがとう！！一度BN様チャレンジしてたと言う事なので結構突っ込んでいった方がよさそうかなと思ったのでちょっとだけ堅めにいきますよ～

一応
d ...ﾄﾞﾝ　　　k ...ｶｯ
D,K ...それぞれ大きいもの
(変化前) > (変化後)　　　です。単独ノーツの場合は省略により変化前の表記がない場合があります。
変化前の形がこちらの表記と違うものであった場合などには私の指摘ミスの可能性が多分にあります。その際はスルーするか考慮していただけると嬉しいです。

気のせいかもしれませんが想定+10ms程度の遅ズレを感じます。
低BPMソングで早い方にずれることはよくあるので一応留意してもらえればと思います。
Muzu
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7462333
GDOni
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7462335
ズレはないものだと思ってプレイした時のMuzuの記録
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7462356

全難易度update後に変えたいと思います～

Kantan
00:44:284 (34) - del
00:44:999 (35) - こいつのリズム難感がものすごいので休憩をめっちゃとるのもありかなあと思います。
00:47:320 (38) - del
リズム難が続くので密度を上げなくてもいいかと思います。
おｋです

00:55:892 (50) - del
01:07:320 (67) - del
定期休憩ポイントにどうでしょうか
ok

00:56:963 (52) - del
00:58:570 - add D
00:56:606 (51,52,53,54) - ここの3連＋1の構成が気に入ってるなら変更するのはキツさあるかもしれないけれど、アクセント強いところに置いた方が良いと感じる人は多いと思う。
やりやすさで言えばこのまま形を変えない方がいいけれど、せっかく曲に合わせた配置ができるのだから使った方が味になるかなぁと思います
00:59:463 (55,56,57,58) - ここも色違いで同様
01:08:034 (68,69,70,71) - 〃
これ変えちゃいました、こっちの方が曲知ってる人には叩きやすそうですね

01:13:034 (75) -
1:08～を修正した場合の休憩箇所に
ok

01:18:034 (83) - ここ01:16:606 (81) - よりベース音が上昇しているのでkに戻ってきた方が雰囲気が合うかもしれません。
おｋです

01:18:749 - add k
ボーカルをとってるのはわかるけどこれは突然現れたリズム難って感じで印象があまりよくないので3連にしちゃったほうがいいかと思う。3連ならばこれまでにもdkdとかのこれより認識難性のあるパターンが普通に使われているから自然かなと思う。
kkdにしました、一生懸命vocalねじ込みたかったんだと思う。

01:28:749 (15) - del
01:30:176 - add K
リズム難を置いておきたいなら最後にもってきた方がアクセントが強い位置に来るのでいいかなと思いました。
これはgood,かえました

Oni
00:15:534 (8) - d > k
00:26:963 (8,9) - 同様
・ここ00:11:963 (21,22) - の音の引っ張り方みて、やっぱりドラムからとっていた方が不自然さが消えるんじゃないかなと思った。ありきたりだけどねｗ
changed. ありきたりでも良いと思いマス。

00:16:963 (16) - d > k
これも00:11:963 (21,22) - を根拠にしています。しかしここで00:28:392 (16) - こっちでパターン替えのための手法としてkkを残していて後者のみ採用しているのかという考えに至ったため、またありきたりで申し訳ないけれどパターン替えの提案を加えておきます。
00:16:427 (12,13,14) - を ddd か kkd にする方法だとBN様のウケがいいのではないかなと思いました。
kkdに変更、dddよりかはk織り交ぜたほうが楽しい(はず)

00:30:177 (25,26,27) - kdk > dkd
主観的なものかもしれませんが、ここでパターン替えするならギターの高低に合わせてそのままとっちゃう選択肢はどうでしょうか。現在のkkdkよりは響きが良いように思いました。
いいかもchanged

00:33:570 (8,9,10,11,12) - ddk k d > ddd d k
ここは大変申し訳ないけどddd d kで一番音に素直になる配置かと思ったので提案させていただきました。。パターン替えでddd k kとか他の形にできないかも考えてみたけど色に偏りができてしまうので一番安直ですが効果のある手入れだと思います。
ddk-d-kもやってみたけどddd-d-kの方がヨカッタ。changed.

・00:52:142 (9) - dのベースよりの変化を大事にしたいなら00:52:320 (10) - d
・パターン攻めでよければ00:51:963 (8,9,10) - k k でボーカルの上昇してる9を下げず10で小節頭のdをとると気持ちいいかも。
vocal大好きなのでk-k-dでとっていこうと思います

・上でベース変化のdをとる方向で行くなら00:53:034 (15,16,17,18,19,20) - この辺にd重視のパターンが来ると反転してる感じになってしまうのでk重視でパターンを組んでもっと音を浮かせた方がよさそうです。例として k dkd k d　のようなもの。
・そうでない場合にもこのd dkd d kには若干違和感がありそうなので00:53:213 (16) - k としたほうがいいと思います。
頑張って合わせた結果k-dkd-k-dになりました(そのままという)

00:54:284 (2,3) - d d > どちらかをkに
主観です。なくてもよいと思います。後方の00:55:534 (9,10,11) - と合わせるのに00:54:284 (2) - kとしたほうが若干良い気がします。
00:54:463 (3) - をkに... 00:54:106 (1,2,3) - と00:55:534 (9,10,11) - で反転取れるし00:54:106 (1,3,6) - でいい感じにkなるので(?)

01:00:267 (6) - d > k
ここ01:00:177 (5) - のkはボーカルのアクセントから来ているような気がします。ボーカルはこの位置では長音ですし色変えは長い区間で徐々に行った方が印象的な違和感を与えないといえるでしょう。もしボーカル以外の音から来ているとしてもほとんどの音が長音で構成されているためこの中央のkを悪目立ちさせないためにも重要な箇所だと考えます。
01:11:695 (10) - について同様です。
納得、changed

01:04:642 (15) - k　または　01:04:999 (18,19) - d k > k d
00:51:963 (8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - この区間での変更に合わせて変更するとよいと思います。もちろん、変更がない場合はそのままの方がパターンバランスを保てると思います。
指定してもらった区間に合わせて、ここは色々と変えてみたり,,,　統一性はかけてないと思います...

ノーツが少ない方向でまとめたければ
01:14:463 (3,4) - dd > kk としてかつ
01:14:999 (5) - del
とすることでベースの音に合わせて配色が変化する合理性と浮遊感をとれるんじゃないかなと思います。
もしノーツを増やしてもよいなら一例として
01:14:284 - add d
01:14:463 (3) - d > k
01:14:641 - add d 01:14:731 - add d
01:14:820 (4) - d > k
これでもこの部分のスピード感の演出には足るかと思います。

01:18:213 (13) - k > d
01:18:392 (14) - d > k
01:18:927 (19) - d
それぞれボーカルの高さとドラムアクセントを拾うのに適した形だと思います。

一番上の難易度なので増やす案を採用

01:20:891 - add d
ドラムの音しか目立つものはありませんが非常に目立つので追加してあげた方がいいと思います。わずかですが01:19:463 (1) - これより後の区間で急激にノーツが減っていてバランスが崩れているような印象の払拭にもなるかと思います。
01:26:606 - について同様です。

01:24:463 - add d
上述同様の理由からなりますが感覚的に別物なので分けました。
最後だし最初と全部同じのも...って思ったので変えさせてもらいました :3

少し長くなりました。toara's Oniは取り方が定まってるのでかなり予測しやすい流れができているのですが、ほかの難易度については色の流れが頻繁に変わる印象を受けました。そういったマッピングの方法もあるので一概には言えないのですが、たとえば今後BNに提出した際に考えられることとしてYOUTA'ｓMuzukashiiなどは(場所ごとの統一はできておりまとまりはありましたが、)色の変わり方がドラム寄りの反面主旋律構成重視のノーツ位置パターンが来るところがあり、こういったものをとってる音か流れを明確にするために突っ込んで言われると膨大な数の指摘が来るなんてこともあるかもしれません。
もし何かあれば追加で見ようかなと思うので呼んでくだしあ。MidSoul神なのでピンチの時召喚しようとおもいます

Modアリガトウございました、めっちゃ納得して変えた部分多かったし少しはよくなった（はず）

toara_fict

1,319 posts

Joined July 2012

toara_fict 2017-03-02T23:56:56+00:00

MidSoul wrote:
toara's Oni
00:21:606 (12,13) - del もしくは　00:21:695 (13) - del
静かなところだから、なくてもいいかもしれません。

00:21:159 - add d
代わりに、00:32:588 (10) - ここと合わせることができるので追加しても良いかも。

こんな感じに　指摘箇所これだけかい　https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7467825

:3

Oni

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Y O U T A

109 posts

Joined September 2014

Y O U T A 2017-03-03T13:57:17+00:00

MidSoul wrote:
m4mありがとう！！一度BN様チャレンジしてたと言う事なので結構突っ込んでいった方がよさそうかなと思ったのでちょっとだけ堅めにいきますよ～

一応
d ...ﾄﾞﾝ　　　k ...ｶｯ
D,K ...それぞれ大きいもの
(変化前) > (変化後)　　　です。単独ノーツの場合は省略により変化前の表記がない場合があります。
変化前の形がこちらの表記と違うものであった場合などには私の指摘ミスの可能性が多分にあります。その際はスルーするか考慮していただけると嬉しいです。

気のせいかもしれませんが想定+10ms程度の遅ズレを感じます。
低BPMソングで早い方にずれることはよくあるので一応留意してもらえればと思います。
Muzu
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7462333
GDOni
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7462335
ズレはないものだと思ってプレイした時のMuzuの記録
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7462356

YOUTA's Muzukashii
00:11:249 (37,38,39,40,41) -
ここまで休憩があまりなく続いている様子だったのでここの構成を1/1ライン上にノーツ置くだけにしても音取りが明確なのでいいかなと思いました。配色は適当で。 l d_k_kにしました

00:32:499 (109,110,111,112,113) - d_d_dkk > k_kd_k_
ボーカル取りに変化するのと1/1ライン上からノーツが消えすぎるパターンが合わさっており変化が少し読みづらいかと思ったので、これまでに出できたパターンで流した方がいいと思ったこととカラーリングは変化を与えるためのものです。 l OK

00:58:213 (213) - k
音の響きが00:58:034 (212) - と同じこと、ボーカルは上昇しているのであまりkdで下げるのは良くなさそうな気がしました。ここがkだと次のdでのピッチダウンが曲調とよく合います。 l OK

01:29:106 (346) - k
・色変えが基本的にパターンマッピングになってるのかなと思うので、次Dでフィニッシュに入るならこの位置01:28:749 (344) - からの音の引き継ぎで響きもきれいですしkでよいかと思います。 l OK

Modありがとうございます

しゅがてん

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yuzu__rinrin

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yuzu__rinrin 2017-03-15T14:10:48+00:00

chaicaがBAN(半制限)されたので代理投稿

MidSoul wrote:
m4mありがとう！！一度BN様チャレンジしてたと言う事なので結構突っ込んでいった方がよさそうかなと思ったのでちょっとだけ堅めにいきますよ～

一応
d ...ﾄﾞﾝ　　　k ...ｶｯ
D,K ...それぞれ大きいもの
(変化前) > (変化後)　　　です。単独ノーツの場合は省略により変化前の表記がない場合があります。
変化前の形がこちらの表記と違うものであった場合などには私の指摘ミスの可能性が多分にあります。その際はスルーするか考慮していただけると嬉しいです。

[chaica's futsuu]パターン中の色変えが非常に多く見受けられます。このような構成は認識難となりやすいのが特徴で、実際の譜面難易度より高難易度の譜面になれたプレイヤーには手の入れ替えが少ない分気楽に叩きやすい反面、適正難易度相当のプレイヤーには難しい印象を与えると予想されるため、色変化に対してやや厳しい指摘があると思います。(正直ここまで色が変わるのはMuzuKashiiレベルだと思う。)この点を予めご了承ください。

00:05:891 (9) - d > k
認識易にもなるし序盤なので色変えの変化が小さい方が自然に導入されやすいかと思います。
前の音に比べベースが上がっているので雰囲気的にもよいかと思います。

00:16:963 (36) - d > k
リズム難が続いているので色変えを減らしたいのとボーカルの流れにkなら沿うかなと思ったためです。

00:20:891 (47) - k > d
次のパート00:21:249 (48,49) - がボーカルから来ていることは明白なのでボーカルの音程に合わせることとdkdkdの流れで予測性を上げてプレイ感の向上になるかと思います。

00:24:284 (57) - k > d
ボーカルの音が下がるところなのでこれまでのながれからはkだと浮いてしまう印象がのこってわずかながらもやもやしました。

00:29:284 (70) - k > d
次の位置00:29:284 (70,71) - で音程が変わらない音が多くそろえた方がいいと思ったためです。

00:32:677 - add notes
やはりここまでの構成上全部2連になっていたところにノーツがないのはちょっとバランスを崩していると感じます。　dでもkでもないよりあった方がいいです

00:33:213 (80) - del
ボーカルとりなのはわかりますが普通譜面での表現箇所には少し厳しいと思うので消した方がいいです。

00:33:391 (81) - k
単純にボーカルが高くそのほかの音も高いのでkの方が響きがいいです。敢えてばらして記述しているのはkdの2連のパターン構成のためにdになっていた箇所だとしても、33:2地点を削除しなかったとしてもここはkの方が響きがいいと感じたためです。

00:33:749 (82,83,84,85,86) - 色反転
このようなボーカルの取り方を進めるなら完全反転した方が響きがよさそうです。

00:39:106 (95,96) - d K > k D
ボーカルに音程を合わせた方が認識易になるしきれいに流れが解消しそうです。

00:43:034 (104) - k
00:45:891 (110) - k
00:49:999 (120,121) - kk
このあたり音が上がっていくイメージがとても強いのでkで終わった方がいいです。

00:52:499 (127) - k
上に書いた理由が強いです。　no change

01:04:106 (158) - del
ここ00:51:963 (125,126,127,128,129) - と同じパターンを使った方がいいです。 deleted

01:09:641 (174) - k
ここ01:09:463 (173) - と音をそろえた方が雰囲気が合うと思います。ddでもいいかもしれません。

no comment = fix

Midsoulさんアリガトウアリガトウ....

and offset+10 ~

Skylish

1,070 posts

Joined June 2013

Skylish 2017-03-24T01:00:40+00:00

Hi, M4M from my queue, and sorry for waiting so long, I am literally busy.

[General]

> How about unifying the vol. at 00:00:902 - and 00:02:330 - ? You can directly use 80% at 00:00:902 -, and remove 00:02:330 - which is not needed.

> Chaica: Remove the green timing point at 00:02:330 - is already fine, since it is not in effects.

[Kantan]

> 00:43:044 (33,35) - normal notes suit more imo, since the vocal weakens a bit and the use of Finisher may be too close for Kantan level player.

^ 00:46:616 - ^ if you adopt the above suggestion, you can see that a clear Finish should be shown here as the vocal reaches the climax with instrumental on-beat support.

> 00:50:187 - either removing it or changing it to normal note would work well. Finisher is only used in the case of vocal+instrument (based on your mapping style shown before). Personally I tend to delete it to make the mapping channel become more clearer(following vocal).

# 00:58:580 - / 01:01:437 - I want to point out that Finishers right here fit the music in Kiai session because they dynamic of them are stronger than 00:43:044 (33,35) -. (That's why I prefer a N n pattern at 00:43:044 (33,35) -)

> 01:10:009 - a familiar D should be added, it feels strange to leave it blank. It is similar to 00:58:580 - .

> 01:30:186 - How about shifting it 1/2 backward to fall on an on-beat? Falling on 01:30:008 - can also show a good consistency with 01:29:294 - (the usage of Finisher on on-beat)

[Oni]

> 00:12:151 - It sounds a bit unnecessary and should be removed. It is a void note I guess since there is nothing at the background. The music has a clear break right here, so as the map should demonstrate a break here.

> 00:17:151 - how about changing it to d to enhance the flow? k k k at 00:16:973 (16,17,18) - seem quite weird for a monotonous mapping style.

> 00:30:544 - it should be remained as a concrete k because of a drum kick at the 4th beat. 00:30:009 - You may have variance like kkdk instead of kdkd <-- out of mapping track a bit, not consistent.

> 00:49:294 - I think D (for vocal accent)fits the pattern you used more. A great contrast can be shown at 00:49:651 - , K for instrumental part.

> 00:50:544 - you may add a note here because this 1 whole bar gap seems too huge.

> 00:58:223 - kdk seems smoother than a kkd linking to D (at 00:58:580 - ) . If you think D kdk D is too difficult, you may neglect this suggestion, but I consider the flow more than the difficulty of patterns used.

> 01:00:098 - anti-consistent d here. This 5-plets comes up so suddenly in the first part of Kiai (yeah you should build up the density in the second part of Kiai). Please consider remove it, although you may want a slicely increasing density right before the 2nd part.

> 01:21:169 - / 01:26:884 - you may add a k at these timings respectively because those 1/2 patterns are too long, without density variance, kinda numb to it for longer than 1 bar.

[Chaica's Futsuu]

> 00:38:401 - a 1/2 pattern here seems outstanding from 00:36:616 - to 00:41:437 - . Removing 00:38:401 - can make the overall structure here neater, and more consistent. Density should stay relative low here for a building-up effect.

> 00:46:616 - Another 1/2 pattern grabs my attention. d K may be hard for Futsuu level to play it. Also, I would like to suggest changing it to a normal note, for the sake of emphasis on 00:49:294 - which is the end of vocal and the start of introduction of a new session linking to Kiai.

> 00:58:580 - / 01:10:009 - / 01:15:723 - According to your mapping style at 00:13:044 (26) - , I think Finishers should suit at these timings due to the strong melody (maybe trumpet or saxophone, I can't identify).

[YOUTA's Muzukashii]

(Is it my first time to mod your difficulty? Hi!

)

> 00:11:973 - changing it to k for the consistency of melody channel. 00:11:259 - / 00:11:616 - / 00:11:973 - are the places(timings) where/ when the melody have some changes. 00:11:973 - can be better shown with a kat.

> 00:18:580 (60,61) - ctrl+G, the pitch goes like k d rather than d k.

^ 00:19:116 - changing it to k, so as to make the pattern looks less boring, and emphasize the on-beat d at 00:19:473 - . Moreover, a concrete k can be formed on a white kick (the 4th beat).

> 00:20:723 (68,69,70) - these three off-beat d sound too off track. They jump out from the mapping channel(vocal) suddenly. Try this: 00:20:901 (68) -

00:20:901 - follow those 4 1/2 vocals, similar to 00:23:759 - ;
00:21:437 (71,72,73) - k kk is introduced because the guitar plug continue from 00:21:437 - to 00:21:973 - , meanwhile, I think dk for 00:21:794 (72,73) - will be too clumsy as I suggested dddk before. That's why I would use kk at 00:21:794 (72,73) - .

> 00:27:509 - move it to 00:27:866 - , and change 00:27:687 - to k. 00:27:151 (90,91,92,93,94) - should have the same structure with 00:15:723 (50,51,52,53,54) - for the sake of consistency. Also, if you want some variation, you may change 00:27:866 - to k, that's would be nice as well.

> 00:30:009 - how about kkdk? 00:30:544 - should be a k, same as 00:19:116 - . 00:30:009 (100,101) - k k can show a consistent mapping style if you adopt the above suggestion at 00:27:866 - . (In this case, it shows variance with 00:18:580 - kddk)

> 00:32:151 (108,109,110) - same as 00:20:723 (68,69,70) - , I just leave it to you. 00:32:866 - this should be kat due to the presence of guitar plug.

> 00:33:223 - / 00:33:937 - / 00:34:651 - I would prefer following these 3 groups of vocal as they are really the spotlight right here, although you attempted to map according to the guitar and drums. If mapping channel shifts so suddenly, the players may be confused. It is still fine if you want to retain the mapping style at 00:33:759 - , that would not be too weird I guess...

> 00:36:259 - a kat here can show a great contrast with the upcoming D at 00:36:616 - . Also, it has a higher pitch than 00:35:901 - , thereby changing 00:36:259 - it to k.

> 00:38:937 - remove it to stay consistent with the gap at 00:37:509 - .

> 00:39:473 (135) - how about changing it to K? The pitch is the highest.

> 00:44:116 (150) - maybe try this:

I would comment on your current patterns too bored, and the off beat jumpy style alter to formal and constant mapping style suddenly. That's a great and unexpected pattern phrase.
00:45:009 - this is remained as D, fyi

> 00:49:651 (174,175,176) - I do believe that these Finishers are overmapped. They are too noisy, clumsy, and difficult to hit, due to confusion of sequential finishers. Just change them to normal d, and let the K(s) stand out, that'd be very nice already.

> 00:55:009 - shift it to 00:54:294 - and change it to d. Compare the pattern at 00:54:116 - and 01:05:544 - , I think the one at 01:05:544 - suites the song more, with a 1/1 gap between 01:06:259 (248,249) - . Hence, you should try keep the pattern consistent at both timings because they are identical. ( 01:05:723 - may change to kat for variation)

> 00:58:044 - / 01:00:901 - / 01:09:473 - the patterns following up should be identical. I prefer using 'nn N' pattern. 00:58:580 - / 01:01:437 - there are melody accents. Make them consistent anyway.

> 01:13:223 - How about changing it to d? Then a mirror pattern can be formed at 01:11:259 - and 01:12:509 -

> 01:29:294 - ummm... What do you think about K K KKK D ? 01:29:294 (348,349,350,351,352) - have higher pitches than 01:30:722 - . The pitch of 01:29:294 - is also higher than that of 01:29:115 - , emphasis should also be made, thereby changing it to K.

< 01:15:187 - this NN N is fine, due to the strong instrumental part.

[Toara's Oni]
* Make a small mod here:

> 00:00:902 - 100% volume is a way too loud for the drum introduction. 40~50% would be much finer.

[]

Sorry for such a delay, I am still very busy

GL on this mapset, it is solid already. Muzukashii should be polished more before a BN check.

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

yuzu__rinrin 2017-03-26T04:50:14+00:00

Skylish wrote:
Hi, M4M from my queue, and sorry for waiting so long, I am literally busy.

[General]

> How about unifying the vol. at 00:00:902 - and 00:02:330 - ? You can directly use 80% at 00:00:902 -, and remove 00:02:330 - which is not needed.
ok thanks.
とあらdiff以外置かれてないから一気に変更しました、とあらさんだけそこだけ音量自由に変えちゃって大丈夫ですW

> Chaica: Remove the green timing point at 00:02:330 - is already fine, since it is not in effects.
ok

[Kantan]

> 00:43:044 (33,35) - normal notes suit more imo, since the vocal weakens a bit and the use of Finisher may be too close for Kantan level player.

^ 00:46:616 - ^ if you adopt the above suggestion, you can see that a clear Finish should be shown here as the vocal reaches the climax with instrumental on-beat support.
No, I think that recognition becomes easy by having two large notes.
There is a possibility that it will be confusing if a small note suddenly comes.

> 00:50:187 - either removing it or changing it to normal note would work well. Finisher is only used in the case of vocal+instrument (based on your mapping style shown before). Personally I tend to delete it to make the mapping channel become more clearer(following vocal).
ok

# 00:58:580 - / 01:01:437 - I want to point out that Finishers right here fit the music in Kiai session because they dynamic of them are stronger than 00:43:044 (33,35) -. (That's why I prefer a N n pattern at 00:43:044 (33,35) -)

> 01:10:009 - a familiar D should be added, it feels strange to leave it blank. It is similar to 00:58:580 - .
ok www

> 01:30:186 - How about shifting it 1/2 backward to fall on an on-beat? Falling on 01:30:008 - can also show a good consistency with 01:29:294 - (the usage of Finisher on on-beat)
keep... I feel strange when I return to on-beat. . .

[Oni]

> 00:12:151 - It sounds a bit unnecessary and should be removed. It is a void note I guess since there is nothing at the background. The music has a clear break right here, so as the map should demonstrate a break here.
ok

> 00:17:151 - how about changing it to d to enhance the flow? k k k at 00:16:973 (16,17,18) - seem quite weird for a monotonous mapping style.
umm,,, no change. I am mapping along vocal.

> 00:30:544 - it should be remained as a concrete k because of a drum kick at the 4th beat. 00:30:009 - You may have variance like kkdk instead of kdkd <-- out of mapping track a bit, not consistent.
change kdkk

> 00:49:294 - I think D (for vocal accent)fits the pattern you used more. A great contrast can be shown at 00:49:651 - , K for instrumental part.
Keep, if the same opinion comes out else, I will change it.　:3

> 00:50:544 - you may add a note here because this 1 whole bar gap seems too huge.
ok

> 00:58:223 - kdk seems smoother than a kkd linking to D (at 00:58:580 - ) . If you think D kdk D is too difficult, you may neglect this suggestion, but I consider the flow more than the difficulty of patterns used.
change kdk

> 01:00:098 - anti-consistent d here. This 5-plets comes up so suddenly in the first part of Kiai (yeah you should build up the density in the second part of Kiai). Please consider remove it, although you may want a slicely increasing density right before the 2nd part.
no change. I think that 2nd part is okay because it has higher density than this.

> 01:21:169 - / 01:26:884 - you may add a k at these timings respectively because those 1/2 patterns are too long, without density variance, kinda numb to it for longer than 1 bar.
ok, nice feeling :3

Sorry for such a delay, I am still very busy GL on this mapset, it is solid already. Muzukashii should be polished more before a BN check.

thank you for modding Skylish~

Y O U T A

109 posts

Joined September 2014

Y O U T A 2017-03-26T06:54:09+00:00

Skylish wrote:
Hi, M4M from my queue, and sorry for waiting so long, I am literally busy.

[YOUTA's Muzukashii]

(Is it my first time to mod your difficulty? Hi! )

> 00:11:973 - changing it to k for the consistency of melody channel. 00:11:259 - / 00:11:616 - / 00:11:973 - are the places(timings) where/ when the melody have some changes. 00:11:973 - can be better shown with a kat. l OK

> 00:18:580 (60,61) - ctrl+G, the pitch goes like k d rather than d k. l OK

^ 00:19:116 - changing it to k, so as to make the pattern looks less boring, and emphasize the on-beat d at 00:19:473 - . Moreover, a concrete k can be formed on a white kick (the 4th beat). l OK

> 00:20:723 (68,69,70) - these three off-beat d sound too off track. They jump out from the mapping channel(vocal) suddenly. Try this: 00:20:901 (68) -

00:20:901 - follow those 4 1/2 vocals, similar to 00:23:759 - ;
00:21:437 (71,72,73) - k kk is introduced because the guitar plug continue from 00:21:437 - to 00:21:973 - , meanwhile, I think dk for 00:21:794 (72,73) - will be too clumsy as I suggested dddk before. That's why I would use kk at 00:21:794 (72,73) - . l all OK

> 00:27:509 - move it to 00:27:866 - , and change 00:27:687 - to k. 00:27:151 (90,91,92,93,94) - should have the same structure with 00:15:723 (50,51,52,53,54) - for the sake of consistency. Also, if you want some variation, you may change 00:27:866 - to k, that's would be nice as well. l OK

> 00:30:009 - how about kkdk? 00:30:544 - should be a k, same as 00:19:116 - . 00:30:009 (100,101) - k k can show a consistent mapping style if you adopt the above suggestion at 00:27:866 - . (In this case, it shows variance with 00:18:580 - kddk) l OK

> 00:32:151 (108,109,110) - same as 00:20:723 (68,69,70) - , I just leave it to you. 00:32:866 - this should be kat due to the presence of guitar plug. l OK

> 00:33:223 - / 00:33:937 - / 00:34:651 - I would prefer following these 3 groups of vocal as they are really the spotlight right here, although you attempted to map according to the guitar and drums. If mapping channel shifts so suddenly, the players may be confused. It is still fine if you want to retain the mapping style at 00:33:759 - , that would not be too weird I guess... l i change dkk dkd kkd

> 00:36:259 - a kat here can show a great contrast with the upcoming D at 00:36:616 - . Also, it has a higher pitch than 00:35:901 - , thereby changing 00:36:259 - it to k. l OK

> 00:38:937 - remove it to stay consistent with the gap at 00:37:509 - . l OK

> 00:39:473 (135) - how about changing it to K? The pitch is the highest. l OK

> 00:44:116 (150) - maybe try this:
I would comment on your current patterns too bored, and the off beat jumpy style alter to formal and constant mapping style suddenly. That's a great and unexpected pattern phrase.
00:45:009 - this is remained as D, fyi l all OK

> 00:49:651 (174,175,176) - I do believe that these Finishers are overmapped. They are too noisy, clumsy, and difficult to hit, due to confusion of sequential finishers. Just change them to normal d, and let the K(s) stand out, that'd be very nice already. l OK

> 00:55:009 - shift it to 00:54:294 - and change it to d. Compare the pattern at 00:54:116 - and 01:05:544 - , I think the one at 01:05:544 - suites the song more, with a 1/1 gap between 01:06:259 (248,249) - . Hence, you should try keep the pattern consistent at both timings because they are identical. ( 01:05:723 - may change to kat for variation) l all OK

> 00:58:044 - / 01:00:901 - / 01:09:473 - the patterns following up should be identical. I prefer using 'nn N' pattern. 00:58:580 - / 01:01:437 - there are melody accents. Make them consistent anyway. l OK

> 01:13:223 - How about changing it to d? Then a mirror pattern can be formed at 01:11:259 - and 01:12:509 - l OK

> 01:29:294 - ummm... What do you think about K K KKK D ? 01:29:294 (348,349,350,351,352) - have higher pitches than 01:30:722 - . The pitch of 01:29:294 - is also higher than that of 01:29:115 - , emphasis should also be made, thereby changing it to K. l all OK

< 01:15:187 - this NN N is fine, due to the strong instrumental part. l ok desu

thx for mod

I was able to make the mapping style consistent.

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toara_fict

1,319 posts

Joined July 2012

toara_fict 2017-03-26T09:04:52+00:00

Skylish wrote:
Hi, M4M from my queue, and sorry for waiting so long, I am literally busy.

[Toara's Oni]
* Make a small mod here:

> 00:00:902 - 100% volume is a way too loud for the drum introduction. 40~50% would be much finer. change 60%

[]

Sorry for such a delay, I am still very busy GL on this mapset, it is solid already. Muzukashii should be polished more before a BN check.

@yuzuri : 60%に変えておいてください

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

yuzu__rinrin 2017-03-26T11:50:02+00:00

toara_fict wrote:
@yuzuri : 60%に変えておいてください

ok fixed.
YOUTA's Muzu and toara's Oni update.

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

yuzu__rinrin 2017-03-30T14:49:02+00:00

Skylish wrote:
Hi, M4M from my queue, and sorry for waiting so long, I am literally busy.

[Chaica's Futsuu]

> 00:38:401 - a 1/2 pattern here seems outstanding from 00:36:616 - to 00:41:437 - . Removing 00:38:401 - can make the overall structure here neater, and more consistent. Density should stay relative low here for a building-up effect.
remove 00:38:401 -
00:39:116 (94,95) - d k

> 00:46:616 - Another 1/2 pattern grabs my attention. d K may be hard for Futsuu level to play it. Also, I would like to suggest changing it to a normal note, for the sake of emphasis on 00:49:294 - which is the end of vocal and the start of introduction of a new session linking to Kiai.
00:49:294 - remove finish

> 00:58:580 - / 01:10:009 - / 01:15:723 - According to your mapping style at 00:13:044 (26) - , I think Finishers should suit at these timings due to the strong melody (maybe trumpet or saxophone, I can't identify).
00:58:580 - 01:10:009 - 01:15:723 - add finish

thank you for modding~

chaica's Futsuu Update

Nekoharu

42 posts

Joined June 2015

Nekoharu 2017-04-07T02:50:37+00:00

M4Mありがとうございました！
遅くなってすみません、譜面が良すぎて全て同じような提案です...

Mod

[Oni]

00:42:687 (3,4) - change to K K? ボーカル合わせです

00:43:401 (5) - change to d? ^

00:45:544 (3,4) - change to K K? ^

00:46:259 (5) - change to d? ^

00:46:616 (6) - change to k? ^

[YOUTA's Muzukashii]
00:05:009 (12) - change to k? Oniと合わせる為です

00:10:723 (35) - ^

01:22:151 (317) - ^

01:27:866 (341) - ^

[toara's Oni]
00:03:937 (16,17,18,19) - ctrl+g? 音合わせです

00:04:651 (20,21,22) - change to kkd? ^

00:09:651 (41,42,43,44) - ctrl+g? ^

00:10:365 (45,46,47) - change to kkd? ^

01:21:080 (262,263,264,265) - ctrl+g? ^

01:21:794 (266,267,268) - change to kkd? ^

01:26:794 (288,289,290,291) - ctrl+g? ^

01:27:508 (292,293,294) - change to kkd? ^

good luck!

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

yuzu__rinrin 2017-04-07T11:18:04+00:00

Nekoharu wrote:
M4Mありがとうございました！
遅くなってすみません、譜面が良すぎて全て同じような提案です...

[Oni]

00:42:687 (3,4) - change to K K? ボーカル合わせです
drum取っていきたいです

00:43:401 (5) - change to d? ^　^

00:45:544 (3,4) - change to K K? ^　^

00:46:259 (5) - change to d? ^　^

00:46:616 (6) - change to k? ^　^

good luck!

thank you for modding~ :3

Aisha

837 posts

Joined December 2012

Aisha 2017-04-08T02:11:15+00:00

IRC Mod (posting even i didn't want to do it ><)

shitty mod

22:31 xfraczynho: i think this part
22:31 xfraczynho: 00:02:330 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,1) -
22:31 xfraczynho: compared to toara's Oni
22:32 xfraczynho: is so much easier
22:32 xfraczynho: you can make it a little more difficult (or tell toara to make it easier)
22:32 xfraczynho: since i think you're going to make Oni harder than toara's Oni
22:33 yuzu__rinrin: It is not Oni and Inner Oni so it will not change.
22:34 xfraczynho: ok
22:35 xfraczynho: kantan ->
22:35 xfraczynho: 00:43:044 (33) -
22:36 xfraczynho: this should be K because pitch change
22:37 yuzu__rinrin: 00:42:152 (32,33) - d--d 00:45:009 (34,35) - k--k. I think that it is easier for beginners to organize in a single color.
22:38 xfraczynho: yeah i know it's easier for begs
22:38 xfraczynho: but about pitch i was talking
22:39 xfraczynho: 00:50:902 (40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55) - i don't feel this part so consistent (kantan)
22:39 xfraczynho: damn is hard to find something wrong, it's kinda perfectly mapped
22:42 yuzu__rinrin: 00:50:902 (40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47) - 01:02:330 (56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63) -
22:43 yuzu__rinrin: 00:56:616 (48,49,50,51) - 00:59:473 (52,53,54,55) - Inverted color pattern
22:43 xfraczynho: then you should ctrl+g these 01:02:330 (56,57) -
22:44 xfraczynho: 00:50:902 (40) - or make this k
22:46 yuzu__rinrin: As k continues, it looks bad.
22:49 xfraczynho: k d maybe
22:49 xfraczynho: because pitch

really good map! good luck on ranking this ^^

yuzu__rinrin

943 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

yuzu__rinrin 2017-04-08T02:13:15+00:00

xfraczynho wrote:
IRC Mod (posting even i didn't want to do it ><)

shitty mod
22:31 xfraczynho: i think this part
22:31 xfraczynho: 00:02:330 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,1) -
22:31 xfraczynho: compared to toara's Oni
22:32 xfraczynho: is so much easier
22:32 xfraczynho: you can make it a little more difficult (or tell toara to make it easier)
22:32 xfraczynho: since i think you're going to make Oni harder than toara's Oni
22:33 yuzu__rinrin: It is not Oni and Inner Oni so it will not change.
22:34 xfraczynho: ok
22:35 xfraczynho: kantan ->
22:35 xfraczynho: 00:43:044 (33) -
22:36 xfraczynho: this should be K because pitch change
22:37 yuzu__rinrin: 00:42:152 (32,33) - d--d 00:45:009 (34,35) - k--k. I think that it is easier for beginners to organize in a single color.
22:38 xfraczynho: yeah i know it's easier for begs
22:38 xfraczynho: but about pitch i was talking
22:39 xfraczynho: 00:50:902 (40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55) - i don't feel this part so consistent (kantan)
22:39 xfraczynho: damn is hard to find something wrong, it's kinda perfectly mapped
22:42 yuzu__rinrin: 00:50:902 (40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47) - 01:02:330 (56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63) -
22:43 yuzu__rinrin: 00:56:616 (48,49,50,51) - 00:59:473 (52,53,54,55) - Inverted color pattern
22:43 xfraczynho: then you should ctrl+g these 01:02:330 (56,57) -
22:44 xfraczynho: 00:50:902 (40) - or make this k
22:46 yuzu__rinrin: As k continues, it looks bad.
22:49 xfraczynho: k d maybe
22:49 xfraczynho: because pitch

really good map! good luck on ranking this ^^

thank you for modding~ :3

Y O U T A

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Joined September 2014

Y O U T A 2017-04-10T06:54:13+00:00

Nekoharu wrote:
M4Mありがとうございました！
遅くなってすみません、譜面が良すぎて全て同じような提案です...

Mod
[YOUTA's Muzukashii]
00:05:009 (12) - change to k? Oniと合わせる為です

00:10:723 (35) - ^

01:22:151 (317) - ^

01:27:866 (341) - ^
all ok

good luck!

おせち○こ

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toara_fict

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toara_fict 2017-04-11T12:16:43+00:00

[quote="Nekoharu"]M4Mありがとうございました！
遅くなってすみません、譜面が良すぎて全て同じような提案です...

[toara's Oni]
00:03:937 (16,17,18,19) - ctrl+g? 音合わせです back sound ( 低音のドュンって音をkで拾ってるので　no change. )

00:04:651 (20,21,22) - change to kkd? ^ back sound ( 低音のドュンって音をkで拾ってるので　no change. 上と同じです。)

00:09:651 (41,42,43,44) - ctrl+g? ^　back sound ( 低音のドュンって音をkで拾ってるので　no change. )

00:10:365 (45,46,47) - change to kkd? ^ back sound ( 低音のドュンって音をkで拾ってるので　no change. 上と同じです。)

01:21:080 (262,263,264,265) - ctrl+g? ^　back sound ( 低音のドュンって音をkで拾ってるので　no change. )

01:21:794 (266,267,268) - change to kkd? ^　back sound ( 低音のドュンって音をkで拾ってるので　no change. )

01:26:794 (288,289,290,291) - ctrl+g? ^　back sound ( 低音のドュンって音をkで拾ってるので　no change. )

01:27:508 (292,293,294) - change to kkd? ^　back sound ( 低音のドュンって音をkで拾ってるので　no change. )

ありがとうございます

yuzu__rinrin

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yuzu__rinrin 2017-04-11T12:19:48+00:00

ドュン's Oni update~

thzz

579 posts

Joined May 2012

thzz 2017-04-27T15:04:32+00:00

M4M
遅くなりました ;_;

[General]

01:29:294 - この赤線を消してください。変拍子の曲ではないので4/4をキープ。曲の音が止まるのがちょうど01:33:758 - であることからも確認できるかと。
01:30:901 - ～ 01:33:758 - 全難易度spinner入れませんか？持続音で終わっているのでちょうどよいと思います

[Kantan]
全体的にもう少し簡単に、このBPMのKantanにしては少し難しい。

00:11:616 (15) - これをremoveしたい、00:13:759 (1,2,3) - を含めるとパターンが長く難しすぎるので。
その場合統一性のために00:05:902 (7) - を00:07:330 - に移動
00:12:330 (16,17) - 両方Kにしてみていいと思います。全体的な難易度を見ても支障ないかと。
00:23:401 (12) - remove、直後のDも含めて急に難しい配置になってしまってます。
00:35:901 (26,27) - remove. kkDは難しすぎるなぁ
00:50:187 (39) - remove.ぬるっとKiaiに入ってしまっているので、これで譜面全体のメリハリが増します。
01:19:116 (80) - remove. kkD回避。
01:19:473 - 以降はイントロでの変更と統一性を取ってください。

[chaica's Futsuu]

00:12:330 (25) - K. 00:11:616 (23,24,25) - の旋律より00:12:330 (25,26) - の強調のほうが大事です。難易度的にもセーフ。
00:46:437 (110,111) - 難しすぎるので、110をremoveか111をkに。
00:50:009 (119) - dにして1/2手前に？ 00:50:187 (120) - を目立たせるために前後に空白を作ってあげたい。

[YOUTA's Muzukashii]

01:01:437 (225) - K? 01:02:330 (229) - と差別化したい。
01:13:401 (280,281,282) - kkk. 01:13:759 (283,284,285,286,287,288) - を際立たせてあげましょう。

[toara's Oni]

00:36:438 (33) - remove. Aメロの難易度とBメロのクールダウン感を考えて少し忙しすぎるかと。
00:55:009 (115) - remove. バリエーションはあっていいのですが大局的な統一性（01:06:437 - ）は取っておきましょう。

[Oni]
toara'sと難易度にそこまで差が無いのでOD:5で。

00:03:759 - 01:20:901 (8) - 同じパートなので統一性を確保。removeの方向性が個人的にはいいかなと。
00:09:473 - 01:26:616 (8) - ^
00:18:044 - よりも00:18:401 - にアクセントがあるので、こういうリズムでどうでしょう。from 00:17:866 -
image
00:29:473 - / 00:29:830 - ^
00:41:794 (12,13) - Ctrl+G、スネアドラム意識で。ついでに00:44:652 (12,13) - ここともリンクできます。
00:42:687 (3) - K? ボーカルをちょい意識でちょっと色がついている方が好きです。D-KK-Dもアリ。
00:45:544 (3) - ^
Kiaiもう少し難しくしましょう、7↑連打が浮かないように。5連打を2,3箇所増やしてちょうどいいくらいです、この辺りにadd notesかな？
00:53:134 - 01:04:562 -
00:51:080 (4,5) - 直前の大音符から連続したこの1/4が少し忙しく感じます。特に01:02:330 - の周辺が顕著。このパターンでどうでしょう、from 00:50:901 -
image
00:53:223 (17,18,19) - dddやddkなど。00:53:312 - にアクセントが無く、dkdのパターンだと違和感が強いので何か他のに。
01:18:580 (15,16,17,18,19) - kdkkd？　01:18:580 - のボーカルと01:18:759 (17,18) - のドラムが拾えて完璧じゃね？って感じです。

以上！
in-gameで声かけてください～

yuzu__rinrin

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Topic Starter

yuzu__rinrin 2017-04-27T15:56:27+00:00

thzz wrote:
M4M
遅くなりました ;_; わいも2譜面目大遅刻したんやで...

[General]
01:29:294 - この赤線を消してください。変拍子の曲ではないので4/4をキープ。曲の音が止まるのがちょうど01:33:758 - であることからも確認できるかと。
消滅させました
01:30:901 - ～ 01:33:758 - 全難易度spinner入れませんか？持続音で終わっているのでちょうどよいと思います
話し合います
[Kantan]
全体的にもう少し簡単に、このBPMのKantanにしては少し難しい。
00:11:616 (15) - これをremoveしたい、00:13:759 (1,2,3) - を含めるとパターンが長く難しすぎるので。
その場合統一性のために00:05:902 (7) - を00:07:330 - に移動
ok~
00:12:330 (16,17) - 両方Kにしてみていいと思います。全体的な難易度を見ても支障ないかと。
noかなぁって思ったけどOniにfinish入ってるしいれちゃいます！
00:23:401 (12) - remove、直後のDも含めて急に難しい配置になってしまってます。
おｋｗ
00:35:901 (26,27) - remove. kkDは難しすぎるなぁ
おｋ、正直5連だけでも流れ変わりませんね
00:50:187 (39) - remove.ぬるっとKiaiに入ってしまっているので、これで譜面全体のメリハリが増します。
普段ならnoなんですけどその通りにしてみます
01:19:116 (80) - remove. kkD回避。
ok
01:19:473 - 以降はイントロでの変更と統一性を取ってください。
ok!デス
[Oni]
toara'sと難易度にそこまで差が無いのでOD:5で。
ノリで5.5行けるかなって思ったんですお兄さんゆるちて。。。（変えました）
00:03:759 - 01:20:901 (8) - 同じパートなので統一性を確保。removeの方向性が個人的にはいいかなと。
00:09:473 - 01:26:616 (8) - ^
ここですねー、modderの提案で最初と最後がまるっきり同じだとつまらないから少し密度上げよう！っていう感じなので本当に違和感あったら変えます。いまのところはkeepでおねがいします！(どうしても...っていうのならrecheckの時お願いシマス)
00:18:044 - よりも00:18:401 - にアクセントがあるので、こういうリズムでどうでしょう。from 00:17:866 -
image
00:29:473 - / 00:29:830 - ^
これはめっちゃいいと思う、changed
00:41:794 (12,13) - Ctrl+G、スネアドラム意識で。ついでに00:44:652 (12,13) - ここともリンクできます。
okです
00:42:687 (3) - K? ボーカルをちょい意識でちょっと色がついている方が好きです。D-KK-Dもアリ。
色付けます...................(他のmodderにも言われた気がする...)
00:45:544 (3) - ^
Kiaiもう少し難しくしましょう、7↑連打が浮かないように。5連打を2,3箇所増やしてちょうどいいくらいです、この辺りにadd notesかな？
00:53:134 - 01:04:562 -
tuketashimashita
00:51:080 (4,5) - 直前の大音符から連続したこの1/4が少し忙しく感じます。特に01:02:330 - の周辺が顕著。このパターンでどうでしょう、from 00:50:901 -
image
いい感じにイントロとかとあってていいかも。
00:53:223 (17,18,19) - dddやddkなど。00:53:312 - にアクセントが無く、dkdのパターンだと違和感が強いので何か他のに。
01:18:580 (15,16,17,18,19) - kdkkd？　01:18:580 - のボーカルと01:18:759 (17,18) - のドラムが拾えて完璧じゃね？って感じです。
どちらもokです！(ちょっと違うかもだけど)
以上！
in-gameで声かけてください～

thank you for modding ~ :3

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