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Doyak

osu! Alumni

Joined November 2012

Doyak 2016-11-10T10:21:26+00:00

[ Emillia ] wrote:
02:10:973 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - this is undoubtedly still 3/4 if you want to follow vocal, and its obvious on 100% and even more obvious on 25%

Well if you focus on certain ticks then some of them fit better on 3/4 ticks. But did you realize that there's no sound on the exact-white-ticks too? They don't sing it 100% accurate. Just focus on the speed of each vocal and they mostly sound equal to each other, which can only be 1/3s.

Frim4503

2,067 posts

Joined July 2013

Frim4503 2016-11-10T13:25:43+00:00

is the mp3 change ?

Natsu

8,074 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

Natsu 2016-11-10T13:26:27+00:00

Frim4503 wrote:
is the mp3 change ?

yes, delete and redownload

Mazziv

998 posts

Joined July 2013

Mazziv 2016-11-10T14:23:44+00:00

just a few things that i dont like bout the irre&euny collab

03:11:933 (1) - i played this diff already a few times but this slider always gets me to sliderbreak,idk its just maybe a bit to unexpected?
03:15:773 (1,2,3,4) - and 03:23:453 (1,2,3,4) - play waaaay better than those 10x used back and forth pattern afterwards,which feels IMHO super awkward to play at high bpm IMO

rest looks cool

Euny

2,274 posts

Joined January 2014

Euny 2016-11-10T16:16:23+00:00

Mazziv wrote:
just a few things that i dont like bout the irre&euny collab
03:15:773 (1,2,3,4) - and 03:23:453 (1,2,3,4) - play waaaay better than those 10x used back and forth pattern afterwards,which feels IMHO super awkward to play at high bpm IMO

rest looks cool

why not

fixed

osu file format v14

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Title:BOOMBAYAH
TitleUnicode:붐바야
Artist:BLACKPINK
ArtistUnicode:BLACKPINK
Creator:Natsu
Version:Natsu & Euny's Extra feat. Irreversible
Source:
Tags:k-pop kpop 블핑 블랙핑크 SQUARE ONE 지수 JISOO 제니 JENNIE 로제 ROSÉ 리사 LISA YG ENTERTAINMENT nekomata Irreversible Euny Collab
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Varqaaa

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Varqaaa 2016-11-10T18:21:20+00:00

SPOILER

Natsu wrote:
Varqaaa wrote:
text.
I think you don't understand what we was discussing,with all the respect, well i'll explain you because seems you don't have much experience in mapping /modding.

The map got DQ, because some wrong snapped objects, which I'm waiting for some mp3 modification, the map is a really simple map, you can paste it at any other bpm and there are not gimmicks without the ¨go¨ sliders, the point about the spacing from nozhomi was about making some jumps have the same spacing, which I don't agree, since no map do that.

So please don't confuse about the reasons about the DQ and others, specially if you have no experience with modding, mapping or playing. The playability of the map has already been prove, anyways this is the post you should put your attention in: p/5597351 .

Sorry if I was unclear, half of what I was saying in first post wasn't reason for DQ (just why I dislike map // you obviously have your own mapping philosophy though and see things differently) I was grumpy and shouldn't have probably said

Nozohmi's point's concerning snapping/spacing at 00:29:933 (1,2,3) or 01:39:773 (1,2,3,4) or 02:51:293 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) (this one maybe not as bad) or 03:42:653 (1,2,3,4) and 03:57:893 (4,1,2,3) are mostly what I was talking about, I was just being more general. Just because it is a simple map (or maybe because it is a simple map doesn't mean it can't have snapping/overspacing/overmapping issues. I appreciate the sentiment of wanting to keep the map interesting to play and adding variation, but you can't make things arbitrarily more difficult to keep the audience playing. I thought the slider shapes were a fine way of keeping it interesting because changing those doesn't actually make a pattern noticeably harder, just different.

While the 1/8 stream in chorus is qualifiable doesn't it feel out of place to you? I think Monstrata's idea of mixing 1/8 sliders and streams would be a lot more fitting with song intensity. If you're going to be anal about the music here and map the 1/8s as notes to a stream wouldn't it make sense to be consistently pedantic and take Emilia's suggestion about using 1/3 around 00:37:533 - 00:37:773 for precision?

You can't ignore someone's points because of rank/post. Sure, I can't FC this but it doesn't take a master filmmaker to see flaws in a movie. Inconsistent snapping/spacing/dubious handling of the 1/3 or 1/4 are obvious places for improvement but you won't take criticism and just say "but then it's boring and not my map lol you're bad"

edit: oops you actually did fix, I made post without refresh

lol @ implementing all the changes I suggested after saying I didn't know what I was talking about though

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Natsu

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Natsu 2016-11-10T18:25:09+00:00

the problem man is you don't read the thread:

1. I already changed the spacing at the Jumps
2.after several testplays from top players i give up my full stream and I mixed it with sliders
3. the mp3 got edited and the 1/6 parts are snapped to 1/4

you don't read the thread, I already fixed almost all what people pointed

Ashton

Ashton 2016-11-10T22:57:34+00:00

shouldn't there be a diff between the two hardest diffs? Yes, onyly a 1.4* gap but the fact you drop form a diff that the average 60k can passm to a diff that can barely be passed by top rank players is a good idea?

Ashton

Ashton 2016-11-11T00:32:32+00:00

one day I wanna take an ordinary song, like maybe k-pop

and space all the 1/4 to make 7*!

no seriously, I can take any map, and space all the 1/4 just to make a high level difficulty, now cant I?

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-11-11T01:10:31+00:00

CanadianBaka wrote:
shouldn't there be a diff between the two hardest diffs? Yes, onyly a 1.4* gap but the fact you drop form a diff that the average 60k can passm to a diff that can barely be passed by top rank players is a good idea?

they have the same rhythm is just the spacing that make it look huge, check it careful, tbh even the insane have similar lol. Even both diff spikes are basically similar, you can't add other diff without making it the same as those 3.

If that make sense and u have the mapping skills sure u can

! do it, oh btw this being an ordinary song is your opinion, I think is a really unique song lol

Ashton

Ashton 2016-11-11T01:31:08+00:00

seeing your BN

might as well not continue this argument, as it will end up in silences.

El burro sabe mas que tu!

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Ohrami

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Ohrami 2016-11-11T04:04:25+00:00

of course he will space the 1/4 like that because it's only 125 bpm

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2016-11-11T17:02:34+00:00

I don't get what's the fuzz about.

I do agree that the first two patterns are 3/8, hence why I mapped them like this. The third one is completely different from my point of view. It plays best like this, it follows the song and no one would have even figured it if you play it - because he was able to get through this part without any complication.

Natsu, since you didn't update my parts, can you please put 5% on 02:07:313 - the green lines in this part. 02:09:053 (1) - Here too.

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-11-11T23:48:12+00:00

done

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2016-11-12T00:50:19+00:00

fixed the 1/3 nevertheless

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2016-11-12T01:03:03+00:00

Since the issues brought forth by the dq have been addressed and fixed, here's your rebubble!

Enon

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Enon 2016-11-12T03:43:12+00:00

I don't know if it's matter or not. but, doesn't it matter bubbling even if its still in WIP section? because WIP mean its not ready to go.

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-11-12T03:46:14+00:00

Enon wrote:
I don't know if it's matter or not. but, doesn't it matter bubbling even if its still in WIP section? because WIP mean its not ready to go.

it really doesn't matter that much, since usually marathon maps are also bubbled in wip, anyways isn't a big problem.

Ashton

Ashton 2016-11-12T04:03:58+00:00

@irre ok

Enon

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Enon 2016-11-12T05:46:49+00:00

thank you for noticing me that

Ayako

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Ayako 2016-11-12T09:53:36+00:00

[ Emillia ] wrote:
im sry for your loss

hearing loss, that is

00:37:533 - 00:37:773 - hearing on 100% is obvious, hearing on 25% is even more obvious

dont find some stupid reason to hide your overmapping just because its quali'd

wows

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2016-11-12T16:09:08+00:00

02:53:093 (6) - wrong clap in our collab fix it pls before it gets ranked
03:22:013 (1) - should get silenced (is it really so difficult to go over the whole map and silence stuff properly XD, maybe there is more pls recheck)

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-11-12T16:54:03+00:00

Is not difficulty, the problem is that I'm not silencing tails at chorus , but as your request and you request one by one on different days, anyways gonna add it after sleep a bit.

erlinadewi-

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erlinadewi- 2016-11-12T16:59:41+00:00

where's my oppa?

Gero

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Gero 2016-11-13T05:39:52+00:00

~ Qualified ~

Underforest

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Underforest 2016-11-13T06:08:09+00:00

re-gratz

buny

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buny 2016-11-13T12:37:07+00:00

Natsu wrote:
I was watching your replay and I notice some, do you mind linking them?

sry for late reply, afterwards i assume it's not a problem with map and just my reading skill since you had heaps of test plays already.

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-11-13T13:01:02+00:00

buny wrote:
Natsu wrote:
I was watching your replay and I notice some, do you mind linking them?
sry for late reply, afterwards i assume it's not a problem with map and just my reading skill since you had heaps of test plays already.

Yeah, I also reworked them a bit and seems you played the new ones better~

Shmiklak

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Shmiklak 2016-11-13T14:25:44+00:00

ya, ya-ya, ya-ya-ya OPPAH

Mazziv

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Mazziv 2016-11-13T21:46:26+00:00

idk why but even doe euny ''agreed'' with me on my suggestion with the back forth jumps,i dont see a change at all,either im dumb or she didnt save idk
and also no response to my slider thingy

blooming tea

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blooming tea 2016-11-13T22:23:41+00:00

Hype!

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-11-13T22:49:30+00:00

Mazziv wrote:
idk why but even doe euny ''agreed'' with me on my suggestion with the back forth jumps,i dont see a change at all,either im dumb or she didnt save idk
and also no response to my slider thingy

oh she changed one, but wanted to keep the second one, btw the slider is just a design thing it already have two warnings the red combo color and the NC

dentek wrote:
Hype!

!!

emilia

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emilia 2016-11-14T02:31:43+00:00

can i ask what of the mp3 did you change

i hear no difference and i spot the exact same errors at where you completely disregarded 1/3 rhythms for "momentum/flow/easier reading"

its still a rhythm game, no matter how "fun" players think it is the notes are still inaccurately mapped, there is literally nothing on the hitcircles

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-11-14T02:44:02+00:00

[ Emillia ] wrote:
can i ask what of the mp3 did you change

i hear no difference and i spot the exact same errors at where you completely disregarded 1/3 rhythms for "momentum/flow/easier reading"

its still a rhythm game, no matter how "fun" players think it is the notes are still inaccurately mapped, there is literally nothing on the hitcircles

Pishifat edited the 1/6 parts so they are snapped to 1/4 now

Enon

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Enon 2016-11-14T14:33:16+00:00

it's not good acting to obstruct being ranked of the map you hate.

anyway good luck bro

emilia

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emilia 2016-11-14T15:19:09+00:00

Enon wrote:
it's not good acting to obstruct being ranked of the map you hate.

anyway good luck bro

so theres something wrong with community input now haha ok

@Natsu: what about here: 01:39:773 (1,2,3,4) - i still dont think this should be allowed

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-11-14T15:35:51+00:00

[ Emillia ] wrote:
Enon wrote:
it's not good acting to obstruct being ranked of the map you hate.

anyway good luck bro
so theres something wrong with community input now haha ok

@Natsu: what about here: 01:39:773 (1,2,3,4) - i still dont think this should be allowed

Instruments are going in 1/4, yes the vocal is off and you can argue is 1/6, but there is a sound lading at 1/4 01:39:893 (2) - 01:39:773 (1,3) - are clearly 1/2 and 01:40:133 (4) - isn't a clear beat, but being the other 3 beats snapped at 1/4 then we should suppose the 4 one is also 1/4, since the music regulary do a 5 note streams. Even tho if you ask most of people they will tell you the music is 1/4 and the vocals are a bit off.

Akhyar123

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Akhyar123 2016-11-14T16:56:34+00:00

Oppa <3

Euny

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Euny 2016-11-20T06:22:55+00:00