BLACKPINK - BOOMBAYAH · forum

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Title:BOOMBAYAH
TitleUnicode:붐바야
Artist:BLACKPINK
ArtistUnicode:BLACKPINK
Creator:Natsu
Version:OPPA
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Tags:k-pop kpop 블핑 블랙핑크 SQUARE ONE 지수 JISOO 제니 JENNIE 로제 ROSÉ 리사 LISA YG ENTERTAINMENT
BeatmapID:1065884
BeatmapSetID:500858

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gonna make diffi cool tea for this set. oh i dont need your permission.

Kalibe

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Kalibe 2016-09-01T14:26:24+00:00

OPPAi

Syph

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Syph 2016-09-02T20:54:00+00:00

Kalibe wrote:
OPPAi

Tari

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Tari 2016-09-03T04:56:32+00:00

We added some spice to sliders!

21:17 Tari: 01:25:487 (1,2) - can u rotate these sliders
21:17 Tari: i don't understand y ur slider need to be perfectly straight
21:18 Tari: 01:35:567 (5) - why can't u make ur sliders more like these
21:18 Tari: :X
21:19 Natsu: i can rotate them a bit, yeah why not :p
21:19 Tari: 01:36:527 (1) - also can u copy and paste from 01:35:567 (5) - ?
21:21 Tari: 02:09:407 (3,4) - really love stuff like these
21:21 Tari: why don't u make slider blankets like those more
21:21 Tari: :X
21:21 Natsu: fixed that slider thing
21:22 Natsu: and idk i just mapped it like more symmetry focus tbh
21:22 Tari: 02:09:407 (3,4) - Same these sliders are beautiful
21:22 Tari: oops
21:22 Tari: I mean 02:12:047 (1) - 
21:22 Natsu: yeah
21:23 Tari: it's better than do this
21:23 Tari: http://puu.sh/qY8Bz.jpg
21:23 Tari: .........
21:24 Tari: i have no problem with you putting vertical/horizontal slider like those
21:24 Tari: but pls they are boring to look at it after a while
21:25 Natsu: oh u mean because they looks perfect in vertigal and horizontal way?
21:26 Tari: yes
21:26 Natsu: vertical*
21:26 Tari: don't u agree?
21:28 Natsu: depend, because i also think consistency is a good thing, but gonna take that in consideration for next diff/map
21:28 Tari: thx
21:28 Tari: love it when u make your slider curve a bit
21:28 Tari: straight vertical/horizontal are boring to look at it in editor
21:30 Natsu: bte if u want u can post both suggestions, since i changed them
21:30 Tari: 03:30:287 (4) - also can u move slider end down a bit?
21:30 Tari: 03:29:807 (1) - u rotated this slider a bit
21:30 Tari: it's not perfect horizontal so 4 can be rotated a bit
21:31 Natsu: sure
21:32 Tari: 03:51:887 (3) - also this slider
21:32 Tari: 03:53:807 (3) - why don't make similar to this?
21:32 Tari: I prefer u do unique slider shape for that
21:32 Tari: but seems u prefer to keep your boring slider shape
21:33 Tari: so i won't make u fix it
21:33 Natsu: sure done
21:35 Tari: 02:00:527 (1,2,3,4) - also u broke consistency here
21:35 Tari: 01:58:607 (1,2,3,4,5) - isn't suppose to match this rhyth,?
21:35 Tari: rhythm*
21:37 Natsu: there is no vocal at 02:00:647  -
21:38 Natsu: that's why I leave that as slider tail
21:39 Tari: 02:20:927 (2) - can u make the slider end stack?
21:39 Tari: with 02:20:207 (3) - 
21:40 Tari: 02:20:687 (1,2,3,4) - also this pattern isn't symmetrical
21:40 Tari: it's intentional?
21:41 Natsu: fixed
21:41 Tari: 03:01:007 (3) - also it would of been better if "YAAAAH" sound in BOOMBAYAH had same slider shapes
21:41 Tari: 02:57:167 (3) - 
21:43 Natsu: isn't better to keep variaton on them for more fun?
21:43 Tari: ur choice
21:43 Tari: I just want u to have slider variety
21:44 Tari: 03:37:007 (1,2) - stuff like this is so nice
21:44 Tari: gj!
21:44 Tari: way to emphasize "Go" so well
21:44 Natsu: yeah :D

headphonewearer

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headphonewearer 2016-09-05T14:50:59+00:00

sorry i donmt like chinese musi c

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-09-05T14:51:48+00:00

havkz wrote:
sorry i donmt like chinese musi c

who cares LOL

-Visceral-

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-Visceral- 2016-09-07T03:57:27+00:00

02:24:287 (1,2,3,4,5) - these hats are nowhere near intense enough to warrant a 250 bpm stream of that spacing

02:47:567 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - instead of having whatever this is, how about you utilize your mapping knowledge and actually raise intensity with the song instead of just having a giant melting pot of circles that have no reason for being where they are

... 01:11:567 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - like come on what is your justification for playing these notes so spastic

03:27:407 (1,2,3,4) - why does this sound late

03:54:287 (1,2,3,4,5) - wtf is this mapped to

also the mp3 quality is too high

modding this briefly because im assuming youll go for rank since thats what you do on maps like this. ill mod the full set when its done.

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-09-07T04:11:47+00:00

Smoothie World wrote:
02:24:287 (1,2,3,4,5) - these hats are nowhere near intense enough to warrant a 250 bpm stream of that spacing yes in your opinion this shouldn't be mapped as circles, but in my opinion the sounds justify a stream, don't take the bpm in to account as it doesn't matter, there are sounds in the music and i think representing them as circles is the best way

02:47:567 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - instead of having whatever this is, how about you utilize your mapping knowledge and actually raise intensity with the song instead of just having a giant melting pot of circles that have no reason for being where they are I think they fit the song really nice, I already asked to alot of top players and most of them liked them, well I guess is about opinions again and if you don't bring me a better option then I will go with my way

... 01:11:567 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - like come on what is your justification for playing these notes so spastic same as above if you don't come with better suggestions then my way will be always better, even tho the last part of this pattern got changed already (not updated yet)

03:27:407 (1,2,3,4) - why does this sound late I guess u talking about the vocals, if so they are sometimes off, but hitsounds fix them a bit tho, anyways I'll see what i can do when the set is done

03:54:287 (1,2,3,4,5) - wtf is this mapped to there are sounds at every beat, i exaggerate the spacing a bit tho, gonna nerf it later

also the mp3 quality is too high

modding this briefly because im assuming youll go for rank since thats what you do on maps like this. ill mod the full set when its done.

BTW, about the patterns is hard to me to change something if you don't offer me something better or you don't explain me why it play better, I guess posting the issue + fix will improve your modding alot, anyways thanks and yes I'm going for ranking I think.

-Visceral-

644 posts

Joined August 2012

-Visceral- 2016-09-07T04:24:38+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Smoothie World wrote:
02:24:287 (1,2,3,4,5) - these hats are nowhere near intense enough to warrant a 250 bpm stream of that spacing yes in your opinion this shouldn't be mapped as circles, but in my opinion the sounds justify a stream, don't take the bpm in to account as it doesn't matter, there are sounds in the music and i think representing them as circles is the best way

02:47:567 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - instead of having whatever this is, how about you utilize your mapping knowledge and actually raise intensity with the song instead of just having a giant melting pot of circles that have no reason for being where they are I think they fit the song really nice, I already asked to alot of top players and most of them liked them, well I guess is about opinions again and if you don't bring me a better option then I will go with my way

... 01:11:567 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - like come on what is your justification for playing these notes so spastic same as above if you don't come with better suggestions then my way will be always better, even tho the last part of this pattern got changed already (not updated yet)

03:27:407 (1,2,3,4) - why does this sound late I guess u talking about the vocals, if so they are sometimes off, but hitsounds fix them a bit tho, anyways I'll see what i can do when the set is done

03:54:287 (1,2,3,4,5) - wtf is this mapped to there are sounds at every beat, i exaggerate the spacing a bit tho, gonna nerf it later

also the mp3 quality is too high

modding this briefly because im assuming youll go for rank since thats what you do on maps like this. ill mod the full set when its done.
BTW, about the patterns is hard to me to change something if you don't offer me something better or you don't explain me why it play better, I guess posting the issue + fix will improve your modding alot, anyways thanks and yes I'm going for ranking I think.

for the first one i meant the spacing is a little high. i support you mapping a stream to it but i feel like its spaced too high

the last 5 notes of the song, i know 1000% at least the last circle falls on a tick with no sound. slow it down and listen.

Natsu

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Topic Starter

Natsu 2016-09-07T04:45:05+00:00

oh I can reduce the spacing at the stream, and yea I guess the last circle is really questionable, gonna make it a slider end

didn't updated yet, I made much changes

Luel Roseline

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Luel Roseline 2016-09-09T11:50:26+00:00

02:09:167 - Heard 1/3. probably...

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-09-09T16:01:15+00:00

S A V E R Y wrote:
02:09:167 - Heard 1/3. probably...

it sounds like 1/4 to me, but I'll ask to others

Euny

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Euny 2016-09-10T08:43:28+00:00

MMM.. too easy for me with half time ^.~

dont forget video offset >> -730

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-09-10T08:45:01+00:00

I didn't apply all the changes now, just nerfed both stream parts to be more comfortable when playing

Enon

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Enon 2016-09-10T15:29:01+00:00

I think the volume of the music is quite low

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-09-10T15:47:50+00:00

Enon wrote:
I think the volume of the music is quite low

u mean the song volume?

Enon

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Enon 2016-09-10T20:22:09+00:00

Yes It making me really sleepy

Nekomata

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Nekomata 2016-09-11T01:21:43+00:00

low mp3 quality. sounds like 128 kbps

here's new one :3

simple

http://puu.sh/r6ZsX.mp3

bpm 125
offset 413

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-09-18T04:32:48+00:00

New mp3! REDOWNLOAD

BounceBabe

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BounceBabe 2016-09-19T19:55:33+00:00

PM Request ~

Video is too distractive o3o the outfits and seductive dances omg

Don't click

Icon Legend
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Suggestion:
I recommend that you fix this:
Unrankable, so you have to fix this:
Not unrankable but I strongly disagree with this:
I'm not sure why you used this. Explain it to me please:

General
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"687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f7841444656656b2e6a7067.jpg" xD
Combo colours are kinda bland for such a long song. Band is called Black Pink so maybe add grey as black is unrankable. Only 4 combo colour and they are quite similar, for 4 minutes gets a bit boring. Add a couple more pink colours or in general a variation of colours to emphasise the girl band's name :3 Also, there are two additional combo colours in Insane and Extra. They should be consistent throughout the set, even if they are only SV indicator, they should be included and used in the other difficulties as well. Red is fast and white is slow aye? Btw, isn't white unrankable / not recommendable since it's really strong on the eyes during KIAI?
Aren't so many KIAI fountains in a row unrankable due to fps drops and lag that may occur on older PCs? You might want to reduce them.
Might just be me but the video seems a tiny bit off. Maybe look into that.

Normal
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Went through it twice. Nothing that is worth mentioning.

Advanced
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Ohter issues:

00:56:813 (2,3) - 00:59:693 (3,1) - 01:04:493 (2,3) - 01:10:733 (2,3) - 02:32:813 (2,3) - 02:35:693 (3,1) - 02:40:493 (2,3) - 02:46:733 (2,3) - They are not stacked or manually unstacked. There a reason for that? What difference does it make to actual stacking? It looks weird. You also have SL on lowest which is 2. Would be better if you use 4 and stack them properly. Same thing.

Hard
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No hitsounds yet.
Would recommend using the same combo pattern for each section like on the other difficulties.

Combo:
00:20:933 (4) - 03:27:293 (7) - NC for SV change.

Spacing:
01:23:933 (4,5) - Noticeable spacing inconsistency.
01:20:573 (3) - 02:56:573 (3) - 03:00:893 (1) - 03:04:253 (7) - 03:27:293 (7) - They should have the same spacing for the jumps as they are positioned the same and also play the same. Small inconsistencies.

Appearance, Flow & Transition:
00:36:893 (1,2,3,4,5) - Looks a bit clustered atm. Would be better if it had better arrangement of the circles.
03:15:053 (4) - Circle at the bottom breaks the flow a bit here due to the previous pattern arrangement directing to the top right. This would be better. http://puu.sh/rgLZj/592ac19ec1.jpg Same here 03:21:533 (6,1) - 03:30:173 (2,3) - 00:33:533 (3,4) - 01:10:973 (3,1) - 02:02:693 (6,7) -
Would make a better transition if you add a circle here 02:08:813 - due to the vocals being from 02:08:573 (7) - to 02:08:813 - Same here 02:10:733 -
02:27:293 (3,4,1) - 02:50:333 (5,6,7) - 03:10:013 (5,6,1) - 01:14:333 (3,4,5) - 01:34:013 (5,6,1) - Transition and gameplay would be better if they were unstacked. http://puu.sh/rgMrZ/bbadc59660.jpg < example for 02:27:293 (3,4,1) -
00:46:493 (1,2) - Aesthetics aren't so pretty here due to the sliders almost touching.

Rhythm & Pattern:
00:30:173 (7) - You follow the rap vocal here, means the slider should be a 1/2 reversed slider and not 3/4 reversed slider. http://puu.sh/rgNfU/3e8ef07248.jpg
02:06:173 (5) - Rhythmically there should be 2 1/2 sliders instead of the 3/4 reverse slider that you currently have. http://puu.sh/rgN03/b600790364.jpg
00:50:333 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Really like that pattern

Insane
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On this difficulty are so many slight spacing inconsistencies yet you want to achieve the same jumps and spacing. The inconsistencies vary a lot sometimes. Try to improve that.

Appearance, Flow & Transition:

00:38:333 (1) - Not quite symmetrical.
02:13:853 (1) - Not sure if they are rankable now. They used to be unrankable due to them faking the slider length. Even more here because it's actually a slider SV increase not decrease.
03:38:813 (1) - Nice idea but you could polish that G up a bit more.

Other Issues:
01:35:693 (1) - The red sliders start is not readable enough due to the white one covering it completely. You should rearrange this a bit so it is more readable. The red sliders start could be at the end OR the beginning of the slider 01:35:693 (1) - , really confusing. Much better here 01:43:373 (1,1) -

Spacing:
00:17:693 (1) - 1,3 00:19:613 (1) - 1,33 00:20:093 (5,6) - 1,4 00:29:213 (1) - 1,38 00:31:133 (1) - 1,24 spacing but same jumps. I'd say you use 1,3 for downbeat jumps. Not gonna mention any more of these. Just try to fix them up through the difficulty.
00:56:093 (1,2) - I don't quite understand this spacing change. It looks really off compared to the other spacing that you used.
00:32:813 (1,2,3) - 00:36:893 (1) - 00:38:813 (1) - Inconsistent spacing. This for example 00:17:693 (1,2,3) - 00:28:013 (4,7) - is consistent. Etc Etc
00:40:133 (5,6) - 00:39:173 (2,3) - Same pattern, inconsistent spacing.
00:58:493 (2) - Keep the spacing consistent here between 00:58:013 (1,3) - it's 0,15 different.
01:00:413 (2,3) - 01:09:533 (1,2,3) - 01:10:493 (3,4,5,6) - Spacing inconsistency (01:01:853 (1,2,3) - Better here) There are many more like this. I'd say you go through the map and fix those. Looks messy.
01:03:293 (5,1) - 01:09:533 (1,2) - These kinda jumps should have the same spacing as they play the same and technically are placed the same too
00:41:693 (5,1,1) - At these kind of downbeats after SV you should add a proper jump 00:42:653 (1) - unless you want to use normal spacing now instead of downbeat jumps.
00:48:413 (1,2,3,4) - Try to make these kind of patterns have gradually increasing spacing. It's kinda random right now but I think that was your intention here.
00:50:813 (5,1) - 00:51:773 (5,1) - Inconsistent spacing again but same pattern build. 0,08 variation
01:03:773 (1,2,3) - 01:21:053 (1,2,3) - 01:22:013 (4,5,6) - 01:23:933 (4,5,1) - ,... ^
00:53:213 (5,6) - 00:52:253 (1,2) - 01:24:893 (3,1,2) - Inconsistent spacing. Especially noticeable here

Could go on and on about these but you get the idea by now i hope. Hope you can fix them up.

Extra
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Jesus christ 7,2 SR 10 AR 9,5 OD /)OoO(\ It's ULTRA

Spacing consistency again same on difficulty like the Insane. 00:17:693 (1,2,3) - 00:17:933 (3,4,1) - etc.
Aesthetics 00:38:333 (1) - could make it a bit rouder.

Lol, I can't even mod this. It's too fast.

Overall
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Modding Time: About 2 hours
Sorry, I can't mod the Extra. Way above what I could play too. It's like the big black thingy song map. Simply PP map there. Other than that I really enjoyed the map overall. Needs more polishing in regards to consistency. Everything else is really fluent.

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-09-20T07:03:16+00:00

BounceBabe wrote:
PM Request ~

Video is too distractive o3o the outfits and seductive dances omg lol

General
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"687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f7841444656656b2e6a7067.jpg" xD lmao
Combo colours are kinda bland for such a long song. Band is called Black Pink so maybe add grey as black is unrankable. Only 4 combo colour and they are quite similar, for 4 minutes gets a bit boring. Add a couple more pink colours or in general a variation of colours to emphasise the girl band's name :3 Also, there are two additional combo colours in Insane and Extra. They should be consistent throughout the set, even if they are only SV indicator, they should be included and used in the other difficulties as well. Red is fast and white is slow aye? Btw, isn't white unrankable / not recommendable since it's really strong on the eyes during KIAI? I'm using vivid pink and skyblue for fast parts and palid pink and skyblue for slowparts

red color is for fast sliders and white one for slow sliders, they don't need to be added at lower difficulties, since they don't have any use there, no SV changes, combo colors consistency can be broke if there are valid reasons, increasing the readability of SV changes is a valid reason to me

Yeah white is questionable during kiais, but I'm not using a white combo color during kiais, I'm using it only in slowdowns
Aren't so many KIAI fountains in a row unrankable due to fps drops and lag that may occur on older PCs? You might want to reduce them. but all them make sense with the music and they are not continue, there is a lot of time between each one
Might just be me but the video seems a tiny bit off. Maybe look into that. yeah I know, gonna fix it soon

Advanced
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Ohter issues:
00:56:813 (2,3) - 00:59:693 (3,1) - 01:04:493 (2,3) - 01:10:733 (2,3) - 02:32:813 (2,3) - 02:35:693 (3,1) - 02:40:493 (2,3) - 02:46:733 (2,3) - They are not stacked or manually unstacked. There a reason for that? What difference does it make to actual stacking? It looks weird. You also have SL on lowest which is 2. Would be better if you use 4 and stack them properly. Same thing

as you said its basically the same, but I like to make them manually, since I can make them aim in the direction of the next object.
Autostacking:

Manual stacks:

Insane
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On this difficulty are so many slight spacing inconsistencies yet you want to achieve the same jumps and spacing. The inconsistencies vary a lot sometimes. Try to improve that.

Appearance, Flow & Transition:
00:38:333 (1) - Not quite symmetrical. fixed i hope
02:13:853 (1) - Not sure if they are rankable now. They used to be unrankable due to them faking the slider length. Even more here because it's actually a slider SV increase not decrease. they never were unrankable iirc, the unrankable sliders are the ones that made the slider ball go crazy, my current one is easy to read, they are used in other maps too.
03:38:813 (1) - Nice idea but you could polish that G up a bit more. I really want to make it better, u saw the one at extra? was cool no? XD, but here i have the limit SV... idk maybe i'll just increase it later

Other Issues:
01:35:693 (1) - The red sliders start is not readable enough due to the white one covering it completely. You should rearrange this a bit so it is more readable. The red sliders start could be at the end OR the beginning of the slider 01:35:693 (1) - , really confusing. Much better here 01:43:373 (1,1) - no one have problems reading this so far at any of my maps, since people use the approach circles to know when to click, also sliders are lenient u don't have to click them in time to get 300 (yet)

Spacing:
00:17:693 (1) - 1,3 00:19:613 (1) - 1,33 00:20:093 (5,6) - 1,4 00:29:213 (1) - 1,38 00:31:133 (1) - 1,24 spacing but same jumps. I'd say you use 1,3 for downbeat jumps. Not gonna mention any more of these. Just try to fix them up through the difficulty. they are really small differences that don't affect the gameplay, also those jumps are from slider to circle, as you know the leniency from sliders make really easy to aim to the next objects
00:56:093 (1,2) - I don't quite understand this spacing change. It looks really off compared to the other spacing that you used. yeah sliders don't need to use the same spacing, they play really different form circles, you don't need to go until the end of the slider to get 300
00:32:813 (1,2,3) - 00:36:893 (1) - 00:38:813 (1) - Inconsistent spacing. This for example 00:17:693 (1,2,3) - 00:28:013 (4,7) - is consistent. Etc Etc
00:40:133 (5,6) - 00:39:173 (2,3) - Same pattern, inconsistent spacing.
00:58:493 (2) - Keep the spacing consistent here between 00:58:013 (1,3) - it's 0,15 different.
01:00:413 (2,3) - 01:09:533 (1,2,3) - 01:10:493 (3,4,5,6) - Spacing inconsistency (01:01:853 (1,2,3) - Better here) There are many more like this. I'd say you go through the map and fix those. Looks messy.
01:03:293 (5,1) - 01:09:533 (1,2) - These kinda jumps should have the same spacing as they play the same and technically are placed the same too fixed
00:41:693 (5,1,1) - At these kind of downbeats after SV you should add a proper jump 00:42:653 (1) - unless you want to use normal spacing now instead of downbeat jumps. the sound at 00:42:173 (1) - is stronger than the next one, hence the SV change and hitsounds
00:48:413 (1,2,3,4) - Try to make these kind of patterns have gradually increasing spacing. It's kinda random right now but I think that was your intention here. they are just following the pitch in the music
00:50:813 (5,1) - 00:51:773 (5,1) - Inconsistent spacing again but same pattern build. 0,08 variation this 00:52:253 (1) - is alot stronger sound than 00:51:293 (1) -
01:03:773 (1,2,3) - 01:21:053 (1,2,3) - 01:22:013 (4,5,6) - 01:23:933 (4,5,1) - ,... ^
00:53:213 (5,6) - 00:52:253 (1,2) - 01:24:893 (3,1,2) - Inconsistent spacing. Especially noticeable here

Could go on and on about these but you get the idea by now i hope. Hope you can fix them up.
About the spacing, some of them are really small that aren't noticeables during the gameplay, others are intended ones, following the different pitch of each object or the overall feeling in the song, vocals, special instruments etc, making all the jumps the same will make a really monotonous map.

Extra
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Jesus christ 7,2 SR 10 AR 9,5 OD /)OoO(\ It's ULTRA yeah this is not an extra diff, the extra diff is comming soon!, AR 10 is because after much test plays is what most of players suggest me to set, OD is high to avoid notelocking, also I always use high OD in my maps

Spacing consistency again same on difficulty like the Insane. 00:17:693 (1,2,3) - 00:17:933 (3,4,1) - etc.
Aesthetics 00:38:333 (1) - could make it a bit rouder.
Lol, I can't even mod this. It's too fast.

Overall
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Modding Time: About 2 hours
Sorry, I can't mod the Extra. Way above what I could play too. It's like the big black thingy song map. Simply PP map there. Other than that I really enjoyed the map overall. Needs more polishing in regards to consistency. Everything else is really fluent.
Don't call it pp map, the amount of pp you can get for playing this is the same as for some TV size jumpy map XD... also the big black isn't a pp map

thanks for mod !

Sister Jude

768 posts

Joined February 2012

Sister Jude 2016-09-20T15:57:25+00:00

blackpink in your oreo

Euny

2,274 posts

Joined January 2014

Euny 2016-09-20T16:10:56+00:00

blackpink in your

Adventure

421 posts

Joined February 2015

Adventure 2016-09-21T01:37:41+00:00

euny guest diff when?

Nyukai

2,431 posts

Joined July 2012

Nyukai 2016-09-21T09:24:04+00:00

Will you add another diff between I and Extra? Not sure if it is well balanced...

Natsu

8,076 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

Natsu 2016-09-21T09:40:44+00:00

Nyu-chan wrote:
Will you add another diff between I and Extra? Not sure if it is well balanced...

ofc xD

Nyukai

2,431 posts

Joined July 2012

Nyukai 2016-09-21T09:41:16+00:00

It's fine you scared me uwu

Luel Roseline

1,034 posts

Joined February 2014

Luel Roseline 2016-10-04T23:24:55+00:00

Recheck soon.
(Maybe)

Joe Castle

802 posts

Joined September 2014

Joe Castle 2016-10-11T22:43:52+00:00

arnoldusj wrote:
euny guest diff when?

Nekomata

807 posts

Joined December 2013

Nekomata 2016-10-12T06:33:30+00:00

BounceBabe wrote:
Hard
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No hitsounds yet. done
Would recommend using the same combo pattern for each section like on the other difficulties.

Combo:
00:20:933 (4) - 03:27:293 (7) - NC for SV change. oops!

Spacing:
01:23:933 (4,5) - Noticeable spacing inconsistency. adjusted
01:20:573 (3) - 02:56:573 (3) - 03:00:893 (1) - 03:04:253 (7) - 03:27:293 (7) - They should have the same spacing for the jumps as they are positioned the same and also play the same. Small inconsistencies. flow is my aim here, as long as there's a little jump it's good in my eyes

Appearance, Flow & Transition:
00:36:893 (1,2,3,4,5) - Looks a bit clustered atm. Would be better if it had better arrangement of the circles. that style is on purpose, and is consistently used throughout the map. shouldn't be much of a problem with that circle under the slider, but may take another look if this is brought up again
03:15:053 (4) - Circle at the bottom breaks the flow a bit here due to the previous pattern arrangement directing to the top right. This would be better. http://puu.sh/rgLZj/592ac19ec1.jpg Same here 03:21:533 (6,1) - 03:30:173 (2,3) - 00:33:533 (3,4) - 01:10:973 (3,1) - 02:02:693 (6,7) - i changed one of them since its position didn't look too good, but "breaking the flow" and reestablishing it is actually a huge part of my mapping style
Would make a better transition if you add a circle here 02:08:813 - due to the vocals being from 02:08:573 (7) - to 02:08:813 - Same here 02:10:733 - i purposefully disregarded the vocal there in order to accentuate the instrumental stopping and starting
02:27:293 (3,4,1) - 02:50:333 (5,6,7) - 03:10:013 (5,6,1) - 01:14:333 (3,4,5) - 01:34:013 (5,6,1) - Transition and gameplay would be better if they were unstacked. http://puu.sh/rgMrZ/bbadc59660.jpg < example for 02:27:293 (3,4,1) -
i use unstacked alterating circles if the instrumentals are "flowing", and stack them if it feels like it's on a stop-go vibe (considering both vocal and instrumental)
00:46:493 (1,2) - Aesthetics aren't so pretty here due to the sliders almost touching. adjusted for spacing, created a little jump

Rhythm & Pattern:
00:30:173 (7) - You follow the rap vocal here, means the slider should be a 1/2 reversed slider and not 3/4 reversed slider. http://puu.sh/rgNfU/3e8ef07248.jpg the vocal hits 1/8 ticks, not 1/2. i also want to keep the rhythm relatively simple so this slider is matching the instrumental even though it may seem like it follows vocals at first. the repeat quickly changes that realization for the player.
02:06:173 (5) - Rhythmically there should be 2 1/2 sliders instead of the 3/4 reverse slider that you currently have. http://puu.sh/rgN03/b600790364.jpg similar to above, instrumentals are about the same at both points.
00:50:333 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Really like that pattern

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Nyukai

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Nyukai 2016-10-12T07:18:56+00:00

Joe Castle wrote:
arnoldusj wrote:
euny guest diff when?

Natsu

8,076 posts

Joined September 2012

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Natsu 2016-10-12T11:33:49+00:00

Joe Castle wrote:
arnoldusj wrote:
euny guest diff when?

Calm down, she is part of the ¨Ex¨ diff, it is a 3 mapper collab ;o!

Euny

2,274 posts

Joined January 2014

Euny 2016-10-12T15:48:56+00:00

sowwwwwwwwwwwwy really busy this days..!

Enon

Beatmap Nominator

2,698 posts

Joined November 2012

Enon 2016-10-12T16:15:48+00:00

오빠~

Euny

2,274 posts

Joined January 2014

Euny 2016-10-12T16:33:19+00:00

video offset -1603 with irre's video.

Natsu

8,076 posts

Joined September 2012

Topic Starter

Natsu 2016-10-13T09:15:04+00:00

yup

Euny

2,274 posts

Joined January 2014

Euny 2016-10-17T18:22:13+00:00

http://puu.sh/rMg3l/26a5ed161e.osz

http://puu.sh/rMgEG/1cd9dff822.zip

Zectro

371 posts

Joined April 2013

Zectro 2016-10-17T21:44:17+00:00

heyo m4m from queueu

[OPPA]

AR 9.6-9.8 would be better I think.
Right from the start it's really fast. I'd expect some kind of buildup, but you're thrown right into the action. In this case it's a bit too fast for the first 3 seconds of the map. I'd make it a bit easier, up until like 00:19:613 - . But ofcourse that's only subjective.
00:29:933 (1,2,3) - I don't understand why the spacing's so huge here, I get that it enters the next 'part' of the song there but it seems too much.
00:50:333 (1,2,3,4) - & 00:51:293 (1,2,3,4) - seem quite overmapped to me
01:17:213 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Yeah, this is a 7* map but this is REALLY hard to hit; I'd nerf it.
01:20:093 (1,2) - These are very slow sv while following the same vocals as 01:24:413 (1,2) - . I'm not saying it's wrong, but it seems kinda weird, and I think consistency would be better here.
01:31:133 (1) - This should be 2 notes I think, because of consistency with 01:27:293 (3,4) - etc.
01:39:773 (1,2,3,4) - This is all the more reason to change the spacing at 00:50:333 (1,2,3,4) - & 00:51:293 (1,2,3,4) - , 01:39:773 (1,2,3,4) - is way more intense but has way lower spacing.
02:53:213 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This DOES feel okay. I don't know if it's because of the position in the playfield, or the jumps before it, but it feels good, unlike 01:17:213 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
03:00:413 (1,2) - Same as earlier, need consistency with 02:56:093 (1,2) - imo (or other way around).
Rest seems great

[Natsu & Euny's Extra feat. Irreversible]

After playing it I noticed that there's a huge difficulty difference between this diff and OPPA. Consider mapping an extreme, or another extra, whatever you would like to call it.
00:20:453 (1) - Doesn't properly follow the vocals as far as I can hear
00:26:573 (1) - A bit too confusing because of 00:26:093 (2) -
01:29:213 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I get the idea behind this but it feels very anticlimactic in this part of the song
01:43:613 (1,1) - Imperfect blanket
02:13:853 (3) - You can probably make this follow the vocals better
02:57:053 - This 2nd 'drop' is so different than the first one(I know it's a collab), and I don't know if that's okay because different sounds are being followed and emphasized, which can cause confusion
03:42:653 (1,2,3,4) - I'd change the pattern of these as there are no vocals to follow here.

I'm not really good at modding lower diffs anyways, so I hope this is enough.

p/5549474
My map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/485223

Kalibe

2,060 posts

Joined October 2013

Kalibe 2016-10-18T13:02:43+00:00

OPPA

General*

- Uncheck Widescreen on diffs where it is enabled.
- I guess.. you forgot to add Euny and Irreversible?? to tags idk

[Normal]

- Well this is the easiest diff in set, so decreasing ar will be nice idea, especially for newbies. Try maybe AR 4,5 or maybe 4 ?
- Stack leniency 0.2 in Normal and Easy are pretty much weird to me. Why wouldn't you just change it to 4 for example, it gives much better reading in stacking imo.
- 02:13:853 (5) - How about adding here NC? There's diffirent sound that only one time occurs in song.
- 02:19:133 (2,1) - Why not just stacking it them?
- 02:23:213 (2,3) - Stack is off.

[Advanced]

- 01:15:773 (2) - Forgot to add a Whistle on head?
- 02:29:213 (3) - You skipping a nice sound on red tick : o // Try maybe to change 02:29:213 (3) - into 1/2 + circle?
- 02:33:533 (4) - Check spacing, kinda off on previous and next object http://puu.sh/rN3Ve/77b99a2992.jpg
- nice diff :3

[Nekomata]

- 00:18:653 (3) - I would curve this slider to fit with previous curved slider 00:17:693 (1) - looks neater imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6351584
- 00:50:813 (5,6) - 00:51:773 (5,6) - This is pretty confusing for Hard diff thou, spacing it will be much better D:
- 01:10:493 (2,1) - Not really a fan of this overlap tbh. Try maybe to avoid it?
- 01:35:933 (1) - 01:43:613 (7) - Well, two times same sound, but diffirent SV, is it specially?
*Also i have no idea why you decided to map 01:39:773 (7) - as a 1/8 when actually there are 1/4 beats lol.

[Insane]

- 01:12:893 (5,1,2) - Don't you think those jumps are kinda sudden? From 01:12:653 (4,5) - which is spaced normally 1.6 ds you used in next 01:12:893 (5,1) - two times bigger ds.
- 01:31:133 (3,5) - Stack is off a bit.
* Considering spacing 01:13:373 (1,2) - and 02:49:373 (1,2) - second one is less spaced and more intuitive imo.
- 03:26:213 - You don't wanna to map this beat? ;w;

[Natsu & Euny's Extra feat. Irreversible]

- 01:23:573 (4) - If my ears aren't bad, here it's 1/6 on 01:23:533 - and 01:23:613 - so there's nothing on 1/4 tho.
- 01:27:293 (3,4) - ^ same thing
- 02:02:333 (1,2) - Editor is bad, please fix that stack.
- 03:04:253 (1,1) - Are these NC really nessesary? At least you could delete that one 03:04:493 (1) -
- 03:09:293 (1,1) - Same for this, i don't see any problem with reading here, so also maybe remove ncs?

I'm really bad at modding 7 stars diff, so yea that's all from me. OPPA!

my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/515921 :>

Nekomata

807 posts

Joined December 2013

Nekomata 2016-10-18T15:03:30+00:00

Kalibe wrote:
[Nekomata]

- 00:18:653 (3) - I would curve this slider to fit with previous curved slider 00:17:693 (1) - looks neater imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6351584 adjusted
- 00:50:813 (5,6) - 00:51:773 (5,6) - This is pretty confusing for Hard diff thou, spacing it will be much better D: intentional
- 01:10:493 (2,1) - Not really a fan of this overlap tbh. Try maybe to avoid it? adjusted, but flow is intended here
- 01:35:933 (1) - 01:43:613 (7) - Well, two times same sound, but diffirent SV, is it specially? yes, the (1) is off kiai and instrumentals are muted at that point too.
*Also i have no idea why you decided to map 01:39:773 (7) - as a 1/8 when actually there are 1/4 beats lol. for the same reason as 02:13:853 (5) - vocals.

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Spork Lover

727 posts

Joined October 2013

Spork Lover 2016-10-18T19:53:34+00:00

Heyo, M4M from yer Q ^-^

Color coding:

Color coding

Unrankable if unchanged
Normal Suggestion/Comment
Strong Suggestion

General

Doesn't really matter, but you could remove widescreen supp so people don't complain about it lmfao

Rip euny and irre xd (tags)

00:51:773 - I feel like removing the normal sampleset on this note is a lot better than having it, because the sounds on 00:50:333 - to 00:51:053 - compared to 00:51:293 - to 00:52:013 - is almost the same. The "new segment" starts at 00:52:253 - anyway, where the normal sampleset makes a lot more sense to use

It's in general because I assume it applies to all difficulties.

00:42:173 (5,1) - The "bongo" sound would sound a lot better on the (1) because it acts like a clap, but is supposed to work as a finish. xd
02:18:173 (5,1) - same applies here.

^ these are the only "general" hitsound related things I spotted which I felt sounded odd imo though

There's going to be a guideline really soon about combo colors regarding luminosity (it's advised to not go over 210). Combo color 5 (present in insane and above) is really bright and has a pretty weird contrast anyway to the other notes imo since it's so bright. I'd advice you switch it out with something different. An idea for something that is exactly 210 luminosity is this. Pure white just seems a little odd if you get me, and I think the "rise in brightness" is still there for the blue stuff ^^

Normal

01:11:453 (3,4) - Is there supposed to be two finishes? xd If there are, then you should add another before the ending of the peak, 'cause that part feels empty compared to these two finishes

Advanced

00:32:813 (1) - This is the only time where you ignore the big white tick when the red tick isn't emphasized in some way. I feel like if you made the downbeat clickable, it would help this section out a fair bit

I don't really feel like the red tick the slider is following isn't really too emphasized anyway xd

02:22:013 - clap instead of whistle?

Nekomata's Hard

00:28:493 - You're missing a pretty strong vocal sound here imo, and considering the fact that you use a lot of single taps just before this, you should probably be able to get away with something like this or this, so there's a sound on the vocal. I think the 2nd option I mentioned is probably the best idea here

01:23:933 (4,5) - There's a peak thingy where the slider is, so you can do some small jumps here - An idea could be this
^ This is because your 2nd kiai is pretty intensive compared to this one, while the rhythm/spacing choise should be somewhat similar. I think this tiny jump section will help with the beginning (you can adjust as you see fit xd)

Insane

00:18:533 - note here for consistency with 00:16:613 (3) - ? There's a vocal sound on both that part and on 00:16:613 (3) - where you placed one. She says "I" on the part you didn't add one to.

00:54:173 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - All of this is the exact same rhythm xd I think it would be a little more intuitive if you added a reverse or something else to the patterns on 01:00:893 (3,4,5) - and 01:08:573 (3,4,5) - . An idea could be this, where it's the same audible rhythm.

Mix it up at least in some way. xd This thing obviously applies to the 2nd part too if you choose to add it xd Notice that on the extra diff, you made some variety on 01:04:733 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:57:053 (1,2,3,4) -

01:13:373 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I'm not really the biggest fan of this sudden increase in spacing xd I was thinking that it would be gradually increasing, a bit like you do at 01:15:293 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - on the hardest diff where the jumps increase in spacing. And since the 1/2 jumps on the insane are technically the peak, wouldn't it fit, if they have some sort of "gradual" change too?

01:15:773 (2) - Missing whistle, might apply to the other diffs too.

02:54:653 (1) - You follow the zig-zag flow better if the slider is on this spot, and it'll also emphasize it a lot better because the cursor is forced to change movement.

03:08:093 (1) - I feel like this looks better xd

03:39:293 (2) - ctrl+g'ing this would make the flow a lot better, considering you follow the slider (like most players at this range will definitely do)

03:41:213 (2) and 03:54:653 (2,2) - same

Natnyble Extra

00:32:093 (1,1) - The vocals go in 1/3 here I think? Applies to other places where it's the same xd

02:13:853 (3) - Extend this to the red tick, there's like 5 sounds I think here, feels weird that it's shorter xd

solid ^-^

OPPA

Random play of the map (I'm rank #650) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6355031
My HP drained down on the two long streams, 'cause I can't stream 250 BPM streams that are this long. They gave me around 35 of the 100's and all the 50's I got xd.

There's a lot of slow parts in the song, so I don't feel like AR10 is suitable for these parts especially. They feel a lot more reactionary if anything, making them play a little meh and more based on muscle memory for the parts where you focus on vocals, where it's not inconsistent (like the intro) To even out the AR a little bit while still making the jumps and stream parts play well, I'd advice reducing it to 9.8 instead (It's a significant improvement for gameplay imo)
This concept kinda goes for the slow parts when it comes to the OD as well. Here 9.3 or something is probably better.

00:16:613 (1,2) - Switch NC, this was really confusing on my sightread attempt lol

00:18:533 (1,2) - same

03:55:973 (4,1) - The flow is really odd here, slider or not lol xd You didn't really place the "GO" in a convenient position for the G slider anyway (about all 4 sections), 'cause flow-wise, these things would be a lot more intuitive, but yeah, I feel that the flow lacks because of the position. If you moved the entire GO for the 4 places (something like this), you'd have a lot more opportunities to make the flow to the G-sliders a lot better.

Apart from these things, I feel like the diff is totally fine. There's some tweak things probably, but these things I mentioned here are the only ones that I felt were unhealthy or unintuitive and could be executed a little better

My map is on your queue xd

I wish you a lot of luck with the mapset, hopefully I can play the 250 BPM streams properly one day lol

Last edited by Spork Lover 2016-10-19T04:04:14+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Shyotamaze

917 posts

Joined December 2014

Shyotamaze 2016-10-18T22:59:40+00:00

Hi, M4M from your queue, here's my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/503563

General

01:39:773 I don't really understand why the Hard maps those kind of vocal sounds as 1/8s while the higher diffs map them as 1/4s

Advanced

03:16:733 (2,3) - Nazi blanket (pls don't kill me)

Nekomata's Hard

01:37:733 Add a note?
02:05:573 ^ (There are probably other triples that you missed)
02:06:173 (5) - I kinda disagree with this since before you were mapping to vocals/drums and here you suddenly switch to the background noise idk how it's called, you shouldn't ignore those beats imo 02:06:413 02:06:653
03:19:613 (6) - Here you're mapping the "PA" with only a circle when here 01:43:613 (7) - 01:35:933 (1) - 03:11:933 (1) - you did it with a slider? Make it consistent please

Insane

00:26:573 You didn't map the vocal triple here but you did it here 00:24:653 (6,7,8) - ?

Natsu & Euny's Extra feat. Irreversible

02:13:853 (3) - Sounds like it's ending on the red tick instead

OPPA

01:28:253 (1,2,3) - Some kind of symmetry would be cool imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6355071 or maybe the same kind of shape as 01:27:773 (2) - for 01:28:253 (1) -
03:11:693 (1,1) - It's the only time in this diff where they are not stacked which feels a bit weird for me tbh but maybe it's just me

Really nice map, I tried my best but I can't find many things sorry orz, my map is pretty short and has only 3 diffs so I hope it's not a problem tho

Good luck!

maybe I'll end up loving KPOP if there are more cool maps like that

Nekomata

807 posts

Joined December 2013

Nekomata 2016-10-19T01:45:07+00:00

Spork Lover wrote:
Nekomata's Hard
00:28:493 - You're missing a pretty strong vocal sound here imo, and considering the fact that you use a lot of single taps just before this, you should probably be able to get away with something like this or this, so there's a sound on the vocal. I think the 2nd option I mentioned is probably the best idea here good idea

01:23:933 (4,5) - There's a peak thingy where the slider is, so you can do some small jumps here - An idea could be this
^ This is because your 2nd kiai is pretty intensive compared to this one, while the rhythm/spacing choise should be somewhat similar. I think this tiny jump section will help with the beginning (you can adjust as you see fit xd) since the first half of the kiai isn't as intense, i choose to let the flow provide the emphasis here.

Shyotamaze wrote:
General
01:39:773 I don't really understand why the Hard maps those kind of vocal sounds as 1/8s while the higher diffs map them as 1/4s i would rather not do slider jumps, and using a stream will be too much for the difficulty i'm aiming for. 1/8 repeater matches up with the vocals and provides intensity for the player by forcing a read on the next circle.
Nekomata's Hard
01:37:733 Add a note? keeping it simple here. it's a very minor triple too.
02:05:573 ^ (There are probably other triples that you missed)
02:06:173 (5) - I kinda disagree with this since before you were mapping to vocals/drums and here you suddenly switch to the background noise idk how it's called, you shouldn't ignore those beats imo 02:06:413 02:06:653 adjusted
03:19:613 (6) - Here you're mapping the "PA" with only a circle when here 01:43:613 (7) - 01:35:933 (1) - 03:11:933 (1) - you did it with a slider? Make it consistent please adjusted - added jump since it's actually the second (more intense) kiai

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Natsu

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Topic Starter

Natsu 2016-10-19T04:47:46+00:00

Zectro wrote:
[OPPA]
Right from the start it's really fast. I'd expect some kind of buildup, but you're thrown right into the action. In this case it's a bit too fast for the first 3 seconds of the map. I'd make it a bit easier, up until like 00:19:613 - . But ofcourse that's only subjective. but it starts really fast, I must keep the feeling with the map
00:29:933 (1,2,3) - I don't understand why the spacing's so huge here, I get that it enters the next 'part' of the song there but it seems too much. because the vocals are stronger? if you notice even the girl hit the wall 3 times o.o
00:50:333 (1,2,3,4) - & 00:51:293 (1,2,3,4) - seem quite overmapped to me seems you have a wrong concept about overmap, overmap: placing objects that doesn't exist in the music, my objects are clearly following the vocals.
01:17:213 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Yeah, this is a 7* map but this is REALLY hard to hit; I'd nerf it. really invalid reason to nerf something, is the hardest part of the map yes, but it is also the spike point in the song, if you feel better my 2k player friend FC this part at first try, also this got nerfed already from test plays, yes I asked to like 20 players from the top 100
01:20:093 (1,2) - These are very slow sv while following the same vocals as 01:24:413 (1,2) - . I'm not saying it's wrong, but it seems kinda weird, and I think consistency would be better here. man, being the same vocals doesn't means they have the same pitch and sound, just listen to the instruments and you will notice why.
01:31:133 (1) - This should be 2 notes I think, because of consistency with 01:27:293 (3,4) - etc. again the situation is different, you don't have to map the same sounds as the same objects, you need to take in consideration a lot of stuff
01:39:773 (1,2,3,4) - This is all the more reason to change the spacing at 00:50:333 (1,2,3,4) - & 00:51:293 (1,2,3,4) - , 01:39:773 (1,2,3,4) - is way more intense but has way lower spacing. I nerfed the first jumps a bit from some irc in game, but they are still jumps, since I feel the vocals make something unique there ;o
02:53:213 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This DOES feel okay. I don't know if it's because of the position in the playfield, or the jumps before it, but it feels good, unlike 01:17:213 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - is basically the same pattern
03:00:413 (1,2) - Same as earlier, need consistency with 02:56:093 (1,2) - imo (or other way around). again those parts are different and not related to each other
Rest seems great
[Natsu & Euny's Extra feat. Irreversible]
After playing it I noticed that there's a huge difficulty difference between this diff and OPPA. Consider mapping an extreme, or another extra, whatever you would like to call it. there are no huge difference, you are only looking at the star rating, for example if I remove the jumps at both stream sections that OPPA diff will be like 6 stars, blame the star system, always judge based on the map, if you compare the note density and the patterns both diff are really similar, the only thing that make oppa harder is the ¨spacing¨, even you can look at the insane which keep a similar rhythm, 1 more diff would just look the same as oppa or to the extra diff.
00:26:573 (1) - A bit too confusing because of 00:26:093 (2) - Irreversible
01:29:213 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I get the idea behind this but it feels very anticlimactic in this part of the song it fit the vocals really nice, I really don't have any intention of changing this.
02:13:853 (3) - You can probably make this follow the vocals better Irreversible
03:42:653 (1,2,3,4) - I'd change the pattern of these as there are no vocals to follow here. but there are instruments to follow
I'm not really good at modding lower diffs anyways, so I hope this is enough. yeah of course is fine I'll kod your map, but don't expect me to mod it fully, because you didn't mod the map full as well.

p/5549474
My map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/485223

Kalibe wrote:
General*
- Uncheck Widescreen on diffs where it is enabled. this doesn't matter unless you have SB
[Normal]
- Well this is the easiest diff in set, so decreasing ar will be nice idea, especially for newbies. Try maybe AR 4,5 or maybe 4 ? AR has notbing to do with difficulty, if you feel a determinate AR is hard to read in a map, then the map is using a bad AR setting, I feels 5 play the best here, since 4 feels too slow
- Stack leniency 0.2 in Normal and Easy are pretty much weird to me. Why wouldn't you just change it to 4 for example, it gives much better reading in stacking imo. there are no hard to read stacks
- 02:13:853 (5) - How about adding here NC? There's diffirent sound that only one time occurs in song. interesting, I'll think about this a bit more.
- 02:19:133 (2,1) - Why not just stacking it them? isn't noticeable in game tbh

[Advanced]
- 02:29:213 (3) - You skipping a nice sound on red tick : o // Try maybe to change 02:29:213 (3) - into 1/2 + circle? I think is fine, since it follows the hold vocal, also I don't want to add much 1/2s the diff is already full with them

[Insane]

- 01:12:893 (5,1,2) - Don't you think those jumps are kinda sudden? From 01:12:653 (4,5) - which is spaced normally 1.6 ds you used in next 01:12:893 (5,1) - two times bigger ds. is fine, since is a slider to circle transition in such low bpm, also the hard diff is really hard as well, it is fine
* Considering spacing 01:13:373 (1,2) - and 02:49:373 (1,2) - second one is less spaced and more intuitive imo. is really fine, isn't a big difference, and those parts are mean to be jumpy

[Natsu & Euny's Extra feat. Irreversible]

- 01:23:573 (4) - If my ears aren't bad, here it's 1/6 on 01:23:533 - and 01:23:613 - so there's nothing on 1/4 tho. I'll ask about this, but im sure is 1/4
- 01:27:293 (3,4) - ^ same thing same
- 03:04:253 (1,1) - Are these NC really nessesary? At least you could delete that one 03:04:493 (1) - Irreversible
- 03:09:293 (1,1) - Same for this, i don't see any problem with reading here, so also maybe remove ncs? Irreversible

Spork Lover wrote:
General

Doesn't really matter, but you could remove widescreen supp so people don't complain about it lmfao hahahaha probably i should, but I'll not tbh, people need to learn how ws works

00:51:773 - I feel like removing the normal sampleset on this note is a lot better than having it, because the sounds on 00:50:333 - to 00:51:053 - compared to 00:51:293 - to 00:52:013 - is almost the same. The "new segment" starts at 00:52:253 - anyway, where the normal sampleset makes a lot more sense to use It's in general because I assume it applies to all difficulties. but they are normal sampleset too 00:51:293 (1,2,3,4) - maybe you meant the clap?

00:42:173 (5,1) - The "bongo" sound would sound a lot better on the (1) because it acts like a clap, but is supposed to work as a finish. xd
02:18:173 (5,1) - same applies here. I'm using that sound for the fast sliders mostly, that's why :l, red + boom!

There's going to be a guideline really soon about combo colors regarding luminosity (it's advised to not go over 210). Combo color 5 (present in insane and above) is really bright and has a pretty weird contrast anyway to the other notes imo since it's so bright. I'd advice you switch it out with something different. An idea for something that is exactly 210 luminosity is this. Pure white just seems a little odd if you get me, and I think the "rise in brightness" is still there for the blue stuff ^^ nope, is white as warning for a pause, white color is only an issue at kiai time, also I'm not overusing it, is just for some sliders at the slowdowns

Advanced

00:32:813 (1) - This is the only time where you ignore the big white tick when the red tick isn't emphasized in some way. I feel like if you made the downbeat clickable, it would help this section out a fair bit I don't really feel like the red tick the slider is following isn't really too emphasized anyway xd it follows the whole word D:

Insane

00:54:173 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - All of this is the exact same rhythm xd I think it would be a little more intuitive if you added a reverse or something else to the patterns on 01:00:893 (3,4,5) - and 01:08:573 (3,4,5) - . An idea could be this, where it's the same audible rhythm. Mix it up at least in some way. xd This thing obviously applies to the 2nd part too if you choose to add it xd Notice that on the extra diff, you made some variety on 01:04:733 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:57:053 (1,2,3,4) - In the extra I'm following the vocals a bit more, but at this diff i'm only following the instruments.

01:13:373 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I'm not really the biggest fan of this sudden increase in spacing xd I was thinking that it would be gradually increasing, a bit like you do at 01:15:293 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - on the hardest diff where the jumps increase in spacing. And since the 1/2 jumps on the insane are technically the peak, wouldn't it fit, if they have some sort of "gradual" change too? I really love this part, the hardest diff is basically the same, the 1/4s are increased yes, but no the 1/2s, I really love jumps >:

02:54:653 (1) - You follow the zig-zag flow better if the slider is on this spot, and it'll also emphasize it a lot better because the cursor is forced to change movement. I need to think about this one more, since atm I need to move the next stuff too

Natnyble Extra
00:32:093 (1,1) - The vocals go in 1/3 here I think? Applies to other places where it's the same xd is Irreversible part, but I really think the vocals are in 1/8, i meant the song is based at 1/4s mostly, i think the vocal can be a bit off, but still 1/8, i'll ask about this.

02:13:853 (3) - Extend this to the red tick, there's like 5 sounds I think here, feels weird that it's shorter xd Irreversible

solid ^-^
OPPA

00:16:613 (1,2) - Switch NC, this was really confusing on my sightread attempt lol my combos are mostly following vocals >:

00:18:533 (1,2) - same

Shyotamaze wrote:
Insane
00:26:573 You didn't map the vocal triple here but you did it here 00:24:653 (6,7,8) - ? for variation
Natsu & Euny's Extra feat. Irreversible
02:13:853 (3) - Sounds like it's ending on the red tick instead Irreversible
OPPA
03:11:693 (1,1) - It's the only time in this diff where they are not stacked which feels a bit weird for me tbh but maybe it's just me just for variation
Really nice map, I tried my best but I can't find many things sorry orz, my map is pretty short and has only 3 diffs so I hope it's not a problem tho
Good luck! maybe I'll end up loving KPOP if there are more cool maps like that

thanks everyone~

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2016-10-22T11:56:54+00:00

Zectro wrote:
[Natsu & Euny's Extra feat. Irreversible]
After playing it I noticed that there's a huge difficulty difference between this diff and OPPA. Consider mapping an extreme, or another extra, whatever you would like to call it.
00:20:453 (1) - Doesn't properly follow the vocals as far as I can hear Natsu or Euny, this should really be fixed XD
00:26:573 (1) - A bit too confusing because of 00:26:093 (2) - That's totally fine with what the song offers
01:29:213 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I get the idea behind this but it feels very anticlimactic in this part of the song
01:43:613 (1,1) - Imperfect blanket
02:13:853 (3) - You can probably make this follow the vocals better Yes
02:57:053 - This 2nd 'drop' is so different than the first one(I know it's a collab), and I don't know if that's okay because different sounds are being followed and emphasized, which can cause confusion Natsu adjusted his part <3
03:42:653 (1,2,3,4) - I'd change the pattern of these as there are no vocals to follow here.
I'm not really good at modding lower diffs anyways, so I hope this is enough.

p/5549474
My map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/485223

Kalibe wrote:
[Natsu & Euny's Extra feat. Irreversible]

- 01:23:573 (4) - If my ears aren't bad, here it's 1/6 on 01:23:533 - and 01:23:613 - so there's nothing on 1/4 tho.
- 01:27:293 (3,4) - ^ same thing
- 02:02:333 (1,2) - Editor is bad, please fix that stack. Well, try fixing it; it won't work XD That's something which is built-in
- 03:04:253 (1,1) - Are these NC really nessesary? At least you could delete that one 03:04:493 (1) - fix
- 03:09:293 (1,1) - Same for this, i don't see any problem with reading here, so also maybe remove ncs? fix

I'm really bad at modding 7 stars diff, so yea that's all from me. OPPA!

my map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/515921 :>

Spork Lover: I'm not sure if it's 1/3... fixed the 1/8.

http://puu.sh/rRCaZ/57ae1fae7f.txt

OPPA!

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-10-23T09:47:28+00:00

done~+ added sb names ~ redownload pls ^_^

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2016-10-29T08:43:10+00:00

OPPA

01:17:993 (2,3,4,1) - The stream shape here just seems a bit off.
01:51:293 (1) - Not perfectly symmetrical if you care. Rotate the slider by -2 degrees from Selection Center to fix~
02:02:333 (1,2,3,4) - I think you should follow the vocal rhythm here since the previous 4 sliders all clearly follow the vocal layer

~

03:22:493 (3,4,5) - This pattern felt really close together. Arrange 5 so that its not so close to 3 and 4?

~

Natsuny + Irre Extra

00:16:733 (2,3) - Shouldn't this be Ctrl+G'ed, the rhythm here just sounds realy off for me because of how you made the previous pattern. Rhythn should be like 00:18:533 (1,2,3,4,5) - .
01:38:813 (2,3,4) - Aesthetically, its just not evenly structured.

~

01:43:613 (1,1) - Head section of the blue slider can be blanketted better.
02:06:013 (3,4) - 03:10:253 (3,4,5,6) - These should be 1/4's imo. I can't hear 1/6's, but I can hear 1/4's xP. (The second one sounds like 1/8's actually, )

Insane

00:20:573 (6,1) - :C

Nekomata's Hard

00:26:333 (7) - I would turn this into two circles instead, that way you can click to begin the triplet on 00:26:573 - for the vocals.
00:36:413 (5,1,2,3,4,5) - Is it possible to space them a bit farther apart so the pattern doesn't feel so packed together? 00:37:373 (3) - Try and avoid the overlap with slider 5's tail.
02:13:853 (5) - How about NC'ing? Its quite unique even in the music, since the instruments pause.

Lower diffs look good.

Natsu

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Natsu 2016-10-29T09:23:51+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
Natsuny + Irre Extra

00:16:733 (2,3) - Shouldn't this be Ctrl+G'ed, the rhythm here just sounds realy off for me because of how you made the previous pattern. Rhythn should be like 00:18:533 (1,2,3,4,5) - . vocals x;

Nekomata

807 posts

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Nekomata 2016-10-30T22:25:16+00:00

updated, all changed except 00:26:333 - prefer smoother flow with the slider here.
changed also 00:28:613 - since it was triggering me a bit

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Irreversible

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Irreversible 2016-10-31T00:44:45+00:00

fixed all thx

Gero

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Joined March 2012

Gero 2016-11-01T01:17:22+00:00

Looks great.

Changes/Fixes

Added some whistles and finishers in all difficulties.
Fixed some patterns to increase the aesthetics
We have improved some rhythms and flow.
Added New Combos on the last difficulty.

Log (Spanish)

19:05 *Gero is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1065884 BLACKPINK - BOOMBAYAH [OPPA]]
19:05 *Natsu is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1065884 BLACKPINK - BOOMBAYAH [OPPA]]
19:05 Gero: 00:16:613 (5) - Se te olvido añadir un NC aqui, es extraño ya que es un cambio notable en la lirica
19:05 Natsu: done
19:05 Gero: 00:23:453 (1) - Whistle?
19:06 Natsu: simon el drum
19:06 Gero: 00:36:413 (4) - Un clap en la cabeza del slider?
19:06 Natsu: si maje ya se me olvidaba
19:07 Gero: 00:38:333 (1) - La forma de este slider no aporta nada a la musica, siento que un slider circular encajaria mucho mejor
19:07 Natsu: lo hice mas circular maje
19:07 Natsu: pero q no overlap
19:07 Gero: 01:10:013 (2) - Clap en la cabeza del slider
19:08 Natsu: done
19:10 Gero: 02:03:413 (2) - Mueve este circulo a X:195 Y:142 para mejor flujo respecto al jump
19:11 Natsu: hecho maje
19:12 Gero: 03:31:253 (2,3) - Aumenta el spacing entre estos dos criculos, siento que estan demasiado cerca y creo que la canción se siente más densa
19:12 Gero: 03:38:813 (1,2) - GO!!!
19:12 Natsu: hecho
19:12 Natsu: hahah my magic
19:12 Natsu: !
19:12 Gero: 03:58:133 (2) - Olvidaste el Clap pero Drum
19:13 Gero: Eso seria todo, cuando estes listo avisame para Bubblearlo
19:14 Natsu: listo

~ Bubbled feat. Irreversible ~

Natsu

8,076 posts

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Topic Starter

Natsu 2016-11-01T01:32:18+00:00

gracias gorda

Luel Roseline

1,034 posts

Joined February 2014

Luel Roseline 2016-11-01T23:56:05+00:00

Light IRC checked

I'm so tired cause It's morning in here

08:46 S A V E R Y: Hi Natsu
08:46 Natsu: Hi
08:47 *S A V E R Y is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1108756 BLACKPINK - BOOMBAYAH [Normal]]
08:47 S A V E R Y: Some light check here
08:47 Natsu: oh tell me?
08:47 S A V E R Y: yeop
08:49 S A V E R Y: Some breaktime change in normal diff
08:49 Natsu: breaktime?
08:49 S A V E R Y: Yes
08:49 S A V E R Y: 01:51:773 - Start
08:50 Natsu: yeah that's cool man

Natsu

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Topic Starter

Natsu 2016-11-02T00:03:03+00:00

yeah thanks, I'll add it later

Yuii-

2,501 posts

Joined July 2013

Yuii- 2016-11-02T00:53:09+00:00

Hello Natsu,

After looking at the top difficulty on the mapset, I would love to see other people talking about it since it just seems very overdone and unnecessary from what the song is actually requesting for.
There are two spots in the OPPA difficulty, namely 01:15:293 - and 02:51:293 - , were the SR is raised by almost half a star (goes to 6.4 SR if you delete both sections); that is such a huge difficulty spike for such map/song.

On a side note, the gap between Nekomata's difficulty and the Advanced is just too much. The amount of streams on the Hard difficulty is pretty big considering how the difficulty is being mapped, it's comparable with the Insane difficulty, actually. A nerf to most of the streams would balance things much better, the density is pretty high currently. By the way, I am mostly talking about the beginning of the map, that is the most noticeable section. On the second part, more specifically 01:59:453 - , even though there are still some 1/4 rhythms (and that I would recommend more opinions on that) it is much more balanced.

Good luck with further processing!

Natsu

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Topic Starter

Natsu 2016-11-02T01:11:54+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
Hello Natsu,

After looking at the top difficulty on the mapset, I would love to see other people talking about it since it just seems very overdone and unnecessary from what the song is actually requesting for.
There are two spots in the OPPA difficulty, namely 01:15:293 - and 02:51:293 - , were the SR is raised by almost half a star (goes to 6.4 SR if you delete both sections); that is such a huge difficulty spike for such map/song.

On a side note, the gap between Nekomata's difficulty and the Advanced is just too much. The amount of streams on the Hard difficulty is pretty big considering the difficulty that is being mapped, it's comparable with the Insane difficulty, actually. A nerf to most of the streams would balance things much better, the density is pretty high currently. By the way, I am mostly talking about the beginning of the map, that is the most noticeable section. On the second part, more specifically 01:59:453 - , even though there are still some 1/4 rhythms (and that I would recommend more opinions on that) it is much more balanced.

Good luck with further processing!

Hello yui, first to all idk why you talking about SR, tbh we all know how it becomes crazy with high spacing, I asked like 20 players in the top 1 -100 to play the map and most of them love it as you can see in the map thread from modders as well.

Yes those parts do a big spike, but doesn't the song have a big spike too? if we are representing the music as close as we are supposed to do, then I think I did a nice work, both parts were a way harder before, but they got nerfed by alot already and I don't wish to nerf them more, since that's is agaisn't of my wish with this map. Since in my point of view they represent the way I feel the song should be mapped and believe I got a lot of feedback about the playability and fit of this map, just most of the players prefered to don't post about it.

BTW I failed to understand why do you think the gap between advanced and hard is too much, since why are you comparing 2 diffs only? when you are comparing spread you need to compare the gaps between 3 diffs, since there are never difficulty spreads between 2 diffs, since you need 3 , let me explain you a bit more:

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Normal: use 1/1s mostly with a few 1/2 objects (since is such low bpm)

Advanced: use alot of 1/2 circles and hard to follow movements introducing the player to not-flowly cursor movements

Hard: use some 5 beats streams, which aren't a problem at low bpm and comming from playing a fully 1/2 advanced diff players wouldn't have any problem at hitting 5 beats at 125 bpm

Insane: use alot of 1/2 jumps and alot of 1/4 players comming from hard diff wouldn't have a hard time playing this, since hard already introduced streams

Extra: introduce spaced 1/4s and slider jumps which aren't much a problem to play after you tried the Insane diff.

OPPA: first star rating is inflated alot by the spacing, since the rhythm isn't different from Extra or Insane that much.

Also you can check the object count between each diff, making one harder or easier which only cause an issue with the spread instead of improving it

[]

The spike you pointed out, happen in the music as well and we are supposed to represent the music properly, every diff spike at this point as well, not only OPPA, oh btw I have already alot of feedback about the spread of this map and no one had problems with it. Anyways thanks for feedback, but I don't believe I have spread issues here.

[]

Edit: I asked to some more people about the spread and they are mostly fine or neutral about it, if i nerf hard then advanced will be not needed tbh, so I don't agree with the nerf and most of the opinions were the same.

About the jumps I talked with Yuii in game and other people, and I scaled them down, with the tool, 7,15 to 7,01 , yuii agreed with it:

Lazy to translate: basically I nerfed the jumps and we both are fine with it.

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I Must Decrease 2016-11-02T02:42:30+00:00

jesus 5.6 to 7.15 what is this, routing? xd

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Natsu 2016-11-02T02:43:36+00:00

Xexxar wrote:
jesus 5.6 to 7.15 what is this, routing? xd

is just because the spacing, yea is similar to it, check rhythms etc, extra and oppa aren't that different lol, blame ppv2, if I made other diff, it would not be different to oppa or extra >>

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I Must Decrease 2016-11-02T02:46:39+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Xexxar wrote:
jesus 5.6 to 7.15 what is this, routing? xd
is just because the spacing, yea is similar to it, check rhythms etc, extra and oppa aren't that different lol, blame ppv2, if I made other diff, it would not be different to oppa or extra >>

ya i agree, just messing with you

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Monstrata 2016-11-02T08:01:03+00:00

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Irreversible 2016-11-02T16:20:25+00:00

Xexxar wrote:
routing? xd

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Irreversible wrote:
Xexxar wrote:
routing? xd

Lmaooooooo

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Nozhomi 2016-11-03T22:47:23+00:00

Okay so I hear about the last diff and wanted to take a look because I think there's much points who need discussion.

OPPA

00:29:933 (1,2,3) - What is this spacing ? It's not more intense than previous section but still use a super high spacing for no valid reason.
01:15:293 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - I wonder why you missed the stack at 01:15:533 (3,1) - , and the star pattern for 01:15:293 (1,2,3,4,2) - is broken.
01:39:773 (1,2,3,4) - and all other like this use all the time a different spacing but the musical pattern is the same. The best option you used it 03:23:453 (1,2,3,4) - because it fits more the song when it's splitted in 2. So use some consistency for all of them.
01:49:133 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - The pattern with 01:50:093 (1,2) - should be different from rest simply because vocal changed, so the pattern don't fit it anymore since you used them with the same shape as a build-up.
02:46:493 (1,2,3,4) - Why use a 4 sliders pattern when only 3 of them fit the vocal ?
02:51:293 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I don't understand why you use a spacing and build-up different from 01:15:293 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - when the rest of this part is almost copy paste ? Keep some consistency when the song is the same.
03:33:293 (4) - Why you mapped them with a high curved slider when you did not with similar sounds like 03:37:133 (5) - ? You even did for 03:36:173 (4) - who is just before this one, it doesn't make sense.
03:42:653 (1,2,3,4) - Beats on 03:42:773 (2,4) - are super quiet (almost nothing for (4)), but still you use a super high spacing for them when there is absolutly no emphasis to have with the song. And it's overshadowing such a strong beat (1) with all these jumps. The same issue is present at 03:57:893 (4,1,2,3) - .

I think that's the most important to fix, if I ignore than the spacing looks really too much for some parts.
Thx~

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Natsu 2016-11-03T22:58:34+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
Okay so I hear about the last diff and wanted to take a look because I think there's much points who need discussion.

OPPA
00:29:933 (1,2,3) - What is this spacing ? It's not more intense than previous section but still use a super high spacing for no valid reason. The music increase alot, also you can see the girl in the video hitting the wall, there are alot of valid reasons for the spacing.
01:15:293 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - I wonder why you missed the stack at 01:15:533 (3,1) - , and the star pattern for 01:15:293 (1,2,3,4,2) - is broken. they are not meant to be stars patternsm if you notice the patterns are divided in 4 not in 5 combos, not all need to be perfect specially nazi things that doesnt affect the gameplay

01:39:773 (1,2,3,4) - and all other like this use all the time a different spacing but the musical pattern is the same. The best option you used it 03:23:453 (1,2,3,4) - because it fits more the song when it's splitted in 2. So use some consistency for all of them. the spacing don't have to be the same just because it sounds similar to other part, they are different patterns, the variations are there for give more diversity to the map, since the parts are repetitives and the spacing isn't that different, the variations are because of diffrent patterns being mapped
01:49:133 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - The pattern with 01:50:093 (1,2) - should be different from rest simply because vocal changed, so the pattern don't fit it anymore since you used them with the same shape as a build-up. I used it for symmetry and i love the pattern, sorry I dont want to break it
02:46:493 (1,2,3,4) - Why use a 4 sliders pattern when only 3 of them fit the vocal ? they aren't following the vocals in the first place
02:51:293 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I don't understand why you use a spacing and build-up different from 01:15:293 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - when the rest of this part is almost copy paste ? Keep some consistency when the song is the same. making things different bring diversity to the map, I don't agree with you at this point, yes is almost the same pattern with a few variations which is totally acceptable
03:33:293 (4) - Why you mapped them with a high curved slider when you did not with similar sounds like 03:37:133 (5) - ? You even did for 03:36:173 (4) - who is just before this one, it doesn't make sense. man the sliders shapes are there to fit the cursor movements in my maps, there is no shape that represent something here, they just follow the hold sounds, if I follow what you said, then I need to change all my sliders to be the same with other parts which doesn't make sense, since the variations are there for not making the map bored
03:42:653 (1,2,3,4) - Beats on 03:42:773 (2,4) - ar
e super quiet (almost nothing for (4)), but still you use a super high spacing for them when there is absolutly no emphasis to have with the song. And it's overshadowing such a strong beat (1) with all these jumps. The same issue is present at 03:57:893 (4,1,2,3) - . listen again the 4 hits exixt in the music with similar pitch, that's why I mapped it in this way, is how I think the music should be represented

I think that's the most important to fix, if I ignore than the spacing looks really too much for some parts.
Thx~

thanks for take a look, but I don't think anything will improve my map quality, instead they will lower the quality of my map and will lead it to be something else, but not my map, since, I believe my way represent better the song and also my design looks better, plus the slider shape variations exist at any map and your suggestions doens't really make the map better just make it different and I don't agree with it, anyways thanks again

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emilia 2016-11-07T08:54:30+00:00

LMAO THIS PART IS SUPPOSED TO BE 1/3 00:36:893 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) -

HAHAHAHAH FUCKING DONE

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Natsu 2016-11-07T09:01:54+00:00

[ Emillia ] wrote:
LMAO THIS PART IS SUPPOSED TO BE 1/3 00:36:893 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) -

HAHAHAHAH FUCKING DONE

Can you make your post serious and with respect, idk who you are, but I feel that rude in your part mainlye, because you aren't right, there are clearly sounds at :

00:36:893 - 00:37:133 - 00:37:253 - 00:37:373 - basically all is 1/4, without the vocals (I think they off), but the music is 1/4, mapping th off vocals at 1/3 will just cause problems with the playability, I already disscused this before and we conclude that is better to follow the instruments, also is more intuitive to follow the 1/4s, the only beat that you pointed that sounds like 1/3 is 00:37:733 (4) - , and if you listen careful the instrumental is 1/4 while the vocal is a bit off

anyways I invite you to read this: p/5433460 so you can have a better attitude with mapping and modding

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emilia 2016-11-07T15:05:21+00:00

00:37:493 (2,4) -

there is nothing here and yet still hitcircles smh i fucking hate overmapping

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Natsu 2016-11-07T15:08:45+00:00

00:37:733 (4) - there is a clearly sound in the music, you should be able to hear it without any problem, since is an instrumental one.
00:37:493 (2) - vocal is clearly as well

overmapping is mapping sounds were there is nothing in the music, but here you can hear them at different speeds, the sounds exist in the music.

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Nekomata 2016-11-07T15:25:16+00:00

there is no 1/3 at all in the song, and the part mentioned is vocal mapped.
even though the vocals are slightly offset, it's still approximately 1/4 timing.

i actually don't see any problem rhythm wise here.

that post looked quite rude and disrespectful and assuming you are fluent in english, you should probably know that it is. if that is your intention, then that's grounds for punishment here fyi

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emilia 2016-11-07T15:26:50+00:00

im sry for your loss

hearing loss, that is

00:37:533 - 00:37:773 - hearing on 100% is obvious, hearing on 25% is even more obvious

dont find some stupid reason to hide your overmapping just because its quali'd

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Natsu 2016-11-07T15:28:55+00:00

[ Emillia ] wrote:
im sry for your loss

hearing loss, that is

00:37:533 - 00:37:773 - hearing on 100% is obvious, hearing on 25% is even more obvious

dont find some stupid reason to hide your overmapping just because its quali'd

There are vocals and instruments, please don't use 25% it distort the song, I don't like to overmap and those two objects aren't overmapped clearly, I don't want to sound rude, but maybe your headphones have problems?, since I asked like 4 mappers (2 bns) and they also can hear the vocals/music clearly o.o.

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emilia 2016-11-07T15:36:00+00:00

BN/mapper = automatically more hearing ability than normal person

then i should use my #28 top player defense HIYAAA!!!!

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riffy 2016-11-07T19:17:43+00:00

Stay on topic, stay polite. This is your one and only chance to calm down and get the conversation going the right way.

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Nathan 2016-11-08T03:26:30+00:00

00:36:893 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) -

sounds much better with this snapping to me

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Natsu 2016-11-08T03:32:45+00:00

sukiNathan wrote:
00:36:893 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) -

sounds much better with this snapping to me

this part is so weird to me, tbh I really prefer the 1/4s than the 1/6s, since I think the vocals are just off there, also simplify 1/6s to 1/4s is somehow acceptable, anyways I'll let this up to the QATs, if they also disagree with my current rhythm (I consider it being better for the gameplay in general) I'll add some 1/2 simple rhtyhm instead.

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emilia 2016-11-08T03:43:59+00:00

sukiNathan wrote:
00:36:893 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4) -

sounds much better with this snapping to me

ty

politeness is only formality. if you're going to look past the point put across and come up with some daft, unpolished counter, might as well listen and take it as it is. if one (or a group of important people) can be so blind (or deaf) to blatant obliviousness haha lmao theres no point in debate at all because no criticism, no matter at what level of respect, will be taken into consideration. i prefer being abrupt and forcing my point across, if you don't like it just wait for someone "with actual mapping background/with some form of authority" to say something, because without anyone backing up my claim, be it being rude or not, will still mean nothing

im not asking for respect i really dont care if you've noticed

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Natsu 2016-11-08T03:48:14+00:00

Emilia I really I think you lack of manners alot and that's why I don't takeyou seriously, your claim about being 28 or 30 rank doesn't matter (look at your acc), when you post in a map thread it, do it with respect if you want to be taken seriously. Look at sukinathan post simple without bad words, that's alot better than any of your post.

Anyways don't worry as I explained, 1/6s are often simplified to 1/4s and that part sounds better in 1/4 to me and I think is better for the gameplay in general, anyways I'm asking to some QATs as soon as they get online, since none is online atm, to get their opinions about the matter, since isn't only about snapping, but also about playability, yeah smashing keys and fc isn't something that i want, that's why I worry about that weird snaps. If they don't agree with the current way I'll remove the 1/4s and keep the 1/2s only, but I think the 1/4s are somehow acceptables.

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Monstrata 2016-11-08T03:57:57+00:00

That's not "overmapping". If anything its simplifying an otherwise dubious rhythm. Nathan's proposed snapping is more accurate if you want to be perfectly accurate to the song, but that rhythm is really unfitting to the song and section imo. It works, but I think Natsu's current rhythm choice is already very predictable. Not all songs are made for rhythm games, so stuff like this is bound to happen with vocals.

The rhythm currently being used makes logical sense, and the section at 100% speed sounds like 1/4 rhythms. You should anticipate and expect 1/4 rhythm anyways when you consider the rest of the song, the song's pacing and rhythms being employed, as well as the jump spacing, etc...

As well, the instruments are definitely on beat so there is still a consistent and correct offset going through the section.

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Pachiru 2016-11-08T03:59:43+00:00

Chill guys, there is no way to be toxic, it's just a topic thread ^w^

Now Natsu, I would like to know if the 1/8 stream is allowed (if the mapset is qualified, I suppose yes, but it looks pretty hard to me owo)
I was just asking, so don't worry ^w^ here → 02:53:693 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -

emillia don't be toxic anymore pls ;w;

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Natsu 2016-11-08T04:02:21+00:00

Pachiru wrote:
Chill guys, there is no way to be toxic, it's just a topic thread ^w^

Now Natsu, I would like to know if the 1/8 stream is allowed (if the mapset is qualified, I suppose yes, but it looks pretty hard to me owo)
I was just asking, so don't worry ^w^

emillia don't be toxic anymore pls ;w;

depend of the bpm, this is 125 bpm song so the 1/8s are 1/4s at 250 bpm, they are acceptables .

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Pachiru 2016-11-08T04:03:24+00:00

ohhh yeah i understand now
thanks :3

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emilia 2016-11-08T06:04:25+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Emilia I really I think you lack of manners alot and that's why I don't takeyou seriously, your claim about being 28 or 30 rank doesn't matter (look at your acc), when you post in a map thread it, do it with respect if you want to be taken seriously. Look at sukinathan post simple without bad words, that's alot better than any of your post.

Anyways don't worry as I explained, 1/6s are often simplified to 1/4s and that part sounds better in 1/4 to me and I think is better for the gameplay in general, anyways I'm asking to some QATs as soon as they get online, since none is online atm, to get their opinions about the matter, since isn't only about snapping, but also about playability, yeah smashing keys and fc isn't something that i want, that's why I worry about that weird snaps. If they don't agree with the current way I'll remove the 1/4s and keep the 1/2s only, but I think the 1/4s are somehow acceptables.

boi with the acc roast

Monstrata wrote:
That's not "overmapping". If anything its simplifying an otherwise dubious rhythm. Nathan's proposed snapping is more accurate if you want to be perfectly accurate to the song, but that rhythm is really unfitting to the song and section imo. It works, but I think Natsu's current rhythm choice is already very predictable. Not all songs are made for rhythm games, so stuff like this is bound to happen with vocals.

The rhythm currently being used makes logical sense, and the section at 100% speed sounds like 1/4 rhythms. You should anticipate and expect 1/4 rhythm anyways when you consider the rest of the song, the song's pacing and rhythms being employed, as well as the jump spacing, etc...

As well, the instruments are definitely on beat so there is still a consistent and correct offset going through the section.

simplification to rhythm makes sense when its obvious that the music snaps to nothing on something like 1/12 and beyond, like when theres a glissando or a trill that can't exactly be placed on a certain beat snap division

sure its predictable, but that shouldnt be a reason to ignore the music entirely?? theres literally NOTHING on the hitcircles and hitcircles are supposed to emphasise something strong in the music. the only thing thats strong here is how deaf natsu is

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Natsu 2016-11-08T06:12:25+00:00

[ Emillia ] wrote:
simplification to rhythm makes sense when its obvious that the music snaps to nothing on something like 1/12 and beyond, like when theres a glissando or a trill that can't exactly be placed on a certain beat snap division

sure its predictable, but that shouldnt be a reason to ignore the music entirely?? theres literally NOTHING on the hitcircles and hitcircles are supposed to emphasise something strong in the music. the only thing thats strong here is how deaf natsu is

I already gave u all the reasons why the 1/4s work better, it is what is supposed to be, yeah u can tell is 1/6 at hearing with 25%, but at 100% speed people will assimilate it as a 1/4 like the rest of the map, throwing 1/6s there will just throw off any player wich is following at certain rhythm, since the vocals aren't something strong that can define a beat there, doing something simple as 1/4s works better. BTW simplification to the rhythm works when it does improve the gameplay experience which is the case here, not only when is 1/12 or so, many 1/6s quarter notes are mapped as 1/4 triplets in alot of maps, because that works alot better and that's also is the case here, yes I asked a lot of good accuracy players in the top 1 - 100 (some of them are listed in the OP) and they have literally 0 problems at this part which not gonna be the case with randoms 1/6s.

your only argument is that is 1/6, but u don't tell me why it gonna work better in the actual gameplay, if you look at the players replay, they play that part naturally, since at full speed the 1/4 is intuitive.

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emilia 2016-11-08T06:32:52+00:00

Natsu wrote:
I already gave u all the reasons why the 1/4s work better, it is what is supposed to be, yeah u can tell is 1/6 at hearing with 25%, but at 100% speed people will assimilate it as a 1/4 like the rest of the map, throwing 1/6s there will just throw off any player wich is following at certain rhythm, since the vocals aren't something strong that can define a beat there, doing something simple as 1/4s works better. BTW simplification to the rhythm works when it does improve the gameplay experience which is the case here, not only when is 1/12 or so, many 1/6s quarter notes are mapped as 1/4 triplets in alot of maps, because that works alot better and that's also is the case here, yes I asked a lot of good accuracy players in the top 1 - 100 (some of them are listed in the OP) and they have literally 0 problems at this part which not gonna be the case with randoms 1/6s.

your only argument is that is 1/6, but u don't tell me why it gonna work better in the actual gameplay, if you look at the players replay, they play that part naturally, since at full speed the 1/4 is intuitive.

there are multiple ways to map 1/6 rhythm without being counterintuitive, you dont just assume a position in which "oh it works" and run with it because, at times, it DOESNT work to begin with. why it works is because of momentum continuation, but you dont see people mapping only 1/4 for the entirety of a Camellia map, because it doesn't map to the rhythm. stuff like that should be "Loved" instead of "Ranked" because it could be fun and intuitive to play, but NOTHING being mapped on those notes for a Ranked map is really iffy and gross to me.

not just that, there are other issues with your map that others have overlooked because of your "quality mapping" tag to "Natsu"

01:23:453 (3,4) - 01:27:293 (3,4) - etc. 1/3 beats again (repeated)
01:39:773 (1,2,3,4) - 01:47:453 (1,2,3,4) - these are literally mapped to nothing, the only strong beat is on 01:39:773 (1) - and 01:47:453 (1) - while the rest (if you were to listen carefully) is actually on 1/3 AGAIN (repeated)
03:42:653 (1,2,3,4) - what is note 2 and 4 literally mapped on? nothing, again (repeated)

if you're going to mention emphasis, i can't say anything else dude, i'll leave you something else to run with lmao

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Natsu 2016-11-08T06:39:14+00:00

I really fail to understad what 1/3s are you talking about, they are 1/6s and yes i made those ¨off vocals things¨ as 1/4s because is more intuitive to play, I'm using circles not sliders as other maps, because that fit better the vocals, then again listen it to 100% speed. If the qats don't agree with me then I'll map only the 1/2s, because adding random 1/6s will be so painful or i'll add some 1/4 track to the song, anyways I really prefer my current way and read monstrata´s post again pls.

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emilia 2016-11-08T07:24:25+00:00

Natsu wrote:
read monstrata´s post again pls.

when i already replied to his post smh

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Okoayu 2016-11-08T11:46:00+00:00

The snapping issues especially the ones around 01:23:453 - 01:27:293 - and so forth are pretty valid concerns.

You simplified 1/6 in a section where
1. it can be perfectly predictable to have them
2. would be more fitting to have them...?

the vocal thing being somewhat off can be justified as simplification (though i don't see how you say you simplify 1/6 to 1/4 while mapping 1/8 straight out in the same diff)

besides getting to an agreement on a bunch of other places emilia mentioned i have a question as well:

01:17:213 (1,2,3,4) - why do these get short sliders while you map the rest of the stream out, i don't see what's different between these and 01:17:693 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - so why not use all circles while you're at that

also @irre:
02:10:973 - i dont think there's any 1/3 rhythm going on the vocals are attempting to do weird shit like http://puu.sh/saB5B/1a883f1c81.jpg
besides you mapped them as such in 02:09:053 (1,2,3,4,1) -

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