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sana - Terekakushi Shishunki

posted 2016-08-18T15:36:12+00:00

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emilia

Joined October 2012

emilia 2016-11-18T12:21:04+00:00

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Korey

141 posts

Joined August 2013

Korey 2016-11-28T10:44:35+00:00

from modreqs, hope it helps

SPOILER

Adolescence

00:30:259 - 00:33:436 - 00:36:612 - triples like this really take emphasis away. 01:47:642 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - really bad case here when the overmapped triple is right before the triple which im not a fan of
00:12:524 - start the 1/1 slider here and change 00:12:877 (1) - to circles since youve consistantly started sliders on those sounds and you should click the downbeat on 00:13:054 -
00:14:995 (3) - i think itd be better if this was just a 1/1 slider and you had a note on 00:15:701 -
00:22:583 (4) - not much reason to curve the slider that much imo. you could also follow the vocal line better by have a circle on 00:22:230 - 1/2 slider on 00:22:407 - circle on 00:22:759 -
00:25:583 (6) - this should just be a circle, you havent been doing this previously so it doesnt make much sense.
00:29:289 (5,7) - these two circles are barely emphasised when they should be since youve given all the jumps here large spacing. and i dont know why you lower the spacing drastically after 00:29:289 (5) -
00:40:495 - missing a sound here
00:44:818 (5) - i think it needs more spacing since youre emphasising the white ticks here at normally 2.5x but it goes down to 2x for not much reason when its arguably louder.
00:44:995 (6) - lower spacing you could change it to a kick slider to give 00:45:171 (8) - proper emphasis
00:46:583 (3,4) - maybe curve these to differentiate from 00:46:230 (1,2) -
01:09:348 (7,1,2) - you shouldnt undermap here imo since i dont see a good reason to and its not representing the music
01:37:230 (7,8) - these should just be circles
01:51:877 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the white ticks should be emphasised here this is really lazy
01:54:171 (8) - change to a circle to differentiate from the next two kick sliders
01:59:642 (5,6,7) - you had these 2/3 jumps NC'd at 00:51:877 (1,1,1) - you should be consistant
02:21:348 (6) - this shouldnt be stacked on the other circle since youve moved 02:20:818 (4) -
02:27:877 (5) - less spacing for something so quiet
02:29:995 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - spacing doesnt make much sense here
02:34:229 (1) - slider here
02:44:112 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the rhythm choice here is a mess. 02:44:289 - you under map the triple here. 02:44:907 - the blue tick here 02:45:083 (4) - dont emphasis this blue tick which id probably do with a 1/4 repeat slider up till 02:45:259 - which you also undermapped
02:56:819 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is pretty retarded

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2016-11-28T16:46:45+00:00

ikorza wrote:
from modreqs, hope it helps

SPOILER
Adolescence
00:30:259 - 00:33:436 - 00:36:612 - triples like this really take emphasis away. 01:47:642 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - really bad case here when the overmapped triple is right before the triple which im not a fan of This is not wrong in any way, those triples are how this is mapped and it doesn't take any emphasis away, I emphasize the song in different moments in different ways.
00:12:524 - start the 1/1 slider here and change 00:12:877 (1) - to circles since youve consistantly started sliders on those sounds and you should click the downbeat on 00:13:054 - Nah it's fine like this
00:14:995 (3) - i think itd be better if this was just a 1/1 slider and you had a note on 00:15:701 - Considered but I want the repeat it feels good in these moments, fits with that sound and is just like a bell.
00:22:583 (4) - not much reason to curve the slider that much imo. you could also follow the vocal line better by have a circle on 00:22:230 - 1/2 slider on 00:22:407 - circle on 00:22:759 - That is also a fine idea although I'd like to stay with my current pattern, the curve is there for patterning purposes, looks good and flows well.
00:25:583 (6) - this should just be a circle, you havent been doing this previously so it doesnt make much sense. It's just a rhythm diversity, also done a bit for visuals but I'll consider this!
00:29:289 (5,7) - these two circles are barely emphasised when they should be since youve given all the jumps here large spacing. and i dont know why you lower the spacing drastically after 00:29:289 (5) - Yes, fixed the jump pattern, these should have most emphasis.
00:40:495 - missing a sound here Fixeed
00:44:818 (5) - i think it needs more spacing since youre emphasising the white ticks here at normally 2.5x but it goes down to 2x for not much reason when its arguably louder. I don't really have to follow the same spacing like THAT, the song chanes so spacing should change aswell sometimes depending on many factors, right there I don't want to go too far from the map because it would play uncomfortably in the corner, this pattern plays well and fits the song nicely, that's what I aim for, I could increase spacing but then the next jump would be too big.
00:44:995 (6) - lower spacing you could change it to a kick slider to give 00:45:171 (8) - proper emphasis Nope, I like my triples.
00:46:583 (3,4) - maybe curve these to differentiate from 00:46:230 (1,2) - Look at 00:46:583 (3,1) - , there's no reason to curve them right there but the idea wasnot bad
01:09:348 (7,1,2) - you shouldnt undermap here imo since i dont see a good reason to and its not representing the music I added a note between 7 and 1, missed a triple there.
01:37:230 (7,8) - these should just be circles Definitely no, these kicksliders represent the sound in the background that comes with the beginning of them and gives the song a punch, that's my emphasis of it.
01:51:877 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the white ticks should be emphasised here this is really lazy How is this lazy, this is a pattern and it plays well, I don't need to emphasize everything in this map, if I did it would turn into Axion lol, this pattern plays really well also the direction changes back to reverse at the most prominent white tick, I think that's enough.
01:54:171 (8) - change to a circle to differentiate from the next two kick sliders That's not how I want to do it.
01:59:642 (5,6,7) - you had these 2/3 jumps NC'd at 00:51:877 (1,1,1) - you should be consistant Done
02:21:348 (6) - this shouldnt be stacked on the other circle since youve moved 02:20:818 (4) - I don't see any problem there, it's all done consistently in that pattern.
02:27:877 (5) - less spacing for something so quiet Yes
02:29:995 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - spacing doesnt make much sense here Hmm it does to me in my head, songs gets progressively stronger so I did easy jumps, then harder and then hardest.
02:34:229 (1) - slider here Fixed like later in the pattern. Reused one.
02:44:112 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the rhythm choice here is a mess. 02:44:289 - you under map the triple here. 02:44:907 - the blue tick here 02:45:083 (4) - dont emphasis this blue tick which id probably do with a 1/4 repeat slider up till 02:45:259 - which you also undermapped I don't know man I don't see problems there, it's not really undermapped, it's just using different sounds? I still changed cause I disliked the pattern and gave it a bit different clicking
02:56:819 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is pretty retarded The song drums fit that kind of pattern, it's spaced more than anything else in the song but this is also the most prominent part in the song.

thankk

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2016-11-28T17:57:26+00:00

m4m w
i update my diff when more mods are here and there there
and im bad modder pls no kill

General

ya no preview point
maybe can hitsound on early part 00:18:701 - like adding drum sample on every whites or idk xd

Akitoshi

Kyshiro

00:56:112 - 00:56:465 - maybe add 1/1 slider here since suddenly switching instru from 00:52:583 (1,2,3,4) - to vocals 00:54:701 (1,2,3,4) - is bit strange to play
01:02:112 (4,1) - I guess two 1/2 slider would be nice here than to play 01:02:465 - as release. Also it can keep consistency on clicking on those related vocals on 01:08:112 - 02:10:230 - 02:15:701 -
01:53:289 (4,5,6,7) - maybe this four 1/1 circles should be on 01:51:877 - how the previous verse did on 00:44:112 (1,2,3,4) -
02:03:877 - 02:04:230 - same suggestion as my first one

Emilia

00:10:230 (1,2,3,4) - maybe don't switch to other variety of beat patterns yet, same as 00:07:407 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:08:818 (1,2,3,4) - still works since 00:11:642 (1,2,3,4,5) - will do the role for somewhat another variation on related sound on 00:13:054 - again
00:55:407 (3) - idk about this sliderpath, consider to change it with more simple one since this is the only one you did such an uncommon slidershape.
01:15:171 (1,2,3) - maybe doing the same rhythm pattern with 01:17:995 (1,2,3) - would be nice as for consistency, or vise-versa.

Pentori

neci countdown
02:13:583 (3) - maybe trim to 1/2 like how 01:05:818 (4) - was
02:29:289 (3) - AiMod didn't pointed this but well :thinking:

Extra

00:18:701 (1,2) - not rly a problem but im triggered with those circle starter when your higher diff starts with slider on this part lmao
01:03:524 (4,5) - consider to do this at least a kickslider as not that really audible on 01:03:612 - imo
01:06:171 (5) - as a opinion this would be nice if sth like big jump with 01:06:171 - 01:06:348 - as the audio itself having strong clap, same as other related parts.
SPOILER
02:39:524 (7) - two kicks? there's 1/4 drum i guess
02:57:524 (3,5) - NC
03:02:465 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - maaaayyybee better to do the same with previous part 02:56:818 - as it has pretty same intensity on those 1/2 rhythms.

Adolescence

00:38:465 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - well as we can hear that it's pretty intense than previous one, maybe nerf those 00:27:171 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - or scaling up those octagon would be nice to see imo
00:51:877 (1,1,1) - idk remove NC there as you didn't on Extra
01:06:171 - 01:06:348 - same opinion as extra
01:08:024 - maybe there should be some note cuz of01:02:377 (6) - 01:03:789 (7) - 01:05:201 (8) - and maybe 01:09:083 (5) - can be deleted
02:08:289 (4,5,6) - i know it's getting intense than before but it's too way overdone imo xd
02:16:848 (5) - you can delete this i guess
02:20:112 - very subjective but ye about NC patterns,
02:50:642 (1,2,3) - same way with extra would be nice
03:02:465 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - same as extra
02:56:819 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - vs 02:58:230 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - maybe this can cause inconsistency on NC

i wish this helped at least a bit
goodluck for us uwu

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2016-12-09T07:19:33+00:00

Akitoshi wrote:
m4m w
i update my diff when more mods are here and there there
and im bad modder pls no kill

General
ya no preview point fix
maybe can hitsound on early part 00:18:701 - like adding drum sample on every whites or idk xd Na it's fine like this, I like the faint sounds there!
Extra
00:18:701 (1,2) - not rly a problem but im triggered with those circle starter when your higher diff starts with slider on this part lmao it's fine, I like the way it is done
01:03:524 (4,5) - consider to do this at least a kickslider as not that really audible on 01:03:612 - imo Changed
01:06:171 (5) - as a opinion this would be nice if sth like big jump with 01:06:171 - 01:06:348 - as the audio itself having strong clap, same as other related parts. Changed
SPOILER
02:39:524 (7) - two kicks? there's 1/4 drum i guess Changed
02:57:524 (3,5) - NC Changed
03:02:465 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - maaaayyybee better to do the same with previous part 02:56:818 - as it has pretty same intensity on those 1/2 rhythms. Nah it's fine now!
Adolescence
00:38:465 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - well as we can hear that it's pretty intense than previous one, maybe nerf those 00:27:171 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - or scaling up those octagon would be nice to see imo Changed
00:51:877 (1,1,1) - idk remove NC there as you didn't on Extra Changed
01:06:171 - 01:06:348 - same opinion as extra Changed
01:08:024 - maybe there should be some note cuz of01:02:377 (6) - 01:03:789 (7) - 01:05:201 (8) - and maybe 01:09:083 (5) - can be deleted Changed
02:08:289 (4,5,6) - i know it's getting intense than before but it's too way overdone imo xd Changed
02:16:848 (5) - you can delete this i guess Changed
02:20:112 - very subjective but ye about NC patterns, Changed
02:50:642 (1,2,3) - same way with extra would be nice Changed
03:02:465 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - same as extra Nah I like how it is right now
02:56:819 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - vs 02:58:230 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - maybe this can cause inconsistency on NC Changed
i wish this helped at least a bit
goodluck for us uwu

Basically changed everything, either as you said also added something else to make the changes work if I thought something was missing.
Big thanks, really!

Affirmation

2,543 posts

Joined March 2015

Affirmation 2016-12-09T08:11:17+00:00

Q

[Normal]
1.99 star lol
02:56:818 - delete greenline

[Adv]
00:07:407 (1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6761844 for flow
00:29:289 (3,4) - totally you didn't make jump, I think Just keeping DS should be better,
00:30:877 - add a beat.
01:02:465 - This part have strong rhythm, I think clickable note could be better in this.
02:50:642 - ~02:51:083 - delete Greeenline
02:58:759 (2,3) - swap rhythm for vocal

[Harder]
"Harder" means Not Hard? then make Hard diff.
00:55:407 (3) - looks bad to me,,, Make Just curved slider like 00:53:995 (5,6) - .

[Insane]
00:22:407 (4,1) - little bit overlapped, It could be unattractive, Just put away from 00:23:289 (3) - .
01:33:171 (4,5) - ctrl G for flow. This pattern looks Hard flow.
02:13:583 (3,4,5) - make same rhythm with 01:05:818 (4,5,6) - .
02:31:407 (1) - Just my suggestion, How about overlap for emphasize like this?
02:38:465 (1,2,1) - Ds looks similar, So players can be confused about reading, Juse stack could be better or make Big DS between 02:38:642 (2,1) -

[Extra]
00:20:818 (3) - ctrl G for big DS
00:47:642 (3,4) - don't overlap, looks really strange
00:51:876 (7,8,9) - slider for better reading
01:15:171 (7) - NC
02:42:701 (1,1,1,2,1,2) - Why they have too many NC
03:10:936 (5) - NC

GL

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2016-12-09T08:27:47+00:00

Neoskylove wrote:
Q

[Normal]
1.99 star lol xdd
02:56:818 - delete greenline Fix

[Extra]
00:20:818 (3) - ctrl G for big DS Nice idea! Fixed
00:47:642 (3,4) - don't overlap, looks really strange Wtf I made it normal again, it wasn't like that, must've moved it somehow during modding
00:51:876 (7,8,9) - slider for better reading Nah it's fine, I want those to be single notes.
01:15:171 (7) - NC Fix
02:42:701 (1,1,1,2,1,2) - Why they have too many NC Adjusted, yeah it is for asethetics but look good now I fixed it!
03:10:936 (5) - NCFix

GL

Thank you!!!
Also renamde diffs to make it right lol

O-Moei

O-Moei 2016-12-15T02:39:25+00:00

Hi !

Kyshiro's
00:56:112 - I still can hear sumthin like 00:53:995 (4) - there
02:03:877 - ^

02:35:642 (4) - NC ?
02:45:524 (5) - ^

02:50:642 - Won't map it here ?

The vocal "raaa" started from here, correct ? 02:58:759 - . How about switch 02:58:759 (2,3) - 's rhythm
(Example judged from 03:00:171 (3) - )

Pentori's
01:05:818 (4) - Try extend this to the next blue tick ? (Like 02:13:583 (3,4,5) - )

Adolescence
00:51:877 (7) - NC ?
01:59:642 (5) - ^

02:03:759 - Won't map it here ? (Like 00:55:995 (6,7) - )

02:19:584 (4,5) - Ctrl+G ?

02:39:701 (7) - Try lift it a bit more

02:50:642 (1,1,1) - I think Ctrl+G each of them is better, due with 02:51:171 (1) -

Good luck !

emilia

893 posts

Joined October 2012

emilia 2016-12-19T07:56:56+00:00

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WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2017-01-17T13:33:29+00:00

Considering scrapping last diff, need more opinions so if that's a good idea don't mod it if I asked you to, just tell me to scrap.

Sonnyc

7,753 posts

Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2017-01-17T14:05:15+00:00

Hard.
00:12:171 (5) - Whistle feels quite redundant here.
01:06:171 - 02:13:936 - Adding a clap will fit the song better.

Extra.
00:51:876 (7,8,9) - 01:59:641 (7,8,9) - Needs more difference in your spacing concept to indicate the rhythms properly.
01:14:465 (5,6) - Well personally the jump felt way too aggressive compared to the song.

Adolescence.
00:51:877 (7,8,9,1) - This is a 1/3 rhythm, and the spacing concept is the same with the 1/2 of 00:51:171 (1,2,3). This isn't indicating the rhythms properly.
01:59:642 (5,6,7) - ^
02:13:936 (5) - Missing clap.
02:28:054 (6,7,1) - In-game stack is broken. Deal this with manual stack.
02:29:289 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - Since the jumps of these patterns were way too much, the drums of 02:30:701 (1,2,3,4,5) weren't really being emphasized.
02:45:083 (5,6) - Hitsound should be changed.
02:56:819 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Uh a cross-screen jump out of nowhere.... It feels really weak to be supported considering the overall structure of the map. At least making this section less intensed to make some gradual intensity will make a little more sense.

Akali

639 posts

Joined November 2012

Akali 2017-01-17T15:51:47+00:00

Extra

Troche duzo omijasz 1/4, jak celowo to ok ale ja bym tego nie robil. Na Adolescence raczej mapujesz wszystkie 1/4, wiec jakbys usuwal tamtego diffa to bym jednak zrobil wiekszosc waznych 1/4 jakie sa do Extra

00:51:876 (7,8,9) - NC albo nawet NC spam (1,1,1) lepiej reading

01:04:936 (5,1) - bez sensu troche ignorowanie 1/4

01:07:936 - to samo, 1/4 slider?

01:15:171 - nie podoba mi sie ta przerwa, za duzo sie dzieje jak dla mnie

01:29:642 (2) - tak samo, 1/4 stack na tym? by sie spoko gralo

01:32:465 (2) - ^

01:59:641 (7,8,9) - jak wczesniej, jedno NC albo (1,1,1)

Design ok oprocz pikseli w blanketach czy cos, reszta diffow tez wyglada dobrze.

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2017-01-19T19:35:40+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Hard.
00:12:171 (5) - Whistle feels quite redundant here.
01:06:171 - 02:13:936 - Adding a clap will fit the song better.

Extra.
00:51:876 (7,8,9) - 01:59:641 (7,8,9) - Needs more difference in your spacing concept to indicate the rhythms properly.
01:14:465 (5,6) - Well personally the jump felt way too aggressive compared to the song.

Adolescence.
00:51:877 (7,8,9,1) - This is a 1/3 rhythm, and the spacing concept is the same with the 1/2 of 00:51:171 (1,2,3). This isn't indicating the rhythms properly.
01:59:642 (5,6,7) - ^
02:13:936 (5) - Missing clap.
02:28:054 (6,7,1) - In-game stack is broken. Deal this with manual stack.
02:29:289 (3,4,1,2,3,4) - Since the jumps of these patterns were way too much, the drums of 02:30:701 (1,2,3,4,5) weren't really being emphasized.
02:45:083 (5,6) - Hitsound should be changed.
02:56:819 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Uh a cross-screen jump out of nowhere.... It feels really weak to be supported considering the overall structure of the map. At least making this section less intensed to make some gradual intensity will make a little more sense.

Changed stuff in extra and almost everything in Adolescence.
I don't agree with the last point, imo it's the perfect spot for increased spacing also keeping it as long as the vocal intensity is there slowing down by moving to sliders instead of jumps when it tones down! Makes sense iny my head and with the rest of the map.

Thank you for mod

As for you Akali, I have no clue what you mean with 1/4 stuff because you tell me to put a 1/4 where I already have one?
Fixed the NC you mentioned, not removing the pause I like it

Thanks!!!

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2017-01-26T14:43:48+00:00

Toned down last diff by 0.4 ~~
Was overdone.

Sebu

95 posts

Joined February 2014

Sebu 2017-01-26T15:04:16+00:00

couple thigns

2017-01-26 15:56 Sebu: i wish this was ctrl+g lol 01:30:701 (1,2,3) -
2017-01-26 15:57 WORSTPOLACKEU: hm
2017-01-26 15:57 WORSTPOLACKEU: that's not a bad idea
2017-01-26 15:57 WORSTPOLACKEU: but
2017-01-26 15:57 WORSTPOLACKEU: I made it like htis cause the tone of vocal goes back up
2017-01-26 15:57 WORSTPOLACKEU: so I put the note opposite flow
2017-01-26 15:58 Sebu: i guess
2017-01-26 15:58 Sebu: that makes sense
2017-01-26 15:58 Sebu: i still prefer to have most thing flow properly and only a few times change flow on those kinds of things
2017-01-26 15:58 Sebu: but if you prefer it like that its fine
2017-01-26 15:58 Sebu:

2017-01-26 15:59 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah I map a lot according to vocal
2017-01-26 15:59 WORSTPOLACKEU: like pitch tone
2017-01-26 15:59 WORSTPOLACKEU:

2017-01-26 15:59 WORSTPOLACKEU: when it goes down I put notes below
2017-01-26 15:59 WORSTPOLACKEU: and escalate when pitch goes up etc
2017-01-26 15:59 Sebu: like this one 02:14:995 (3) -
2017-01-26 15:59 WORSTPOLACKEU: not always but mostly
2017-01-26 15:59 Sebu: i understand
2017-01-26 15:59 Sebu: that one is really good
2017-01-26 15:59 Sebu: like, reallllllyy good
2017-01-26 16:00 WORSTPOLACKEU: yeah I made antiflow
2017-01-26 16:00 WORSTPOLACKEU: cause the vocal
2017-01-26 16:00 Sebu: should be a break here 02:24:348 -
2017-01-26 16:01 WORSTPOLACKEU: o
2017-01-26 16:01 WORSTPOLACKEU: inser tbrek
2017-01-26 16:01 WORSTPOLACKEU: nice spot
2017-01-26 16:01 WORSTPOLACKEU: dude

Nostalgic

597 posts

Joined January 2013

Nostalgic 2017-01-29T10:17:27+00:00

o/ m4m

Adolescence

my mod is mostly suggestions so feel free to ignore them if you don't feel like adopting them

00:07:407 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - It feels weird when you suddenly not mapping guitar
00:34:936 (6,7) - this should be a triples instead
01:13:759 (1,1,1,1) - nc spam
01:09:171 (5) - 1/4 slider?
01:12:348 (7) - slow slider that ends at 01:13:407 ?
01:31:759 (8) - NC cuz sv change
01:31:759 (8,1) - and btw why they look so similar? different sv and different instrument (drum/vocal).
01:33:701 (2,3) - triples?
01:36:877 (5,6,7,8) - stream works better here imo
01:59:877 (2,3) - should nc to differentiate the snapping difference
02:20:112 (7,8,1,2,1,2,1,2) - a few things here. 02:20:112 (7,8) - nc and keep the ds the same as the latter jumps. 02:20:642 (1,2,1,2) - why stack? It doesn't make sense when you didn't stack 02:21:701 (1,2) . SUGGESTION (stack all 2 at the same spot)
02:27:171 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - I don't quite get why the ds of 1, 2, 3 is different from 4, 5. 02:28:054 (6) - should be a jump instead of stacking beneath 5. Here's my suggestion (1, 3, 5 stack, 02:28:495 (7,1) - stack and form blanket with 02:28:054 (6) )
02:31:407 (5) - NC cuz it isn't a drum sound. I'd recommend deleting this note and move the spinner here
02:40:406 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - as the pich's going upward consider increasing the ds?
03:10:936 feels a bit awkward to end here
Sometimes I don't find myself quite understanding your use of 1/4 sliders and slider shapes but I guess it's something rather subjective.

Akitoshi's Normal

Disable widescreen support
00:51:877 (5) - NC
01:59:642 (5) - ^

Astarte

303 posts

Joined December 2014

Astarte 2017-01-29T21:23:33+00:00

my m4m part

Normal

00:23:642 (4,5) - why'd you break away from your consistency here? imo there isn't anything specifically strong or unique to make (5) clickable
01:28:583 (6) - the snare on this sliderend isn't that significant nor important as 01:29:112 - this vocal at red tick. players might click early since vocal stands out more. imo don't repeat (6) and place (1) at red tick
02:38:465 (2,3) - stacking would be a good idea instead, its much easier to read and play imo
02:57:348 - same as above, vocal here is high pitched and extremely loud, would be a better option to follow instead

Hard

00:52:142 - why'd you skip these drums? they're pretty significant and normal mapped them also.
00:56:112 - 00:56:465 - why not map these 2 notes? i guess you're following vocal but you didn't follow vocal 00:52:583 -
00:56:818 (1,2) - also why suddenly less intense here? the white ticks should be mapped imo
01:08:289 - no reason why you skip this vocal note isn't it? you mapped that note in the other 2 kiais with a 1/2 slider and a circle
02:50:642 - yea why skip these too? they're pretty significant

Light Insane

01:12:348 (1,2,1) - can't read omg, nice <3 btw
01:54:171 (5) - doesn't have to be so close. it deserves a bit of spacing emphasis too

That's all. nice diff, probably overlaps are quite hard to read for a light insane, and some blankets are off like 01:15:524 (3,4) -

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2017-01-30T16:08:55+00:00

Nostalgic wrote:
o/ m4m

Adolescence

my mod is mostly suggestions so feel free to ignore them if you don't feel like adopting them
00:07:407 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - It feels weird when you suddenly not mapping guitar I like that part, I think I mapped it consistently only changing when the change occurs!
00:34:936 (6,7) - this should be a triples instead Smth else but not triple!
01:13:759 (1,1,1,1) - nc spam Yes
01:09:171 (5) - 1/4 slider?Nop
01:12:348 (7) - slow slider that ends at 01:13:407 ?Nop I like the stop even though vocal continues!
01:31:759 (8) - NC cuz sv change I don't even know why I had sv change there.
01:31:759 (8,1) - and btw why they look so similar? different sv and different instrument (drum/vocal).
01:33:701 (2,3) - triples? Kickslider
01:36:877 (5,6,7,8) - stream works better here imo Noooooo
01:59:877 (2,3) - should nc to differentiate the snapping difference You are correct
02:20:112 (7,8,1,2,1,2,1,2) - a few things here. 02:20:112 (7,8) - nc and keep the ds the same as the latter jumps. 02:20:642 (1,2,1,2) - why stack? It doesn't make sense when you didn't stack 02:21:701 (1,2) . SUGGESTION (stack all 2 at the same spot) One of the best corrections, yes indeed my thing was shit, I made something like you said but bit different!
02:27:171 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - I don't quite get why the ds of 1, 2, 3 is different from 4, 5. 02:28:054 (6) - should be a jump instead of stacking beneath 5. Here's my suggestion (1, 3, 5 stack, 02:28:495 (7,1) - stack and form blanket with 02:28:054 (6) )
02:31:407 (5) - NC cuz it isn't a drum sound. I'd recommend deleting this note and move the spinner here Noo I want that to be a note
02:40:406 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - as the pich's going upward consider increasing the ds? Tried but it looks awful so I stay with the star shape.
03:10:936 feels a bit awkward to end here I like that ending!
Sometimes I don't find myself quite understanding your use of 1/4 sliders and slider shapes but I guess it's something rather subjective.

Akitoshi's Normal
Disable widescreen support
00:51:877 (5) - NC
01:59:642 (5) - ^
I think akitoshi wants it like it is right now because of the consistency but I'll tell him to take a look and change in case he wants it changed.
GL

Thankss

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-01-30T16:25:37+00:00

moonlightleaf wrote:
[Normal]

lol, this long name , never mind ?

00:46:230 (5) - change a note will be better to play ,lol following drums here, some 1/2 isn't hurt as normal xd

01:42:701 (6) - ^ can ignore 01:42:877 this ,lol

01:48:348 (5) - ^

01:28:583 (6) - how about this shape and rhythm ? changed a bit
SPOILER

02:28:583 (1) - how about this ? current one is fine i guess
SPOILER

02:38:465 (2,3) - i perfer stack them yes

Removed green line from @Neoskylove
@Nostalgic nah I don't need single NC for just 1/3 rhythms, removed the widescreen support though

Astarte wrote:
my m4m part
Normal
00:23:642 (4,5) - why'd you break away from your consistency here? imo there isn't anything specifically strong or unique to make (5) clickable fixed
01:28:583 (6) - the snare on this sliderend isn't that significant nor important as 01:29:112 - this vocal at red tick. players might click early since vocal stands out more. imo don't repeat (6) and place (1) at red tick im following instruments there, I switched on vocals when the cymbals crash on 01:32:112 -
02:38:465 (2,3) - stacking would be a good idea instead, its much easier to read and play imo ye
02:57:348 - same as above, vocal here is high pitched and extremely loud, would be a better option to follow instead this is the most intense part on instruments to worth follow than the vocals.

Thanks all

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275,43,130230,2,0,B|237:36|237:36|168:41,1,103,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
122,51,130759,2,0,P|98:99|105:149,1,103,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,193,131289,1,8,0:0:0:0:
192,269,131642,6,0,L|184:352,2,51.5,2|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
222,226,132171,2,0,P|267:209|324:214,1,103,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
369,232,132701,1,8,0:0:0:0:
460,185,133054,2,0,B|462:119|462:119|436:72,1,103,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
404,53,133583,1,2,0:0:0:0:
302,37,133936,2,0,L|223:39,1,51.5,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
169,101,134465,6,0,L|90:103,2,51.5,6|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
216,122,134995,2,0,B|222:156|222:156|215:188|215:188|224:226,1,103,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
235,272,135524,1,8,0:0:0:0:
316,335,135877,2,0,P|376:336|418:310,1,103,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
443,273,136407,2,0,L|434:151,1,103,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
430,118,136936,1,8,0:0:0:0:
338,70,137289,6,0,L|332:-16,2,51.5,2|0|8,1:2|0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
318,118,137818,2,0,P|269:140|196:135,1,103,2|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
170,126,138348,1,8,1:2:0:0:
67,135,138701,2,0,B|52:186|52:186|70:254,1,103,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
89,279,139230,2,0,L|206:276,1,103,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
243,276,139759,1,10,0:0:0:0:
339,241,140112,6,0,L|404:240,1,51.5,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
430,145,140642,2,0,L|495:144,1,51.5,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
439,50,141171,2,0,L|374:51,1,51.5,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,146,141701,2,0,L|283:147,1,51.5,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
194,161,142230,2,0,P|185:198|209:276,1,103,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,340,142936,5,2,0:0:0:0:
39,121,148583,6,0,B|140:99|140:168|249:132,1,206,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
324,75,149642,2,0,L|387:76,1,51.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
426,83,149995,2,0,P|444:134|433:190,1,103,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
378,266,150701,2,0,L|315:265,1,51.5,2|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
289,301,151054,2,0,L|226:300,1,51.5,2|0,1:2|1:0,0:0:0:0:
185,300,151407,5,4,1:2:0:0:
185,300,154230,6,0,B|102:330|109:270|0:306,2,154.5,4|2|10,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
269,240,155642,2,0,P|297:176|255:84,2,154.5,2|2|10,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
194,168,157054,6,0,L|27:176,2,154.5,4|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
299,164,158465,1,6,0:0:0:0:
299,164,158642,2,0,P|344:138|417:138,1,103,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
444,141,159171,2,0,L|434:275,1,103,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
383,332,159877,6,0,B|329:342|329:342|265:326,1,103,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,305,160407,2,0,P|191:289|120:296,1,103,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
35,271,161112,2,0,L|44:155,1,103,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
117,96,161818,1,2,0:0:0:0:
216,71,162171,2,0,L|221:15,2,51.5,2|10|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
215,122,162701,6,0,P|249:168|293:181,1,103,10|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
394,185,163407,1,10,0:0:0:0:
465,258,163759,2,0,L|460:325,1,51.5,10|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
442,357,164112,2,0,P|391:364|334:348,1,103,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
260,287,164818,1,10,0:0:0:0:
222,191,165171,1,0,0:0:0:0:
260,95,165524,5,4,0:0:0:0:
122,153,170642,6,0,L|116:86,2,51.5,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
134,202,171171,6,0,P|198:212|250:192,1,103,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
279,176,171701,1,2,0:0:0:0:
359,111,172054,2,0,L|353:33,2,51.5,0|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
395,147,172583,2,0,L|404:278,1,103,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
401,301,173112,2,0,B|352:319|352:319|286:312,1,103,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
250,305,173642,1,10,0:0:0:0:
171,238,173995,6,0,L|177:160,2,51.5,2|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
152,286,174524,2,0,P|98:298|32:272,1,103,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
10,255,175054,1,8,0:0:0:0:
10,151,175407,2,0,P|39:104|104:76,1,103,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
131,78,175936,2,0,B|183:88|183:88|253:76,1,103,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
282,66,176465,1,8,0:0:0:0:
384,68,176818,6,0,P|409:128|398:184,1,103,2|2,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
362,258,177524,1,2,1:2:0:0:
264,291,177877,1,2,1:2:0:0:
211,202,178230,2,0,L|83:208,1,103,2|2,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
5,213,178936,1,2,1:2:0:0:
50,120,179289,2,0,L|52:63,1,51.5,2|2,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
87,32,179642,6,0,P|139:29|185:49,1,103,4|2,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
249,131,180348,1,2,1:2:0:0:
249,234,180701,1,2,1:2:0:0:
186,315,181054,2,0,L|132:316,2,51.5,2|2|2,1:2|0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
231,338,181583,2,0,L|365:336,1,103,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
385,337,182112,1,10,0:0:0:0:
455,262,182465,6,0,P|464:208|442:140,1,103,6|8,0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
399,73,183171,1,0,0:0:0:0:
303,33,183524,1,8,1:2:0:0:
208,73,183877,2,0,L|215:196,1,103,2|8,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
218,279,184583,1,0,0:0:0:0:
139,346,184936,1,10,1:2:0:0:
62,276,185289,6,0,L|4:281,2,51.5,2|0|8,1:2|0:0|1:2,0:0:0:0:
102,243,185818,2,0,P|113:193|82:119,1,103,2|0,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
63,106,186348,1,8,1:2:0:0:
135,33,186701,2,0,B|187:28|187:28|247:34,1,103,6|10,1:2|1:2,0:0:0:0:
332,73,187407,2,0,L|335:130,1,51.5,10|2,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
371,160,187759,2,0,L|374:217,1,51.5,10|2,1:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
410,247,188112,5,4,1:2:0:0:
256,192,188289,12,4,190936,0:0:0:0:

emilia

893 posts

Joined October 2012

emilia 2017-01-31T12:22:46+00:00

Astarte wrote:
Light Insane
01:12:348 (1,2,1) - can't read omg, nice <3 btw ty, but i like this too much to change it ;;
01:54:171 (5) - doesn't have to be so close. it deserves a bit of spacing emphasis too true, but am keeping it for the blanket atm
That's all. nice diff, probably overlaps are quite hard to read for a light insane, and some blankets are off like 01:15:524 (3,4) - im wayyyy too lazy xd
GL

Kirisakiii

186 posts

Joined February 2015

Kirisakiii 2017-01-31T14:35:16+00:00

Honeyworkss <3
Late M4M sorry qvq

This map is pretty good already so I don’t know if I can do this or not lol
Still new at modding so bear with me ;w;

General

Should Kagamine Len even be in the tags?
Just a heads up that some diffs have widescreen support and some don’t

Kyshiro’s Hard

00:20:465 (2,3,4) – not important (?) but you don’t really use stacks like this a lot so it just seems kind of inconsistent to me
00:49:759 (1,2,3) - rhythm is different from 01:57:524 (1,2,3,4) and I think one of them should follow the other for consistency but meh, not important
00:51:171 (3) – having the end of the slider closer isn’t really pretty imo
00:51:877 – I really feel like the guitar here should be emphasized, same thing with 01:59:642; the rest of the difficulties have them as well but meh, your call
01:34:936 (3) – having this slider curved outward as well for a symmetrical look?
01:41:995 (1) – ^
01:51:524 (3) – you can move this a little more to the right for a more evenly spaced triangular
00:51:171 (3) – nc here? Follows nc pattern as well
01:53:289 (4) – there should be a nc here, following 00:45:524 (1)
02:22:230 (5,1) – swap nc?
02:31:407 (3) – nc
02:45:524 (5) - ^

Emilia's Light Insane

00:03:701 (3) – you can polish the end of the slider a bit more to follow 00:04:230 (4)
01:08:642 (3) - ^
00:27:171 (1) – end of the slider can be curved a taddd bit more xd
00:28:583 (1,2,3) – how about something like this?
00:41:642 (2) – rotate this by -13? With selection centre as origin ofc
00:58:230 (5) – having this nicely wrapped around 00:57:877 (4) would be nice imo but offscreennn orz
01:12:348 (1,2,1), 03:08:112 (1,2) – lmaoo my eyes I really like it but you sure about this? xd
01:14:465 (3) – rotate this by 13? //selection centre
01:33:171 (5) – polish curve
02:12:171 (3) – lower the end of the slider a bit
02:29:642 (5) - ^
02:46:936 (1) – have this around 02:46:583 (5)?

Really suck at modding lol so hope this helps ;w;
Gl on your map!

Naxess

Nomination Assessment Team

390 posts

Joined March 2016

Naxess 2017-02-01T16:55:20+00:00

Greetings!

[General]

02:50:642 - Some lines are not used in all difficulties, so might as well try to clean that up.
Only the last, Kyshiro's and Emilia's difficulties are mapped from the beginning. The rest skip over that whole part. Perhaps the other difficulties should also map this? Looks rather inconsistent as is.

[Kyshiro's Hard]
00:53:995 (4) - This rhythm is not the same as 00:52:936 (2) - in the song, so it wouldn't really make sense to have them be the same in the map. (4) has it's stress placed on 00:53:995 - and 00:54:348 - in this case. Same goes for 02:01:759 (4) - .
01:01:583 (3,4) - Might work better if the clickables were placed on the vocals instead of switching to the snare. Could always try something like this otherwise.
01:07:230 (3,1,2) - This part feels very drawn out in comparison to what the song is suggesting. I'd suggest you turn 01:08:112 (1) - into a 1/2 and circle.
01:11:465 - 03:07:230 - This beat is emphasized in the song, but there's nothing distinct here in the map. Try this, for example.
01:53:995 (6) - Might be able to turn this into a 1/2 to reflect the vocal here and emphasize the finish a bit more.
02:36:701 (7,1) - 02:38:995 (1,2) - 02:42:171 (2,3) - There's this one concern I have for this map, and it's the usage of stacking for both 1/2 and 1/1 gaps. This is a Hard difficulty, and players in this difficulty range are not very used to playing anti-jumps and the like, meaning it will likely get very confusing when used in this way.

[Emilia's Light Insane]
00:15:524 (4) - Consider turning this into two circles in order to place stress on 00:15:701 - , and provide resolution to the second one through the spinner in accordance with the song. Feels pretty strange to hold all the way from the beginning of the slider to the end of the spinner, skipping that beat in the process.

[Pentori's Insane]
02:29:289 (3) - Might want to snap that slider end.

[Adolescence]
00:04:936 (2,3) - In comparison to 00:02:112 (3,4) - and 00:03:524 (3,4) - , this sound is reflected with really small spacing. tbh just move 00:05:112 (3) - closer to 00:05:642 (4) - in consistency with 00:03:701 (4,5) - as well.
00:15:701 - This is really different from the other edges of this slider, so could always just make it a separate circle or something to reflect that. Would also make the initiation of the stream much more accentuated.
00:22:583 (4) - These sliders look really cramped and barely fits the sound played here in my opinion. Personally I'd have just made it some simple slider, bringing some space between it and the following note, or two circles, as way of emphasis.
00:25:583 (6) - Similarly here and at 01:31:759 (8) - , refrain from putting high curves on short sliders. You may argue that it brings some effect to the gameplay, but don't forget that slider leniency is still a thing and will basically bring the same effect anyway. There also aren't a lot of them so they kind of stand out unnecessarily atm.
00:26:289 - In order to cover the vocals and piano here you could alternatively try something like this.
00:28:583 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is really not reflecting what the song is doing here. Clearly parts like 00:28:583 (1,3,5,7) - are stronger than the others, right? Could at least try manipulating the spacing a bit in accordance to this. Try making some kind of concept out of it and do the same at 00:59:642 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - in consistency.
00:39:701 (9,1,2) - The impact of (1) is stronger than (2) in this case, so try making the spacing between (9) and (1) noticeable further than that of (1) and (2) to reflect this properly.
01:12:348 (7) - Could probably NC this to differentiate 01:12:348 (7,8,9) - from the rest of this combo, and also in pattern of the way 01:10:936 (1) - was.
01:51:877 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Refrain from using circle spam patterns if some of the notes are more emphasized than others. You lose a lot of the emphasis the song is suggesting in the process and makes the map rather monotonous as a result. Same goes for 02:07:407 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and the other ones I mentioned earlier, you get the idea. Could also try some pattern with 1/4 sliders if circles get too repetitive, for example.
02:40:318 (3) - Will probably just be better if piano is followed completely here. No need to make a triple here, as it's kind of similar to 02:41:818 (5,6,7) -
02:56:819 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I understand that this part may be the most prominent part, but this is still a bit excessive. This part sounds almost like 03:02:465 - anyway and they're not even similar in this regard. If you're going to go overboard at least do it consistently, lead it in well and make it somewhat diverse. Same applies to this part in Extra.
Speaking of Extra, add a spinner at 02:31:495 - like you did in this diff for consistency.

Sadly this song is already ranked in the same gamemode, so I won't be nominating it, but it seems pretty nice overall. Good luck!

emilia

893 posts

Joined October 2012

emilia 2017-02-03T15:55:52+00:00

Naxess wrote:
[Emilia's Light Insane]
00:15:524 (4) - Consider turning this into two circles in order to place stress on 00:15:701 - , and provide resolution to the second one through the spinner in accordance with the song. Feels pretty strange to hold all the way from the beginning of the slider to the end of the spinner, skipping that beat in the process.

yep, i mapped it deliberately to be this way, cuz i thought the effect of the slider leading into a spinner was cool. will think about this

Kirisakiii wrote:
Emilia's Light Insane
00:03:701 (3) – you can polish the end of the slider a bit more to follow 00:04:230 (4)
01:08:642 (3) - ^
00:27:171 (1) – end of the slider can be curved a taddd bit more xd
00:28:583 (1,2,3) – how about something like this?
00:41:642 (2) – rotate this by -13? With selection centre as origin ofc
00:58:230 (5) – having this nicely wrapped around 00:57:877 (4) would be nice imo but offscreennn orz
01:12:348 (1,2,1), 03:08:112 (1,2) – lmaoo my eyes I really like it but you sure about this? xd

01:14:465 (3) – rotate this by 13? //selection centre
01:33:171 (5) – polish curve
02:12:171 (3) – lower the end of the slider a bit
02:29:642 (5) - ^
02:46:936 (1) – have this around 02:46:583 (5)?

eek i think i'll be rejecting everything aesthetic based, sorry!!!

also will be keeping the heart slider because im not sure how to make it nicer atm

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2017-02-03T16:19:29+00:00

Naxess wrote:
Greetings!

[Pentori's Insane]
[*]02:29:289 (3) - Might want to snap that slider end.

[Adolescence]
[*]00:04:936 (2,3) - In comparison to 00:02:112 (3,4) - and 00:03:524 (3,4) - , this sound is reflected with really small spacing. tbh just move 00:05:112 (3) - closer to 00:05:642 (4) - in consistency with 00:03:701 (4,5) - as well. Fix
[*]00:15:701 - This is really different from the other edges of this slider, so could always just make it a separate circle or something to reflect that. Would also make the initiation of the stream much more accentuated. Fix
[*]00:22:583 (4) - These sliders look really cramped and barely fits the sound played here in my opinion. Personally I'd have just made it some simple slider, bringing some space between it and the following note, or two circles, as way of emphasis. Fix
[*]00:25:583 (6) - Similarly here and at 01:31:759 (8) - , refrain from putting high curves on short sliders. You may argue that it brings some effect to the gameplay, but don't forget that slider leniency is still a thing and will basically bring the same effect anyway. There also aren't a lot of them so they kind of stand out unnecessarily atm. I understand your concern yet I think the visual aspect gives more to it than just a random little curved slider that will feel very out of place, it's basically the same thing just wouldn't look good.
[*]00:26:289 - In order to cover the vocals and piano here you could alternatively try something like this Fix
[*]00:28:583 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is really not reflecting what the song is doing here. Clearly parts like 00:28:583 (1,3,5,7) - are stronger than the others, right? Could at least try manipulating the spacing a bit in accordance to this. Try making some kind of concept out of it and do the same at 00:59:642 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - in consistency. Fix
[*]00:39:701 (9,1,2) - The impact of (1) is stronger than (2) in this case, so try making the spacing between (9) and (1) noticeable further than that of (1) and (2) to reflect this properly. Fix
[*]01:12:348 (7) - Could probably NC this to differentiate 01:12:348 (7,8,9) - from the rest of this combo, and also in pattern of the way 01:10:936 (1) - was. Fix
[*]01:51:877 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Refrain from using circle spam patterns if some of the notes are more emphasized than others. You lose a lot of the emphasis the song is suggesting in the process and makes the map rather monotonous as a result. Same goes for 02:07:407 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - and the other ones I mentioned earlier, you get the idea. Could also try some pattern with 1/4 sliders if circles get too repetitive, for example. I like this pattern because the vocals go kinda "back n forth" so I made a pattern reflecting that.
[*]02:40:318 (3) - Will probably just be better if piano is followed completely here. No need to make a triple here, as it's kind of similar to 02:41:818 (5,6,7) - Fix
[*]02:56:819 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I understand that this part may be the most prominent part, but this is still a bit excessive. This part sounds almost like 03:02:465 - anyway and they're not even similar in this regard. If you're going to go overboard at least do it consistently, lead it in well and make it somewhat diverse. Same applies to this part in Extra. Chaned a bit but I think this is fine now, I still want those jumps at first 8 beats!
[*]Speaking of Extra, add a spinner at 02:31:495 - like you did in this diff for consistency.[/list] Fix

Sadly this song is already ranked in the same gamemode, so I won't be nominating it, but it seems pretty nice overall. Good luck!

Thanks!!!!

About the mapping from the beginning, this is done for variety, I've seen this in different sets and both places seemed good to map from so I mapped two different myself and told GDers to choose their own!

Also changed some stuff in Kyshiro's diff as per his choice, the gaps and 1/2 are not a problem but changed some rhythms you mentioned!

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2017-02-12T16:50:57+00:00

Naxess wrote:
Sadly this song is already ranked in the same gamemode, so I won't be nominating it, but it seems pretty nice overall. Good luck!

This reason is really beyond me, why would you not move forward a map if it's fine, just because it's already ranked once? If everyone thought like you, would you expect the mapper to simply delete the map?

[General]

Some sections seem not to have any hitsounds, where I think some could fit. 00:18:701 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Mainly.. please check for other parts like this too. 01:59:642 (1) - . I feel like the 1/3 parts in general are underemphasized.
Why does the 1/3 Part have lower hitsounds? I mean.. it's a neat idea but I think 50% will also be fine. 40 seems a bit too silent.

[Normal]

00:18:701 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Hmm, this has no hitsounds but some could actually fit here, no?
02:22:936 (1) - A finish seems more appropriate cuz the song is stronger.
02:34:230 (1) - The wave looks slightly off to me, mind improving it?

Good map, but I think this is not suitable as lowest diff. It's quite 1/2 heavy and well, I definitely would be very overwhelmed by trying to play this as a beginner. I honestly suggest adding a lower diff than, an Easy actually. I would really use 1/2 sparingly there.. Nerfing this diff isn't an option imo, otherwise Normal > Hard will be unsuitable.

[Kyshiro's Hard]

00:18:701 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Hitsounds?? I will put that in general now haha
00:52:054 - Leaving this blank seems a bit odd, why didn't you emphasize that part?
00:50:465 (2,3) - Blanket
01:53:289 (4) - NC?

Good job kshrozoorrrr plz hab mercy

[Emilia's Light Insane]

U got some inconsistencies, which make me feel slightly weird while playing it. 00:08:112 (3,4) - hgih spacing svs.00:09:524 (3,4) - low spacing 00:12:348 (3,4) - vs. low yeah, you see what I mean. Could you make this consistent?

00:57:877 (4,5) - I feel like a blanket would really be neat here! Just a suggestion though.
00:56:112 (1,2) - This sounds odd but I'm not sure about the snap.. hm I will recheck that. I actually just saw how pentori handled it (in his diff). He's put a repeater. I think that fits better.
00:58:936 (1,2) - Increase spacing or people will probably misread it as 1/3.
01:06:171 (4,5) - I hear 1/2 here, the 1/4 sounds really offputting... it doesn't really play nice imo. Better to stick to 2 circles, beacuse I've misread 01:06:701 (1,2) - after, speeding up too fast cause this is 1/2 again.
01:08:112 (1,3) - Lol that's just aesthetical but curve meet straight slider, imo they don't compliment each other that well.
01:24:171 (3,4) - Why would you map it like this when you can hear a triplet.. again, something really offputting.
01:38:465 (3) - Slight spacing error, looks too small and feels too small too.
01:59:642 (1) - Lacking emphasis due to missing hitsounds
03:09:171 (2) - I'm not sure how it is like when teh repeaters are covered by another slider entirely, but I'd say this is unrankable, or if not, it's not really safe at all. I'd remove it to avoid further issues

Most issues are repeating, so please double check for repeating issues. (Speaking of kiai 02:13:936 (4,5) - )

I think the map is actually well mapped. However, the issues I pointed out are rather crucial to me, so it will really not hurt fixing those. (except the aesthetical things, if you really like those.. that's your call). Mostly speaking of the rhythm or spacing errors.

[Pentori's Insane]

00:49:759 (1,2) - The stack here really kills the movement, and doesn't feel too good. Unstack?
01:06:171 (5) - Add clap ? Sounds like it in the bg.
02:13:936 (4) - ^
02:20:112 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Omfg Is This PP Please Remove At Once, nah just kidding that was a cool pattern

Excellent job Pentori! Maybe HP 6 would make it a bit more interesting?

[Extra]

00:18:701 (1,2,3,4) - This lead in was a bit weird to me. Mind having 2 sliders first, and then have circles? It feels a bit easier to come into the map.
00:32:642 (1) - Hmm.. this shape is kind of not complimented by anything. . I don't have an actual suggestion but it looks a bit weird haha
00:33:083 - I hear a triplet here, but not 2 1/4 sliders, like you mapped them. And for something I don't hear properly, it's pretty damn emphasized. Please go over that part again!
00:40:583 (3,4,5,6,7) - The 1/4 don't exist again
00:52:583 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Hmm, I'm not a too big fan of this part. I think other diffs handled it better. Key for 1/3 is that it flows throughly and is gives the player a nice feel, I didn't quite get that here! Mainly because the rhythm was too "complicated" (i think sliders emphasize the calmity and the 1/3 flow in general better) and the spacing a bit too small. I think this could be better! You should check the other diffs, or call me again to help
01:03:524 - http://puu.sh/tZZlN/b62621c1af.jpg I feel like this is the rhythm, not 2 1/4 slider..
01:10:936 (1,3) - Dunno, that just came into my mind , maybe it's a bit funnier to play http://puu.sh/tZZvj/54cf7cbf83.jpg, optional tho
01:26:642 (2,3,4,5,6) - ?? where did you hear this rhythm haha, I won't point any further rhythm issues out, please go over the map accordingly and fix those as necessary
Please also watch out for already mentioned stuff, I'm sure it happens again sometime!
02:07:054 (1) - NC error?

The rest was good so far I think, I'll see again after rhythm is done!

[Adolescence]

00:40:407 (5,6,7,8) - Too overemhasized for my taste, I feel like having less is more here.
I will finish modding this one after you've applied the things above, just so it's less overwhelming.

Stay in touch with me~

emilia

893 posts

Joined October 2012

emilia 2017-02-17T09:47:03+00:00

Irreversible wrote:
Naxess wrote:
Sadly this song is already ranked in the same gamemode, so I won't be nominating it, but it seems pretty nice overall. Good luck!
This reason is really beyond me, why would you not move forward a map if it's fine, just because it's already ranked once? If everyone thought like you, would you expect the mapper to simply delete the map? ngl i giggled at this

[Emilia's Light Insane]

U got some inconsistencies, which make me feel slightly weird while playing it. 00:08:112 (3,4) - hgih spacing svs.00:09:524 (3,4) - low spacing 00:12:348 (3,4) - vs. low yeah, you see what I mean. Could you make this consistent? i dont know, i like distance variability across my map, and thats partially why i chose not to turn on distance snap while mapping it in a way which was comfortable instead. i changed the distance a little, but it doesnt really matter to me that they're different

00:57:877 (4,5) - I feel like a blanket would really be neat here! Just a suggestion though. eh i've thought about it, don't look good to me
00:56:112 (1,2) - This sounds odd but I'm not sure about the snap.. hm I will recheck that. I actually just saw how pentori handled it (in his diff). He's put a repeater. I think that fits better. im p sure the most accurate snap would be 1/2 slider on 1/4 divisor, and i see no rhythmic difference to what i mapped and a repeater
00:58:936 (1,2) - Increase spacing or people will probably misread it as 1/3. not sure if its good now but i did
01:06:171 (4,5) - I hear 1/2 here, the 1/4 sounds really offputting... it doesn't really play nice imo. Better to stick to 2 circles, beacuse I've misread 01:06:701 (1,2) - after, speeding up too fast cause this is 1/2 again. yep ok deciding to change this
01:08:112 (1,3) - Lol that's just aesthetical but curve meet straight slider, imo they don't compliment each other that well. i guess i like it, theres also this 02:16:407 (3,1) -
01:24:171 (3,4) - Why would you map it like this when you can hear a triplet.. again, something really offputting. maybe i'll consider this. i mainly mapped it this way bc it added some form of rhythmic variability and that the drum i mapped to was a lot louder than the one i skipped over
01:38:465 (3) - Slight spacing error, looks too small and feels too small too. heck nice catch
01:59:642 (1) - Lacking emphasis due to missing hitsounds smh worstpolackeu more like worsthitsoundhelper ((
03:09:171 (2) - I'm not sure how it is like when teh repeaters are covered by another slider entirely, but I'd say this is unrankable, or if not, it's not really safe at all. I'd remove it to avoid further issues fixed all heart slider sections to be more readable

Most issues are repeating, so please double check for repeating issues. (Speaking of kiai 02:13:936 (4,5) - ) this i fixed, but i doubt there are other issues in my map since i've dispelled the one about "strict consistent distancing" and aesthetic stuff. would be good if you could recheck it after this round of modding!!

I think the map is actually well mapped. However, the issues I pointed out are rather crucial to me, so it will really not hurt fixing those. (except the aesthetical things, if you really like those.. that's your call). Mostly speaking of the rhythm or spacing errors. one of the more effective mods in a long while

sedf

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Pentori

1,157 posts

Joined November 2015

Pentori 2017-02-17T10:49:29+00:00

fixed basically everything important

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Tags:Honeyworks Vocaloid Kagamine Len Akitoshi Kyshiro Emilia Pentori
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this was so long ago it hurts to look at ; w;

WORSTPOLACKEU

511 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

WORSTPOLACKEU 2017-02-18T19:32:20+00:00

Fixed easy diff!

Mappers updated except Kyshiro atm and I changed most of your suggestions and looked through the rhythm, the ones I didn't change are the ones I feel are justified by either vocals or flow!
I can go into more detail but I basically did everything u asked for in extra difficulty except the shapes! I like those shapes

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-02-21T12:29:29+00:00

applied all, thank you irre!

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