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Tags:yanaginagi ryo Today Is A Beautiful Day Aoharu Weekly Young Jump cut version HB24 Sotarks Fenza -Yuzuriha
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302,181,65723,6,0,P|291:119|294:62,1,104.65000199604,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,249,66062,1,8,0:0:0:0:
433,77,66231,2,0,P|433:129|422:180,1,104.65000199604,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
361,29,66570,1,0,1:0:0:0:
361,272,66740,1,8,0:0:0:0:
361,126,66909,1,0,1:0:0:0:
362,358,67079,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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165,286,68011,2,0,L|279:277,1,104.65000199604,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
383,218,68265,1,4,3:0:0:0:
248,103,68435,22,0,B|218:190|298:198|266:285,1,182,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
320,143,68943,1,0,0:0:0:0:
194,243,69113,1,0,1:0:0:0:
248,84,69282,1,2,3:0:0:0:
278,271,69452,2,0,L|286:370,1,91,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
393,195,69791,6,0,L|385:294,1,91,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
184,158,70130,2,0,L|192:257,1,91,0|0,1:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
193,266,70384,1,0,3:0:0:0:
195,283,70469,1,0,1:0:0:0:
172,77,70638,1,0,0:0:0:0:
108,221,70808,1,0,1:0:0:0:
228,150,70977,2,0,L|165:161,1,45.5,0|0,3:0|3:0,3:0:0:0:
281,211,71147,38,0,L|385:195,1,91,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
491,96,71486,1,0,1:0:0:0:
479,257,71655,1,2,3:0:0:0:
407,60,71825,2,0,P|419:125|438:173,1,91,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
488,272,72164,1,0,1:0:0:0:
377,213,72333,38,0,P|313:207|276:206,1,91,2|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
147,287,72672,2,0,P|211:281|248:280,1,91,0|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
172,140,73011,1,8,3:0:0:0:
177,175,73095,1,8,3:0:0:0:
183,211,73180,1,4,3:0:0:0:
231,67,73350,1,4,3:3:0:0:
101,151,73519,2,0,P|169:138|252:176,1,136.5,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
298,217,73858,54,0,P|363:207|400:166,1,104.65000199604,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
437,26,74197,1,8,0:0:0:0:
468,180,74367,6,0,B|460:225|460:225|422:286,1,104.65000199604,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
225,177,74706,1,0,3:0:0:0:
265,167,74790,1,0,3:0:0:0:
306,172,74875,1,8,0:0:0:0:
346,186,74960,1,8,0:0:0:0:
387,195,75044,1,4,3:0:0:0:
428,193,75129,1,4,3:0:0:0:
468,180,75214,54,0,P|483:125|374:82,1,156.975002994061,4|0,1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
371,86,75553,1,8,0:0:0:0:
316,276,75723,6,0,L|304:154,1,104.65000199604,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
261,107,75977,1,8,3:3:0:0:
261,107,76062,2,0,L|203:97,1,52.3250009980202,8|0,3:3|3:3,3:3:0:0:
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210,209,76401,1,8,3:3:0:0:
210,209,76486,1,8,0:0:0:0:
210,209,76570,54,0,L|220:318,1,104.65000199604,4|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
222,343,76825,1,0,1:0:0:0:
222,343,76909,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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339,234,77587,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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213,105,77841,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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316,211,79113,2,0,L|368:214,1,52.3250009980202,8|8,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
438,131,79282,54,0,L|458:352,1,209.300003992081,4|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,90,79791,2,0,B|184:158|184:158|195:231|195:231|180:311,1,209.300003992081,4|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,118,80299,2,0,P|368:59|279:94,1,209.300003992081,4|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
182,295,80808,2,0,P|107:336|116:252,1,209.300003992081,4|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,191,81316,2,0,P|319:195|364:222,1,104.65000199604,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
493,304,81655,2,0,P|430:308|385:335,1,104.65000199604,8|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
437,39,81994,6,0,B|470:92|470:92|432:238,1,209.300003992081,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
389,108,82502,2,0,P|317:92|274:97,1,104.65000199604,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
177,159,82841,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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225,232,83350,37,0,1:0:0:0:
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183,306,83858,1,8,3:0:0:0:
183,306,83943,1,8,3:0:0:0:
183,306,84028,2,0,P|235:316|253:317,1,52.3250009980202,4|4,3:0|3:0,3:0:0:0:
320,269,84197,2,0,P|345:272|371:278,1,52.3250009980202,4|4,3:0|3:0,3:0:0:0:
442,342,84367,2,0,P|462:288|456:178,1,156.975002994061,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
405,124,84706,5,4,1:0:0:0:
256,192,84791,12,0,86231,0:0:0:0:
136,93,87418,22,0,L|195:98,1,54.5999983337403,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
271,149,87757,2,0,L|325:144,1,54.5999983337403,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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444,141,88350,1,0,3:0:0:0:
447,165,88435,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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270,122,89113,1,0,1:0:0:0:
226,219,89282,2,0,P|170:228|162:228,1,54.5999983337403,2|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
107,152,89621,1,2,3:0:0:0:
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123,72,90130,37,0,1:0:0:0:

all fixed exept that double pattern 1/4 'cause why not x)
Nao Tomori
changed hitsound volumes a bit.

enjoy
Syns_old_1
AH! GL :D
Topic Starter
zhuxiaoyan

HeyItsSins wrote:

AH! GL :D
thx :D
Sotarks
waiting now an other year for the 2nd bn xd
Weriko
make me bn so i instant rank kek
Ashton
okay! I looked at the map, each diff. and found them to be very nice.


Here is the heart you worked hard for!


~ Qualified ~
Sotarks
omg you are so funny canadianbaka
Seijiro
1) you could have left at least the background SB. I know lyrics were messed up, but the other effects were really cool :/
2) isn't there a better BG for Sotarks' diff. No matter how I see the song, it can't fit well with a happy BG like that (and loli Miku too, wut), lol
Topic Starter
zhuxiaoyan

MrSergio wrote:

1) you could have left at least the background SB. I know lyrics were messed up, but the other effects were really cool :/
2) isn't there a better BG for Sotarks' diff. No matter how I see the song, it can't fit well with a happy BG like that (and loli Miku too, wut), lol
I can put the sb back i probably have it somewhere, idk about sotarks xd
Nao Tomori
low key don't have any of the backgrounds woops
Sotarks
dafuq why is this still not rank
Topic Starter
zhuxiaoyan
umm
Metaku

Sotarks wrote:

dafuq why is this still not rank
ztrot
POSTING TO RESERVE RIGHTS TO QUALIFY THIS SET!

I went over all the diffs while the final map in the set is imo the worst kind of mapping no offense there is nothing breaking the RC so i would love to push this one through..... I just need to find out if the one a day limit applies to me.
Edit: yup it does
Shiirn
Standards have changed a lot, ztrot. Maps are no longer fine if they're "rankable" anymore. They need to fit perceptions and be more consistent and clean now. That's Just How It Is Now and while I agree it's kind of horseshit, it also means that maps that are kind of crap (like this one) have a harder time just bustling right on through the process on faith and begorrah alone.
Nao Tomori
d
Ashton

MrSergio wrote:

1) you could have left at least the background SB. I know lyrics were messed up, but the other effects were really cool :/
2) isn't there a better BG for Sotarks' diff. No matter how I see the song, it can't fit well with a happy BG like that (and loli Miku too, wut), lol

Hello!

I heard you were offending miku, miku fits with everything. Miku is senpai, Miku-chan. Anata wa baka desu!
Ashton
shit double post.
Sotarks
wtf just happened here ? XD
Cryptic
TL;DR: Popping for spacing on the top three diffs, the normal, and the set not being quite ready in my eyes.
Modding top down because I really really don't want to mod the normal so I'm procrastinating.

[General]
  1. The red line at the beginning of the kiai is unnecessary, in fact it makes the map too early. Why is it there?
[Sotarks' Extra]
  1. I'd change your 1,2,4 combo colors to not blend with the BG quite as much.
  2. 00:37:105 (4,5,1,2,3) - This seems like its not getting enough spacing compare to the quiter/clamer intro parts, maybe a slight buff would be in order?
  3. 00:38:630 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Let's break this down.
    1. The main issue with this pattern is how you're interpreting it. I can't quite get it so I'm going to mention how I think it should be interpreted and then how you'd go about that, and then I'll mod what you have now in regards to what I think you're attempting to do.
    2. In my opinion, the best way to approach this pattern is based on pitch, it starts at the peak and slowly works its way down before reaching the slider, so 00:38:630 (1,2,1,2) - would be the largest, 00:39:308 (1,2,1,2) - would be smaller, 00:39:986 (1,2,1,2) - would be even smaller, 00:40:664 (1,2,1,2) - would be the smallest. Another point to note with this interpretation is that each 1,2 in the group should be the same size since 00:38:630 (1,2) - and 00:38:969 (1,2) - are the same pitch.
    3. With how you have it now, you're getting spacing here 00:40:664 (1,2,1,2) - from literally nothing in the song, at all. The drums keep intensity, the pitch goes downward, the vocals die down, theres no reason for a buff. The only reasoning I could figure would be her vocals, but even those aren't intense, like I said. I think it'd make more sense to go with my suggestion above just for fluidity, because if you are following her vocals it shouldn't be 1/2 spam anyway.
  4. 00:41:681 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - Now this one, let's break it down.
    1. I'm not quite sure where the spacing concept is coming from here, either. I get that it's a build up, and it plays kind of like a build up, but the spacing changes themselves and when they get bigger seem very arbitrary. Everything until you get to here 00:43:715 (1,2,3,4) - seems more or less like the same pattern. Maybe buff the 2nd and 3rd group of 4 to better transition into 00:43:715 (1,2,3,4) - and make the buildup feel more consistent? Additionally, make sure that the largest jumps on the map (00:45:410 (1,2,1,2) - ) don't exceed the previously mentioned part above (the 00:38:630 (1,2,1,2) - part) since those are more intense (more punctual, more pronounced, louder drums, etc). Having them around the same peak-distances would be the best method IMO.
    2. In general, the NC's here are also super screwed, NC on the vocals/guitar, not on whatever it is now. 00:42:020 (3) - These.
    3. 00:45:749 (1,2,1,2,3,4) - I don't get this pattern at all. Spacing wise I like the concept but execution it plays kind of like a clunky back and forth with no real direction. Try moving the 3,4 elsewhere and I think that'll easily fix your problem. (I can go more into this if needed but theres no need for a paragraph IMO.)
  5. 00:50:834 (1,2,1,2) - The guitar here is muffled and not accompanied by any drums or vocals, but is given similar spacing to the more intense sections that we saw earlier. I think a spacing nerf here would be nice, but the concept itself is fine.
  6. Okay so the kiai is mostly fine though there is a key issue that you can choose. Key issue one would be that 00:52:164 (1) - to 01:07:079 (7) - is slightly under-spaced and that 01:07:757 (1) - to 01:13:519 (7) - is fine, the other option would be vice versa. Basically, my reasoning here is that the second part is much less intense, theres less stress on vocals, guitar is quieter, less drum emphasis, etc. However, as it's mapped now, it's given approximately the same emphasis which is a big no-no from an interpretation stand point. Honestly, how you fix this is up to you (buff the beginning or nerf that second part), but I highly recommend doing one of the two.
  7. 01:29:791 (5,1) - Nerf the spacing here, it's a bit crazy for not really landing on anything particular.
  8. You should try using the entire map more, not just the center :p
[HB's Extra]
  1. 00:26:427 (1) - Having this so far away from the 00:26:088 (1,2) - at such an obtuse angle makes this pattern a lot more intense than it needs to be according to the music. Move this slider up and left a bit to be closer to 00:26:088 (1,2) - and to just in general flow a bit smoother.
  2. 00:38:630 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I recommend you just read the paragraph of text I wrote about Sotark's diff here, because it applies to yours too. The patterning here is somewhat random and makes no sense, not to mention the flow change at 00:39:308 (1,2,1,2) - here makes no sense at all. You go from an up-down motion to suddenly a triangular motion in the blink of an eye. I'm not really sure why but it doesn't fit the song and feels jarring.
[Yuzuriha's Insane]
  1. 00:14:223 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The spacing here is way too large, it's literally one of the calmest parts of the song and it's a fairly dense rhythm, you don't need large spacing. At the very least, make the pattern smaller than 00:25:071 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - which is more intense.
  2. 00:44:732 (5,6,7,8) - Where'd the weird 6>7>8 flow come from? It's kind of out of left field, wouldn't a more triangular/zig-zag approach like before work better?
  3. 00:58:943 (1,2,3,4,5) - What rhythm are you following here? It seems like you aren't following vocals or drums.
[Normal]
  • In my opinion, based on the quality of the Easy and the Hard, I'd suggest you remap the Normal - just because it's not up to standard of the rest of the set. The main issues are the aesthetics are pretty clunky and lacking in comparison to the other low-diffs, and the rhythm varies in some weird spots, however, if you refuse to remap this, at least chance/reconsider the points below.
  1. 01:13:858 (1,2,3) - Rhythm here is weird since a prominent vocal lands on the slider end of 2 and the next prominent vocal that lands on 01:15:045 - is completely ignore while you've been mostly following vocals in this map.
  2. 01:16:570 (1,2,3) - Same problem here.
  3. 01:17:926 (1,2,3) - Rhythm here is also messed up since each vocal hit is prominent and should be clickable, and the second vocal lands on 01:18:180 - rather than the slider end you currently have it placed on (on 1). Maybe consider doing a 3/4th repeat slider? That could solve part of the issue.
[Easy]
  1. 01:24:875 (1) - Why don't you just make the spinner end on that note that every other diff ends on?
Good luck, message me if you have any questions.
Topic Starter
zhuxiaoyan

Cryptic wrote:

TL;DR: Popping for spacing on the top three diffs, the normal, and the set not being quite ready in my eyes.
Modding top down because I really really don't want to mod the normal so I'm procrastinating.

[General]
  1. The red line at the beginning of the kiai is unnecessary, in fact it makes the map too early. Why is it there?
sounds a bit late to me w/o it

[Normal]
  • In my opinion, based on the quality of the Easy and the Hard, I'd suggest you remap the Normal - just because it's not up to standard of the rest of the set. The main issues are the aesthetics are pretty clunky and lacking in comparison to the other low-diffs, and the rhythm varies in some weird spots, however, if you refuse to remap this, at least chance/reconsider the points below. while i dont see a reason to remap and dont see anything wrong with the aesthetics even though they aren't the prettiest, i feel the need to remap because this diff doesnt represent well what i can accomplish through a normal diff. also, i never recieved a reason on why the aesthetics are not up to standard with the other diffs. also, i agree with you on the rhythms you stated, idk what i was doing there. this is an older map of mine and i would have taken that into consideration if i was mapping this now.
  1. 01:13:858 (1,2,3) - Rhythm here is weird since a prominent vocal lands on the slider end of 2 and the next prominent vocal that lands on 01:15:045 - is completely ignore while you've been mostly following vocals in this map.
  2. 01:16:570 (1,2,3) - Same problem here.
  3. 01:17:926 (1,2,3) - Rhythm here is also messed up since each vocal hit is prominent and should be clickable, and the second vocal lands on 01:18:180 - rather than the slider end you currently have it placed on (on 1). Maybe consider doing a 3/4th repeat slider? That could solve part of the issue.
[Easy]
  1. 01:24:875 (1) - Why don't you just make the spinner end on that note that every other diff ends on?
because i don't want to map the ending to make the easy simple, and ending the spinner on the snare like i id for the other diffs doesnt sound right, because i am not emphasizing
a very strong beat with the spinner ending on a snare


Good luck, message me if you have any questions.
I Must Decrease
pretty sure the major issue is the spread gap between normal and hard... there was a difficulty there before but it hasn't been replaced...
Topic Starter
zhuxiaoyan
i think i'm done with remapping normal
Topic Starter
zhuxiaoyan


Cryptic wrote:

TL;DR: Popping for spacing on the top three diffs, the normal, and the set not being quite ready in my eyes.
Modding top down because I really really don't want to mod the normal so I'm procrastinating.

[HB's Extra]
  1. 00:26:427 (1) - Having this so far away from the 00:26:088 (1,2) - at such an obtuse angle makes this pattern a lot more intense than it needs to be according to the music. Move this slider up and left a bit to be closer to 00:26:088 (1,2) - and to just in general flow a bit smoother. i moved it slightly but it already should have some emphasis due to it being a new vocal, and the angle plays fine
  2. 00:38:630 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I recommend you just read the paragraph of text I wrote about Sotark's diff here, because it applies to yours too. The patterning here is somewhat random and makes no sense, not to mention the flow change at 00:39:308 (1,2,1,2) - here makes no sense at all. You go from an up-down motion to suddenly a triangular motion in the blink of an eye. I'm not really sure why but it doesn't fit the song and feels jarring.
i adjusted the distances to reflect the new vocals a little better, and that triangle flow is pretty ok, it flows into the next object well


Good luck, message me if you have any questions.
-Yuzuriha
[Yuzuriha's Insane]
  1. 00:14:223 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The spacing here is way too large, it's literally one of the calmest parts of the song and it's a fairly dense rhythm, you don't need large spacing. At the very least, make the pattern smaller than 00:25:071 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - which is more intense.
  2. 00:44:732 (5,6,7,8) - Where'd the weird 6>7>8 flow come from? It's kind of out of left field, wouldn't a more triangular/zig-zag approach like before work better?
  3. 00:58:943 (1,2,3,4,5) - What rhythm are you following here? It seems like you aren't following vocals or drums.
All fix

thanks :)

Good luck, message me if you have any questions.[/quote]



https://1drv.ms/u/s!AkzZI14b6dtzgQyXEGRoYN-XU0p3
Sotarks
@cryptic fixed everything exept :
00:41:681 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - the building up i'm using here is fine and i want to keep my spacing here.
and that first part of my kiai i wanna keep aswell and think that the spacing and emphasis is fine imo

overall cryptic i think you have a pretty large subjective way about how spacing and emphasis should be, you're giving too much important to minor spacing and emphasis issues that doesn't even affect the game. as a player emphasis is when you have stress and you start feeling the music and it become harder,
changing pixel spacing in calm parts or what so ever won't affect anything, same for a jump section, keeping an itnense rythmn of 1/2 for 5sec is enough emphasized rythmn wise, don't need to have nazi spacing thingy.

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CircleSize:4.2
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[Events]
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Cryptic
Gap b/t normal and hard isn't unreasonably large, xr. But an advanced wouldn't be a terrible idea if the mapper had a high quality one.

@Sotarks: My interpretation of spacing is very methodical, albeit not objective. I can't really call it objective since the way I look at maps isn't the same way that you would look at a map, or a mapper would look at his own. With that being said, I would at least like to say that whenever I mod a map I look at every section and list every point with one goal in mine: "Interpreting the song as effectively as possible." So while player stress is something I take into account, actual spacing/aesthetics are equally important in regards to interpretation. I'm not a huge fan that you didn't fix the buildup or the 12,1234 part I mentioned, but it's fine. Also, thanks for getting the Lucio reference.

To the rest, I don't really have time to delve into this further, so Nao can rebubble if he wants. I heavily encourage the qualifying BN to consider spread between normal > hard and the red line at the beginning of the kiai, though. I'm fairly confident that red line is not needed.
Osuology
I know nobody asked but frick it I'm leaving my opinion so there's some community in this

As for sotark's diff's 00:41:681 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4) - I think it's completely fine. The drummer is building up in the song to build up tension so that the chorus releases tension. The map interprets this by putting quite large unnormal spacing for tension and relatively normal spacing for release. Though you could objectively interpret that it would be better to nerf this, it's also possible to objectively see this as a correct interpretation. It all depends on what Sotarks wanted to do with his diff, and distance isn't so important in this case, I feel.

As for spread gap inbetween normal and hard, it's not terrible and it's probably fine to rank, but it would be desirable to have something in between. Normal has very consistent 1/2 focus, and hard has a little bit of 1/4, perhaps slightly much? Creating that gap.
Seijiro
just one of the many sessions of little modding I did in #modhelp

filthy #modhelp logs
21:14 MrSergio: FROST, 01:20:977 - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
21:14 Zare: starts at around 300 circles
21:14 MrSergio: on Hard
21:14 Xexxar: ?
21:14 frostwich: sergio that is a hitsound
21:14 Squigly: please rank my map ; ; ' ; ; ; ;; ; ; ;
21:15 MrSergio: what's that dumb hitnormal placed on a slider tick for
21:15 MrSergio: well, duh
21:15 MrSergio: why
21:15 Xexxar: oh
21:15 Xexxar: dumb slider tick ya
21:15 MrSergio: why not another object instead of that
21:15 MrSergio: if it's such a strong beat
21:15 frostwich: i guess i will remove
21:15 MrSergio: and for how many times I "slightly" modded this in chat I deserve 2 kd xd
21:16 frostwich: its ur choice
21:16 frostwich: i didnt ask
21:16 frostwich: ;(
21:16 MrSergio: ;(
21:17 MrSergio: is the sb really dead
21:17 frostwich: i have it somewhere
21:17 ouranhshc: ;(
21:19 MrSergio: I mean, lyrics were screwed but bg effects were cool
21:19 MrSergio: the Hard's intro should have a slightly slower SV and DS
21:20 MrSergio: 00:32:528 (2,3,4) - why isn't this similar to 00:31:850 (1) - . If you start the combo on vocals I expect it to be on vocals for the most part xd
21:20 MrSergio: and that's one of the reason this diff ruins the spread
21:20 Zare: slower SV AND lower DS?
21:20 Zare: i dont even know the map and that seems like much
21:21 MrSergio: hey, I didn't specify how much
21:21 MrSergio: ah, wai,t only SV*
21:21 MrSergio: if you slow that down DS slows down too, lmao
21:22 MrSergio: 00:56:570 (2,3) - maybe remove repeat from 2, and change completely 3 into circles or sliders, just not that pattern with repeats since it follows nothing xd
21:22 Bonsai: >a red mod instead of a red mod-response
21:22 MrSergio: and why is this diff flat... you keep using the same SV for the entire map indiscriminately... 01:08:435 - zzz, reduce here too a bit and remove that kiai perhaps
21:24 MrSergio: 01:13:858 - re-put kiai here if you want
21:24 MrSergio: 01:27:418 - last part could be a bit calmer too, considering it's a fade out
21:25 Voli: hi
21:25 Antares-: h i
21:25 MrSergio: bye
21:25 MrSergio: time for dinner
21:25 MrSergio: the Normal looked somehow good in fact of note density, but I might need to give it a second look
21:25 Bonsai: bon apetit
Sotarks
dude this god bubbled before the rule just get a t1 bn to qualify this hoyl shit
Illyasviel
Did he quit w?
Nao Tomori
he died
Sotarks
is this real life ?
Topic Starter
zhuxiaoyan

Sotarks wrote:

is this real life ?
yes
Starset
wow i almost forgot about dis xd
Osuology

Sotarks wrote:

is this real life ?
or is it just fantasy, caught in a landslide to escape from reality...
Sotarks

Osuology wrote:

Sotarks wrote:

is this real life ?
or is it just fantasy, caught in a landslide to escape from reality...
Open you eyes and seeeeeeeeee
LowAccuracySS

Sotarks wrote:

Open you eyes and seeeeeeeeee
IM JUST A POOR BOY
I NEED NO SYMPATHY
Nikakis
Can you even tell me how Hatsune Miku matches to a supercell's song? lol. Change the bg please, it's cringy ,you can find plently of supercell's backgrounds at http://www.zerochan.net/
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