1. Abyss (7,52 stars, 2030 notes)

MrKOSIEJ wrote:

Coming from black vultures
That's actually not that bad
Imma write here my lil mod

[General]
Your map ain't that bad, i see you have "some" experience and you're familiar with some basic mapping stuff.
And you picked pretty tricky song to map.

[AiMOD]
Object's end is not snapped! 08:00:410 fixed
Object's end is not snapped! 08:00:677 fixed

[MOD]
The one major thing i'd improve in your map is aesthetics of the sliders.
Example 00:08:958 (1) - like this lil slider, it looks like you don't have time or idea for sth nice xd
other examples are all over the map, not everywhere tho, 00:15:572 (1) - this one i like lol I got your point, i'll look through and try to make some sliders prettier, tho those little slider is ok imo, dunno what else could fit there better

Other thing that you need to change is rhytm which is off here and there
Like here 00:08:604 (1,1) - wtf, use 1/6, make that reverse slider a normal slider and move everything to the right (forward in time). Also make this longer.
I'd say: do sth like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6963638 Got it, i'll rework first part a bit

00:37:580 - you should make a slider on that blank spot tried as you mentioned, but i don't think it fits there

00:53:722 (1) - start that spinner 00:53:486 - here fixed

01:12:147 (1,2,3,4) - that's not quite curved slider, looks like it should be curved don't think so, i'll leave it for now

Try to use objects that you already placed, like you could snap all those 01:13:080 (4,5,3,1) - i didn't do that because i thought it would be too repetitive, i'll think about it
01:28:280 (5,2) - and here with the slider tail k i'll try that

01:33:347 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - that's just boring i'll try to diversify this part

01:50:580 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - resnap to beats, should be equal it really sounds like 1\8 and if i change anything it's gonna be off rhythm, i dunno what to do with this
01:50:680 (2,1) - and snap those two fixed

07:46:740 (1,4) - snap or blanket fixed

[Summary]
Your map is quite playable, and there are no "hard" mistakes. You lack experience obviously but your going strong. And with fair attitide.
I skipped some of the things, because they're repetetive and over the whole map. You should look at my examples and look for more of them
Definitely try to go back and look at what you mapped in order to combine patterns, make them interesting and evolving or with direct correlation with other patterns. Good luck!

1. 00:04:352 (2,1,2) - since its still in the easy beginning of the map so differentiate the spacing a bit more here to make different rythm gaps more clear, doesnt have to be much something like this would read better for example
   https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7001336
2. 00:09:076 (2) - try to start this on the next white tick, right now you can see by the slidertickk the rythm this slider is following is pretty weird (slidertick 1/6 before the end so no leniency which can be frustrating for an easy part) you can hear a small change of the instrument your following on the white tick aswell and a bigger one if you listen to the background gospel. to fill the rythm there are a number of ways 2x return 1/12 or single return 1/6 or single return 1/12 + circle. But I'd go for something easy since its still the easy section of the song
3. 00:13:092 (2) - snap to prev blue tick, sounds better with the drum and you have an even rythm increase between 00:11:911 (1,2,3,1) - (3/16 4/16 5/16 gaps so optimal polarity for this weird part)
4. 00:21:517 (4) - so I saw you look for slider shapes, usually 'random shapes' is fine as is but like here you could add another thing to the slider to match the music better for example:
   
   basicly you follow the background music in your slider (the wiggles are where the guitar shreds a bit and the turns are where the orgal switches of intensity) no need to change but it might come in handy for later maps or if your ever stuck on a shape
5. 00:28:860 (1) - end 1/16 earlier like you did for prev similar (basicly your slidertick is the biggest guideline for irregular stuff like this if you have one like here 1/16 before the snap something is wrong 99% of the time)
6. 00:31:281 (4) - snap to the next downbeat, strongest sound there and better sliderticks feedback
7. 00:37:246 (2) - end on white tick instead since the sound is there + same lenght sliders are always better for slower parts
8. 00:37:954 (3) - 1/16 earlier for better polarity for this and the next 2 notes and the sound is there
9. 00:38:427 (5) - end on prev white tick, better for hold sound since the extend sound stops there and you ditch the slidertick issue
10. 00:41:793 (1) - 1/8 prev
11. 00:42:974 (2) - sounds more like 1/8 then 1/16 the start
12. 00:45:513 (3) - 1/16 snap (polarity between (2,3,4)
13. 00:46:281 (6) - sound starts on 1/8 here + added bonus of polarity between 00:45:809 (4,5,6) -
14. 00:52:128 (2,3) - differentiate this a bit more visualy from 00:52:541 (4,5) - or put an NC on 00:52:364 (3) - for the rythm shift
15. 00:53:486 (1) - why not end on the next downbeat where the orgal stops fits better imo since you still have an extended sound for a few beat now
16. 01:06:147 (1) - 3/4 timing signature for the red timing point here
17. 01:12:547 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - rythm is kinda bad here but might be because of the wrong signature. So basicly the song does 4 times the same rythm with the guitar only slightly increasing in pitch everytime, right now your slider placement is bit too random to represent that since the places where the music changes is on the downbeat so make sure these are clickable. right now 01:14:813 (4) - has the downbeat on its tail which is bad since thats where the rythm shifts. Try out sometihng like this rythm for example
    
    and here how that sounds with the music
18. 01:15:480 (3,2) - these kind of easily avoidable overlaps make the map look a bit messy, try to avoid them if possible it'll clean it up a bit also could improve this flow here 01:16:013 (2,3) - a bit while doing it
19. 01:31:747 (1,2,3,4,1) - this is kinda something to make the map itself look more aestheticly pleasing: since 01:31:747 (1,1) - represent relatively the same sound why not just copy/past the curve instead of manualy making a new one that is a bit more curvy. Also you could do a really cool mirror pattern here but its just a bit off with the new slider. This mirror thingy is what im speaking (long slider just there for showing mirror line):
    
    
    you could rearrenge it a bit so the sliders are mirrored for example. All small stuff I know but its that kind of stuff that in the end will make the map look more professional and I see you do it in a lot of places like visual stacking but there are still some improvements that can be made like this
20. 01:35:480 (3,4,1,2) - kinda as ^ visually its not that appealing atm, try playing around with visual distance between objects/intentional good overlaps so it looks a bit better
21. 01:36:547 (1,2,3) - don't forget to silence the ends of stuff like these
22. 01:40:413 (4) - would place this a bit more up like at 176/136 ish, the anti jump into huge jumps is a bit too much since you switch from flow to snapping playablitiy wise with a rather awkard angle atm
23. 01:50:580 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - hmm I think people expect these to all be the same rythm so an even rythm would fit better here imo, maybe try with 1/16 snap something like this
    
    at 100% it sounds alright
24. 01:54:347 (1,6) - why not also use a repeat at (6) here? its the same in the music so imo it represents it better these were similar
25. 01:59:428 (4,5,6) - doesnt really flow that well, because of the sliderleniency here this will play like linear flow with awkward stops in between, could place 01:59:782 (6) - at 464/228 for example to creat better flow and still have a good leadin to the next combo
26. 02:03:561 (1,2,1) - same as above really bad lead into the slider, could try to control+g the slider as a possible solution
27. 02:11:357 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - so this is where the drums really take over, you could do something with this like increase spacing/slightly more difficult turns/... something to differentiate these from the rest since this is the only part that has these intense drums
28. 02:15:845 (5) - pretty important downbeat here since its the intro to an intenser part, would be better if the ending was clickable here
29. 02:19:506 (2,3) - 02:19:743 (4,1) - skipping some really powerfull drums here in between these, pretty audible while playing so I'd consider mapping these
30. 02:23:168 (5,6,7) - differentiate this more by NCing 5 or visual ds wise, kinda looks like 1/1s atm since its the same visual spacing and still in the same combo
31. 02:23:640 (3) - 02:23:640 (3) - would either split this up into 2 2x returns or change this into a 2x return and 4 circles, having all the returns during this section be the same lenght woud benefit alot for playability
32. 02:27:420 (1,2,3,4,5) - really confusing here, 02:27:774 (2,3) - vs 02:28:128 (4,5) - making it look llike this is the same rythm atm visually. I'd keep it with stacking te 1/1 and having a jump on the 1/2s
33. 02:49:624 (1) - an NC for readability couldnt hurt here
34. 02:51:042 (9) - NC here and since the guitar does a cool shred here you could make this into a 1/2 if you want
35. 02:54:585 (4) - end wold be better off being clickable here like prev similar pattern
36. 02:56:002 (5,6) - control+g would be cool here so you switch direction when the music shifts in intensity
37. 02:58:128 (1,2,3,4,1) - similar like prev pattern about the missing beats
38. 03:13:719 (1,2,3,4,5) - like prev mentioned about visual ds vs rythm shifts
39. 03:57:184 (1) - not the best sliderhape here could be improved
40. 05:24:092 (1,2) - control + g would makes this alot easier to read while still having that hold feeling
41. 06:18:388 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why the ds increase here? don't really hear anything special and the drum sound more intense at 06:17:856 (1,2,3,4) - to me (cool stream section btw!)
42. 06:18:919 (1) - snap to here just on the downbeat, no need for that 1/16 gap since later on everyting sounds a little off aswell
43. 06:48:652 (1) - strongest drums in the entire song, could use some more ds spacing to resprent that perhaps in this section. Also you use a lot of returns here which makes the rythm a lot less dense, it'd be cool if there more circles here for a denser rythm to represent these powerful drums more
44. 07:19:460 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - you can hear the increase of intensity here, try using the 1/8s here since its only 120ish bpm

Wishkey wrote:

Heyo! cool map

General
* 01:06:147 (1) - and 05:57:662 (1) - enable both kiai timings on the red and green timing points (unrankable issue) but it seems you can just delete the green timings points here since they serve no purpose atm and it fixes the issue fixed
*also I see hitsounds are still wip but you already muted some stuff so make sure to put the muted ends on a soft-hitnormal (prob planning that but mentioning just in case) will do
*having kiai only in the very beginning for such a long song is a bit too minus for this song, try to add some later aswell since I see your planning to add a storyboard aswell that would prob go good with kiai. Stuff like your preview point at 05:57:662 (1) - for example you could kiai that since its the insane part of the map yep, added a bit more kiai
*slow part needs work still concerning snapping/optimal polarity (basicly equal rhythm gaps between a set of 3) tryd to explain a bit underneath but check back at 25% mostly, it might not be noticable now but with hitsounds you can hear the offtiming better so if your not sure of the snapping put a loud clap on it and if it sounds off adjust abit

Abyss

1. 00:04:352 (2,1,2) - since its still in the easy beginning of the map so differentiate the spacing a bit more here to make different rythm gaps more clear, doesnt have to be much something like this would read better for example yep, fixed
   https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7001336
2. 00:09:076 (2) - try to start this on the next white tick, right now you can see by the slidertickk the rythm this slider is following is pretty weird (slidertick 1/6 before the end so no leniency which can be frustrating for an easy part) you can hear a small change of the instrument your following on the white tick aswell and a bigger one if you listen to the background gospel. to fill the rythm there are a number of ways 2x return 1/12 or single return 1/6 or single return 1/12 + circle. But I'd go for something easy since its still the easy section of the song dunno i actually dont think this works here, slider is following background gospel and doing this pretty good as for me
3. 00:13:092 (2) - snap to prev blue tick, sounds better with the drum and you have an even rythm increase between 00:11:911 (1,2,3,1) - (3/16 4/16 5/16 gaps so optimal polarity for this weird part) done, i believe
4. 00:21:517 (4) - so I saw you look for slider shapes, usually 'random shapes' is fine as is but like here you could add another thing to the slider to match the music better for example:
   
   basicly you follow the background music in your slider (the wiggles are where the guitar shreds a bit and the turns are where the orgal switches of intensity) no need to change but it might come in handy for later maps or if your ever stuck on a shape yep thanks, i'll try to make sliders a bit prettier
5. 00:28:860 (1) - end 1/16 earlier like you did for prev similar (basicly your slidertick is the biggest guideline for irregular stuff like this if you have one like here 1/16 before the snap something is wrong 99% of the time) fixed
6. 00:31:281 (4) - snap to the next downbeat, strongest sound there and better sliderticks feedback done
7. 00:37:246 (2) - end on white tick instead since the sound is there + same lenght sliders are always better for slower parts done
8. 00:37:954 (3) - 1/16 earlier for better polarity for this and the next 2 notes and the sound is there fixed
9. 00:38:427 (5) - end on prev white tick, better for hold sound since the extend sound stops there and you ditch the slidertick issue agreed, done
10. 00:41:793 (1) - 1/8 prev done
11. 00:42:974 (2) - sounds more like 1/8 then 1/16 the start moved backward but in 1\16
12. 00:45:513 (3) - 1/16 snap (polarity between (2,3,4) done something, probably wrong tho lol
13. 00:46:281 (6) - sound starts on 1/8 here + added bonus of polarity between 00:45:809 (4,5,6) - fixed
14. 00:52:128 (2,3) - differentiate this a bit more visualy from 00:52:541 (4,5) - or put an NC on 00:52:364 (3) - for the rythm shift done
15. 00:53:486 (1) - why not end on the next downbeat where the orgal stops fits better imo since you still have an extended sound for a few beat now yep, done
16. 01:06:147 (1) - 3/4 timing signature for the red timing point here fixed
17. 01:12:547 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - rythm is kinda bad here but might be because of the wrong signature. So basicly the song does 4 times the same rythm with the guitar only slightly increasing in pitch everytime, right now your slider placement is bit too random to represent that since the places where the music changes is on the downbeat so make sure these are clickable. right now 01:14:813 (4) - has the downbeat on its tail which is bad since thats where the rythm shifts. Try out sometihng like this rythm for example
    
    and here how that sounds with the music got your point, i'll rework this part
18. 01:15:480 (3,2) - these kind of easily avoidable overlaps make the map look a bit messy, try to avoid them if possible it'll clean it up a bit also could improve this flow here 01:16:013 (2,3) - a bit while doing it okay, i'll hunt them down ***
19. 01:31:747 (1,2,3,4,1) - this is kinda something to make the map itself look more aestheticly pleasing: since 01:31:747 (1,1) - represent relatively the same sound why not just copy/past the curve instead of manualy making a new one that is a bit more curvy. Also you could do a really cool mirror pattern here but its just a bit off with the new slider. This mirror thingy is what im speaking (long slider just there for showing mirror line):
    
    
    you could rearrenge it a bit so the sliders are mirrored for example. All small stuff I know but its that kind of stuff that in the end will make the map look more professional and I see you do it in a lot of places like visual stacking but there are still some improvements that can be made like this yeah, got it, remapped it a bit
20. 01:35:480 (3,4,1,2) - kinda as ^ visually its not that appealing atm, try playing around with visual distance between objects/intentional good overlaps so it looks a bit better will be fixed, missed that one
21. 01:36:547 (1,2,3) - don't forget to silence the ends of stuff like these fixed
22. 01:40:413 (4) - would place this a bit more up like at 176/136 ish, the anti jump into huge jumps is a bit too much since you switch from flow to snapping playablitiy wise with a rather awkard angle atm done, also reduced ds for dis triangles a bit
23. 01:50:580 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - hmm I think people expect these to all be the same rythm so an even rythm would fit better here imo, maybe try with 1/16 snap something like this
    
    at 100% it sounds alright done (thought about this for a long time lol)
24. 01:54:347 (1,6) - why not also use a repeat at (6) here? its the same in the music so imo it represents it better these were similar redone
25. 01:59:428 (4,5,6) - doesnt really flow that well, because of the sliderleniency here this will play like linear flow with awkward stops in between, could place 01:59:782 (6) - at 464/228 for example to creat better flow and still have a good leadin to the next combo remapped section
26. 02:03:561 (1,2,1) - same as above really bad lead into the slider, could try to control+g the slider as a possible solution remapped section
27. 02:11:357 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - so this is where the drums really take over, you could do something with this like increase spacing/slightly more difficult turns/... something to differentiate these from the rest since this is the only part that has these intense drums well, didn't wanted to because it's already pretty much spaced but i'll figure something out
28. 02:15:845 (5) - pretty important downbeat here since its the intro to an intenser part, would be better if the ending was clickable here done
29. 02:19:506 (2,3) - 02:19:743 (4,1) - skipping some really powerfull drums here in between these, pretty audible while playing so I'd consider mapping these did something
30. 02:23:168 (5,6,7) - differentiate this more by NCing 5 or visual ds wise, kinda looks like 1/1s atm since its the same visual spacing and still in the same combo done
31. 02:23:640 (3) - 02:23:640 (3) - would either split this up into 2 2x returns or change this into a 2x return and 4 circles, having all the returns during this section be the same lenght woud benefit alot for playability changed
32. 02:27:420 (1,2,3,4,5) - really confusing here, 02:27:774 (2,3) - vs 02:28:128 (4,5) - making it look llike this is the same rythm atm visually. I'd keep it with stacking te 1/1 and having a jump on the 1/2s i'll keep it for now cause it's ok for me
33. 02:49:624 (1) - an NC for readability couldnt hurt here yep
34. 02:51:042 (9) - NC here and since the guitar does a cool shred here you could make this into a 1/2 if you want done
35. 02:54:585 (4) - end wold be better off being clickable here like prev similar pattern fixed
36. 02:56:002 (5,6) - control+g would be cool here so you switch direction when the music shifts in intensity ye, that's interesting
37. 02:58:128 (1,2,3,4,1) - similar like prev pattern about the missing beats fixed
38. 03:13:719 (1,2,3,4,5) - like prev mentioned about visual ds vs rythm shifts same here i'll leave it for now
39. 03:57:184 (1) - not the best sliderhape here could be improved will do
40. 05:24:092 (1,2) - control + g would makes this alot easier to read while still having that hold feeling done
41. 06:18:388 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why the ds increase here? don't really hear anything special and the drum sound more intense at 06:17:856 (1,2,3,4) - to me (cool stream section btw!) mostly because of more like clappy sounds, i believe they sound intensier
42. 06:18:919 (1) - snap to here just on the downbeat, no need for that 1/16 gap since later on everyting sounds a little off aswell messed up timing a lil bit, fixed
43. 06:48:652 (1) - strongest drums in the entire song, could use some more ds spacing to resprent that perhaps in this section. Also you use a lot of returns here which makes the rythm a lot less dense, it'd be cool if there more circles here for a denser rythm to represent these powerful drums more will rework this part, now i actually feel it's pretty bad
44. 07:19:460 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - you can hear the increase of intensity here, try using the 1/8s here since its only 120ish bpm won't use 1\8 but i probably will make spacing even more bigger

Cool map, really liking the streams! in terms of structure and overal aesthetics it can still be improved but I hope this helped a bit with the core, GL with the map!