Mega NRG Man - Back on the Rocks [Taiko|Osu]

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ShirohaMyMommy
from my q
[General]
normal-hitfinish3.wav is currently unused in anywhere.
end kiais at 01:27:704 - lol it's currently making no sense at all.
[Extra]
00:14:051 (1,1) - any reason for this nc spam? I don' t think the nc for 00:14:244 (1) - is really necessary.
00:21:935 (1,2) - the distance is really small to 00:21:551 (9) - plus 00:22:224 (3) - is higher pitch, I'd move these circles to the left bottom of the 4 of stream after. it makes better in both pattern looking and play-wise so why not. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7339788
00:22:513 (1,2) - you could've followed the sound at both red tick, sliders end at the blue ticks are like you tried to overmap it in anyway. however this currently picks only the strong sound from the white ticks so this could be work as is, but I'm sure it's better to catch noticeable sounds.
01:01:743 (1) - whistle on body fits on the sound
the stream shapes you made are really messy like 00:30:974 (3,4,5,6,7) - wtf happened lol, most of them are at the places that they should've been mapped straight but you didn't. maybe catch me in-game for questions about this..
[Insane]
00:26:358 - I think you could've tried putting claps more, like on each white ticks because only whistles are kinda boring to listen, and quiet in playing.
00:38:858 - you didn't literally hitsounding, why.
can you taking a time to self-mod your hitsounds overall before getting mods maybe, it lacks quite obviously.
[Hard]
00:36:454 (6) - I don't really think this needed larger distance, just put it at x1.2? 00:37:993 (6) - this too as 1/4 slider but not triplet is kinda rare for the hard players.
decent diff!
[Normal]
00:14:051 (1) - I say no because the break after a spinner is not enough, shorten the spinner at 00:13:186 - then it'll be fine.
00:20:589 (1) - yea better avoid using multiple spacing in lower diffs.
01:07:704 (1) - I don't think finishes fit here, remove all from head, reverse, tail.
[Easy]
why claps everywhere lol maybe ask the owner of mapset or the mapper who made hard how to hitsounding.
00:15:204 (2) - I'd make this slider a 1/1 and then moving this to next tick, so you can add a circle at 00:15:204 - that the slider can follow the sound at 00:15:589 -
00:46:743 (2,1) - distance is messed up ._.
01:22:897 (2) - you should avoid circle overlapping hp bar especially in easier diffs.
xChorse

Delis wrote:

from my q

[Hard]
00:36:454 (6) - I don't really think this needed larger distance, just put it at x1.2? 00:37:993 (6) - this too as 1/4 slider but not triplet is kinda rare for the hard players. triplets would be too much strain for a hard diff, especially with dt. i can see it being unpredictable at first but it's not very hard to get used to as the rhythm is still pretty simple. the 1/4s are spaced more to be easier to read and to avoid clutter. they are all at 1.6 ds in kiais
decent diff!
no changes, thanks!
J1NX1337

Shmiklak wrote:

[general]
  1. 01:27:704 - kai should end here because last sound plays here. - Fixed this on my diff.
  2. may you tell me how is the car related to song? :V I don't really understand dude ꘠ᗝ꘠ - ...Ever heard of Initial D? lol
[Jinx's Insane Rocks!]
  1. 00:19:435 (1) - i suggest to add nc since sv was changed here ᕙ(■Ѡ■)ᕗ - ...But there is no SV change here? D: The slider just ends a quarter beat earlier. I don't see it very necessary to add an NC here.
  2. 00:36:935 (9,1) - i guess it will be really hard to get the circle after this 1/8 slider. i suggest to remove one repeat so it will be easier for playing - Eh, I think I'll keep it for now since I don't have trouble with it. It's an Insane anyway, it's supposed to be kinda difficult. If others report to have problems I might change it, though.
  3. oh damn, your kiai part was so cool, i thought all map will be great D: but again part between kiai times didn't delight me. - Ok, I don't see why though. I thought the kiai sections were the worst part of the map. lol
  4. 00:41:358 (6) - this is a bit off flow. i suggest to move it down. http://shmiklak.s-ul.eu/BvX1hyB4 - That would use linear flow which would flow worse. It would also somewhat break the upcoming triangle structure, so I don't see a strong enough reason to do this when it plays pretty much fine for me anyway. :/
  5. 00:42:512 (4,5,6) - i suggest this http://shmiklak.s-ul.eu/ocduRXMw - I don't really see any reason to change my pattern. Is there something wrong with it? I prefer mine anyway because of the back and forth flow which emphasizes vocals better here imo.
  6. 00:45:781 (4) - feels overdone for me - ? This jump emphasizes the vocal intensity just fine. lol
  7. 00:57:127 (1,2,3) - this is superoverdone imo - I don't think so. They emphasize the intensity of the vocals as well as the synths that kick in here. Also the relatively low BPM makes this jump not a problem at all.
    there is nothing to tell since everything repeats same problems - What problems? You seem to think that the map is overdone but I don't think you realise how lower BPM mapping can affect the use of spacing with songs like this. The more intense parts of the map still follow standard spacing emphasis theory as well, which leaves no part of the map feeling "overdone" compared to the others. Only, more time between hitting circles allows for larger jumps in return for proper intensity emphasis.
Your mod wasn't of much use to me but thanks anyway. lol

Delis wrote:

from my q
[General]
normal-hitfinish3.wav is currently unused in anywhere. - True, was planning to use it at some point but probably forgot to take it out when I decided not to.
end kiais at 01:27:704 - lol it's currently making no sense at all. - Fixed from previous mod.
[Insane]
00:26:358 - I think you could've tried putting claps more, like on each white ticks because only whistles are kinda boring to listen, and quiet in playing. - Maybe. I think it'll make it a bit convoluted though since I'll have to use quite a few samplesets to fit additional claps here. I'll think about it.
00:38:858 - you didn't literally hitsounding, why. - I don't see what I could emphasize here with hitsounds considering there is no snare in the song here and I only use whistles for synths and the chorus. I don't think I want to add some imaginary clap beat here for one thing. Maybe I'll look into it more later, though right now it doesn't seem like a very big problem and gives emphasis to the bridge section because of the snare kicking in.
can you taking a time to self-mod your hitsounds overall before getting mods maybe, it lacks quite obviously. - I spent thrice the amount of time hitsounding this than mapping it, and I don't find it very lacking in terms of hitsounding due to the reasoning above. That said, I might look into it a bit more to see if there's any simple way to improve the sections you mentioned without hitsounding to nonexistent instruments. lol
Thanks for modding~ :D

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Topic Starter
Haganenno

Delis wrote:

from my q gday lad
[General]
normal-hitfinish3.wav is currently unused in anywhere.
end kiais at 01:27:704 - lol it's currently making no sense at all. gonna clear both of these thanks
[Extra]
00:14:051 (1,1) - any reason for this nc spam? I don' t think the nc for 00:14:244 (1) - is really necessary. removed nc
00:21:935 (1,2) - the distance is really small to 00:21:551 (9) - plus 00:22:224 (3) - is higher pitch, I'd move these circles to the left bottom of the 4 of stream after. it makes better in both pattern looking and play-wise so why not. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7339788 agreed
00:22:513 (1,2) - you could've followed the sound at both red tick, sliders end at the blue ticks are like you tried to overmap it in anyway. however this currently picks only the strong sound from the white ticks so this could be work as is, but I'm sure it's better to catch noticeable sounds. eeh not too fun and Im consistent at expressing these more interesting sounds so I find it fine?
01:01:743 (1) - whistle on body fits on the sound dont have any sliderwhistle sounds in the mapset but what the heck why not
the stream shapes you made are really messy like 00:30:974 (3,4,5,6,7) - wtf happened lol, most of them are at the places that they should've been mapped straight but you didn't. maybe catch me in-game for questions about this.. agreed. Keeping the curves in the next stanza doe
Thanks for mod, short but helpful.
squirrelpascals

Delis wrote:

from my q

[Normal]
00:14:051 (1) - I say no because the break after a spinner is not enough, shorten the spinner at 00:13:186 - then it'll be fine. I disagree, I feel like 2 beats is enough for the pace of the rest of the map, plus it makes more sense to end this on the white tick
00:20:589 (1) - yea better avoid using multiple spacing in lower diffs. There's no multiple spacing here. This slider is just put to the side
01:07:704 (1) - I don't think finishes fit here, remove all from head, reverse, tail. The hitsounds follow the intensity of the vocals throughout the entire kiai. Removing these hitsounds would make it unfitting from the rest of the map
Sorry no change, thanks for the mod though :)
Topic Starter
Haganenno
Sorry, I applied most of the stuff Delis pointed out but I accidentally closed my post which contained the answer to his mod. As I said, I applied most of what he said.
Monarch

Delis wrote:

[Easy]
why claps everywhere lol maybe ask the owner of mapset or the mapper who made hard how to hitsounding. i like it like this :3
00:15:204 (2) - I'd make this slider a 1/1 and then moving this to next tick, so you can add a circle at 00:15:204 - that the slider can follow the sound at 00:15:589 - there isnt even a sound there enough to be followed ansd the next sound is on a red tick so i cant follow that either
00:46:743 (2,1) - distance is messed up ._. its not though
01:22:897 (2) - you should avoid circle overlapping hp bar especially in easier diffs. moved
Nao Tomori
[extra]

most people snap their spinners to 1/4 not 1/16th lol..

00:14:436 (4,3) - these notes are overmapped, or much quieter. the most obvious rhythm here is double based, and it makes it much more interesting than a generic quint too. (this is repeated every time there's a quint lol)

00:17:127 - this is a really quiet sound, i think it's better to leave it as a slider end.

00:20:204 - doesn't sound like any sound xd



00:30:974 (3,4,5,6,7) - should be same spacing as 00:29:436 (1,2,3,4,5) - imo, same sound in the song.

this section is nice because it establishes a horizontal theme

00:31:551 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - then this thing completely ruins that entire theme. pretty weird lol.
also the shape of that stream is really ugly, the right angle is weird and besides 00:32:032 (6) - is actually overmapped, i think you can easily adjust this to fit better with the rest of the map.

00:32:512 (1,2,3,4,5) - only time you use a curved burst up until now. with such a slight curve, you might be better off just making it into a straight line.

however, i don't think the straight horizontal gimmick is that good, since you don't implement it in the rest of the map. it's better to do stuff like polygon shapes or varying spacing rather than using that kind of map-defining theme in only half of the first kiai.


the next section has some messy visual spacings, like

00:41:358 (7,1) - is really close together

00:42:321 (2,3,4,5,6) - this entire pattern looks pretty ugly imo

00:47:320 (4,5) - this motion feels weird to me, just a minor change of ctrl g on 4 would make it "play" better

00:47:897 (1,3,5) - you use 3 different sliders in the same section, and they are not really evenly spaced or stuff so it doesn't look that good.

00:54:821 (5,6,7,8) - this pattern isn't that good cuz it puts a lot of emphasis on 7 even though 7 isn't a note that needs emphasis

00:55:782 (2,4) - is also an example of bad visual spacing

most of the 2nd kiai has this same issue where the notes don't really look like they're arranged in any sort of cohesive pattern. this leads to weird angles and emphasis like
01:04:244 (5,6) - having a wide angle into it and then 01:04:820 (7) - having huge spacing.

01:05:589 (3,4,5,6) - has really big spacing even though it isn't anything special per se

the last kiai has the same issue of establishing a theme and then completely ruining it with the longer streams

i know this is quite a dumb sounding thing to say since it's hard to explain on a forum post. it'd be better to irc mod this imo, i could show you what i mean better.

[insane]
the rhythm in the intro is better if you follow the synth since it's a lot more clear than the drums imo... you can just ctrl g every 2,3 00:14:339 (2,3) - to solve this issue.

00:33:666 (8,9) - should be same slider o.o

00:43:089 (1,2,3) - think it's better to do something that emphasizes the held out vocal

00:56:358 (4,5,6,7,1,2) - things like this with varying angles and visual spacing make the map look really messy and inconsistent, it's better to maintain visual spacing within each pattern.

this issue is present throughout the entire 2nd kiai too, it's hard to point out specific changes since you'd need to redo the entire thing with a different structure in mind. if you'd like i can irc with you as well for questions..

[hard]

i don't really like the back and forths you used, since i think it presents an undue reading challenge when combined with the fact that you use 1/2 stacks, triple stacks, 1/1 "stacks" in the back and forths and slider stacks too.

00:18:666 (1) - think this is better with 2 1/1 sliders or 3/2 sliders rather than the repeat. like here 00:24:820 (1,2) -

00:37:993 (6) - why is the spacing increased around here o.o

00:55:589 (1,2,3) - this looks pretty ugly imo. (on every time that pattern is used.)

basically a bunch of sliders get really really close together and it looks really bad imo. not that big of a deal compared to the reading stuff with the stacks.

[normal]
00:15:589 (1,2,3) - this kind of thing is a big nono cuz 3 and 2 are same spacing, and 3 is closer to the cursor so noobs will misread and go to 3 instead of 2.
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7354901 something like this is better. (though that pattern i used is really ugly dont do that xd)

00:24:051 (2,3) - looks pretty ugly tbh

00:28:666 (2,3,1) - same thing as before. you could just rotate 1 a bit and move it down. generally speaking, right angles are a bit harsh for noobs and it's better to use more soft angles imo.

00:39:051 (2,3,1) - same thing with misreading, 1 is in the slider path of 2, pretty misleading.

00:43:089 (4,1,2) - lol

basically you do the exact same thing a bunch, please fix..

00:46:743 (1,2,3) - this one is fine

00:58:474 (3) - this is low key the most ugly slider i've ever seen

you also use a shit ton of repeat sliders, which make really harsh movement for noobs and should generally be avoided in that quantity.




this mod is super remap kds-y, i hope it helps. as always, pm me if you want to ask questions!
xChorse

Nao Tomori wrote:

[hard]

i don't really like the back and forths you used, since i think it presents an undue reading challenge when combined with the fact that you use 1/2 stacks, triple stacks, 1/1 "stacks" in the back and forths and slider stacks too. stacks r kinda a huge part of my mapping style so i dont plan on changing those xd

00:18:666 (1) - think this is better with 2 1/1 sliders or 3/2 sliders rather than the repeat. like here 00:24:820 (1,2) - ya done

00:37:993 (6) - why is the spacing increased around here o.o first kiai starts off 1.5x then increases to 1.6x to reduce clutter of the 1/4s and stays at 1.6x for the other kiais

00:55:589 (1,2,3) - this looks pretty ugly imo. (on every time that pattern is used.) idk i like it lo

basically a bunch of sliders get really really close together and it looks really bad imo. not that big of a deal compared to the reading stuff with the stacks. i dont think any of them get too close to make it look bad since there are like no overlapss
the close sliders could also be interpreted as getting vry clos to the rail when ur drifting Xd

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Topic Starter
Haganenno

Nao Tomori wrote:

[extra]

most people snap their spinners to 1/4 not 1/16th lol.. literally who cares but ok will change cuz... who cares hihi

00:14:436 (4,3) - these notes are overmapped, or much quieter. the most obvious rhythm here is double based, and it makes it much more interesting than a generic quint too. (this is repeated every time there's a quint lol) there is rhythm going on and the reason I'm oversimplifying this is because of the beginning and low intensity

00:17:127 - this is a really quiet sound, i think it's better to leave it as a slider end. will think about it

00:20:204 - doesn't sound like any sound xd how can it sound to you if there is no sound? :thinking: (no but seriously there is a really obvious sound



00:30:974 (3,4,5,6,7) - should be same spacing as 00:29:436 (1,2,3,4,5) - imo, same sound in the song. agreed

this section is nice because it establishes a horizontal theme

00:31:551 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - then this thing completely ruins that entire theme. pretty weird lol. simply because having everything horizontal for the entire riff - boring. I was keeping it horizontal and then decided to move onto more vertical scheme
also the shape of that stream is really ugly, the right angle is weird and besides 00:32:032 (6) - is actually overmapped, i think you can easily adjust this to fit better with the rest of the map. the reason why I am mapping (6) is because I am giving it a bit of a light treatment because it is an end of a stanza and I want it to be interesting and difficult.

00:32:512 (1,2,3,4,5) - only time you use a curved burst up until now. with such a slight curve, you might be better off just making it into a straight line. already thought about changing this, but then other curved streams would fall out of context. After the square corner stream, I want it to become less stale

however, i don't think the straight horizontal gimmick is that good, since you don't implement it in the rest of the map. it's better to do stuff like polygon shapes or varying spacing rather than using that kind of map-defining theme in only half of the first kiai.


the next section has some messy visual spacings, like

00:41:358 (7,1) - is really close together but how is that a problem?

00:42:321 (2,3,4,5,6) - this entire pattern looks pretty ugly imo I am aware of that, I keep procrastinating on this.

00:47:320 (4,5) - this motion feels weird to me, just a minor change of ctrl g on 4 would make it "play" better I disagree on ctrl+g but I lowered the spacing a bit

00:47:897 (1,3,5) - you use 3 different sliders in the same section, and they are not really evenly spaced or stuff so it doesn't look that good. made two of them match

00:54:821 (5,6,7,8) - this pattern isn't that good cuz it puts a lot of emphasis on 7 even though 7 isn't a note that needs emphasis fixed a bit lets see how this does

00:55:782 (2,4) - is also an example of bad visual spacing pushed 4 away and alligned it with (2)

most of the 2nd kiai has this same issue where the notes don't really look like they're arranged in any sort of cohesive pattern. this leads to weird angles and emphasis like
01:04:244 (5,6) - having a wide angle into it and then 01:04:820 (7) - having huge spacing. (7) doesnt have huge spacing, its after a slider and its really intense. This is completely intentional. Weird angle between 5,6 because, well... 80% of my chorus are weird angles

01:05:589 (3,4,5,6) - has really big spacing even though it isn't anything special per se intensity rising, thus spacing getting bigger

the last kiai has the same issue of establishing a theme and then completely ruining it with the longer streams
i know this is quite a dumb sounding thing to say since it's hard to explain on a forum post. it'd be better to irc mod this imo, i could show you what i mean better.

this mod is super remap kds-y, i hope it helps. as always, pm me if you want to ask questions! ye it helps thanks :>
Karen
yo i don't know where i am from

you forgot to remove initial d from tags

Extra Rocks!
  1. overall the map is fine as it is, it just needs some improvements on details here and there.
  2. 00:18:666 (1,2) - you blanketed the head of (2) then better to blanket the tail if (1) as well, like http://puu.sh/u8SnR/cba45f809b.jpg
  3. 00:22:801 - why not 5% volume
  4. 00:24:821 (1,2) - the shapes are similar so how about just using the same shape? copy & paste 00:24:821 (1) - this one, the different shapes are kinda hmm..weird
  5. 00:32:512 (1,2,3,4,5) - curve more or make it straight. why do you like to trigger people lol
  6. 00:35:397 (1) - ctrl+g? because 00:35:397 (1,2,3,4) - this flow is not that comfortable to play
  7. 00:44:244 (3,4) - too far, it's 1/4 but the spacing is even bigger than 00:43:859 (7,1) - this
  8. 00:54:050 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the jumps don't fit here, 00:54:821 (5,6,7,8) - vocals here have a higher pitch but the jumps are even easier
  9. 00:56:935 - this beat shouldn't be ignored, make 00:56:743 (5,1) - 1/2 slier + 2 circles?
  10. 01:00:782 (3,4) - usually we don't make 2 sliders too closed like this, because sliders are much easier than circles
  11. 01:14:820 (1,2) - sounds more like 2 3/4 sliders
  12. 01:21:743 (1,2,3,4,5) - i mentioned this above
  13. 01:27:224 (1) - remove nc
    2 problems in your diff:
    1. 01:03:281 - kiai is kinda overdone, maps from top players always have this problem because they can easily catch them, but normal plays can't, like 01:07:897 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this one, the flow is bad too imo, 01:07:897 (1,3) - big jump + stacking kills players
      01:12:512 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - evil
    2. pay more attention to aesthetics, many people don't like it but it's an important part in mapping, here're some examples:
      00:35:397 (1,6) - 00:41:743 (8,2) - almost overlapped (just mentioning 00:46:551 (8,2) - this one looks much better because it's consistent with 00:46:167 (6,1) - this, so if you do some edgy things, make them consistent)
      00:35:397 (1,6) - can be blanket'd with 00:41:935 (1) -
      00:47:897 (1,4) - 00:52:704 (2,4) - unnecessary overlap
      ok i think you can get it now so stopping here


had a quick look on other diffs, seems they don't have big issues (hitsounding needs some rework on Easy though) so i skipped them

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Haganenno

Karen wrote:

yo i don't know where i am from

you forgot to remove initial d from tags aye

Extra Rocks!
  1. overall the map is fine as it is, it just needs some improvements on details here and there. danks
  2. 00:18:666 (1,2) - you blanketed the head of (2) then better to blanket the tail if (1) as well, like http://puu.sh/u8SnR/cba45f809b.jpg tried to do what you said, idk if I succeeded
  3. 00:22:801 - why not 5% volume idk feel like this is a bit more intense than the other two patterns of the same kind
  4. 00:24:821 (1,2) - the shapes are similar so how about just using the same shape? copy & paste 00:24:821 (1) - this one, the different shapes are kinda hmm..weird but then no roof :((( idk I will think about it
  5. 00:32:512 (1,2,3,4,5) - curve more or make it straight. why do you like to trigger people lol if I receive one more mod saying to change this, I will.
  6. 00:35:397 (1) - ctrl+g? because 00:35:397 (1,2,3,4) - this flow is not that comfortable to play why not
  7. 00:44:244 (3,4) - too far, it's 1/4 but the spacing is even bigger than 00:43:859 (7,1) - this not changing for now, plays fine and I did that to express the repeat
  8. 00:54:050 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - the jumps don't fit here, 00:54:821 (5,6,7,8) - vocals here have a higher pitch but the jumps are even easier idk I dont hear the pitch change, if there is, then it's really insignificant, not even half a tone
  9. 00:56:935 - this beat shouldn't be ignored, make 00:56:743 (5,1) - 1/2 slier + 2 circles? I think I ignore this kind of drums throughout the entire song 01:24:531 - for example. Never felt like they matter in this song. I like moooooo- slider better
  10. 01:00:782 (3,4) - usually we don't make 2 sliders too closed like this, because sliders are much easier than circles I increased spacing a bit, not sure if I did the right thing though
  11. 01:14:820 (1,2) - sounds more like 2 3/4 sliders I find the beats on white tick so firm and I want to express that
  12. 01:21:743 (1,2,3,4,5) - i mentioned this above
  13. 01:27:224 (1) - remove nc ok
    2 problems in your diff:
    1. 01:03:281 - kiai is kinda overdone, maps from top players always have this problem because they can easily catch them, but normal plays can't, like 01:07:897 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this one, the flow is bad too imo, 01:07:897 (1,3) - big jump + stacking kills players
      01:12:512 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - evil how else am I going to express the complete banger of a song this is ;w;
    2. pay more attention to aesthetics, many people don't like it but it's an important part in mapping, here're some examples:
      00:35:397 (1,6) - 00:41:743 (8,2) - almost overlapped (just mentioning 00:46:551 (8,2) - this one looks much better because it's consistent with 00:46:167 (6,1) - this, so if you do some edgy things, make them consistent)
      00:35:397 (1,6) - can be blanket'd with 00:41:935 (1) -
      00:47:897 (1,4) - 00:52:704 (2,4) - unnecessary overlap it is not that I don't pay attention, it is that I just suck at aesthetics ;w;. I tried to fix everything you put out, thanks
      ok i think you can get it now so stopping here


had a quick look on other diffs, seems they don't have big issues (hitsounding needs some rework on Easy though) so i skipped them

Good luck!
Thanks a lot for your time, if you ever need a mod from me, hit me up :):D
Topic Starter
Haganenno
Changelog on Rocks:
01:19:243 - made this stream into doubles
Hitsounded more consistently
Downscaled kiai a bit
Bacwux
Monarch's Easy Rocks!
Very clean easy, im not a pro at modding easier maps either so idk.

squirrelp's Normal Rocks!
*in general, i think the slider velo is really fast for a normal song, but it could be workable*
00:24:051 (2) - Instead of the slider looking like that, just copy 3, and use ctrl+g
00:37:897 (2,3) - Would look nicer if these were rounded off instead of being just straight lines.
00:40:781 (3) - Neaten this slider up by putting a better flow to it.
00:45:781 (3) - Dont have these straight angle sliders like this, it makes the map look funky and weird.
00:52:320 (1,3) - This is a good thing tho, these sliders fit the map more than just long right angle or V shaped sliders.
00:57:704 (2) - Point this slider to the next object, instead of the opposite direction.
00:58:474 (3) - Probably shouldnt just have a long slider here, instead just fit with the background music more. The map deoesnt have to only reflect one thing at a time y'know!
01:05:589 (2) - Be better if you curved this slider and shaped it around the end of 1, instead of the angle.
*also general, you followed the lyrics abviously when they were there, but at the long slider parts where the slider last awhile, follow the background music, cuz long sliders can get boring.*

xChorse's Hard Rocks!
00:42:897 (6,1,2) - This is just me, but 1 and 2 look closer than 6 and 1, and it just bugs my eyes. Though you can keep it.
01:06:358 (1,2,3) - The triangle here is a bit off and funny looking, rotating one side 120 would work making a nicer triangle.
Very nice and clean hard!

Jinx's Insane Rocks!
00:42:512 (4,5,6,1) - You could neaten up these jump by making them a bit more equal/better flowing.
00:53:666 (5,6,7) - Ik it seems like it would fit, but there is no reason for a triple here, no sound on blue tick.
Good job! Could be a bit neater on the jumps, but otherwise good.

Extra Rocks!
00:24:820 (1,2) - Probably wouldnt be the best idea to have these sliders here, as in make them a bit better looking and better flow.
00:31:551 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I see you space them when the music gets more intense, but this spot the music stays medium, lower the spacing for right here.
00:32:512 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Make these flow better im the map, it just feels weird to do, maybe the 5 stream could flow clockwise instead of counter.
00:36:935 (1,2,3,4,5) - Let the 1 end one 1/8 beat earlier and put an object right beside it. Also neaten up the square a little bit.
00:40:782 (3,4,5) - No need for a triple here
00:47:127 (3,4) - These dont need to be 1/4th sliders.
01:15:590 (1,2,3,4,5) - This stream onwards is just the beginning part only flipped/rotated or something. Try to change it up, dont be lazy with your mapping, thats how maps dont get ranked.....
Sorta...

Btw, i already had the song before you requested it lmao, i find it funny. I like the song, just need some improvements on your map!
Topic Starter
Haganenno

Bacwux wrote:

Extra Rocks!
00:24:820 (1,2) - Probably wouldnt be the best idea to have these sliders here, as in make them a bit better looking and better flow. yes I think I will be dealing with this soon
00:31:551 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I see you space them when the music gets more intense, but this spot the music stays medium, lower the spacing for right here. I love this and it is an end of a stanza, always cool to have something fun in end of stanzas
00:32:512 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Make these flow better im the map, it just feels weird to do, maybe the 5 stream could flow clockwise instead of counter. that would be terrible
00:36:935 (1,2,3,4,5) - Let the 1 end one 1/8 beat earlier and put an object right beside it. Also neaten up the square a little bit. I see where you are coming from, I can hear the beat, but I used to do these patterns correctly before and it was really hard and cancerous to play. I did this for playability
00:40:782 (3,4,5) - No need for a triple here no need, but there should be
00:47:127 (3,4) - These dont need to be 1/4th sliders. "you don't have to do this" movie moment. Yes I do.
01:15:590 (1,2,3,4,5) - This stream onwards is just the beginning part only flipped/rotated or something. Try to change it up, dont be lazy with your mapping, thats how maps dont get ranked..... hard to change it up most of the time, I did change up some things.
Sorta...

Btw, i already had the song before you requested it lmao, i find it funny. I like the song, just need some improvements on your map! yes because the song is straight up fire 🔥🔥
xChorse

Bacwux wrote:

xChorse's Hard Rocks!
00:42:897 (6,1,2) - This is just me, but 1 and 2 look closer than 6 and 1, and it just bugs my eyes. Though you can keep it.
01:06:358 (1,2,3) - The triangle here is a bit off and funny looking, rotating one side 120 would work making a nicer triangle.
Very nice and clean hard!
changed both, thanks

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J1NX1337

Nao Tomori wrote:

[insane]
the rhythm in the intro is better if you follow the synth since it's a lot more clear than the drums imo... you can just ctrl g every 2,3 00:14:339 (2,3) - to solve this issue. - I agree it's more intuitive if it follows the synths, but I think following the drums is an alright rhythm choice as well. Since I think my current solution is fine, I don't feel like doing so much structural remapping over this, because simply Ctrl+Ging everything and leaving it at that is not enough.

00:33:666 (8,9) - should be same slider o.o - If you mean making the shapes the exact same, fixed.

00:43:089 (1,2,3) - think it's better to do something that emphasizes the held out vocal - There is a sound on both slider starts that I like to emphasize with these, hence the mirroring. I'd rather keep it as it is to maintain rhythm density.

00:56:358 (4,5,6,7,1,2) - things like this with varying angles and visual spacing make the map look really messy and inconsistent, it's better to maintain visual spacing within each pattern. - I'm afraid you'd have to elaborate more on this. I'm not sure what particularly about this pattern is so concerning to you, I'm raising spacing appropriately here because of vocal intensity increase and synths, imo. It's kind of hard to maintain "visual spacing" in a combo when intensity changes take place. I don't personally see anything wrong with it and neither do I really see your point either. :/

this issue is present throughout the entire 2nd kiai too, it's hard to point out specific changes since you'd need to redo the entire thing with a different structure in mind. if you'd like i can irc with you as well for questions.. - Since I just about finished mapping this, any kind of structural remapping would be unlikely to improve it. You'll have to use better reasoning for that to happen, and it doesn't really seem like a big issue to begin with.

Bacwux wrote:

Jinx's Insane Rocks!
00:42:512 (4,5,6,1) - You could neaten up these jump by making them a bit more equal/better flowing. - Made the visual spacing and flow more equal.
00:53:666 (5,6,7) - Ik it seems like it would fit, but there is no reason for a triple here, no sound on blue tick. - I hear a slight snare/tick sound on all the blue ticks here, so I decided to use a triplet here for the lack of vocals and a decent entry back into the vocals afterwards. It's not the most prominent sound but it's still there, so I'll keep it at least for now.
Good job! Could be a bit neater on the jumps, but otherwise good. - Thanks~ :P
Thanks for the mods, sorry for the late reply! :D

Also decided to add a clap hitsound during my kiai sections thanks to Delis' mod, thanks again~

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Title:Back on the Rocks
TitleUnicode:Back on the Rocks
Artist:Mega NRG Man
ArtistUnicode:Mega NRG Man
Creator:Haganenno
Version:Jinx's Insane Rocks!
Source:Initial D
Tags:super eurobeat anime english xChorse Shiguma squirrelpascals Monarch j1nx1337 rocks!
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A r M i N
i love this map so much its simply fun to play :3 maybe one of my most played maps of the last month or so <3

good luck
Topic Starter
Haganenno

A r M i N wrote:

i love this map so much its simply fun to play :3 maybe one of my most played maps of the last month or so <3

good luck
Wow, thanks dude!
CucumberCuc
Hi :3
M4M mod

Nothing, all OK
00:22:512 (2) You can do a little further
01:16:166 you can put circle
01:17:704 ^
01:22:704 ^
01:25:397 ^
Check your tags
00:27:224 you can put circle
00:29:147 ^
00:30:301 ^
nothing
00:15:589 put circle
nothing more


Nice music ^~^
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