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16:14 Troll: alright
16:14 Troll: so
16:14 Troll: this first thing is kinda dumb
16:14 Nevo: remap
16:14 Nevo: kds pls
16:14 Troll: but its my ocd thing
16:14 Nevo: the start jumps?
16:14 Nevo: thing
16:14 Troll: so
16:14 Troll: 00:02:265 (3) -
16:15 Troll: is farther from 2 than 4
16:15 Troll: by a bit
16:15 Troll: you can see in the upper right
16:15 Troll: 1.53x vs 1.44x
16:15 Troll: its not really a problem but im retarded and this is probably why i map so slowly
16:16 Nevo: LOL
16:16 Nevo: i agree
16:16 Nevo: i have never noticed that
16:17 Troll: 00:11:204 (4,5,6,7) - the beginning of this thing is too straight, and it just looks bad
16:17 Nevo: that wouldve saved me so much time if i could find ds like that
16:17 Nevo: xD
16:17 Nevo: fixed
16:17 Nevo: stupid slider to stream hates me
16:18 Troll: so as i was saying earlier
16:18 Troll: when it transitions from intro to verse
16:19 Troll: around 16:659
16:19 Troll: the pace should decrease
16:19 Troll: as the music itself is quieter and isnt as intense
16:19 Troll: but instead the jumps get way bigger
16:20 Troll: i do like how it seems less dense, which goes along with the music, but i think it would only be acceptable if the beginning was more jumpy
16:20 Troll: or something
16:21 Nevo: i got it
16:21 Nevo: im fixing that
16:21 Troll: 00:22:416 (1) -
16:22 Troll: im trying to find a way to justify this nc
16:22 Nevo: the downboat
16:22 Nevo: did i just?
16:22 Nevo: downbeat
16:22 Nevo: god how am i american
16:22 Troll: isnt that
16:22 Troll: well
16:22 Troll: the new combo is techincally on the upbeat right
16:22 Nevo: i took it out
16:23 Nevo: it was dumb
16:23 Nevo: XD
16:23 Troll: well
16:23 Troll: you can keep it
16:23 Troll: but i think you should take the next nc out
16:23 Nevo: oh
16:23 Nevo: i didnt see that
16:23 Nevo: yeah lets do that
16:23 Troll: yeah a lot of these japanese songs have stress a half beat before the downbeat
16:24 Nevo: TATOE
16:24 Nevo: i had to im sorry
16:24 Troll: dont think thats an example sorry
16:24 Troll: lol
16:25 Troll: for things like triples and streams
16:25 Troll: i usually prefer to follow the flow
16:25 Troll: so in this case:
16:25 Troll: 00:37:871 (6,7,8) -
16:25 Troll: the previous pattern is going clockwise
16:26 Troll: but suddenly they turn and go the other way
16:26 Troll: of course, this is fine imo if theres something you want to stress in the music
16:26 Troll: but in this case i dont think a few snare hits are good enough
16:26 Nevo: changed
16:26 Troll: idk if thats snare lol
16:27 Nevo: im a nub at technical map
16:27 Troll: eh its ok
16:27 Nevo: i hear triple
16:27 Nevo: i place triple
16:27 Nevo: lul
16:27 Troll: just sayin if u want to make pp map its gotta be ez to play
16:27 Nevo: i mean
16:27 Troll: kappa
16:27 Nevo: im not rying to make a pp
16:27 Nevo: map
16:27 Nevo: like i am
16:27 Troll: ???
16:27 Nevo: but i like the flow and style of pp map
16:27 Nevo: XD
16:28 Troll: ok then
16:28 Nevo: i dont want people to be dt farming this
16:28 Nevo: someone will
16:28 Troll: idt anyone can dt this
16:28 Nevo: and ill cri
16:28 Nevo: XD
16:28 Troll: its basically 300 bpm
16:28 Nevo: lol
16:28 Troll: ok
16:29 Nevo: dont worry they can dt it
16:29 Troll: moving on
16:29 Nevo: ill just use fl
16:29 Nevo: okey
16:29 Troll: 00:43:628 (1) - if this is a new combo
16:29 Troll: 00:44:234 (3) - shouldnt this be too
16:29 Nevo: no fuck the 3
16:29 Nevo: jk
16:29 Nevo: fixed
16:30 Troll: 00:47:265 (4) - i think this one's spacing is kinda uncalled for
16:30 Troll: its too far from the others in the pattern
16:31 Troll: well
16:31 Troll: its just that 1>2>3 is a lot closer
16:31 Troll: and 3>4 isnt really important musically
16:31 Nevo: its drunk
16:31 Troll: if you want to keep a big jump
16:32 Troll: you can move 2 and 3 farther apart
16:32 Nevo: nah its fine
16:32 Troll: ok then
16:32 Troll: 6,7,8 in the same combo look pretty bad imo
16:33 Troll: you can keep the same shape pretty much but rotate 8 maybe?
16:34 Nevo: done
16:34 Troll: 00:58:022 (1) - whats this nc
16:35 Nevo: its called i added notes and moved some and forgot to fix
16:35 Nevo: lol
16:35 Troll: rip
16:35 Troll: 01:03:931 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) -
16:35 Troll: these would look better in a square
16:35 Troll: but i guess its fine
16:36 Nevo: done
16:36 Troll: that was fast
16:36 Nevo: i will very rarely disagree with what someone says
16:36 Nevo: XD
16:36 Troll: i mean
16:36 Troll: squares are hard
16:36 Troll: unless ur freehanding
16:36 Nevo: blue dragon
16:36 Nevo: has more
16:36 Nevo: so im fine
16:36 Nevo: OH
16:36 Nevo: wait
16:36 Nevo: yeah i am
16:36 Troll: not hard, just ctrl shift d for perfect squares
16:37 Troll: but its kinda tedious
16:37 Nevo: its a crooked square
16:37 Troll: usually squares i freehand but
16:37 Nevo: but its even
16:37 Nevo: xD
16:37 Troll: pentagons/stars i use that thing
16:37 Troll: unless i dont want it to be perfect ofc
16:37 Nevo: i do triangle
16:37 Troll: i do triangle like
16:38 Troll: place 2 notes using distance snap
16:38 Nevo: and back and forth
16:38 Nevo: and x
16:38 Troll: place third and check if another one in the starting place works
16:38 Nevo: im insane
16:38 Troll: if not adjust
16:38 Troll: i think i might just have really bad mapping practices
16:38 Nevo: this is the first map i made where the ds isnt consistant
16:38 Nevo: i think i do
16:39 Nevo: i map really fast
16:39 Nevo: then hitsound
16:39 Nevo: barely
16:39 Troll: i only use distance snaps when i want even shapes and stuff
16:39 Nevo: then call it shit
16:39 Troll: rip
16:39 Nevo: and ask people to mod it
16:39 Troll: lol
16:39 Troll: i place a note
16:39 Nevo: i place a note. then quit
16:39 Nevo: gg
16:39 Troll: if i can easily figure out where the next note would go logically
16:40 Troll: then i do that and repeat
16:40 Troll: otherwise i testplay D:
16:40 Nevo: i usally start
16:40 Nevo: by pick the song
16:40 Troll: wait we should get back to this mod
16:40 Nevo: then i find a beatmap that already has the bpm
16:40 Troll: finish it up
16:40 Nevo: XD
16:40 Nevo: we should
16:40 Nevo: we almost there
16:40 Troll: gg i do my own timing lol
16:41 Nevo: i do when i have to
16:41 Troll: 01:06:659 (3,4,5) -
16:41 Troll: i seem to recall something like this in my map
16:41 Nevo: do you?
16:41 Troll: in the upper left too lol
16:41 Nevo: i ahvent modded your map
16:41 Nevo: xD
16:41 Troll: maybe im high
16:41 Nevo: i saw it in a bunch of maps
16:41 Nevo: so i stole it
16:41 Nevo: XD
16:42 Troll: it is almost 3 so
16:42 Nevo: lol
16:42 Nevo: i mean its a nice patern
16:42 Troll: anyway
16:42 Nevo: breaks ds everytime i use it
16:42 Nevo: xD
16:42 Troll: the slider should have the red points evenly spaced
16:43 Troll: or at least the first and the last section should be equal lengths
16:43 Troll: and also they should be parallel
16:43 Nevo: kinda fixed
16:43 Nevo: yeah i did that
16:44 Troll: its ok it doesnt have to be perfect but it bothers me in its current state
16:44 Troll: 01:08:022 (3,4,5,6,7) - you should just make this a regular star with the polygon thing
16:44 Nevo: FIXED
16:44 Nevo: i think
16:45 Nevo: that thing doesnt do stars
16:45 Troll: it does pentagons
16:45 Nevo: yeah
16:45 Troll: then you just rearrange the points
16:45 Nevo: oh
16:45 Troll: :)
16:45 Nevo: 666
16:45 Nevo: wut
16:45 Troll: ???
16:46 Troll: the sliders at the end are definitely too fast
16:46 *Nevo runs\
16:46 Troll: unless
16:46 Nevo: YEAH
16:46 Nevo: IKR
16:46 Troll: wait
16:46 Troll: not done
16:46 Troll: theyre too fast
16:46 Troll: unless you make the end like
16:46 *Nevo is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/433005 Halozy - Genryuu Kaiko]
16:46 Troll: where all the pp jumps are
16:46 Nevo: XD
16:46 Troll: if you know what i mean
16:46 Troll: right before
16:47 Troll: from like 1:22 to the sliders
16:47 Nevo: i legit just made the sliders like the ones in genryuu
16:47 Troll: instead of these easy small jumps
16:47 Troll: you can make them harder and have the sliders like the climax at the end
16:47 Nevo: wait
16:47 Troll: the they wont just come out of nowhere
16:47 Nevo: OH
16:47 Nevo: i kinda get it
16:48 Troll: :D
16:49 Troll: ok thats basically it
16:49 Troll: ill let you know if i have anything else later
16:49 Nevo: ok