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JIN ft. MARiA from GARNiDELiA - daze (TV Size)

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Nevo
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 11:54:02 AM

Artist: JIN ft. MARiA from GARNiDELiA
Title: daze (TV Size)
Source: メカクシティアクターズ
Tags: カゲロウプロジェクト vocaloid ia Mekakucity Actors project カゲロウプロジェク 中西亮輔 自然の敵P Shizen no Teki P Teki-P TekiP じん Blindfold utaite short ver version naotoshi nao tomori yukiyo nextplay My Angel Kanan
BPM: 198
Filesize: 9164kb
Play Time: 01:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Kagerou (5.55 stars, 468 notes)
  2. Nao's Hard (3.68 stars, 313 notes)
  3. Next's Normal (2.31 stars, 207 notes)
  4. Yukiyo's Insane (4.56 stars, 381 notes)
Download: JIN ft. MARiA from GARNiDELiA - daze (TV Size)
Download: JIN ft. MARiA from GARNiDELiA - daze (TV Size) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Ranked

Kagerou Project

Next's Normal - by nextplay
Nao's Hard - by Nao Tomori
Yukiyo's Insane - by Yukiyo
Kagerou - by Nevo

Hitsounds by Yukiyo


old set
Last edited by Nevo , edited 53 times in total.
Troll
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Troll
through in-game IRC

log
16:14 Troll: alright
16:14 Troll: so
16:14 Troll: this first thing is kinda dumb
16:14 Nevo: remap
16:14 Nevo: kds pls
16:14 Troll: but its my ocd thing
16:14 Nevo: the start jumps?
16:14 Nevo: thing
16:14 Troll: so
16:14 Troll: 00:02:265 (3) - 
16:15 Troll: is farther from 2 than 4
16:15 Troll: by a bit
16:15 Troll: you can see in the upper right
16:15 Troll: 1.53x vs 1.44x
16:15 Troll: its not really a problem but im retarded and this is probably why i map so slowly
16:16 Nevo: LOL
16:16 Nevo: i agree
16:16 Nevo: i have never noticed that
16:17 Troll: 00:11:204 (4,5,6,7) - the beginning of this thing is too straight, and it just looks bad
16:17 Nevo: that wouldve saved me so much time if i could find ds like that
16:17 Nevo: xD
16:17 Nevo: fixed
16:17 Nevo: stupid slider to stream hates me
16:18 Troll: so as i was saying earlier
16:18 Troll: when it transitions from intro to verse
16:19 Troll: around 16:659
16:19 Troll: the pace should decrease
16:19 Troll: as the music itself is quieter and isnt as intense
16:19 Troll: but instead the jumps get way bigger
16:20 Troll: i do like how it seems less dense, which goes along with the music, but i think it would only be acceptable if the beginning was more jumpy 
16:20 Troll: or something
16:21 Nevo: i got it
16:21 Nevo: im fixing that
16:21 Troll: 00:22:416 (1) - 
16:22 Troll: im trying to find a way to justify this nc
16:22 Nevo: the downboat
16:22 Nevo: did i just?
16:22 Nevo: downbeat
16:22 Nevo: god how am i american
16:22 Troll: isnt that
16:22 Troll: well
16:22 Troll: the new combo is techincally on the upbeat right
16:22 Nevo: i took it out
16:23 Nevo: it was dumb
16:23 Nevo: XD
16:23 Troll: well
16:23 Troll: you can keep it
16:23 Troll: but i think you should take the next nc out
16:23 Nevo: oh
16:23 Nevo: i didnt see that
16:23 Nevo: yeah lets do that
16:23 Troll: yeah a lot of these japanese songs have stress a half beat before the downbeat
16:24 Nevo: TATOE
16:24 Nevo: i had to im sorry
16:24 Troll: dont think thats an example sorry
16:24 Troll: lol
16:25 Troll: for things like triples and streams
16:25 Troll: i usually prefer to follow the flow
16:25 Troll: so in this case:
16:25 Troll: 00:37:871 (6,7,8) - 
16:25 Troll: the previous pattern is going clockwise
16:26 Troll: but suddenly they turn and go the other way
16:26 Troll: of course, this is fine imo if theres something you want to stress in the music
16:26 Troll: but in this case i dont think a few snare hits are good enough
16:26 Nevo: changed
16:26 Troll: idk if thats snare lol
16:27 Nevo: im a nub at technical map
16:27 Troll: eh its ok
16:27 Nevo: i hear triple
16:27 Nevo: i place triple
16:27 Nevo: lul
16:27 Troll: just sayin if u want to make pp map its gotta be ez to play
16:27 Nevo: i mean
16:27 Troll: kappa
16:27 Nevo: im not rying to make a pp
16:27 Nevo: map
16:27 Nevo: like i am
16:27 Troll: ???
16:27 Nevo: but i like the flow and style of pp map
16:27 Nevo: XD
16:28 Troll: ok then
16:28 Nevo: i dont want people to be dt farming this
16:28 Nevo: someone will
16:28 Troll: idt anyone can dt this
16:28 Nevo: and ill cri
16:28 Nevo: XD
16:28 Troll: its basically 300 bpm
16:28 Nevo: lol
16:28 Troll: ok
16:29 Nevo: dont worry they can dt it
16:29 Troll: moving on
16:29 Nevo: ill just use fl
16:29 Nevo: okey
16:29 Troll: 00:43:628 (1) - if this is a new combo
16:29 Troll: 00:44:234 (3) - shouldnt this be too
16:29 Nevo: no fuck the 3
16:29 Nevo: jk
16:29 Nevo: fixed
16:30 Troll: 00:47:265 (4) - i think this one's spacing is kinda uncalled for
16:30 Troll: its too far from the others in the pattern
16:31 Troll: well
16:31 Troll: its just that 1>2>3 is a lot closer
16:31 Troll: and 3>4 isnt really important musically
16:31 Nevo: its drunk
16:31 Troll: if you want to keep a big jump 
16:32 Troll: you can move 2 and 3 farther apart
16:32 Nevo: nah its fine
16:32 Troll: ok then
16:32 Troll: 6,7,8 in the same combo look pretty bad imo
16:33 Troll: you can keep the same shape pretty much but rotate 8 maybe?
16:34 Nevo: done
16:34 Troll: 00:58:022 (1) - whats this nc
16:35 Nevo: its called i added notes and moved some and forgot to fix
16:35 Nevo: lol
16:35 Troll: rip
16:35 Troll: 01:03:931 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - 
16:35 Troll: these would look better in a square
16:35 Troll: but i guess its fine
16:36 Nevo: done
16:36 Troll: that was fast
16:36 Nevo: i will very rarely disagree with what someone says
16:36 Nevo: XD
16:36 Troll: i mean
16:36 Troll: squares are hard
16:36 Troll: unless ur freehanding
16:36 Nevo: blue dragon
16:36 Nevo: has more
16:36 Nevo: so im fine
16:36 Nevo: OH
16:36 Nevo: wait
16:36 Nevo: yeah i am
16:36 Troll: not hard, just ctrl shift d for perfect squares
16:37 Troll: but its kinda tedious
16:37 Nevo: its a crooked square
16:37 Troll: usually squares i freehand but
16:37 Nevo: but its even
16:37 Nevo: xD
16:37 Troll: pentagons/stars i use that thing
16:37 Troll: unless i dont want it to be perfect ofc
16:37 Nevo: i do triangle
16:37 Troll: i do triangle like
16:38 Troll: place 2 notes using distance snap
16:38 Nevo: and back and forth
16:38 Nevo: and x
16:38 Troll: place third and check if another one in the starting place works
16:38 Nevo: im insane
16:38 Troll: if not adjust
16:38 Troll: i think i might just have really bad mapping practices
16:38 Nevo: this is the first map i made where the ds isnt consistant
16:38 Nevo: i think i do
16:39 Nevo: i map really fast
16:39 Nevo: then hitsound
16:39 Nevo: barely
16:39 Troll: i only use distance snaps when i want even shapes and stuff
16:39 Nevo: then call it shit
16:39 Troll: rip
16:39 Nevo: and ask people to mod it
16:39 Troll: lol
16:39 Troll: i place a note
16:39 Nevo: i place a note. then quit
16:39 Nevo: gg
16:39 Troll: if i can easily figure out where the next note would go logically
16:40 Troll: then i do that and repeat
16:40 Troll: otherwise i testplay D:
16:40 Nevo: i usally start
16:40 Nevo: by pick the song
16:40 Troll: wait we should get back to this mod
16:40 Nevo: then i find a beatmap that already has the bpm
16:40 Troll: finish it up
16:40 Nevo: XD
16:40 Nevo: we should
16:40 Nevo: we almost there
16:40 Troll: gg i do my own timing lol
16:41 Nevo: i do when i have to
16:41 Troll: 01:06:659 (3,4,5) - 
16:41 Troll: i seem to recall something like this in my map
16:41 Nevo: do you?
16:41 Troll: in the upper left too lol
16:41 Nevo: i ahvent modded your map
16:41 Nevo: xD
16:41 Troll: maybe im high
16:41 Nevo: i saw it in a bunch of maps
16:41 Nevo: so i stole it
16:41 Nevo: XD
16:42 Troll: it is almost 3 so
16:42 Nevo: lol
16:42 Nevo: i mean its a nice patern
16:42 Troll: anyway 
16:42 Nevo: breaks ds everytime i use it
16:42 Nevo: xD
16:42 Troll: the slider should have the red points evenly spaced
16:43 Troll: or at least the first and the last section should be equal lengths
16:43 Troll: and also they should be parallel
16:43 Nevo: kinda fixed
16:43 Nevo: yeah i did that
16:44 Troll: its ok it doesnt have to be perfect but it bothers me in its current state
16:44 Troll: 01:08:022 (3,4,5,6,7) - you should just make this a regular star with the polygon thing
16:44 Nevo: FIXED
16:44 Nevo: i think
16:45 Nevo: that thing doesnt do stars
16:45 Troll: it does pentagons
16:45 Nevo: yeah
16:45 Troll: then you just rearrange the points
16:45 Nevo: oh
16:45 Troll: :)
16:45 Nevo: 666
16:45 Nevo: wut
16:45 Troll: ???
16:46 Troll: the sliders at the end are definitely too fast
16:46 *Nevo runs\
16:46 Troll: unless
16:46 Nevo: YEAH
16:46 Nevo: IKR
16:46 Troll: wait
16:46 Troll: not done
16:46 Troll: theyre too fast
16:46 Troll: unless you make the end like
16:46 *Nevo is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/433005 Halozy - Genryuu Kaiko]
16:46 Troll: where all the pp jumps are
16:46 Nevo: XD
16:46 Troll: if you know what i mean
16:46 Troll: right before
16:47 Troll: from like 1:22 to the sliders
16:47 Nevo: i legit just made the sliders like the ones in genryuu
16:47 Troll: instead of these easy small jumps
16:47 Troll: you can make them harder and have the sliders like the climax at the end
16:47 Nevo: wait
16:47 Troll: the they wont just come out of nowhere
16:47 Nevo: OH
16:47 Nevo: i kinda get it
16:48 Troll: :D
16:49 Troll: ok thats basically it
16:49 Troll: ill let you know if i have anything else later
16:49 Nevo: ok
Foxy Grandpa
709 posts
Joined January 2015
Foxy Grandpa
I'm bored, and i have my own set of this song

So i guess i could give some good advice for the last diff.

  • [Style~]
    General

    Hitsounds are way too loud, adjust accordingly to the song.

    IDK what character the white is supposed to represent, if it's Kano just make it gray. Also you should add a purple color for Kido

    Your version has the song as (T.V. Size) the majority of Daze sets with a TV size are under (short ver.)

    Mods
  1. 00:01:507 (4,5,1) - Shorten 1 to 00:01:810 -
  2. 00:02:113 (2) - Delete this
  3. 00:02:795 - Add a note
  4. 00:05:219 - ^
  5. 00:06:053 (3) - Get rid of the repeat and drag it to 00:06:204 -
  6. 00:08:022 (8) - NC
  7. 00:11:431 (7,1) - Fix the spacing, not consistent with the stream.
  8. 00:15:295 (1,1) - Try to express this more, it's a very high point in the song, and right now it feels like it doesn't capture that intensity.
  9. 00:16:659 (1) - Nothing on this note.
  10. 00:18:174 (1) - Delete the NC
  11. 00:20:295 (2,3,4,5) - It's a cool pattern, but the spacing does not need to be this big in the verse.
  12. 00:20:901 (6,1) - Pause feels very awkward.
  13. 00:21:659 (2) - NC again here, change in pitch.
  14. 00:27:416 (1) - Get rid of the Sliderslide hitsound for this, only hitsound the head and the tail for whistle sliders.
  15. 00:43:022 (1,1,1) - Same for these, with my skin it just sounds annoying .-.
  16. 00:49:083 (1) - ^
  17. 00:58:022 (2,3) - Fix the spacing, really inconsistant.
  18. 01:03:931 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - NC on the start of each of these triplets and space them more, this is literally the highest point in the song so, you need to really capture that intensity with it.
  19. 01:08:022 (3,4,5,6,7) - Holy jump in spacing, please fix this >_>
  20. 01:25:446 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - This isn't Genryuu Kaiko, and you're not hollow wings. The change in feel is a lot more drastic than the verse to chorus, Please change this into something that's not, so intense.
Alright, thats all from me. Theres a lot of flow / spacing issues that I didn't mention. I think you need to go back and maybe look at what other daze maps have done (im not saying mine) if you don't really know what to map. This could use a lot of work

Good luck!
Nevo
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1,176 posts
Joined November 2015
Topic Starter
Nevo

FoxyGrandpa wrote:

I'm bored, and i have my own set of this song

So i guess i could give some good advice for the last diff.

  • [Style~]
    General

    Hitsounds are way too loud, adjust accordingly to the song.

    IDK what character the white is supposed to represent, if it's Kano just make it gray. Also you should add a purple color for Kido

    Your version has the song as (T.V. Size) the majority of Daze sets with a TV size are under (short ver.)

    Mods
  1. 00:01:507 (4,5,1) - Shorten 1 to 00:01:810 -
  2. 00:02:113 (2) - Delete this
  3. 00:02:795 - Add a note
  4. 00:05:219 - ^
  5. 00:06:053 (3) - Get rid of the repeat and drag it to 00:06:204 -
  6. 00:08:022 (8) - NC
  7. 00:11:431 (7,1) - Fix the spacing, not consistent with the stream.
  8. 00:15:295 (1,1) - Try to express this more, it's a very high point in the song, and right now it feels like it doesn't capture that intensity.
  9. 00:16:659 (1) - Nothing on this note.
  10. 00:18:174 (1) - Delete the NC
  11. 00:20:295 (2,3,4,5) - It's a cool pattern, but the spacing does not need to be this big in the verse.
  12. 00:20:901 (6,1) - Pause feels very awkward.
  13. 00:21:659 (2) - NC again here, change in pitch.
  14. 00:27:416 (1) - Get rid of the Sliderslide hitsound for this, only hitsound the head and the tail for whistle sliders.
  15. 00:43:022 (1,1,1) - Same for these, with my skin it just sounds annoying .-.
  16. 00:49:083 (1) - ^
  17. 00:58:022 (2,3) - Fix the spacing, really inconsistant.
  18. 01:03:931 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - NC on the start of each of these triplets and space them more, this is literally the highest point in the song so, you need to really capture that intensity with it.
  19. 01:08:022 (3,4,5,6,7) - Holy jump in spacing, please fix this >_>
  20. 01:25:446 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - This isn't Genryuu Kaiko, and you're not hollow wings. The change in feel is a lot more drastic than the verse to chorus, Please change this into something that's not, so intense.
Alright, thats all from me. Theres a lot of flow / spacing issues that I didn't mention. I think you need to go back and maybe look at what other daze maps have done (im not saying mine) if you don't really know what to map. This could use a lot of work

Good luck!
The end sliders where basically a joke I was waiting for someone to mention them lol. I'll start mapping this thing seriously now :D
jschlatt stan
545 posts
Joined July 2015
jschlatt stan
Opinion: (out of 6 people)

1. The double taps in the beginning in the Insane difficulty is kind of overdoing it. Try to only have a few double taps after the sliders as it makes it much more difficult to play. ;)
2. 00:05:125 - slider should be one arrow then, a circle at 00:05:371 - after then keep the slider at 00:05:446 - keep it the same. As that would make it a much harder difficulty :D
3. Add a circle at 00:06:507 (7) - to raise the difficulty level :!:
4. 00:08:999 - Add a note here to raise the diff level :?:
5. Add a note at 00:16:659 (1) - :lol: 8-) ;) :D :)

That's all (for now)


P.S (maybe kudosu?)
jschlatt stan
545 posts
Joined July 2015
jschlatt stan
Opinion for style diff this time
1. Remove note form here 00:02:946 -
2. Remove note from here 00:04:159 -
3. Remove note from here 00:05:371 -
4. Add note here 00:06:507 -
5. Add note here 00:09:007 -
6. Remove the note on this beat 00:11:431 -
7. Add a note here 00:13:856 -
8. Add a note here 00:16:659 (5) -
9. Add a note here 00:21:128 -
10. Add a note here 00:25:977 -
11. Add a note here 00:30:825 (7) -
12. Add a note here 00:34:916 -
13. Add a note here 00:35:371 -
14. Add a note here 00:38:098 -


That's all! (for now)


(maybe some kudosu?) Thanks! -KazutoNotxap :) :D ;) :lol: :oops: :P :!: :?:
Shira
1,094 posts
Joined January 2015
Shira

KazutoNotxap wrote:

Opinion: (out of 6 people)

1. The double taps in the beginning in the Insane difficulty is kind of overdoing it. Try to only have a few double taps after the sliders as it makes it much more difficult to play. ;) i played it a while didnt find anything difficult ;; nice to have a challenge anyways
2. 00:05:125 - slider should be one arrow then, a circle at 00:05:371 - after then keep the slider at 00:05:446 - keep it the same. As that would make it a much harder difficulty :D no tank u i like it nice and simple
3. Add a circle at 00:06:507 (7) - to raise the difficulty level :!: its a slider
4. 00:08:999 - Add a note here to raise the diff level :?: the doubles already make it hard as it is .~.
5. Add a note at 00:16:659 (1) - :lol: 8-) ;) :D :) slider again

That's all (for now)


P.S (maybe kudosu?)
no change
thanks for mod !
_xyliac
816 posts
Joined February 2016
_xyliac
Short Mod before going to school
Kagerou:
  1. 00:06:962 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - spaced jumps here then there's this 00:09:537 (2,3,4) - with very small spacing even though they have the same intensity, perhaps space them more atleast?
  2. 01:03:932 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - this part is quite intense but the spacing doesn't reflect it, I mean I get that you're keeping the spacing low-key to highlight the spacing in the next bit but still
  3. 01:15:826 (8) - this beat doesn't represent anything in the background so why is this mapped? perhaps make 01:15:750 (7) - a kickslider?
  4. 01:22:795 (7) - ^
  5. 01:23:553 (4) - ^
welp that's about it uwu
Nevo
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Topic Starter
Nevo
@nextplay
01:02:568 - should be soething like https://i.imgur.com/RbfbRDI.jpg according to lasse

00:09:234 (1) - imo should be at like 00:09:083 to reflect the guitar
00:09:537 1/2 slider here would be cool so 00:09:537 is clickable
00:35:901 (1) - maybe change the flow direction here since the vast majority of the map flows in the same way
00:55:295 (1) - maybe change flow direction to give the map more variety
01:04:992 (1) - i would change flow here for the emphasis of the repeat chorus
00:18:628 (5) - note here for vocal maybe
00:19:234 (2) - note here for vocal also

i'll finish later
nextplay
976 posts
Joined December 2015
nextplay

Nevo wrote:

@nextplay
01:02:568 - should be soething like https://i.imgur.com/RbfbRDI.jpg according to lasse agree, way better now fixed

00:09:234 (1) - imo should be at like 00:09:083 to reflect the guitar But the stronger Guitar sound is at the downbeat even if it starts at the ed tick already I'd also rather keep it for consistency
00:09:537 1/2 slider here would be cool so 00:09:537 is clickable Keep it for consistency
00:35:901 (1) - maybe change the flow direction here since the vast majority of the map flows in the same way I think I fixed it while I did a lot of changes
00:55:295 (1) - maybe change flow direction to give the map more variety ^
01:04:992 (1) - i would change flow here for the emphasis of the repeat chorus ^
00:18:628 (5) - note here for vocal maybe remapped
00:19:234 (2) - note here for vocal also ^

i'll finish later /shrug
Namki
1,281 posts
Joined November 2014
Namki
where do I hype, help me
Mir
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Mir
here we go sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssup gamers

Video offset:
Next's Normal: -739
Nao's Hard: 0
Yukiyo's Insane: -739
Kagerou: -739

Difficulties end time is not consistent:
01:27:871 - Next's Normal
01:28:628 - Nao's Hard
01:28:477 - Yukiyo's Insane
01:27:871 - Kagerou

this is a problem because you only mapped 1 diff - __ -

top

first couple seconds -> remap
00:23:477 (6,3) - overlap is ew
00:26:053 (1,2,3) - move 2 to the right a bit
01:27:871 (5) - slow slider might fit nice here

general issues: you mapped in hexgrid, please remap the entire map please thanks nevo ily nevo thanks in all seriousness though can you make sliders like 00:18:780 (1) - have more emphasis than they currently do because they have finishes+downbeat +bass yet feel exactly the same as stuff like 00:19:386 (4) - which obviously is less intense :(

also polish your hexgrid

00:33:553 - silence these?

insane
00:31:356 (2,3,4,5,1) - syncopation is on 5, so if you stack 5 with 1 and rearrange like this https://puu.sh/B2ZGh/ce7f9b6e73.png maybe it can work
00:54:992 (2) - i think extending this to 3/4 would have more emphasis and the bass is rly drawn out here too. the 1 feels really weak with how it is currently so at least promoting alternating a little would be a nice improvement

hard
00:11:280 (3,4) - yo dude this stack

normal
00:20:446 (2) - could b a circle cuz this chain is a little :blobsweat:
00:24:840 (1) - could separate this into 2 circles so that the chain is broken up again: https://puu.sh/B2ZR7/8b8bb96bd7.png seems more reasonable
00:31:962 (2,3) - 00:17:416 (2,3) - i'd keep these rhythms consistent and map to the red tick like 00:17:416 (2,3) - since it's obviously more syncopated
00:57:416 (6) - circle too, needs less 1/2 consecutive stuff
01:26:659 (5) - move this 2 px left for a nicer pentagon

yea.
Nevo
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Topic Starter
Nevo
no
Yukiyo
425 posts
Joined June 2014
Yukiyo
applied 2nd suggestion
Nevo
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Topic Starter
Nevo
replying for nao
its my style no change reported for toxic behaviour

jk i fixed it :3c
nextplay
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nextplay

Mir wrote:

here we go sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssup gamers sup fellow gaymer

Video offset:
Next's Normal: -739
Nao's Hard: 0
Yukiyo's Insane: -739
Kagerou: -739

Difficulties end time is not consistent:
01:27:871 - Next's Normal
01:28:628 - Nao's Hard
01:28:477 - Yukiyo's Insane
01:27:871 - Kagerou

this is a problem because you only mapped 1 diff - __ -

normal
00:20:446 (2) - could b a circle cuz this chain is a little :blobsweat: sure
00:24:840 (1) - could separate this into 2 circles so that the chain is broken up again: https://puu.sh/B2ZR7/8b8bb96bd7.png seems more reasonable Currently the Chain seems fine to me but to shorten it a bit I changed the 1/2 slider into 2 circles I'd also keep the chain because I'm following the vocals
00:31:962 (2,3) - 00:17:416 (2,3) - i'd keep these rhythms consistent and map to the red tick like 00:17:416 (2,3) - since it's obviously more syncopated fixed
00:57:416 (6) - circle too, needs less 1/2 consecutive stuff ok
01:26:659 (5) - move this 2 px left for a nicer pentagon did

yea.

np for shooting the stars btw
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nextplay
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Sorry for Double Post but can you add My Angel Kanan into the Tags because I ranked Maps with that name
Mir
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00:39:386 (5) - nc

also nao still has more drain than you...

edit:
normal: 00:47:113 (5) - might wanna 1/2 slider to be consistent w/ how you followed vocals at 00:45:598 (1,2) - ?
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rechecked and it LOOKS fine on my end, bubbled :psy:
Namki
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Namki
some objects lack hitsounds.

in kagerou diff:
  1. 00:18:174 - /00:19:386 - /00:23:022 - etc. due to vocals and the fact that you're mapping them makes this give not enough feedback as well as sounds kinda odd bc hses at sliderends sound more prominent than at sliderheads but vocals here are prioritized over instrumentals. I really recommend you to place something on these, maybe whistle, maybe normal sampleset, whatever you find more appropriate here.
  2. Same goes to the Insane and Hard.
[Nao's Hard]
  1. 00:26:053 (1) - what's the point making this NCed? It doesn't help player to read that as well as doesn't please visuals. It rather goes random. Like, you have kind of the same situation here 00:21:204 (5) - but didn't NC it.
  2. 00:54:840 (1) - there's like new stanza right here 00:54:992 - and it's super prominent and important. Maybe try a reverse to catch both 00:54:840 - and vocals at 00:54:992 - and 00:55:143 - . But I really want it to be clickable unless you have like very strong reason to keep this.
  3. 01:18:174 (1,2) - NC should be swapped as new kick stanza begins 01:18:325 - not 01:18:174 - . Or if u wanna follow guitar maybe try to unstack, sounds nicer to me. And this one 01:24:083 (5,1) - . Also it goes sorta inconsistently bc u ain't stacked new measures. Please, consider changing.
  4. 01:28:628 - I think making it ~25% would sound much better.

consider adding 25% volume line 01:28:628 - in Kagerou and 01:28:477 - in insane, sounds better imo
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https://pastebin.com/raw/UV8bKLi6
Nevo
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Namki wrote:

some objects lack hitsounds.

in kagerou diff:
  1. 00:18:174 - /00:19:386 - /00:23:022 - etc. due to vocals and the fact that you're mapping them makes this give not enough feedback as well as sounds kinda odd bc hses at sliderends sound more prominent than at sliderheads but vocals here are prioritized over instrumentals. I really recommend you to place something on these, maybe whistle, maybe normal sampleset, whatever you find more appropriate here.
  2. Same goes to the Insane and Hard.
[Nao's Hard]
  1. 00:26:053 (1) - what's the point making this NCed? It doesn't help player to read that as well as doesn't please visuals. It rather goes random. Like, you have kind of the same situation here 00:21:204 (5) - but didn't NC it.
  2. 00:54:840 (1) - there's like new stanza right here 00:54:992 - and it's super prominent and important. Maybe try a reverse to catch both 00:54:840 - and vocals at 00:54:992 - and 00:55:143 - . But I really want it to be clickable unless you have like very strong reason to keep this.
  3. 01:18:174 (1,2) - NC should be swapped as new kick stanza begins 01:18:325 - not 01:18:174 - . Or if u wanna follow guitar maybe try to unstack, sounds nicer to me. And this one 01:24:083 (5,1) - . Also it goes sorta inconsistently bc u ain't stacked new measures. Please, consider changing.
  4. 01:28:628 - I think making it ~25% would sound much better.

consider adding 25% volume line 01:28:628 - in Kagerou and 01:28:477 - in insane, sounds better imo
fixed all
(also i did apply mirs stuff me saying no was just meme)
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i miss mv1 a lot, also gj :3c
Lasse
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nao:
00:49:840 (1,2,3) - vocals and drums are 3/4, not 2/3 _-
it also ends up not being hitsounded cause there are no objects to copy from


hs:
what happened to your cymbals

00:01:810 - 00:03:022 - 00:04:234 - 00:05:446 - only has the first one hitsounded, when the others are basically the same thing
same in other parts 00:06:659 - has a soft finish, but then 00:11:507 - doesn't
00:30:901 - compared to 00:26:053 -
00:50:447 - 00:50:749 - 01:12:265 -
etc.

just seems really weird to only hs some but not hs the exact same ones when they are also mapped similarly

also your custom drum additions seem to be extremely quiet so even at 90% volume, parts like 00:52:871 - feel like they are missing drum hitsounding, while the hitnormals become obnoxiously loud

nao's kiai settings make more sense btw
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nao's hard
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Lasse
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Lasse
disqualified to fix ^
Nevo
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Nevo
fixed all
Lasse
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Lasse
01:12:265 - 00:16:356 - would still add finish on these, at least the second one rly needs it
other stuff seems alright from looking at top diff at least
Lasse
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Lasse
i think we managed to fix all of them now
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