Vulkin wrote:

Ok heres the mod
Im sorry if im not good at modding, im still a beginner somewhat lol

-Collab Inner Oni-
01:08:594 - d d to follow the background noise (I dont know the instrument names sorry ;W;) or delete 01:18:972 (77) - for consistency with 01:08:594 - No change to follow the 1/2+1/4 length like 01:04:215 -
03:16:783 (59,61) - delete and make 03:16:864 (59) - a k, sounds a bit better to follow the instruments (plus it would make 03:26:756 - have more consistency than before, although deleting 03:27:161 (128) - this too will make it with a perfect consistency, at least thats how i see it o-o) The instruments are in fact quite different in the two parts you mentioned. So the 1/4 pattern is intentionally varied for better playing experience.
03:58:053 - Make this kdkkd k D Hmm, I prefer following the changes of vocal pitch mainly.
04:16:459 (470,472) - Delete, sounds a bit weird with those notes imho I think keeping these notes could accompany the background instrument nicely.

Hope it helps! ^^ shootingstars4ya

IControl wrote:

Yo

Collab Inner Oni


01:28:459 (141) - delete? I'm also not sure what you are mapping to at this build part. 01:28:378 - has the highest pitch, so the upcoming note acts as extension of the sound for the build-up.


05:23:675 (104) - this could be k or 1/6 again like use used in other streams. I think d would result in a smoother flow here.


I know its not my map but I think it could be a bit harder by adding more notes to your streams and maybe more 1/6's which would be more fun to play imo

Good luck

_yu68 wrote:

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[Collab Inner Oni]

1. 01:43:540 (215) - delete or 01:43:702 - add don and 01:43:783 (217) - remove finisher? Unify the end point of the 1/4s with white line to make playing easier I would prefer keeping the last 1/4 pattern as long as possible while maintaining the note at 01:43:783 - as a big one for emphasis.
2. 03:46:783 (246) - delete or 03:46:945 - add don and 03:47:026 (248) - remove finisher? ^ same as ^
3. 03:58:540 (329) - change to kat? To make playing easier + Natural flow to 03:58:702 (330) - By comparing the background pitch among 03:58:378 (327,329) - , d d or k d would obey the pitch drop more imo.
4. 04:06:324 (394) - change to kat? ^ same as ^
5. 04:11:999 (440) - remove finisher? Express the difference between 04:12:648 (445) - and this note I see your point, but I think double K would result in a greater impact for the high-pitched vocals there.
6. 04:16:702 (475) - change to kat? To make playing easier + Natural flow to 04:16:864 (476) - same as 03:58:540 (329) -
7. 04:27:080 (560) - change to kat? ^ same as ^
8. 05:29:837 (155) - remove finisher? Express the difference between 05:30:486 (160) - and this note same as 04:11:999 (440) -
9. 05:34:540 (194) - change to kat? To make playing easier + Natural flow to 05:34:702 (195) - same as 03:58:540 (329) -

good luck!

_yu68 wrote:

hi~ mod from PM.

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[General]

• Please move greenline. Ensure volume change.

1. 00:11:351 - to 00:11:269 -
2. 00:53:188 - to 00:53:107 -
3. 03:06:810 - to 03:06:729 - I don't understand what do you mean but such greenlines are there to create an effect in volume.

[Collab Inner Oni]

1. 00:40:702 - add don? Follow vocals at the same time as piano sound following the ding ding to make the pattern more simple
2. 00:41:675 - add don? ^ same as above
3. 00:47:188 - add don? Same as 00:44:594 (81) -
4. 01:50:594 (43) - remove finisher? Express the difference between 01:51:242 (48) - and this note such finisher is enphasizing the high pitch of 01:50:594 - also is similar as 01:51:242 (48) -
5. 02:08:756 (183) - remove finisher? ^ same as above
6. 02:39:080 (391) - change to don? Equalize the amounts of don and kat + Emphasize 02:39:242 (392) - done
7. 04:53:513 (141) - remove finisher? Express the difference between 04:54:161 (146) - and this note same as 01:50:594 (43) -

good luck!

Chromoxx wrote:

quick post on sh1n1's parts before i recheck the thing i irced about with nardo

00:12:648 (6,7) - these things are the wrong way round, pitch is descending... change to kd done
00:17:837 - ddk d kkd would fit the pitches a lot better here imo that's true, nice suggestion
02:49:783 - at least add a k here to follow the drums, i would also suggest changing 02:49:621 (444) - to d though nope, I don't feel that it's really necessary cause if I decide to follow your suggestion, I should add note at 02:54:972 - for consistency and I can't hear something clickable.
02:47:351 (437,438) - 02:48:324 (440,441,442) - tbh i'd suggest changing these to d too to follow the drums, i know you're trying to follow that ding ding ding sound in the background but i feel like following the drums would build up better here, since you very clearly start out by following them from 02:44:756 - (here it isn't that much of a problem having the ks but in the next part that i mention it becomes a very clear problem which i also noticed when playing, so it should probably be changed for consistency with what i have to suggest next) You are right when you say that I'm following the ding ding sound and I also did at 00:34:378 - and 00:39:567 - because is more simple, but after internal discussion in game, I decided to follow xD
02:52:540 (449,450) - change d, the drums are very clear here, 02:53:513 (452,453,1) - dkdkd 1/2 very clearly audible in the drums, 02:54:648 - add d, 02:54:972 - maybe add k to follow this too ok

that's about it.... was the other thing i noticed apart from the stuff in nardo's part... there may be a need to discuss more if i'm still not happy with the changes nardo made, but it should probably be fine from here... note the stuff i mentioned here isn't just minor suggestions but pretty serious stuff that bugged me even when playing and should definitely be fixed imo

Chromoxx wrote:

quick recheck, the thing in nardo's part seems fine to me now. Not what i would have done but it at least is natural to play now, a decent solution to the problem while still keeping Nardo's basic idea

00:23:026 (28,29,30,31,32,33) - you forgot to change these, since they are the same as before basically
02:49:621 - about the thing here, i still think it should be dkd to follow the drums properly and emphasize 02:49:945 (445) - more, you don't need to keep consistency with 02:54:972 - since it's a different setup in general but if you wanted to you could also add a d here.
02:53:513 (452,453,454) - you said you applied this suggestion, but you didn't turn this into the dkdkd to follow the drums properly, the k at 02:53:837 (453) - stands out since there's a low drum hit here

should be it i guess, since you wanted to ask me something about the streams let's irc when you're online

Sotarks wrote:

nice bg

yeah , I feel that this bg is perfect for this song, also ctb and std ranked versions are using it. I want it too

1. 00:34:378 - make the volume lower here? the ticking and piano sounds is weak. maybe make it 25%, then 40% again at 00:37:621 -
2. 04:05:188 - hmm why cut the kiai here? while 02:01:945 - here is not. maybe make agreement between you two

1. 02:00:648 - d is more suitable for the drum here imo
2. 02:21:567 ~ make longer pattern here? it would make the end of kiai more intense. maybe try ddkdkdkkddk-k-d (1/4 snapping)
3. 02:33:810 - consider to change to d? will follow the drum and wind instrument more closely.
4. 02:41:351 (1,2,3) - you might want to change to ddk instead to emphasis piano sound at third note
5. 02:43:621 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - how about change to ddk-d-kdkkd? this will follow the drum more closely imo
   >> on side note i wouldn't complaint if you make 1/6 dddk at 02:43:296 - and 02:43:621 - lol
6. 05:03:567 - same as 02:00:648

1. 03:15:729 - add d? different than 01:12:486 - , there is drum sound there. might be good to add the pace
2. 03:10:540 - and 03:20:918 - might want to add k because of ^

Volta wrote:

yahallo~ yahallo~~ :3

[General]

1. 00:34:378 - make the volume lower here? the ticking and piano sounds is weak. maybe make it 25%, then 40% again at 00:37:621 - that's true, fixed
2. 04:05:188 - hmm why cut the kiai here? while 02:01:945 - here is not. maybe make agreement between you two Added break in my section cause I feel that 02:03:242 - need a bit of emphasis, also I don't remenber what I didn't cut kiai at this part if I did timing points for the whole diff xd

[Collab]
> Sh1n1

1. 02:00:648 - d is more suitable for the drum here imo orz my bad, also I found some consistencies with my previous patterns, fixed
2. 02:21:567 ~ make longer pattern here? it would make the end of kiai more intense. maybe try ddkdkdkkddk-k-d (1/4 snapping) ohh, I really like it so much <3 also I added some changes ad the last notes, for example 02:22:540 - is d and 02:22:702 - changed to K, I hope you like it.
3. 02:33:810 - consider to change to d? will follow the drum and wind instrument more closely. wow nice catch, fixed
4. 02:41:351 (1,2,3) - you might want to change to ddk instead to emphasis piano sound at third note I wanna add more enphasis on guitar (idk if it's guitar but sounds like that xD) as I did on 02:41:026 (408,409,410,411,412,413) -, also feels like a mirrored pattern with such notes.
5. 02:43:621 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - how about change to ddk-d-kdkkd? this will follow the drum more closely imo you are right, the transition between notes is more natural, also 02:43:621 (427,428,429) - as ddk for the reason mentioned above
   >> on side note i wouldn't complaint if you make 1/6 dddk at 02:43:296 - and 02:43:621 - lol mmm they are not at all bad but I prefer to keep in 1/4 for the reason mentioned above.
6. 05:03:567 - same as 02:00:648 Consistency yay, you understand me <3

not much to say. really nice map. you may call me back~

Volta wrote:

yahallo~ hi~

[Collab]> Nardo

1. 03:15:729 - add d? different than 01:12:486 - , there is drum sound there. might be good to add the pace fixed
2. 03:10:540 - and 03:20:918 - might want to add k because of ^ No change at these spots as there is no distinct sound to map with.

not much to say. really nice map. you may call me back~

1. 02:54:810 - this note seems a bit out of place because you've been following the drum previously and the k should land on 02:54:972 - instead, how about you move this note, use a finish on 02:55:134 - and just let the spinner start later, eg. on 02:57:729 - for the high sound that ends at 02:59:675 - as well? Would work better for the drums imo.
2. I feel like the 1/6 should start on 04:31:945 - instead of 04:31:783 - because the sound this is mapped to gets stronger at 04:31:945 - , not at 04:31:783 - .
3. I think you should better remove 04:47:026 (95,96) - these two like you did previously, I'm not a fan of the vocal emphasis here. If you really want to make this part stand out I think you could just do something with the instruments, like make 04:47:675 - K and add a note on 04:47:837 - .
4. The second half of the kiai feels stronger if you compare the sections of 01:50:269 (42,43,44,45,46,47,48) - and 02:08:432 (182,183,184,185,186,187,188) - . How about changing 02:08:432 - to D and adding a d on 02:08:594 - ? The beats are much stronger, so I think it would sound nice to have a difference here. Similar at 04:11:675 - and 05:29:513 - (change these to D and add d on the red tick after these notes like this.
5. I don't think it's good to start off the stream at 04:45:486 - with 4x k, I feel like instruments get more intense at 04:45:729 - , how about you try something like this, cursor on 04:45:405 - ?
6. 01:13:134 - the dkd at the end of this stream feels off because you let it end with d on a strong clap, how about you remove 01:13:540 - and change 01:13:621 - to k for following the instrument better? You could also add a d on 01:23:918 -, I think it fits better to have the longer pattern later for a better build-up.

snowball112 wrote:

Heya, recheck time.

1. 02:54:810 - this note seems a bit out of place because you've been following the drum previously and the k should land on 02:54:972 - instead, how about you move this note, use a finish on 02:55:134 - and just let the spinner start later, eg. on 02:57:729 - for the high sound that ends at 02:59:675 - as well? Would work better for the drums imo. well my mapping style is always based on consistency and spin is keeping consistency with 03:00:324 (1) -, and because I won't add a finish at 02:55:134 - I feel that skiping 02:54:972 - will add more emphasis to cymbal followed with spinner
2. I think you should better remove 04:47:026 (95,96) - these two like you did previously, I'm not a fan of the vocal emphasis here. If you really want to make this part stand out I think you could just do something with the instruments, like make 04:47:675 - K and add a note on 04:47:837 - . Removed such notes
3. The second half of the kiai feels stronger if you compare the sections of 01:50:269 (42,43,44,45,46,47,48) - and 02:08:432 (182,183,184,185,186,187,188) - . How about changing 02:08:432 - to D and adding a d on 02:08:594 - ? The beats are much stronger, so I think it would sound nice to have a difference here. Similar at 04:11:675 - and 05:29:513 - (change these to D and add d on the red tick after these notes like this. nope, first of all cause sounds bad and second (the real reason) cause I'm adding an extra enphasis to vocals, if you take a look to the high vocal pitches like 01:50:269 - 01:51:242 - 01:52:864 - 01:55:459 - etc, I'm adding a break to add more order, also I preer consistency tbh uwu.
4. I don't think it's good to start off the stream at 04:45:486 - with 4x k, I feel like instruments get more intense at 04:45:729 - , how about you try something like this, cursor on 04:45:405 - ? Sounds good, changed

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Thank you very much snowball Waiting for Nardo senpai

snowball112 wrote:

Heya, recheck time.

1. I feel like the 1/6 should start on 04:31:945 - instead of 04:31:783 - because the sound this is mapped to gets stronger at 04:31:945 - , not at 04:31:783 - . Hmm, I think the current position is also fine since the rhythm twitch occurs at 04:31:783 -
2. The second half of the kiai feels stronger if you compare the sections of 01:50:269 (42,43,44,45,46,47,48) - and 02:08:432 (182,183,184,185,186,187,188) - . How about changing 02:08:432 - to D and adding a d on 02:08:594 - ? The beats are much stronger, so I think it would sound nice to have a difference here. Similar at 04:11:675 - and 05:29:513 - (change these to D and add d on the red tick after these notes like this. Retained for vocal emphasis.
3. 01:13:134 - the dkd at the end of this stream feels off because you let it end with d on a strong clap, how about you remove 01:13:540 - and change 01:13:621 - to k for following the instrument better? You could also add a d on 01:23:918 -, I think it fits better to have the longer pattern later for a better build-up. The variation between 01:13:621 and 01:23:999 - is intentional as the flow of music is different. Keeping this would make the increase in note density at 03:17:026 and 03:27:161 - more intuitive as well.

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Xinely wrote:

Congrats jean baka :3~

ajeemaniz wrote:

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