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mercury2004
STAR~
The second song Alicemagic Blasterhead remix. Some slider timing doesn't same in the original one
00:56:285 (4) - slider should end here 00:56:646
00:59:899 (3) - end here 00:59:261
01:01:164 (2) - This mid slider should be here 01:01:345 end here 01:01:526
01:15:803 (1) - end here 01:15:165

SB you should resize to 640*480 when you add it yo your sb it will perfectly same size as original.
ET sc2
:D I support you and your beatmap.
EBAWER123

-Lennox- wrote:

Why the fucking hell the last map? IT'S A TAG4 MAP YOU KNOW?
Don't be mad just because you can't play maps which are harder than normal. And MOST approved/unranked maps are much more fun to play than ranked.
Topic Starter
[Dellirium]
Finally I have a time to answer.

Blue Dragon wrote:

[Dellirium] wrote:

I need slider speed to be exactly the same as in the original. There is no other way to do it, so I change BPM.
Take a look at Natteke's Stream Compilation, he did it the same way as well.

Or do you think I need to set equal speed for all the sliders and broke all the singularity of each section?
If it's done this way there will be no sense in this compilation at all.
Natteke edited slider multiplier, not BPM.
Here's the thing: I need to use the multiplier more than 2 in some cases, but I can't set it. What should I do then?

Anyway, why does it matter? I need only offset of the first note, and then I do only Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V. I need BPM only for slider speed. Or I just don't get something?

-libili wrote:

you really failed in mapping this map
Oh, I hear it from the person, who confuses BPM and bitrate of a song.

-Lennox- wrote:

Why the fucking hell the last map? IT'S A TAG4 MAP YOU KNOW?
I'm thinking about reducing the difficulty of this section. But unless rockleejkooo can pass it I think this section is fine. If he can pass it, Asians will certainly do it.

Emaal wrote:

TIMING SEEMS OFF IN SOME OF THE MAPS. GET A PRO TO CHECK IT.
I hope Blue Dragon will help me ^ᴥ^
But I need some time now to have that list of corrections done before asking him what to do next.
ziin
>I need slider speed to be exactly the same as in the original. There is no other way to do it, so I change BPM.
I know you have a lot to do, but this is how you should do the timing:
Jumper:
BPM 130
Velocity 1.20
Tick 2
Alicemagic:
BPM 166
Velocity 1.80
Tick 0.5
...
Rainbow Tylenol:
BPM 135
Velocity 3.4
Tick 4

Put it all in a spreadsheet so you know how fast everything actually is. I don't think you can keep the same tick rates throughout the map, so you'll probably have to bump the 0.5 ticks up to 1.0 (where they should be anyway). Alternatively, you can "hack" the timing sections to go above or below the normal limits by editing the osu file. In order to make things simple, Use slider velocity and tick rate 1.0, then multiply the song's original tick rate by the BPM and divide into the song's original velocity, then use a green timing section after the new BPM to change into the new slider speed.

For example:
Jumper:
BPM 260
Velocity 0.6x
Alicemagic:
BPM 83
Velocity 3.6x
Rainbow Tylenol:
BPM 540
Velocity 0.85x

Now, you can't input 3.6x slider speed into the editor, but if you open the .osu file, you can change the timing section.

Here's the timing format:
Time, 60000/BPM, Meter, Sound Type, Custom Sound, Volume, Red Section, kiai

Here's an example of an uninherited section
13723,279.06976744186,4,1,0,79,1,0
Note that 60000/215 BPM= ~279 ms per beat

And an uninherited
14211,-50,4,1,0,100,0,0
the "-50" is 2x. "-100" is 1x. "-133.33" is 0.75x. This time it's the negative inverse times 100. So 3.6x is -27.7777...

I think the most important part right now is getting the timing correct. Don't worry about the offsets JUST yet, get them to a general area, and someone can tweak it later.

If you do half the work for me, I'll do half the work for you though. Give me the BPM, Tick rate, and slider velocity of all the songs and I'll make you some timings. Shoot me a PM.
Farmer_Player
star
KLEINE
8-)
Gcode
i dont think this is all that good to be honest.

you couldve chosen better places to start certain maps.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
EDIT: Whoops. Wrong beatmap.
SapphireGhost
Your timing for NotShinta - Aha? is certainly wrong, which sucks because it's the best song in the compilation.
Raimon
Good job mylord!
you can put this map too: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/16084
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Nlce to see there's actually someone willing to measure the difficulty of jumps :)
nice beatmap as well, so star~
Luna
I don't completely agree with all of the song choices, but oh well... Still a nice map~ :D
I don't know if it has been mentioned before, but IMO you should credit the mapper of the difficulty you used instead of the creator of the mapset. For example, Strange Program was not mapped by happy30 but by Lesjuh (his diff). Quite a few of the maps are guest diffs, actually :D
Rue
Дико эпичная подборка, отличная работа :D С удовольствием звездую >_<
Netia
Star for you. Good Luck ;).
b4ss__old
quiero ver esta huea ready
gl
Verdisphena

b4ss_ wrote:

quiero ver esta huea ready
gl
Habla en ingles weon xd
Good luck with this mapthe fucking timing @_@
Bobo_old
Hmm this is fun :D
Hope the timing can get fixed at some point.

Why the Vincinity of Obscenity?
Streamy part f*cks me over... @_@

Star~

EDIT: Noticed a little mistake.

Airman bit (08:51:471 - 09:24:337)
In the title you've listed the creator of the map as Machi-San

Machi-San simply took this: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/24313 and re-uploaded in their name.
Creator of the map is Blue Dragon.
NekoMimiMode
nice
Mantis
SOSX
圖很強大 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
真有趣 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Boom-PA0
star真心不错~~~这个能FC了绝对是神了啊~~~~
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Kii-Sakurada
I love Jumps, The songs You've chosen are so perfect *O*
Anyway I get to the last map and, *fails* xD
Star ;)
TicClick

Пусть будет так, мне как раз джампать надо учиться.
Light Beam
this is a great map. but those unranked maps made them uhhhh ~
EBAWER123

Light Beam wrote:

this is a great map. but those unranked maps made them uhhhh ~
Yeah, a fun map... at least.
Topic Starter
[Dellirium]

Luna wrote:

I don't completely agree with all of the song choices, but oh well... Still a nice map~ :D
I don't know if it has been mentioned before, but IMO you should credit the mapper of the difficulty you used instead of the creator of the mapset. For example, Strange Program was not mapped by happy30 but by Lesjuh (his diff). Quite a few of the maps are guest diffs, actually :D
Thank you, I didn't mention that.

Why the Vincinity of Obscenity?
Streamy part f*cks me over... @_@
I'll replace that part by a jumpy one.

Verdisphena wrote:

Habla en ingles weon xd
Good luck with this mapthe fucking timing @_@
Working on it nao. I think I finish a new version in 1-2 days.

Airman bit (08:51:471 - 09:24:337)
In the title you've listed the creator of the map as Machi-San
woops
wmfchris
I'm afraid that I can't offer much help on timing but seems timing for Lemon Tree's still off.

star: here you go!

btw, no comments for DeltaMAX? lol
Topic Starter
[Dellirium]

wmfchris wrote:

I'm afraid that I can't offer much help on timing but seems timing for Lemon Tree's still off.

btw, no comments for DeltaMAX? lol
If it's off, tell me the right offset. correct now.

Comments are there, you probably can't see them because of new mp3, they appear too early than the section does
Aleks719
some timing checking in #modhelp
23:01 <[Dellirium]> : Er... Can somebody help me with offset in the map?
23:01 <Aleks719> : link?
23:01 *[Dellirium] is editing (Various Artists - osu! Jump Compilation)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/27470]
23:01 <Aleks719> : meh meh meh
23:02 <[Dellirium]> : well, I know
23:02 <[Dellirium]> : There are many sections in it
23:02 <Danzai> : oh yeah, that one got a major offset problem
23:02 <Danzai> : I was looking on it a few weeks ago, but gave up :P
23:02 <Aleks719> : I thought you found them already
23:02 <[Dellirium]> : I tried to fix it, but failed
23:03 <Aleks719> : main problem - deltamax?
23:03 <[Dellirium]> : tekkе helped with first 5 sections, but now he is busy
23:03 <[Dellirium]> : no, not delta
23:04 <Aleks719> : oh, i'll see
23:04 <[Dellirium]> : :<
23:08 <[Dellirium]> : How do you do it? I mean, this offset thing
23:08 <Aleks719> : too fast for me for offset checking by testing
23:09 <Aleks719> : 03:18:067 (1,1,1,...) -
23:09 <[Dellirium]> : Hmm... Poinsettia should be fine now
23:10 <Aleks719> : They are not snapped, yea?
23:10 <[Dellirium]> : ofc, just copied from original
23:10 <Aleks719> : i guess you missed bpm point
23:11 <Aleks719> : because bpm goes lower and lower
23:14 <[Dellirium]> : That's right, but since notes was just copied and not snapped, they still must have the right timing. I can
23:14 <[Dellirium]> : even copy patterns without right bpm, but they will fit
23:15 <[Dellirium]> : but in that case i'll get wrong slider speed
23:15 <[Dellirium]> : Anyway, only the whole section can have wrong offset
23:15 <Aleks719> : yes, but all object must be snapped
23:16 <Aleks719> : 207102 : imo, +15~+20ms
23:16 <[Dellirium]> : why? they have right timing anyway
23:17 <Aleks719> : http://puu.sh/5HSX
23:18 <[Dellirium]> : I know
23:20 <Aleks719> : 254332 : imo, -30ms
23:23 <[Dellirium]> : applied
23:23 <Aleks719> : 390869 : +40ms
23:24 <Aleks719> : 416259 : +10ms
23:27 <Aleks719> : 463574 : +15~+20ms
23:27 <Aleks719> : but not sure about 463574, hard to check for me
23:28 <[Dellirium]> : well, it sounds better now
23:29 <Aleks719> : 516599 : +20ms
23:31 <Aleks719> : 576854 : totally not sure in triis bpm. Info in storyboard says thab bpm is 177
23:31 <Aleks719> : http://puu.sh/5HVO
23:31 <Aleks719> : ^ your timing
23:32 <Aleks719> : I guess you missed timing section here
23:33 <[Dellirium]> : 177 bpm in NotShinta section, I thinks I made a mistake in SB, when type it in PS
23:33 <[Dellirium]> : Just forgot to change bpm there
23:34 <Aleks719> : 641215 : -25ms
23:35 <Aleks719> : Rechech a-ha section, as for me it sounds totally off
23:36 <[Dellirium]> : oh
23:36 <[Dellirium]> : I forgot to change bpm
23:37 <Aleks719> : yes
23:37 <Aleks719> : 670615 : offset + 15ms, also, imo, bpm is 142, not 142.04 here
23:38 <Elly-chan> : hi
23:38 <[Dellirium]> : I know, but the original beatmap has .04
23:38 <[Dellirium]> : hello
23:38 <Aleks719> : o/
23:39 <Aleks719> : Original is not ranked, bpm is off, imo
23:41 <Zerostarry> : hi :3
23:41 <Aleks719> : oh, that's all.

Bla bla bla, good luck, star~
Jenny
Everything until nightwish okay... POINSETTIA + SOAD - wuz?!^^
I'll redownload, maybe I just forgot^^
Topic Starter
[Dellirium]
If you forgot to update the mp3, you'll get a very bad timing even in first 5 sections.
You should redownload the song indeed.
Mismagius
Just some stuff:

This map is way better now with right timing. ~

On the Rainbow Dash part, could you put "Blue Dragon / ztrot" as Mapper? Because you chose his part too P:
You might need to get Airman part again because now it is actually hitsounded, also you might want to remove the "Not even approved" because it's bubbled #2 already.

Also -

12:33:962 (1) - Move this 1/4 earlier
12:38:340 (1) - Shouldn't this be 1,0x or something?
Topic Starter
[Dellirium]

Blue Dragon wrote:

Just some stuff:

This map is way better now with right timing. ~

On the Rainbow Dash part, could you put "Blue Dragon / ztrot" as Mapper? Because you chose his part too P:
You might need to get Airman part again because now it is actually hitsounded, also you might want to remove the "Not even approved" because it's bubbled #2 already.

Also -

12:33:962 (1) - Move this 1/4 earlier
12:38:340 (1) - Shouldn't this be 1,0x or something?
I'll fix it, but can't do full upload now. Done.

12:38:340 (1) - Shouldn't this be 1,0x or something?
1,90 = 1 in the original beatmap. But I checked that slider, it has 2x slider speed, so in my compilation it should be 3,90x. So there was a mistake.
ty.
TicClick
Короче, и подгонял, и просто назад по тикам сдвигал, чтобы с «сильной части» начиналось. Downbeat, или как там.
Жирные оффсеты = реснап.

  1. Alicemagic — 38269
  2. Lemon Tree — 82871 (BPM не трогай, да, ошибся вчера под вечер. Всё-таки .57)
  3. Jump Jump — 110169
  4. Amaranth — 141867
  5. Poinsettia — 152737 (маленький)
    1. 03:19:972 (1) - +10
    2. 03:20:373 (1) - +12
    3. 03:21:765 (1) - +13
    4. 03:22:695 (1) - 1/8 вперёд. Странные цифры, да
  6. System of a Down — исправь заметку, напиши 226, а не 230.
  7. Romantic Children — 225521
  8. Masterpiece — 252632
  9. Ладно, рискну Δmax проверить. Тут практически мелочёвка.
    1. 296565 —> 296561 (+4)
  10. Astrosexy — 303308
  11. Gold Dust — 343367 (копейки, +4 штоле). Заодно подправь в заметке, DJ вместо Dj.
  12. Fairy Tail Main Theme — 390095 (+4)
  13. Border of Extasy — 415385
  14. Emerald Sword — 437897
  15. StrangeProgram — 463723. Заметка: 215 вместо 210.
  16. Rainbow Dash Likes Girls — 486550
  17. Johnny B. Goode Homework Crisis — 515644
  18. Sticks & Stones — 544347
  19. Aha — 574821
  20. Rainbow Tylenol — 592060
  21. Reset — 615681
    1. 10:34:881 — здесь где-нибудь лучше выключить киай
  22. Can't Defeat Airman — 635798
  23. Shoot 'em Up — 670642
  24. Groundhog — 690515
На этом всё. Честно говоря, приклеить обратно на тики надо гораздо больше нот, потому как некоторые BPM нацело не делятся. Сползание микроскопическое, 2-4 мс, но реснапнуть всё равно придётся. Не знаю, вручную ли — никогда не игрался с несколькими красными секциями.
Farmer_old
this map now has very very strong timing problem, and some songs dont match the notes, u must change it.
Topic Starter
[Dellirium]

Farmer wrote:

this map now has very very strong timing problem, and some songs dont match the notes, u must change it.
Have you redownloaded the beatmap entirelly?
marshallracer
Question about the SB

SPOILER
Shouldn't the Rainbow Dash likes Girls Part's Title say "This section is 20% cooler" ?

Also :
12:38:340 (1) - this seems kinda broken, higher SV for this slider?
Topic Starter
[Dellirium]

marshall_racer wrote:

Question about the SB
Woops. I can make stupid mistakes sometimes.

Also :
12:38:340 (1) - this seems kinda broken, higher SV for this slider?
I checked it earlier, because BD saw it too:

Blue Dragon wrote:

Also -
12:38:340 (1) - Shouldn't this be 1,0x or something?
There is a fast slider in there.
marshallracer

[Dellirium] wrote:

I checked it earlier, because BD saw it too:

Blue Dragon wrote:

Also -
12:38:340 (1) - Shouldn't this be 1,0x or something?
There is a fast slider in there.
Sorry, haven't seen it :oops:
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