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Gareth Coker - The Spirit Tree (feat. Aeralie Brighton)

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Sakurauchi Riko
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Sakurauchi Riko
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sonntag, 4. September 2016 at 19:21:01

Artist: Gareth Coker
Title: The Spirit Tree (feat. Aeralie Brighton)
Source: Ori and the Blind Forest
Tags: Moon Studios
BPM: 110
Filesize: 2507kb
Play Time: 01:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Simple (1,32 stars, 66 notes)
  2. Spirit Tree (2,5 stars, 128 notes)
Download: Gareth Coker - The Spirit Tree (feat. Aeralie Brighton)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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#2 for ranked Beatmap!

Easy - by me
Spirit Tree - by me

Ori and the Blind Forest... what a wonderful game with one of the best soundtracks. Seriously the prettiest game ever!
Last edited by Sakurauchi Riko , edited 25 times in total.
Ashton
Ashton
Nm from my q

[Spirit Tree]
00:04:448 (1,2,3,4) - I think you should replace these notes so they flow better
00:08:812 (1,2,3) - blanekt 1 in 3 better
00:16:994 - Everything before here, the volume should be 20 or 10
00:24:085 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I'd just like to point out how AWESOME this flows!
00:42:630 (5,1) - somehow blanket these better?
01:24:085 (5) - nc to keep it consistant?


[Easy]
00:01:721 (2,1) - maybe more space between these? For an easy I think so.
00:06:084 (2,1) - ^
00:10:994 (3,1) - ^^
00:14:812 (3,1) - ^^^
00:34:448 (4,1) - overlap in easy is accaptable (imo) in the end of the song, but overlap Close to the middle seems a little off
01:09:357 (5,1) - ^



[General]
Nice map and good luck!
Sakurauchi Riko
1,579 posts
Joined January 2015
Topic Starter
Sakurauchi Riko

Whirl wrote:

Nm from my q

[Spirit Tree]
00:04:448 (1,2,3,4) - I think you should replace these notes so they flow better yea, they felt kinda awkwardly to follow, changed
00:08:812 (1,2,3) - blanekt 1 in 3 better huh, they are already blanket oo
00:16:994 - Everything before here, the volume should be 20 or 10 decreased volume to 25%
00:24:085 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I'd just like to point out how AWESOME this flows! :3
00:42:630 (5,1) - somehow blanket these better? they are already well blanket'd imo D:
01:24:085 (5) - nc to keep it consistant? o, Fixed.


[Easy]
00:01:721 (2,1) - maybe more space between these? For an easy I think so. i thought so too, but some spinners would be really short then (maybe too short). I'll consider that and wait for other opinions
00:06:084 (2,1) - ^
00:10:994 (3,1) - ^^
00:14:812 (3,1) - ^^^
00:34:448 (4,1) - overlap in easy is accaptable (imo) in the end of the song, but overlap Close to the middle seems a little off Easy has to be consistently snapped, so theres no solution to not overlap them (since its the only 1/2 spot)
01:09:357 (5,1) - ^ ^



[General]
Nice map and good luck!
Thanks for the mod! (:
Xgor
Elite Mapper
2,534 posts
Joined April 2009
Xgor
[General]
  1. I don't think kiai works that well with this song. I suggest you remove it.
  2. The drum whistles feels a bit too loud for a calm song like this, I think it sounds better if you remove the whistle (but keep the drum sample set)
  3. Not a big fan of these fast spinners tbh, I think they are a especally big problem on easy because many new players struggle with spinners and the map throws 4 at them at once. Maybe use sliders instead of keep them blank?
  4. Really don't like how the sliders look where the sliderstart and end touch each other. More of a personal pet peeve and it would force you to raise the slider speed (something I wouldn't mind seeing faster) but it might be something to think about. I would like you to change the ones like 01:09:903 (1) - on easy and 00:22:994 (4) - on Normal because they are just ugly because of that.
  5. Add "Moon Studios" to tags (Adding the platforms (Steam and Xbox one) and published (Microsoft) might be something too but I don't think it's as needed)
[Easy]
00:00:085 (1) - If you want it the slider to encircle the circle after it perfectly move it one grid to the right (grid 4)
00:04:448 (1) - ^ but to the right instead
00:34:448 (5) - I suggest you move the end point 3 grids right (grid 4). Then it lines up to the next beat.
00:40:994 (2,3) - Not lined up properly (It's just one grid off but looks kinda weird)

[Spirit Tree]
(I thought names like this was completly unrankible but checked the critera out and they are kinda ok now so nvm)
00:09:903 (3) - I don't like how the slider end goes into the slider itself. Looks pretty ugly.
00:27:357 (3) - I feel that this would look better if it was just a straight line because if the slider over it just makes it look weird, (and the end overlapping with the sider due to the wave)
00:31:448 (4) - This jump REALLY caught me offguard, Both because it's the only jump in the map and because it's quite a big one 2x so I though there was 1/1 to that one when it was 1/2. Make the jump smaller or just keep it normal like everything else.

Pretty nice and simple map. Also great to see that people still can map decent songs and not just noise.
Sakurauchi Riko
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Joined January 2015
Topic Starter
Sakurauchi Riko

Xgor wrote:

[General]
  1. I don't think kiai works that well with this song. I suggest you remove it. considering that and wait for other opinions cuz for me kiai makes sense to me
  2. The drum whistles feels a bit too loud for a calm song like this, I think it sounds better if you remove the whistle (but keep the drum sample set) nice suggestion, changed that
  3. Not a big fan of these fast spinners tbh, I think they are a especally big problem on easy because many new players struggle with spinners and the map throws 4 at them at once. Maybe use sliders instead of keep them blank? keeping the spinners in Spirit Tree in the kiai times (since imo it fits nicely and its smth different), removed the spinners in Easy at the beginning (i think you can just delete them (green timing lines removed too), it doesnt feel awkward if theres a whole measure space between 2 objects for me. also removed spinner in easy in the first kiai (added a circle where the spinner started and left a measure space again to the next object). Should be better now, good point! thanks :v
  4. Really don't like how the sliders look where the sliderstart and end touch each other. More of a personal pet peeve and it would force you to raise the slider speed (something I wouldn't mind seeing faster) but it might be something to think about. I would like you to change the ones like 01:09:903 (1) - on easy and 00:22:994 (4) - on Normal because they are just ugly because of that. that is very subjective and these sliders are my favorite tbh (therefore i used it in my previous mapset too, and nobody really complained about them). so ill definetly keep them
  5. Add "Moon Studios" to tags (Adding the platforms (Steam and Xbox one) and published (Microsoft) might be something too but I don't think it's as needed) okay, added now
[Easy]
00:00:085 (1) - If you want it the slider to encircle the circle after it perfectly move it one grid to the right (grid 4) polished blanket, should be accurate now
00:04:448 (1) - ^ but to the right instead same
00:34:448 (5) - I suggest you move the end point 3 grids right (grid 4). Then it lines up to the next beat. changed
00:40:994 (2,3) - Not lined up properly (It's just one grid off but looks kinda weird) fixed

[Spirit Tree]
(I thought names like this was completly unrankible but checked the critera out and they are kinda ok now so nvm)
00:09:903 (3) - I don't like how the slider end goes into the slider itself. Looks pretty ugly. looks fine tbh
00:27:357 (3) - I feel that this would look better if it was just a straight line because if the slider over it just makes it look weird, (and the end overlapping with the sider due to the wave) removed the overlap with 00:26:812 (2) -
00:31:448 (4) - This jump REALLY caught me offguard, Both because it's the only jump in the map and because it's quite a big one 2x so I though there was 1/1 to that one when it was 1/2. Make the jump smaller or just keep it normal like everything else. i can understand that, but the "big" jump fits quite well with the sound in the music. for now i see no decent solution to make the jumps smaller. I try to think about smth at the latest when an other modder mentions this.

Pretty nice and simple map. Also great to see that people still can map decent songs and not just noise.
Thank you very much for your mod! was a nice polishing

Edit: uhmm.. sorry for answering that late but i didint feel like mapping recently, so sorry! c;
C00L
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C00L
right :roll:
Check! - Means that it has been checked and nothing wrong has been found

[General]
  1. Add combo colours, I made some for you if you want take them, but make sure they are constant in all diffs i.e. the same across the full diff spread
  2. Edit: I looked at the post above about the kiai times, imo it should stay since it is technically the chorus and it does make sense musically to emphasise the chorus a bit
[Timing]
  1. Check!
[Hitsounds]
  1. 00:01:721 - you could add a bell sound here, would sound nice imo and for the rest of similar sounds :D

[Easy]
  1. 00:08:812 (1,2) - you could continue that slider note-blanket pattern that you done here 00:04:448 (1,2) - for consistency reasoning :D
  2. Btw you can't change SV in Easies and Normals :^) so you need to remap a couple of sections that contain SV changes :D
  3. 00:28:448 (4) - honestly for this and more beats that repeat here, you should do a 2/1 slider, it will sound so much better since there isnt really a sound at the 1/1 reverse to be in need of being emphasised
  4. 00:32:812 (3,4) - DS needs to be constant in Easy and Normal lolol, it needs to be the same DS at all times
[Spirit Tree]
  1. 00:29:266 (2) - could ctrl g for flow reasoning :^)
  2. 00:57:903 (2) - the slider end looks bad imo, try making it more circluar since mostly your sliders are really circular that just ruins it all imo :(
  3. 01:27:357 - don't start a spinner with such a strong sound, place a not the instead and start the spinner on the blue or red tick instead

[Final Words]

Ori and the Blind Forest is a fucking fantastic game, i loved playing it so much played it through twice xdxd, but about the map... There are fantastic blankets across the 2 diffs which i honor they are really nicely made, there isnt much to complain about the rhythm being wrong, since lets face it this isnt a complex song, but gj on this :D
Good Luck from me!
Sakurauchi Riko
1,579 posts
Joined January 2015
Topic Starter
Sakurauchi Riko

C00L wrote:

right :roll:
Check! - Means that it has been checked and nothing wrong has been found

[General]
  1. Add combo colours, I made some for you if you want take them, but make sure they are constant in all diffs i.e. the same across the full diff spread chnaged, thanks :>
  2. Edit: I looked at the post above about the kiai times, imo it should stay since it is technically the chorus and it does make sense musically to emphasise the chorus a bit thought so xd
[Timing]
  1. Check!
[Hitsounds]
  1. 00:01:721 - you could add a bell sound here, would sound nice imo and for the rest of similar sounds :D idk how to add custom hs lmao, think its okay how it is :D

[Easy]
  1. 00:08:812 (1,2) - you could continue that slider note-blanket pattern that you done here 00:04:448 (1,2) - for consistency reasoning :D i think its appropriate how it is currently. furthermore 00:00:085 (1,2,1,2) - are different from 00:08:812 (1,2) - if u listen carefully and have a look at timeline
  2. Btw you can't change SV in Easies and Normals :^) so you need to remap a couple of sections that contain SV changes :D i wait for other opinions, i want to get it ranked with sv changes! its my challenge!!! Kappa (but i find it kinda appropriate tbh, so im waiting if some1 says the same ill change xd)
  3. 00:28:448 (4) - honestly for this and more beats that repeat here, you should do a 2/1 slider, it will sound so much better since there isnt really a sound at the 1/1 reverse to be in need of being emphasised i see the issue, i hope i could fix it. for specific patterns it looks still fine with reverse sliders, but that one wasnt in a pattern so changed it
  4. 00:32:812 (3,4) - DS needs to be constant in Easy and Normal lolol, it needs to be the same DS at all times those 2 objects are stacked, that should be fine honestly
[Spirit Tree]
  1. 00:29:266 (2) - could ctrl g for flow reasoning :^) its more important 00:28:448 (1) - flows well into 00:29:266 (2) - , that'd be destroyed if i ctrl g it. furthermore there's much space between then, enough time to follow it with the cursor imo
  2. 00:57:903 (2) - the slider end looks bad imo, try making it more circluar since mostly your sliders are really circular that just ruins it all imo :( adjusted it, looks more circular now
  3. 01:27:357 - don't start a spinner with such a strong sound, place a not the instead and start the spinner on the blue or red tick instead i agree with that. added circle with a finsih hs and put the spinner at the following red tick

[Final Words]

Ori and the Blind Forest is a fucking fantastic game, i loved playing it so much played it through twice xdxd, but about the map... There are fantastic blankets across the 2 diffs which i honor they are really nicely made, there isnt much to complain about the rhythm being wrong, since lets face it this isnt a complex song, but gj on this :D osu! needs more calm songs which should be enjoyable :> but honestly just because it is such a simple song i dont know what to polish more, for me it looks very clean :D
Good Luck from me!
Thanks for your mod! there were some important things to change, thanks a lot c;
Myxo
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Myxo
2016-08-14 18:48 Desperate-kun: Hey :D
2016-08-14 18:48 Desperate-kun: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1041728 Gareth Coker - The Spirit Tree]
2016-08-14 18:48 Desperate-kun: echt coole map
2016-08-14 18:49 Phyloukz: Danke :3
2016-08-14 18:49 Desperate-kun: zeit für nen irc mod?
2016-08-14 18:49 Phyloukz: klar :D
2016-08-14 18:49 Desperate-kun: okay also ich finde die cs ist zu niedrig für das lied
2016-08-14 18:49 Desperate-kun: generell bei ruhigen songs ist kleinere cs viel cooler, imo
2016-08-14 18:50 Desperate-kun: die spirit tree diff könnte cs4 haben
2016-08-14 18:50 Desperate-kun: zumidnest
2016-08-14 18:50 Phyloukz: stimmt, sieht iwi auch besser aus
2016-08-14 18:50 Desperate-kun: und die Easy cs3
2016-08-14 18:50 Desperate-kun: ja :)
2016-08-14 18:50 Desperate-kun: es passt einfach bei so ruhigen songs gut
2016-08-14 18:51 Desperate-kun: weil die noten dann kleiner sind und damit 'eleganter'
2016-08-14 18:51 Desperate-kun: kp ist schwer zu erklären xD
2016-08-14 18:51 Phyloukz: stimmt, doch ich glaub cih weiß was du meinst :D
2016-08-14 18:51 Desperate-kun: okay
2016-08-14 18:51 Desperate-kun: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1041728 Gareth Coker - The Spirit Tree [Spirit Tree]]
2016-08-14 18:51 Desperate-kun: 00:17:539 (2,3) - minor: is das spacing hier mit absicht so groß? o:
2016-08-14 18:52 Phyloukz: ich wollte das sich 00:16:994 (1,2) - stacken
2016-08-14 18:52 Desperate-kun: ja aber kannst ja (2) bissl nach oben schieben
2016-08-14 18:53 Desperate-kun: bei der 1/1 gap spielt ja das spacing nich wirklich ne rolle
2016-08-14 18:53 Phyloukz: oh okay o: wusste ich noch gar nicht
2016-08-14 18:53 Desperate-kun: naja es kommt drauf an
2016-08-14 18:53 Phyloukz: okay habs gefixt
2016-08-14 18:53 Desperate-kun: aber ich meine, bei größeren gaps sieht man kaum nen unterschied
2016-08-14 18:53 Desperate-kun: bei kleineren schon
2016-08-14 18:54 Desperate-kun: 00:30:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - hmm irgendwas stört mich hier
2016-08-14 18:54 Phyloukz: stimmt, bei dem 1/2 hat mans schon gemerkt
2016-08-14 18:54 Desperate-kun: der jump von der (3) zur (4) passt aber irgendwie ist das patterning seltsam
2016-08-14 18:55 Phyloukz: aber an sich kann man da ein spacing inrease machen oder?
2016-08-14 18:55 Phyloukz: increase*
2016-08-14 18:55 Desperate-kun: ja schon ich find bloß den pattern komisch
2016-08-14 18:55 Desperate-kun: warte mal
2016-08-14 18:55 Desperate-kun: mir fällt grad keine suggestion ein xD
2016-08-14 18:56 Phyloukz: ich glaub das ist bisschen weil die circles circular sind und der slider straight
2016-08-14 18:56 Desperate-kun: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5845372
2016-08-14 18:57 Desperate-kun: jaaaa ich hab den pattern komplett umgebaut weil mir nichts einfiel xD
2016-08-14 18:57 Desperate-kun: hmm ne also wenns dir nich gefällt dann lass es halt so :b
2016-08-14 18:57 Phyloukz: moment
2016-08-14 18:58 Phyloukz: http://puu.sh/qB827/1c39bca81d.jpg
2016-08-14 18:58 Phyloukz: so hätte ich gedacht vllt
2016-08-14 18:58 Desperate-kun: joa passt ^^
2016-08-14 18:59 Desperate-kun: joa ansonsten ist patterning und rhythm usw gut
2016-08-14 18:59 Desperate-kun: hitsounding ist noch ein bisschen ehh
2016-08-14 18:59 Desperate-kun: ich find die drum whistles passen nicht wirklich rein, die sind zu hart für den song
2016-08-14 19:00 Phyloukz: wollte halt bisschen was rein brinegn, damit es sich nicht so langweilig anhört
2016-08-14 19:00 Desperate-kun: hmm also warte
2016-08-14 19:00 Desperate-kun: erstmal die hitsound volume, 60&
2016-08-14 19:00 Desperate-kun: *60%
2016-08-14 19:00 Desperate-kun: ist zu laut imo
2016-08-14 19:00 Desperate-kun: 40 ist besser
2016-08-14 19:00 Phyloukz: okay
2016-08-14 19:01 Desperate-kun: 00:17:539 - der finish passt besser hier, und dafür 00:16:994 - da die whistle imo
2016-08-14 19:01 Phyloukz: oh ja
2016-08-14 19:01 Phyloukz: viel besser
2016-08-14 19:02 Desperate-kun: 01:01:175 - finish oder whistle hier
2016-08-14 19:03 Phyloukz: oh, gefixt
2016-08-14 19:03 Desperate-kun: vlt noch ne whistle hier? 01:24:630 - damit diese lange circle kette nicht so unhitsounded ist
2016-08-14 19:04 Desperate-kun: und da ist im hintergrund so ein sound wo die whistle passt
2016-08-14 19:04 Phyloukz: oh ja
2016-08-14 19:04 Phyloukz: passt gut
2016-08-14 19:05 Desperate-kun: 00:54:630 (3) - NC? weil du sonst auch immer jeden takt NCd hast
2016-08-14 19:05 Desperate-kun: 01:06:357 (2) - und hier auch
2016-08-14 19:05 Desperate-kun: 01:12:085 (3) -
2016-08-14 19:05 Desperate-kun: 01:14:266 (5) -
2016-08-14 19:06 Desperate-kun: kannst sie auch lassen wenn dir dann die combos zu kurz werden aber der letzte sollte schon imo
2016-08-14 19:07 Phyloukz: ich mach nur den letzten, 2er combo is meh
2016-08-14 19:07 Desperate-kun: jo
2016-08-14 19:07 Phyloukz: und 01:06:357 (2) - auch
2016-08-14 19:07 Desperate-kun: jo
2016-08-14 19:07 Desperate-kun: okay die Easy
2016-08-14 19:08 Desperate-kun: 00:10:994 - is da was o.o
2016-08-14 19:08 Desperate-kun: weil du hier den circle mapped hast und in den ganzen anderen takten davor und danach nicht
2016-08-14 19:08 Desperate-kun: vielleicht hör ich auch nur was nich xD
2016-08-14 19:09 Phyloukz: ja o:
2016-08-14 19:09 Phyloukz: ganz leise aber
2016-08-14 19:09 Desperate-kun: aber ich glaube da ist nur ein ganz schwacher sound der auch in den anderen takten da ist
2016-08-14 19:09 Desperate-kun: hmm
2016-08-14 19:09 Phyloukz: in den beiden davor hör ich den nicht D:
2016-08-14 19:09 Desperate-kun: na gut dann lass so xD
2016-08-14 19:10 Phyloukz: xD
2016-08-14 19:10 Desperate-kun: ich find übrigens als diffnamen Easy doof
2016-08-14 19:10 Desperate-kun: weil irgendwie in nem 2 diff set
2016-08-14 19:10 Desperate-kun: wenn die highest diff nen custom name hat
2016-08-14 19:10 Desperate-kun: wirkt das komisch :(
2016-08-14 19:10 Desperate-kun: ich wäre ja für 'Simple' oder sowas
2016-08-14 19:11 Phyloukz: ja finde ich auch tbh xD
2016-08-14 19:11 Phyloukz: hmm
2016-08-14 19:11 Desperate-kun: hab ich hier auch so gemacht
2016-08-14 19:11 Desperate-kun: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1030052 Nobuo Uematsu - Zanarkand nite]
2016-08-14 19:11 Desperate-kun: nach stundenlangem rumrätseln xD
2016-08-14 19:11 Desperate-kun: ist im prinzip genau die gleiche mapset struktur lol
2016-08-14 19:12 Desperate-kun: naja musst du wissen
2016-08-14 19:12 Phyloukz: oh
2016-08-14 19:12 Phyloukz: ich wollte die ja eig modden
2016-08-14 19:12 Phyloukz: xD
2016-08-14 19:12 Phyloukz: rip me
2016-08-14 19:12 Desperate-kun: ja is jetzt ranked lol
2016-08-14 19:12 Desperate-kun: scheiß drauf xD
2016-08-14 19:12 Phyloukz: ik
2016-08-14 19:12 Phyloukz: xD
2016-08-14 19:12 Phyloukz: haha
2016-08-14 19:12 Desperate-kun: hab eh zu viele modder gesucht
2016-08-14 19:13 Desperate-kun: Easy find ich an sich gut
2016-08-14 19:13 Desperate-kun: bis auf 2 slidershapes
2016-08-14 19:13 Desperate-kun: 00:52:448 (1) -
2016-08-14 19:13 Desperate-kun: 01:09:903 (1) -
2016-08-14 19:13 Desperate-kun: ich mag ja deinen slider stil aber die sind zu krass für Easy, vor allem der 2.
2016-08-14 19:13 Desperate-kun: den 1. würde ich etwas 'nerfen' also den winkel etwas vergrößern
2016-08-14 19:13 Desperate-kun: und den 2. replacen mit was wo sich nicht head und tail berühren
2016-08-14 19:14 Phyloukz: ja stimmt irgendwie, sieht auch nicht so super mit 01:11:539 (2) - in kombination aus
2016-08-14 19:14 Desperate-kun: achja und hitsound rüberkopieren von der Normal am besten
2016-08-14 19:14 Phyloukz: okay change ich
2016-08-14 19:14 Desperate-kun: weil hier paar whistles fehlen glaub ich
2016-08-14 19:14 Phyloukz: jo
2016-08-14 19:14 Desperate-kun: und auch wegen volume usw
2016-08-14 19:14 Desperate-kun: joa und das wärs xD
2016-08-14 19:14 Phyloukz: okay, super Danke dir :D
2016-08-14 19:15 Desperate-kun: kein problem ;)

Irc-modded. We made changes to hitsound volume, hitsounding, patterning, slidershapes, CS settings and NCs :)
Garden
Nomination Assessment Team
1,343 posts
Joined June 2013
Garden
[General]
  1. encode to a .jpg bg can almost save half of ur filesize
  2. consider using a silent sliderslide hitsound at least for the first part of the track, the brrrr sound is annoying TvT
[Simple]
  1. 00:58:994 (3) - add whistle? cuz u whistle to every changing pitch
  2. 00:58:448 (2,3) - ctrl-g for the pitch is rising from 2->3
  3. 01:07:721 (4) - personally suggest extending it to 01:08:812 - cuz there's actually no sound at 01:08:266 - , but a fadeout of the previous sound exists at 01:08:812 - if u listen carefully. By doing this u can also make a better flow from 4 to 5, sth like http://puu.sh/qCUOh/6c50594475.jpg, ofc u can do the slider wutever u like
[Spirit Tree]
  1. 00:20:539 (2) - 00:24:903 (2) - 00:40:175 (2) - 00:46:721 (2) - i would suggest deleting these whistles, they dont follow the pitch changing in the track, sound a bit weird to me.. if u dont agree for some reason, u should also add whistle at 00:29:266 (2) - slider-head etc. for consistency i guess?
  2. 00:32:266 (6) - 01:24:085 (1) - add whistle maybe
Sakurauchi Riko
1,579 posts
Joined January 2015
Topic Starter
Sakurauchi Riko

Garden wrote:

[General]
  1. encode to a .jpg bg can almost save half of ur filesize fixed
  2. consider using a silent sliderslide hitsound at least for the first part of the track, the brrrr sound is annoying TvT i agree with that, gonna add that later on since i have no idea how to do this
[Simple]
  1. 00:58:994 (3) - add whistle? cuz u whistle to every changing pitch changed
  2. 00:58:448 (2,3) - ctrl-g for the pitch is rising from 2->3 good point, changed
  3. 01:07:721 (4) - personally suggest extending it to 01:08:812 - cuz there's actually no sound at 01:08:266 - , but a fadeout of the previous sound exists at 01:08:812 - if u listen carefully. By doing this u can also make a better flow from 4 to 5, sth like http://puu.sh/qCUOh/6c50594475.jpg, ofc u can do the slider wutever u like o, yes.. totally right
[Spirit Tree]
  1. 00:20:539 (2) - 00:24:903 (2) - 00:40:175 (2) - 00:46:721 (2) - i would suggest deleting these whistles, they dont follow the pitch changing in the track, sound a bit weird to me.. if u dont agree for some reason, u should also add whistle at 00:29:266 (2) - slider-head etc. for consistency i guess? HS deleted, they surely sounded a bit off
  2. 00:32:266 (6) - 01:24:085 (1) - add whistle maybe damn that sounds really nice, changed
What a flawless mod, thank you very much Garden!! (:
kanor
924 posts
Joined August 2013
kanor
Hi ! From my modding Q><
[simple]
I dont know it can be named as'simple'......I havent heard such a diff name in other music game...
[Spirit Tree]
00:21:903 (1) - may be ctrl+J can get a better flow?
00:24:085 (1,3) - if you want to blanket,plz make 3 blanket 1 better
00:30:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I like to recommend you to make a pattern like this

stack 4 on the 1

00:41:403 (1,2) - I think this place can be changed into this below

00:49:175 (5) - NC plz
00:49:448 (1) - removed NC
00:58:994 (1) - I dont think its a good place to set a spinner....slider may be more clickable><
01:16:448 (1) - ^
GL! :)
Sakurauchi Riko
1,579 posts
Joined January 2015
Topic Starter
Sakurauchi Riko

kanor wrote:

Hi ! From my modding Q><
[simple]
I dont know it can be named as'simple'......I havent heard such a diff name in other music game... pretty sure it is allowed :D
[Spirit Tree]
00:21:903 (1) - may be ctrl+J can get a better flow? looks nice, changed
00:24:085 (1,3) - if you want to blanket,plz make 3 blanket 1 better huh.. its already as clean as possible o:
00:30:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I like to recommend you to make a pattern like this basically not a bad idea but i really want to double emphasize the sound at 00:31:448 (4) - with the jump and slider, it just fits better to the music imo

stack 4 on the 1

00:41:403 (1,2) - I think this place can be changed into this below changed

00:49:175 (5) - NC plz music changes at 00:49:448 (1) - so it doesnt make sense to me to put NC on 00:49:175 (5) - (i think u want to put nc there cuz of read ability)
00:49:448 (1) - removed NC ^
00:58:994 (1) - I dont think its a good place to set a spinner....slider may be more clickable>< removed spinner, mapped the part to music
01:16:448 (1) - ^ same
GL! :)
Thanks for your mod! (:
sorry for responding that late, i was at vacation :c
YellowManul
429 posts
Joined December 2010
YellowManul
requested from my queue
we did some irc changing of patterns

log
19:06 YellowManul: hey!~ owo
19:06 YellowManul: i just saw your requst in queue
19:06 Phyloukz: Hi!
19:06 YellowManul: and wonder if you can irc rn
19:06 YellowManul: request*
19:07 Phyloukz: sure
19:08 YellowManul: k
19:10 *YellowManul is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1041866 Gareth Coker - The Spirit Tree [Simple]]
19:11 YellowManul: ok
19:11 YellowManul: it's the lowest diff so spacing should be consistent
19:11 YellowManul: but 00:01:721 (2) - you have o,4
19:12 YellowManul: 00:06:084 (2) - and here 0,5 owo
19:12 YellowManul: 00:10:994 (3) - and here is like 0,7
19:12 Phyloukz: well its more than a whole measure space in between those 2 objects so it doesnt really matter i think
19:12 YellowManul: hm ok
19:13 Phyloukz: but i consider that if someones says the same
19:13 YellowManul: 00:52:448 (1,2) -
19:13 YellowManul: here is like 1,1
19:13 YellowManul: owo
19:13 YellowManul: but should be just 1
19:14 Phyloukz: aye, gonna change
19:14 YellowManul: 00:52:448 (1,2) - and if you changed move that too
19:15 YellowManul: i like other par
19:15 YellowManul: part(
19:16 Phyloukz: huh what do you mean? i just adjusted the DS for now oo
19:16 YellowManul: like
19:16 YellowManul: UFG
19:16 YellowManul: im dumb
19:16 YellowManul: sec
19:16 YellowManul: 00:54:085 (2) - if you moved
19:16 YellowManul: 00:54:630 (3) - this should be moved too
19:17 *YellowManul is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1041728 Gareth Coker - The Spirit Tree [Spirit Tree]]
19:17 Phyloukz: yeah i adjusted it
19:17 YellowManul: kk
19:18 YellowManul: 00:41:539 (1,2,3,4) -
19:19 YellowManul: i'd change that pattern to something like 2 triangles http://puu.sh/qJdWy/00c75078ce.jpg
19:19 YellowManul: FUG
19:19 YellowManul: what did i puush
19:19 YellowManul: http://puu.sh/qJdXA/2e265ab4e4.png
19:19 YellowManul: i h8 my mouse
19:19 YellowManul: sec.
19:19 YellowManul: http://puu.sh/qJdXX/78f658b93d.jpg finally
19:20 Phyloukz: good point, ill make the pattern your way
19:20 YellowManul: 00:54:357 (3) - circle here would be nice
19:20 Phyloukz: instead of slider?
19:20 Phyloukz: oo
19:20 YellowManul: between sliders
19:21 YellowManul: http://puu.sh/qJe3e/2a32521c64.jpg
19:21 YellowManul: 01:00:630 (5) -
19:21 YellowManul: circle here
19:21 YellowManul: http://puu.sh/qJe5p/b9e4584e72.jpg
19:22 Phyloukz: hmm.. it'd play better but there isnt an actual sound
19:22 YellowManul: we can overmap it a bit owo=
19:22 YellowManul: owo)
19:23 YellowManul: im wrong about last circle mb
19:23 YellowManul: dont put it
19:23 Phyloukz: i always focus on the sound in the music, so i think i just keep it how it is >.<
19:23 YellowManul: x
19:23 YellowManul: d
19:23 YellowManul: ok!!
19:23 YellowManul: good
19:23 YellowManul: 01:20:812 (1) -
19:23 YellowManul: i'd change this one, looking kinda wierd
19:23 YellowManul: weird*
19:24 Phyloukz: noooooooooooooo ;_;
19:24 Phyloukz: i took so long for this D:
19:24 YellowManul: 01:24:085 (1) -
19:24 YellowManul: why nic here?
19:24 YellowManul: nc*
19:24 Phyloukz: hs changes
19:24 YellowManul: o
19:24 YellowManul: ok
19:24 YellowManul: that's all
19:24 YellowManul: nice map owo))b
19:24 YellowManul: nice song
19:25 Phyloukz: Thanks :3
19:25 Phyloukz: thanks for your mod tho!
19:25 YellowManul: no problem

good luck with the map! :)
Lully
1,270 posts
Joined September 2013
Lully
whoa
what a calm nice song ...

mdq

simple
00:00:085 (1,2) - how about something like this?
00:04:448 (1,2) - same here - creative shapes ovo
in general, some of the sliders are.. just the same, over and over again. - the kiai is perfect. - try to get some various shapes and its perfect <3

spirit baum
00:04:448 (1,2) - maybe a slider here?
00:08:812 (1) - 347 160 looks better ovo
00:19:175 (5) - 100 105? looks a bit cleaner
00:41:403 (5) - stack with 00:41:539 (1) - looks cleaner
00:49:175 (5) - nc should start here - 5 should be part of 00:49:448 (1,2,3) - too. listen close to the music and u'll understand why
00:51:357 (5) - fix blanket ovo
00:55:721 (4) - why u no symmetry D:

good luck with the map~

nice diffs c:
Sakurauchi Riko
1,579 posts
Joined January 2015
Topic Starter
Sakurauchi Riko

CookieKivi wrote:

whoa
what a calm nice song ... barely exists in osu :3

mdq

simple
00:00:085 (1,2) - how about something like this? i kinda like 00:00:085 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - together as a pattern
00:04:448 (1,2) - same here - creative shapes ovo
in general, some of the sliders are.. just the same, over and over again. - the kiai is perfect. - try to get some various shapes and its perfect <3 i try to figure some nice sliders out later on, thanks for mentioning tho :b

spirit baum
00:04:448 (1,2) - maybe a slider here? feels better, changed
00:08:812 (1) - 347 160 looks better ovo 354 149 for the triangle pattern and adjusted slider (3)'s slidershape to be blanket'd with circle (1), so half your way changed :D
00:19:175 (5) - 100 105? looks a bit cleaner i want to keep the DS consistent, furthermore it's fine because it is horizontally symmetric with the previous object which is perfectly blanket'd with the slider before
00:41:403 (5) - stack with 00:41:539 (1) - looks cleaner changed
00:49:175 (5) - nc should start here - 5 should be part of 00:49:448 (1,2,3) - too. listen close to the music and u'll understand why i disagree with that: for me 00:49:175 (5) - sounds not like 00:49:448 (1,2,3) - which have the exact same (well.. 00:49:994 (3) - is different from 00:49:448 (1,2) - but thats whatever) sound. the sound for 00:49:448 (1,2,3) - is way higher than it is for 00:49:175 (5) - . Since 00:49:175 (5) - is a very dark sound compared to 00:49:448 (1,2,3) - i suppose it fits better in 00:48:085 (1,2,3,4) - because that tends more to a dark sound
00:51:357 (5) - fix blanket ovo o, looks pretty accurate to me, adjusted it a tiny bit, i hope i am at the right spot D:
00:55:721 (4) - why u no symmetry D: fixed

good luck with the map~

nice diffs c:
Thanks for your mod <3 Much appreciation :>
BounceBabe
1,626 posts
Joined October 2010
BounceBabe
Request from my NON-Japanese Queue

Simple

I'm a perfectionist. This map screams "symmetry" lol. Anyway, the suggestions from "Appearance" are just minor. You can ignore them of course.

Apperance:
00:09:357 (2) - You tried to make this perfectly symmetric. Here is the code to do so. Change it in the file "Gareth Coker - The Spirit Tree (Phyloukz) [Simple].osu" in your beatmap folder by clicking File > Open osu. in notepad. Scroll down to [HitObjects] and replace the code for this slider with the one below. Then fully reload your difficulty once you saved. This should make it symmetric.
306,134,9357,2,0,B|256:144|256:144|206:134,2,100,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
00:54:630 (3,1) - You might wanna stack the ending of 3 and the beginning of 1 for it to look perfect and less messy. Screen: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5912003 Here is the code if you want:
194,60,54630,2,0,B|258:59|300:106|300:106|342:154|406:154,1,239,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
406,154,56812,6,0,B|342:154|294:190|294:190|298:250|350:299,1,239,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

Possible Ranking Issues:
00:58:448 (2) - This circle is almost out of the playfield area when playing the difficulty. I suggest you move it up by 1-2 grids. This also helps the player not having to move all the way to the edge of the game with the cursor to reach the element.
01:03:357 (3) - The slider almost hits the HP drain bar with the osu!standard skin. Just a sidenote for you again.

Definite Ranking Issues:
01:15:903 (2) - This circle hits the HP drain bar with the osu!standard skin and it has to be lowered in order for it to be rankable. Here is a screen: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5911932

Other than that, the difficulty is perfectly playable and shows no other unrankable issues that need to be addressed. The hitsound pattern are really nice too and they emphasise the song perfectly.

Spirit Tree

Appearance:
00:51:357 (6,1) - These two are nearly the same shape but yet different. It's visually irritating to the eye. I suggest you create either two totally different slider shapes or copy paste one of them to make it look mirrored. But since there's a new melody starting at 00:52:448 - I find you should create a completely new shape. Although, this also looks good: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5912324 ( I copy pasted the slider from 00:51:357 (5) - , flipped it horizontally, pressed Ctrl + G and rotated it by -35°, added a NC and then simply moved it up until the distance snap fits.)

Flow:
00:30:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - The pattern 00:30:630 (1,2,3,4) - plays smoothly since it's curved. Leading the following pattern against the curve creates an harsh redirection of cursor movement. Try recreating a slight curve with these elements 00:31:448 (4,5,6,7) - If you move 00:32:812 (1) - a little lower it will create a perfect flow and transition between the patterns. You won't need to adjust 00:34:448 (2) - as it has the same spacing. Screen: osu.ppy.sh/ss/5912020
01:06:903 (3,4) - The transition from 3 to 4 is again a bit harsh. I see why you placed 4 and 5 there. The following slider surrounds them two. Try moving 01:07:175 (4,5,1) - a bit to the left to create a more smooth gameplay. If you do that, don't forget to adjust the following elements to your changes. (These for example 01:23:812 (4,1,2) - play really smoothly. That goes for both suggestions.)

Combo and Jumps:
00:48:085 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - First of all, the pattern 00:48:085 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - should be visually ascending, not descending because of the piano pitch going higher not lower. Secondly, the NC at 00:49:448 - is wrong and should be at 00:49:175 - instead. Like you did here 01:23:266 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - (this pattern also descends and then ascends to the music). The jump at 00:49:175 (5,1) - doesn't match the piano pitch either. It's a streak of notes gradually becoming more pitched. If at all, to emphasise the melody and to create a matching pattern, remove the jump and whistle from 00:49:448 (1) - and lower it to the point where it is distance snapped with 00:49:175 (5) - . Add a NC and whistle at 00:49:175 (5) - to emphasise the melody properly. Of course you can change it so something similar. Screen: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5912262

Overall

It's a neat short map. Needs a little more work but overall it's solid.
Sakurauchi Riko
1,579 posts
Joined January 2015
Topic Starter
Sakurauchi Riko

BounceBabe wrote:

Request from my NON-Japanese Queue

Simple

I'm a perfectionist. This map screams "symmetry" lol. Anyway, the suggestions from "Appearance" are just minor. You can ignore them of course.

Apperance:
00:09:357 (2) - You tried to make this perfectly symmetric. Here is the code to do so. Change it in the file "Gareth Coker - The Spirit Tree (Phyloukz) [Simple].osu" in your beatmap folder by clicking File > Open osu. in notepad. Scroll down to [HitObjects] and replace the code for this slider with the one below. Then fully reload your difficulty once you saved. This should make it symmetric. did that
306,134,9357,2,0,B|256:144|256:144|206:134,2,100,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
00:54:630 (3,1) - You might wanna stack the ending of 3 and the beginning of 1 for it to look perfect and less messy. Screen: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5912003 Here is the code if you want:
194,60,54630,2,0,B|258:59|300:106|300:106|342:154|406:154,1,239,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
406,154,56812,6,0,B|342:154|294:190|294:190|298:250|350:299,1,239,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
looks already nice now to me (after i had changed smth cuz of your mod)

Possible Ranking Issues:
00:58:448 (2) - This circle is almost out of the playfield area when playing the difficulty. I suggest you move it up by 1-2 grids. This also helps the player not having to move all the way to the edge of the game with the cursor to reach the element. Fixed
01:03:357 (3) - The slider almost hits the HP drain bar with the osu!standard skin. Just a sidenote for you again. looks acceptable for me

Definite Ranking Issues:
01:15:903 (2) - This circle hits the HP drain bar with the osu!standard skin and it has to be lowered in order for it to be rankable. Here is a screen: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5911932 Fixed

Other than that, the difficulty is perfectly playable and shows no other unrankable issues that need to be addressed. The hitsound pattern are really nice too and they emphasise the song perfectly.

Spirit Tree

Appearance:
00:51:357 (6,1) - These two are nearly the same shape but yet different. It's visually irritating to the eye. I suggest you create either two totally different slider shapes or copy paste one of them to make it look mirrored. But since there's a new melody starting at 00:52:448 - I find you should create a completely new shape. Although, this also looks good: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5912324 ( I copy pasted the slider from 00:51:357 (5) - , flipped it horizontally, pressed Ctrl + G and rotated it by -35°, added a NC and then simply moved it up until the distance snap fits.) changed

Flow:
00:30:630 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - The pattern 00:30:630 (1,2,3,4) - plays smoothly since it's curved. Leading the following pattern against the curve creates an harsh redirection of cursor movement. Try recreating a slight curve with these elements 00:31:448 (4,5,6,7) - If you move 00:32:812 (1) - a little lower it will create a perfect flow and transition between the patterns. You won't need to adjust 00:34:448 (2) - as it has the same spacing. Screen: osu.ppy.sh/ss/5912020
01:06:903 (3,4) - The transition from 3 to 4 is again a bit harsh. I see why you placed 4 and 5 there. The following slider surrounds them two. Try moving 01:07:175 (4,5,1) - a bit to the left to create a more smooth gameplay. If you do that, don't forget to adjust the following elements to your changes. (These for example 01:23:812 (4,1,2) - play really smoothly. That goes for both suggestions.) good point, changed

Combo and Jumps:
00:48:085 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - First of all, the pattern 00:48:085 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - should be visually ascending, not descending because of the piano pitch going higher not lower. Secondly, the NC at 00:49:448 - is wrong and should be at 00:49:175 - instead. Like you did here 01:23:266 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - (this pattern also descends and then ascends to the music). The jump at 00:49:175 (5,1) - doesn't match the piano pitch either. It's a streak of notes gradually becoming more pitched. If at all, to emphasise the melody and to create a matching pattern, remove the jump and whistle from 00:49:448 (1) - and lower it to the point where it is distance snapped with 00:49:175 (5) - . Add a NC and whistle at 00:49:175 (5) - to emphasise the melody properly. Of course you can change it so something similar. Screen: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5912262 nice suggestion, changed

Overall

It's a neat short map. Needs a little more work but overall it's solid.
really nice mod, thanks a lot! (:
tatemae
836 posts
Joined November 2014
tatemae
ShitCherius modd here
2016-08-26 16:49 SherryCherry: 00:08:812 (1,2) - i think, you can improve flow
2016-08-26 16:50 SherryCherry: maybe -90°
2016-08-26 16:50 Phyloukz: which diff?
2016-08-26 16:50 SherryCherry: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1041728 Gareth Coker - The Spirit Tree [Spirit Tree]]
2016-08-26 16:50 SherryCherry: and ctrnl+g
2016-08-26 16:50 SherryCherry: it is played better
2016-08-26 16:51 Phyloukz: i think its okay not to have flow, since 00:08:812 (1) - is different from the followin
2016-08-26 16:51 Phyloukz: the sound of 00:08:812 (1) -
2016-08-26 16:51 Phyloukz: is different from 00:09:357 (2,3) - which flow
2016-08-26 16:52 SherryCherry: 00:19:721 (1) - form slider as in 2010
2016-08-26 16:52 SherryCherry: you can make something more interesting?
2016-08-26 16:53 SherryCherry: btw
2016-08-26 16:53 SherryCherry: why cs 4.5?
2016-08-26 16:53 Phyloukz: it looks prettier low cs in easy songs
2016-08-26 16:53 Phyloukz: (where the highest diff is easy)
2016-08-26 16:54 Phyloukz: was a suggestion by desperate-kun
2016-08-26 16:54 Phyloukz: and i can totally agree with that
2016-08-26 16:54 SherryCherry: 00:58:994 (1,2,3,4) - remove nc?
2016-08-26 16:55 Phyloukz: hmm.. maybe put at 00:59:266 (2) - nc
2016-08-26 16:56 Phyloukz: ye i do that
2016-08-26 16:56 SherryCherry: oh
2016-08-26 16:56 SherryCherry: i have better bg
2016-08-26 16:56 SherryCherry: maybe
2016-08-26 16:56 SherryCherry: http://puu.sh/qP2YL/f8814ee72f.jpg
2016-08-26 16:56 SherryCherry: if you like
2016-08-26 16:57 SherryCherry: or http://puu.sh/qP30e/fb63065de9.jpg
2016-08-26 16:57 SherryCherry: http://puu.sh/qP32L/38227ba1ef.jpg
2016-08-26 16:58 Phyloukz: current bg is from the game itself (where also the soundtrack is played) and i kinda like the fact that the spirit tree itself is shown up in that bg
2016-08-26 16:58 Phyloukz: so hmm... i think about those
2016-08-26 16:58 Phyloukz: but maybe not, only first one i like but that doesnt seem appropriate to the song (since its so ddark)
2016-08-26 17:00 Phyloukz: btw.. do you know how i disable the sliderslide sound thing?
2016-08-26 17:01 SherryCherry: nou
2016-08-26 17:01 SherryCherry: i like the map
2016-08-26 17:01 SherryCherry: 00:48:085 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - hard moment
2016-08-26 17:02 SherryCherry: these jumps will be difficult to be read to beginners imo
2016-08-26 17:02 SherryCherry: try other form maybe
2016-08-26 17:02 Phyloukz: thats true but its the build up, so i think it has to be a bit harder
2016-08-26 17:03 Phyloukz: and i like the "rise up" which follows the music kinda well (also a suggestion from a mod that pattern)
2016-08-26 17:03 SherryCherry: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1041866 Gareth Coker - The Spirit Tree [Simple]]
2016-08-26 17:04 Phyloukz: lol
2016-08-26 17:04 Phyloukz: is the first object for you a slider?
2016-08-26 17:05 SherryCherry: 00:01:721 (1) - note
2016-08-26 17:05 SherryCherry: first object is note :D
2016-08-26 17:05 Phyloukz: okay, for some reason the slider before got deleted xD
2016-08-26 17:05 Phyloukz: i fixed it
2016-08-26 17:06 SherryCherry: 00:34:448 (4,1,5,1) - i think, too hard for easy diff
2016-08-26 17:07 SherryCherry: I not absolutely agree with forms of sliders, but it is interesting to play it
2016-08-26 17:08 SherryCherry: Hm
2016-08-26 17:08 SherryCherry: that's all
2016-08-26 17:08 Phyloukz: sliderpaths are clear so there shouldnt be a problem
2016-08-26 17:08 Phyloukz: :D
2016-08-26 17:09 SherryCherry: nice map anyway
Good luck :)
Myxo
osu! Alumni
3,103 posts
Joined December 2012
Myxo
Add NCs on 00:54:630 (3) - 01:12:085 (3) - 01:14:266 (5) - in Spirit Tree and I'll bubble.
Sakurauchi Riko
1,579 posts
Joined January 2015
Topic Starter
Sakurauchi Riko

Desperate-kun wrote:

Add NCs on 00:54:630 (3) - 01:12:085 (3) - 01:14:266 (5) - in Spirit Tree and I'll bubble.
Updated and NC changed! Thank you c:
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